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Title: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Cookdata on May 14, 2022, 06:14:10 AM
User 1xbitpatnar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3475604) create a new account today to promote one of the biggest scam casino on the forum with a new pay rate, seems like they are tired of buying copper accounts to display image this time. It could also be that the account is a sockpuppet to the already existing 1xbit scam that has been going on the forum. DT members should investigate this account.

1xbit.com (https://1xbit.com/promotions/big-five/) is looking to advertise their new promotion BIG 5 - Five Championship-Five Bitcoins (https://1xbit.com/promotions/big-five/). To help spread the word we would like to hire users from Member to legendary rank (Mostly Hero/Legendary) to help us out. If you post frequently in Gambling boards, we want to hire you.



      1xbit.com
    Signature Campaign
     Rewards:
     25x member. 40$ week
     25x member. 60$ week
     25x Sr Member: 80$ week
     25x Hero Member: 100$ week
     25x Legendary Member: 120$ week


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: BITCOIN4X on May 14, 2022, 06:32:27 AM
I might tend to think about campaigns rather than investigating new users managing 1xbit campaign. Such users can easily be tagged by DT because so far the casino has proven to be a scam.

If a new campaign takes place and it attracts a large number of participants, then a total of 125 participants will promote it in the forum. This will be a good start to stop the campaign forever as spammers of their signature campaign will increase.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Apocollapse on May 14, 2022, 07:01:49 AM
I'd think that's account is a scammer (not 1xbit's team) since 1xbit had same signature campaign about BIG 5 - Five Championship-Five Bitcoins event [CFNP] 1xbit.com | Five Championships - Five Bitcoins Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384913.0) and still continued until now.

While in the current new campaign, there's some red flags:
1. Didn't bought copper membership (previous other 1xbit accounts had bought copper membership).
2. Promoting same event and hiring to much participants.
3. Using same signature like the previous campaign.

But I don't really care since the real 1xbit is also a scammer too, same as the participants doesn't care with their reputations and willing to get red tag.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: decodx on May 14, 2022, 07:19:06 AM
I'd think that's account is a scammer (not 1xbit's team) ...

I see only two options here. The account is a scammer as part of the 1xbit team, or the account is a scammer not part of the 1xbit team. There's not an overly big difference when you think about it.

Let's see who will fall for this scam campaign.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 14, 2022, 07:48:18 AM
I'd think that's account is a scammer (not 1xbit's team) since 1xbit had same signature campaign about BIG 5 - Five Championship-Five Bitcoins event [CFNP] 1xbit.com | Five Championships - Five Bitcoins Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384913.0) and still continued until now.

While in the current new campaign, there's some red flags:
1. Didn't bought copper membership (previous other 1xbit accounts had bought copper membership).
2. Promoting same event and hiring to much participants.
3. Using same signature like the previous campaign.

But I don't really care since the real 1xbit is also a scammer too, same as the participants doesn't care with their reputations and willing to get red tag.

I also thought about it. It can be assumed that someone created an alternative account, having been tagged earlier, for the purpose of promoting this project and, for the sake of revenge or for fun, to see how many accounts will join. And then they will also receive negative feedback.

There is already one naive newbie who "gladly wants to promote this scam".

Bitcointalk Username: CryptoHeadlineNews
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3346060
Btc Address: 33gCEkKPSpDupCcU5GFgxyFmCfdkCGjVqG
Post Count: (including this one) = 169
Forum Rank: Member
Wear sig and avatar: Yes

I will be very happy to promote this campaign to the best of my ability. Thank you

It is simply impossible not to know about this site, since they are shouting from all sides that they are scammers. However, there are still those who want to ruin their reputation.

What is surprising is that people are so greedy that they believe anyone who promises them little money, and are not able to even check the legality of their manager.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Upgrade00 on May 14, 2022, 08:19:50 AM
What is surprising is that people are so greedy that they believe anyone who promises them little money, and are not able to even check the legality of their manager.
Some might be too lazy to do research on the managers or the campaign they are applying to, looking at the managers trust feedback is the bare minimum most do and these particular account hasn't been tagged yet.

I'll drop a red tag on the user and hopefully that would deter other unsuspecting members from applying.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Cookdata on May 14, 2022, 08:48:43 AM
in the current new campaign, there's some red flags:
1. Didn't bought copper membership (previous other 1xbit accounts had bought copper membership).
2. Promoting same event and hiring to much participants.
3. Using same signature like the previous campaign.

Whatever the reason for opening a new thread to promote 1xbit, as long as people keep applying directly or indirectly promote a scam in the forum, some members will apply just the way one naive member applied and later changed the application.
Checked the thread, l think those who are already tagged are just like zombies who follow 1xbit anytime they open a new signature, it is even a shame that some of the most well known accounts who were tagged continue this act.

Waoh! they are even sharing merit with the user.  :D :D


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: decodx on May 14, 2022, 10:10:07 AM
There is already one naive newbie who "gladly wants to promote this scam".

I will be very happy to promote this campaign to the best of my ability. Thank you

It is simply impossible not to know about this site, since they are shouting from all sides that they are scammers. However, there are still those who want to ruin their reputation.

What is surprising is that people are so greedy that they believe anyone who promises them little money, and are not able to even check the legality of their manager.


I wouldn't say CryptoHeadlineNews is really a newbie. He's been with us for quite some time (almost  a year). I remember reading a couple of his threads. Clearly, this guy is not your average spammer who signs up for 1xbit campaigns. I really don't know what he was thinking.
I am considering putting at least a neutral tag on his account since he was willing to promote a scam for a few bucks.

But I will wait for his explanation, since he changed his mind after we brought this to his attention.

Not interested


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: shasan on May 14, 2022, 12:24:03 PM
1xbit gambling website is a proven scammer. So, the person who will run this campaign is a scammer to and also those person who will work in this campaign should be considered as scammer along w8th the supporter of the scam website. I doubt there is any active or reputed user will join in this campaign.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: noormcs5 on May 14, 2022, 06:33:44 PM
I'd think that's account is a scammer (not 1xbit's team) ...

I see only two options here. The account is a scammer as part of the 1xbit team, or the account is a scammer not part of the 1xbit team. There's not an overly big difference when you think about it.

Let's see who will fall for this scam campaign.


If it is an account which do not belong to the 1xbit team, they would come up and deny this signature campaign. Also i don't think why they need to create new accounts because its obvious that no matter how many new accounts they make, all those accounts will get tagged.


1xbit gambling website is a proven scammer. So, the person who will run this campaign is a scammer to and also those person who will work in this campaign should be considered as scammer along w8th the supporter of the scam website. I doubt there is any active or reputed user will join in this campaign.

Unfortunately, people join this campaign because these scammers scam the gambling players but pay the signature campaign participants to keep the promotion ongoing on this forum.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on May 14, 2022, 06:54:48 PM
They know that they have zero credibility to the forum users but still they are spending money. 1xbit is bigger now, they are spending millions in advertising through out every possible channel. I see them everywhere including TV sponsorships. How the fuck a group of scammers manage to do it with a level zero shame?

Unfortunately, people join this campaign because these scammers scam the gambling players but pay the signature campaign participants to keep the promotion ongoing on this forum.
How about all those are joining their campaign are just their internal employees? I am pretty sure anyone who is genuine will not promote this scam for $120/w


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: UmerIdrees on May 14, 2022, 07:00:13 PM
Unfortunately, people join this campaign because these scammers scam the gambling players but pay the signature campaign participants to keep the promotion ongoing on this forum.

I don't think they pay all their participants. If you go through their signature campaign threads, you will find that there are people who complain about the payments.
1xbit are not to be trusted and even their signature campaigns are not fully reliable.


When we get payments of Five Championship Campaign Sir. We not received payment for week 13.Now we are working for week 14 also..


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: noormcs5 on May 14, 2022, 07:11:52 PM
Unfortunately, people join this campaign because these scammers scam the gambling players but pay the signature campaign participants to keep the promotion ongoing on this forum.
How about all those are joining their campaign are just their internal employees? I am pretty sure anyone who is genuine will not promote this scam for $120/w

I don't think that all those negative trusted shit posters are the internal employees of 1xbit.

Even if we assume for a moment that those are the internal employees, then there was no need for them to start a public signature campaign. They could have paid them without the campaign too.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: DaveF on May 15, 2022, 12:46:45 AM
My vote is that it's a honeypot trap setup by JollyGood.  ;D
Saves him the time of hunting down people who promote scams, they now come to him for tagging.

But seriously, at this point does it even matter. If people think that they are not going to be the one getting hit by 1x not paying out then they will gamble there no matter what we say. What they are is not hidden....


-Dave





Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: acroman08 on May 15, 2022, 04:59:59 AM
I wonder who's alt are these two wack slacker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1118537), int03h (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71475). though I have no evidence that they are actually an alt of someone. it's just weird that they suddenly woke up the same the new 1xbit signature campaign thread was posted.

I'd think that's account is a scammer (not 1xbit's team) since 1xbit had same signature campaign about BIG 5 - Five Championship-Five Bitcoins event [CFNP] 1xbit.com | Five Championships - Five Bitcoins Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384913.0) and still continued until now.
I guess the only way to know is if the 1xbit representative responds here or on that campaign confirming that the campaign is theirs.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Stalker22 on May 15, 2022, 01:19:58 PM
I wonder who's alt are these two wack slacker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1118537), int03h (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71475). though I have no evidence that they are actually an alt of someone. it's just weird that they suddenly woke up the same the new 1xbit signature campaign thread was posted.
~

Both are throwaway alt accounts, part of the same farm of spammers and bounty cheaters:
Nutildah's bounty cheaters & ban evaders thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335270.msg58036658#msg58036658)



Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: DireWolfM14 on May 15, 2022, 02:46:24 PM
They know that they have zero credibility to the forum users but still they are spending money. 1xbit is bigger now, they are spending millions in advertising through out every possible channel. I see them everywhere including TV sponsorships. How the fuck a group of scammers manage to do it with a level zero shame?

I think you're confusing 1xBet (which appears to be legitimate) with 1xBit.  They are not the same entity, and although there's speculation that they're affiliated, I doubt that too.  I suspect that the scammers behind 1xBit chose the name to take advantage of the recognition and fame of 1xBet.


My vote is that it's a honeypot trap setup by JollyGood.  ;D
Saves him the time of hunting down people who promote scams, they now come to him for tagging.

Lol.  If that's the case, his honeypot is only luring turds that have been painted red already.  Almost all the applicants already have red-tags, and only a few of them for promoting 1xBit previously.


But seriously, at this point does it even matter. If people think that they are not going to be the one getting hit by 1x not paying out then they will gamble there no matter what we say. What they are is not hidden....

That's the sad part; if they're still here, with the same name, pulling the same old stunts it means something is working.  Previous casino scammers would make a run for a few months, then change their name and try again.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Stalker22 on May 15, 2022, 03:42:44 PM
They know that they have zero credibility to the forum users but still they are spending money. 1xbit is bigger now, they are spending millions in advertising through out every possible channel. I see them everywhere including TV sponsorships. How the fuck a group of scammers manage to do it with a level zero shame?

I think you're confusing 1xBet (which appears to be legitimate) with 1xBit.  They are not the same entity, and although there's speculation that they're affiliated, I doubt that too.  I suspect that the scammers behind 1xBit chose the name to take advantage of the recognition and fame of 1xBet.


I really cannot believe there is still someone who believes that. From what I have seen, 1XBit is either an unlicensed version of 1XBET or an affiliate of 1XBET. I am not sure whether they are from the same owners or not. But I am sure that 1XBET controls all the important stuff. They may indeed be the whitelabel of 1XBET, but they cannot by any means be different entities.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: JeromeTash on May 15, 2022, 03:48:31 PM
Looks like it's just some random member or troll trying to see how the community will respond to the new campaign.

Moreover, 1xbit recently announced that they are ending their  Five Championships - Five Bitcoins Signature Campaign which is already on week 14
This is what the manager of the scam casino said

The signature campaign will run till week 15, and will end along with the Big 5 tournament. Before the said date, anyone can participate, and each bet has a chance to win a prize.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: SatoPrincess on May 15, 2022, 04:16:30 PM
Ixbit signature campaigners only care about the money the company pays them,, the credibility of the service the company provides is of no concern to them. They are not even concerned about getting a red tag for  participating in the famous scam campaign. 1xbit as become famous as a scam compaign, I find it hard to believe there's anyone on Bitcointalk who doesn't know it's a scam.

My vote is that it's a honeypot trap setup by JollyGood.  ;D
Saves him the time of hunting down people who promote scams, they now come to him for tagging.
Very good strategy.....attract all the ants with sugar and eliminate them.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: DireWolfM14 on May 15, 2022, 04:24:46 PM
They know that they have zero credibility to the forum users but still they are spending money. 1xbit is bigger now, they are spending millions in advertising through out every possible channel. I see them everywhere including TV sponsorships. How the fuck a group of scammers manage to do it with a level zero shame?

I think you're confusing 1xBet (which appears to be legitimate) with 1xBit.  They are not the same entity, and although there's speculation that they're affiliated, I doubt that too.  I suspect that the scammers behind 1xBit chose the name to take advantage of the recognition and fame of 1xBet.

I really cannot believe there is still someone who believes that. From what I have seen, 1XBit is either an unlicensed version of 1XBET or an affiliate of 1XBET. I am not sure whether they are from the same owners or not. But I am sure that 1XBET controls all the important stuff. They may indeed be the whitelabel of 1XBET, but they cannot by any means be different entities.

Please don't take this as an argument, I'm only asking out of honest curiosity; how can you be so certain?  I've never used either site, so I don't know, but are you saying they're using the same software?  I know there've been a lot of scam accusations against 1xBet too, but I figured that was just inherent in their line of work.  After a quick search, I now see that they've been banned by many countries for various abuses, they're even banned in their home country of Russia.  How does a scammer get banned in Russia?  Not greasing the right palms?

In response to BitcoinGirl.Club's comments, however it's worth making the distinction: It's 1xBet that is advertising on TV and at sports venues.  At least they used to.  They were one of the main sponsors of Barcelona FC a couple of years ago.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: logfiles on May 15, 2022, 04:52:23 PM
I think you're confusing 1xBet (which appears to be legitimate) with 1xBit.  They are not the same entity, and although there's speculation that they're affiliated, I doubt that too.  I suspect that the scammers behind 1xBit chose the name to take advantage of the recognition and fame of 1xBet.

There is evidence linking the two casinos and I don't think it's a coincidence. I just don't have enough time but dig it up I could help shed more light. 1xbet has so many scam accusations too, just like 1xbit. Yes they may have sponsored some teams and even got advertised on main stream media, but so were shitcoins like Ethereum Max that were even "backed" by our so-called Celebrities.

Here is one of them.... Wayback machine
They tried to erase it, but it's archived.

Let's go back in time a year after the beginning of the Russian scam casino: https://web.archive.org/web/20170603210023/https://1xbit.com/

When you scroll a bit down

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/ZqwHW.png

Google translated
Quote
Do you like sports but can't find a suitable site for the right bets? 1xBit is the site for you. Since 2007, we have been offering our clients the most exciting sports betting and casino games. We have a huge selection of games for all gambling lovers. Have fun fighting our live dealers, spinning slots and enjoying other games.

Sign up to 1xBit and have an amazing gaming experience.

What does that highlighted sentence say about 1xbit?
Wait, which year was 1xbet founded again?  :D


Both companies are owned by 1x Corp. N.V though they don't want to admit it. I remember one time I sent a message to 1xbet support asking them if they are affiliated to 1xbit. They simply just told me "to base" on my Google search results for my answer and immediately closed the chat.  ;D

If a business is legit, why are they acting so guilty? Why not at least just say, "we don't know them"?
https://www.keytocasinos.com/online-casinos/owner/1x-corp-n-v

There is also a post showing that both casinos owned the same deposit addresses. Why would both casinos that are "different" share the same deposit addresses? I just can't locate it right now but when I come a cross it, I will share





Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Stalker22 on May 15, 2022, 07:35:14 PM
Please don't take this as an argument, I'm only asking out of honest curiosity; how can you be so certain?  I've never used either site, so I don't know, but are you saying they're using the same software?  I know there've been a lot of scam accusations against 1xBet too, but I figured that was just inherent in their line of work.  After a quick search, I now see that they've been banned by many countries for various abuses, they're even banned in their home country of Russia.  How does a scammer get banned in Russia?  Not greasing the right palms?

I understand what you mean, they are trying so hard to hide the facts (for some unknown reason). There is much more than just using the same software. I am certain there was a thread somewhere that showed all the evidence in one place, but I cannot find it right now. I will update this post when I find it.

Upon registering on both sites, the first thing I noticed was that they both share the same user IDs. In other words, if you register on second site just a couple of seconds after the first one, you will get a UID that follows the first one. While I did not take screenshots at the time, this is very easy to verify for anyone who wants to. This undoubtedly proves that both sites are using the same database; they only differ in the front end skin.

In addition, as logfiles mentioned, there is evidence (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58106716#msg58106716) that both sites use the same wallets for their deposits, and quite coincidentally, some of the wallets are titled "x1bit" and "x1bitpaygate".


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: DireWolfM14 on May 16, 2022, 02:40:19 PM
Well this is an interesting development; the official 1xBit account has refuted that the most recent campaign is there's.

Hello guys, this campaign doesn't belong to 1xBit and just partly copied-pasted from our original thread.

I don't know what's going on but someone is trolling the forum for one reason or another.  If this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5398617.0) was posted by a scam hunter as a honey pot to trap applicants, that's some pretty fucked up shit.  Who ever it is should be ashamed of himself.


Edit:  Added a type 1 flag to 1xbitpatnar's profile.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2961


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2022, 03:19:55 PM
It seems that this scam is not only causing spam on the forum but also trolls.

Another jerk, previously marked for cheating, opened the topic with an invitation to advertise 1xbit.com.
  
Perhaps his post can be assessed as plagiarism?

1xbit.com (https://1xbit.com/promotions/big-five/) is looking to advertise their new promotion BIG 5 - Five Championship-Five Bitcoins (https://1xbit.com/promotions/big-five/). To help spread the word we would like to hire users from Member to legendary rank (Mostly Hero/Legendary) to help us out. If you post frequently in Gambling boards, we want to hire you.


Spreadsheet he puts a link to the bounty from manager @CryptopreneurBrainboss

@JollyGood you have potential customers to receive negative feedback. ;D

  Any offer from this company, and consent to participate in it, looks like a litmus test for those who will be happy to advertise fraud.


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: decodx on May 16, 2022, 07:34:47 PM
I've seen some weird stuff in the past, but this is something else. Scam casino has been shamelessly running signature campaigns filled with spammers and scammers' alt accounts for months. And now we have trolls with fake campaigns... Is this forum heading in the wrong direction?


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Erdogan on May 16, 2022, 10:29:00 PM
I've seen some weird stuff in the past, but this is something else. Scam casino has been shamelessly running signature campaigns filled with spammers and scammers' alt accounts for months. And now we have trolls with fake campaigns... Is this forum heading in the wrong direction?


Cryptocurrencies give you financial freedom, Bitcointalk gives you freedom of speech.
What happens in this forum roughly mirrors what is happening in normal communities around the world.
Are you really surprised that someone just made fun of others and created a fake signature campaign?


Title: Re: Another 1xbit scammer with new service
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 16, 2022, 11:59:21 PM
Perhaps his post can be assessed as plagiarism?

1xbit.com (https://1xbit.com/promotions/big-five/) is looking to advertise their new promotion BIG 5 - Five Championship-Five Bitcoins (https://1xbit.com/promotions/big-five/). To help spread the word we would like to hire users from Member to legendary rank (Mostly Hero/Legendary) to help us out. If you post frequently in Gambling boards, we want to hire you.

His post in Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379630.msg58887732#msg58887732) at the beginning of this year was discovered to be directly plagiarised from @hd49728's post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379630.msg58890044#msg58890044) but no moderator bothered to ban the useless troll account that has no value in the forum except just spamming around.