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Title: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Davidvictorson on June 02, 2022, 02:38:13 PM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: mk4 on June 02, 2022, 02:41:25 PM
Bitcoin isn't guaranteed to follow the 4-year cycle thingy, and that at some point it will take longer (probably more than 2x longer than usual) for bitcoin to reach new all-time highs.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Despairo on June 02, 2022, 03:02:09 PM
1. Don't invest in Bitcoin if you didn't know anything about it.
2. There's no guarantee if Bitcoin price always increase like the previous history and reaching new ATH.
3. Don't teach anyone about Bitcoin except your close family, in case you didn't sold all your Bitcoin to fiat and want to let your child to continue your Bitcoin journey.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: NeuroticFish on June 02, 2022, 03:14:15 PM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?

In the same way Bitcoin can eventually reach $1M, it can also eventually fall to 0.
No matter how much we trust bitcoin, on this world, the only certain thing is that everything (including this world) will eventually turn into nothingness.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: FatFork on June 02, 2022, 03:47:50 PM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?

It's important to remember that if you lose your Bitcoin private keys or seed phrase, you'll also lose all the bitcoins you have in your wallet. This is often the biggest threat to your coins, because in case you lose access to your wallet, there is no way to recover them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Oluwa-btc on June 02, 2022, 04:22:41 PM
Ain't no wise decision to force folk's too invest in Bitcoin.
Everything good will come to an end one day, but before that comes, enjoy the benefits/ liberty Bitcoin gives you.
Thanks  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Doan9269 on June 02, 2022, 04:41:21 PM
we should not be over anxious about our investments in bitcoin or cryptocurrency because what will be will definitely be, then why the panic for nothing but only cause a rise in bp, we are expected to be patient for the time of maturation to come upon our investment, you plant today on the field and go home to rest and wait for growth to occur and lastly, we should always learn to do crypto all by ourselves.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: mk4 on June 02, 2022, 05:30:33 PM
we should not be over anxious about our investments in bitcoin or cryptocurrency because what will be will definitely be, then why the panic for nothing but only cause a rise in bp, we are expected to be patient for the time of maturation to come upon our investment, you plant today on the field and go home to rest and wait for growth to occur and lastly, we should always learn to do crypto all by ourselves.

Funnily enough, that's actually a popular opinion. Bitcoin and most especially other cryptocurrencies aren't guaranteed to increase and can easily go the other way; like what NeuroticFish said.

Also, it seems like people are misunderstanding the topic lol. Look up the meaning of "unpopular", folks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: BIT-BENDER on June 02, 2022, 07:25:05 PM
I don’t know if this is already said but don’t make your move on bitcoin or Bitcoin moves based off News, speculation, hype or what even emanates from social media, many have learnt this the hard way, you should always buy every details under the microscope and check them very well, you solely bare the outcome of your decision here, take it that every news you hear has a disclaimer from the peddler.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: JeromeTash on June 02, 2022, 09:07:00 PM
What goes up must come down at some point. So even when investing in bitcoin, It's a risky venture just like any other. One must not put all their eggs in one basket.
One thing I always tell people who ask me about buying Bitcoin is that they should also think about a scenario where when they buy Bitcoin, it drops in value. They should be mentally ready for the downtrend, too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 02, 2022, 09:24:54 PM
Bitcoin community is an echo chamber that largely repeats only the positive view of Bitcoin. If you spend all your time in Bitcoin community, you may start feeling that lots of people in the world use Bitcoin, that anything that happens in the world will make Bitcoin grow in its price, that it can only go up, that fiat money is on the verge of collapse and so on. But if you visit the outside world, you'll see that people don't know about Bitcoin, don't care about it or even hate it. That's it's nearly impossible to use it as a currency, because no one accepts it. That people don't want to risk holding a volatile currency or store of value, even if there's a good chance they will make a profit. That people don't want financial sovereignty, privacy, zero inflation if it means facing the downsides of Bitcoin - they'd rather stick to the banks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Cookdata on June 03, 2022, 12:01:19 AM
If you know you can't hold bitcoin for long term, please never start it, you may regret your action by buying high and selling low, that's the worst thing anyone can do. Bitcoin holding is very rewarding for long term, sometimes short term also may count but I prefer the first.
If you can't make security one of your priorities, there is no point in buying bitcoin, holding it and later give out freely to scammers because of carelessness, your security should be your top priority, don't lose guard else you may becomes victim of Bitcoin loss.
Lastly, let your investments remain private, there's no points in trying to prove that you hold bitcoin or crypto, you are putting your life at stake, the world is wicked, nobody to be trusted these days.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on June 03, 2022, 05:48:44 AM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?
They said there is no such thing as forever. But as I knew bitcoin, I think there is an exemption on that phrase now. Bitcoin will forver exist even 100years from now. As Satoshi makes it a decentralized system wherein no one can even interfere. Regardless its current value no one would ever take away your bitcoin holdings as long as you ar enot getting hype.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: FatFork on June 03, 2022, 06:28:34 AM
What goes up must come down at some point.
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Does the other way around also apply?  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: KingsDen on June 03, 2022, 07:44:50 AM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?
  • Incase bitcoin investment fails you or disappoints you by going dip against your portfolio, remember bitcoin is first a currency before it's an investment asset
  • Hey newbie! We are late to the game, don't expect that bitcoin will make you reach tomorrow. Wait for years and you will enjoy
  • If you are a bitcoin hodler, an investment in other coins is not diversification


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: mk4 on June 03, 2022, 01:20:14 PM
Incase bitcoin investment fails you or disappoints you by going dip against your portfolio, remember bitcoin is first a currency before it's an investment asset

I'd actually say that it's the reverse. :P For bitcoin to be a better and more viable currency, it needs to go through a long painful speculative/investment phase first. And when we're at the point of bitcoin having a good amount of liquidity to the point that it's going to be pretty difficult to pump/crash the price, then it will be a far better and more viable currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: qwk on June 03, 2022, 01:35:02 PM
Not so much "unpopular opinions" but rather inconvenient truths:
- as a monetary system, Bitcoin is not limited to 21 Million (the network itself is)
- the fact that satoshi, an unknown, possibly hostile entity, holds a sizable share of coins, is a ticking time bomb
- 51% attacks as a means of "regulation" could become a common reality in the future, if government interference leads to control over a majority of miners


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: PrivacyG on June 03, 2022, 01:42:24 PM
Governments are still not happy about Bitcoin but rather pretend they appreciate and support its existence.  I personally say it is a little bit foolish to believe Bitcoin is truly entering a phase of general acceptance.  They rather did their homework for the past decade and now try their hardest to find alternative ways to destroy Bitcoin's core principles.

The 'decentralized' part of how Bitcoin works is going to become somewhat illegal in a matter of years.  You can still use Bitcoin peer to peer but you can also clearly see a shrinkage of the right of using it this way without getting the 'Suspect' label on your forehead and it is getting increasingly harder to avoid third parties and intrusive procedures of identification.

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Regards,
PrivacyG


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Welsh on June 03, 2022, 01:54:45 PM
I have a few:

- Bitcoin is too difficult for mass adoption, whether that's as a mainstream currency or a reserve fund type currency.

- While having the freedom to be your own bank, it doesn't suit everyone, and could present problems if mass adoption ever did occur.

- the fact that satoshi, an unknown, possibly hostile entity, holds a sizable share of coins, is a ticking time bomb
That's based on speculation which has yet to be proven. You might be right, but I don't think we can label this a truth until it's in fact a truth.

- 51% attacks as a means of "regulation" could become a common reality in the future, if government interference leads to control over a majority of miners
Potentially, although the cost justification would be huge. I guess as less miners are mining in the future, due to no more block rewards, then it's probably more of a possibility. However, that's so far away, I'm not going to be around to see it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: mk4 on June 03, 2022, 02:21:58 PM
- the fact that satoshi, an unknown, possibly hostile entity, holds a sizable share of coins, is a ticking time bomb

Depends what you specifically mean by "ticking time bomb", but if it's the case that Satoshi dumped the coins in one go(which isn't smart to start with) — sure the price will crash undoubtedly, but it's also undoubtedly going to be a temporary event. If anything, I'd be drooling to buy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: DireWolfM14 on June 03, 2022, 02:42:05 PM
Welsh just beat me to the punch by mentioning the technical difficulties that most people are likely to experience if they want to use bitcoin.  I would like to see more user-friendly applications and devices make safety, security, privacy easier to attain for the less technically skilled (like my mom.)

The other issue that I think some newbies have a hard time accepting is that bitcoin transactions are not reversible.  Obviously it's a safety feature on one side of the transaction, but since most consumers have become used to being coddled by big banks, they just assume that they can change their minds about a purchase after the fact.  That mentality needs to be reversed.

- the fact that satoshi, an unknown, possibly hostile entity, holds a sizable share of coins, is a ticking time bomb

It's been so long since that pile of coins has been touched, I think it's safe to assume that those coins may never move.  If I'm wrong about that, those coins account for less than 5% of the total supply.  Still a significant amount, and they could cause panic if they were all to be dumped at once, but again I have my doubts about that ever happening.

- 51% attacks as a means of "regulation" could become a common reality in the future, if government interference leads to control over a majority of miners

This is probably the most concerning of issues that faces bitcoin.  A wealthy, rouge, government could decide to attack the network for a variety of reasons.  It's impractical to expect everyone who owns bitcoin to contribute to mining, but that would be a practical preventive measure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Welsh on June 03, 2022, 02:51:28 PM
Welsh just beat me to the punch by mentioning the technical difficulties that most people are likely to experience if they want to use bitcoin.  I would like to see more user-friendly applications and devices make safety, security, privacy easier to attain for the less technically skilled (like my mom.)
Right. Even securing Bitcoin probably needs to become a little easier. I do believe that hardware wallets have brought us leaps, and bounds in terms of ease of use. However, there's an additional cost to that, whereas a lot of people will not want that additional expense.

Even if we say that's their problem, really we should be considering it our problem since adoption means making it as easy as possible to not only understand, but to access the most secure ways, without actually understanding security to a good level. Fiat you currently can do that, at the expense of a third party. I imagine in a decade or so, banks will be offering their services for Bitcoin, at least the security aspect. Now, for me personally I would never entertain the idea of using a bank for the majority of my wealth again, but I have to admit some people will probably benefit from it.

The other issue that I think some newbies have a hard time accepting is that bitcoin transactions are not reversible.  Obviously it's a safety feature on one side of the transaction, but since most consumers have become used to being coddled by big banks, they just assume that they can change their minds about a purchase after the fact.  That mentality needs to be reversed.
Yeah, I'm not sure we're ever going to overcome that mentality. Humans like convenience, and the non reversible aspect of Bitcoin only really appeals to certain types of people. I guess what we could see in the future is a organisation which has a large share of the network, which offers a chargeback service by trying to reverse transactions that have been made fraudulently. I mean, I think we're starting to get into tin foil hat territory there as the costs wouldn't likely justify it, but that might play a part in the justification for having a large network share.  

It's impractical to expect everyone who owns bitcoin to contribute to mining, but that would be a practical preventive measure.
Not even because of the cost in doing so (which I'm ignoring for now), but the fact that you're then raising the bar for accessibility since mining takes a bit of knowledge to get going.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Franctoshi on June 03, 2022, 03:25:18 PM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?


Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency ecosystem reconceptualizes how money is being transferred, spent and invested.
if you can stomach the volatility of Bitcoin and look at the overall performance when compared to other asset over the past years, Bitcoin is a safe heaven.
Invest wisely as this new digital money system is swift and revolutonal, therefore it also comes with huge risk.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: qwk on June 03, 2022, 04:37:33 PM
- the fact that satoshi, an unknown, possibly hostile entity, holds a sizable share of coins, is a ticking time bomb
That's based on speculation which has yet to be proven.
That's nitpicking ;)
At the same time, it doesn't really matter for the argument wether satoshi's million BTC are true or not.
The mere fact that it is unknown yet likely is enough for it to be a destabilizing factor.
Which in turn could lead to countermeasures in the form of regulation, which in turn could lead to 51% attacks "by the government".

Scenario: a major bank / hedge funds in the US decides to invest in BTC on a large scale, even if only on behalf of its customers.
Funds are being setup, bonds issued, CFDs prepared, loans given on the collateral of swaps of those CFDs on bonds of funds, you get the idea.
Sooner or later, the whole thing becomes "too big to fail", because - greed & Wall Street.
Now, for whatever reason, a rumor appears that satoshi might just be an evil foreign power, and the whole financial house of cards is about to come crashing down.

There's a "simple" remedy for this: censor satoshi's coins.
How is that possible? Easy. If you control 51% you can roll-back any transaction with these coins.

There's your scenario with a non-zero likelihood of happening where satoshi's coins, even without being moved at all (or even being his in the first place) could lead to 51%-attack-capability* on behalf of "the government" / "Wall Street".
How likely is that scenario?
I honestly don't know.

* 51%-attack-capability is basically what you need to prevent unwanted transactions from happening. If you control 51%, no-one will issue a transaction that you would censor anyway. There's a downside to this: you will need to keep up your 51%-attack-capability indefinitely.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Welsh on June 03, 2022, 05:17:40 PM
That's nitpicking ;)
I didn't say I wasn't nitpicking :D.

The mere fact that it is unknown yet likely is enough for it to be a destabilizing factor.
Which in turn could lead to countermeasures in the form of regulation, which in turn could lead to 51% attacks "by the government".

Now, for whatever reason, a rumor appears that satoshi might just be an evil foreign power, and the whole financial house of cards is about to come crashing down.
Alright, I see the angle you're coming from. That's quite possibly true. I mean, I've always said I'd rather not find out who Satoshi is, because there definitely have been accusations of who they may have been, and actually confirming any of that could potentially cause issues for Bitcoin. You know, if there's an accusation that he's a criminal, and then that's proven correct, I can see that being an issue.


There's a "simple" remedy for this: censor satoshi's coins.
How is that possible? Easy. If you control 51% you can roll-back any transaction with these coins.
What do you mean by censor? Like completely remove them from the network or redistribute them somehow? Not sure I would agree with either, I mean who gives us the right to touch someone else's coins, regardless how inactive or how problematic they could be?

I'm not saying you're wrong though, that's just my personal view point. I'm sure many people would actually advocate for doing something with Satoshi's coins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Zlantann on June 03, 2022, 07:44:20 PM
Investing in Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme. It's not a Ponzi scheme like most folks in my country think. It's like investing or holding a currency because you have confidence it it's future. You must be patient and courageous to venture into it. Don't you use your entire income or savings to invest in it because no currency is prone to volatility. Also invest the amount you can handle when the unimaginable happens. But generally Bitcoin is one of the safest, cheapest and most reliable means of payment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: SatoPrincess on June 03, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
I think people don’t really understand the concept of vitality when it comes to bitcoin. There is a misconception that the price of bitcoin cannot go below a certain amount. I don’t know where they derive this, maybe from Bitcoin price history. I’m of the opinion that bitcoin can get to $0 as easily as the price of bitcoin can get to $100k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: JeromeTash on June 03, 2022, 09:56:20 PM
Does the other way around also apply?  ;D
The other way round could apply for a few things. Maybe Bitcoin price can be one of them and some popular male organ, but certainly not for most shitcoins  ;D

Having seen documentaries of how towns, cities or communities would grow from zero to the highest level of activity due to a Gold rush or some precious mineral in the area and then back to near zero once the mineral either got exhausted or people moved on to the next "Gold rush" I came to peace with what might happen to crypto space in the future. Maybe people will lose interest, Maybe people will move onto the next "big thing"

I mean look at coal today, Imagine what it was like during the industrial revolution  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: qwk on June 04, 2022, 07:20:07 AM
There's a "simple" remedy for this: censor satoshi's coins.
How is that possible? Easy. If you control 51% you can roll-back any transaction with these coins.
What do you mean by censor? Like completely remove them from the network or redistribute them somehow?
As explained above: roll-back each and every transaction coming from the addresses you want to censor.
They still "have" their coins, and they will be able to spend them once you stop censoring them.

In general, as long as you control 51% of the mining capacity, you can roll-back any transaction originating from any number of "blacklisted" addresses, and thereby "censor" them.
It's not easy, it's not cheap, but if you want to stop somebody from spending their coins, it can be done.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: GeorgeJohn on June 04, 2022, 10:29:37 AM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?
It's very obvious that what causes the down fall of newbie in any steps they make in cryptocurrency is lack of information, directly to the point. Newbies have to make a positive research of a particular coin before investing. Actually in due circumstances, we don't have to purchase a coin when the price length is the accelerating motion, and any coin that you want to hold or holding should be coin that have volatility and can not be eliminated in the market with degradation of price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Stalker22 on June 05, 2022, 09:56:52 AM
What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?

My unpopular opinion is the mining aspect of Bitcoin. I understand that it is necessary for the PoW algorithm, but I really think it is energy inefficient and wasteful. It is not something I would necessarily share with newbies but I do really think we should move beyond the miners.


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: PrivacyG on June 05, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
- Bitcoin is too difficult for mass adoption, whether that's as a mainstream currency or a reserve fund type currency.
Can we agree this might only be a temporary issue though?  Bitcoin is going to be so much easier to understand by the time today's newborns are of our age.  Think of it like smart phones.  How many people in their 30s and older struggled with learning how to use a smart phones versus how many kids did.  Technology is interesting for kids.  And when they know they can make money for video games, they will learn so much quicker.

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Regards,
PrivacyG


Title: Re: Bitcoin 101: Share an Unpopular Opinion you hold about Bitcoin with Newbies
Post by: Mpamaegbu on June 06, 2022, 01:50:52 PM
on this world, the only certain thing is that everything (including this world) will eventually turn into nothingness.
That will truthfully be supporting the theory of apocalypse and rightly so. There's so much evil in the world today. About the $1M mark for Bitcoin, I'm of the opinion that isn't likely to happen. This is because I believe with time in the near future, Bitcoin will lose steam to maintain that number one spot. Perhaps, that's the only unpopular view I've of Bitcoin at the moment.