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We've seen a lot of new casinos having issues with how to start promoting their project, they just come here to post their thread and that's it,  we have seen members recommending casino admin or representative get a copper account and hire a designer to design their thread this happens so many times.

Do You Think New Casino Should Partnered With Bounty Managers To Gain the Trust of the community and start on the right foot
take the case of Bitlucy where bounty manager Royse777 is the one opening and managing the thread, the thread is just perfect and everything on the casino home page is well placed.

Do you think it's a big advantage for the new casino that they have a bounty manager to be part of the team, we have a good lineup of reputable managers here.

I do think that it's a necessity towards the "outlook" of the business itself because if they are new and they want to be known in the community, let's say here in Bitcointalk, the way they can do that is through someone that is a part of the trustworthy people. And it's up to the bounty managers to discuss whether they want to represent it or not.

It's always going to be an advantage in BTCT that someone could represent you on your behalf because they are the ones who know the workarounds of the forum and how they can market their company effectively.

I agree it's easy to trust if they have big names like Hhampuz or Yahoo on the team but also you need to do research and verify because there is no perfect casino, the bounty managers can only advise and suggest the best way to proceed on how to establish the reputation it's still up to the owner, and bounty managers will not think twice to leave the project if they are betraying the trust of the community.

although it would be great for new casinos to hire reputable members to manage their ANN thread or their signature campaign(if they ever plan to). but I think it would be a bad idea to start trusting the casino solely on that. there have been cases where a new casino hired a reputable member but the casino ended up scamming its gambler/s

Why should they partner with campaign manager, their work is different and no partnership needed unless, only what Casinos and other gambling sites do is to dialogue with trusted campaign managers, pay them and tell them to do their work. It is as simple as that. If the campaign is successful and continuous, that is enough to know that the gambling site is not created to scam but want to provide quality services to people and in the process the gambling site should be growing.

Trust is given by players because of the actual experience in the casino not because of the casino partnered with trusted bounty manager.
Partnered with trusted bounty manager is a good start but it has nothing to do with trust or reputation.
The same applies to signature campaign or forum ads, it will not bring good reputation to the casino instantly.
The process and how the casino serve the players is the most important thing to do if a casino want to gain good reputation.

No need, every casino gambling site is not supposed to have a manager, its not a major factor in profit, trust and so on for them.

Managers, who are only hired to manage campaigns, do not have to, be their team or partners.

In my opinion, every casino gambling site has the right and can advertise their site here, provided that they comply with the rules in this forum, copper members aim so that they can display as many pictures as possible about their site, if they are still beginners.
About trust, it can't guarantee their casino site is good or bad, many managers with good trust can be damaged because of the gambling site itself, for example this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30541, is there any guarantee for trust, no, it's.

I think that as long as the online gambling casino is being promoted by someone who is holding funds and is well trusted in our community then they are playing on the safe side. You don't need a bounty managers as much as you need someone to hold funds. Escrow, basically.

 However we have had bad bounty managers in the past, those who did not pay out or pretended to never even have received the funds. Those kinds of bounty managers were quickly weeded out though.

As long as someone is performing escrow duties and the payment is in a listed cryptocurrency, preferably Bitcoin, then I do not see a downside. If you are worried then stay away from new casinos or casinos with a bad reputation. Especially one with scam accusations, stay away from those.

I don't think it makes much of a difference who the bounty campaign manager is. If he clearly fulfills the conditions of the campaign and the casino pays the participants the promised rewards without any problems, then this inspires respect and trust. And at least interest in a new project. If I'm not mistaken, there were cases when a member of the casino team directly acted as a bounty manager here and there were no problems with trust.

there's nothing wrong with this, I also visited the bitlucy thread and thought that the gambling site would be big and successful. indeed there have been many gambling sites in the past that have been disappointing but with royse777's reputation, I'm pretty sure bitlucy will be a huge success in this forum.

People who have worked their way up to the position of trust for managing bounty and campaigns is usually one of the best candidates on the forum to advertise anything. Naturally any new project will seek out the most experienced and competent people if they have a job they want done. It does make it hard for anyone new to break into the market, especially because of the high level of trust required in order to look after what is often large sums of money. The most successful campaign managers are likely to be those who have been here a long time, which may also mean that they are independently wealthy from getting into Bitcoin in the early years and they have left incentive to run away with any funds.

I would say that its really a big advantage for a newly open casino to hire a reputable manager that will advertise and promote their project, especially if you want to be more known in the forum and attract more players. Although its not necessary but it will always be a big help to make a new casino be known to everyone because of a good promotion from a well trusted bounty manager. Once the promotion is done, expect that it will gain some positive results that will create a hit for a newly launched casino.

This could be a big risk for the part of the manager since the site can be good at first but it can also turn into a scam site later on, this is a good assurance for bounty hunters but still not a good assurance for the gamblers. Partnering with the best manager here doesn’t guarantee any return, you must still gamble based on how you analyze that new site.

The risk are the reason why most of the managers don’t want to be part of the team, yes they can manage the bounty but not as a part of the team since this can really ruin their reputation and if the players got a problem on that site, that partnered manager will be the one to blame for. This is actually my first time to see a manager that are going to be part of the team, he’s confident about that site and that’s a good one for every gamblers who wants to try that new site, let’s just hope that Royse777 did a great decision regarding that partnership.

Its still better to have a representative that works closely with the team owner which where we can forward our complains if ever and of course we can run after them so either a representative from the team or a reputable manager here doesn't matter, as long the communication with the site is great that can work. If the manager accept the offer then it could be a great exposure for the site but then again, there's no guarantee that you can still make money with them just because of having a good manager.

Of course, it all depends on the casino itself. I think most casinos build their teams much earlier. So representing the casino on Bitcointalk should be the responsibility of the person who is responsible for marketing in the team. If the casino has the money to hire one more person, then why not?

In my opinion, this will add the positive vibe of the gambling platform itself. I am sure that every trusted and reputable Boubty Managers have analyzed the platform carefully to avoid such scam (although it's not 100℅).
At least, if they are working with those kinds of BM, they have also spread any promotions, members here will be more interested to join and try the platform. but ensure that the platform is also using escrow to ensure the community.
but aside from that, it should be wise and smart enoguh also that we personally also need to do our own research to ensure that our choice of the platform is not wrong.

The influence of signature campaigns can be very effective in spreading awareness about the gaming platform, especially when they are managed by a respected campaign manager. Also, other types of competitions, such as art contests, are effective at raising awareness as well. Also, other types of competitions, such as art contests or service review contests are effective at raising awareness as well. We all know about some gambling platforms that have developed rapidly as a result of excellent marketing on the bitcointalk forum. This is what is referred to as a snowball effect in which it only takes one influential vote or post to trigger a chain reaction of momentum. I think this type of a community engagement is very important.

For a short-term effect, cooperation with managers who have a good reputation and a long history of work is certainly positive. But if the project hires an unknown manager (or some team member works instead of him) and at the same time all obligations are met on time, then for subsequent participants there is no difference who the manager is, since the work is established and carried out according to plan.

For many Bitcointalk users, trust system is very important, so in my opinion hiring experienced users by casinos can have a positive effect. For a long time now, projects have hired bounty managers to create ANN threads in the Altcoin section. I don't see a problem for casinos to start doing this here.

It's their choice but I don't think that it should be like that. Reputation starts from the casino itself and if a reputable manager comes by to partner with them, he's going to be involved with it and just be brought up due to the manager's reputation. But that's a good start if they are willing to partner with a reputable manager from the forum and that's part of their strategy and hopefully, they'll carry that on as they operate. Well, as they say, every business has their own strategy to make with.

To tie hands with bounty managers is really good if the respective platform have got its own tokens. So that through a single promotion it is possible to promote the gambling casino along with the token. There are very few number of gambling based tokens available, and those too doesn't have a good growth in comparison to the other crypto investments.

Nope, I remember there's one casino that teamed up with a reputable campaign manager then it got stopped when issues came up with their gambling site. It might be a good first impression for the casino as they're willing to cooperate with reputable members but any casino still needs time to build its own reputation so it still comes down to the way they manage their site.  

It all boils down to the casino. Whether the casino being promoted is handled by an unknown manager or a popular manager or not even promoted on Bitcointalk at all, it could very well succeed. Casino players have certain standards. They want to have an excellent experience with the platform. For as long as their expectations and standards are met, I don't think it would fail. But, of course, the casino will have to get the attention of players. And it could be achieved in so many ways.

It all depends on the skill of the person responsible for marketing in a given casino. If this person knows Bitcointalk (and if is involved in marketing in a cryptocurrency casino, then should), knows how to navigate here and can take advantage of promotional opportunities, it does not matter whether will be using a high-ranked account or one created for the casino. Responsibility and professionalism should come first, not whether someone has a high ranked account.

Its up to what the team and the bounty manager can decide. But it would help them gain trust indeed after all having a good reputation in the forum will also convince the users to play in the casino.  Bounty managers who manages the casino's campaign always gain trust too.

But would it also affect the bounty manager's trust if the casino suddenly scam users or not pay the campaign participants?


So its like hiring a marketing staff. The bounty manager will have to also answer inquiries regarding the casino.

Marketing for a casino is not just about controlling Bitcointalk. Casino cannot promote only on this forum. Whether the bounty manager will be able to handle the duties that the casino will require from him depends on his experience in marketing also outside the forum. If there are bounty managers who can do it, then of course I have nothing against.

I would say that it's part of the strategy for a casino to hire someone with reputation in the beginning to gain somewhat the 'trust' of the community if we see that it is being managed by a individual who we believed.

The problem is what if the casino itself who run the campaign suddenly scams someone? What is the better way to handle it? We've seen campaign managers having a disclaimer and then distant themselves from the project itself and they being a victim as well. Still no guarantee that the new casino will not run from us despite hiring a good person for promotion.

Of course, a good reputation in each community improves the image of each project, so a trusted member is definitely a great support for a new casino.
However, I am affraid that scam casinos could start taking advantage of this. After all, the bounty manager cannot know in advance what the casino's intentions are. Bounty manager just can not check it.

Would a new casino benefit from the services of some of the best managers in this forum? Of course, but it is their decision to take, maybe their budget is limited and they cannot afford their services or maybe they just want to do that job at the beginning and see if they can do it themselves and they could decide to hire a professional in the case they find out it was too much work for them to take, also we must remember that managers with a good reputation do not take any job that is offered to them, they also evaluate the casino as they are putting their reputation at stake each time they decide to take a new project.

Precisely in those threads that you comment I have recommended them to spend the money if they want the casino to be successful. They are not only bounty managers as you say or signature campaigns, they can also buy advertising on the forum and giveaways to advertise. Crypto casinos move a lot of money but they are in a very competitive market. Anyone who wants to launch a new casino better think about an initial investment in advertising, otherwise I see it unlikely to succeed.

Will a bounty manager want to be tied up to a single casino promotion?
Getting a contract dedicated only to one project may not benefit the bounty manager, he'd be limited to this single project unlike being employed only as campaign manager, they can manage several of it as long as they are reputable and trusted.  Since the casino and will deposit funds to the escrow, its enough that they both have agreed and can both trust each other.

That's almost automatic!
When you open a casino and starting from scratch you would always want to partner with reputable people especially for advertising campaign.
However, it's not gonna be easy hiring these reputable managers. It's not just about money, but It's about the quality of the casino and it's legitimacy. Once a reputable manager manage that certain casino , that means it is legit and unlikely to be a fraud casino.

Partnering with bounty manager especially those who are well trusted and experienced is an advantage for the new casino but casino is free to decide. If they feel that they can do it themselves, they can do it without bounty manager. It is not something that should be considered as a must but without a doubt, partnered with bounty manager will give them better exposure and better management because of the experiences of the bounty manager.

When a reputable manager want to promote a project, it give a good impression since the project may likely not turned become scam since he's risking his trustworthiness. But, as long as you're not the project owner, scam is inevitable and you'll need to think what your next move to handle that. Personally I wouldn't really trust the project, even it's handled by trusted manager. If we talking about the trusted manager manage a campaign, then I would trust the campaign.

You're right, the reputational-risk will always rest on the shoulders of the bounty manager, not the new casino. But from the viewpoint of the new casino, who merely wants to lift their own reputation and build on it, I believe a good reputation-by-proxy through the bounty manager is a good path for their business. Plus those bounty managers are smart. They know which new services will have a good probability of scamming, or not scamming.

That's a good question. But it seems to me that a bounty manager doesn't have much impact on the reputation of a new casino, unless of course he is part of the team. But anyone can run into a scam, even if the bounty is run by a good manager. But it seems to me that a bounty does not affect the reputation. Advertising through famous people or companies can have a much bigger impact.

It is not necessary to hire bounty managers to introduce their casino site. If the casino site really has a solid team and can be trusted, then the team doesn't need to do that but he can hire bounty managers or managers to manage the casino's signature campaign.

If the casino does not run well in the end, it will affect the bounty managers, especially if the bounty managers are not part of the core team of the project. Everything will go back to the team from the new casino, but what is clear, hiring bounty managers to introduce the casino will require an allocation of funds to pay the bounty managers.

Trust is not built simply by ads or promotion in just a short period of time, but it is built through a long term process. And for a new casino to win the player's trust, there should be legitimacy in the first place, and once it is proven, i think with good customer service, everything good will follow. It must be that a new casino should also build his own reputation too, and for that to retain, the casino should never create any means of dishonesty like scamming because that will totally ruin its own reputation.

It's good that there is added value if partnering with several managers in this forum, take the example of Hhampuz who takes a lot of part of the casino as marketing in the forum and it has an impact on the reputation of the casino.
The new casino is not only partnered with my bounty manager with others, it is also needed so that it is wider about the casino promotion because in my opinion the forum is not just this but a lot, with a really long journey of course it will definitely produce a good reputation, especially in manager bitcointalk partnering well-known or professional in dealing with this.

I would strongly agree with your statement mate, trust cannot be easily built by simply using ads or promotion, its a long term process, legitimacy and reputation should be possessed by a new casino because this could be a great help for a business to attract more and loyal customers. I think partnering of new casino to bounty managers is a great help to promote their business too however the reputation, legitimacy and the good service of the new business should come first, this partnership will be a bonus points to them if they are a good business establishment.

Ofcourse it is.
Who would you rather trust ?
Someone you have no idea about initially and someone who has been in the community for a long period of time. This does not only win the trust of people but at the same time it would help for the casino to know the platform better as well since when they start usually it's not really *know-it-all* situation, very often people have to get help for the right advertising.
Plus the managers are equally important as the people who design their whole ANN page as well since that's where they are going to get the customers and their opinions as well. How they handle it fully is a whole different thing, sometimes it would be a disaster if not taken care of in every way and you have to ofc plan everything as well.

well in the last few weeks we had some new casinos that went scam in a few days and another one in a few weeks, this is a big red flag and it has become dangerous to create an account in new casinos and to make matters worse even when the casino is not a scam the casino representative here on the forum most of the time it has been guys who are not very active here on the forum, this makes it difficult when there is a scam accusation because even if you leave negative feedback on the casino representative's account as he doesn't get online every day they take a long time to respond the accusations and consequently also took a long time to resolve the customer's problems


I believe this is a double-edged sword, if the new casino partners with a reputable manager and then the new casino turns out to be a scam then the reputable manager is putting himself in a very unpleasant situation.

Partnering is important for new casinos that are trying to improve, one of which is a good reputation, it must be with someone who is competent in their field, it is also important to remember that people with good reputations are very smart in analyzing a casino because these people are very intelligent. indeed the future no one knows we all still have to play it safe with high vigilance, and return to gamblers like us.

hence, let us put it this way that partnering to a reputable BM or CM here is not really a must. but it would help in creating a positive atmosphere in the beginning while building their image in the community. it should still be the casino itself that will do the work on how to really gain the trust from the players. how they are treating the players and how do they resolve issues will still be the most important aspects of their business.

It is a big advantage to them. Most of the users here are already familiar with the managers. They know who is trusted and who is not. When they see a trusted manager, managing the ANN thread of a new gambling site, they will then easily gain confidence and won't hesitate to gamble on that new site.

Not only that but seeing a good looking ANN thread can give another plus point. We will think that casino is too serious in this business because they exert an effort and money. Many new sites underestimate the introduction part. It's actually very important because if you presented badly, people won't give you another chance to visit your site. You will miss the opportunity.

without a good marketing plan it will be difficult for new gambling sites to compete with old and trusted ones, just look at every gambling site handled by hhampuz and yahoo will definitely be a big success. Marketing tricks like this have proven to be effective and worth trying for new gambling sites that want to compete in the market.

Did you read the caution attached to the footer of the signature that was just launched? He clearly stated it that you should do more details research before joining a project, that's what all projects managers do. Just because a most reputable member in this community partner with a company doesn't guarantee the success of the project and how you use the platform, it has happened here in the past and some reputation scam threads I have gone through on how some companies that all started well ended up in the mood.
My advice, playing in new casinos can be inviting especially the new offer and bonuses that they do give but place a caution on your money, deposit the little you can play at time and increase as their reputation grow with years.

In the end, it’s just marketing! Casinos need to enter into different types of marketing, it's how they gain visibility and popularity! On this forum trust rating is important, for some other people it's important Drake who gambles millions... each casino has its own strategy on how to reach the target group!
In this case, the target group is the members of this forum! For sure here the trust rating has a big role and this cooperation between one reputable member and the casino makes a lot of sense! At least for me!

Trust is an important part, but ultimately it comes back to the bankroll of the person who is funding the show. Just like you say - things such as a well designed platform, advertising, proper staffing levels, security, licensing, the ability to accept losses on bad days and all sorts of other costs are not cheap. Gone are the days where you could pull together a site quickly as a skilled programmer, because if you ever get success in this field at the very least you might get DDOS'd for ransom and run out of money quickly. It requires a huge upfront commitment that is simply out of reach for most people and that is what really buys trust - longevity of the owners bank account.

As far as I understand you are writing about the fact that everyone should rely more on their own research than, for example, someone else's reputation on the forum.
And I totally agree. The truth is that even the most experienced manager and the most trusted Bitcointalk user cannot check the intentions of the casino owner. It can happen that a trusted member works for a casino and gets cheated together with the users. We can't blame him then, only ourselves for not being careful enough.

Apparently, that is how the promotion works. Having the use of trusted and known BM give influences the mind of gamblers and think this site can be trusted the same thing we thought about the manager who runs the campaign. Then we ask why? For sure the manager assesses the project first before he carries the responsibility of bringing it to the public that by chance it will fail or it turns into a scam, which certainly, ruins his reputation as well.

I'd say there's always a pros and cons on it, it isn't just instant reputation from the casino itself since they are just still testing the waters here. It will take time since you're just still planting the seed and you can't eat the fruit yet. The disadvantage is at the manager or people that may trust it if the casino turns out to be scam then rugged.

Yeah, it's part of the promotion that they're paying.

The reputation of the BM is what they've paid for and as a foundation to get into the market, they've got someone who's going to do it for them. But reputable managers won't just accept a project if they see its worth and if it isn't worth it.

If they see something that is not part of their standards, they'll decline it.

Its already understandable that they would really be having preferences or criterias before they would accept any projects whether it would pass their standards or not.Popular BM's does really give that
kind of impact in terms of recognition of a certain project but to mind off that this isnt really that a guarantee that your casino or service would really succeed into this market.
All thing matters on the things that been offered or the things been done by the rest of the team but somewhat its not really bad if you do consider on spending or have some budget in
terms of promotions and exposure.

I think that yes, when a site is managed by a recognized campaign manager it gives much more seriousness and trust, at least for me it is, because the campaign manager has the experience to determine if the project, casino or bookmaker is reliable. or not, of course there is the possibility that it could be wrong at a certain moment because we are human and we have the right to make mistakes, but the possibility is very small. If a new site decides to generate any type of marketing campaign or signatures through a reputable and accepted campaign manager, it is not only guaranteeing success for the site, it is opening doors to punters and players who place bets with very large sums of money.

Indeed, good marketing should also be one of the priority of the new gambling site and having a partnership with the trusted user here or manager is also a good decision. Now, let’s see if more new site will do the same thing, this forum has very effective on making a new site successful so I can see a good site if its being managed by the good manager.

new casinos do not have to collaborate with bounty managers to increase the level of trust, but the reality on the ground is that collaborating with bounty managers who have an impact and a good reputation is the best trick to make a gambling site famous and trusted

@Op, you must already know how good Royse's reputation is on this forum, so bitlucy did a marketing trick I can say perfect

Not necessary overall but it's a good choice and highly recommended.

But for me, should be just for the campaign purposes and not as a direct partnership as when it comes to an unexpected worst event, the name of the campaign manager involved will also be in jeopardy. And besides, just referring to the status of the campaign here in the forum, even if they don't hire or be associated with a campaign manager, there still lots of users who will participate in their campaign to promote the brand name as there's money for it. They just need to be honest throughout and payments should be sent on time or easily, just escrowed.

Although, I just hope these new sites won't use the reputation of those campaign managers to plan on their "fishy" attempt to lure users on the site.

There will be certainly an edge and a bias once you see an online gambling platform partnering with bounty/campaign managers here in the forum.

It somehow says a lot of an online casino partners with someone here. They have the necessary funds and they allocated it precisely to further boost their reputation across the forum. If I saw an online casino being affiliated with a bounty manager here, it will somehow give me the impression that such casino is trustworthy and genuine- but these are all just the INITIAL impression.

Despite having a partner, what matters are actual feedback from players who experienced using the services of the said online casino. If lack the online casino essentials (e.g. customer service, payouts, etc.), then they are bound to fail at some point.

Just look at these signature campaigns all over the place and you will know that participating with them is a great impact to your casino. And if someone don't want to be part of it they always have a choice but it might take long for them to get noticed since a lot of gambling platforms and casino are competing nowadays.

You have to advance your marketing strategy so that you won't be left out and imagine how much it cost if you do it on your own compared to partnering with the reputable bounty manager.

If there is an effect to new casinos by whoever managers they are hiring in promoting their sites, it will be very limited. There might be a few who would want to try it out because it is a new casino that is being promoted in bitcointalk under a respected manager but it will be only up to that.

Without a great experience, nobody would stick to that new casino. There's probably no gambler who remains playing in a certain casino simply because it has a signature campaign in the forum by a respected manager.

So many cases of this where new casino eventually shutdown because the casino offers nothing new but just dice, lottery ans slot with same interface to other trusted casino already. When promoted by a trusted bounty manager, it could spike users for awhile. But because of the competition in crypto casino, its a lot harder now. The owner will really have to have a deep pocket to succeed. 

Its possible that casino suddenly scam by shutting down the operation without notice once they are not profiting which could ruin the reputation of the bounty manager enable to pay the participants.

The competition among casinos is not based on who managed their promotions in a certain forum. It is always about casino features and services. So whether the fact that a new casino is having a signature campaign in this forum which is managed by a trusted manager will cause a spike or not, such effect will be insignificant to the general success or failure of the casino. So casino owners should adopt a wider and deeper view on how to make their business successful.

For gaining trust, it doesn't have to be the case. We've also seen gambling platforms that started with a signature campaign managed by a reputable manager but still ended up scamming. Casino name is on the tip of my tongue.

For starting on the right foot, absolutely. Competition among casinos today is tough and a platform will likely get ahead of the pack if they get someone who knows how to get them news users.

It's not a necessity, but it is something that can easily build up their reputation rather quickly. But again, if the casino themselves offered quality services, then even by hiring well-known bounty managers or having them manage it themselves, they'd still be able to attract customers for their casinos. A lot of people here always check out people who post their casinos in the gambling section so it isn't that hard to actually tell them that your casino is existing. Making them remember would be the hard part.

And additionally, hiring bounty managers just simplifies the things they need to do, thereby reducing the amount of time they have to invest since they can just leave it up to the manager. If they know their stuff, then I'm pretty sure they'd be able to handle their own ann threads.

With or without bounty managers, new casinos still have to be able to gain the trust of people because it is something that cannot be obtained easily and must be done alone. In this case, maybe the bounty manager can help introduce the casino. However, a representative from the casino should still be there and be involved in the discussion because the bounty manager may not necessarily know all the casino's plans. Even if the bounty manager eventually joins the casino as a representative, it would be better if someone could attend and help explain and help the bounty manager. But it all depends on the casino and the bounty manager and if they think that the presence of the bounty manager is enough, then that's okay.

I think it's not necessary, but it would certainly help. I don't know the exact numbers for the amount of new players that bounty campaigns pull, but for sure it is something positive because a lot of casinos do that. It increases exposure and help promote the brand easier across the forum and it's just smooth sailing from there.

Ultimately it is still within the discretion of the casino if they want to promote the brand or not with the help of a bounty manager. But with a lot of casinos doing bounties and creating signature campaigns, perhaps it's a no-brainer to do what others do, especially if it's proven effective.

I am sure that a manager with a good reputation can greatly increase the popularity of the new casino with his services, but it seems to me that now not every well-known manager will take such a job because in case of fraud he may lose his reputation. Of course, you can use the scheme in which the manager gets to his account for the full implementation of his work, but I'm not sure that every new casino is able to meet these conditions.

I think Royse have direct contact or part of the team who owns that gambling site (Not sure) but about partnership with bounty managers to gain trust won't guarantee that the gambling site would gain trust and reputation since the managers would stop involving or promoting the gambling site if it turns out that it would be a scam. So partnership with reputable bounty manager is good idea but won't guarantee that your gambling site would immediately build trust with the players and gamblers.

No, because campaign managers is just handling the bounty campaigns and how does the casino reputation be included on that? Casino is the only one can work with their reputation and campaign managers cannot do with it if they do good and provide outstanding service to their costumers then by that they can earn good reputation. Maybe on marketing perspective it can contribute a little bit since many can assure to receive what they are expecting for hiring a reputable campaign managers.

Partnering with a trusted bounty manager will give them more visibility if they run the signature campaign for a couple of weeks as a bare minimum like many new entry casinos do here from time to time.The problem though is that the trust is never gained because of this but because of running an honest business,the bounty manager can't be held responsible for if this casino after a couple of months running the signature campaign cheats for example and do not pay a whale who has won the jackpot.

Well, it has an advantage because you have someone that can rely on when it comes to managing your sig campaign that can also attend to concerns of gamblers since he's also part of the team. But its not really necessary because many successful casinos here are able to maintain a good reputation and still competitive to other casinos even without partnership with a bounty managers. I think it depends how the casino team will manage their business to become successful with or without a running campaign.

Yes it has really an advantage knowing that there are scam campaign managers which can possibly run the whole budget allocated on the campaign. So acquiring quality reputable managers will be good since it can gain trust to its participants and also maybe to the people who supports the manager.

Also the trust will always depends on how the performance provide by the casino since if they fail especially on support side which is more important upon building a business for sure the trust score they get is low.

It's a good boost to your project if you managed to partner with good managers but gaining trust through manager? I don't think that would work, even though they are partnered with good manager doesn't mean they can be trusted since managers only good at promoting projects.

If you're pertaining about a signature campaign for a new casino then yes, partnering with trusted managers would be an advantage. Nowadays, gaining trust is quite hard because people want to get rid of scam sites and projects as much as possible so putting up a casino site with the help of trusted managers will surely boost the reputation of a site. Being promoted especially on this forum has a huge point.

We notice that this is the trend in the last two years that many gambling sites have existed on the forum to run adverts for their business through signature campaign by highering campaign managers from the top reputed members of the forum. Before this time, the face of the campaign was on ico coins at least around 2017 when I newly joined this forum. At that time, most of the campaigns then where on coin listing and awareness around it and they also had the bounty side where you are promised to get some tokens at the end of the bounty timeframe (if they delivered or not is a talk for another time). All these bounty and campaign where organized by top members here , and I think majority of the bounty didn't succeed, they were scam mostly and I think that also affected the signature campaign side at that time because the ico business started collapsing and many signature campaign couldn't continue because they were lacking funds and not meeting up on sale basically because they were not really genuine and couldn't get trust from the public. I think at that season, the forum was almost empty of signature campaigns, just very few existed.

Therefore, my point to your question is that IMO from my explanation and background above, gradually casino business started having a place in the forum. I don't believe that it is the highering of the campaign managers from the forum as partners is the reason for the positive growth (because, the same campaign managers were managing the ico bounties and signature campaigns) but that the product is genuine. The casinos are mainly genuine and giving free opportunity for luck on people and players in their platform and without clear signs to scam people and even when they are alleged for being scammed, it is seriously examined and the casino management is ready for explanation and face the consequences. Because they are genuine with the business of exchange of service for money. Sometimes some casinos do bonus and contest for people. This is purely the casinos being ready to provide services, product and get patronage. The campaign managers are helping to get the work done on their product.

I don't think they can't be part of the team if they don't have any skills that they can provide to the gambling site but with partnering with them through promotions, sure. Of course there's an advantage to the gambling site since known managers and reputable managers make sure that the site is safe and reliable and if not their reputation is on the line.

ya.ya.yo!

Usually, what I meet when I see a new casino with a common goal is they will open a registration bonus first to attract gamblers and try to experience some of the games available at the casino, after that in this forum the flow is almost the same as doing the welcome bonus rotation and then planning to create a signature campaign. Many casinos have earned trust very quickly and have proven effective in running regular promotions.

Search engines (such as Google) collect information from all over the Internet. 

In doing so, they rank this information.  Information published on different sites has different values.  Information posted on large topic forums tends to have more value and get higher ratings. 

Marketers take this fact into account in their work. 

Therefore, it is profitable for online casinos to advertise themselves on various thematic forums (including the legendary Bitcointalk forum). 

Cooperation with a reputable manager is also a necessary element of an advertising campaign on the Bitcointalk forum.  This will allow the most successful and efficient organization of the entire process.

If you ask whether a new casino should partner with a bounty manager to gain trust, I personally think it doesn't really matter whether they partner or not, but if they partner with a trusted bounty maybe people's confidence will increase in the new casino, because now most people are less interested with a newly launched casino, because of the scam problem, but if they have proven their casino through a bounty, most likely people on this forum will try to play a new casino, I will try myself, building trust is very difficult especially we are newcomers There are many processes that we must go through, and many roads that we must go through.

Depends, if the casino offers him a good rate, I don't think he will refuse that offer. That is better than getting peanuts on managing a bounty and most of the time they don't get any pay at all because of rampant scams. Sticking to only one project can be beneficial because it gives them a peace of mind and they can enjoy their lives more better.

Using escrow is a good practice but they should be careful on picking an escrow as there are a lot of escrows in the forum that is known to be trusted but later on turned shady. It is still much better if the bounty manager holds the funds because even the escrow can get tempted on the huge money that they hold.

A big advantage, of course, because attracting a trusted bounty manager into the team will make a gambling site's prestige rise drastically. There have been many examples of successful gambling sites because they were hiring BM who has an extraordinary reputation in this forum.

Yeah, there's no guarantee about the success but the chance is way higher than hiring no one equal to a reputable manager or person that's known to a great community.

For the newly launched casinos, most of them are really allocating budget and if they're out of budget for this thing. They'll have to go through with another strategy if there's another one which they think is better for their money.

Yes, of course! Because The good bounty managers are always brings project campaign with a well checking , and if there the bounty manager works with the project team, it is an very good advantage for the project at the outset. Most of the bounty projects that good bounty managers bring are good. Occasionally a couple of bad ones happen . So I think it's really a big advantage for a project which has a reputable bounty managers with partnered.

The experienced "Signature Campaign Managers" will be the first line of defense against scam sites, because they will do some "checks" to see if the new casino are legit or not, so for that reason alone .. I will trust a new casino more than any casino that are trying to do that on their own.

The first impression in a already congested and competitive online gambling scene, will be the make or break for a new casino. The new casinos that are trying to create a ANN thread on a newbie account (not Bronze account) already sends out a bad first impression.

Also..... Casinos that cannot even afford to hire a Signature Campaign manager, will raise the red flags with me.  ::)

Yes of course, it's a good idea to team up with well known bounty managers from the forum. Bitcointalk has been around for so many years, there are some well respected users here who would be a good addition to any new project. Running successful campaigns here on the forum for years gives a huge trust bonus. I think for any new crypto casino it's a good idea to run a signature campaign here on the forum. It's a good way to spread your name and attract gamblers. Also it's the first step to work with a campaign manager here. The only problem is how to get the managers involved, with so much experience they will definitely ask for monetary compensation or maybe a small stake in the casino. Nobody would like to give their name to something that doesn't look like a success.

That's ultimately correct.
I mean casinos are supposed to be generous and lavish to get your clients' attention. Plus a reputable campaign manager is an advantage for a few additional dollars on the payroll.
We have seen successful online casinos numerous times in this community who have been running for years  now.

I'd rather have a reputable campaign manager run my advertising campaign than running it on my own even If I have to escrow the funds. Running it with a manager is totally different than running it on your own.

I have to disagree since it's not always true, there are some campaigns in this forum which runned by the owner and work until now. Perhaps those owner who become the campaign manager have different criteria to determine, accepting and counting the participants with their posts. As long as the funds get escrowed by reputable members, I don't think any participants need to worry anymore with the payout. What does the participants need to care is check the project they're promoting, if it's scam or ponzi scheme... then you'll ruined your accounts.

But it is for a fact that having a well known manager handle the campaign would be like skipping over 4-5 steps in the process of trying to let your casino was trustworthy or not (That is if we assume that bounty managers do a full background study on the casino itself, idrk how they work tbh). If you really want to minmanage the process though then running the campaign all on your own would be a lot better (and also to save up payment for the bounty manager service ofc).

Suppose the casino really wants to hire a well-known bounty manager from the forum. In that case, the team from the casino needs to communicate more deeply with that manager so that the bounty manager can study the project and understand the ins and outs of the project. This is necessary so that the bounty manager can determine whether the project can last for a long time and grow better in the future or whether the project still needs to be improved before being launched.

This is one of the steps so that the casino project can run well and hiring an experienced bounty manager can provide valuable input for the casino. In addition, the bounty manager can add shortcomings if the project feels something is not good.

I agree, it is like hiring a celebrity to advertise your casino. I know you can run the signature campaign on your own, but still, this is difficult to manage because you have other things to do. These expenses should be added to your promotion expenses since the signature campaign is really good for newly opened casinos. Also having a campaign manager could also boost your reputation on your new casinos . People here in forum doesn't really trust immediately to newly lunch casinos so if you have reputable signature campaign manager could be good to build trust

Don't call it a partner, maybe hire them because they are professionals and they know how to run the marketing to promote the business. But of course, choosing the right bounty manager is very important, the one that has the good reputation in the forum would always deliver good results most of the time.

Only the few ones that are not conversant with the forum here but i think if they make an enquiry at the beginners and help section there they would be referred service under economics where we have lot of reputable campaign Managers both on bounty and signature campaigns.


All this are the role expectations of a campaign manager, the casinos will just ensure they fall into the hand of a good manager all things will be going fine.


of course yes, they can't do it all by themselves, and the influence of users on this forum has a great significance on the fate of those casinos getting users from the forum through a reputable campaign manager.

It could be one of the ways to gain engagement and trust from the forum members if they would partner with bounty managers, however, it shouldn't solely rely on that. After all, the trust given by the players are mostly from their first-hand experience from the service of the casino or gambling website. Engagement is nice to have wide reach and garner more clients, but trust of a player will not be based on that alone. As some said, some new sprouts casinos even partnered with one, but ended up getting scamming the players or providing bad service.

The reputation of the manager won't really matter if the casino won't do well in overall criteria for a casino to be considered competitive and in par with the existing ones.

Except that most managers here in the forum know what they're doing and are very good at it. They're not only for the exposure of the platform, they're there to help you manage and run things on the advertisement side while you run things in the platform.


It can, yes, though some managers may even be the reason for the downfall of the platform. If the manager deem that the platform/service is untrustworthy, they may speak against the platform and distance themselves on the said platform. In order to gain trust, it's not enough to hire a trusted manager; you must also be trustworthy yourself. Managers only boost confidence on the platform, but it is the platform/service's job to establish their reputation around the forum.

Not an assurance it would bring up positive results most of the time because there are things which would really be ignored after the marketing or campaign do end up because it all matters on how good

your site it but of course having marketing in together with known manager would really be making out some significant effect which would really be good for the business.

Its not something that ensures trust on precise manner but gradually building it together with proper marketing should do the work.

Don't be shy say that name of that casino so that we will be aware and avoid it at all cost. Who is the manager that manage that casino? Trusted manager will do a brief investigation if he is going to handle a legit company but if its suspicious, he won't accept the deal no matter how big the pay is, because reputation is much more important to them plus they can earn more than that if they can continue working and getting more legit deals in the future.

A trusted and a well known manager doesn't needs to exert much effort but their name is already enough to attract costumers. It's going to be a big help if a new company do something like this.

You have a point, but it is a good start with this. Having a reputation now is difficult because you know a lot of new casinos and a lot of scammers that are really making an effort to scam people. My point was that this was a good start to hiring a reputable manager to manage the sig campaign to promote the casino, which can add reputation to your casino. There are still instances that it gets scammed, but this is kind of rare because having a signature campaign and hiring a manager costs a lot of money.

Yes theres no assurance that a partnership with bounty managers will gonna win trust of gamblers and attract new customers to patronise new casino because at the end of the day the only thing matters is the reputation and what kind of services does a new casino will offer. This is just a part of their marketing strategy and I think theres nothing wrong by considering this option because somehow to other new casino this strategy works out on them.

It all depends on what strategy is used by the campaign manager. As you know, some managers use strategies in which participants of the promotion program receive rewards on the casino deposit. This approach not only increases the number of casino users, but also allows users to personally check how fast it is possible to withdraw funds from a gambling site. In my opinion this approach also increases the number of real reviews on the forum. That's why I think a manager's competent approach can increase awareness of a gambling site.

Many do this but some successful campaign managers doesn't really require this kind of method because they just want organic users to come and for sure some campaign participants will just come and withdraw what they earn for that week. I think what really most important thing here is how the casino engage with there community and how they execute their other promotion because even if their manager is the most trusted user on this forum but if they didn't take action in terms of spreading more their markets then casino might failed to gather more players to their site.

Not because they use a known manager does it mean they can be trusted. Sometimes they just hire a manager so they could have an effective promotion but that doesn't mean they can easily earn the trust from the players, it can be earned through time in my opinion and new gambling sites rarely get it so they should work on it.

The risk is on the bounty manager the casinos can always close or shut down after they scammed gamblers and that leaves the bounty manager to defend himself, there are advantages and disadvantages but the greater risk is on the bounty manager and he should see to it that the casino will be running their operation in a long term or better the BM should personally know who are the people behind the casino.

This thing still depends on the Campaign manager, of course, they don't want to ruin their reputation too and we know how we trust them they won't accept a gambling platform that will not pay their users still at the end of the day they still to the users they need to make a DYOR. Users will stay if the management of the gambling platform makes care to them users are not a beginner into the crypto world that think it might be a suspicious and a red flag gambling platform.

Would really be common sense for them on making use of those popular bounty managers rather than on using that nobody on where we could really say that there's some impact since its been
advertised or handled by a good or known manager which means that it is indeed a good project/platform which would really be creating that kind of impression aside
from other things to be shown off.

It might not give out some guarantee but sticking on the current best is always been ideal or really worth for them to spend their budget on.

I think good thing when have new casino launch have partner with bounty campaign manager for promoting on aignatire campaign. But as alternative way only, if can reach reputation by other side like advertising on CMC, Bitcointalk Forum I think is enough how to get reputation from memver, actually added and partner with Bounty Manager give positive feedback and easy how to get positive reputation from member.

Gaining trust is very difficult, but I agree that new casinos should work with bonty, because every time you do business, you must do everything you can to attract the attention of your fans, you must also try to build trust so that the casino you develop can receive positive messages from new user, I'm sure If the casino works with a trusted bonus manager, there will most likely be a positive value from the newcomer.

Getting trust when you are just starting up or being new into the market is something the toughest or hardest thing to be attain by any business or services out there which it is really that understandable or in common

sense that you would really be aiming on making use with those things that had been known or popular on a specific market to take advantage of it but of-course you would need to shell out funds for that.

Not really partnering but, for an evolving Casino to gain more recognition in the crypto space, there is a need for them to run a campaign on one of the most or should I say theost crypto involved enthusiast forum and that is bitcointalkforum for sure. The truth is, running these campaigns actually works as, one would always want to test out new things and see if they are fare or the reward to risk ratio is favourable. A lot of Casinos have succeeded through the activities of campaigns and still continue to trek the line and as such, I think it's best for up coming casinos to have a chance, they need to run campaigns too.

Indeed, hiring a trusted manager cannot be used as an excuse that the gambling site they market is good but at least it will definitely make the name of the gambling site known to many people in a short time.  In the midst of the current tight competition in the crypto gambling business, all methods, including inviting trusted managers, are wise things that developers and gambling business owners can do.

Many time with trusted Bounty Manager failed manage bounty between signature on service tread or altcoin signature until less payment after bounty or signature ended. I think get trusted with new casino depending with how active advertising and secure website using, usually have scam new casino site bad website and not secure for access. but when have partner with bounty manager good effect keep popular on bitcointalk forum but still need serious thing with active promotion on other forum.

It is difficult for someone that we aren't familiar with. Trust is also hard to regain again once it breaks, this is why all the casinos must be careful not to hurt their customers once they knew that their customers start liking them. Before, most of the new gambling sites always go for signature campaigns more than bounties but signature campaigns are only limited to this forum.

You are right bounties are a better way for them to promote their business because bounties are all around. It includes forum promotion, social media, articles/blogs and many more. Now, there are a few new gambling sites that do bounty. They now realize its effectiveness.

The participation of these reputable or known campaign managers have is a huge influence and impact on the site, it gains trust the same thing that people looked into them. So many gambling sites succeed because of this idea and this forum contributed a lot to their journey.

However, this never means that it 100% truly deserves trust, of course, as gamblers we also have to verify it by ourselves by simply doing searches. For some reason, they fail and that was because of something behind their back that is questionable.

The bounty manager that will partner with a gambling casino should be good at checking the people running behind the casino, I've seen many bounty managers in the altcoin section losing their reputation because the project they are partnering with or campaign they are managing turns out to be a scam, that is why they are now posting a disclaimer on every campaign or every project that they partnering, this is to save them from any liability that may arise in case the project turns scam.

The campaign manager has always the prerogative to stop the campaign if he feels there is something wrong with the team or the casino. This is why most BTC CMs will ask for advance payment for the week of campaign and if the team will not send the payment for next week, they will pause or hold the campaign up until the team will send another batch of payment. This is different when it comes to those alts or tokens, what the BM can do is post those disclaimer that they are not held liable because the payment is usually at the end of the campaign, or after few months after the end of the campaign.

The CM has always the option to stop the campaign if he knows the site is turning to be a scam and not resolving the issues. Even if the team is paying the participants. It is his decision to stop because it means, he is also promoting a scam casino and only care for the payment, which is not good for his reputation.

It's definitely an edge for a newly opened casino to partner with a good and reliable bounty manager as it will make the whole promotion for casino very interesting and impressive especially for those players who are looking for new spots to hang with. As long as the owner of the casino does not aim for dishonesty in the future that will take advantage on the players part, then i think bounty manager will stay by his side and will always aim for the success of the casino.

I think "partnership" is not the appropriate idea instead, hiring the service of a reputable manager to advertise the gambling site. That alone is the only job of the campaign manager and not to the point it will follow the partnership terms of the gambling site as these owners might take advantage of the popularity of the gambling site.

In conclusion, since those new gambling sites hire some managers and are willing to spend money on marketing, we can assume they are really serious about promoting their site. We should be just aware and vigilant before using these sites as campaign managers don't have a way to detect if these new sites will be turned dishonest someday.

That's beyond the manager's control.

Bounty Manger add new posting disclaimer on every campaigh handle looks he can't guarantee his project will be success later, I think partnerahip with Bounty Manager still not give impact will be trusted on new casino. But have Bounty Manager will make new casino website popular when advertising on Bitcointalk forum. But when new casino become scam, bounty manager will not responsibility and left their hands.

Exactly, campaigns managers that are recognized in the forum do not have the need to take projects that may put their reputation at stake, and as such they will do everything they can to make sure that whatever project they take and promote in this forum is a legitimate one, and if they find something that does not seem right then they are not going to accept to promote that project, now they are not perfect and they may make a mistake but they will immediately correct it and they will denounce the scamming casino and the community will flag the scammers behind such casino.

It's true that it all depends on a trusted and honest manager, but in my opinion, if the manager is trusted, he will definitely not betray the trust given, because they also don't want to damage their own reputation, a step taken by the casino to partner with The bounty manager in my opinion is a very good step, although it is not a guarantee to make the public believe, but at least the initial step will have a positive impact on the casino.

A good casino would choose a good manager to handle professionally their promotion and a good manager would accept the offer if he thinks the gambling site is good since campaign managers wont just accept projects without checking it but I don't think they can be trusted easily even if they hire the most reputable manager, they still need to prove that their new casino can be trusted.

Valid point. Reputable and trusted managers here in forum wouldn't accept offers easily most especially if the offers come to someone unknown and hasn't established a name yet in gambling industry. It is of importance to the managers to know if they are transacting with trusted casino so that their name won't be tainted.

Because as you know, there are some casinos offering good services, only to leave the players hanging and waiting for nothing after they got what they want. Not all of casinos are like this, but still, the managers should be cautious because their name would be at risk.

There is no best place to advertise a crypto-related stuff than a crypto-related forum, and bitcointalk is the most active and largest crypto forum on the planet Earth  with a monthly visit of over 2 million visitors. So the best way a new crypto can create awareness is by partnering with Bounty managers to gain more trust from users on and off the forum by initiating a signature and bounty campaigns by the selection of a good number of forum users to wear its avatar and daily sharing of post on Facebook, Twitter and instagram through the bounty campaign to create awareness.

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If a casino wants to release a promotion, they need the help of a professional manager who can manage the promotion and help develop the gambling site.
It is a good way to hire a manager who is experienced in managing many gambling sites and has gotten good results.
But first, the gambling site needs to give the manager the purpose of their site so that the manager can see that the gambling site will have a good future.

it's true as you said everything needs a process, no single business can immediately grow rapidly and is immediately trusted by everyone, like bitcoin before no one believed bitcoin was safe and reliable, some even said bitcoin was a scam, but over time bitcoin is very popular, so are new casinos if they are honest, and choose honest partners, I'm sure many people will believe it, but what is clear is that everything takes time.

Very much likely, it is a powerful strategy to use refutable, trusted and pioneering bounty managers here. These managers are serious about their work, and wouldn't let their reputation at stake so they would make you feel  on how much the casino is safe to use. They've done this a lot of times and casino's won't let their business go out of hand if some new random and unknow person manage their promotion in this forum. It would be a risk for them, and you could also see how well the casinos now are, when managed by these kind of BM. There are still that are up even tho years have already passed, this shows that it is very effective.

I am not talking about specific casino or bounty manager, but if you are not the owner (not your keys not your coins) a bounty manager could be deceived and scammed like any other user that work with a casino.

For sure It can help for growing a better reputation or to avoid issues but trust Is something that you earn with time, even casino need time to grow trust and It can be taken in count just with a bounty managers

That's good, but I don't think it's the deciding factor. But if you look at many casino sites, the bet that does the promotion here looks more professional. Although I have heard of some problematic sites. But because this forum has many members who do reviews, many people know so avoid the site. So of course a manager must be selective if running a promotional campaign. Because they bet with the credibility of their account name on the forum. So I think there's a correlation that it doesn't really have a big effect.

That is also not guaranteed. We have managers here that are trusted but eventually they turned into a scam. They choose the big money that they hold over their reputation, although that case have happened in bounty and in signature campaign but if the gambling company only hired a manger to post and manage their own thread then the pay can be a little lesser and gambling company can decide to not give all the payment at once.

If the manager have turned into a scam, he can be replaced easily but if the gambling company turned into a scam, It's game over for their business. Hiring a trusted manager may give a positive impression but this can be temporary only because users will still further investigate if the casino is truly worth it or not.

This is only to those bounty managers which does have significant reputation or recognition on this forum and the rest isnt really just worth for it to be considered.Im not saying they arent
legit or good but you cant really deny that it would be sensible on spending your money or budget on popular ones rather than on having no reputation at all because you are aiming
for more exposure which it would be really be the most sensible thing that you must do but of course making out some partnerships or ads doesnt make success.
It would be always mattering on the product/service that had been offered.

I agree have seen that so many times in the altcoin section's bounty campaign, that is why to protect the integrity of the bounty manager, they post a disclaimer about the particular campaign that they are managing you really never can tell in a business that runs online with anonymous people behind it, even people you know personally so better make disclosure or disclaimer on your participation to protect your status.

Actually partnering with a bounty manager doesn't really have much effect on the casino. This may have little impact on a casino project that has experienced managers and its launch is sure to end in success. what has to be done is the Team has to work alone to build trust in the Casino, the most important thing is how to run the Casino to gain the trust of the players. Some people may think that if the Casino cooperates with the Bounty Manager, it will be more effective in the future. However, the manager cannot be held liable once the casino has officially launched. I myself hope that the Casino team can manage it better, so that trust is built to use the Casino as a place to play.

I do think it helps the casino to put up a name in this forum. Reputable managers has experience in handling start ups casino before and most of them do have a reputation now. Long campaigns tends to make forum trust the casino more since we know that the casino has a budget for marketing their business and wouldn't do such act like scamming just to torn of that reputation, Partnering with a experience manager is also a plus in them especially if they are just starting. Thought most managers doesn't like being on a casino team, They like being neutral with it and do the job well.

Many bounty managers, especially trusted ones, also make a disclaimer that what they trade can't necessarily be trusted 100% but they try to keep control and keep the users as strong as they can. Not always casino sites that are handled by a trusted bounty manager can be trusted forever, but we know that the percentage of these gambling sites will be very small.

It's pretty obvious that while the new casino will hire the service of a campaign manager, they will do their best to give their users an excellent service on their site. If there will be lots of complaints at that new site, it will reflect their incompetence in handling the situation. If will continue, the campaign manager itself might opt out with the management.

Hiring reputable campaign managers should not be the finish line. The site's service is what matters for the new site's marketing to become effective.

I think everything is based on what is left in good. A casino need to have enough fund before they can advertise here cause they will be spending huge amount of money to advertise here especially through the use of campaign managers.

 Many casinos may not have that fund which is the reason why they normally come here and create a thread where gamblers can ask questions and get link to their gambling site. Only platforms that has enough food can hire a campaign manager do advertise for them through signature .

For me, it is not a must to have a campaign here. Great if they can afford to.
Much better if they have working platform free from bugs and other issues.
As long as they take care of their players like no withdrawal issues, provable fairness in place, and others.
In time, they will earn their reputation even if they are not running their campaign.
But if they have more than enough funds, collaborating with known CM here will further give them positive response from the community.

Yes, you are absolutely right, for now everything that involves a signature campaign and the hiring of a campaign manager with an excellent reputation (like most of those on the forum) is an investment that I know will pay for itself later. , on many platforms they invest large amounts of money paying influencers, and yes, they can get results in the short term, but in the long term things can be deflated, while if they invest here in the forum the amount of traffic will be very good, the players that will start playing will be of a high caliber, and I am sure that it will always be with a large number of players, I think it is worth it.

Good response that you've got.

They should really be focusing on their casino first and remove those bugs but once all clear with that, there goes the marketing and they really need an expert and someone whom is trusted by the community that they're going to enter.

Usually, the new ones have the budget for campaigns and other marketing and hiring a known manager is a good take that they can follow just like what the others did.

I'm not sure because new players try new casinos more often than old players. Perhaps the curiosity of new players is greater than the old players so they seek and try new casinos. If the new casinos do not do or follow what the top casinos do, it will certainly not be easy for the new casinos to develop better because the new casinos will not have a great chance of surviving. Promotion is one thing that new casinos always have to do to get the attention of gamblers and maybe new casinos can issue special events periodically.

Each platform has budget management, so part of the marketing allocation will be used to promote their projects through BM already have a good reputation to attract the interest of this forum community, I think every project promoted with signatures or bounties will increase visitor interaction, members of this forum have many members are active gamblers with big bets.

He is right on this, marketing should be the last piece, focuses should first be on features, bugs, and support when things are perfect and everything is in place marketing should be launched, a great marketing is when you have something to offer better than the other established casinos that is what the signature campaign is all about telling the community what they are offering through what's on the signature.

I personally think it's one of the best investments that an up and coming casino can make.

Is it going to necessarily mean that the casino will be successful? Of course not. But being willing to spend on advertising and gaining legitimacy through reputable members of the community certainly helps imho.

So in that sense it's less about the actual marketing and more about the trust that they get for being willing to spend handsomely on marketing.

You are currently enrolled in a signature campaign and it's a gambling site that you are promoting but your comment seems to be contradicting. Just be careful on what you wish for because if ever it came true then you won't have a source of income anymore.

Anyway campaigns are not only for the benefit of the users on this forum but companies do also get the most of the benefit because this drives a lot of traffic on their website knowing that this forum bitcointalk is the most popular crypto/bitcoin forum on the world wide web. Campaigns can be affordable depending on the negotiation between the manager and the company.

Yes.

The community will be confident that new casino is in good hands and it's easier for them to attract people that will deposit on them. That's why the forum is the best place for them to have their casinos advertised.

Mainly, with someone who's reputable and is trustworthy not just by them but also by the community.

Partnering with a reputable and experienced campaign manager is a good idea but not always a must for the success of the project and there are many examples that confirms this and this applies to all kind of businesses not only casinos.
A reputable manager will always do his own research and check the legitimacy of the project before accepting their offer. So when forum members see him promoting a new project they will trust it as much as they trust the CM. Besides, an experienced CM knows what kind of on-forum promotions the casino needs to get more exposure and reach as many members (potential customers) as possible.
But, as I said, it's not a must. They can assign one from their team to take care of promotional campaigns on this forum and achieve the same or better results. It's just this may take longer.

Depends on the gambler - do you think everyone is aware of bounty campaigns in particular the newbies who have just joined gambling?
But of course partnering would benefit Both the parties. I think they should take the chance if their budgets allow. Otherwise there are other marketing managers who can also help in the promotions of casino.

^ But usually it succeeds, especially if they hired reputable managers and has a lot of promotions like contests which makes increases their reputations here. But the problem is the budget that they have, it will surely have a huge cost making such promotion, like even contest that we usually saw it here. In that way, they are able to increase their trust because of this community. Look at x1bit casino, even though they have a red-tagged but still they are promoting that casino which means for sure it has an effect promoting here in the forum.

New casinos will get reputation but if they're doing this on purpose then its not an appreciable act, and a casino can't be completely trusted because they hired a reputed manager to promote them, it will ensure the payment of the bounty campaigners and nothing beyond that. They have to build their reputation by offering good service and get the customer satisfaction.

I can say I understood you but it depends on the campaign manager, I am not saying a new gambling site can not provide bad or poor service or it can be scam, but before a good and reputable campaigns manager would take up to manage the campaign of new betting sites, it has somethings to consider, not all campaigns a campaign manager will accept because through questions and negotiation with the new gambling site, the campaign manager can understand if the campaign will be a good one or not. 

I am not supporting that campaign manager has 100% role to play, you are also right because if a gambling site is not providing what the customers wants, they are likely not to grow but shrink and become not reputable. That is why new gambling sites need to have different promotion services and provide excellent customers experience.

Maybe before they hire a well-known manager, they can see how people react to their site on their site's ANN. Usually many of us will provide suggestions or criticisms about their sites and if they have said or asked when they would like to launch another promotion here, they can contact a well-known manager to help promote it.

But they can also contact the manager directly and hire him if they believe their site can grow even better so that with the promotion, their site can grow well and can start making profits. Building a reputation is a difficult thing and cannot be done in the short term and it definitely requires effort and hard work. One way is to hire a well-known manager to promote it.

I think that with a bounty campaign going to the casino, it will increase traffic and of course it has the potential to increase the volume of existing games because there will definitely be some people who will start using their money to play casino and of course reputation is a very important thing for a gambling place that still new so the campaign in my opinion is very important.

Managers are just people that had been hired but as a knwon or reputable ones then you could really that have that impression that it is a good project but nothing is assured because the team itself are the ones who would really be having the last decision whether they would become scam or would give out best service.Reputation is something that you do need to build for some time and it's not something you could do on point.

this is also a special concern for me, even though a campaign manager is paid but they should be more concerned with their reputation than the payment they receive

the fault of trusted bounty managers is that they are too weak against the developers who pay them (not all of them but I see some BM). Until then, reputation is the most valuable asset on the internet (I mean this forum)

I think you have a point with what you have said. It can be unethical to just hire a trusted and famous manager only to gain trust easily. This can be an example of unfair competition. Old casinos before didn't think about it but we can see that they stand up with their own feet. If we check out their ann threads, the threads and replies were only created by them and not by any other people. It can also be shady when someone wants to gain trust easily because they might have evil plans later on.

I am not saying all of them but there must be a few of them. It happened before so the possibility for it to happen again is high. Managers should be responsible too on accepting deals like this, not only the players.

Having a reliable bounty manager around will always build a good reputation on the casino, that makes it easy for it to attract customers and gain trust from them. But i do believe even without a reliable manager, a newly open casino will still manage to become trustworthy if they have good customer service that will make the players keep coming in. Because no matter how famous or big time a casino is, its always the good services of the staff that will make them stay for long along with sense of security.

It will be the new way of promoting”998the new casino gambling had use to crypto .The Bounty Manager can help the project to go the nex level.The price drop of bitcoin ereduced .The owner had created by the website which help the project
It’s essential to aware of project.So the bounty manger easily promote the project from his twitter account for the well reach.

Bounty Manager less knowledge with detected as scam or not on new casino gambling, actually when promoting with signature campaign indicated as scam Bounty Manager not have to responsibility because his function as promote only. But with experience bounty manager less have new casino as scam project and they have research detail before handle and promoting some new casino site. Keep make your research when getting new casino launching because have trouble usually when make withdrawing and not process instant and most manually.

A bounty/campaign manager can be someone from the forum or even someone from the casino team itself (through a brand new forum account). I make no distinction on this matter, since the casino is legit. Of course a reputable bounty manager from the forum helps the casino to gain notoriety and popularity faster, but it's not a must anyway.
The most important thing is to give freedom and independence for casinos to manage their marketing campaigns in the way they think it is better and more effective for their business. I like to see different methodologies of campaigns management. Not everything should be standardized.

I don't know how far this could be useful....
Of course, the reputation of an acquaintance would bring much more security, but would a manager risk his reputation for something new in the market without having many guarantees?
I believe that even being presented by a trusted member of the forum, nothing will stop a malicious site from stealing its users, because unlike a subscription campaign where the manager can charge the advance payment, in a casino there is no way to give guarantees.

No harm in partnering with responsible Bounty Managers.
But there are other ways of marketing the casinos like youtube, tiktok, insta and fb where there are a lot of people -why not cover those as well?

It is not about the Manager or something popular but it is the site itself how they will manage their advertising and how they will treat their players.
because in the end if they are scam the manager cannot do anything to save the victims funds so best to look deeper and learn what is the site first before putting our money and experience bad cases in the long run.

I believe that reputation is a very important aspect and that is earned by doing the work correctly. This new casino or those that are about to be created can request the help of an administrator and these can promote them, but if the creators have a bad administration of the site and begin to disappoint the clients, this collaboration will not be of any use or the advantages that it may cause, the people who made the decision to go to them will withdraw upon seeing the lack of credibility and their allies will do the same and possibly never cooperate with them again; so I consider that everything is based on whether it is so good and reliable to bet in said place, or rather it depends on the impression that can be left to the client at the time of trying the new casino, so that in this way the news expands and more and more players enter until it becomes successful.

Probably it's not just to gain trust why mostly wants to hired a trusted bounty manager to advertise their platforms here in forum, because you know obviously there's a buch of gambler in here so it's just to get more attention as well. and based on my observation even newbies can run a campaign and they still can get more clients because people sees they're legit and trustworthy. So i don't it's necessary to partner a trusted bounty manager just to gain trust or whatsoever.

Bounty managers are good options and so are other marketing managers. I am not sure I only see the bounty campaign suggestion and not other marketing strategies.
There are a lot of other ways to market business - like small videos on insta and tiktok are also very helpful in generating business but everyone is still to only bounty mangers - I don't know why~

When a rewards program is run by a well-known manager with a good reputation, it inspires trust among community members. Promotion in TikTok or Instagram is mostly done by people far from gambling who do not care not only about what they advertise but also about their reputation. Therefore, a rewards program with a manager is more preferable for a new casino.

Made sense, but we're talking about newly opened Casino. First impressions would always gonna be important. If someone sees a new casino run by a reputable manager, that individual would automatically thinks that this specific website is trustworthy.
If the website will eventually scam the people, that's another issue and I believe that's not what we're talking here because we're talking about trusting a new casino. Scam don't happen first before you trust or distrust the casino.

Bounty manager from this forum most trusted than casino team itself because begin with newbie level rank less participant want to believe with beginner rank account. Usually with new casino gambling partnered with experience bounty manager here and have manage many kinds of casino service bounty signature campaign. But keep depending although from internal team self still have good reputation trough have escrowed payment before campaign running. Maybe payment on escrowed depending with how many weeks campaign running to make investor believing with their new casino.

Just learnt that social media has very hard rule for gambling. So obviously bounty manager is an option.
Someone in other forum stated that youtube is also an option for promotion - the promotions can be done through youtube ads.

it's true that even newbies who run campaigns can get great attention from other users but they are required to follow escrow if holding a bounty campaign because there have been many cases where the newbie doesn't pay the hunters who work, this is also part of the trust so that's for I hired a trusted bounty manager, it's quite important even though it's not something urgent either.

This is true, as long as the casino is honest then they may take a different approach to managing their campaign and things will be fine, however by hiring one of the best managers that we have in this forum they can make the transitions way easier as the managers which are in this forum understand very well how the community works already, while a new campaign manager which belongs to the casino may establish rules that are against what the forum allows and they may give an unprofessional impression if they make too many mistakes.

If the beginner who runs the campaign does help the promotion of a legit casino site, then automatically, the beginner will also get a good reputation besides the casino site will get a reputation.
Maybe it's about how the bounty manager works well and is supported by the casino itself because the bounty manager can't work without getting good clients and understanding how to provide good service to its users.
If the two of them can indeed provide benefits to users, especially by always paying attention to campaign participants, then we can be sure that the campaign will run for a long time and of course, the casino will also develop.

I think it depends, if the relevant casino team doesn't have someone from the casino team itself to manage their threads here properly, then surely they should partner with managers here who already have experience and have more time to manage their threads. But if the related casino team has someone competent to manage their own threads then I don't think partnering is required. Because, as long as they can work well and when there is a problem they are quick to fix it then that will be fine too.

You're both taking a risk doing that. If you get partnered with a manager or any other respected and trusted person, you can both benefit from it until one of the parties fuck up and loses trust of the community, then it impacts both parties. I think it's worth doing it as long as you can strike a deal that both parties will accept and I'm not only talking about bounty managers. Getting trusted legendary members on your team is also a good idea. I feel like it can be even better than a signature campaign.

Good management of casino advertising and marketing is really essential if a new casino wants to be known. Partnering up with reputable managers can be a good option, but just like you said, if they already have one, they can stick to it. Although partnering with a known manager could be an edge because of his reach to this forum's members and players.

But it won't be an easy task to find someone willing to risk their name for a newly established casino. Maybe if they could get an assurance and the casino will prove themselves that they won't fuck up and break the trust of the players, then it could happen. Otherwise, there would be little to none who would fall for it even if it would compensate well. So the best option would be having their personal manager that is really suitable for the job to entice and encourage players.

I would certainly think that this is a good idea to do.  I don't know a whole lot about how the "bounty" deal works, but having gone to business school and having marketing classes I of course recognize the importance of getting your name out there.  I think this goes pretty much hand in hand with signature campaigns. This would certainly be a good way to start building trust. I have certainly found a few new places due to signature campaigns/bounty programs.

I can't agree with you. What are people actually attracted to? Loyalty is good service. Now if a new project hires a good trusted bounty manager, people are more involved in those projects because the bounty manager looks trustworthy. And if the project is partnered with that bounty manager then there is no point, it will undoubtedly be able to easily gain people's trust.

But it show a loyalty of a bounty manager and not of the Casino. But of course one can try.
In our county, because there are no casinos so it is hard to make an attempt what services one should do. But I believe people come into gambling because they have their own needs. Not because a good bounty manager suggested them the particular  casino.

Bitlucy campaign has been paused now over delay in payment and withdrawal. That is not a good sign. The fault came from Bitlucy casino which claimed that they found many cheaters who exploited them. What happened may have raised talks and given rise to doubt on the ability of the casino to meet up its financial obligations. Although Royse777 has resolved the payment issue now to bounty hunters as a trusted manager that he is. If casinos think they can partner with good bounty managers and then misbehave it is going to count against them.

This is not really that surprising, almost any company is going to do something like this, when you see an ad with a movie star promoting a product it is very unlikely that they are using the product they advertise, the marketing campaign takes advantage of the popularity of such a star to try to get more people to buy their product, and something similar happens with campaign managers in which the casino borrows the trust that people have in them to promote their casino, now if the casino is any good then there is no problem with that, however some scammers may try to take advantage of this but as soon as they try to pull something shady the campaign manager without a doubt will take some steps against them so they do not abuse their reputation.

There is no problem with partnering with reputable bounty managers if you really want to run a successful campaign but I think the casino itself can run their campaigns if they do it right but some managers have really good influence in the forum and there could be an advantage on hiring them.

I think, the right first step.  If you are a gambling owner, you need a team to build the site.  proper management is needed in order to achieve the planned targets.  what you're saying is one of the most common management techniques to employ.  regardless of whether the casino is licensed or not

Not necessarily needed if the bounty campaign could handle the project well and could put up a good impression but it will be an advantage if they will be partnering with trusted bounty managers here for they could easily gain the trust of users and could start building up a reputable name. We all know that trusted managers know how to analyze if a project is legit and has good potential so people will rely on their promotions.

It all depends on the casino and what they really wants. Some casinos just want to have an ANN thread here and watch what gamblers thinks about it especially if they have any complain or what they think about their platform with their support. Some casinos want gamblers to have a feel of their casino with frequent ads which is the reason why they employ bounty managers to help with their casino advert. Casinos need campaign managers to help gain trust in the forum because they can't do it by themselves.

If a Casino wanted to gain a "sense of trust" specifically in this forum, they should partner with reputable Bounty Managers.  The reason for this is that reputable bounty managers have gained followers so automatically, when this bounty manager manage a campaign of a casino, their follower will be influenced because they trust this Manager.  Though Bounty managers in a general sense help in promoting the project within their respective spheres of business. the trust can be earned when the client had proven that the Casino can be trusted themselves.

I wouldn't say casinos can't do it on their own, but a bounty company with a well-known and well-established manager helps speed up the process of getting users and gaining reviews and reputation.

Many casinos have been working with known bounty managers for several years and I think this is the best example that such an attraction strategy works well.

Competition in the gambling industry is very tight, because lots of new casinos appear and quite a lot of them end up being scams. Therefore I prefer
to play gambling at the old casino which already has a reputation. If we want to try playing at the new casino, to make it easier, I will try to play at
a new casino that is promoting in this forum and partnered  with reputable bounty managers. Because usually experienced and trusted bounty managers
want to maintain their good name in this forum, therefore he will do his best to do some screening before accepting a partnership with new casinos.
For new casino if they hope to get the trust of the members of this forum, they have to work with reputable bounty managers.

First of all , no matter what company decides to make a partnership with a bounty manager , that manager should be a high trusted one among Bitcointalk forum or in certain communities as there is a reason that some campaigns of different projects are not doing well when they're trying to advertise by picking managers by suggestions without making a research on their own.

If you do have a great manager that knows the rules of bitcointalk ( this should be the 1st step no matter what ) , he has a great reputation along the forum but also he has been known to have serious bounties campaigns before , that should be a way for casinos to gain trust alongside users and alongside gambling communities as well.

Also we do have the situation when no manager should make partnerships with shady websites , casinos or anything that enters in this category as that will ruin the reputation even further for both sides but competition will always be who's on who when it comes to casinos and promotions.

Casinos can manage their own campaigns but achieving promotional results will not be maximized as they have to prove the reputation of the casino platform and guaranteed payouts, maybe using escrow or suggested payouts in BTC.

Partnering with a well-known and reputable manager will accelerate promotion for a wider range of interactions so that many new gamblers will be registered, campaign participants have no doubts about payouts because they fully trust the manager's reputation. I believe that the achievements that have been planned for promotion will be realized more optimally if handled by a reputable top manager.

Not only by reputation but also on the service expertise or experience do managers had when handling a campaign which it is really just totally different comparing into those part of the team who would tend to run off a campaign.Im not saying that they aren't capable but nothing beats out into someone who do have solid experience about community handling and as a business owner then you would really consider on hiring someone which is really that known about this field or in terms of marketing to make your spending or penny worth.

After creating a new casino site it is well known and of course a medium is needed to gain popularity And that medium is certainly more convenient if we do it through a campaign.There are thousands of casino betting sites in the crypto world that are well known. However, they have become so popular through any campaign.That's why you need a bounty manager to be well-known.

The way you describe it, it is more on the success of the promotion than gaining trust?    I agree with that argument.  Reputable Bounty Managers often have lists of worthy bounty participants.  They do screening so that the Casino won't look bad while these participants are promoting the casino.  As for the trust, I think it is at the casino's discretion whether they will be trusted or not since Bounty Managers' task is to make the promotion successful.

actually not to seek trust, rather is to promote their project to get more community by creating a campaign and spreading it through this forum, twitter, facebook, discord, youtube and many more.
i think the bounty manager here plays a role as the person in charge of the campaign which must be managed properly and can attract a large number of communities to join the project.
so for me the bounty manager also plays an important role to attract more community to join the new gambling project

if you add in the thread what you know about bitlucy it will bring perspective to what your suspicions are bro.
indeed the forum is a place for a promotion of a project (for those who put up a signature)
like a collaboration (perhaps) all Bm will welcome every campaign offer that will be accepted. whether altcoin or casino and other gambling (btc payments). I personally think that campaigns are only a means of cooperation (participants are free to choose) and users who like to discuss will refer sites that pay for it will certainly increase marketing power.

What happened to Bitclucy and Royse777 is a bad example, bounty managers should refrain from working full time or as a representative of a casino, it's ok to manage their campaign but being part of the team, which bounty managers do not know the real identity of the team that manages the casino is a big risk to the reputation of the bounty managers, casino come and go and bounty managers should seek to be independent to maintain his status here in Bitcointalk.

Honestly, I really regret what happened to Royse777, I'm sure he actually has good intentions (providing a trusted gambling site to all members) but what happened was the opposite, he was trapped in a team that had no good intentions so that his reputation that he has built over the years must be tarnished by the many complaints that Bitlucy received. Other BMs must take what happened to Royse777 as a valuable lesson.

I don't see any wrong if the Casino decide to partner with the bounty manager, in fact, there would have an advantage if that happens and can attract more investors and more community here in the crypto space will support more in the casino for sure in the end. But partnering with the team I guess there is also a disadvantage too, once the campaign did something which is not good in the community and the impact possible things that would be blame is that BM and destroy its reputation as BM for sure in the end.

any good bounty manager must have made a mistake. maybe royse777 has some good intentions being a manager at a bitclucy company even though it's really a big mistake if the bounty manager doesn't know the real identity of the project.
but maybe we need to see how much royse777 improves its reputation. because royse777 is a trusted bounty manager (in the past) and the better the bounty manager, the more he has to deal with, like his own reputation

I don't know if the manager has ever been part of the team before this bitlucy and royse777. But it didn't went well for royse777 as he lost money and reputation. 😔

However, If a legitimate casino adds a manager to its team for marketing matters, then it can certainly prove to be good for both. But the condition is; a legitimate casino. Not like shit bitlucy which makes trouble for the manager.

no doubt that we humans make mistakes, but more importantly, we should learn from our mistakes. royse777 made a mistake by trusting on CEO of bitlucy hopefully, he will not repeat this again and will take a lesson.

So you're trying to say Royse777 right now isn't trusted bounty manager anymore? If he's not trusted, why he need to pay the campaign and the customers will his own pocket money? He can easily ran away if he don't mind with his repuation anymore. Some people doesn't feel safe when they reveal his identity and his mistake was so trust with Bitlucy without thinking the consequences.

Those who work on bounty managing program on Bitcoin Talk can do well, if the casino owner think they will do better for his or her casino site that is wll. We know that it is a popular forum which is renowned all over the world. But first you have to see that your casino site is legit or not or in developing progress.
 
After a deep observation bounty manager decide they should work or not. Over all i think it would be a great plane. I think this is a strategy.
In a competitive business you must work with creative ideas otherwise it will be difficult to get success.

I am neutral on Royse777's flag but I believe that he is still reputable, anyone running a business here in Bitcointalk and doing good will not do something that will harm his business or reputation there were things that should have been done, and out of Royse777 control, there's also risk being a bounty manager and this is just one of them, all the other bounty managers can learn from what Royse has gone through.

I'm sure Royse777 hasn't lost its reputation. many members know how Royse777 has worked for years in managing campaigns.
Royse777 is only bothered by the current case. even one of the clients being handled also had to cut off cooperation with Royse777 regarding the campaign being carried out. Royse777 certainly understands this problem. and the solution is being worked out. he tried to return the funds withheld from his pocket money. it's a form of responsibility that I believe we should appreciate.
but I have not read the continuation of the case, whether the return has been executed or not.

As I understand it, this activity always carries a certain risk and in some cases the bountymanager can cover the losses from his own pocket, but if these losses are huge, then what should be done in this case? After all, we can say that the manager is just as affected as the other participants in the bounty campaign. Another thing is that Royse777 associated himself with the project itself (if I'm not mistaken, he wrote about close cooperation with the project team) and was not just a hired manager.

I think it is a good marketing idea to associate one's business with reputable authorities in certain niches.

Personally, I feel more safe to use a casino if it has a successful collaboration with one of the bigger thought leaders on this forum. I'm not referring necessarily to bounty managers, but a good quality and well managed campaign can certainly make a difference. The casino quality needs to match the "ambassadors" though. You can't hide the crocodile behind the bush. Also a reputable bounty manager won't usually take on work unless it meets certain standards.

If the bounty Managers has a good track record here in the forum, surely there is a big advantage in if ever there is a new casino wants or looking for a BM here. But of course, if ever the casinos didn't give the payment for the Bm to distribute to their participants the blame is not at bounty managers. That is why it is still good to participate in the casinos if there is an escrow, there is a high chances that the payment will  be distribute at the right time.

I was confused at first with the headline but it should have been signature manager, bounty manager doesn't necessarily need to be a signature manager as one is paid in Altcoins while the second is paid in bitcoin only which can be found on service board. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52#)
This depends on what the Casino is trying to achieve but remember that reputation is the out most priority here, if you don't have it, no campaign manager will want to work with you because there is no point in promoting your casino that doesn't pay users. If your casino is well known for good payout, partnership with a manager should be a bonus marketing for the company.

no, i didn't say it like that.
i said "in the past" not that i'm saying royse777 doesn't believe it now, but i mean that in the past royse777 has never had a problem being a bounty manager in any company and many member of this forum admit that royse777 is a good manager, but after he joined the bitlucy project, there are several forum member who think that royse777 made a mistake promoting a project that doesn't know its authentic identity. so currently being discussed about the reputation of royse777.
i know until now royse777 is a very good bounty manager and i really believe he can make his reputation good again after some problem he faced when he joined the bitlucy project
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@Pandu Geddon said

It is ideal only to the manager who already built a good reputation in the community at the same time for sure they filtered those offer to make sure that the community itself is safe from the scams and not getting paid that's why how the escrow works if they make a campaign and manage by the managers.

We are lucky to be on this forum because we have several reputable and trustworthy BMs to handle campaigns as well as escrow agents. They have been used to handling campaigns for a long time and that is why many new casinos are contacting them to deal with promotion issues on this forum. By using trusted BM services, casinos can run good promotions and casinos only need to focus on providing the best service for members. The support from the campaign will lift the casino reputations and will become one of the trusted casino.

It is not bad at all, but I am thinking that as the campaign ends, the manager also will not continue to work with the casino again, but if the campaign continues, the campaign manager will continue to work together with the casino company. One of the reasons a casino will still work together with a campaign manager is if the campaign manager has given the casino sites owners how to promote their casino and it successfully work, they might later even employ the campaign manager as one of their main workers.

A good promotion can be a great way to lure people to a casino they haven't visited before and to try it for the first time. Having a good campaign manager will make their promotions look great in front of potential users and will get forum members interested, making them more likely to participate in the promotion. On the other hand, inexperienced campaign manager could end up making the promotion look bad, or go through the whole process completely wrong, that will give the casino a bad name. One of the best ways to avoid having a bad campaign is to have a good campaign manager.

However, a great promotion isn't always enough to increase the casino's reputation. Just because they have a good promotion, that doesn't mean that the player experience is as good as they could be. Since the most important part of a good casino is the player experience, it's important for the casino to have a good support from their staff and a management that can provide a pleasant experience for all users of the casino. When the user experience is good, the casino will become better known and will have a stronger reputation.

Interestingly, bitcointalk used to be a place that we talked about bitcoin and maybe a few other altcoins but it is not like that at all anymore.

This is now a place where gamblers are here, and we talk about crypto casino a lot, and there are also a lot of places that start their own crypto project as well, new tokens and such which gets promoted here. That is all this forum is all about anymore, it's the casino owners and gamblers, it's the project creators and investors, these four group in total are the biggest piece of the forum nowadays. This is why it makes sense for new casinos to deal with bounty managers, a signature campaign would improve the chance of success a lot.

I agree with you, Logically, if this forum doesn't have any impact for casino, then there aren't signature campaigns from casinos or other online gambling. Now, most signatures are filled by betting sites, its mean in this forum, gamblers are very active and casinos have the potential to be known by all members here. So, surely one day there will be a new casino that uses BM's services to promote their services here.

Of course, this forum is very influential or has a good impact on gambling sites that are promoted or holding a signature campaign is a very effective step to develop the gambling site.
First, the gambling site will be known in this forum and try to get involved, especially those who follow the signature campaign, almost everyone will definitely follow it.
Second, the longer the signature campaign runs, the more people will trust it and the more customers it will come because it is guaranteed to be reputable and fair.
so this forum is very useful for gambling sites that I think will continue to appear.

It could be a good point for the casino to open his new brand with a Bounty/Campaign manager, but we have to say few thing:

- The most important thing of a casino will be always payments and support, if you don't have it, you can't substitute this two important point with a bounty manager.

- I work as campaign manager, but If I have to do this, in the main thread I'll always write that I'm not involved with activity in general, and I'll always reserve right to close it instantly if there is a scam accusation in way to

protect other user of forum.

I believe you made a typo. I've fixed it for you.  ;)


Kudos to you! This should always be the guiding principle. Putting the welfare of the community before your own financial interests should be the hallmark of every good bounty manager.

Some form of promotion done by a casino/sports betting platform gives more visibility and trust. This trust can be seen even high when the promotion is done through a trusted manager of the community. When the participants were paid in their own gambling site account, these users will initially give a try and further spread the word if they feel satisfied with the performance.

I think this is one of the best answers I have found in this thread, because I don't think it can be better described, honestly I am usually a person who when I see a casino that is managed by a recognized campaign manager I don't worry about the site, I know that the manager would not let anything strange happen and I am sure that in case something bad or not good would stop the campaign just to see unusual behavior, here we are all human they can also make mistakes and if they do I think it is understandable and we cannot hit it with a hammer, in every place, in every casino, in every bet there will always be risks, and we are the ones who decide whether to take them or not.

Thats why we do have those comparison in between managers which are known and reputable into this forum and to those who are just new into this industry or job which it would really be that common sense that

we should go for the best current ones but of course it would really be costing you a little bit more but hence on the attention and relevance for such exposure and being recognized which would really be worth.
There's no assurance though for success but its true that known managers wont really be accepting a deal if they do see that the site or service isnt really that worth to be advertised or being exposed
into the current market but it all depends because there are people or managers who do accept even though it is shit looking.  :D

Yes, you are right, in some cases it is seen that some things can happen with the sites, many unpleasant surprises as has already happened at the moment, but when sometimes the managers see something that is not right or cloudy, it is where they must decide to cut everything bond or relationship, and not to give or keep hopes, I have learned lately that the hope to give it to a site that shows certain scam behaviors will never learn and will continue doing their thing. It's a shame, because casinos are really a very lucrative business and being in our forum brings customers, traffic and a good reputation, as long as they do everything right.

It will be of the very best of idea for New casinos who intend to run campaign/bounty on the forum to partner with campaign/bounty managers to gain trust, because with the rate at which online scam goes on this days, nobody will love to be scam nor waste time promoting a signature campaign and not be paid, and just like the case of Bitlucy which started well on the forum and later ended up with series of complaints by members of withdrawer issues and the e.t.c of which Royse777 was given several negative trust for promoting scam. And that's why it will be good if campaign manager try to investigate campaign before acceptance so that they don't end up promoting scam on the forum.

but they must be with reputable and willing to spend good amount for this promotions because if not? then there will be no good return for their efforts.
but not exactly , because this will always depend on what kind of project/site they are promoting because there is a similar story recently that a very reputable account and manager here ? that lose trust because the site end up a scammer.
well , only few participants will wanted to receive and use their payments in gambling because lets admit that many campaign participants are not gamblers for the first place.

New casinos don't need to collaborate with any members to increase their trust rating, if this casino is really built with good things and good development and big bankrolls they will gradually gain the trust of the community, unless they need marketing to be able to get many more players from these forums they can hire a campaign manager who can manage and fulfill the wishes of this new casino.

If the new casino is trying to promote on this forum then they need to hire a reputable campaign manager because it is important to inform the public or the members here that the new casino is getting serious about their casino project. In addition, over time, if the promotions carried out by the casino go well, it also gives more confidence to the public to play on the new casino site. The new casino can also get a good reputation among the casinos that have earned it so that the new casino can be included in the list of trusted casinos.

Well, in the case of that casino, I think that many people fell into the trap, and they also took advantage of the reputation and trust that this great member of the forum has, in that case I do not dare to judge because obviously all of us who are in crypto are looking for having more and more money, obviously clean money, and maybe at that time he was cheated and that led him to have a big problem, and I'm sure he had no idea that it was going to be a scam, I think all campaign managers they are exposed to that danger, however that member showed to solve the problems with even his own money, something that not anyone would do, for me he has earned his respect and I consider that anyone can be deceived, nobody is perfect and deserves a second chance in forum.

The gambling casino's can hire trusted members here to start their signature campaign but i will not trust that the casino is a good one based on only this factor. For me, if a trusted campaign manager manages a gambling site campaign, i will be sure that the funds are escrowed and there will be no problem in the management of the campaign , however to trust the gambling site, we need the feedback from the players and their experience playing on the site.

There are several casino (actually some are popular now) had partnered with reputable manager here in forum , things that sometimes made me think that they are not just partner in managerial for  signature and bounty but also partnership already in gambling business.
I don't wanna name one , but at least we can understand this in the Service section combining this gambling section,

That's the point, partnering with trusted bounty manager especially if the partnership is about managing the campaign does not mean that the site can be trusted automatically. Bounty manager is hired mostly to manage the campaigns only and they have nothing to do inside the casino. However, it is still a good start if a casino have partnership with trusted forum members as I believe trusted bounty manager/forum members with long history of experience wont accept a deal with a casino if the bounty manager feel that there is something suspicious in the casino.

Having a reputable users from the forum to help you managed the marketing on bitcointalk will surely boost the reputation of their casino or platform here. Most of them has a task which is not limited to managing signature campaign but rather they managed or assigned on the whole promotion on the forum such as bonuses, games and other campaigns that the casino wants. Also, since they are in charge with the marketing on the forum, they can also suggest other events or promotion that they can think of and once approved, they'll be able to launch it on the forum.

In any case, casinos that have their threads on this forum and hold various events from subscription to free raffles have a higher reputation than casinos that are not known to anyone on this forum. Therefore, I believe that the joint work of the manager and the casino is a kind of bridge that increases the confidence of users, which in turn benefits both the casino and the users.

But they should have limitations on their partnership, bounty managers have a reputation to protect here he cannot defend the actions and decisions of the casinos even if they know who these people are, it's different if you have established your reputation here and a new casino is coming to establish their own and wants a tie-up, bounty managers should know when to cut the deals and announce it to the forum right away, it's hard to build your reputation here and gets ruin by one project.

How can you say this and do you have any evidence that the reputed campaign manager has any share in the gambling casino too?

It's useless to assume things without any evidence. I think casinos just hire the campaign managers to manage the campaign and not make them the owner of the business  ;)

I think new casinos should definitely with bounty manager - but find a genuine and honest one.
also keep a good repute - go an extra mile to make your client happy. This will bring in more clients without much problem

We have no record of bounty managers admitting they are part owner of one casino, and I don't think they will disclose it, it's a conflict of, interest who will hire a bounty manager that is a part owner or owner of their competitor, they are good as an independent bounty manager than being part of the team and if they are part of the team they are not going to disclose it to protect their hard-earned reputation here.

How is advertising your own casino promote conflict of interests? Isn't the goal of bounty campaigns to make your brand well known? If the owner is good at marketing then he/she should take the position for the betterment of their company. It's also faster to answer questions since you got the answer to every question they have for the campaign that you're running.

Aren't we thinking too much here?

Let's suppose you own a company and you hire a trusted marketing manager who increases your sales by the extra mile. Will you be happy giving him good pay or will you make him a partner in your company and he can claim profits of the company? I think no company wants that employees started to become the owner of the company.

I hope this example makes it clear that managers aren't the owners of the casinos.  :)

There is something I don't understand from this statement and paragraphs but I will appreciate it if you could throw in more light since I don't know and can't speak on reputation as I'm neutral by profile, however, is there a reputation to protect if you are part of a casino team? If You have a reputation in the community, I believe people will want to conduct business with you because they believe you and that will be a good selling point of the casino without raise of any doubt. If one has a reputation to protect in the community, he will do anything to be transparent about the casino at all costs and will pay out all winning except if his not part of the team or working as a bounty manager and been a manager, you can't do much when there is a problem with a casino.

Ofc, man. This is how "reputation" works. Casino hire trusted bounty manager, like Yahoo or Hhampuz. They share this "trust" (abstract term) with this casino. Win win situation. So yeah, for casino it will be an advantage, otherwise it will be much harder for casino to get trust between users of bitcointalk (if it do not have a big name known between people)

Everyone has their mind set - some people want to do marketing this way some want the other way.
But whatever is the strategy - consistency is the key because marketing is not a one time process. It goes almost daily. So choose a someone really worth choosing.

But can this "win-win" scheme have a negative connotation? For example, a casino gains a reputation for itself thanks to the name of a famous manager and at one fine moment disappears with all the money of its players. Indeed, in this case, it turns out that the manager accelerated the process of accumulating trust and contributed to the implementation of the casino's plans, although he didn't know this and was unconsciously drawn into this story. Probably, managers would do well to carefully check new casinos and not rush to cooperate with everyone in a row, because this is fraught with negative consequences for both the manager and ordinary gamblers.

You have a good point there and it's an obvious one. The fact that they hired reputable campaign managers here is one good step in building a reputation here in the community. It also means that they are willing to spend money on advertising and marketing as just placing a banner elsewhere is not enough. This forum is the largest crypto-discussion platform and the gambling section here is one of the active sections here making it a good risk to also spend advertising here.

However, it doesn't change the fact that there's a chance these sites might use the popularity of campaign managers as part of the plan of becoming a shit site later on. That case is possible to happen although I doubt that it will for real since building a reputation is really hard and if the site already earned it, that is something a good achievement as it will last for a long run.

Anyways since sometimes I miss some issues here in the forum, is there a gambling site already that turned out scam after being handled by Hhampuz and Yahoo?  I'm referring only to their previously handled campaigns and not to other managers. Just out of curiosity. There are closed ones but the exit was smooth

Hiring the reputed manager will increase the website popularity in the community.So it automatically increased the number of users to the website.The project manager places a vital role in the marketing in the forum.Secondly you need to loyal to the players,then they get good trust on your website.Once the feedback was increased on your website.The users automatically refer to his friends,it will double the users.

This is true. Remember rose? A long time and trusted member here. He/she manage a new casino and then it turned out to be a scam later on. On your second sentence, you are saying that funds for the campaign must be escrowed by another member and not by a reputable manager?

Maybe that's better since not all trusted managers are clean but I think some are exposed here already that they are doing some shady acts in the background. Not all feedback are accurate so if I were you I will also try the gambling site myself and compare my reviews to the others but if we aren't totally sure on how to judge the site then waiting for more feedback can help.

Trusting a manager specially new ones is really hard since no one could really able to tell if he wont really be running of those funds since he's part of the team or even a member of this forum thats why we cant

precisely able to tell unless we do tend to take a try and prove it out and come to think that even to those popular manager nowadays or this present time starts on being a newbie one but they've done great
and able to prove out themselves to be worthy and only a few of them had able to last long into this forum.There's still who do end up on being a scam thats why its really important
on having considerations on checking feedback and real time experience if you could able to find one but if not then its better to wait up.

This is valid, a trusted bounty manager will speed up gambling sites (who hire them) to get great trust from other members

but the consistency of the two makes bounty managers newcomers, difficult to compete with their reputation. in the case of royse777, it looks like he cheated and the scammers managed to take advantage of his reputation

There's also the possibility that the project itself could lose its reputation. But certainly, hiring a known manager that has great reputation will also bring them in.

That's the actual cycle when the casino has built its reputation and that's with the help of the manager. It is no doubt that it really helps them to go up and have that high traffic and take more customers because of the manager's job.

but in the long run, the increase of players will also be the responsibility of the casino itself. because even if they hired a known and reputable CM, if they are not innovating their services, games, and not taking care their players, they will also lose some players. the best way is to work side by side, while the CM is doing his job, the casino is also doing their job on how to sustain and increase their players.

Thats true. The casino needs to gain the trust of their players by providing a good service and experience. That way they can maintain and attract more players with the help of the well known manager. It doesnt only rely on how successful the campaign is, because even the CM is reputable and many gamblers are showing interest, it will be futile if the casino itself is not good enough for the convenience of their players.

well if you will clearly understand what he says , meaning the manager he is pointing is partnering in bounty related things and promotions , though he had some thoughts that maybe as some part they are in partnership in actual business though you are correct this is a thing that needed proofs because none of the managers here admitted that they are part of the team or the gambling site so this is useless to assume unless there are evidence .

Lol i have nothing to prove because I was just thinking about that scenario but doesn't mean that I completely know or have prove of their connivance .
is there any problem of assuming? and besides we have our  own thinking of matter, some have malice (like mine) while others are plain and simple  ;D

anyway the topic stands  about the bounty managers partnering their site owners.

There is one known manager that happens to partner with a Casino but it ended up badly.  (though I still respect and trust that manager, she just happen to be a victim of trusting someone easily)


Since this is an open discussion I don't think there is a problem on assuming something as long as the one stating that assumption made it clear that it is all his opinion and possibly not true.

It is essential to partner with a reputable Bounty Manager to gain trust.  Since reputable managers are often looked-up, those who respect the BM will not hesitate to try any Casino that he partnered with since reputable manager will always check for themselves the credibility of the Casino and will do appropriate decisions according to their findings.

I want to agree but the manager can't stay innocent if the casino was a scammer.

People who manage, promote, shill for the scams is as guilty as the scammers.

The only exception here is, if the casino wasn't exposed as a scammer earlier and the manager didn't know about it. Then you can't blame the manager because he very well might be a victim as well. But you also can't know if the manager was a part of the scam.

It is a very difficult situation.

Yes, it's no longer the problem of the manager and that's really how they should take care of the customers that have trusted them with the help of the manager.
It's their business and they're the ones that should take full responsibility and on how they'll make those customers that are attracted by the manager, maintaining them is already out of scope by the manager.

Simply example, why famous brands use artists when advertising their products? There are three important points I can mention, these are just a few and there are many others.
- Fame
- Target customers' trust in the artist
- Network

In this forum, who is the artist? he/she Reputable Admin, Staff, Mod and BM/CM. By using BM that has a good reputation, then
- Forum users put their trust in the casinos supported by BM.
- The fame of BM who has a good reputation
- User attention

All of this is sufficient reason why the project uses the services of a reputable BM for its advertising here.

First, what does it matter (who is in what relationship with whom) if everyone does their job honestly?
Secondly, if we are talking about popular casinos, then there are Drake-level partnerships. I do not think that any ordinary btt user or group of users is interesting for a popular casino as a partner. Too different financial levels.

You nailed all of those and that's right. There's already the network built from the BMs and that's why they're also being hired by a casino that needs help for their business.
It's all about the promotion and the target market and they see that it's appropriate for them to use it. Just as you've said, like the traditional way of promoting, BMs do help to make things set for the new casinos that will hire them.