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Would you be willing to support anyone who gives the most accurate forecast of Bitcoin/crypto price?

I mean If you find someone who could make you rich by accurately predicting the price of crypto for you and others to benefit from, will you support such person either by sharing part of your profits from your successful trades with him/her, or in other ways... Will you agree if you are asked to support him/her?
If yes, then be prepared to support him as Bitcoin gradually moves to 50,000 from now onwards, but if you don't support or your answer is no, Bitcoin/crypto could remain stagnant below 40,000.

Are you ready?
Current Bitcoin price 30,000
https://i.imgur.com/2hN3IRB.jpg

Nope, because someone who can actually make good market "predictions" has no business in helping some random person on an online forum.

Well, my friend I care alot about you and others. I wouldn't still be here if I didn't.
Anyway, we could use this to prove who currently controls the market. My reputation is on the line

I shouldn't be interested in this form of "support", because:

- Anyone that is so able to do this prediction should use it at its own advantage and not share with someone here on the forum.

- If you also use this sort of "competence" you shouldn't need someone's help to share your business.

First of all, i don't think anyone can predict correctly about the crypto price movement. It will always be unpredictable no matter what. So i don't see myself supporting an individual and even share my profits with him.

Bitcoin will gradually reach $50k with or without those pretending people. We just have to wait for it and trust the process.

I already do pay people to manage funds but thats mainstream main market dealing of normal stocks and commodities.   For crypto I think its far more volatile and disruptive as its still the wild west compared to the main economy which has been there for centuries.      Theres always the chance I take some fund where the manager decides to hold crypto, thats his choice vs regulation and all the other factors but I trade my own crypto and I also bet it when I want, I dont need a manager really.
  It might be more relevant to high worth people who have a company registered that can handle this all, companies can back date losses (vs tax) across six years and this is advantageous but me as a sole person nope.

You can't really trust other people's predictions and analysis because basically the capital you use in the market is real money "not demo". We can't trust random people to say that you should invest in asset A or B all the time because trading is not gambling. The point is you have to have your own way to get profit although you can also take advantage of other users' predictions to support your analysis.

I wouldn't easily trust other people's random predictions, this is never the best advice for people. Of course people would avoid this way of making a profit because no service really predicts market prices accurately and may not be worth considering. But wait, which people are you referring to?

Im not a fan on following someone when it comes on making out some predictions yet we know that this is something not assured nor precise but lets put up on the situation to be real on having someone
able to have some good profitable winning trades which you do follow and make you money.Hmm i might consider on giving out support but that would really be on such consideration
whether you do see if its worth to appreciate ones work or tips or not.Not all people does have that kind of behavior or gesture on showing off some  gratitude on someone
who had helped them.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to support anyone, anyone can make their prediction and what makes him so different with others? And I don't believed that someone can make it accurate, unless he has the crystal ball to see the future.

And if he can do that, then it's better to keep it for and make himself rich. Maybe it's just that he got lucky or just a coincidence that he make a good prediction and hit it on the market.

Looks like he's a big whale that he can easily manipulate the market. But even so, i would not support anyone that claims to be more knowledgeable and powerful than us. I prefer to do it on my own so that if i lose, i don't have to blame on it to someone. And whether i lose or make profits in the crypto market, that's part of my experience that will make me a good trader or investor in the making.

Well, the question is "if there is someone who could really do it"? Because what I certainly know is that nobody has been consecutively doing the closest prediction ever. Remember that the market is known for its unpredicted trend. And if to say someone does, have we ever thought that he could go in public telling people his prediction is right and always right? He/she had rather keep themselves and become rich with that. And I also think that nobody would ever believe him/her.

Bitcoin price will grow up when it will grow, no one can predict it accurately.

As I understand, it seems you wanted the Bitcoin price to go pump and dump but that is not how it will work. 
If he believes in that price, I appreciate it but don't force other people to believe your prediction because each of us has a different perception of Bitcoin price and I stand for it that Bitcoin price is unpredictable.

I have no problem with supporting somebody who made me earn big. But it has to be established first. I cannot just give you money because you predicted Bitcoin's price to reach $50,000 soon. That's expected. I also don't give you money by simply warning me that the market is going to experience some bear moments soon. That happens all the time.

I will only share my profit if it is particular trade calls that you are sharing. For example, you told me to place a bid order at $1,750 - $1,800 for ETH and then a day or two later you also told me to sell it at $2,400 - $2,500 because a correction is due and that it is safe to buy it back at $1,900. If not this kind of calls, I shouldn't be supporting you.

Lol I'm tired in supporting them all , as their prediction never come to reality since then , sometimes those random prediction got the chance to get closer to the prices lol.
and also why need to support? what can i contribute in His predictions?
I rather not to instead will continue my Holding for long term as it is the safest and the best action towards a dumping market like now.

No offense broski, but no one would really care if you're right or wrong. Anyone who can actually predict markets is sitting silently making money on his/her own, not posting on forums trying to prove himself/herself to some random pseudonymous people online.

^Also, even if you end up being right with this trade, it doesn't prove anything. You're making a bet with 3 potential results. 33.33%.

I have to say, I do not trust any person that says that the price will be "exactly x when we hit Y date" because that is not a sustainable thing. Certainly you can say one right now and be right, hell do it 10 times and be right 10 times, but when you hit long term, it is not going to be true.

Moreover, we are talking about supporting someone who didn't risk anything, and wants to take a cut from the profits, and not taking any responsibility if there is a loss. I would be willing to share 10% of my profits, if that person is willing to give 10% of my losses back, would that person be able to do that? I doubt so, hence why I believe that it is not really a good deal.

Ask yourself this. If this person is so great at making predictions why doesn’t he just trade himself. You got 100x leveraged exchanges out there so there is no need to borrow money these days.

This is proof why many of those signal services are scams. Because why charge people $20 a month when they can make millions from trading themselves. Makes no sense but people keep falling for this.

Why not?  We sometimes donate to superchat on youtube because we agree to what the influencer is saying, I guess I can share but perhaps so much. Some of these people who predict accurately does create a telegram channel which asked already for subscription. Someone has to vouch for him though. He has to make a name in the community.

Uhm no. I'd rather just say give me a flat amount of money instead of asking him to give me an "accurate prediction" for the price of Bitcoin, cause let's be real, no matter how "accurate" your prediction is, it wouldn't be as accurate as you (if you agreed) on giving me the money straight up.

And honestly, the idea is pretty dumb since as others have said, the person themselves can do it instead of sharing it, which is much safer and well, easier. If money is the problem then go take a loan, I don't think that'd be a problem since it's an "accurate prediction" anw. And let's be real. The reputation of a random anon from the internet doesn't mean jack compared to the money I'd use to invest.

I certainly would not support someone who believes that changing their signature can influence the price of bitcoin:


And if we were referring to someone else who did not believe in this type of magic, neither would we, as nobody has superpowers and it is normal that someone who has predicted the price of bitcoin X number of times correctly is more a pure statistic, as with the number of people who make predictions every day, if we put the same number of monkeys to make predictions, some of them would also have long streaks of correct predictions.

https://prosperitythinkers.com/personal-finance/three-monkeys-and-cat-pick-stocks/

First of all, "accurately predicting" is nothing but a guesstimate. There are thousands of those predictions for any possible price and someone will simply end up predicting the correct price but that doesn't mean he knows what he is talking about or he knows more than the average person. I am not actively trading, but what little I know about is that it's all about possibilities and not about predicting the certain price.


Some people are just so good and only want to help others :D

Joke aside, there are legit companies that are trading for you and are very successful at it but those are certainly not contacting random people on the internet giving them price predictions.

Depend on the information he will bring and how will I react on that , because if i did not even benefit from this? then why would i need to support the prediction lol.

and also there are very few prediction in this dumping season that are  possible to come , most of them are either exaggerated or some are just a BS comment as nothing truly to believe in.

I'm not sure anyone can guess the exact bitcoin price in a time frame because bitcoin's movements no one knows. Maybe they can only guess while showing the results of their analysis but still, they don't know whether it will happen or just analysis. But you can provide support to him while studying the results of his analysis so that you can find a good time for you to buy and sell. But be careful using other people's analysis results because we don't know how he analyzes bitcoin movements.

Well the question stands as "The MOST ACCURATE" meaning atleast closest to the price bot nut exactly what is the price of it.
But do they really did the prediction by chances or by knowledge , Until now I am still asking if how a person can predict the price like that accuracy when the market is volatile and really depend in the demand and supply .
maybe they are just lucky? or there is something behind that we really dont understand.

Anyone with a good model and TA explanation is welcome and I support

Examples are:
BETI index
STF
PlanB curve
Log-log curve estimates
Etc.

Most people selling their TA are good in selling and not in trading...
Nobody is going to give you their golden goose...

To predict bitcoin or crypto in the future is not an easy task, and many try and many fail even those who are experts. But many of us want to know what will happen next and will go to great lengths to find out and do our own research and analysis which is sometimes more accurate or close.
and I personally don't really believe in the predictions of other people or experts because if I followed them and believed those predictions and ended up being wrong, I would definitely hate them for being wrong.
there's no need to do that and let the market move as it is, because in the long run with an indefinite period of time the market will bounce back, and it's just a matter of time and patience.

Too bad no one looked at the OP post history so maybe some things would be a little clearer. The OP is more than obviously looking for sponsors who would be willing to support (reward) him if he allegedly influenced the price of Bitcoin through his alleged actions on the forum. He claims that with his posts and certain signatures he can have an impact on the price - which is more than ridiculous.

As someone has already written, if the OP is so influential in moving the market then in the direction he wants, he would make a bunch of money and not sell fairy tales on the forum.

Before you comment, I suggest you read :

I'm open for sponsorship. You can only pay when you are profitable (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399502.msg60181284#msg60181284)
My Signature on Bitcoin price (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396744.msg60008904#msg60008904)

I really cannot understand this statement. To support whom so that the price would rally. You do not need an external voice to know that the price of BTCitcoin would rally, but you cannot find someone who could accurately predict the daily movements in any market, all you can have is some basic assumptions and that anyone who is involved in the market for a few years would understand.

I am not expecting any radical movement in the next two years and i am patient enough to wait till the next halving for the rally to start once again :P.

Why not? As long as he won't ask for an upfront payment, that is for me to believe that he is not a scammer and only after for my money but he might be legit as long as all of his predictions are accurate. Btc price doesn't depend on the hands or on the words of these predictors but btc price can move in any direction with or without subscription from other people. As of now there is no person yet that accurately predicts btc.

There are some which predict btc close to some of its value but from their next predictions, they can not guess the price correctly anymore. That is how hard to predict btc but it's fine, in fact I like this more better as it can give us a thrill and excitement.

Just so so
For, prediction is a prediction, someone may predict more reasonable and closed to the rate. And some other may also have it in other times or period.
Whatever the orediction, we should not believe them 100%, should we? Because we must also combine with our own knowledge to also analyze the market and pull the prediction

It's funny to think that one person could influence the market all that much. Even Elon tried to do that and still failed. Many say that he is the reason why doge got pumped, but that was just people using him, not the other way around. How do I know this? Do you remember the time he went on SNL and talked about dogecoin?

Well, the price dropped during that day when it aired, that should be clear indication that people are just using him and nothing more. I have to say that the best thing about this massive market that one person can't decide anything. And someone who is on a forum with a signature? Lol, that is impossible if anyone thinks like that.

Heh, yeah and the goodness of their hearts, naturally, leads them to this forum, where the best of the best of our species lend helping hands to the most-deserving, also who happen to come here ;)

And yes, there are definitely companies who make a living out of managed portfolios -- crypto ones though, tend to all do badly in bear markets (no surprise) though they perhaps to limit losses and help people not throw away everything. They're certainly not on this forum =D

We are, after all, a very small community if we consider only those who are not bounty hunters. I can’t say how many people visit the forum as guests, but I believe they would have acted much sooner by reading some posts from members who are far more experienced than from some random member who is obviously trying to catch some naive trader.

Now he can appear in this thread and say that the price has dropped because no one supported him, which of course is true - but as you say, if much more influential characters have failed, not even any random expert from this forum will succeed.

We will never know if they really have the ability to predict with the most accuracy. Even if they have it, they will not easily share the results of their analysis with the public. I think it is still difficult to accurately predict prices in the market because the market is constantly volatile and cannot be predicted accurately. Maybe we can only predict where the direction will move but getting how much will not be easy.

A person which can accurately predict what the market is going to do to the point you could become rich does not need support, believe me such a person would have investors trying to knockdown his door and give him their money anyway, such a person would not even need to promote himself as his clients would do so on their own, as it would be impossible for them to remain quiet about the huge profits they could be getting with such a person and not share that with other people which are looking for the very same thing.

Vast majority yes, but not all. After all, bear market is when you can see a difference between those who know what they are doing and those who are just riding the bull market as I think for a pro trader bear or bull market doesn't make a big difference when it comes to profit, all they need is some volatility. That's how I though that I was a good trader back in 2017 when I was buying various shitcoins that were all pumping but then 2018 came and I realized that I have no clue what I am doing and that trading is not for me so I switched to hodl mode and never looked back.

I learnt that lesson about a decade prior to getting into Bitcoin. Let's just say I happened to get into the money exchange business and it was doing pretty well (at the time Southeast Asia was just booming with 50 types of different digital money alternatives and you could turnover a small fortune several times a day, earn well at the smallest commissions).

Thinking it'd made an expert in forex, I dabbled and did really well -- just as gold was also doing incredibly well between 2004-2010, I thought I was a genius and put it all into forex.

Bear market struck a few years later and brought me down to earth.

Good thing though as I didn't need to go through such a period with Bitcoin, apart from a few gambles with shitcoin ICOs.

How all our journeys differ yet converge here at the holding point ;)

I’m not going to support and trust anyone other than myself. Knowing this market is so much unpredictable and definitely the playground of different scams, trusting anyone is like seeing your profits lose instantly. We all have our own knowledge in creating good market analysis so relying for someone won’t do us good and won’t make us better and professional traders in this type of industry.

and if in case, there is someone who can precisely predict the market, he will use it to his own advantage. why not use it to his own benefits if he has the upper hand in this market? i don't think he will be very open to public if he knows he can predict with high probability of winning the market.
and if someone is advertising that he can predict with high rate of getting it right, doubt its motive. he may be luring its potential naive victims to a promise of high profits.

I am sure some of these groups or individuals are just asking optional, not required. If their goal is just to help, they will not indeed ask required the people.
I also believe people who intend to help, will not spoon-feed the people, just like giving buy on x price, sell on y price, stop loss z price, it's like a signal, it's good but with explanation is better to like how it came up there.

I dont know if I can find someone who can make me rich by accurately predicting the price of crypto but if ever there is, and if support is what he just need then I can give it to him.

However we know there's no experts that can accurately predict the price and if ever there's someone who can really do that, probably he will use it to make himself rich. He would not think to share it others.

It is a gratitude to say thank you for serving as inspiration and something we should trust in the future, I cannot remember the first account i followed but it brings me profit almost double from my investment (though I am starting that time and it is just a small amount to gain)
so My answer is YES, I will support if the prediction is super close to what is the result per prediction.

Yeah in a bull market almost everyone you follow will make good calls. However how are those calls working out for you now. Most likely they stopped posting due to a string of loses.

Unless you were short in stocks or crypto you most likely lost money in 2022. So far it’s a brutal year and it seems we are nowheere near the bottom.

Most people you follow now don’t make money.

Welp, if that person who's going to offer me like this offer. I'd be willing to bet for him if I can see that he's living the life with his wins and he's making well with his profits and managed to own several assets that he can prove to me.

Honestly, if someone who's been making predictions and doing well, he doesn't need to make such offers to anyone as he can keep it to himself and just make himself the richest.

Many predictions about the price of Bitcoin, at the end of 2022 then I see that there is a prediction that the price of Bitcoin will drop below 30k, when the price is around $ 45k, it turns out he predicts true, and in my opinion giving a few tips will certainly make him more excited, though We understand that the prediction is not always true but this will make him more active to find sources that support the predictions made.

True af. If his predictions are so up to the mark, then why the hell he is not making money himself and waiting for small shares from other’s profit.
Moreover while I invest, I always think that it’s my money, at the end of the day I will be making it into profits or losses, so why to bet my money on some random person’s calls?
If you lose by mistake, then you will just end up on swearing him.
So I don’t want to support any company or individual who does this type of ponzi schemes.
Let’s see what other people have opinions on this.

To hire unknown or random people to execute this function is indeed a very bad idea, but there are financial managers and advisors in traditional markets who offer their services to wealthy investors because it's profitable for them to earn comissions or wages over the investments of their customers. That is an extra income, besides the profit their make for themselves with their own money.

Not everyone can have access to these services, though, as it's expensive and limited. Anyway, in my opinion it's worthful to support or hire this kind of professional if you are a wealthy person and has many appointments on your daily life which don't allow you to dedicate yourself to investments for a long time of your day.

No. Because it’s impossible in this type of market to make the most accurate forecast, everything will fall into wild guesses or predictions. You may fall into another scam before you knew it so in order to avoid that, educate yourself more and never trust others to make good predictions for you. That way, they can never take advantage on you and will never make profits from you.

Prediction does not stand for something to be thankful because the reality ? most predictions brings losses to the people  and that is the true market flows .

I use to listen to the predictions here and there and now? i forgot  this belief and try to find my own way in what and how to invest , so supporting these people? no I will not participate on this part .

prediction is open and indeed some are fail some succeed but everything will always depend on how we deal on it and how we partake in the trading .

Didn't expect to the current Bitcoin price, until the end of May I was still buying Bitcoin when the price was around $ 32K and now it is more dropped and may be under $ 20K, some time ago it was in the telegram group that predicted there would be panic and now proven, but I hope this will not be long and Bitcoin can return to $ 35K.

I'm certain and guilty for not being convinced by anyone who MIGHT give an accurate forecast or prediction about Bitcoin. Are they really exist?
I can actually appreciate their works and luckily got the right (or at least close) to the predicted price but never I have to support them and even think that they could make it again. I'd just think and I know I was right that the market is unpredictable, nobody could change this.

In fact, I don't follow signal groups. And I have the reason why I can't, it is also possible the others will do the same.