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This is another official match-up.

It's Luka vs Booker and CP3 vs Brunson.

What team do you like to win, and why do you believe they will win?

Head to head record.
Mavericks have never won a single game in the last 9 games they met.
Will that record be enough to determine that the Mavericks here as no chance to win?

Suns will on this series 99.99% as Mavericks has no way to counter the strong line-up of Suns which is Ayton, CP3 and Booker. Suns is a monster when this 3 is on the floor because they can get an easy inside points due to CP3 and Ayton combo with the threat of 3s by Booker. I never see a strong team like this inside and out. I really thought they are already done when Booker injured but CP3 takeover is huge upgrade for them.

I guess CP3 really need badly this year championship ring and trophy.

I believe Suns will win, because cp3 and booker has a good team up and still good combination in every game compared to Luka and brunson base on my observation.. And the center of sun is always aggressive as well and good scorer unlike dallas center, so i believe Suns has a huge potential to win on this round.

OP are you planning on creating separate threads for each team this 2nd round of playoffs? :D


How did you know? 99.99% Mavericks won't win lol.

Don't just refer to the names of those famous players in the Phoenix Suns. Not a fan of both teams but I think Dallas Mavericks are not a heavy underdog here. Don't also forget that season games are different from playoffs games. The intensity is much higher at the playoffs that's why we can't expect the unexpected like what happens when the majority thinks that Mavericks are nothing against the Utah Jazz because Luka is injured. His teammates adjusted and Utah Jazz became a practice team to the Mavericks. :)

If ever Suns will win, it's not a 4-0 win. But for me, Mavericks in 5.

Each team? no

Each game? yes.

planning? no, because I have already made different threads on all the matchups in the 2nd round.

Feel free to check the other threads.

Warriors vs Grizzlies 2nd round discussion  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396736.msg60008287#msg60008287)
Miami Heat vs Philadelphia 76ers - 2nd round (Let's discuss) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396609.msg59997457#msg59997457)
Celtics vs Bucks 2nd round Series.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396465.msg59989329#msg59989329)

Maybe you are right that mate but only thing I can say we can not predict the outcome of that match between the suns and mavericks cause we all know that mavericks do their best in this season to claim the victory even Though suns has a big three players that can carry their team to win but we must think that even how they strong are there's a chance they will loss, remember 3 is always lesser than 5 so if their opponents has a team work from guard to center and these three guys mentioned are only working for sure they will have a chance to loss.

Do you even know how to read a statistics? Do you even know that Suns is in the Finals last year? So I'm not buying your speculation about playoffs performance of Mavericks since Suns already proved themselves since last year and maintain the top seed on East until this year.

My percentage is just a metaphor but just only show how dominant Suns on this matchup. I can offer you 2:1 bet on this match up if you really believe Mavs can take down Suns on this 2nd round of playoffs.

You got that right because the Dallas Mavericks or any team who advanced and survived in the second round are worthy enough to call that they are tough to beat and certainly they are not going to be defeated like that easily. Yes it's hard to deny the Suns talent especially when there's Chris Paul for them and other heavy players but I don't think they can sweep the Mavericks here.

Dallas only has one chance to win this series, and it's with a massive Luka Doncic.
And when I say this I'm not saying the one who has already been playing, although in gross statistics it seems like a phenomenon, but with a Luka who considerably improves his shooting percentage. Since he is throwing a lot and putting not so much.
Phoenix is much more of a team.

Luka is good but Dallas has also improved as a team already.

They were tested in the 1st round when Luka missed a couple of games due to injury, but the Mavericks still beat the Jazz and when Luka was back, they become a stronger team. Brunson has stepped up already, it's a great challenge for the Suns although I must say that Suns undoubtedly has the bigger chance of winning.

Dallas is +5.5 in my bookie now.

It's very tempting, and I'm also interested in putting a bet on the ML.
I hope this isn't a trap, I would go against the home team as the Suns have lose one game at home against the Pelicans.

Like I always say since the beginning, regardless of the odds and team status, I will always side with the Dallas Mavericks.

No analysis was involved as I just follow my own preferences.

If others want to bet on this series without relying on their own preference, you should skip betting on this. The way these 2 teams are playing, reading others' analysis and speculations shouldn't just be your reliable sources.

Statistics? Are you kidding me? If everything can depend on statistics then it's easy to predict who will win the series? You are very funny. Since when that the team that was in the Finals last year should be the sure team to win any playoffs series.

I believed Dallas Mavericks will win but sorry, I'm not a fan of them so I won't put money on it. I just counter your metaphor figures because it does not make sense and your metaphor is too much.

But if ever I will put some money on it, why against your 2:1? Dallas Mavericks has 3.45 odds on the sportsbook.

I'm willing to bet $100 against you if you will offer the same odds for me. :D You trust your metaphor, right? Come on, and accept my bet.

You should not fight here. LOL

Just take the betting to the bookie because you will never agree on the odds you offered to each other.
Anyway, as a gambler and as a fan, we have our personal opinion and prediction on the outcome of the series, so let's just respect each other.

Just follow your instinct, Mavericks is no joke, they have a healthy Luka and his teammates are stepping up to the plate to make this a competitive series. Booker will be tested if he is fully healthy already, so if you like to find out, game 1 is the best game for you in the series, and take that spread.

Even underdog, I can't really consider Phoenix Suns here will dominate the Dallas Mavericks. I understand that Utah Jazz is different from Phoenix Suns but before Mavericks face the Jazz, the majority thinks that Dallas won't win as Luka is out for 3 games and Utah Jazz is really considered as one of the strong teams in the West.

And then what happened next? They sealed the series as lots of Mavericks adjusted to the game especially Jalen Brunson and even Luka returned, his teammates play on their usual. No pressure, no

Aside from Luka, there are lots of noticeably good shooters in the Mavericks right now that even their center, Maxi Kleber is good at 3 points shooting. That won't change against the Suns as these Mavericks are more hungry to win. Sorry, Chris Paul, I like you to experience a championship but the Mavericks will win this series.

Game 1 is about to start, and you can still place a bet and I’m also rooting for Mavericks but we all know how the Suns play on the whole series, this will be an exciting match between the 1st and 4th team. Hard to predict right now but its better to focus on your favorite team here for the game 1, and go for the stats on the next game. Let’s see if Mavericks can pull the trigger against The Phoenix.

Yep, Brunson and Spence Dinwiddie too, but I don't think it will be enough against the Suns though. Jazz has a history of choking and losing close games. But against a strong lineup like the Suns, it will take a lot from Luka if they ever wanted to go to the finals. So this might go on a 6 games with Phoenix winning 4-2 in the series. Goodluck to everyone who are going to bet on this games/series.

Might be better if we have a poll?

We always wanted to see a good underdog beating the top seed in this series. And Mavs is capable of that because of Luka. And now that they have improved this season and doesn't have players that under perform like KP, I think their chances are high and maybe they will force the Suns to adjust to their game. And so I'm hoping for the underdog to win - Dallas.

I don't really consider head-to-head games record in Playoffs since the different levels of plays are being shown here. Maybe I will just pick based on Favorites which is the Dallas Mavericks since, in the first place, I'm seeing their current roster can match the Phoenix Suns even how good they are the whole season. Mavericks today is not just Luka but his teammates are also improving and contributing to winning every game.

The shooting FG percentage of most Mavericks is impressive against the Utah Jazz. That performance can always repeat even against the top team like the Phoenix Suns which is also one of the teams that has a good FG percentage in the whole season.

Hey, mate. We are not fighting. That's a constructive exchange of discussion. It's usual to see a disagreement on a topic like this. It's even more heated at the social media comments if by chance you encountered them at some point. It doesn't mean we are not respecting each other's comment (I don't know to that user if the feeling is the same though) but just supporting our stand with our own beliefs and analysis.

I will continue to support my stand whatever it takes.

Again, no fighting was involved here. That exchange of statements is normal. We are in a public forum and expect disagreement from different people. :)

Well, 45 points from Luka Doncic and all of Dallas wasn't even close to winning the game.
I think that the lack of the second guitar, which would be Jalen Brunson, was very noticeable, I really did not contribute many points and no other colleague did not contribute a considerable amount either.

They lack a good center, they have no interior defense and it's easy for Ayton to generate points in the paint.

That last shot of Dinwiddie if it went in, it could have change the outcome of the game, though Suns won but Mavericks will cover.
Luka alone cannot win, but like I said, Mavs has to protect the paint, that's their problem now.

Sure. Let's make this bet happened. I will pay you 100$ when Mavericks won the series. If you really want to support your belief you should bet in 1:1 basis as I understand your statement. I change the initial odds offer since you want to show that statistics don't matter at all so why you will an odds?

Let's have a friendly bet mate and stick to our beliefs in the game. Cheers.

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@Beparanf and @agustina2.. Make it happen guys.. I like this kind of game, you are having fun in the playoffs.

1;1 is fair if you guys both agree with it. Some get it on! :)

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Anyways, Suns is still -6 tomorrow, do you think Suns is the public bet?

That's right mate of they can sustain the inner points by suns next game for sure they will win as we can saw in their match mavericks will not just behind cause they can score in the outer and even in the inner. LukaDoncic is doing great in that game his scored well but sad to say he cannot carry his team alone he need good defensive teammates to win the next match or maybe they are in the adjustment mode they will win if they can adjust the game if they are focus on defense in the 2nd half quarter.

This is one of the most awaiting game of the supporters i do wage with the Suns we know how their capability manage to win this series and also the game between Luke and Devin give too much fire in the game, also with the assist of Chris Paul makes more give a good outcome in the game but still the game is so close too hard to pick its a sports game its all about the risk to win the game.

I still think the Suns will win the series.  When you're playing against a player as good as Luka Doncic, anything can happen on any given night.  Luka is good enough to carry a team to a win when he's having a good night and the Suns don't really have anyone to match up with him well.  Putting an extra little drama on the game, Luka was passed over as the first pick in the draft by the Suns, who ultimately decided to go with DeAndre Ayton.  Ayton has been a beast but I think it's safe to say that Luka has been having the better career so far.  In the back of these two's minds must be wanting to prove they can beat the other guy.

-6 was not only good, but it was an easy money.

It's opposite compared to game 1 but the same result.
In game 1, Suns started strong but melted in the 4th, while in game 2, at the start the game was close but Suns dominated the Mavericks in the 4th.
Suns covered both spread in game 1 and 2.

I personally thought Dallas could cover the spread even If they lose and I thought this is going to be a close game. I was wrong, Booker and CP3 are just too much for the Mavs.
Doncic can't carry a team alone. They could've kept Porzingis as he is a good addition to both offensive and defensive end.

Judging on the 2 games, I personally think this series is over.

They don't have someone who could score and defend the paint, it's all Luka and since we know that Luka is not a machine, so in the 2nd half he got tired and the Mavericks offense is not going well.

Maybe you are right, game 3 is a crucial game, if they lose, then that's it.

Right, it could be over in 4 or 5 games. Suns has too many offensive weapons while the Dallas just rely on Doncic.

And obviously he can't do it alone, he needs someone to step up, and so far Brunson is not doing that as he was check in this series early. Same as Dinwiddie, having a hard time to score points because of the good defense by the Suns.

Well he didn’t reply back and I think this will not gonna happened anymore since Suns already got the 2-0 lead with a convincing win on both game. Maybe he will agree to continue if Mavs manage to even the series on there home for game 3 and 4. I will be happy to still accept his bet offerif this happened while the Suns team is complete(Assuming there will be no injury on the road).

Either way I’m still happy to my todays win bet for Suns. They never let me down as usual.

They covered that spread, you can even bet higher and still win your bet.

So congrats, I didn't bet on this match though, just decided on the other games, Heat vs Sixers.

But in this game, it was really very close up to the 3rd quarter. But when the 4th quarter starts, it was a different Suns team as they built a good double digit lead and the Mavs doesn't have any answer to that.

The phoenix suns are just too much for the Dallas mavericks to handle. Luka Doncic is of course a great player but he’s being asked to do too much in this series. He needs more help around him that he just unfortunately doesn’t have. The combo of Paul and Booker is just too much. Not sure if the Suns can “take it down” but they look pretty damn good right now.

That's good to hear.  ;D

Let's get the good discussion going here, Warriors vs Memphis, this is a good series and Ja Morant is just showing he can trash talk the entire warriors roster. By the way Dillion Brooks out in game 3?

Actually I just took the special offer of Duelbits during prematch, that’s the only spread available on that special bet. It’s a combine bet which technically a parlay on same match so you don’t have that much choice but still the odds is pretty good for the ML and Spread combination. The game result went well according to my prediction. You can check it on Duelbits sportsbook for that very awesome offer.  ;)

It's nice to hear that and for let's focus on the game between this two team mavericks and suns. which those teams showing their best to claim the championship and even though Dallas mavericks will in the adjustment mode maybe next game we can see a good match from these two teams.

This must be a good match in the other side cause we all know these two teams are stronger in their bracket and for sure both team will play better. Maybe the Memphis has a good and veteran star player but we can not predict that they will be the champ because we all know that warriors is not just easy to beat.

I think this is not the thread to discuss the warriors vs Memphis, they have their own thread.
Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396736.0

this is a Suns vs Mavericks thread.

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By the way, Game 3 odds, Dallas is pk or+1.
Easy for Suns if they'll continue to dominate IMO.

The history of their match Suns vs Mavericks, it's true as you say, the Mavericks have never escaped the clutches of the Suns team.

This second half, I see people who want to bet for them the prediction of winning is bigger for the Suns team, the prediction of the winning percentage for the Mavericks is lower than the 1st round, there is an exception in this second half for the Mavericks, if the Mavericks team has a great new player, most likely the situation can change, the chances will be better than the first half.

But for now I see the Mavericks team players are still with the old players, no new faces for now.

The last game between them was last night and Suns obtained another victory against Mavericks. And it was a huge win by a twenty-point gap. Suns are playing really dedicatedly in each one of their games. Mavericks will need to play better as a team but I wouldn't like to lie to myself about it. In the rest of the games, the scenario would be the same. Doncic would try to take all the responsibility in the team and we wouldn't see as strong game as Suns have now. Maybe this can help Mavericks win two times or so but they wouldn't do better than that. Suns would eliminate them.

The Dallas haven't learned on their mistakes on their 1st game with the Suns this round because this time the lead even grow further for 20 points, and mind you, Ayton only played for less than 20 minutes but they still cannot handle Chris Paul and Booker. Luka's efforted won't amount that much because they are still losing. Yes, maybe we already seen enough for this round of their match-up.

I doubt the Suns would not play that strong. Each game is an important game for them and that's why they became the top seed of the West.
32-9 at home and 32-9 on the road. Obviously, they take every game as seriously as they could even their road games.

Mavericks can win against them but the level of defense should not deteriorate in the closing game. The 1st to 3rd quarter was full of energy, they even their chance for a lead but suddenly that 4th quarter made them look too exhausted to play defense. That should not happen and I think the issue is player rotation.

Congrats to Dallas Mavericks, Finally Brunson showed up and bring his A game in the game.
Big win by the Dallas Mavericks, they bounce back strong and has dominated the Suns to get their 1st win in the series.

It was a low scoring game and I like the kind of defense Dallas used in this game.

Good balance for Suns but Mavs had a decent shooting percentage, especially for Brunson who scored 28 points in the game.

It was Danny Green who step up on the side of Sixers and help them to win against the Heat.

Now on the side of the Mavs, it was Brunson, he had 2 bad games and now redeem himself. Yes, the defense of the Mavs is physical, I think they try to bring it in the second game, but unfortunately, they committed fouls and got into early foul trouble. Now they turn the tables against the Suns.

That's what the Mavericks community is waiting for, stepping up of some Mavericks players. They were able to slow down Chris Paul's offensive attack and limit him below his usual average. But the Suns still looking good at this game even though they were downed by a big lead, their overall contribution is good.

I want to know what happens to Spencer Dinwiddie. Maybe it's his first time in a pressure game. He is very non-consistent since the start of the playoffs. He needs to figure out what things he needs to do to help the Mavericks in every game.

Well, it's their homecourt and I guess it's expected. They need to tie the series at their homecourt as well, they need to do what the Phoenix did when they defended their home. I think that's the scenario I am expecting here and if by chance I bet later on, I bet it for the Dallas to win. Looks like another star in the making.

The presence and help of Embiid is what makes the Sixers win the recent match. Danny Green just contribute on it and step up since he is playing on game 1 & 2 while 76ers both lose the game. They just won when Embiid return on the recent game. Anyway we should not discuss other match here since this thread is dedicated to the teams on the title.

This is common when team get a home advantage while they are down by 2 games. Suns lose on Pelicans home court too by 1 game. Brunson this time is very productive but I doubt he can be consistent as Doncic on all of the remaining games with Suns. I really hope they will tie the series so that Suns odds will be boost.

Mavericks finally managed to win a game in this series and dropped the gap to one. They won 103-94 last night and there was finally a better game by them as a team. Doncic only by himself can't carry the team until the end. They always need an extra contribution by at least one more player. And this game was exactly like that. Jalen Brunson contributed a lot to the game by 28 points. And Doncic had a solid performance again by 26 points. And he got 13 rebounds and 9 assists as well. His field goal percentage wasn't much high but this contribution is still very much.

They have awaken Brunson, if he would continue to contribute that way, then I believe that the  Mavericks will be able to even the series. Thier shooting is great, they do the same play as Luka is good in looking open teammates but Mavs have a great shooting at home that's why they won.

I'm glad Mavericks avoided the sweep and Brunson finally stepping up. Luka was doing the same thing he did previous 2 just Mavericks taking less shots. The Mavericks were playing team defence without relying on 1 man to create the offense and play defense as if he wouldnt get tired from carrying the load. Seriously Brunson problems has always been his inconsistency just look at last year against the clippers,  he can play but when up against actual good defenders he just can't dominate the way he did against the Jazz which by the way has one of or the worst perimeter defense in the NBA.

With the help of Brunson to Doncic, Dallas managed to stand still in this series. If they lost the game last night, the series would come to a point that they wouldn't be able to make a comeback from. If Mavericks manage to add another superstar beside Doncic, they would become one of the strongest candidates of the title next season. For this series, I still think that they don't have much chance.

Finally, Dallas was able to snag a victory agains the powerhouse Suns. I was actually expecting that Dallas might blew this one up due to the lack of their players in this playoffs but Luka was able to define the odds. He is just unguardable on the field and he finishes so strong that the %fg gives him the highest percent on the field. As much as I want to root for Dallas, I doubt that they will be able to win against the Suns here.

Like what I also mentioned, Dallas needs another consistent 25+ ppg player on the field to support Luka. Luke on himself is just magical but he needs a support to carry the burden of the others.

Yes, you are certainly right about that Jalen and Luka is a good tandem in the Mavericks side so if they could afford to add another good player in their current line-up then I'm sure that they could be a candidate again in the next season if also they could be this healthy again. But for now that they are against the Phoenix Suns which is more hungry than them and of course with CP3 who also knows how to answer and learn from every mistakes that they did this day, I couldn't help to side with the Suns.

I think they have. I am not trying to underestimate the Suns but the Mavericks are showing life when it comes to the offensive end. It's just a matter of Luka Doncic providing them the ball to keep their hands hot. Finney Smith especially who had been big in shooting outside. He must receive the ball if he is clear and shoot it to gain the confidence.
But, if they will go back to the same game they did in games 1 and 2 where Luka is the focal point of everything, I am sure they will lose.

Suns learns their lesson last season and most probably will not make a same mistakes again, even if they loss right now I’m sure they will bounce back. Dallas was good today having a great support from the teammates Doncic really exploded, nevertheless both team shows a great number I’m sure in their next game they will do more and yes I also support Suns here, they should take the next game.

Definitely, they've learned their lessons, traded KP and overhaul their system. And so it's good to see the Mavericks has one a game and at least make this series very interesting as we don't want the Suns to have an 'easy' road with a 4-0 win. We all know that if there is one player that can help the Suns offensively, it will be Brunson, and so he did in this game. So the Suns are going to be tested in next game, on how will they adjust, it's up to Booker and CP3 again.

They are also the number 1 team last season and right now same story but of course different result because CP3 is going all out and the whole team as well, they may not able to swept Dallas with a 4-0 but at least they show more composure and focus this time. Dallas is a good team as well, its just that Suns over power them and we will see that in the next game, I hope as well that Booker will be more consistent on next game.

These two star player of mavericks did not enough to beat the team of Phoenix Suns even though luka and Jalen do their best but still they can but if they have one other star player will come for sure they have a chance to win against the sun's all they need is 1 more oppensive and deffinesve teammates that can handle the paint area cause sun's easy take a shot in the paint area cause the defense of the Dallas is not just tighten.

They have the advantage but not everyone is expecting them to win as they are not even a heavy favorite in game 3. They opened as underdog and the final spread was -1.5 for Mavs, and that line tells that people are still thinking that Suns could beat the Suns on the road, like what they did last playoffs against the Nuggets.

The Series is now 2-1, Suns have the lead but the series is far from over, one more win by the Mavericks and it will make the series very interesting to watch. I though Mavs don't know how to win, but they proved me wrong as they dominated the Suns in game 3, big game for Brunson who wasn't a factor in game 1 and 2.

We have an early game tomorrow for the game 3 of Suns vs Mavericks.

Dallas is still the underdog with +2 in this game.

question..
can they duplicate the same performance they did in game 3 and continue to limit the offense of the Suns?
I'm thinking of taking the visiting team and believe that they'll finish the series when going back home.

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How about you guys, what's your prediction?

I think they cannot do the same thing or try to duplicate what they did to the Suns on the Game 3 because we already know that the Suns will always learn on their mistakes and make some few adjustments with the help of Chris Paul's IQ. Might be a close game tomorrow but I'm seeing that the Suns will take the win and try to finish the series on their homecourt just like what you've said mate.

I think the Mavericks are just too dependent on Luka Doncic to be able to beat the Suns in an entire series.  The Suns just have too many weapons.  By now Booker has got to be nearly 100% again, and I think so long as Chris Paul and DeAndre Ayton stay healthy, the Mavericks are really just seeing how many games they can take the series to. 

I'm expecting the Suns to come out trying to destroy the Mavs and get them one game away from the next round.  The only thing I reasonably think could stop them is if Luka has an extremely efficient night and scores 40+.  Without some help, I think he'll struggle to do that against the Suns defense.

I agree if it comes down the wire then the Suns should edge out the Mavericks since I don't think the Suns will fall for the same mistake twice in a row even though it's still possible for the Mavericks to even out the series.

On the other hand, it's probably better to wait things out and hope the Mavericks get an early lead since there's not much value on the Suns' pre-live odds.

I disagree. It's just that some of his teammates, maybe struggling to find their momentum in Games 1 and 2.

Look at Game 3 and Game 4 when some of them stepped up and adjust, they are able to deal with the Phoenix Suns. I just hope that Luka's role-player teammates will maintain that gameplay in the entire series as Phoenix Suns are really deadly.

Now that the series is even, I'm sure Mavericks will bring that confidence next game playing in front of the Phoenix Suns home crowd. If they are able to beat the Suns even with Booker's good contribution then it means, the Mavericks can able to slow down their teammates again next game, especially the veteran Chris Paul who is off night for 2 games in a row now.

Mavericks' first quarter performance was a big help for them to be victorious against Suns tonight. They got a win like 111-101. Except the first quarter, the game was very competitive as there was not a big score gap in any of the remaining quarters. Doncic had a big support by Finney-Smith and Brunson again and it was the most important thing that predestinated the game. Doncic played as usual of course. Devin Booker was shining bright in this game and finished it as the most scorer by 35 points too. But they still lost and the series is tied 2-2 now.

That's what happens when Jalen Brunson just does his Jalen Brunson thing. He is one of the keys to why the Mavericks beats the Utah Jazz in the first round of the playoffs but just become silent in Games 1 and 2 against the Phoenix Suns this second round.

Luka Doncic needs this help from his teammates as while he is making big productions, his teammates should also put some effort to help the team win, not just by points but for other aspects as well like good communication, help defense, and many more.

The series is now 2-2.

You've got to give Dallas Mavericks some huge credits for getting back into the series, they tactically outplayed the Suns from the very first quarter of the game, and Chris Paul getting into foul troubles very early before he eventually fouled-out with the game still within reach. Doncic carries the entire team effortlessly and he doesn't need to do all the scoring by himself when they are able to knock down shots easily.

I don't know what to make of this series now, but Dallas stand more than half a chance to win the series from what I've seen in the last two games.

The Dallas Mavericks really deserved to get some credits for making the heaviest team this season struggle, we already thought that they are already finish in the first two games but they bounced back and tied the series now. Luca and Jalen have adjusted on the Suns strategy that's why they are now starting to threaten the Suns position to move into the next round, well see later what would be the result.

This has become a tough series, Dallas were able to even the series, that only tells they are capable of beating the Suns, and with CP3 struggles in the last 2 games, if he will not be able to have a good game in game 5, then most likel Dallas will upset the home team and lead the series.

It's possible and I like the fact that Dallas are still an underdog now where most of the bets are only the Suns. I know Suns will try to take the lead but Dallas have figured out how to win, so most likely if Suns will win, Dallas will cover the handicap, my bet would be Dallas +6.5.

I'm leaning the other way around as I think it'll be difficult for the Mavs to replicate the same performance on the road and 6 points might seem a lot but now's the time for the Suns to bounce back at home. Also, all of the winning teams in the last 4 games have covered the spread so i'm hoping for a similar outcome where the Suns will cover once more and then the Mavs will continue to fall short on the road.

It's looking like a blowout for the Suns right now and even +6.5 for Mavs might not cover it. I didn't expect the home team to pull away in the third quarter and I'm pretty sure they will protect this lead until the end. What's even more dangerous for the Mavs is CP3 not taking many shots so far but with eight assists already.

A 30 points difference win pulled up by the Suns is a really performance, Monty Williams made some adjustments to his team today and decide to play Biyombo as the time as the 2nd option Center for Ayton and Shamet had his minutes increased significantly too, to say the least all the Phoenix Suns bench today were really impressive and played an important role in the win.

We've headed back to Dallas for Game 6, and this could be another game 7 series as both teams have won all games at their respective home court, that would be nice though.

I also thought the Mavs would able to sustain the lead and Suns lead closer to just how much was the point spread, but a sudden Suns burst in the 3rd quarter that lets the deficit ballooned into 15 points.
This series might end on game 6, but It would be better If we can see a tight game 7 between these 2 teams.

Yeah, the Suns went on a run on the 3rd quarter 10-0 run and that was enough to sustain their lead and never look back.

Of course we would love to see a game 7, but the Suns doesn't want to give the Mavs the momentum and if given the chance, will love to close out the series next game. I'm expecting a very competitive game 6.

Seems like the Suns are ready to move to the next round.  Luka got a little help here and there this series, but it's still pretty clear that without a dominant second scorer this team is going to struggle in the postseason.  The next game should be a good one as Dallas has their backs to the wall, but I think they're just overmatched.  I'm expecting a Suns vs Warriors Western Conference Finals, and with the Warriors healthy (more or less) this year, we'll likely see the series we should have seen last year.  That matchup will probably be the best of the postseason unless we get a Bucks/Warriors Finals matchup, which right now seems more likely than not.

I think we will see a game 7 here, both teams are winning on their home court dominantly, and if the trend will continue, then most likely Suns will win in game 7. CP3 is not as good as he was in the 1st 2 games, but Suns still go the win, thanks to Booker, he carried the team.

The pressure is always on Luka since his team mates is very inconsistent on scoring. It's good that Brunson finally helping Luka but in exchange was the rest of the team is playing very awful on Suns home court. Maybe we can see some do or die game once the game fly back to Dallas since Mavs is strong when they have there home support. I notice how Ayton come bqck strong on this game. Suns is very strong when Ayton finally giving some contribution in offence and defence.

Yeah, Finney-Smith didn't have the usual good shooting night. It was only Brunson and Luka who did most of the scoring in this game. Finney-Smith 8 points and Reggie Bullock 0 and Dinwiddle 2 points. That is no support, they just had a bad shooting night overall. Booker exploded for 28 points and CP3 with 10 assists.

Dallas are good at home, but if they would remain like that, they would still lose in the series. Going back to their home court, they need to defeat the Suns by a huge margin so they will have the momentum in game 7 and they can match well the Mavericks.

In that case, I might wait for game 7 before I will place my bet on the series. Though it's a trend I don't trust the Mavericks will win and push the series to game 7 as the Suns would like to finish the series so they could rest early. CP3 has not exploded yet, both 2 games in the road are not good for him, so I'm expecting he will have a good game in game 6.

The Suns easily beat the Mavericks in the 5th game of the series. After this performance, I don't think the series will extend to a 7th game. Even though it is usual to happen such fluctuations in the series, when I looked at the facial expressions of the Mavericks players last night, I saw that they had a great disappointment.

Just what I've thought, the Suns did bounced back after being ugly defeated. They've poured 110 points and closed the game with a 30 point difference giving Luka and Jalen a hard time on Game 5 after what happened on the Game 4. CP3 only did some assists while Booker and Ayton did the most points for the team. Now that the series is 3-2 in favor of the Suns, I wonder what would be the response of the Mavericks next game.

As the Suns try to finish off the Mavericks with their backs against the wall, you have to hope we don't see another Warriors/Grizzlies situation.  You can expect the Mavericks to throw everything they've got at the Suns tonight as they try to stay alive and force a game 7 to see who goes to the Western Conference Finals.  I think Luka has his eye on that new Western Conference MVP trophy that's been named after Magic Johnson. 

That being said, I don't see any reason why Phoenix doesn't finish Dallas off tonight.  I am expecting Luka to work some magic, but to be quite honest I'm surprised they were able to sneak out 2 victories in this series.

Dallas never fails their fans at their home, so I think they'll still win because it's hard to go against the trend in the 2nd round. Only +2 now, if the game is close, it's still worth to take that +2 as it might end up with a very close game and Dallas might cover if they'll lose in game 6.

Dallas what to proved that they are not easy to beat cause they can defend their team and became enter the finals they can win against suns if they are doing good in defense like what they did when they win but only thing they should improve the most they must have a good ball-handler cause what we saw on the previous games lots of turnovers from them and that's the reason why suns less atmost 20 points.

But it was enough for them to take the lead in this series even if CP3 after having a 'perfect' game seems to be struggling. Although we have to understand that he is guarding Brunson from time to time and that gets some of his energy.

So I yeah, why not wait if there will be a game 7, most likely though, the Suns wanted to end this series even at the Dallas homecourt, go back to Phoenix and rest.

This series has really become about home court advantage. There is still a lot of time in the second half but I already stopped watching after Suns trailed by as many as 20 points. I'm still rooting for the Suns to wrap it up but that's unlikely to happen in Dallas. See you in game 7. I expect that to be more physical and intense.

Yeah, and with the Suns being the top seed, they have the homecourt in game 7. I don't know what will be the key difference, but I think Ayton has been dominating in this series and I would say the most consistent amongst the Suns.

If they wanted to win, Booker, CP3 will need to have a big game because they have a hard time stopping Luka in this series. Almost triple double in this game and with a huge blow out win for them.

Dallas came through for sure. The Suns have to be terrified now. The Mavericks have momentum and Chris Paul has to be thinking this is his last chance at a ring. At this point I think the Suns might be the underdogs after the last two games. Booker is going to have to step it up a notch and prove he’s a superstar by carrying his team to the next round. He’s gotta be more efficient than he was tonight if the Suns want to win. After that clip of him taking the ball from Luka went viral, it’s been all bad for Book.

Finally, a game 7 from this NBA season's playoffs would be amazing to watch because every move and decision matters in that crucial game. I wonder how will the Phoenix Suns survive this since even though their players are complete, they still lack something when Luka and the Mavs are playing well. Since this is the playoffs anything could happen and most likely it would be an unexpected turn of events. nevertheless, we thank both teams for giving us such good games to watch that we will gonna missed after the NBA championship games.

I think Suns will still win, however, I have a feeling that the game 7 will be a close game and therefore Suns will not be able to cover the spread. They played well on their respective home court this series, but game 7 is the last game, so they have to give everything they have.

If it's going to be a close game, then it's safe to bet on the Mavericks handicap, they are +6.5 now, I think it's a very attractive odds considering we are now in game 7. It's a Luka vs Booker show, and CP3 vs Brunson, all these players should play well so it's going to be a great game 7.

Good luck to all the bettors, don't forget to bet and watch the last game of the series.

BTW, some significant line movement.
Total open at 209.5, now only 205. (under is screaming)

So much for the "Suns in 4" chants by the Suns crowd.

Looks like the inevitable is coming, top 1 being ousted by the Dallas team. It was so embarrassing, down more than 40 points at your homecourt and then Luka just toying with the Suns defense. Too bad as well for CP3, last year was close enough for him to win a ring, but not this season. I think him and Harden are going to retire without a ring.

It's a crazy turn of events to be honest, having been 2-0 early in the series without Doncic, I thought the Suns would win at least a game in Dallas, then close out the series at home in 5 or 6 at the most, but here we are, the Suns are been obliterated completely, the Mavericks had all the answers to stopping the Suns, and to have won 4 of the last 5 games isn't something just being "Lucky" would have done for you. It was a duly deserved victory.

Another heart breaking loss for Phoenix and the repeat of last year result, the top team are out and now Dallas will move to the finals against the Warriors. Phoenix have an early lead on this series, its just that Doncic has been unstoppable and the Suns can't handle it. Too bad for CP3, he lose the chance again to at least fight for the championship well if he can still play, maybe next conference he can have the chance.

It's not their time yet and hopefully they will become more solid next conference, but rumors are CP3 will retire already so this can be another challenge for Phoenix to recruit other players that can help them on their next quest. Dallas really dominate the game 7, its too bad for Suns they didn't take advantage the crowd.

Yeah, Suns choke in this series, they don't have answer to Doncic and then Brunson and Dinwiddie answering the call of the Dallas fans to response to the game.

And they exactly that in the last 2 games. Not sure what will be the future of the Suns now, and since they didn't offer Ayton a good contract extension, maybe he will exercise his option next season, who knows. Congrats to those who back up the Dallas team in this series.

Chris Paul said he is not retiring but probably some of his teammates are not going to stay. There is no crowd advantage when Sun fans started leaving during the 1st half because of the large difference and the 2nd half they were quiet, the crowd morale is also broken.

I'm disappointed on there fans unlike other teams like Miami and Lakers that full support the team win or lose. Suns once again make the unexpected bad run on playoffs, Devin Booker becomes so arrogant as he keeps taunting Luka Doncic on there previous matches. It's so satisfying to watch how strong and confident Suns destroyed by Luka and the gang despite the odds against Mavericks. I hope Brunson and others will continue there support to Luka when they will fight against GSW on the final round on WC.

GGWP to those whose who bet on MAVS!

Doncic and a great help from Dinwiddie lead the Mavs and played their tails of from the start to the finish. This made them dominate the ring the whole game and that Suns have totally lost their chance to advance to Western Conference Finals. Well, this defeat must be very embarassing on the part of the star players of Suns but everything happens unexpectedly, as the used to be underdog is now close to its championship.

Not so easy, they have to get pass the Warriors first, if they'll beat the Warriors, I think they have a decent chance to win a championship. Again, they are still an underdog in the series, so if you are thinking of betting on them, you'll surely enjoy the 3.00 odds.

Warriors now are the favorite to win the NBA Finals. Bucks and Suns are already done, they were next to the Warriors in ranking, and Dallas is a huge surprise, so let's see if they can surprise us again in this series.

The good thing now is that Warriors have the home court advantage because they are ahead of the ranking, so it's good for them.
As long as they win the 1st 2 games, I would already be confident that they'll win the series.

Crowd advantage will really give the home team a boost on their morale so their part is also important because the team will become steadfast to close the series in their possession, but seeing such actions earlier where most of the audience have gave up on cheering the Suns when they saw the score in first half. That fact alone would seriously affect the teams performance.

Anyway, there was this hilarious meme that was circulating in the internet after the Game 7 blowout where Luka was smiling while looking at Devin Booker. Luka was literally making fun of Booker after all that taunt he received in the past games.

I cannot help but feeling disappointed at the Phoenix Suns. Another time that they were the top team during the regular season and lost at playoffs again. I mean, they also have a great team on the paper. Good PG, solid center. And they were utterly destroyed during the last game. I know this happened a lot in NBA history but they were at least supposed to go to Western Conference Finals in my opinion. I like Chris Paul but he has that not-champion aura around him. He will probably retire before he gets a ring. So many legends have suffered the same. I wish this team's core stay together and get some better rotation players next year and try again.

I assume that giving up on the 7th game in your own court this earlier must have been really demoralizing for all of the players. I was thinking that Suns would advance to next round but they were never my favourite for the NBA championship. Doncic is showing his best play-off performance in his career. Besides, Mavericks showed an unbelievable defensive performance as a team too.

DeAndre Ayton only playing 17 minutes was pretty shocking to me.  He's the guy that carried them to the Finals last year.  I can't believe that we're going to lose another #1 pick because our management sucks.  Monty Williams wins a coaching award and all the sudden he's benching their most promising prospect and trying to fight him on the sidelines of the most important game of the year?  What a nightmare.  Ayton is as good as gone from the Suns this offseason and they're going to be back to a mediocre team fighting for play-in games.  An absolute shame.  Between Booker talking trash and getting shown up by Luka, CP3 getting another year older, and now Ayton on his way out the door, this postseason was an absolute disaster for Phoenix on what should have been their most promising postseason run. 

https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/deandre-ayton-confrontation-monty-williams-game-7/596922

Honestly...
I also hope that CP3 doesn't retire, in these last seasons he played in the NBA he gave his blood in that games!
I sincerely wish he gets his dreamed ring that for me he deserves to win before he retires!!

But he is not consistent in a pressure game. I don't know what's happening to him every year. He began to slow down and shows inconsistency after getting the 2-0 advantage in this series. The reason might be, that Dallas Mavericks were able to think of a way to slow him down. Once Chris Paul was contained, it will affect the whole Suns' gameplay and the only gunner that the Mavericks need to focus on is Devin Booker, as the only player in the Suns that is consistent.

Anyways, since the series is now over. OP can now consider locking the thread.

I just feel a little sorry for Chris Paul because I don't really know if he will continue to have such clear chances of being able to fight for the ring.
He says that next year they will be there again, and I don't doubt it but I think that next year there will be much stronger teams.

It was a really lovely game by Mavericks which was very helpful for them to simply destroy Suns in the seventh game of the series. Who would have thought that they would defeat Suns this much easy? I didn't think so even for once. I was hoping to watch a very competitive game. But Mavericks were much better than them when it comes to the team play. There was zero player who got 20+ points for Suns. And I loved Doncic's amazing effort once more.

That was the surprise that most of us didn't expect to happen, I would say it's normal if Dallas won by a few margin, but game 7 was a total dominant, the hype for the Suns are gone now and Warriors are hype more. I like the playoffs now, lots of surprises and it's very hard to predict on what team will win in the Finals.

I'm not certainly sure that he can be slowed down that easily, I mean they can limit his shooting presence but his mind can work still and still lay lay-up the table for the rest of the team just like he always did. He did managed tough times without Booker but when the intensity is all over him, I can really see that he is breaking down slowly that's why he repeatedly blow several chances like this. Yes, I hope that he will achieve his much wanted ring before he retires though.