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As traders in cryptocurrency trading what kind of framework of analysis do you prefer best to be taken (as an approach) into consideration when it comes to speculating the future of the market (when to buy and sell), be it on a long term or short term?

Is it with: TECHNICAL ANALYSIS
       or

 FUNDAMENTAL ANALYSIS.

I'll like to throw some light about the above mentioned analysis for the benefit of those that have a floating or no knowledge about both. So as to accommodate a wide range of opinions.

Now, simply put, Technical Analysts believe that "past price movement can dictate future price movement". Technical Analysts don't try to find out the intrinsic value of an asset, rather, they look at historical trading activity and try to identify opportunities based on that.

On the other hand, Fundamental Analysis is a framework that aims to identify the "true value" of an asset. Analysts here study the economic and financial factors to figure out if the market valuation of an asset is fair, etc.
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From the above explanation which could you as a trader possibly go with and why?

Let's discuss.

Let me put it like this, the most fundamental aspect of trading is the technical analysis but the fundamental analysis can be helpful sometimes as trends can affect the market.

Example is if China declears today that they want to legalize bitcoin, people will fomo and buy definitely. That is technical analysis but which make bitcoin price to go in the up direction.

If you remebe the time China finally ban bitcoin, the price decrease from $45000 to almost $30000 in some hours. That is fundamental analysis. As some people heard to news of the ban, they were selling.

But technically analysis is very important because the price of coins like bitcoin are following certain patterns. Example is an indicator like RSI that indicates overbought market which indicates that you should sell, or that indicates an oversold market which indicates you should buy. Another is RSI that indicates a market you should enter but leave in short time like minutes after making few profits as it indicates the market may likely reverse back. Technical analysis is very important. This is the basic aspect new traders must learn about trading.

They could either go with technical or fundamentals but this would really be on situational manner because not all would really be that knowledgeable with TA or even realizing or studying FA's

but it isnt bad to have both and acquiring both knowledge too because it would really be helpful but to consider that not all the times we are seeing news or events in the market thats the time
that people would stick out with technical analysis even though its not precise but its better rather than on making out some trades without any basis.

both of them actually fundamental news which is influence price movement . in technical analisys , at which price level we will short or buy bitcoin to get maximum profits with less risk. fundamental news will drive price goes up and down , and i am believe that is wrong example for fundamental explanation. market sentiment , global news that spreaded in market included in fundamental analisys.

I prefer TA over FA because everything regarding fundamentals are represented there in the chart but that doesn't mean I don't use both of them some times news event does not have any impact on the market imagine trading in the direction of news hopping it will have impact while the market does otherwise and while for TA u will see everything in the chart even when there is change in direction.

Looks like you have got something mixed up here, Fibonacci retracements help to determine the support and resistance levels and not over bought or over sold market conditions.

For overbought or oversold market conditions, you will have to use RSI or Stochastic Oscillator to help identify them,

Remember that you must have always a comparison with your analysis.
I respect your choice but IMO, both are useful to me to forecast the price in the market, both TA and FA are useful to draw a conclusion and speculation but remember they are just a tool to predict the market price, we should know that we don't know how accurate they are upon making such speculation.

IMO, if you've different preferences it is easy to predict the market price.

Always choose the two there's no difference if you don't use the other one since it is both helpful in your trading. Plus there are other strategy to use in trading other than TA and FA but these two are important IMO since it can tell you if the market is in bullish or bearish trend. But just like what you said, taking some of the idea from each of it is not bad and is helpful enough for your trading journey.

Knowing and learning the two will give you better advantage in the trading market.
But aside from that, if you are trading a particular coin, you should also educate yourself about the updates of the coin.
Those TAs will not help you if you have no idea what is happening on the coin itself.
You may be looking at the graphs, but you have no clue of why they do have that kind of trend in the market.
Joining the social media channels of the coin will also give you hints on what the team is planning or where the coin is heading at.

Always follow their progress and updates if you are really that serious on investing on a particular project because this is where you do see the potential price increase if the community find out that
such upgrade or update does really help for the coin to be more useful because this is on where most investors do really matter or depend on which a coin isnt only driven with some hype
but rather had focused on its actual usage or utility. So its up to you on how you do able to handle it out.

To easy your life, you only have to read Bitcoin's fundamentals such as its total supply, current circulating supply, future supply left, halving years, etc. and be fully aware of how many Bitcoin left for mining and in future supply. How will the future supply be decreased after each halving.

When you are comprehensive understand about such fundamentals, you can invest in Bitcoin with your money. Remember, I only advice you to invest with your money, not from bank loan, personal loan, whatever loan type.

You don't have to fall into chronic headache with TA or FA.

By no means will I prefer fundamental analysis of the aspect of trading to technical analysis of the aspect of trading. This is clearer with market speculation when you use technical. The technical indicators when watched closely are very good to speculate the future occurrence of the market but fundamental is not really giving the required gradual movement of price because it is more in news that push up or draw back the price raising unnecessary panic, fear and sentiment that is not sustainable. Technical aspect of the market is gradually fulfilling the market sentiment.

Afaik the one you'd be using most of the time would be Technical Analysis, while Fundamental Analysis would be used on a case-by-case basis. After all, fundamental analysis requires you to identify which factor or variable would inevitably make a big impact on the market, so it isn't something you'd always use but rather only when it's applicable. Still, it isn't wrong or bad to use both of them imo, I myself have mostly used FA's when I first started then started bringing TA's to compare with what I have.

TA is the thing that you use daily to make sure that you are aware what the market is thinking, that way you are learning what others are thinking and that gives you a proper answer for the future and what you could do. FA is the thing that you use when you want to go in depth and check if you should make that dive it is not for understanding the market, it is for understanding if it is the right time and if you should get in right away.

Basically one tells you what is going on, and one tells you when it's time. With TA, you could simply just use it and see what people think and invest accordingly but you will be failing to figure out the perfect timing, with FA you will never understand what the macro economy and what market is doing.

Maybe what you are saying is that for the long term an investor is not a trader. I strongly disagree if we only look at the total supply in circulation. Today it cannot be your reference for profit or traders. Maybe for BTC it's pretty good but what about the other coins? it's not the best choice. Technical analysis and fundamental analysis is a trader's need if they do not master it, they will not last long.

Most of the time you would really be using technical analysis and just like on what others been saying that not all the times there would be some news or events that do happen in the market which you would really make out some application into your analysis basing on fundamentals and not all the time we are really seeing various informations which you could make use which means that you wont really be having any direction but rather make use of technical indicators even though its not really that assured or giving out the result you are hoping for but this is better rather than on making
some random guesses on where the price could possibly actually go.

if we only look on total supply or circulating supply only, there are alot project have it less than bitcoin but in fact coin price even below bitcoin or even less than a dollar. beside supply there are complicated factors that will support projects, and most of investors will look the fundamental behind it. combination between technical and fundamental analisys was best practice to predict the future of any projects.

I used TA for trading while FA for holding a specific coin/token. They both good, you just have to use it depends on your strategies and risk tolerance. You can actually combine this two and have a good investment result.

Though FA is not that a big deal in cryptomarket simply because of the hype which can also invalidate TA. The volatility are more high here, if you are going to trade make sure you use all the necessary indicators to have a more effective trading straregy.

If you are in trading,
Technical analysis is certainly important - it is a way of predicting what might happens next after looking at the market chart, price movements, and trade volume for a particular project. In general, it is determining the possible direction of the project.

But if you are talking about Holding,
 Fundamental Analysis is highly recommended for this refers to the security of the project if we can assure that years from the value will grow.

For me, I prefer fundamental analysis, because I simply do not like the intricacies of technical analysis, especially that it makes mistakes often due to the constantly changing nature of the market and the difficulty of repeating history accurately. Yes, it succeeds often, but it is difficult to predict the market movement 100% based on the study of movement The previous one because many circumstances occur and force the market movement to change, which leads to a change in the price movement based on the new data, so I think it is better to rely on fundamental analysis in trading.

I believe that if you will both Technical Analysis (TA) and Fundamental Analysis (FA) will be a good combination.
But for me, Technical Analysis (TA) is the main key here if you are especially active in trading like you are a day trader. Because there are times when Fundamental Analysis is bullish but in your Technical Analysis is bearish, I rather support my Technical Analysis if so.

What happens is that fundamental analysis can tell you that an asset is ready for an upward movement but it is not going to tell you exactly when that is going to happen, and we know that your timing is critical when it comes to making money in the markets, so if your technical analysis is telling you the market is not ready to go up then you need to listen to it, but you should always keep your eyes open so you are ready to get in the market as soon as both your FA and TA agree and give you a buying signal.

Fundamental analysis includes news. What you are saying of following the coin updates can be covered on fundamental analysis already. If you don't follow the coin updates but your only using technical analysis, I think you will still get curious on why the price is dropping and after that you will check the news of the coin but it can be too late for you already.

T.A's are more than looking at the chart right? But it also involved using indicators and other complicated tools, so it's hard for someone that is only starting in trading but F.A's can be easy because your only basing your decisions or prediction on the news and events that are currently happening.

In the end both of them needs to be studied. Trading is complex process and its literal byproduct of multiple factors happening around the globe. For example, bitcoin trading might seem easy to predict. You know Like in long terms we know that it’s gonna go up only however then comes fundamentals where we come across thoughts like government bans, IMF and G20 taking down the crypto and what not leading to bitcoin devaluation. Now see here comes the point where we need to weigh TA higher than FA or vice versa. In my opinion both of them needs to be studied properly.

I'm an FA guy but I'll you that it's more profitable to get into TA. I'm that type of guy that loves to look at the news most of the time and I've seen that there was usual news that doesn't really affect the market in instant.
So that's why, if you're into analysis, you better learn and master the TA. That's for someone who relies on the market and his profits through trading.

from technical analisys atleast 50%+1 we will know how market will moved, alot reversal or continuation signal that provided in technical analisys. alot traders use this technique in their open position and sometime prefer deny news analisys which is usually could anticipated in TA. combination both of them will give us good result in short term or long term investment.

FA is indeed what matters most into crypto because no matter how bullish the chart is but there's a bearish news, Dump is inevitable in that particular scenario and we all knew that. TA is good when there's no news that gonna impact the price so its important to check first for FA then proceed to TA.

In my little trading experience, I learnt that Both Technical Analysis (TA) and Fundamental Analysis (FA) should go hand-in-hand. It is known that majority of traders focus only on TA (Line chart, Bar chart, candlesticks chart, and various indicators) to forecast market price movement. While this approach to trading might not be wrong, it might be risky.

As traders, we all know that the things responsible for movement in market prices and creation of Demand (support) and Supply (resistance) levels—appearance of candlesticks (proportion of candlesticks bodies to their shadows)—situation of Order blocks (OB) and Point of interest (POI)—nature of the lines drawn on the RSI, to mention but few, are all due to the behind-the-scene war that is constantly happening between buyers and sellers in the Economic space (this war is also affected by social and political forces).

This meaning that FA are the basis of price movement in the market, and to neglect it is to open oneself to a lot of risks. To further support this motion, I remember when I was learning to use Trendline, I learnt that one of the things that can be against you in trading is News. News from Economic, Social and Political world all have drastic effect on the situation of things in the market. So while we are learning to be experts in TA, we shouldn't be ignorant of FA because it might save us from a lot of unpleasantness/disappointment in our trading endeavors.

OP, for plebs like us, I am a strong believer of the HODL based on the Fundamentals of a coin, and the best in my opinion, would be Bitcoin. Because the problem with Technical Analysis is, there are people in the market who are hungrier, more talented, and more skillfull than us. Technical Analysis also doesn't work 100% of the time because more and more talented traders already know about it and they can counter-trade your trade.

A better trader is one who can combine both during analysis. But for long term trades the best analysis to rely more on is fundamental analysis. For day traders having a confluence between fundamental and technical analysis can decide which trading pattern to adopt depending on the structure of the market and the time frame you choose. I think both FA and TA goes hand in hand

Indeed, traders must have to use them if we pursue to reach our goal.
But based on my experience, it was been noticed that TA is somewhat very important. Well, having them both gives us the advantage but never we could just think that it all be fine. What just these things help is to have good market judgments but apart aside that, using the other trading tools will somehow give a boost chance.

To be a good trader you need every possible help you can get. So knowing both is good and maybe a must. When I was trading for living I used every tool possible and still was hard to be profitable.

If you are up only for speculation then just go with the fundatemental analysis but if you wanted to know what the possible market can show and with backup proof hen I think you should go in technical analysis. I think more people rely on technical analysis since it is more accurate rather than the fundamental analysis.

I also think that bigger players can manipulate the market because they already seeing the market direction through the charts and they can hodl longer from selling or buying until the small traders get exhausted in the market getting RSI hodl overbought a longtime without reversal. Banks are capable of doing the manipulation as they have plenty money to lock around the market.

When it comes to trading, news do play out often, especially when dealing with FX trading but for cryptos, it becomes a slightly different story as the biase isn't entertained by most persons. A lot of traders might feel indifferent and the trend would just continue. That's yo say, fundamental analysis comes with an importance that could not be over emphasised. It is at this point that most trends get to change.

When it comes to technical analysis, though important and could easily be used to check the dominant group in the market and determine the directik of the market especially points of breakout and trend continuation but, it could be really tricky too. For me, I find fundamental very important as, it could break change trend directions.

There's no such thing about being accurate whether on fundamental or technicals since we know that it could neither bite or not in terms of results whether it would go along or would totally go oppose on that thing.
Its up to personal choice whether you do make use either one of them but it would be good if you do know both things since you could really make out some adjustments
depending on the situation or condition that you are facing on.Doesnt matter if FA or TA as long it do works for you then that what matter the most.

Fundamental news moves the price of cryptocurrencies while Technical Analysis reveals the likely direction of the price thus the combination of both TA and FA is very crucial and important for a trader, I always pay attention to any crypto related news after utilizing TA to place a trade having taken a cognisance of the fact that any latest negative news will have an instant impact on my current trade, infact the rate at which the price dump or pump in an event of any new is usually very massive that is why traders are encouraged to use Stop Loss in trading to minimize or cut risk.

Whales could manipulate the market but to a degree, they can't manipulate everything and not that easily for most as well. You have to remember the crypto market reached to a level where it is a whole market and just one person can't really change it. Sure if you find a small cap coin and put 10 million on it to pump/dump then you could do that, but for most coins at the top level that is no longer a possibility.

This means that it would require billions and billions to change the price. Last time one person did it, it was 1.5 billion from Elon Musk that changed the price and the news of it impacted more than the money itself. So, I doubt whales would be able to do anything for the top 20.

I think TA are for speculation while FA works for long term holding.
You can actually use both for the good benefit, because these two can also work with each other and some investors really prefer to use both. Personally I use TA more since I do trades and I see it as effective, better to think for a strategy that can work for your own timeline, either for trades or for long term holding. TA and FA can be your best guide to make profit, understand this two and their functions on this market.

How if using both Fundamental and technical analysis?
Commonly, TA is technically to analyze related tot eh charting and also indicators and other on the graphics. However, commonly, some fundamental things such as big news will also give a certain influence.
We can both use FA and TA to see every chance of earning profits. Although this may be more complex, at least, we can broaden our analysis and then focus on our TA again if there is no FA urgently needed. 
COmmonly, if someone only focuses on FA, it is more to the long-term holder, and TA analysis will be used by the daily trader. But, it doesn't mean that they will only use one analysis, they will also commonly still cosnider others, still condier both TA and also FA

The bigger players, knowing that plebs are looking at technical indicators in the charts, might be manipulating the market to "draw" a buy signal if they are selling, and a sell signal if they are buying. 8)

Bigger players also counter-trade a pleb's trade through stop-loss hunting, knowing that plebs now use stop-losses. It's better to HODL Bitcoin, maybe it's less short term profit, but it's less risk.

FA for long term and TA for short term, can we get better answer than this? :P

To speculate you can use anything, just be good at it and convince others that you are better at analysing but in reality short term speculations are ineffective because the market can react to any news either positive or negative which will completely break the trend and set for new ones.

One of the massive benefits of Technical Analysis is that, once you have enough knowledge about it, it is extremely possible to analyse an asset’s chart and determine its direction in the span of minutes. Keeping in mind that new crypto services make it possible to automate Tech Analysis, we end up with a process that is even more better and faster.

The most recent and leading advantage is that Technical Analysis helps traders with clearly defining, valuable information such as price targets, support levels, resistance levels.

MEANWHILE, The benefit of Fundamental Analysis is that it provides an impression of how valuable a cryptocurrency is without any speculation. Once a bubble pops it can blow projects out of the water, but if the chosen project is backed by real value, it will survive temporary market volatility and come back stronger than ever.

I'm more of a TA than FA person. I recognize that the two work together for the same purpose of achieving gain, and that's the manner I use them. No TA person relies on TA alone but an FA person can rely solely on news and still be profitable. The only time a TA person doesn't reply on FA is if they're going in on long term. They tend to look at trend from higher time-frames of Weekly & monthly, discover it and ride on it without minding momentary news. If charts are plotted well, price is expected to follow that path either slowly or quickly. That journey of when price will finally hit target from the eye of TA depends on news. This is why support and resistant lines are very important in charts.

Absolutely TA for short and mid term prediction because FA is for long term and there cannot predict the price ranges, we can simply assume how much it will reach but with technical analysis it is more possible to predict and speculate for all time ranges but with less accuracy because technical analysis predict the future based on past but future trends might be changed by lot of external factors.

This is also my view on FA and TA, they both good but serve its different purpose depends on your strategy and plan. If a trader looks for a day to day basis, TA can be a good option but if a trader wants to trade for long, you can use TA to know when to enter and sell, and use FA to know which coin to buy. It can be good to use both sometimes, you just need to blend it perfectly.

Actually so far, I am not really good at TA, just little bit to understand and use them by trying. But it seems like not very work for me because sometimes, my analysis is very bad honestly  ;D
That is why I prefer to use more fundamental analysis, moreover I am not a day trader, so I prefer to focus on the projects that have good and strong fundamentals to set certai target price for short term or long term holding.

But it doesn mean that FA is better than TA, I only said that FA is more suitable for me

I actually like both analysis since it has both advantage and disadvantages but it matters to the individual since we are all unique even on trading. Technical Analysis is recommended for day traders and to those who like whing trades like you and me, Fundamentals is the perfect fit for it. There's no one can tell if it's FA or TA, as I've said it could be subjective on both terms and to individuals.

Considering that not all the times the market would generate out some news or events which you could make use or treat as FA which means that you would really be ending up on using
TA's in the end of the day.It isnt really bad to have both ways for you to identify possible trends or paths on where prices could go via these indicators or analysis.
It doesnt matter which one you would use as long you could make profits then that what surely counts.

both TA or FA could use as long term or short term,in my opinion both have strong corellation for price movement. market moment, market sentiment will be trigger price action and it could describe on chart. short or long could  be effectiive in we could analize the sign that given by technical analisys. neagtive or positive news only be trigger for TA.

Everyone wants to make a lot of money when participating in the market so to become a good trader we should not ignore 1 in 2, learn and use both methods on TA and FA.
The market operates outside of supply and demand, cryptocurrencies are still manipulated by big forces, so the use of TA and FA is for reference only, there is no guarantee of 100% accuracy.
Personally, I'm a long-term holder, so I usually use FA more than TA. It depends on the needs of each user.

Actually both because they're the most important to see if the project is really good or not such as the data of the project and the structure of the growth rate on the market.

For me before making TA i used to make FA first to get more information especially if my investment or trades is for long. Because without such strategies for sure it's like your just guessing the future of the project like literally, i mean no you don't have any information how good the project is.

Indeed, not everyone understands technical analysis, and it happened to me too when I first started trading. But because I was interested
in becoming a successful trader and able to make big profits, it finally made me interested in studying technical analysis. It is not easy to learn
technical analysis, there are some things that are difficult for us to understand if we are not assisted by a mentor. That's why I spent money on
trading courses, so that I could be guided by a mentor to better understand how to trade properly, including in the trading course I learned how
to do the correct technical analysis.

Now I feel I can do technical analysis well, it really helps me in predicting price movements in the market. So I suggest you also take a trading
course, so you will understand better how to do technical analysis properly. Because in my opinion we can't just rely on fundamental analysis
if we want to achieve maximum results in the crypto world. I think the combination of technical analysis and fundamental analysis will make us
more accurate in predicting the market. So it's better to understand both of them than just one of them.

The thing is news don't come at the same day, news or events most of the time for fundamental stuffs has been shared in the past. I think the saying "buy the rumor, sell the news" is still a thing here when using FA and I definitely tend to agree in that case. TAs are definitely great but if you're a swing trader you still need FA with you and I've been used to that stuff for months now.

Fundamental analysis is indeed more difficult to do. and unfortunately I tried several times for technical analysis on new coins it was not effective, of course we have to know fundamentally about the project. this is different from high-end coins, where only with technical analysis may we be able to make money, because the trading volume is high, so it is more difficult to manipulate. therefore with technical analysis we must be able to place its use, so as not to get trapped

If in crypto, both of them.

I think TA and fundamentals are interrelated, in a stable Bitcoin market. If the Bitcoin market is volatile and tends to experience drastic price drops, both are useless (especially if Bitcoin is in bearish mode), if BTC is in a bearish condition, our playing space in altcoins will be destroyed if we analyze incorrectly, because sometimes both types of analysis (TA and Fundamental) useless at all.

This is the correct answer, if we are thinking on investing in a coin for the long term and we plan to hold our coins then fundamental analysis is the correct tool for  the job, however if what we want is to become a trader and we are interested in making short term profits then without a doubt technical analysis is the superior choice out of the two, and the reason for this is simple, an asset will inevitable more towards the direction of its fundamentals given enough time but this is not true on the short term where many other factors can take precedence and in order to take them into account technical analysis is needed.

TA and FA are valuable to reach a determination and theory however recall that they are only an instrument to anticipate the market value, we ought to realize that we don't have the foggiest idea how precise they are after making such hypothesis. The specialized pointers when observed intently are awesome to conjecture the future event of the market yet fundament.

Sometimes all you need is to TA when you're active daily in the market. But for someone who just checks the market and you're a long guy.

FA is all you need to aside from all of those basic information you've known across the market because you know that it's going to what the market will rely on when the other analysis doesn't work.

For daily trading the most important is TA (technical analysis) especially for quick profits, coz all you need to do is to see the structures on the lower time frame just to get more information or should say  what's the trend on the graph to get the opportunity to make quick profits.
And for FA(fundamental analysis) this is most important unless if you're planning to make long term coz you need to accumulate more data about the project to see if they're qualified as a good investment coz mostly is for hypes only in the market so this one is necessary to apply when choosing a projects to investment.

You are correct, however I will also say that in the short time frames you do not really have the time to use fundamental analysis, some time periods are so short that by the time you read a news and then you try to react to it many other traders have already done so and you enter your trade too late, when that happens it makes more sense to just watch the price and keep monitoring it for any extraordinary movement, and only once you open your trade then you could take the time to look about the reason that move happened at all.

In speaking with fundamentals then this is something really needs some fast action or immediate response if you do tend not to make yourself get too late whether you should buy or sell since this market is highly reactive to news and events then it's understandable that you shouldn't really make yourself too late or else you would really be missing out on taking a profit or chance to buy cheap.

So it's a personal preference whether making use of FA and TA because this is something talks about your knowledge and skills towards trading on the market.

Both TA and FA are very important to trade if you need to grow in profit with the market. FA for the coin that you are buying is usually the news surrounding it like sells, listing of it, the team members and the general information about the project. These are quite important to the strength of where the coin will reach in the future. So whether daily trader or other types of trading, it is important to look at the two.

Technical and Fundamental analysis exist because they have a huge function when it comes to trading. Some just use TA, well, they are still profiting. That is why it is still an option for us traders which one to use but I suggest to consider them both upon trading as this would help you to have better results. But we have to remember that trading is not just all about TA and FA, in order to earn profit from trading, it should also be accompanied by effective strategies and hard work. In this way, your chances are pretty high.

I personally only use TA to analyze the market. I did this because it would take a long time to use the FA to make decisions, especially since I was trading short term, so I had to make decisions quickly. actually it's all just a matter of convenience for us to use it, of course if for the long term the FA will be more careful to analyze, and can also use TA to analyze it, but for the FA I personally think it's more difficult to find the fundamentals of a project

I would suggest both as well. They both have some usecases in each situation and to be there and promoting it means a lot and should be promoted for sure. It is a clear indicator that we should be able to get people to use both of them if you look at the results from both of them.

Just because you are using one doesn't make the other one useless, there is nothing that blocks you from using both of them and that is what we will get in the long run as well. We are going to end up with something profitable if we use both, and if we use only one or even not use any of them then we are going to miss a big portion of the big picture and end up losing money in the long run.

We should really know on how to make use of TA considering that not all the times this market would be having always that news or events around which you could really make use of your FA.

Not all the times you would really be seeing this which means you would be ending up on analyzing technicals aside from events and its a must thing to be learnt.

You would be finding yourself to be on a hard situation if you arent really that mindful about learning this key area.

For short-term price speculation you do not need a fundamental analysis, the news about the coin is enough to understand its mood and basically understand which way the market is

FA analysis is one of the simplest tool in trading. It doesn't require any indicators to detect red or green candles, it's all about the trends. People depends on Elon Musk and other top influencers in the market to carry out their daily trading. For newbies who are just coming into the space, I recommend FA analysis for them, as for a start. While TA is commonly used by experience experts in the space for trade. Some traders don't always follow trends, but price actions and they keep making profits while those that follows trends don't always come out of a trade smiling. TA analysis is the best but it requires time and patience before you can fully understand the market, although the market can also go against your target in any point in time.

I think that sometimes it is still worth drawing conclusions given the situation on the market. Otherwise, getting results is not easy.

This is basically my rationale as well, without a doubt fundamental analysis is critical if you are an investor or using a very long time frame to trade the markets, but when you are a short term trader or a swing trader then fundamental analysis is not going to be as important and instead you will have to rely almost exclusively on technical analysis, as out of the two it is the one that allows you to analyze the markets the fastest, and that is critical for a short term trader.

When it comes to the crypto market, FA is not even a choice, atleast talking about the traditional fundamental analysis, the main discussion points are P/E multiples or EV/EBITDA multiples but the crypto market doesn't works on these principles at all, we barely go ahead and calculate earnings of any crypto company before we buy their cryptos, FA in crypto is more about which coin has the best utility and solves a problem in the long run, other than that all these coins are just shitcoins deriving their value from something or the other. So in Cryptos only best option which you have for market speculation is TA. 

Getting results was never been easy since from the start because there would be lots of factors for you to reconsider first before you would really make any decisions whether you would buy or sell
depending or basing on the market condition plus on knowing its technical or fundamental aspect.Its up to someone or depending on how things been going.
This market is unpredictable on where 100% precision cant really be possible because u turn of events could happen which results will really be on a random manner.

You will need to draw a conclusion no matter what, because if you don't, you can get stuck with what you are doing. Getting results is not easy only if you make the situation hard, so my advice is one must lower his standards and accept things the way they are, as that is the only way to get contented with the results.

There are lots of factors around but who says that you will consider them all? Why not pick only the one's that are more important. You need to decide as soon as possible because the time is ticking and the prices will soon going to move if you will not hurry. If you got caught out, you will find it hard to make a decision again.

Lots of trial and error before you could really acquire in terms of skills and knowledge and its true that we wont really be staying up permanently on a strategy that doesnt really work where it is normal that

we would really be finding another one and that would be a never ending kind of searching ways because we do plan to sustain or survive on this market which do really connects into this scenario.

Stick on something that would really be working for you and if time comes for it to be ineffective then try to look for another one.

I would agree, that I"m leaning towards TA of course, when making speculative guess as to what will most likely happen in the future and make your trade based on it. It's not 100% we all know that, but at least the trends might help you identify opportunities. If it doesn't work on you, then find another indicators. So it's a learning process as you continue to educate yourself. But yeah, it is TA that I most rely on when making my trading/investing position.

And why I use them both is because investing a coin/s that we know has utility and function in the market increase assurance that in the long run, it will move up. And it was also important to know which projects have the potential, not shitcoins. While the use of FA and TA will give us the desired results that we've wanted, not just because we made speculation as we also need profit assurance.
However, this be depending on where you become comfortable, some just choose TA alone but haven't looked at the big difference between having the two when it comes to market analysis.

That is the thing with TA, learning how to use TA to have an edge over other traders is something that is an iterative process and it takes time to achieve, also even if you can find a set of combination of indicators that can give you profits that does not mean that you are going to be able to use them effectively, so you also need to think of your own personality and adjust your strategy to one that fits you and that you can use even when the market is in a terrible shape.

I agree with you on potentials side but now my mind just doesn't agree with the concept of potential as well, just a few weeks back everyone was so positive on Luna and expected that it will definitely break all the highs and just one small error and you see it falling out of the ecosystem Altogether and all your savings getting duped. TA is somehow better because it comes with a protection of Stop loss which if you use you can save yourself from such a catastrophe.

I don’t think I have seen a trader that would say that they are not making use of fundamental analysis instead of technical analysis, majority of them, if not all, in the market has to rely on technical analysis when they are trading.

So it is the norms, although it’s also good that we traders look into making use of fundamental analysis to look into a coin very well and understand it, because it’s not every time that technical analysis works. Combing technical analysis along with fundamental analysis might be having more percentage of winning chances but for that you must need lots of time to have such a mixture of analysis.

I agree with you, I think that a person who manages to combine these two analyzes, plus personal analysis and who is close to reality, would be winning, I always try to do that, but sometimes I don't have a complete understanding of the market, and if I keep insisting because I would lose a lot, because I don't have full understanding, so in these cases what I do is not operate, what I dedicate myself is to see the market and see if it gives me an opportunity to enter according to my criteria and if my vision of the market is the correct one, because otherwise, it is like entering a casino to gamble, and that is not recommended in trading.

What happens is that even if FA and TA are both tools that can help us to better understand the markets at the same time their nature is completely different, FA is great when you are thinking long term and you want to enter a position early and you can hold your coins no matter what, however TA is about timing your entry and exit points in a very precise manner so you remain invested in a coin for as little time as possible while maximizing your gains, which makes it more suited for short term trading.

We know that there are certain some news do really pops out like mushrooms which is really that hard to predict or sustain a particular strategy or analysis of yours where it could really stir up everything thats why you do really need to consider on adding up some technical analysis or immediate back up plans whenever unexpected things do really happen along the way.
Doesnt matter on which one you would choose yet you could make use of the two depending on your action towards this unpredictable market.
Act accordingly on whatever you do see that it would really be that effective, you wouldnt know unless you do try.

I think it was not hard to execute especially if we want to succeed. Because for me, TA and FA had something to do with our trades, I'd see them as valuable tools that could help us to make a better trade. Maybe we couldn't make a perfect analysis but at least we increase our chances, unlike if we use nothing. And I certainly recommend using these two, otherwise, you are right, we called it gambling, not trading.

Apparently, we can't appreciate things if we tend not to use them in actual scenarios.

Depends on what you studying really. There is entirely different perspective to bitcoin TA and altcoin TA. I mean it’s very obvious bitcoin gives you whole new trading patterns all the time while altcoin will always follow bitcoin path. For alts its fact and fundamentals that they depend on bitcoin a lot. So many times it’s possible to forecast altcoins next move if you have understood bitcoin analysis.

You're right, I really couldn't give any advice or anything that has to do with the BTC market right now, there are many fundamentals, and the truth is that I prefer to think as if I were a whale, and a whale would really panic when trading , maybe that is why the BTC market has dropped so much in price, because somehow the investors have had a lot of panic and have put their money in gold or other investments that they see as safer, or maybe they have passed it to a stablecoin, it is not known..There are many scenarios to happen, suddenly we are speculating on this right now and tomorrow we could see that BTC recovers and reaches $100k, everything is possible.

Aside from that, TA and FA are important in seeing all angles when you are trading the coin. This will broaden your knowledge on what is happening with the coin's market and so you will have more better approach when it comes to trading. Don't limit yourself to one tool only. As much as possible, get information as much as you can. The more you know about the coin, the better your chance of making good in the trading area. This is why, it is also helpful if you will subscribe to the coin's social media channels. Sometimes they will give you the hint where the project is heading to.

I agree that both TA and FA are quite important. We are talking about something that would be beneficial for you if you know what you are doing and backing it up with data. Doesn't mean that it will always be %100 right, there are times when you or the data could be wrong, or unexpected news could crash all of the expected stuff, but that doesn't mean you should be trading willy nilly without any shred of data backing your position. You should trade with both TA and FA together, but also should be careful about anything that could go wrong, if you are prepared for it, then you will be doing much better.

I think identifying the true value of an asset in Cryptos is pretty difficult not only because generally in stock markets intrinsic value or true value of any asset in stock market is derived using the cash flows which is not the case with crypto markets because no cash flows are really involved here. So I feel best is to try with technical analysis only. I think fundamental analysis is entirely different in Cryptos you study the whitepaper and take knowledge about the project and see how viable it is. But in this you can be successful only if you are into technology.

Both are important if you do know on how to handle up yourself on market conditions because not all the times where the market does have
news or fundamentals which you could make use of but its up to you on where you do make out some focus whether on TA or FA but in overall
you could really see the significance on both things basing on condition.If there's some news then TA might not be relevant because it could
easily fucked up any analysis out there.

^ Definitely right, it should be we choose them both.
TA and FA are the most important in trading, they must partner in crime when you are in trading. Your main tool to speculate is TA and it should be supported by the FA. Because as of now, the most trend will follow every fundamental had, it will depend on the news which has an impact on the BTC price. But always remember that these are all tools in trading only, there is no assurance or guarantee that they will forecast an accurate result upon predicting the market trend.

But do not be deceived by this, altcoins are more volatile than bitcoin, there are some things to consider like the leverage used, the liquidation price and knowing that altcoin can fail. When you are trading, the technical analysis you will use for altcoins is different because when the fund you are trading with is not yet liquidated for bitcoin, it might have liquidated for altcoin. The coin used in trading can also bring about loss.

If I use altcoins for trading, I also check Bitcoin's trend. Perhaps, TA and FA are applicable to all coins in the market, however, we mostly put consideration relying upon Bitcoin as we know that altcoins are usually following its trend.  Yeah, we can have these analyses and chart reading but what is very important in a trade is a choice of coins. Why were people lost in trading? That was because this not just works based on TA and FA, but also on how we manage them.

Choosing them both or using them both would be the key because we know that trading is a game or venture which do involves lots of trial and error which simply means that you would be needing to test out different combinations and applications on tools or indicators which might really be that helpful on making out market related kind of decisions which is something that needs to make some analysis out from it.
Its true that market is really highly reactive to news and events and this is where fundamentals do set in but we know that not all the times we are really seeing some news thats why it is sensible that you
would be switching up from technical analysis which is something that needs to understand and learnt.

FA may be used mostly by holder. But for me, combining both FA and TA will help much in order to decrease the risks. Although I am not good enough in TA, at elast it is added by FA to be considered. Moroever I am not a daily trader, so this may not really need to use much TA.

I also think so. Bitcoin may be volatile and altcoins will follow the market trend of Bitcoin. But this is the general thing. WHat happen in the market for altcoins itself is that each altcoin has its own volatility and mostly they are highly volatile. It may change very drastically only in few time frame. that is why for daily trades, TA is very important, moreover supported by FA because sometimes, sudden news is influencing.

TA and FA are not the same way but they are to achieve same purpose. Basic thing about TA is that it is chart and can be followed accurately for future, history do repeat itself and trading pattern also happen often times. As to the FA, they are temporal like information or news but very capable to cause high volatility that will bring lose. However it is better having the both knowledge because it prepares us more for what is to come.

Both traders and holders make use of FA and TA, it depends. An experienced person will first consider to use TA before he buys bitcoin to hold at all, a day trader can decide to open position in direction a news favour after the TA indicates such direction as well.

Exactly the later I am talking about above, but we should be careful of FA, we should still make use of TA in addition to FA if we are day traders because FA can fail sometimes, like the last time Microstrategy bought bitcoin, we expected the price of bitcoin to increase but it decreased.

Trying to have them both never cause us losses instead, this even helps to have a better market view and future analysis. It was not necessarily we need them as it depended on our comfort, however, I strongly encourage traders to have them, and applying this could give us benefits in return. As per to see, the more you go through good market analysis, the more chance you got good predictions. Many had missed this thing and that was because our TA and FA haven't worked effectively. 

Do not forget that most often this choice depends on the situation on the market. Often this really requires a more careful approach, because the situation is rather ambiguous.

Its indeed situational and just like on the condition or situation where there are big news or events in the market which it could really be in result on not following those indicators in terms of movement
which neither it would really be making out some reaction or not specially on Fuds or even on positive news that could happen along the way.Some might really be putting much attention to it
thats why they do ignore technicals on the time but there are people whom do really stick with that.

Just test both and you would find out which one will really be effective.It all matters on how you do use and make decision through it.

FA and TA may not show the same thing at all times, sometimes they show the opposite directions and that is fine, you do not have to look at the same direction at all times, you can pick either one of them or the other. However, there are times when they both show the same direction and that is when you know that you should be investing and it is definitely profitable to do so.

The only thing that we are missing right now would be to make sure that we end up with one thing that is 100% certain, which is both of them showing it is going down, that almost always shows that it will drop, meaning shorting when that happens would probably be a good idea.

The two go hand in hand so i use both. Most times the two could be conflicting which is a good time to avoid trading but once both moves in harmony then comes massive profit. I think using both is best because none of the two is actually better than the other both has their pros and cons so take full advantage of the trend both goes

Yeah, that's better.

If you know how to FA and TA, you'll have references if you're always checking the market. And the outcome of your own analyses with these strategies will give you an idea of what could happen next.

But you will still be the one to decide your own trading fate and decisions because not all the time, they're correct. Sometimes, the market, doesn't go along with any of the both.

Basically if you had one chance to be whoever you want, would you like to say "I want to be an NBA player" or would you say "I want to be the best NBA player ever"? You would say best, but some people would forget to add that part in. Sure FA and TA will not guarantee you any profit at all, but at least it would be better to trade when you know both of them, compared to not knowing either and still ending up trading, but this time being blind while doing it.

So, it is clear to me that everyone should be investing some time into learning more about charts, indicators, TA in general, FA, spend hours on researches, checking the markets, reading the charts, maybe won't give you profit, but gives you a higher chance to profit.

By mastering TA and FA, at least we will have a plan if the price does not match the analysis that has been made, because of course we understand risk and reward, and we certainly already have limits to dare to cut losses to anticipate bigger losses. at least by having an analysis we will have a clear framework for making transactions on the market

Saying one is superior to the other is not the way to go about it. They both have advantages and disadvantages, and they complement each other well.

However, I would argue that it is dependent on your strategy, goal, and time frame. For example, I frequently day trade and trade breakouts, so I'm looking for quick, consistent profit in the short term. Fundamentals aren't as important to me as technical analysis, but I wouldn't say technicals are "better."

I do think that traders needs Technical Analysis knowledge and can get more benefits from it if mastered.  While investors would get more benefits from Fundamental Analysis.  I come from that decision because :

From the definition of trader:

Take note of the short-term profit.  

Now let us see this infographic from one of the articles[1] that discuss the difference between TA and FA

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[1] https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/fundamental-analysis-vs-technical-analysis/

It's best to use both TA and FA in my opinion. More preferably, we can use FA for the long term and TA for the short term.
TA gives us a good entry and exit point which we can use to gain more profits. FA gives us a firm belief that the particular coin will definitely do well over a period of time.
I mostly use TA because I already have my coins picked and so I keep trading them then and there to accumulate little profits.
I also have some coins which I am holding for a long term and will probably won't withdraw until necessary.

Do not think that only the choice of analysis will allow the trader to make a profit. Trading is a rather complex process that requires attention to itself.

That is why we need to learn these two kinds of analysis, Technical and Fundamental so that we will know what to do in case some trading problem is put in our hands.  Trading or investing without the proper knowledge to analyze the market will only bring bankruptcy to our fund.  Aside from learning, we also need to learn when to use these two.  As given by the explanation in the earlier reply, both are very important but each has its own purpose and use.  Technical Analysis is best for traders to know the entry and exit points of the trades in the short-term while Fundamental analysis favors investors more since fundamental analysis is more inclined to longer-term trades since fundamental analysis is more focused on the intrinsic value of an item and the factor that may affect the future value of an item. 

Why would only focus on one if you could have both? If you are a trader then you could really make out some other ways on how you would gonna able to deal yourself within the market.

This isnt something simple that you could handle with and thats why it would really be just normal that you would be finding another strategy which could really able to adapt on that certain condition.

which it would be resulting on having both TA and FA learnings and neither you could combine the two if its needed.Doesnt matter on how many things you would be using
as long it would really benefit out then thats what counts.

Indeed, a trader needs knowledge about TA and moreover master it in order to analyze the market once they want to take the position. This analysis is very helpful for trading in the Spot market or even in the future or trading with leverage, to set the Long or Short position.
Basically, TA is more complicated to master moreover it is about analyzing the graphic, and the possibilities of the charts to rise up or go down at the certain rate. TA is always needed for traders even there is no specific news that will be the FA. But if there is specific news in this case certain FA, it will also help to get a stronger TA at that time.

Fixed this one for you  :). 


I think it does matter.  Knowing the best method or approach will not only boost our profit but also save time.  Time is gold as they say, so saving more of it in analyzing the market movement will give us more time to check on additional investments and possible profitable trading pairs.



Indeed TA with lots of available formulas and methods, it is really complicated to learn but once mastered, it will greatly boost our trading confidence and more importantly, our profit.

It should be understood that the market is dynamic and often requires different types of analysis. And the results of the work also depend on this.

I want to say to everyone, don't ever speculate without TA and FA,
because I think both of them deserve to be understood and studied,
without TA and FA we will not be able to analyze or speculate properly and correctly.

I wouldn't really be believing the situation to be fair, it sounds like that TA and FA are not even in the same room for me, and I agree with you that any good trader should be able to just read the TA with just corner of their eye and know what they are looking at. Like if they see a chart, and a line drawn, they need to understand what it is without further explanation, and that is how you become a great trader.

However, crypto is easier than that and doesn't require you to master it, even if you understand the momentum, you should be doing fine, and if all else fails, just buy and hold it for a decade, you will profit one way or another anyway.

Its just like you are a blind person on where you cant see something yet you know that you dont even make use of these things then there's no way that you could read up a chart.
Even the market is unpredictable but doesnt mean  that it would really be that needing any things like these. You would see the significance of these things once you do realize
that dealing with the market isnt something simple or easy.So its up to someone whether which one they would making use and as long it would really be that effective or something
that do contribute on your winning or success trades then its up to you.

Fundamental analysis is king, but somehow you might be late to the party because of late information. But its the best signal to max out on profiting when you pick it early. However, Technical usually shows FA for anyone who patiently checks that particular coin. So as a regular trader, its more better to have an understanding of the two and how to apply it when it's needed.

You are right, by having a total understanding of what the market is we can have an idea of how to use technical analysis, this reminds me of a book that when they made comparisons between technical and fundamental analysis, those who are chartists only they dedicated themselves to looking for patterns and for them there was nothing else but the patterns, in part these patterns are sometimes repeated, but you have to understand that this is not the case, the patterns are repeated in certain cases but what really matters is having a complete analysis , that is, the fundamental is more technical and even so, sometimes doubts arise about how to operate.