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Imagine someone offers you to choose between 2 wallets, each worth 15k. Which one would you choose?

option 1: 12 coins worth $15.000
$1.250 Shiba Inu (SHIBA)
$1.250 Polygon (MATIC)
$1.250 Cosmos (ATOM)
$1.250 ApeCoin (APE)
$1.250 Decentraland (MANA)
$1.250 The Sandbox (SAND)
$1.250 Gala (GALA)
$1.250 Chiliz (CHZ)
$1.250 Enjin (ENJ)
$1.250 Moonbeam (GLMR)
$1.250 Acala Token (ACA)
$1.250 Astar (ASTR)

option 2: 15 coins worth $15.000
$1.000 Ethereum (ETH)
$1.000 Solana (SOL)
$1.000 Avalanche (AVAX)
$1.000 Shiba Inu (SHIBA)
$1.000 Polygon (MATIC)
$1.000 Cosmos (ATOM)
$1.000 ApeCoin (APE)
$1.000 Decentraland (MANA)
$1.000 The Sandbox (SAND)
$1.000 Gala (GALA)
$1.000 Chiliz (CHZ)
$1.000 Enjin (ENJ)
$1.000 Moonbeam (GLMR)
$1.000 Acala Token (ACA)
$1.000 Astar (ASTR)

personally i am prefer second portofolio list, spread our assets into more coins will give us more various profit or risk potency. with ethereum avalanche and solana in top list it will give us bigger probability while market in bullish trend. with 250$ differences in each coins, i think it should not be problem about return in future.

Well, I don't have to expand that amount to that many of altcoins. I could have invest that in bitcoin and ethereum alone or just bitcoin. It's not necessary to be that much diversified IMO. Okay to diversify but I think 10+ coins is already a lot to play on your money with them.
Too much of it I think won't work for me. Still, I'd go with the king and eth.

meanwhile in altcoin we have opportunity to get return more than 2x only in short time which is we could find in bitcoin or ethereum. altcoin project have potency while they developt good product and crypto community accept it , for example blockchain projects with less transaction fee and high tps or maybe in play to earn project. but overall i am agree maybe around 5-6 enough for us.

Yeah, same here, would rather be BTC or ETH.

Anyhow, not sure, for me it's too many in my portfolio. Maybe I'm just old school or doesn't want to complicate things with that many cryptos with me.

Don't get me wrong, but it's better to just cut that in half, probably 5 or 6 coins will be enough, just solid one to maintain for long term.

I think I will choose the second option. Because there are patterns Ethereum, Solana, Avalanche, if one invests in them, the amount of profit will be more than the loss. And it includes Shiba Inu, Polygon etc. These are very popular tokens. In my opinion, it is possible to make a profit if you invest in these stocks.

I am not familiar with other coins but I would rather choose Bitcoin and Ethereum or BNB rather than other coins such as ShibaInu, APE I don't really like those kind of coins would rather choose high capacity coins rather than low cap and useless coins.

Between the 2 options, I will choose the second one with a bit of an adjustment.

I choose it because of the top 3 coins that have been added but I'm a bit concern on why you didn't include Bitcoin on it. I mean it would be better if you will remove the bottom 3 and will invest it into Bitcoin. That would be lesser risk.

Aside from the bottom 3, all that you put here is quite popular especially MATIC, SHIB and now the APE which is the hype right now. Maybe changing some coins and pick those top staking coins would be better such as XTZ, DOT etc. Just my opinion only.

I wonder why there are coins such as Gala (GALA), Chiliz (CHZ), Enjin (ENJ), Moonbeam (GLMR), Acala Token (ACA), Astar (ASTR) while there are many other good coins that you can buy.
But if you should choose, I suggest you select number 2 and sell those coins I mention and buy back more Ethereum, SOL, AVAX, and maybe buy BNB.
I wonder who will allow you to have that wallet.
But if that is right, you will be happy to have all of those coins.

Because i think at least some of them will have potential to 5x, 10x or even more in some time while bitcoin is less risk but will not 5x or 10x during 1 year.

My aim is to create an offensive allocation and im wondering if its too risky to not include the big 3 eth/avax/sol

I have voted for the first pick. The reason is if it will be more easy to earn from your first list rather than second. I will not consider the major coin like ethereum as a promising investment anymore. It's so hard to make good return from the big coins. If you are only using one thousands USD to invest in ethereum and how much you expect to earn from ethereum? another 1k? is it possible for ethereum to reach 6k or even more this year? so the first choice totally a sense portfolios for now.

I prefer not to invest in 15 projects because they are very difficult to follow. Polkadot is currently undervalued in relation to Ethereum and Cosmos, although I see that you want to invest in the top 3 ecosystem projects of the Polkadot ecosystem.

All of the coins listed have a huge potential in the market and have proven their worth but I prefer 12 coins I cannot keep with that number of coins honestly I only have 10 coins in my portfolio, this is the number that I can manage to follow, I can add more coins but not with the same amount of funds I invested on the coins in my portfolio.

I would put 25% in ETH other 25% in SOL and rest of money on other coins. ETH and SOL are like a safe option and the others are much smaller with bigger margin to grow.

That's really a lot of coin. We'll personally I would spread my investment to different coin but not with more than 10 coin maybe around 5-8 coins from the top 10 coins listed in the Coinmarketcap but if I would you I would invest 60-70% of my total investment to Bitcoin and Ethereum I am sure that it will be worth it.

Where is BTC and BNB, why are they not listed you? I admit that Ethereum is an incoming investment and has potential value for the long term.

But for me this is too many coins, I don't really like portfolios with lots of coins that I don't know which means I don't keep up with the developments except for the current top 3 coins then it's already in my bag.

I think $15,000 is a big amount 50% is suitable for Bitcoin and 20$ for Ethereum so the rest is according to coins which we can follow all developments.

I think that you should cut off some tokens from both of lists. this is probably better rather than spreading your money into the so many tokens in the market. I do know that you wanna get decent profit from the market but what you are doing totally a non sense thing for now. investing average 1k dollars to the so many tokens that have big capitalization and so what you expect from those tokens. Did you wanna see those become hundreds of billions marketcap project. Im sure that if the chance was very small to happen or almost impossible.
It's better to re build your portfolios again but if you are getting restricted to trade on exchange site and why don't you use dex to get a new attractive investment?

It's true that we shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket, but that doesn't mean you have to split your capital and invest multiple altcoins at once. It will hardly bring significant profit to you.

To optimize your profits, you should sitdown take your time and analyze all the coins you listed above doing thorough research. Choose 2 to 3 altcoins that interest you the most. Use the $15k you have to invest in the 3 altcoins you have chosen, you can invest $10k and hold $5k in your wallet. Wait until the market drops, you can execute the necessary DCA strategy and wait for the market to rise again, you will make the best profit.

I personally don't like either the first or the second option! Too many unfamiliar coins for me, some I had but got out of them because of the high transaction fees, especially those on the Ethereum chain!
But the fact that I don't like it doesn't matter, if OP did the research and if he believes in this choice he should make this investment! While you research you think, but when you make a decision you should stick to it!

what do you think about reducing it to:

5x high market cap:
Ethereum (ETH)
Solana (SOL)
Avalanche (AVAX)
Shiba Inu (SHIBA)
Polygon (MATIC)

2x mid market cap:
ApeCoin (APE)
The Sandbox (SAND)

3x low market cap:
Moonbeam (GLMR)
Acala Token (ACA)
Astar (ASTR)


or is 10 even too much and should i reduce my investments even more?

Aside from the coin choices like everyone said, there is nothing wrong with going 15. I mean it would be wiser to distribute it to proper coins that would do well, instead of stuff like shiba or ape or whatever, but at the end of the day its our own money and whatever you want to buy with it, you should do that. If you lose money with these, then you will see how and why you lost it, and that way you could do much better. I personally believe that it would be wiser to put your money into top 15 and remove the memes and stables out of it, which would mean 15 coins in the top 20-25 when you remove those, and thats a good start. However, thats just what I think, and its your own money, you will be the one who gives the final decision.

If someone asked me to choose two wallets out of many that have a value of $15k, of course I would choose ApeCoin and Polygon. I see great potential still lurking in these two coins. I think last year's bullrun isn't over for these two coins yet.

both are good but i’d choose the 2nd option just in case if the market turning really bad at least the major altcoins could somehow saves your ass.
the first ones honestly also seems attractive because it could gives you better return of investment if you find bullish trend in the upcoming months and maybe year and you still could hold it for the long term.
but for the safety of investment and risk management dividing investment in various baskets is always the more recommended way so i’d be settling the 2nd option
otherwise if you think 15k is just some measly amount and you have higher tolerance of risk in terms investing then first option could do well it’s all based from your own needs honestly.

Make me stress with your option have to invest on many coins and I think with your fund $15,000 I will all in on one or two altcoin and keep easy when tracking dip or higher price. Take busy and need many hours analyze until 15 coins for trading or investing although have several list are potential altcoin but I like with put money on one bracket. But have good decision when analyze which one potential coin for investing and I think $15,000 is worth invest on ethereum coin than you have check until 15 coins.

Can you even make it become even smaller? like just try to invest in less than 12 tokens? i know that you wanna diversify your portfolios into the various tokens but i just remind you that when you are also seeing it if it's not so good for your portfolios. Too many tokens in your portfolios will make it not focus in term looking for the capital gain. The price movement will be so difficult to happen. I think that it will be far better if you are putting like less than 10 choices in your portfolios. This will give more portion to the any potential token. You must also eliminate the major coin as well. Im sure that you will get nothing from there

What time frame? 1 month, 1 year, 10 years?

Out of those 2 wallets I would definitely chose wallet 2 because there is at least 1000$ in valuable project (ETH) that I know will survive bear market that we are in (most likely). So in long way wallet 1 will lose 99% in value in next few years, while wallet 2 will lose 95%.

Investing in shiba inu? XD man its not 2020-2021. Meme coins train is already gone. This joke is not funny anymore.
SOL, AVAX, ATOM - do you think they will survive after ETV v2 launch? All faster and cheaper ETH alternatives are good only because Eth is expensice ... for now.
SAND and MANA - they are evaluated so high compared to user base they have. Whole metaverse is too much hyped right now. Of course its a big thing. Of course whole industry will grow 1000x ... but not in 2022, not in 2025. Until then most of most hyped projects that we see now will die. Metaverse will be a big thing after Neuralink success. Maybe in 2030. And I doubt that someone who will deliver brain implants (neuralink or its successor) will not create a metaverse game for it and let other projects eat cake.


50% bitcoin, 20%BNB, 20% ETH, 10% microcaps (below top 500 cmc) to have exposure to positive black swans.

I could possibly reduce it to 5:

Polygon (MATIC)
ApeCoin (APE)
Moonbeam (GLMR)
Acala Token (ACA)
Astar (ASTR)

Very aggressive approach tho

Its not about number of coins. Its about the fact that there are 18 000 projects. Most of them will fail. Like 99.99%. Out of those 18 000 projects 17995 are shitcoins made to grab as much money as it is possible and run away. There is no way to pick a good coin that will succeed in long run (especially now after 100x gains in 2021) . Why?

in 2017 the most popular (one and only) DEX was etherdelta. No one is using it now because liquidity pools were invented and uniswap presented 100x better product. What gives you the certainty that no one will deliver 10x better product than polygon have now? Or all of above shitcoins? You know what really matters? Money and user base. Thats all. All innovation, faster chain, cheaper chain, more secured chain, better code is only a open source code without user base. BNB can copy paste it and present it to their user base (tens of millions of users) and spend bilions of $$ to announce "their" innovative update to everyone. And use coinmarketcap to announce it even further (Binance own coinmarketcap). than present it to 15M followers that binance have on twitter (together with Cz account). What will your shitcoin do in this situation with 500 user base? Nothing. So ETH, BNB and Bitcoin is the only choice that is not a gamble.

It looks good but you can consider to add more and try to take 7 or 8 portfolios as the maximum amounts that can be listed in your list. If you are spreading your money in so many token or coin and it will be very harder to control your assets. Remember how crypto investment. The more capital and the more gain but when you are putting less and you will also get less. 5 look so good but you can increase it to the 7 kinds of coins from the market.
In my opinion investing in the major coin are the way to waste your time. You can't get big reward from there. So the portfolios above look good.

For MATIC, there is no doubt that the next BNB or The Next Ethereum, the more Devs. which diverted to the Polygon network which was proven to be faster and cheaper, I was sure that in 2022 the price of matic could reach 2 digits or at least reaching $ 30.

Matic is a great asset, some development projects did turn to the adoption of the Polygon blockchain. but I think BEP-20 is still the focus for this year. but including it in the list of assets we invest in is not bad.

I saw the current market conditions, I tried to buy SAND and GALA. I'm just trying my luck on these two assets. just to try in the short term. or the long term possibility these two assets could just make a big pump.

Of course I will choose the second option because in the second option there are several coins that have strong fundamentals and are also very popular in the market such as Eth, Sol, Avax and Matic by holding these coins will certainly open up opportunities for us to get bigger profits in the future , especially the four coins they don't just rely on the hype, but they grow with the development of the ecosystem so it is very possible that the price will be higher in the long term.

None of the two. Too many meme coins or coins with nothing better to offer. None of list has bitcoin on them. The first one is even worse compared to the second one. The second one at least has Ethereum, Solana and few other well known top coins.
It's good to spread your investment, but put most of it in Bitcoin and Ethereum. Safer and in the long run will give you some good profit. The rest of the coins has higher risk and might fail in the future.

Ethereum (ETH)
Solana (SOL)
Avalanche (AVAX)
Polygon (MATIC)
ApeCoin (APE)
Moonbeam (GLMR)
Acala Token (ACA)
Astar (ASTR)

Is this a good mix of stability and chances or are 8 coins too much again?

I have made profits with altcoins too but I'm just chilling holding bitcoin and ethereum and not to worry when to sell with it. I just sell whenever I want and I don't want to be pressured by the market checking out those alts that I've just bought.
I want to have it slowly but surely and I get satisfied if ever I sell at anytime that I wish or when it's necessary and needed based on the situation that I'm dealing with.

Why there is no Bitcoin on those two portfolios it's a bad portfolio not having Bitcoin on it, Bitcoin should have a big share of every portfolio its not really a question of 12 or 15 coins but if you can keep up with that number of coins you can have only 5 coins but getting more profits than having 12 or 15 coins.

How much you expect to gain from bitcoin with only 1k - 2k investment? do you think bitcoin will be doubled instantly? I think that you didn't even calculate this and you forgot if it's not all of people have bunch of money to invest in all of coins. Bitcoin's potential is not so good for the small investors. If bitcoin will be increasing only 1 - 10 % and you will get a very small return for your investment. This is rarely happening as well until the big pump will come soon but you can expect to get more return from the altcoins.
That's why creator of this thread is not even thinking to invest in the bitcoin as he wants to get more profit from the market.

IMO, I think thats a very low amount for that large number of coins, and for me, 3 coins are enough already that's why I think I will remove those other coins. and instead, I will choose Matic, Solana, and Ethereum. I believe these coins are more promising compared to other coins who are listed in the two portfolios so it has more chances to give us a better profit if we choose better coins.

That looks good for me. Some major coins used as safe investment for long term and use the rest to bet into the small cap tokens. It's more balancing rather than put mostly of your money into the big cap coins. You can expect a huge gain from the small cap coins in your portfolios and try to use safe investment like major coins as a way to get small return for your investment but this is more stable rather than low cap tokens caused by the support and volume are very strong.
That's a good mix. Will you use that list above?

I did not vote since I do not support the idea of holding too much of coins or assets in a portfolio. Specially when considering that the one posting has a newbie account which can be a reflection of how new op is to this industry. TBH, most veterans out there have less than 10 altcoins in their main portfolios that gobble up the majority of their capital(heck I even think that 10 is too much) and another portfolio that has too little allocation for shitcoins(which mostly are for entertainment or gambling purposes only). Just think about it op, with every single asset you hold, you have to keep track of the progress of the developers in relation to their roadmap, news, the community, new partners and so much more. Imagine doing that with 12-15 coins. Unless you don't have other things to allocate your time to, this is way too difficult for a normal person. My advice is to keep it simple and have a lot of extra for DCA when price plunges or some good opportunities arise.

and whats ur opinion about:

Ethereum (ETH)
Solana (SOL)
Avalanche (AVAX)
Polygon (MATIC)
ApeCoin (APE)
Moonbeam (GLMR)
Acala Token (ACA)
Astar (ASTR)

??

This look too much to invest on, I know diversification is encouraged but this money will be better put in 3 or 4 solid project.
If you want all in alts then best ro choose 4 solid project to split the money, 25% each and this way you can monitor their growth easily. Long term projects should be your target, between there are some projects that you should not consider in that list.

I find diversifying the portfolio has both good and bad sides, but looking at the export options the OP mentioned, I also find it a compelling idea. Maybe the opinion of $ 15,000 for each person will also be different, but personally, I think this is a large amount and it is necessary to have a specific strategy to ensure profits as well as limit risks in a complex space. I still think BTC, ETH are the things that people should prioritize, and only spend a sufficient amount of their portfolio on carefully verified alts. There will be risky funds, but the less risky funds will make that investment more secure.

Simple answer is that all these are good coins to hold that is based on what I have heard only and not because of personal research. If it were me though, I would only keep ethereum, solana, avalanche and polygon from that list if I really want to play it safe and don't want the trouble of keeping track of these other coins that I have not read much about. But hey, don't take my word for it people do things differently, better do yourself a favor and try researching about these coins yourself instead of asking here which may mislead you. By doing your own research, you will be able to understand how capable you are in terms of time and patience, which will help you determine for yourself how many coins you can keep track and which ones are worth the effort of keeping track.

I prefer the option number 2 because it has ETH in it.

But why you chose these coins to be in your list? Are you trying to invest in these coins? Its good to diversify but 12-15 coins are too much especially majority of your choices has less potential. If you have a huge capital and going to diversify then choose the established coins, 4-6 coins for me are better instead of having many coins in your portfolio.

Im thinking about reducing it to

Ethereum (ETH)
Solana (SOL)
Avalanche (AVAX)
Polygon (MATIC)
ApeCoin (APE)
Moonbeam (GLMR)
Acala Token (ACA)
Astar (ASTR)

Whats ur opinion about it?

In fact, I wouldn't choose any of these baskets. First, I have not thoroughly researched all of these projects. Second, at $ 5k in my opinion, these baskets are too big. In my opinion, with such funds, the basket should consist of about 6 coins.
I would divide them into 3 parts because of the risk.
2 coins most stable
2 medium risk
2 new promising projects

isnt 8 ok? 4 solid, 1 hyped and 3 promising projects

Ethereum (ETH)
Solana (SOL)
Avalanche (AVAX)
Polygon (MATIC)
ApeCoin (APE)
Moonbeam (GLMR)
Acala Token (ACA)
Astar (ASTR)

One or two is the same, I'll sell them all and start with a new portfolio. I don't want someone to provide input on the altcoins I hold, for no reason whatsoever. It's just that I will research myself and try my best for each fund I manage it, I will leave half of that fund for day trading and finding another trend.

I wonder why from those much $15k, no Bitcoin investment? seriously?
Such a wasting investment in crypto if should spend that much money without Bitcoin in my personal opinion.
If I were the investor, I will use 70% more to invest in Bitcoin, Ethereum, and also BNB. And the least is for altcoin investment.
But, if I should prefer or choose one of them,
I will prefer to choose the second list, At least there are still some worthy coins such as Ethereum, Matic, and Avax

Both are good investment to me. Personally, I invest shib and mana coin for long term (25/30 months). Besides, I invest many coins. But option 1 and option 2 are all good coins which are dominating in future. But, bitcoin and eth are good for investment for long term.

OPtion 2 for 15coin is a good investment than option 1 because there are 3 major altcoins in added to this portfolio ETH, SOL, and AVAX, these altcoins are best, and also others added in option 2 for future investment. so you can choose option 2.

Option 2 looks better. Because you can divide your money more. But I suggest you invest more money on BTC and ETH. Because even if all cryptocurrencies sink, I think that these 2 cryptocurrencies will not sink. Because according to me, BTC is the king of crypto money and ETH is the second king after it. But it's fine to split your portfolio like that. Of course, the decision is still up to you.

Where did you see that if he was mentioning 15 coins from the list? i think that you are not even focusing to read or what? Is there something wrong with you for now? that doesn't make sense to see that. He was only mentioning less than 10 coins from any list of his portfolios but it seems you were adding more or what? i think that if you must try to see the thread carefully again dude.


The more risk and the more gain.

Looks not any time for research with 15 coins in daily days but worth when investing maximum 2 until 3 coins based on my minds, maybe if OP can research until 15 coins is not wrong decision to invest money there, but I don't see with worth and profitable spent money almost 15 coins to buy, better keep try investing with 2 until 3 potential coin like BTC, ETH and BNB, take profit on daily day without get risk and not waste many time for researching coin.

Actually, any option can be chosen as long as there are always good coins in it as you mentioned, so it's not a matter of option 1 or 2, but rather choosing a good coin and where it is located so that everyone can also set it into a long-term measure. long or short term.

The second option is better, a crypto portfolio without Ethereum, Solana and Avax is incomplete, I can't afford 15,000$ for building a crypto portfolio but I can definitely invest 100$ per every altcoins I have in mind, actually they are over 15 pieces in number, Star atlas, Metahero, Lunaverse, etc are on my list.

To be fair adding some and removing others couldn't be a bad decision neither. I do agree that there are some bad choices there, and it should be removed and more trusted stuff like btc should be added in there. I am not saying that I would make a decision based on 12 or 15, because to me it is not about the number of coins you invest into, but the quality of it.

I would say 12 beats 15 in a situation where 12 has better coins, but 15 beats 12 when there is better additions. Here, we see that the 3 coins that added are more trustable coins and I would pick that, but if in case it was the other way around, I would have said no to 3 shitcoins if they were added.

Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB, LTC, ADA, AVAX, DOT, MATIC, UNI, CAKE, XMR, WAVE, EOS, XTZ, SOL. Here you go, 15 coins that you could distribute 1000 to each. However, I would highly suggest that you do not get 1k of each right away, that would be a bad idea.

Instead buy 100 bucks worth of them each Monday, or whichever day you pick, that way you would know that you are getting it in 2.5 months and takes about 9 weeks give or take. That should give you a 2.5 month average and allow you to do DCA, this would prevent you losing money if it goes down next, and that way you could average it down if it goes down. I would say it's trustable coins and they are not memes, they are not hypes, they are legit coins as well.