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Original account:  NoorulHuda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3359339)
Posts: 842
Activity: 196
Merit Earned in last 30 days: 184
Total Merits Earned: 268 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3359339)

Dear Moderators/Theymos,

I’m requesting to consider my ban appeal which apparently happened due to plagiarism.

Al though I have been very careful but in recent accusations thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094661.msg59350267#msg59350267) I got to know my mistake, where I used my brother’s ETH address. Honestly that was my first try out of curiosity to join any signature campaign. I’m here in bitcointalk for entertainment and learning purpose only. Signature campaign was never my target anyway and my post history is proof for this.

Long story short I have posted my brothers ETH address who’s account was already banned and I was unaware about the ETH address rule. It’s Not that I can’t prove that it was not my account but my brothers account, but that proof won’t apply here since everything is online and anonymous.

In the end please I will appeal for unban, please visit my posts history as a proof, my intention never been to spam or account farming or merit farming whatever I fall into.

This was my only personal account, I don’t have any other account or linked to any account in any other way.

Please moderators or theymos unban my account.

If your ban was for plagiarism then what does this have to do with your "brother"?

As far as I've seen, you've been heavily spamming WO with useless copypasta so I don't think you'll be missed. You should go to Twitter.

I don't quite understand it. On February 24 YOSHIE reported him for ban evasion in the thread that the OP himself has linked to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094661.msg59350267#msg59350267

So he should have been banned, and I don't know why he was not. Maybe they gave him the benefit of the doubt in case the banned account was his "brother"? 

But if plagiarism is now added to it, I don't see much future for this account.

When you know your mistake, you're only allowed to post a ban appeal with your alts, not evade the ban.


Wrong, if signature campaign wasn't your target, why you keep applying to other campaign when you've accepted in your previous campaign? That's mean signature campaign is your target and you wanted to earn better payment.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386600.msg59517606#msg59517606
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386600.msg59517606#msg59517606
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233355.msg59748889#msg59748889
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5326641.msg59816577#msg59816577
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280190.msg59834820#msg59834820
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390302.msg59926868#msg59926868

Most of your post only spam, shitpost and copy pasting. Your most merits come from @shahzadafzal and @UmerIdrees. This three accounts exchanging their merits in local board and no one can know what they're talking about.

I find this is interesting, can you write in english what does you wrote?

Cosmic Beyonders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3444967) is using the same merit farming strategy (Pakistan and WO threads) as NoorulHuda, and there has been a significant amount of merit exchanged between these two. I'm quite sure I reported both of them but I'm not really keeping track so I might be wrong. There have been a few newbies recently merit-whoring in WO.

So your "brother's" account was banned on 7/24/2020  but then a year later July 23, 2021, you registered on the forum and then several months later in 2022, you asked him for his Ether address and private keys so that you could apply for a bounty campaign.

Did you find this lie believable?

More lies

It looks like someone is guilty of something. How many more alts have you farmed through your merit circle?

I can only say that I put the OP on ignore because of his pointless posts in the WO which included oversized images for which he was repeatedly warned. Besides, I don't think anything good about those who promote a site that shills bch trash by presenting it as real Bitcoin.

Whether it is a plagiarism ban or a ban evasion given all the evidence presented and possible alt accounts that include merit abuse, I see no reason for a second chance - although the decision is of course up to the forum administration.

NoorulHuda2, you suggested we take a look at the history of your forum posts and I did.
As you probably know, the basic criteria for abolishing permaban on this forum is the quality of posts, contribution to the forum and the support of the forum community.
As far as I can see, you don't have the support of the forum community, and the quality of your posts and contribution to the forum is minor.
Mostly you publish big pictures with very little content and that is not satisfactory.
Of course, you are free to ask for an unban but I think you have very little basis for such a request.

You're the guy that sent me a message to delete my post that was pointing out clearly  you were making topics out of one-click copy-paste (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392562.msg59720057#msg59720057) and not even bothering to check what you have posted (https://ninjastic.space/post/59720057) one full hour after it.
Obviously, you had prepared texts for topics on WO and for posts and you messed them up rushing to be the first to get merits.

All your history screams merit begging and you try to farm that in the WO topics with useless memes and news bits.


I've put him earlier on ignore after that thing with the topics I've mentioned and after seeing he can't take a break from pushing religious propaganda around.

Well, She is banned now. I don't think she was banned for Plagiarism. She posts Twitter screenshots and other news on the WO thread with the source from her Posts history. She got banned for ban evading, which YOSHIE reported. Moderators check them manually, so it might take a long time to take action. But, That's all my guess. It could be another thing.

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They have very few numbers of people from their country on Bitcointalk. Their monthly stats show they have less than 35 active people on their local thread, which was only 28 before the last month. So, It's not surprising if we see their merit circulating to a few people only.


Anyone from Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, and UAE can easily understand what they are talking about. I am from one of those countries. Sometimes I do share my posts on their local thread, so I am very familiar with the guys you have mentioned.


They were talking about Bitcoin. shahzadafzal mentioned a few of them and asked them when they first heard about Bitcoin. Especially Irfan_pak, Because he has been there since 2014. NoorulHuda Responded there and said she heard about Bitcoin in 2018.

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This is not the first time we have seen this. A Lot of people do this to rank up their profile. I also tried to get some merits from the WO thread in my newbie days. From these stats: https://ninjastic.space/user/naim027?topics, You can see that I have posted 174 posts on the WO thread from a total of 902 posts which is %19.29 of my total posts.
If you visit the WO thread, You will find more newbies trying to get some merits. I don't believe all of them are shit posters. Of course, there are some exceptions.

First of all you are thinking that. Let quote your second method too.

Merit whoring?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg59852588#msg59852588

I told in this post I am here only for learning. When I post a news and I wait for the replies and always think the Legends always give a good and I will learn from them.

Here you can see I was writing the page and post ref. Where anyone teached me.
And in my free time I always check and learn and try to improve my self.

https://i.ibb.co/HN1rLDR/20220424-164141.jpg You all should check this image.

This is a little part I have two to three pages.

So I will not say anything my work will proof my self.

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This is also a new thing for me. I didn't know about that.


Sir when I came here on this forum I didn't know about the signature campaign my community told me about that. And then I joined. And even don't know about rules and my first apply considered as ban evasion. And why I used brothers ETH I will explain in my next quote. And your question why I was applying so I want expand my self. If I selected so I go to the gambling area and also learn from them.

Here is the proof community members say to join signature.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg59342662#msg59342662
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg59344330#msg59344330

Not to shitposts. And if you are saying that I am giving a news with source link and it is the copy pasting so I don't think so. They never gave merits on my political debate they gave me merits to those posts on which I deserve.

Of course I can.
First of all we all are talking about the crypto stories and I shared mine. And this was mine.

That was my story which asked in English.

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I didn't tell a lie you should read my upper post. And and why I wasn't here because I got married in 2021 and now I opened up my account again.


Answered given above.


I have only one. And I will never make a new one if I didn't get it back. Because I really hard work on my account.

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Sir I was in the WO only for learning. And I have explained very well above. Ignoring wasn't the solution. You could teach me. BTW now I was posting with resized images you may check.

And for administration I hope they will understand and will unban my account.

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I will also try if there will be 1% chance to get my account back.
And I mostly have debate on politics in my local board therefore it looks like my posts are meaningless.

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I was just editing my post at that time. Getting links and thinking the rules etc.

Religious propaganda. Thanks for blaming.

I don't understand what you learned by posting countless articles, which must have led many to ignore you, and some others to start digging through your post history. The key thing is to find out if you have been banned for plagiarism (which would mean that you have a chance for forgiveness), or if it is a ban evasion for which you do not have even a 1% chance of getting your account back.

The story of how you took an address from your brother who was already banned is something no one will believe you and people have already become allergic to it.

You said you will learn and will leave the thread but you continued posting zero-effort copypasta from news sites. Again, this is perfectly valid for Twitter and other garbage "social media", and it might even be ok if you posted it on Bitcointalk in your own thread (subject to bumping rules though), but that's not what you did, is it.

And unsurprisingly for an account farmer, you're breaking the rules with multiposting in your ban appeal thread.

Sir I think you didn't take a look on my photo which I shared. I am still on learning stage.
When I share any article or a chart to WO then wait for the replies. And collect the Idea what the seniors think.

And my story is real so it can be allergic but it is real. And if you look the whole history I mostly leanrn many things step by step.

I am still on learning stage so this WO posting should neglect. Because I was still learning.

Many of us learn the whole forum rules like how to post how to quote they take couple of months. And I am also one of them.
I think I will post like others good posters time by time. If I got my account back.

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Corrected my post now.

You think that it is zero effort. I always choose the best article or a chart or anything else. I don't know others. But I know that. I collect a good article or a chart after thousand of posts or articles.

I've given an example in my photo. I have written replies which I got on my articles and I always try to learn from it.

You may check 37) referenced in my photo. And take a look I have written the page and post reference.

The key word here is "again". So you're admitting that it was actually your account that was banned, not your brother's?


I am sorry to disappoint you, but it does not work that way. You have to demonstrate that your account was beneficial to the community and that you had positive contributions. I do not see that from your history.

Read the quoted message too. He blaming that you registered account in 2021. I opened up it again in 2022. It means I login again in 2022.


My post history is full of political debate. In my Local Board.
But I think I should never lose my hope.

Op, your account is grown and fine but ruined it.

I wish you could be heard.
Your presentation of the case is showing that you don't know why your account was banned.
You said your account was banned because of plagiarism but still in the body you used the ethereum address of an account that was previously banned. That isn't plagiarism, it is ban evasion.
Unless you committed plagiarism else where.
The whole thing boils down on, you wanted to cheat the forum.

@NoorulHuda2, is the address "0x96b74f1fD466E0291b00C96aC752b47c0E5dF696" also the address of the person you call your brother?
the address has transactions that are older than the life of your account.
your account is registered in July 2021. while the address has transactions in May 2021.
even make transactions to the same address as the account address that you call "brother".

you can see it again : https://etherscan.io/address/0xb13f77d0388c3466aa75ba63ae56d5e9d8d1d296
https://i.ibb.co/mGjnsQx/noorul.png (https://ibb.co/f2g3Rmc)

https://i.ibb.co/2y70wp7/nur.png (https://ibb.co/wRNZT2N)

https://i.ibb.co/tXhG44J/norul.png (https://ibb.co/pyP7xxL)

I'm sure your account was banned not because of plagiarism. it is clear as reported by @YOSHIE.

and my assumption, both accounts are yours, and not your "brother"

For your kind information. I am still not able to send any transaction. Because I think if there will be any mistake so I will lose my assets.

And this address also given by him.

And you think that both accounts mine but you are wrong.
I can explain with story. But it can be allergic. So I will not do this.
And thing is that I can't explain on internet that who am I?

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Here Again I learned. Because still I was thinking that it is plagiarism.
Because I am just guessing based on the message appearing on top in red which says banned due to “spamming or plagiarism”
https://i.ibb.co/jksH0nm/20220424-230042.jpg

184 merits in last 30 days wow... but all went in vain. To be honest I was expecting this since I saw that accusation thread, not sure why it took so long?

You have right to appeal and I can surely say you were an asset to our small Pakistan community, this is so unfortune you got caught up in this mess but I have little hope that you can get out of this.

Just last month you were on top among our local community


I think your case is not related to plagiarism but related to your brother's account which was banned because of plagiarism and since you used the same ETH address which makes a=b, b=c thus a=c. I mean there's no way to prove that if it was your account or your brother's account. If moderators have to trust your words then there will be long queue and many more will popup with such excuses.

I'm sure you must have sent email also on the email address provided to you and hope if any moderator stumbles upon this thread and gets convinced.

and I think you should blame your brother too... he was banned and he knew it and still gave you same address which he used on bitcointalk  :)

In the end based on my interactions with you for quite some time and since you had mentioned this to us even before this accusation that you came to bitcointalk because of your brother (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg59761840#msg59761840), I believe what you are saying is truth but yes you did a mistake and moderators have a strong evidence to ban you,  now it's up to them if they get convinced too and give you a chance.

Your first account was banned due to plagiarism, your second account was banned due to ban evasion. What is still not clear? Your third and subsequent accounts will be banned for the same reason, since you cannot create new accounts while your old account is banned. Your story about your brother's address on the crypto forum makes absolutely no sense, and it is impossible to prove.

Lol, but is that the case? Two months to handle a ban evading case seems too much to me. I don't know if any moderator or someone who has experience with ban evasion reporting can clarify this for us.

Hmm, Look like she was banned for Ban Evading. According to Noorulhuda, Her Brother was banned from the forum a while ago for Plagiarism. Now she got banned for ban evading. So, She thought she was banned for her brother's Plagiarism. She is not from my country, but I am familiar with her because I usually post on their local thread. The account was connected with ETH Address, and according to her, She used her Brother's ETH Address. The interesting thing is, She said, She heard about this forum from her brother, who was banned for plagiarism. I guess it's almost impossible to prove that they are not the same person. Let's see if any mods respond here.

Dear Moderators

I’m still wondering and looking for exact reason why my account is banned. Since this is my guess from the message that it’s plagiarism, but I’m also sure I always provided source in my every post.

Second is it ban evasion then I rest my case on your judgements since I used ETH address of my brothers account.

I will appreciate if I can get exact reason please.

The message you get is a generic message that everyone gets when they get a permanent ban. If this was plagiarism, someone would have already found a post that contains plagiarism, and I doubt that the ban was issued due to spam, given that there are members who have hundreds of deleted posts and are still active.

I hope that some of the mods/admins will clarify what exactly it is about so we don't have to guess.

My perma ban took 3-4 weeks to kick in. Logged in to check on a charity auction I was running and was taken back. That’s a long story I’ll never live down..but yeah, mods are busy at times is all.


I would advise you wait at least 2 weeks before posting again. You’re doing yourself no favors to keep asking in short time periods.  Your story is confusing and not much adds up in my quick review, but maybe they’ll see something I don’t. The mods are very fare here despite what some try to say.  If you deserve another chance you’ll get it. But give this thread some time. If nothing changes in day two weeks then it simply means they’ve made up their minds. However at that time, if you have someone who is a member here write up a thread as to why you deserve another chance, and there’s legit stuff in it with testimonials from user in support, that could give you one final shot. If not, unfortunately time to move on.   

(No need to reply to me either. Give mods a break/time). 

Although mods have other reasons, in Op you have shown your own cause that your address is associated with a banned user. Unfortunately, for that reason you are unlikely to get a second chance based on similar cases in the past.

Hopefully you get forgiveness because you are an active user in your local discussion. But if you get it, I can expect a lot of old accounts that will wake up asking for justice and privileges like yours to have their ban lifted.

Your brother's account banned for plagiarism and his ETH wallet address you used has been caught and I doubt that why you are using his wallet address instead of creating your own? Cause as I saw your account you are a full member and eligible to became a senior member when you reach the activity needed which is in that ranks you should already know the rules and regulations here in forum. In that case when you caught using that address for sure they are suspecting that you and that banned user are one. And like other said above there's a doubt if the mods will trust your words cause if they are for sure many banned user will create a thread like this and make reason like this.

If your account is banned for plagiarism then it's up to the forum official like the admin to decide whether you will get unbanned or not. Even if you said that you got banned because of ban evasion due to your brother's account that you also use his wallet address which his account is banned first. This is most likely that it could be the same person but making an excuse that it's your brother's account and not yours.  As what I have read, you got banned not because of using your brother's wallet but from plagiarism. Consider your account as it is, the chance of getting unbanned is very very low to never.

Silence from NoorulHuda does it mean you have accepted the reality?

But I will still suggest don't give up yet. Our Pakistan local community still remembers you and just don't loose hope until you hear anything from moderators itself. Because your case in my understanding is not straight forward plagiarism or ban evasion and there are chances you used the old account of your brother since both account are not linked in any other way than one ETH Address and you already accepted your this mistake.

So it depends on the moderator now... By the way you can casually bump this thread to get attention, but please don't be annoying of course.

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There are some valuable suggestions from ChiBitCTy and if you are following these recommendation, you are on a good track. Just wait and give it a time.

Regarding the write thread for NoorulHuda i guess that will be ok only if moderator did not accept the story of "NoorulHuda", so until then any new thread would be of no benefit.

Thank you shahzadafzal for your support on this and yes you are right after I read the reply of ChiBitCTy I was following his instruction and thanks to him too.

I didn't give up yet and i won't give up either... my case is geniune I never did a plagirism and on my local thread i did mention about my brother before this all mess up situation. Yes my mistake is there but I'm sure if any moderator can go give some time to understand my case he/she will agree with me.

So until then I will just wait patiently and will be in reading mode spend time on twitter telegram etc.

Ok and regarding bump yes I'm aware but like ChiBitCTy said I will bump it maximum 1 time in 2 weeks.

I personally feel sorry for this situation, assuming this was actually a mistake and considering you are actually an active respected person on your local section.

I would like to know the outcome of this case when it happens, till then good luck with your life.

NoorulHuda2, why don't you ask for signature ban? may be someone will accept your mistake too?


Edit:

No no wait since your case not even discussed yet... so better just wait :D

ignore my above post for a while  :'(.

I have been thinking why no admin or moderator replied to me yet? Do I need to send DM to any one?

Can please someone guide me?

It isn't necessary but you can try it. What do you have to lose, you are already banned. Worst thing - you remain banned forever. Anything less than that (like a temp ban or a signature ban) is a plus in your book.
You are a newbie and maybe the staff you are planning to contact have disabled the possibility of newbies PMing them.

What you can do is explain what good you have done for the forum since you have been here and how the forum would benefit if you are given a second chance. If the staff like what they see, they might reconsider the ban...

If you think that 1 month of waiting is a lot of time, it means that you are not very familiar with how the system works. If you want an example of how long something like this can last, I suggest you read the following thread and pay special attention to the dates -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097792.0

Thank you Pmalek and Lucius I really appreciate your responses.
 
I will wait. Yes i have seen such cases and it takes ages... wait is difficult but no other option...   
 
Yes shahzadafzal i will wait until hear from someone then wait another month 2 or 3 before I request it to change ban to signature ban.
 
I know all of them are good poeple mprep, Halab, Cyrus and hilariousandco and of course theymos is the best (maybe this can help :p)

No, that's not the way to do it. You need to be talking about how handsome the admins are. Talk about theymos' calves. He loves that. Tell him how stunning he looks in tight shorts. That will get him all worked up.

 
 

 
 
Yes that post is tweet but it has source link.  
 
I don't understand?? please guide me what these quotes really mean??
 
Am I banned because I posted big images in WO thread?
 
Or because I was pressing my luck? I don't know what luck I was pressing... But I know non of this is the reason for my ban.
 
My ban and what I know is reason that I used one ETH Address which was linked to another banned account. (not my alt, already stated in previous posts).

Some are just too dense, you cant fix stupid.

 
Every one of us was a newbie at some time ... so Thank you but no thank you. 
 
atm I'm trying to get my account back. Once I get it I will consult you before posting any thing.

It's hard to get your account back. Don't keep false hope. Also, you are multi posting which is against the forum rules.

Bloodbath and bull market in the crypto space has nothing to do with your account status. Your account has not been unban in last three months and i don't think this will change ever.  
I came to know that your local board experienced a steep decline (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231446.msg60453935#msg60453935l) in their board as you were the most active poster there. Being active is good but to follow the forum rules are even more important.

 
Yeah its hard but not impossible... even impossible says i-m-possible
 

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That's what is killing me.. trust me i was so hyped to take our local board top in the list and have some impression to get separate board but unfortunatley my dream ended very soon. But I still didn't loose home my bitcoin energy is still above $60k area so let see...

Two weeks

Again

Bump

You got hope NoorulHuda2


naim027 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1187984) got unbanned

Wow he must be lucky… or he got big hands… any way congratulations to naim027

But I’m also not loosing any hope yet… my case is also 100% genuine but just need some arming to go through it.

Wow, this is something new for me as I haven't seen anyone who got a permanent ban got unban or at least it was not in my knowledge. So what was the reason he got banned in the first place and due to what reasons hilariousandco unbanned him?

@NoorulHuda2 , you gotta study that case and see if it is related to your case.

Yeah, the hope for her is still alive.

Yeah, he was REAL Genuine all right.

Seriously.  I regret ever supporting him, and honestly I'd much prefer that permabans remain exactly that unless there are extraordinary circumstances--which, in the case of naim027, there really weren't. 

NoorulHuda, I'd say I wish you luck but I'd be lying.  I'm not sure why you haven't gotten the message yet, but if I were you I'd give up your quest to get unbanned.  I think your argument is full of shit and you certainly aren't such an important part of bitcointalk that your account needs to be restored.

How could you say this... I'm not a native English speaker but I have been active in my local community and many seniors know me I have been helping new member of my community too. And that's the reason you won't see much material in other boards.

Anyway still I will request admins please at least review my case and give some input.

Yeah thank you UmerIdrees ye i will try to study his case :)

I think exactly the same as you. And I am surprised by this lenient policy with those who break the rules. It seems to me too socialist or liberal in the American sense, because leftist people tend to think that if you steal, rape or kill is that you are a poor victim of circumstances and that society has failed you, and that those circumstances have forced you to steal, rape or kill. Therefore society has to impose a low penalty, oriented to reintegrate you and release you as soon as possible.

We are seeing something like this on a small scale in the forum regarding plagiarism and bans. And I am surprised, having an ancap in charge. Although no one, including myself, is free of apparent contradictions.

Nothing much to study tbh, each case is evaluated separately and since that unbanning didn't end up well I don't think it will help him much.



Forum policy went from being too strict and banning good members for having one plagiarized sentence or two, to being too lenient and not doing anything for obvious plagiarism and I think some middle ground should be found. For example, giving more signature bans, preferably for longer period of time (not saying that OP deserves the 2nd chance btw).

Yes, probably a middle ground as you propose would be ideal.

That's so true and you’re right, cases are evaluated individually and most certainly depends on the mood of the "admin" too (take it with a pinch of a pinch of salt).

Irrespective of these members what they have been doing (sh*ting) elsewhere on the forum, but I have seen them in my local board and I vouch for them based on those posts.


Do they have alts? or have they been cheating in campaigns? I don't know I'm not advocating for them but I can say I know them (naim027 and NoorulHuda) from our local board since they joined and both of them were posting valuable posts there quite often.  

Happy for naim027 small mistakes intentional or unintentional can be ignored once in a while.

Since you said that you vouch for them, would you agree to get your account banned or red tagged in case NoorulHuda gets caught red-handed again? If you are so sure that he is a legit and honest member who just did one mistake that won't happen again. ;D


naim027's small mistakes? You must have missed this shitshow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416864.0) in which he was exposed for doing much more than plagiarism and will probably end up being banned once again.

What a huge twist after that confession thread. Not 1, but 3 alts...

Vouch for naim027? A guy who has cheated in every possible way?

You can vouch all you want, but it is useless.

Naim027 committed alt abuse, plagiarized repeatedly, evaded and cheated the ban in every possible way (sending PMs, dealing with other matters and farming up alts).

The bad thing is that he is very good at convincing people that he is a good person.

Naim027 is a disgrace to this forum.

Surely the moderators are aware of the history of naim027. And now all his alternative accounts are simply useless, but many are sure that he will not let go of the idea of creating several more. 
As for unlocking the ban, it seems to me that after the story with naim027, they are very careful, as they say, "having burned yourself on milk, you blow on water." 
And I have no doubt that they will be right. Those who are so attached to the forum, without an exact date for the unlocking of the block, will surely create another account for themselves or use a second-old one, as was the case with naim027.

I think you have missed the whole scene in the thread mentioned by @Rikafip above where you can see the accusations against him and sure you wouldn't say that it was small and unintentional mistake of the user from your local board as there are many things he has violated on the forum.So check the thread first man before saying this.

Come on, I already said I don't know what they've been doing anywhere else and why would I support them if they were caught red-handed. I mean in the NoorulHuda case what I know and I believe her since she told us about her brother that he introduced him on the forum, before her banning so and it happened when she tried to join her first  sign. campaign and gave her brother's wallet address.

Rest it's up to the admin if they believe her story too and of course you can argue that tomorrow every other cheater can claim it was his/her brother or sisters account.

NOTE: May be "vouch" is the wrong word I used all I wanted to say is I support their ban appeal. What they will do in future I don't know and can take their responsibility.



Hahahaha... yes I saw it but did not follow, ok he has alts but the reason for his ban was not this and he got unbanned, now let the negative trust do the job.

I'm against the perm ban and still feel it's too harsh, negative trust seems a better punishment for cheaters.




Well again forgive me I accept "vouch" is not the proper word for this, what I meant to say was I'm supporting their ban appeal.

Other things like farming alts or abusing campaigns should be dealt with trust, that's why the trust system was introduced in the first place.

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Edit:


Yes I did now and feel sorry.



Kill me I'm dead.

Amusingly everyone one of them that he used to merit farm the WO was already on my ignore list. :)



Be careful who you vouch for as you are judged by the company you keep.

That is not just a saying, it is a fact.



No, Perm Ban is mandatory for Ban evaders.




No, that is not why the trust system was introduced.


Hmmm, now that I'm thinking about it as you guys like to praise you local boards activity in the rankings and push that as a leading positive of your commitment to the forum maybe you should start a thread on the forum rules in that section as its obvious your members don't read nor comprehend them. These merit farming spammers have been originating from your local board as well and its getting very tiring as you may have noticed from the WO thread which is one of the most tolerant places there are.

Everyone who farms accounts on WO is very clearly visible, and in the case of a beginner, it looks very fake. Today, well-known old-timers have remained in the WO branch, but those newcomers who post pictures, wagging their tails and expecting merit, stand out for their diligence. It is noticed that it is Pakistani newcomers who regularly visit this topic, apparently finding a quick and easy way to climb the ranks.

I agree to all your points and trust me I'm aware and ashamed of this too, yes most of WO newbie sh*t posters coming from my local board but the thing is you can't force anyone here nor you can stop them from doing so. If they are here for merit farming they will find their ways. And thanks to WO "big guns" they always encourage them by feeding them with merits.

Yes naim027 was really a bad judgment on my side too along with hilariousandco if I say so. But as of today user NoorulHuda was not involved in account farming as far as I know (until I'm proven wrong again).


I have pointed this out many times in my local thread and also warned them about their behavior where they copy paste image + some text + source and they think they are doing an amazing job. Here's one example (it’s in my language) just to give you an idea that we have been pointing this out quite often.



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and this strategy is working? Isn't it? If their camping requires them to have x merits must be collected, then WO is an easy place to get some, just copy paste shit from the internet and leave it to WOs.

Maybe it's time to change the rules in WO, since we already have boards that have restrictions in relation to rank (Serious discussion), I think that the minimum requirement for a post in that board should be Member rank, or even better 100 earned merits. As this is certainly not something that will happen, the number of those on my ignore list increases exclusively every time I visit WO.

It will change nothing from my point of view. Also, I have seen some of those posters spammers in that local thread who are members and full members and still flooding the WO with images and Twitter posts. It is because they have got the habit of getting merits from WO thread and this habit won't change even after reaching higher ranks.

The only way to discourage this is not to give any merits to any post which have zero effort and is just a copy paste of Twitter and telegram posts.

I think theymos is generally against newbie jail policy. Maybe it would be better if the WO thread could be configured so that merit functions are disabled completely. Much like signatures are disabled.

 
 
I don't know what others doing on the forum I never asked any one to support me on this... ragarding this user naim027 that's his personal thing.
 
I don't have any alt and i have said it before also will repeat again... that was my first campaing ever and i tried to join since i was new to crypto I ask my brother who introduced me to this forum in the first place.  and instead of creating new wallet he gave me his wallet address for campaing which he used before he got banned.
 
 That is the only reason i can think of for my ban
 
 
 Now for WO yes i have been to WO there quite often but out of my 800+ post nearly 170-180 posts are in WO.  
 
As for as the forum rules are concerned even my self have been helping newcomers and guiding them to follow rules.
Below are two examples from Jan and March 2022.
 
Example 1

Translation: Please go through the rules of the forum.
 
Exmaple 2
 
 

 
Translation: First read all rules and don't make merits your first priority.

Bump

Just saw this now. The thing that gets me the most about the WO merit farmers is that they are missing out on the opportunity to improve their lives through learning about bitcoin; instead they are learning the art of how to suck up to merit sources, or more particularly, the ones they know will give them merits. So nobody actually learns anything of value and we get a lot of contrived, insincere low-effort posts. And so long as WOers keep giving them merits, they'll never stop.

Stuff like this makes me sad for humanity:


Why?

1. Its not their breakfast.
2. Its an exact copy of a Lina Seiche tweet (https://twitter.com/LinaSeiche/status/1585560706589532161), with extra characters between "bitcoin" and the heart emoji because the BTC logo from the original tweet wouldn't paste.
3. They couldn't even bother to link the tweet or spell "from" correctly.
4. The poster has already been caught cheating in bounties with other accounts that have been banned for ban evasion.

I get it, life is hard in some parts of the world, which is exactly why people seeking to financially benefit from the forum should be using it as an educational resource instead of treating it as a merit accumulation game. Regardless, you are more likely to get merits if you can demonstrate original thought inspired by education on relevant topics. With 99% of the farming posts, you're just wasting your time and ours.

So, if the life is hard in some parts of the world, this does not mean that they start spamming this forum and try to manipulate it for their own financial benefits.


It's really strange we see OP bumping this thread and he still thinks that his appeal will be taken care of  ???

I don't think his account will be unban. If it was to be unban, it would have been done months before.

Well I have my reasons to be so optimistic... 
 
1. The reason of ban is still not confirmed, this is just my guess why I was banned 
2. I presented my case and wrote all the evidences
3. There was a honest mistake where I used my brother's ETH address to apply in my first ever campaign (after being on the platform for months)
4. This mistake is my guess why my account might have been was banned.
5. There's no plagiarism case against me.
6. My contribution to forum speicall on my local thread (Pakistan) is clearly prominent. 
7. For my WO posts you can say whatever you want but there I was just post like many others. 
 
 
it's ok yeah it will take time but that's fine... I will keep bumping this thread time to time.

Don't you know how the forum treats brothers, sisters, moms, and dads?
Do you have an example of at least one account when members of the forum believed in these fables?




and so on...

You say you don't know clearly why your account was banned, but what is the reason for writing the story here? You may have violated the forum rules in some way, which is why your account has been banned.

And we are tired of reading the same story of brother and sister account, when for some reason someone is caught in this forum with multiple accounts, we have to read this same story again and again.

Logic to me if you just wants to learn and not want a signature campaign for earnings then why would you bother to appeal you true account already proven wrong and already banned with obvious reasons.
For me it is very doubtful, because basically you can create a new account to study with another Name, even if it's forbidden but you can create it and other people won't know about it.

Merit and rating are benchmarks following signature campaigns.
I highly doubt what you said.

If it was banned for these reasons it likely would have been posted somewhere. I can't find any reported PMs containing your username or any mention in the staff forum so I'm not sure what the ban is for. I don't know what gmjutt6 was banned for either. Theymos would be able to tell you who banned it so that could narrow it down but they might not remember specifics.

Ahh its a relief thank you so much hilariousandco for taking time. If you did not find the reason that means there must be some other reason or might be a mistake (autoban) and I’m very hopeful now…

please Theymos can you check and I’m really hopeful I’m sure my ban is not related to plagiarism or any rule breaking reason and it must be an autoban thing which can be resolved.

Notice the two identical posts posted by gmjutt6.
In the Spanish section and in the Russian local section. Probably his ban was due to plagiarism since the post in the Russian section was deleted, and gmjutt6 himself is not a native speaker of Russian, that is, he used a Google Translate

https://ninjastic.space/post/54845223
https://ninjastic.space/post/54841295
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263716.msg54845210#msg54845210


original source
https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2020/07/how-back-control-crypto


https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=0xf86e7742766909a9CA716e7Ae8De3d83A00a230C
In addition, if you believe in the story about the brother, then you need to unblock everyone who talks about their relatives.

Bump
 

I will never lose my hope.

OP from the first page of this thread, you yourself know and stated it that your ban was due to plagiarism and should known the repercussion that follows such offence, well it's left for the moderator that banned you to consider maybe you deserve giving a second chance or not, also you can still send a message to the appearing email address on your ban notice, sometimes those baned for plagiarism get unbanned if it's a temporary one, but the chances for perma ban is very low but nevertheless i wish you best of luck.

Your story just doesn't make sense. How could you "accidentally" put your brother's ETH address in a bounty application?

It would be slightly more plausible if "your brother" didn't already have a bunch of alt accounts.









And there's probably several more but you get the point.

Finally, there's a lot of rapid transactions between you and "your brother" on other blockchains, including Polygon:



https://polygonscan.com/address/0xf86e7742766909a9ca716e7ae8de3d83a00a230c
https://i.ibb.co/VBFwHNx/image.png

All these txs took place in the span of 17 minutes. Highly unlikely you were coordinating this with somebody else.

So its been over a year since you were banned. Even though you're not supposed to, you could have just made another account and ranked it up somewhat significantly since then. My suspicion is you didn't do this because you already have at least one other account currently active on this forum.

Why in the world would you not assume this just for sake of an argument?? Is it not possible to have a family member active on the same forum???
Did I deny that I didn't use my brother's ETH address? and for the proof I have stated this and said my brother introduced me to this forum this was before this happened.
First of all, my reason for ban is still not clear and this address copying I myself bring it.
Please show me any example where I cheated NoorulHuda or had any other duplicate address other than this you already mention in the post.
Check my post history this was my first application for any signature campaign and since this was my first ever I asked my brother to guide me and I didn't have ERC Wallet so I asked him about this and he said put this address.
That's it this is what happened and I suspected this for my ban.
You can compare the post history for gmjutt6 and my only account NoorulHuda you will not find any similarities I was active in my local thread and in WO for some time.
Anyway, I have said this so many times if the reason of my ban is this then I deserve a chance this is a mistake.
If ban is for any other reason please let me know i am here and I'm liable to answer any allegations.

Since you admitted in the OP that, it's like hard to tell who is who through proof because of anonymity. I don't see why you should expect members to just believe what you say.

We have had so many similar cases in the past of people speaking about their sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, uncles etc

I think the reasons are pretty clear. Perhaps you should be to see the message in your account about your ban.

I saw this coming. Noorul used to spam the WO thread every day with random Bitcoin/Crypto news, spamming the whole thread with his stupid quotes and copied text.
Good riddance. I would expect everyone to abide by the rules and not spam just to earn merits. Provide some quality updates, not quantity. Good luck.

How can you say that he did not make another accounts in between these times especially when he already has so many alts detective already. Meaning he has the habit of having a lot of accounts on the forum.
Also it's not very hard to come up after every month or quarter to write that i am hopeful to get my account back and bump the thread to get the attention.

Anyways, consider it hard luck or whatever, he will not get his account back no matter how hopeful he is. You won't get a second chances for plagiarism or ban evasion.

I can't say that. There's a good chance he owns multiple accounts that are in bounties and/or sig campaigns right now. After re-reading this thread, I'd say there's also a chance he's just pissed that a bunch of his alt accounts were recently exposed and red tagged. Less income from them means more desperation to get this account unbanned.

Please tell me if there is a way to proof if someone don’t have any Alts?
Based on this thread? How? I said it many times, that account does not belong to me. But it’s my brothers account…I know only gmjutt6 and my account is NoorulHuda.

I’m not sure but anyone who’s from my region can confirm my account is a girl’s name “Noor ul Huda”and this account gmjutt6 is a boy’s name (my brother)… I’m a girl. I know it does not matter but for the sake of argument I’m adding this.

There is no way for you or anyone to prove the absence of your alt accounts on this forum, because with all possible tools and understanding blockchain/wallets you can effectively hide among thousands of active members. Even if admins would go check IP addresses, if you and your alleged brother use the same ISP, you can't prove anything except that the two accounts use the same IP address.


Boyfriend, girlfriend, brother, sister, uncle or cousin - all this does not make much sense to you in what you want to prove, because it is not unusual for some members to have a feminine nickname when in fact they are men and vice versa.

I think it is clear he/she is fighting a losing battle when it comes to trying to reprieve their NoorulHuda account. Nothing they say (and no matter which explanations they provide or which stories they concoct) will probably have ban lifted otherwise it would have been done by now.

I do not believe anything the OP says. There is no genuine remorse at plagiarism, it is related to being unable to use the account to earn an income via signature campaigns. They should give up on this banned account be careful not to make the same mistakes with their other farmed accounts otherwise they will be banned too.

I hadn't paid much attention to this thread but after reading it, I see that this from the OP is patently false:


I also see common things that we have seen in other cases, such as trying to give pity or appealing to a "brother." (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395857.msg62233024#msg62233024)

All in all, and this is one thing I have no proof of but a clear suspicion, in the year and a bit that this thread has been going on, I wouldn't be surprised if the OP had a few more alts on the forum, skirting the rules.

The bottom line is that I don't support a lift to the ban, although I guess my support or not doesn't matter anymore. The OP has dug himself into a hole he's not going to be able to get out of.

Yes, this is an irrefutable fact. Judging by the activity of the local section to which the OP belongs, each has ten alternative accounts. I don't understand why the OP is so attached to his account at a time when his brothers are so actively cultivating their accounts in pizza and pumpkin contests, and exchanging merit as if nothing had happened. OP, are you saying you're sitting around waiting for an unblock?

If for a moment just for argument sake, we remove the issue of the local boards and sections of the forum (as to not limit the approach to just one language or locality and instead look at local boards generically), the issue of many members having and operating multiple accounts is a huge problem. It happens in the global boards too.

I doubt the OP is sitting around idle just waiting in the hope his account will be unblocked, he has probably been actively cultivating his other accounts but if he wishes to drag this out posting here appealing the ban then let him waste his time. Eventually the OP or a moderator will lock the thread.

"NoorulHuda" is a ban evader with several possible accounts including: gmjutt6, idris123, aiyan786, heena121, Chemplon, NoorulHuda2 and probably more
 
"NoorulHuda" has been trying to get a ban lifted for plagiarism by expecting moderators to believe what seems to be a concocted story
 
wow amazing JollyGood thank you for using your legendary DT powers at the best  
 
I am not here to justify your red tag but really just because of some allegation you tagged me?  
 
All those posts above allegation with no proof connected to my account "NoorulHuda"... allegations from a random user.
 
These are allegations until proven otherwise... not a single admin or moderator pointed out the reason for my ban... my account is no way connected to any of those accounts... there all if a=b b=c c=d i don't know how from  a to z chain and then  NoorulHuda account is owner of all those accounts.
 
So sad there no proof and your justification for the tag is "possible accounts", i know i can't and I will not try to convince you but my case straight forward I used my brother address and that's all and this is what is suspect which caused the ban or may be my posts on WO (not plagiarism but may be considered spam by some standards). That's all...
 
 
"NoorulHuda" has been trying to get a ban lifted for plagiarism " Really??? plagiarism?? where please show me...  
 
Moderators have not stated the reason for my ban and that's clear in your tag too. You are also confused and not sure why you should tag me "ban evader", "plagiarism "... at least make your mind what you want to tag me for?

It's kind of funny seeing you bumping this thread back to life again for discussion when you literally had zero percent chance of success last time you posted this. Or do you think you can succeed now with your unban request? That is, with all these allegation placed against you for having several alt. & e.t.c, which you are and yet to proof yourself innocent of all allegations place against you by all these reputable forum members.


Are you trying to say you forgot when you wrote this statement given below?

Zero percent chance of success? Since I saw that naim027 and his known alts are allowed to run wild, I believe everything in this regard. It is far from being 0%.

This guy was unbanned after plagiarizing and not banned again after knowing that he ban evaded:

naim027 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1187984)

These are known alts:

Crypt0S0ul (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2851213)

Dic3L0v3r (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3407425)

AnotherAlt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3461867)

If you notice the last of the alts has been pretty active for all the red tags it has.

So seeing this no wonder NoorulHuda insists, it doesn't cost him anything to bump the thread from time to time.

FYI 
apparently = as far as one knows or can see. (https://www.google.com/search?q=apparently&rlz=1C1GCEB_enAE988AE988&oq=apparently&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDwgAEEUYORiDARixAxiABDINCAEQABiDARixAxiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQLhiABNIBBzI2M2owajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&bshm=rime/1)
I said apparently because still I'm not sure why my account got banned only thing I know is that my account is tagged for being linked with another account which belongs to my brother.
So again only the person who banned my account can calrify the reason of my ban.

The reason seems extremely obvious to me, you used the same ETH address (https://ninjastic.space/address/0xf86e7742766909a9CA716e7Ae8De3d83A00a230C) as a banned account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2725176). For the forum's purposes, you are the same person. If you wanted to signify to the world that you were a different person, you would have used a different address.

There is no way to verify the truthfulness of your story. My advice is to get over it and move on.

At the end of the day the banned account has some activity therefore if it were to be allowed to function again, it could be utilised for monetary purposes such as asking for loans or for joining signature campaigns. It is probably that reason the OP keeps trying from time to time.

naim027 and his known alt-accounts have either been posting or simply logging in for activity sake. There are that many, you forgot to add the John Abraham (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2589230) account.  

The one that seems the most active is AnotherAlt. That account was used a couple of months ago in this thread to complain about a website he was gambling at: Crashino.com Scam $80 winnings were not paid. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463133.0) but having said do you remember when naim027 mentioned he was religious and gave hypocritical and contradicting statements here in the Mahdirakib Insight (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456344) thread he used to to defend himself but further exposed his failing.

It seems he claimed to have religious and moral sentiments which were against gambling yet works with a campaign manager on updating spreadsheets who promotes casino signatures (as well as working on the updated casinocritique.com (https://www.casinocritique.com/) website). Hypocrisy at staggering levels.

I am not stating the NoorulHuda issue is on the same level as naim027 but after seeing what that account is doing others will probably try to do the same.

That's the reason I don't know what should show or post to prove that account was no mine but was my brother's accounts.
Below post from 5 April 2022, and my account was banned on 24 April 2022.
This post is in Urdu where I talking about my brother who introduced me to bitcoin and this forum. Some can confirm this translation if you think I'm wrong here.
Urdu: "Mjy mere bhai n btaya",  English: My brother told me
This is a proof if someone want to believe, my brother was already here on bitcointalk and he introduced me too but I never knew that he got banned or whatever was he doing or posting, should not linked to me.
Yes I'm aware of this naim027, but my case not at all same or even similar to his case, me I'm still waiting for the actual reason of my ban.

The price of BTC is up, looks who's back.


There's nothing you can show, which is why I suggested you forget about it and move on.


This is not a proof in any universe.


He didn't link to you -- you linked to him.


Wait no further: you were banned because you used the ETH address of a banned user.

It is so easy to create your own address, why would you possibly use another person's address unless you are that person? You know what, don't answer that. There is no good reason, only a bunch of poor and unlikely ones.

hahaha spot on this has cracked me up... nutildah is right; now in fact your brother should come forward and blame you of defaming him more and more... I mean, he was banned and he has accepted his fat and moved on (to new accounts, perhaps) why not you...?

I know NoorulHuda is a beautiful name but come on,  if the admins aren't giving you attention, how long you gonna fight and how will you prove that this account is not your brother's account? Just think... like nutildah said don't answer just think.

Well, if you claim it was not your ETH address why are you bumping this thread from to time instead of writing directly to theymos to put your side of the story forward? Surely he can tell you why you have been banned. It will be very difficult for any member here to have any sympathy with you because over the years we have seen far too many instances where brothers, sisters, uncles and aunties along with mothers, fathers, cousins and friends have been cited to provide cover for implausible outcomes.

You should stop bumping this thread as you pleading ignorance or will not get you answers. Do not post anything now, give up on the account and focus on the other ones you are operating that have not yet been .

Well thank you for suggestions yes i was thinking to leave bitcointalk... but still I'm getting notifications on Telegram since my local community is still discussing me... the work I did there will be remembered.
and also my efforts and time i put in this account I will never forget... i will keep fighting for my right.
Just for reference I sent one PM to theymos also, I'm not sure if he can receive my message since my account is Newbie and he must be getting lots of messages daily.

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This thing I knew since started this ban appeal thread hate and taunting comments you receive from members are enough to make you crazy... but I will ignore those and I'm addressing moderators and admins only... I know i'm never geting any sympathy other members and it clear to me convincing you guys is over and i accepted.
But since admins have access ip logs and other things they can see what I'm trying to prove... that other account which is linked with me is not mine.
this was also clarified by hilariousandco, so i think now only admins Theymos or Cyrus can help on this.

You don't have to bump this ban appeal thread.

Follow the guide from Cyrus for second chance (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477510.msg63309635#msg63309635) in 2023 greeting holidays and get your second chance.

Did you read requirements in that guide?
I hope you follow this simple guide to apply too.

There's an overwhelming probability that they are bumping it because they were already logged in to the forum under an alt account and saw that thread. The bump occurred within 6 hours of the creation of that thread.


I don't believe this for one second. You are probably discussing yourself through different alt accounts.


Saying this only proves that you see "this account" as nothing more than a commodity. Its not your personality, its not your identity, its just one account of what is likely many.


You have no rights here, only privileges.

Lol. This crack me up  ;D

You mean?

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/12/EzJ4z.jpeg

Seriously i have been seeing this guy bumping his ban appeal thread on a consistent basis for more than a year now but of no use. People appeal, get no positive response and never come back, but not this guy.
Anyways, to his luck, Cyrus announced the second chance (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477510.msg63309635#msg63309635), which many of the banned ones would be awaiting for sure.

If he is unable to satisfy the mods on this second chance occasion, then believe me he will never get unban. For him, this is not a second chance, but a last chance to get him unban.  ;)

Maybe the owner of the farmed accounts is trying to keep up the charade of proclaiming their innocence because they hope eventually one of the admins will get bored of reading their constant crocodile tears. He should stop bumping this thread and make an appeal in that second chance thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477510.0) as a last chance saloon.

If he fails in the second chance thread, he should lock this thread and give up.

Well, it doesn't cost him anything to bump and since he probably has more accounts on bitcointalk and is active daily, why not bumping the appeal thread from time to time? Its those whose only account gets banned are the ones that lose hope fast.


Considering one of the requirements to get unbanned is to post one very good constructive post, I don't think that thread will help him much.

Even if he managed to get the account back there would be an interim period of a signature ban therefore to some extent it would defeat the object of getting the ban lifted. Having said that, it is a vital first step because the end goal would be of-course to join a signature campaign.

The irony as far the length of time he has waited to get his ban lifted (if it were to happen), is that after mixers themselves get banned the unbanned account would probably never be accepted in to any campaign by any decent manager.

The only campaign manager that was allowing members with red trust join his campaigns on an excessive basis will no longer have the luxury of filling slots with alt-accounts and spammers with mixers therefore the OP could have gone through all this fake apology for literally no benefit.

;D