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Title: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: NoNameOriginal on May 18, 2022, 01:08:38 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: jackg on May 18, 2022, 03:03:32 PM
I haven't heard of that and am not sure what it is but if you're trying to start with crypto and are not starting with bitcoin - either by: buying bitcoin from well reputed exchanges or finding ways to claim small amounts to test with (eg faucets) then you'll probably get off to a bad start.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: bitmover on May 18, 2022, 03:08:03 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)

I would say that it doesn't look good, and might not even be legit.

When you go to their website, the only thing you find is very basic informatoin about what is bitcoin. If you want to know more about what bitcoin smarter is, you need to give a lot of personal information: Full name, phone number and e-mail.

Requesting personal information without  reason is a terrible start.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: SFR10 on May 19, 2022, 07:27:51 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
I'm not sure which one you're referring to, but when I searched on google, I found a couple of them with different domain extensions, and even though they were both registered on exactly the same day [#1 (https://www.namecheap.com/domains/whois/result?domain=bitcoinsmarter.org) and #2 (https://www.namecheap.com/domains/whois/result?domain=bitcoin-smarter.com)], each one of them has a unique logo and somewhat different content [fishy]!

  • While I was searching for plagiarized content, I stumbled across a few other platforms that were using similar-looking themes!
    - Stay away from these types of trading tools, unless it's reputable.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: tranthidung on May 20, 2022, 01:52:01 AM
is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?
You should compose your post better in format, with appropriate space between sentences ie.

If you have Bitcoin and store in in a non-custodial wallet, you have full control of your coin. You don't have to submit request for withdraw your coin to exchange, third party and wait for their approval (in bad case, they can reject your withdrawal request or suspend/ ban your account).

What is non-custodial wallet?
  • It's wallet with which you will be given private key or mnemonic seed of your wallet. It means you can use it to recover your wallet on other devices anytime.
  • Else, if you store your coin on exchange, the saying goes "Not your keys, not your coins"
  • Read more
    • Custodial vs. Non Custodial Wallets - "Not your keys, not your coin" Explained. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173370.0)
    • [Guide] Secure air-gapped crypto wallet storage method] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828437.0)
    • [Guide] Secure air-gapped crypto wallet storage method (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828437.0)
    • When you create a new wallet, let's create it when you are offline. Always practice wallet backup and recovery
    • How to lose your Bitcoins with CTRL-C CTRL-V (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190776.0)
    • Lot of guides are given in that topic (in Bitcoin section) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4928968.0)
    • Electrum is one of non custodial wallet. Safely download Electrum wallet (verify it) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240594.0)


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: mk4 on May 20, 2022, 03:04:56 AM
They way they do their SEO alone looks like they're super amateur, or they're trying to lure newbies. I'm guessing both.

https://i.imgur.com/5seMfnU.png

Rule of thumb: always use reputable platforms with anything concerning money. You literally have nothing to win and everything to lose when trying out the more 'unknown' exchanges.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: noorman0 on May 20, 2022, 06:24:06 AM
They way they do their SEO alone looks like they're super amateur, or they're trying to lure newbies. I'm guessing both.
I also tried googling and found the top 3 sites in search results claiming they are both "official". But both use the same user interface.
Code:
bitcoinsmarter.org/
bitcoin-smarter.com/
the-bitcoin-smarter.com/

Rule of thumb: always use reputable platforms with anything concerning money. You literally have nothing to win and everything to lose when trying out the more 'unknown' exchanges.
Another rule: no get-rich-quick schemes are offered to beginners unless it would be otherwise.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: odolvlobo on May 20, 2022, 09:34:45 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)

It is a scam. Don't send them any money.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: Taskford on May 20, 2022, 09:41:37 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)

I didn't also hear this platform before is this offering some good returns if you invest any amount on them? Since if that's the real case then you should avoid those platform which offer to good to be true profit because this is pure bullshit and may end up scam if you are not familiar with investments escpecially on crypto better search what's ponzi scheme all about and you will learn more things about that scheme and be help to avoid getting scam by any jerks wandering around here.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: Stalker22 on May 20, 2022, 09:48:49 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)

It is a scam. Don't send them any money.


Considering we do not know which website it is, this may seem to be an aggressive claim. However, history has taught us that you are probably right.

OP, if they ask you money, it is best to stay away from such a site until you learn more about it. It might help to post a few more details here so we can make a more accurate judgment. And remember, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Take care.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: Baofeng on May 20, 2022, 09:53:07 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)

Is this a trading tool or app? If it is then as newbie, it is not even recommended to use it because obviously you don't even have the basic experience to do manual trading, what's more using a tool that is going to be very difficult to use for a beginner. So my advise is, regardless if it is legit or scam, is to stay away from it and learn and understand how crypto trading works and gain some experience first.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 20, 2022, 09:56:12 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???
It's scam unless if you are itching to get scammed

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is it safe?
Nope
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is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?
Anybody telling you this is lying to you and trying to lure you to make a deposit that you will never get back.

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does it sound too good to be true?
Yes, too good to be true. This is why you should avoid it at all costs.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: batang_bitcoin on May 20, 2022, 10:43:57 PM
First time of hearing that. @OP follow what everyone has said, we've been too many experiences and seen a lot of exchanges turned into a scam and most of them were unheard and new.
Just like what everyone has told you, this is an unheard exchange and we've got plenty of those that are reputable and trusted for years of their operation so, leave that exchange.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: khaled0111 on May 21, 2022, 12:15:08 AM
Just by reading their definition of bitcoin and how it works you would know they have no idea what they are talking about and that they have no clue what bitcoin is. They probably copied few sentences from different sources, paraphrase it then put it together.
Do you really believe they are capable of developing a AI trading bot!
This is definitely a scam and you should stay away from it if you don't want to lose your money.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: Ale88 on May 21, 2022, 03:52:50 AM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???is it safe?is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?does it work for an absolute beginner?does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)
I have no idea about what bitcoin smarter is but I have this feeling that the smartest thing to do is staying away. Anyway I'm not sure if you're here just to promote it in some weird way or if your question is actually legit.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: Flexystar on May 21, 2022, 06:36:05 AM
There are deceptive sites of same address which means it could be harmful to even try it out. There are already sites with hyphen and dash with same address so it’s definitely made with clear mindset of luring people. Moreover the name is also very funny, what does it even mean bitcoin smarter? Would have been easy to understand if its Smart Bitcoiner. Lolz. Just be normal mate, have trusted sources to store, exchange, transact and use bitcoin rather than going for anything like this. It’s unknown, there no single positive comment about it.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 21, 2022, 11:54:26 AM
I never heard about bitcoin smarter. Is that real or fake?

Wait wait, is that a coin or a service or a wallet or what? But as @mk4 said, that is about robot trading so I do not recommend you to use it. It is better you use your own skills while you learn more about trading so you can increase your skills step by step and not depend on the robot.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: glendall on May 21, 2022, 02:20:01 PM
bitcoin smarter? just heard me
after I read the reply from mk4 you better stay away from that platform, it's still very new and there is no significant trust from bitcoin lovers
avoid that platform if you don't want to lose


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: Coin BTC on May 21, 2022, 06:13:33 PM
Hello.what about bitcoin smarter???
I've never heard of it, it doesn't sound very good, and it also seems very unconvincing, but this is from my own point of view, there may be more to it I'm not aware of.

is it safe?
as I said above this is not very convincing, so in my opinion it is not safe to do, I can say this is a ban, and don't try it because it really doubts you of course.

is it real u can withdraw your money anytime u want?
really not even really not recommended, my advice if you want to start crypto is to start well, and don't start with a faucet, it will be very bad for you later.

does it work for an absolute beginner?
not really, you shouldn't do it and start playing crypto well, of course from Bitcoin.

does it sound too good to be true?
Thanks! ::)
like my answer above, this doesn't sound like a very good thing to do, it's better and more precisely you and even other people should not do that.


Title: Re: Beginner-bitcoin smarter
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2022, 07:08:14 PM
SCAM

the scam is simple.
set up 3 websites. call them all official.

next step is to be vague about the offering until you hand them funds/identity. thats the 'hook' because once you hand them something, they have you. you are less likely to escape.
this is a known business strategy. if they have your name email and know something about you. you are more likely to be interested in reading more about them/buy something from them.
also they sell your info. knowing that even if your not a complete idiot to invest yet. just by handing info means your a potential idiot that can potentially fall for scams. and scammers like these types of people so will share this database of idiot lists.

next step is to offer you a dream return on a small amount as their fake way of proving they make you profit. this is the next 'hook' to stab and pull you in. because once you have invested something small, you are more likely to invest more.

when they eventually steal your main excessive funds the other 2 sites say THEIR 3rd site is not theirs and not their fault. making you lose funds with no recourse. making you the person at fault by blaming you for using a site that is shady(even if they all are)

and trying to prove they are linked and try to get returns via a court claim, is costly. which is why most scammers try to avoid scamming for more than $10k per victim. because if its less than $10k but a court case would cost more then $10k most victims dont bother taking things to court. and thats their strategy