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The topic of Russian aggression against Ukraine has been discussed for more than 3 months. Discussed by supporters of both sides, with different goals (of course, I am no exception)). But if at first I was mainly interested in the destruction of the terrorist invaders on my land (and this is only a matter of time), now I have begun to be interested in other issues that have emerged during these 100+ days of the terrorist attack on Ukraine. And those events that were the result of an attempt by a significant part of the world to put an unbridled terrorist country in its place (not Putin destroys Ukrainian cities and kills defenseless civilians, but ordinary Russians).

So, a few introductions.
1. The international system of stabilization or order turned out to be ... It turned out to be absolutely ineffective. More precisely, it turned out that on paper it is, but in reality - it is not!
The UN cannot bring in peacekeeping forces, or even take any decision against the aggressor country, because ... the criminal is against, and he has the right to veto such a decision! So let's give all criminals the right to veto police action (no arrest) and court decisions against him or his friends?
The Red Cross generally plays on the side of the aggressor and refuses to fulfill its functions.
The OSCE - half consists of representatives of the aggressor country, and they stupidly refuse to record the crimes of their country, and sabotage the work of others.
NATO, a military bloc created for defense, is AFRAID of a confrontation with an inadequate neighbor.
Why do we all pay constant fees, why do our taxes go to the maintenance of these useless structures. Moreover, these huge funds could give more effect if they were invested in really useful projects, and not for the maintenance of a herd of shiny people who are not responsible for anything and constantly conferring. Oh no, the maximum you can expect is "they will express concern" ...
No, I have no complaints, it's just that now the meaning of these structures is not at all clear.
In 1939 the world was the same, behaved the same way. History teaches nothing, it's a fact!

2. Another problem that is no less difficult is the world economy. Deep integration of all participants in the international market. It turns out they are not ready for a situation where one of the participants "breaks the roof", and he starts to do whatever he wants. And with such a participant, some believe it is necessary to "negotiate". Explanations - because "there are no other options", "he is the only supplier", and even agree to the legalization of his crimes ("just give them your land, they will calm down"). Here and the monopolization of markets, and corruption at the level of heads of state, and the lack of a well-thought-out plan of action for such cases. In a word, the world economy is not ready for such situations. Neither physically, nor financially, nor legally, in any way! And here the problem is not only in economic problems, but in the possibility of the flourishing of a new type of terrorism - economic. And the consequences of such terror can be worse than classic terrorist attacks.

3. A very bad precedent has appeared - contracts and obligations can be not fulfilled. Any ! Generally ! And there will be no consequences for this! The main thing is to lie a lot and constantly, for example, to pass off murders as salvation, seizure of territory for help, to constantly speak to the facts proving the commission of a crime by you - "it's not me!", etc. And the rest of the world has no leverage over such "partners".

4. Sanctions. On the one hand, a very good tool. And even efficient. But ! Returning to point 2, we see that some are simply not interested because of personal interests, someone hides behind the interests of the state and sabotages sanctions covertly or openly, someone accepts them "under pressure."
On the other hand, the sanctions are indeed a "double-edged sword" - and again, paragraph 2 showed that the market is not protected from stressful situations when one of the suppliers was given monopoly rights. And in the case of sanctions, many others begin to suffer.

5. In general, it turned out that the world is not ready for such situations. Not ready to defend the accepted norms and laws. Not ready to defend the suffering, not ready to repulse the aggressor. Not ready to play by the rules and build balanced markets where there are no monopolists and there are regulatory rules that everyone follows. They are not ready to fulfill their obligations at all. This applies to both individual politicians and countries, and international organizations, and even international unions of various types!

6. From the point of view of international security, and the security of individual countries, the current situation is the best gift for international terrorism! Yes Yes exactly ! The world has untied the hands of terrorists of any level with their own hands! Now they are well aware that the international community will turn its cowardly tail and whine and run into a corner if they are threatened with nuclear weapons, dirty bombs, terrorist attacks, etc. The modern world has relaxed and reacts to threats with cowardice, and not with actions.

It seems that the time has come for new alliances, with those who are ready to decisively, and not just in words, fight against international crime, take on obligations and fulfill them, even if it is not very convenient or profitable. Do not follow the lead of criminals, and do not be afraid to strike back, defending the honor of yourself and the one to whom you promised help.
Now I understand why Britain left the EU and why it will never return there.
The worst thing is that the world decided not to fight terror, but lowered its eyes, kneel before the aggressor, try to negotiate with him, indulging the aggressor in every possible way! Let me remind you once again - there has already been such a case in history, in 1939. And then the world lost 100 million lives!

I suppose that soon we will see a sluggish, but the collapse of many international institutions, and their replacement with local counterparts, but working. The world will no longer be the same as it was recently, most likely there will be several new, independent unions, decision-making centers and regional organizations of various orientations (political, economic, military).

How, in your opinion, will the current situation develop, what changes await us, what can we expect in the near future?

15 minutes is still not enough to absorb all the gist of all of the above Statements, but thanks for all the explanations.

But let me give a response about the current condition since the aggression started until now almost 3 months have passed starting from the first cycle then the second cycle and the third cycle then there are some stages that we have not seen that this aggression really makes a lot of people suffer. In terms of social and political economy, everyone feels very bad about the stability of a country, especially Ukraine itself.

NATO support and all European countries that provide support are generally reported in all media in the first month, but in the second month, uncertainty begins to arise because NATO countries need gas and oil supplies. Had to switch to alternate mode but not as effective as original. Production of goods was hampered so that NATO relented to submit and decided not to interfere in Russian affairs. Plus the threats made by Putin add to the sense of a loser to NATO, especially Biden.


When the strongest country is silent, then we who do not have a strong role can only convey the dream of justice in limited media. There was a peak in financial aid in the form of Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies held by Ukraine, but that also stopped after the uncertainty of the non-transparent flow of funds. But I believe all is allocated for medicine, combat equipment and also basic needs.


As a result, we are still busy improving our own micro-economy because we also need to survive in the midst of the onslaught of the western economy which reduces the supply of exports by reason of increasingly expensive and scarce costs.

What is the conclusion? Russia has become a country that cannot be stopped and stands with its back to NATO countries that have submitted to the interests of their respective countries.

Thanks for your reply. Agree with virtually everything!
I don't quite agree with the last sentence. More precisely, it simply states the fact of what happened.
And let's imagine that tomorrow North Korea, with the help of a well-known sponsor of terrorism, will create full-fledged ballistic nuclear missiles, aim them at Europe, the USA, Japan and your country!
And after that, it will declare that South Korea is its territory, and it will protect Korean-speaking citizens from the "decaying West" and because South Korea is clearly about to attack North Korea, because the whole world is jealous of North Korea's resources. And after the invasion, all of the above will begin to threaten with a nuclear strike, in case of interference in its "special operation to save South Korea."
Or the terrorist organization HEZBALLAH will get their hands on nuclear weapons or dirty bombs. Will he place them in your country, in the neighboring one and many others, and will demand to recognize it, to give it half of Europe, for example, and also that everyone pays tribute to them, and that every second born boy from your country is given to them to form terrorist troops?

I am sure you are categorically against such a scenario! This is logical! But now Russia was allowed to reach such a level, and now everyone is, to put it mildly, in shock. And the saddest thing is, some say it's okay, just accept their terms and they'll calm down.
I believe that this is absolutely impossible to allow, and when trying to implement such scenarios described above, the whole world must, with a united front (economically, politically, military force), destroy the source of such threats. The point is not even that my country is now being destroyed, the point is that now, in fact, all international agreements, values, rights, obligations have collapsed, and if the situation is not changed, it will end very badly.

Let's face it, Putin is an old man who is coming to the end of his life. Just in the last few days he has compared himself to Peter the Great and claims he wants to conquer more land for Russia. Every country deserves to be proud of parts of their history, but this war which has killed tens of thousands, is nothing but trying to build a legacy for Putin. He has achieved nothing for Russia in the last 22 years of power, so his last resort and act of distraction is to kill, rape and pillage other countries. It is a sick, sick ending and every Russian should be thoroughly ashamed of their government.

It was long, but i read all of it, i am sorry for what is happening in your country, but it is a difficult situation the rest of Europe, U.K and U.S are in now. One thing you must understand is that Ukraine is not a member of NATO, so other member countries of the organization under the NATO treaty do not recognize Ukraine as one of its members, and as a result, they are not bound to defend the territory of a non-member. UN on the other hand has as its duty peace and security, but it is achieved through mediation and settlement of dispute, and hardly through aggression, and you know every attempt to make Putin withdraw has not worked so far.

I understand everything you wrote, but if we are to be objective and take away our emotions, every independent nation has the sovereign right to defend its territory, which Ukraine is doing valiantly and courageously, and should any other external nation interfere, it means they are also ready to bring the war into their own country, and endanger their own citizens, it is as simple as that, and that is what every other country seems to be avoiding. If America for example gets involved physically, be rest assured that Russia would also respond, and other countries supporting Russia behind the scenes will too, and in less than a week it could be 4 or even 5 countries involved now. Of America do that it will obviously lead to death of Americans and the war will escalate, i am sure that no American citizen will support their country getting involved physically for fear of reprisal attacks, and it is very much understandable.

Sanctions was the best action they could take, that way they systematically and without any physical aggression cripple Russia to relent, it has been helpful to a good extent, but Russia is also important to Europe, so it will be difficult for every country to stick together in the demand for sanctions, some have to look at how it will affect their country economically, and for how long they can survive without Russian gas, it is a difficult situation they all are in, not that they enjoy what is going on in Ukraine, but for the sake of their own individual countries, both politically, economically, the safety and security of their citizens, their own interest etc, they have to be very careful before they act, and that is what they are doing.

Empires collapse all the time and another comes up.  Its just it.You have to look at it as a whole. From the topview of it

NATO is a bloc whether its for defense or offense, it doesn't matter. They prevent nations from oppressing the other. But NATO themselves oppressed members, you take a look at Germany, its been prevented to rise since WW2, they couldn't even develop military capabilities because they were sanctioned also. A whole lots more countries actually.

When US  invite countries for summit recently, they exclude other countries down the south.  What are they doing? We are suppose to be Americas!
If we are going to talk about breakaway regions. Mexico has a lot of land before including Cali up to Colorado. But who does this countries belong now?  This new world is never been the same before Putin.

That is correct. Nothing in the world is temporary.
There is a rise and fall of the empires - and Russia is going to rise again. I am not sure why the whole EU has turned against the Russia knowing that they depend on Russia for fuel supply,

You are absolutely right. The current collective security system turned out to be completely unprepared to adequately respond to such frankly gangster actions that Russia is now doing in relation to Ukraine, openly violating all previous international agreements and relying only on the strength of its weapons. Many states believed that this was no longer possible in the twenty-first century, so they were confused and did not know how to respond to this.
The President of Ukraine and other official representatives of this state have repeatedly stated that the UN Charter is already very outdated and if it is not radically changed, then such an organization as the UN should be dissolved as incapable of making any decisions, not to mention their adequacy, timeliness and equal response .

I believe that under such an international organization as the UN, there should be quite significant rapid reaction forces, similar to the "blue helmets", but with much greater powers to directly attack and destroy the aggressor by military means. And for this, it is necessary to radically change the decision-making system to information about such aggression, and the response should be calculated in hours, not months, as it is now. Of course, it is absolutely stupid to give the side accused of aggression the right to veto the decision of the entire body. The Charter should stipulate that all such decisions should be made without representatives of such a country, and the decision should be made by a majority or, say, two-thirds of those who voted.

If Russia is not stopped hard now, it will be a very bad example for other potential aggressors. We already see that China is now waiting, and if the Kremlin is not stopped, then China will continue to take control of Taiwan militarily. And this may be just the beginning.

The Ukraine is not a member of the Nato alliance, meaning it is not obligated to launch an armed attack against Russia to protect Ukraine.
Source : https://inews.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-why-no-one-helping-nato-russia-invasion-response-member-countries-1483199

We have seen how aggressive Putin gets when countries that are not part of NATO, want to join NATO. (Example : Switzerland) He knows ..the moment when he attacks a country that are part of NATO, then NATO can join that war to protect that country.  ;)

Nothing stops western countries to send weapons to help the Ukranians to fight their own battles.... and that is what is being done to help them.  ;)

Well, firstly, the leaders of all Western countries will learn to listen carefully to what Putin says. I think they have already learned.

Secondly, the old alliances, which have shown their inefficiency, will be replaced by new ones. I mean the role of BRICS and the CSTO will increase significantly.

Thirdly, the fate of the European Union looks unenviable. I don't know what format Europe is transforming into, but it will definitely have to change a lot - just to survive.

Fourth, US hegemony is over. If the US is unable to accept the new reality and learn to live within its means, stop plundering the rest of the world and inciting conflicts on all continents, there will be a nuclear war and the US will physically cease to exist. Since the Cuban Missile Crisis, the world has never been as close to nuclear war as it is now. It's good for everyone to consider this in their plans for the next couple of years - including when you choose a color to paint your house or where to go on vacation this summer.

Fifthly, Russia does not need the extra burden of a new world leader, it does not need your wealth and lands (there are plenty of its own), Russia is ready to conduct a dialogue with everyone on an equal footing and honestly cooperate on mutually beneficial terms. I do not hope that you will believe me in this, but I consider it necessary to formulate it explicitly.

ps I almost forgot to say a few words about Ukraine. Ukraine is in big trouble as a result of its anti-Russian policies and will be "denazified", "demilitarized" and possibly even "decommunized" (the latter means returning Ukraine to its pre-1917 borders). That is the way.

I don't know which low-level troll you are (or just a shitposter?) but as someone from Germany, I can tell you that your take is 100% bullshit and untrue.
World War II happened until 1945, now we have 2022. After World War II, there was a western (capitalist) and an eastern (communist) part of Germany. Both parts were re-united in 1990.
The only de-militarisation was directly when Hitler was finished and from 1949 on there was no "sanctions against Germany military" and Germany could build an independent military.
The USA was also in favor of a military capable (west) Germany because Germany was a frontline in the cold war.
But Germany didn't want to build a strong military because of its history (and also Poland was against it).
I can assure you that there was no "opression" against Germany.  ::)

So, you claims are completely wrong. You might do a bit more research.

I've looked up your posting history and I'm not surpised that your posting quality is extremely low and also completely braindead.
Example:

Just why? Makes no sense at all?
If there's any, I would say the Russians don't have any time counting their dead soldiers, at least it makes sense from what I heard. They don't seem to care much about dead and wounded soldiers suffering from bad communication and rushed actions (some solders didn't even know they were invading Ukraine).


Are you a troll or a shitposter?
So, Putin is invading Ukraine and you are saying, Ukraine should just do peace talks? Why is there even war? Because Putin invaded.
Putin has no business in Ukraine, he should just stop bombing Ukraine and stop killing civillians.

It's so easy!


Sure and then, Putin would capture a large part of Ukraine now + start a new war soon because obviously it works out for him - until all of Ukraine is captured by Russia.

How brainwashed are you?

Or are you just here to shitpost and earn a few lousy Sats for spamming the forum?  ::)

Based on the fact that European wars were never short, meaning they always lasted a long time and led to protracted crises that made repairs difficult. Soon Europe will face winter, hunger is increasing everywhere, followed by inflation, especially now that inflation news in the United States is very worrying. We ourselves have seen that the confrontation between Russia and the West is said to be a permanent war.

Maybe because you shouldn't necessarily be on the side of someone just because that someone has a lot power? Maybe you should support the oppressed against the oppressor, for a change? Maybe this kind of behavior can make your miserable life better? Life of someone who always submits to a greater power. What can be more miserable.

An opinion for a bit far from conflict,
Europe and America are over-reacting over a small conflict that have killed some 20K people and displaced 7M. Considering how they are directly involved in much severe conflicts in Asia and Africa, I don't see why they think the world is different from how it always has been.

The world will be different, again. The breakup of Ukraine is starting.


Ally to Vladimir Putin says Poland getting ready to annex a portion of Ukraine (https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-12-putin-ally-says-poland-to-annex-portion-of-ukraine.html#)




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Here, in fact, everything is simple, but because of this it is difficult ... The problem is that the world allowed a crazy maniac to seize nuclear weapons, monopolize energy resources from one of the most advanced unions - the EU, and threaten and demand with impunity.  At the same time, from his population, he made a herd of slaves, obedient and cowardly, assistants to a maniac, who, instead of improving life in their own country, break everything they can with their neighbors.  And the difficulty is that in addition to the USA and Britain, Poland and several other countries, all the rest are either afraid or tied to this maniac.  In fact, the West does not understand the reality of the threat and the fact that from this maniac, now Ukraine, at the cost of the lives of its citizens, destroyed cities, destroyed economy, is saving their calm, quite satisfying life.  At the same time, the West thinks that it will all end on its own, and there will be no need to resist the maniac, and in general, you can give part of Ukraine to the maniac, he will calm down .... And he just needs to be destroyed by joint efforts, but some suggest "saving the face of a maniac" or "do not provoke a maniac"


Let's discuss such an example - there was a marginalized type, a thief.  At one fine moment, he was punished, and he was out of the community for many years.  When he was released again, he decided, firstly, to change his profile, and secondly, he harbored a grudge against everyone who did not support him.  Those.  at all, except for their own, the same cronies of thieves.  So, he became a drug dealer.  And now he is trying, and he is succeeding (by deceit, bribery, threats, etc.) to get the neighbors to take hard synthetic drugs.  After some time, some of the neighbors, for one reason or another, became drug addicts, and the drug dealer began to profit from these people.  Moreover, he decided that those who do not want to buy his drugs, but also tell the truth about him, he must be to kill and destroy his house.  In your post, this is presented as "The former rascal thief has risen"!  Yes exactly !  But I am sure that this time, this "chick" will receive capital punishment or life imprisonment, without the right to parole!  No "next rise" :)



Really inadequate people rule Russia, did you have any doubts?!  ;D

Actually, they are professional people, just like you and me. Do you think that they are amateurs at being people by Putin's age?

As far as making governmental decisions goes, you can't tell if they are inadequate or not until you are in Putin's "Cabinet," looking at all the parts of the problems his government faces.

To me it looks far more like Biden and Congress are inadequate in the way taking care of the USA.

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Biden has done so much ill to the world already.
The unnecessary sanctions and the burden of IMF on our country has done disaster in my land. The gov is also supporting the American policies and the people are in so much agony.

Here I disagree with you. And I'll explain. A reasonable person, or reasonable action, is usually aimed at achieving some goals that will bring about positive changes or achievements. Logical, right? Well, for example - harvesting is reasonable, but breaking your leg with a hammer is idiocy. So the top of the Kremlin does anything! But only not actions to IMPROVE in their own country, but only enough of them to break and spoil everything good for their neighbors, knowing that it will not be they themselves, the Kremlin criminals, who will suffer, but the ordinary people of Russia and those countries where they came to "save and protect" people from the good life. And this is just pure inadequacy! If you do not agree, I will be happy to hear your reasoned opinion.

PS Yes, for information. Taken from Russian sources: 80% of Russians started saving in the spring of 2022. Most of the respondents said that they are trying to save on everything (44%), some even on food, follows from a survey by the Zarplata.ru service. The main reason for savings 61% of respondents named the increase in prices.

Haven't you looked at the whole thing, yet? This is a form of civil war. There are loads of Ukrainians who live in Russia and vice-versa.

The problems that made the war were interference by at least the US, but by some nations of Europe, as well. The US made the Ukraine's "playful" slapping of Russia, and Russia's playful slapping of the Ukraine - slapping that has been going on for many decades - into big, subtle slaps by what appears to be the Ukraine.

It isn't really Ukraine, though. Rather, it's interference by outside countries... always for oil, but also (in this case) because of the at least 46 Wuhan-style labs the US has set up in Ukraine. Russia has simply decided that it wants no part of a "playful" civil war back-and-forth-tugging that is becoming serious rather than sort of playful. So, it is fighting back.

If it wasn't for the fact that the Ukrainian people are all feeling the heat from Russia right now, you would find loads of Ukrainians who would be supporting Russia, just like there were for all these decades. And there are loads of Ukrainians and Russians in Russia who support the Ukraine - to the tune of feeling sorry for the Ukraine land and people - but want the US out of there... just like loads of Ukrainians and Russians in the Ukraine who want the same.


I have no idea what Russia would do if the US and Europe backed out of the Ukraine altogether. Maybe at this stage they would go on fighting and take the Ukraine over. But if foreign nation removal was done just the right way, the whole thing might go back to the "playful" slaps that have been going on forever in the past.

Wake up and see that this isn't Russian aggression against Ukraine, but that it is Russia defending itself against the US and Europe. The Ukraine just happened to get in the way... except for those of the Ukraine who are in favor of the aggressive-like interference by the US.

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Did he removed that part of text or it was quote from another post? But yeah, serious shit from person who is far from these things. Not the first time from him...

Wait, what? Decommunized? Does Russia decommunize Ukraine by rebuilding Lenin status in occupied cities?
FYI, Ukraine already have deccommunization laws which are imposed quite effectively:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_decommunization_laws
Russia rather should decommunize themselves.

Russia isn't interested in Communism the way it was before the fall of the USSR.

Stalin destroyed any hope for Communism when he killed the 20 million to 60 million people he executed. Even after he was gone, and thing got better a bit, there was nothing that could stop the fall of the Soviet Union. The people were going to destroy Communism one way or another.

Putin understands this. That's why the new Russia that has risen out of the ashes of the old USSR, is trying to rebuild in free trade ways.

The US knows this, and is in Ukraine for a handful of reasons... to weaken Russia to get the oil in Siberia, to use the Ukraine and other former USSR nations for things like the 46 Wuhan-style labs the US already has in the Ukraine, and any other thing that they can make profit on.

Russia isn't fighting the Ukraine. Russia is fighting the US. If the US pulls out today, Russia might invade and conquer. But it would only be Russia making sure the US was really out. The war-killing and property destruction would stop, even though it might take a while for total freedom to move back in.

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... the only thing missing is the running line "TASS reports. The West is rotting. The dollar is worth nothing. The United States will soon cease to exist. The happiest residents of the USSR, oh, Russia, met with applause the speech of the 85-year-old, non-replaceable leader of the country, at the 65th Congress of the Central Committee of the CPSU ";D

PS Self-hypnosis is cool, but it will hardly help you :)

What does self-hypnosis have to do with it, I look at things realistically. As recently as yesterday, David Arakhamia, a member of the Ukrainian negotiating delegation, gave an interview in Washington, during which, among other things, he voiced (https://www.axios.com/2022/06/15/ukraine-1000-casualties-day-donbas-arakhamia) two curious things:
1. Ukraine's negotiating position is rather weak.
2. The Armed Forces of Ukraine lose about 1,000 people killed and wounded per day.

In other words, Ukraine cannot fight effectively and cannot negotiate peace. All hope is for another wunderwaffe of NATO, from which there will be no one to shoot.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Your humor simply will not leave anyone indifferent. But say not 1,000 a day, but 1,000,000, they say, a negative number of people already live in Ukraine!
It is interesting - and from whom, with hysteria and screeching, the army of terrorists fled from half of the territories occupied at the beginning. At the same time, strewn roads, fields, houses with their corpses, their destroyed equipment? Oh, I forgot - it was the "insidious Americans" who threw it in! You can take this topic for your humorous fantasies, I don't mind! :)

Many Ukrainian folks are moving to Russia and other countries just to avoid the war.

Many "mercenaries" are moving into the Ukraine just to get some of the American money and armament that is pouring into Ukraine.

Among the Ukrainian dead are a lot of folks who are not really Ukrainians, who have been there, or who have moved there, before or during the war.

Your idea of negative people in Ukraine is taking be.open's info in ways he didn't mean. Besides, the 1,000 dead is really only 100-200 per day, if you follow different sources.

The point is that sooner or later other countries will tire of helping the Ukraine government - just as many Ukrainians have already - and then the Ukraine will be lost. Even the US won't support its Wuhan-style labs forever. There are too many places in the world where setting up illegal labs is easier and safer.

The Russian government would love taking over those labs. US leaders who got them going were taking a chance, and they knew it, and they will lose.

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This after war aid is a joke. USA first create the war more aggressive and they initiate the  rehabilitation programs.
The same was done in Afghanistan and the whole region is in chaos. Pakistan also lost so many soldiers and civilians. Still USA wants Pakistan to do more!

"Many Ukrainians move to Russia and other countries to avoid war." - I agree and do not argue ... Someone chooses the side of the aggressor, the Russian world is famous for this. So to speak, genetic memory, during the Second World War, the largest army of traitors was just RUSSIAN (ROA and the like, which amounted to more than 1 million people who killed their citizens). This is a small digression into history to understand the process that you voiced. But I like it in some way. What we did not do from humane principles - we did not expel pro-Russian separatists and their sympathizers from the country, this was arranged by Russia. Now these people are in Russia, Ukraine has become a bit clean.

Mercenaries receive American, European, and Ukrainian money. Yes, what's wrong? Mercenaries and entire PMCs are also fighting on the part of Russia, for some reason this does not bother you?

"Among the dead Ukrainians, there are many people who are not actually Ukrainians, who were or moved there before or during the war." - oh, who is it? Citizens of Ukraine, no matter what nationality they are, they are citizens of Ukraine. By the way, for reference, about 40% of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are Russian speakers. Russians. Whom Russia decided to "save" from a normal life...
Another short digression into history - why are the cesspools like the DPR and LPR so pro-Russian. Here, indeed, resettlement played a role. When the Ukrainian population was exterminated in the 30s-40s-50s (famine, arrests, evictions to the far north of Russia), outcasts from the territory of the RSFSR were brought in their place. Now, their heirs are  make up the overwhelming majority of accomplices of Russian terrorists.


"The fact is that sooner or later other countries will get tired of helping the government of Ukraine, as many Ukrainians have already done, and then Ukraine will be lost. Even the United States will not maintain its Wuhan-style laboratories forever. There are too many places in the world where to create illegal labs are easier and safer."
 - What laboratories? Do not disgrace yourself in front of everyone by repeating the propaganda of the rashist media! Also tell us how Ukrainians eat Russian-speaking children, drink their blood in the morning instead of coffee, and kill everyone who speaks Russian on the street - nonsense of the same level! But the Russian audience really likes it! You haven't heard "true stories" from the Russian media about entire armies of gay African Americans yet :) They came to punish the Russians, in a very specific way. This is a very favorite topic of the entire Russian society :)

And about the help - it turned out that for the West this is a penny against the background of the potential risks of participation in the third world war. I agree, they are essentially paying us a "service" to destroy rashism. It happens.

Although here in my country - due to surging inflation. People are very upset and sad because of the rising prices of oil and gas.
The world is no longer the same and the world will no longer be the same. Russia has proved to the world they are most powerful country. I agree with it.

We can always look it up by googling it. I understand its not something people would want to hear. Its not officially sanctioned but its always there. When Biden said that Nordstream 2 can't operate, Germany just shut his mount.  Olaf Scholz say something today and then the next day he will have to say the different thing because the West narrative don't align to what he previously said.

Even the US citizen are sanctioned themselves, they just don't realized it. Can they  even invest in the secondary market? No. Singapore market or to the Russian market which is climbing up, they can't do that. Because they are not allowed which equates to sanctioning.

Surrendering to Putin doesn't mean they lost. But saving  the lives of their solder means a lot. They can fight some other day. Taking lands has been part of negotiation even before time.

These senctions have put the whole world in so much trouble. I am sure EU will be repenting their own decision.
They wanted to save Ukraine  but now they are in trouble too and so is the whole world. There is inflation at its peak and people are stressed.

Your from Pakistan right? How did the sanctions affect you personally? You can no longer grow opium poppies or find a job at Upwork?
People are stressed holy cow

Why do you think they grow opium poppies and and the last statement --you said about HOLY COW, this is a hate comment.
I think you need to do a little bit more research - Pak is struggling because their PM was on visit to the Russia when they attacked Ukraine. And by law no country is allowed to do. There is political turmoil after that. Peace out!

For the EU, this is a reckoning. A heavy, complex retribution for the "sins" of their rulers from Schroder to Merkel, who put their personal interests and profit (through serving international terrorists from the Kremlin) above the security of both Germany and the EU as a whole. For some time, the EU and, of course, Germany, which, by the way, received the most problems, will have to live very hard by "tightening their belts", stopping part of the enterprises, lowering the standard of living of a significant part of the citizens. Well, as you wanted - punishment will always follow for any crime! But others will finally understand that playing together with a criminal is being an accomplice in crime, and they will have to answer for this. I hope this will be a good lesson and stop the repetition of 1939 when the brown plague was released into the world, allowing Nazism to create terror in Europe. Now a new, Russian brown plague has huddled in a corner, spoiling the whole world. But it won't last long :)

Just like what the title said, this is one of how the human civilizations evolved or things like this should happen for us to think of another way to be self-sufficient without getting any help from the current countries that are superpowers nowadays because when they are at war, they cannot send any help to us rather they just making things worse and they are killing the economy of some countries by raising all the price of the trades they are supplying and they reasons is the current war that going on in Ukraine. In our country, the price of oil is at an all-time high and it's going up more than expected, at the same time the products that needed to be transported from the other place are raising their prices as well. Now if the country that we know something like this could happen in the future or this will become a new normal, countries that won't find any alternatives will soon collapse.

Well said, sir.

Most funny part is that Germany is reopening coal power plants at the same time, they are going to close normally operating nuclear power plants. I have a feeling that in this country something really fucking wrong with energy security strategy. I hope to see all this Warnig, Schroder, Merkel, Scholz scam in the dock one day.

First thing, do you know about rule No. 1?

I guess no...

Then, go ahead and don't post untrue information.  :D

You are funny.  :D
That's some sort of unproven gibberish. It doesn't even make sense for non-German people.  :D
You need know: Nord Stream 2 was (almost) completely constructed when Putin attacked Ukraine. There would have been transfers of russian Gas from Russia to Germany BUT Putin decided to attack Ukraine. Maybe he miscalculated because some German politicians were very pro Putin and maybe he thought he would get away with his war because Germans would go for cheap Gas from Russia instead of solidarity with Ukraine. But it turned out that Putin was wrong and Germany chose solidarity with Ukraine.

Nord Stream 2 was stopped when Germany cancelled the pipeline because Putin invaded Ukraine. It hasn't to do anything with Biden / USA / US sanctions. Nothing.
You are misinformed.  ::)


That doesn't make any sense but go ahead.  :D

Surrendering to Putin will mean that Ukraine will lose occupied lands and probably Russia will launch a new war again in 5-10 years because obviously it was a good deal for Putin to start a war.

Yes, all Russian soldiers should leave Ukraine, best deal. No people shot, no houses destroyed, Putin go home.  :)

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I'm from Germany and can confirm that there is no "trouble". The biggest trouble is in Ukraine, caused by Russia, currently.
Holy cow, the best thing would be if Putin would send his soldiers back to Russia.  :)

Ah oh.  Looks like the Ukrainians have got themselves yet another 'game changer'.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/UX2aMbXAolVb/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/UX2aMbXAolVb/)

That must be why the 'orcs' are streaming back across the border for the safety of Mother Russia with the heroic Ukrainians in hot pursuit.

Russia has kept a tight control over Ukraine and Chechnya and other neighbouring states.
But what Russia has done is far more worse than with USA have done to put the sanctioned by whole world. Now EU is in trouble to get the oil and gas.

Yeah, definitely retained "hard control"! :)
She got hit in the face by the Kadvrotians, knelt down and dutifully paid tribute to Kadyrov and his monkeys.
In Ukraine, it receives a snout every day, the Russian army has shown itself to be a bunch of marauders, thieves and criminals, and soon the moment when it will be destroyed. After that, Russia and all Russians will pay reparations to Ukraine for decades, most likely to other countries where their brown boot of rashism has stepped .
Perfect control! :)

This expert doesn't even know that technically Chechnya is part of Russia. What can you talk about with him?

Chechnya is temporarily occupied by Russia.

I understand what you're talking about, but in fact Chechnya is recognized as part of Russia by all countries of the World.

The fact that Ukraine is losing and will lose the war is being hidden by the media as much as possible. But word is getting out anyway.


Fighting to the Last Ukrainian: Biden's Proxy War of Attrition has Become an Unmitigated Disaster (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/327957-2022-06-30-fighting-to-the-last-ukrainian-bidens-proxy-war-of-attrition.htm)




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I'm waiting for your comment when you have to realize about Russia's devastated economy, people in occupied parts of Ukraine will trash Russian local leaders and Putins circle will collapse itself because oligarchs are getting mad at him.  :D :D
And don't forget: Russian military needs western micro chips.
Very bad idea of Russia to invade Ukraine...
We don't know why Russia invaded.

Maybe ask Russia's braindead 'leader'

I'll be honest with you. I don't know the future, just like you and the rest of the people don't.

Any number of Russian leaders have been removed over the many decades, because the group determined that there were better ideas. That's the way the Russian government works. If you have inside info that Putin is going to be removed, could you post it please?... English translation?

Microchips are easy to get from the US. This doesn't mean that Russia doesn't know how to make them, or that they aren't able to get them directly from China.

Very bad idea of Ukraine antagonizing Russia so that they would invade in this way, as self-defense.

Three major well known reasons why Russia is doing what they are doing in the Ukraine:
1. Fighting the Nazi's who took over the Ukrainian Government;
2. Getting rid of the 46 US bio-labs in Ukraine, being used to design viral warfare viruses, probably for use against Russia in biological warfare;
3. Self-defense against the 8-year Ukrainian guerilla warfare that was slipping in and out of Russia, killing Russians and damaging Russian property.

The fact that you don't know these 3 simple, major things shows that you are out of it, and that if your predictions come true, it wasn't because you knew it in any way.

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But this advisor knows nothing at all :)
I carry out the liquidation of illiteracy free of charge:
Russia is a federal presidential-parliamentary republic. Federation - a form of government in which parts of the state are state entities that have legally defined political independence within the federation.
The Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (has a constitution, a president, a parliament) - declared independence from Russia in July 1991, after Dzhokhar Dudayev won the election. The declaration of independence of Chechnya led to a protracted military conflict between the Russian government and the independent republic, which led to significant casualties and destruction among the civilians of Ichkeria. As a result of the hostilities of 1994-1996, the Russian army tried to return CRI to the Russian Federation by force, but this attempt was unsuccessful. In connection with the upcoming presidential elections in 1996, the Russian leadership was forced to withdraw troops from Chechnya and thereby recognize the independence of the republic.
According to the constitution of the Russian Federation (the version prior to 214, when Russia launched its terrorist war in Ukraine and annexed part of its territories), the constitution of the Russian Federation assumed the freedom of choice for each republic included in the federation, whether to remain part of this entity or not. After 2014, Russia, having committed a crime against Ukraine, holding a pseudo-referendum, and realizing that this could be used by any subject of the Russian Federation, illegally changed the constitution and banned any option for the peoples of the independent republics to express their will regarding the issue of secession from the federation.

I have heard from a Ukrainian friend that almost all the women have migrated to other parts of the world but the men are staying behind to help the soldiers.
Russians on the other hand are stealing their food and pans so the survivors die of hunger. We are not yet out of COVID war and this war again has shattered the world.

"Almost all the women" is around 20 mil in Ukraine. And for now, full amount of refugees is 7 millions (or close number). And a lot of them have already returned to Ukraine (girlfriend of my buddy, few girls I know personally and so on)

^^^ These women know the Ukraine military is just about squashed. They are coming back to make peace with Russia... so they can get on with their lives.

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Ordinary Ukrainian women fight in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, just like men. And they are destroying the vaunted "second army in the world" with sweet smiles :) While your raZist martinets are cowardly stealing the worn underwear of Ukrainian citizens in cities and villages destroyed by Russia to give as a previously inaccessible gift to their primitive females! :)
You are afraid to go save the "Russian world" in Ukraine, because even a simple Ukrainian girl will send you to the other world, and your family, in return, may receive a letter and a bag of onions for you ... Although most likely, as has already happened with thousands rashists, your relatives will be sent a "missing" certificate, and your funeral money will be plundered, according to an age-old habit that has developed in the Russian army :)

I kinda hate to see the Ukrainian lands and people so devastated, just like you do. And I could cry out in hopes of success for Ukraine, just like you are. It's so unfortunate that Russia waited so long in her allowing Ukraine freedom, so that there is this war, now. If Russia had only nipped the Nazi's in the bud 8 years ago, there wouldn't be this devastation, now.

It's a shame that the Ukraine has such criminals in government. They will never stand against Russian strength. And the US will ultimately give up. I just read about a poll in an article that talked about something like 39% of all Americans are starting to look at the idea of armed rebellion against the US Government, mostly because of Biden, of course. And Russia has China to fall back on a bit if things really go sour for them.

Too bad this whole thing had to play out like this for Ukraine. They need a Constitution like the United States to be able to get rid of those criminals in their government.

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I agree with one thing - if Russia destroyed the Nazis 8 years ago, there would be no war in Ukraine, since there would be no Russia :) After the destruction of the Nazis, Russia will cease to exist, fall apart into many independent and free republics. Except for one - the Moscow-Petersburg Republic, which will pay reparations for life to everyone who suffered from its Nazism, or rather rashizma! And the key role in the collapse of this Nazi nest belongs to Ukraine, it will score an aspen stake in rashizm! :)

Residents of liberated Lysychansk were shown trophy equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The open-air exhibition displayed both old Soviet equipment used by the Ukrainian military and "gifts" from NATO countries. Characteristically, NLAW grenade launchers, for example, were often delivered with dead or oxidized batteries.
 
A special place among the exhibits is occupied by a stand with propaganda materials produced by Kiev. They present Russian and LNR servicemen to children as the worst enemies in a comic book format.

https://t.me/shot_shot/41564

There might be benefits for the whole world in what Biden is doing to Russia through Ukraine. The benefits would come in the form of a crashing of the whole one-world order. People, be ready to pick up you freedom everywhere. Now's the time to create and develop your own personal altcoin.

Biden is covertly on the side of Russia.


Epic fail: Joe Biden’s sanctions have actually benefited the Russian economy (https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-07-08-joe-biden-sanctions-benefit-russian-economy.html#)




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yeah, this is just from his words. And one interesting fact: For some reason operator shows NLAW only from side, not in front.
Maybe this because this NLAWs already used? *thinking*  ;D

And yeah, mostly only oldies on this exhibition telling some crazy stories, typical. 

Russian propaganda, in fact, these are primitive comics, for those who have dropsy of the brain! I strongly recommend not to watch these "masterpieces"! There is definitely no truth there, but through informational influence, you can acquire dementia, debility and other "joys" of a classic inhabitant of the "Russian world" :)
Although ... if you like it - I have to disappoint you - the process is no longer reversible!
Threat And how powerfully Russia took Kyiv in 3 days, and all of Ukraine in 3 weeks. Truth ?! And the news about the destroyed 300% Ukrainian aircraft, 400% of tanks, 750% of manpower looks especially true!  ;D

Guess what? The Ukraine was part of Russia for decades under the USSR. So, you might as well say Ukrainian propaganda, like primitive comics.

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I've always liked Russian fantasy comedians :)
The main concept of such people is interesting - to pass off nonsense as truth, undeniable, and then starting from it, as from a fact that does not require evidence to build a picture :)
Regarding devastation - drive 50 km from Moscow or St. Petersburg !! This is where the age-old hopelessness is, this is where the emptiness is, this is where people have neither past nor future! Take care of yourself at the end of Russia's existence, at least :) I know perfectly well how the situation is inside Russia. There is no Moscow, namely Russia. Everything looks the same as in the territories where the cancerous tumor called the "Russian world" came - the PMR, the DPR, the LPR, Abkhazia, ... Desolation, devastation, dirt, again - the absence of any prospects and future. And so everywhere and in everything. In short - better suffer over the map of Russia, soon enough this tumor will no longer be on the world map! WE are full of positive, enthusiasm and strength to realize this with the help of our friends - the USA, Britain, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and many many others!



The Russians also belong to the species, which was the result of a long evolution. And further relatives, for many billions of years, were single-celled. Now I will consider all Russians - infusori- shoes. Or is it a "completely different case"?  ;D


PS.And if you study history, you will find out that before Moscow appeared, there had been a rule of law state in Kyiv for more than a century. When the Muscovites worshiped the Tartar khans for centuries (by the way, Tartaria is the historical name of today's Russia, for many centuries), Ukraine was part of Europe, the center of Slavism and Christianity. And the fact that for some time Russia managed to occupy Ukraine is temporary, like today's Russia itself! :)

^^^ I kinda like the Yandex browser and search engine. Does Ukraine have anything like these?

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I have to calm down a little, a person with a painful fantasy :)
1. Yandex browser - a browser created by Yandex based on the Blink engine. Developed by itself not by Russians :)
2. The Internet is what the "Russian browser" works with - a product 100% from the USA :) While the USA allows Russia to use it
3. Popular search engines in Ukraine
    I.ua.
    Ukr.net.
    Meta.ua.
    Poshukach.com.
    Shukalka.com.ua.
... and you have only one "Yandex"?  ;D

No matter how much you would like - but Russia is really technologically backward, a raw material appendage. And everything in Russia that works more or less is either stolen ... or stolen! The historical habit of the Moscow ulus / "Russia" / USSR / RF :)

The last thing that was stolen was HIMARS.

The Russians learned more of history though. The Crimean war that happened long time ago was because  someone took control of the sea. Who ever controls the sea controls all that surrounds it.
Ukraine was already lucky to have shared it with the rest but when they wanted to get enlisted with NATO, its a different path. NATO controling that sea will be the disaster of all countries surrounding there.

NATO lost its meaning, they even get Asian countries to join and also wants the middle east countries to join. North?  They don't even build nations unlike the BRICS that helped making infrastructures so its no  surprise that more countries prefer to join even the countries right in the backyard of US and EU.

This is only understood by people from oppressed countries though. Especially countrids that were bombed in the middle east when they say regime change but then leave the country in rubles. Countries like Iraq or Libya that was once properous but after the regme change, leave making the people worse. Stories people written online are written by people who werent there.

Blask Sea isn't strategic point anymore, I think since 1918, when Ottoman Empire dissapeared. Applying "Black sea" argument is means that you're from 19th century. While russia think trough 19th century paradigms, it's weird that a lot of people outside russia think in the same way. You're in the wrong time lapse man

The Black Sea is a closed water area, where you can get only from the Dnieper, or through the Bosphorus, which is controlled by Turkey, which, in turn, does not want to see new Russian floating troughs in the sea, part of which belongs to Turkey.

And most importantly - remember, and never again fall for propaganda - until 2014, Ukraine had NO plans to join NATO. There were plans and projects for the modernization of obsolete Soviet junk, or rather, the abandonment of it, and the transition to new progressive standards, which it is logical to assume were developed and supported by NATO countries and not only. For example, India, purchasing weapons from the NATO bloc, did not become a member of NATO.

Well, listen to Russian propaganda - in 2014 they unleashed a war against Ukraine, solely because of the "Revolution of Dignity", which resulted in the flight of the pro-Russian President Yanukovych. And for Russia and Putin personally, this became a nightmare - an example of the overthrow of tyrant rulers, traitor rulers, and idiot rulers could come to Russia.
And the fairy tale about the fact that "Ukraine is joining NATO" was invented much later and spread through the pro-Russian media.