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Almost everyone that engaged in gambling did so with the sole aim to making money through winnings from their bets, and I don't think there's any reasonable gambler that goes on comfortably smiling in the process of losing his money to gambling no matter how little in amount the stake might be.

For I often wonder how gambling will look like for a gambler going on for days or weeks be it with online casinos or betshops without winning even a stake but then I discovered a certain guy around my neighborhood that I met within one of the betshops around my street that enjoys and derives pleasure in just playing gambling even without winning any stake. Like this guy has no big deal with losing his bets as long he keeps on playing and it baffles me if it's a psychological issue or what?

For it baffles me that someone could decide to engage into gambling only because of the pleasure he claims to derive while engaging in it as opposed to making profit or winning money which is every gamblers most concern.
Just yo raise some discussion, could this be a psychological related issues or is just a normal thing?
Also, have you come across such persons and what was your expression?

There is no fun in gambling if you can not only risk the amount of money you can afford to lose, if you risk more and you gamble more, you will lose more and it will become a problem. There are psychological effect in gambling, you lose and you use an amount you can afford to lose, you are not depressed, if you lose and you are used an amount too big for you to afford to lose, you are depressed. If you see gambling as income, you can use higher amount for it and lead to depression, your friend do not see gambling like that is the reason.

There are so many of these people and it's not a psychological issue at all, it's normal and it should be the right way if you understand how gambling works and that you cannot beat the house edge and it takes luck to win in the casino, you'll want to enjoy the game more because that is how a casino works, it's for your enjoyment and satisfaction, if you want to make money out of gambling you will just disappoint yourself.
So enjoy the game challenge yourself but don't expect money to come in if you win withdraw your earnings and have a drink and be satisfied that you beat the house on that session but don't expect it's always your lucky day.

it's not really surprising and it is not a psychological issue. there are gamblers/people who gamble just for entertainment, relaxation, or as a way to relieve stress, etc... believe it or not, not everyone who gambles is in it just to win or gain profit, there are actual people who find gambling for entertaining, for relaxation, etc...

It is normal character that is common to compulsive gamblers, the HOPE to someday win big is reassuring for them. The pleasure comes from the high expectations that they have which is usually bolstered by other peoples testimonials of winning. It has become really bad for some that they have now attributed winning to just luck regardless of strategy, hence try to gamble as much as they can in the hope that luck smiles on them some day.

If this player is a philosopher by nature, then this is quite normal. 

In life, you can concentrate not on the result, but on the process and get positive emotions and buzz from this. 

The desire for results is a feature of the Western mentality. 

People living in the east perceive life in a completely different way.  They believe that the process is more important than the result. 

Gambling is, in fact, a single combat with fate. 

Any result of gambling (losing or winning) is a confirmation that a person is still alive and can enjoy life (including by gambling).

Well, I'm not serious about gambling but for the others, this is could be. That is why even if a lose, I don't get hurt, of course, sometimes disappointed but I do understand what this gambling meant for me, it was just for pleasure. And in the first place, I don't expect to win, unlike the others who gamble a huge amount of money thinking about winning big.
In this thing, we can't assure winning, as to whether we accept or not but the truth is that gambling needs luck or else, we lose. It is not about looking for hopes but it is our decision that is why we also have accepted losses than blaming others and the site.

You cannot win every game in gambling so you need to prepare yourself that you can face the loss too. If you have prepared on how to handle the loss, then you will still drive the pleasure out of a loss (though it won't be similar to a win). In order to be prepared for a loss, the best and the most important thing which you need to do is to do risk management. Without risk management, you will lose all your capital.

Gambling is a way of life and if you want to enjoy the game challenge yourself but don't expect money to come in if you win withdraw your earnings and have a drink and be satisfied that you beat the house on that session but don't expect it's always your lucky day.

I think the person I met gambles with the amount he accepts to lose, so even though he doesn't get the jackpot, he feels happy and there are also many addicts you won't find a sign on their faces that says they are happy!!!

I think the more people lose their money the more depressed they are as you said and some people know exactly how to hide it by playing poker face but in reality, they are depressed because they don't know where they will gonna get back money to play or how they will get back the money they lose. That's why it always needs to consider before spending on anything, people should better think about whether it's important or not because regret cannot become medicine when you lose everything you have right now because of a mere bad decision.

Their is no fun in gambling when someone is beting with the amount that he can't afford to lose, we play gambling to make money after the final result, I don't think it is fun loosing money that is not worth to be lose but will only end up in depression.

Funny topic. Completely inverted view of the world. A fair majority of gamblers play for fun and they actually enjoy losing money. A significant part of gamblers play for the sake of winning the jackpot, I can call it a dream, there is nothing wrong with that. And a very small (in my opinion) part of gamblers play for the sake of earning. It doesn't take a genius to play once or twice or ten times to understand that gambling is not suitable for making money.

The feeling of euphoria even when losing is due to dopamine.  We all know what dopamine can do to our emotions. 
That might explain it well.



I think it is the player's choice.  If he intends to have fun then he is playing for fun or he can just play for profit, while others might want to take both options.  We really can't judge these players' intentions so saying that profit is the only thing for gamblers is somehow a biased statement.

Regardless of psychology and expression, everyone has ways and criteria in making bets, especially in gambling, the method is very clearly different, there are people who bet on gambling, if they lose they are frustrated and there are those who don't care about winning and losing, means: less happy, on the contrary.

Generally, gamblers if they lose they are not happy, including me, even though I only gamble for fun and entertainment, the reason is simple even though today's gambling is with crypto, what is clear is real money, hope to deposit and bet wants to win, even if the win is slim, maybe you could say I've never found friends or people when I lose a gamble, I'm happy, I've never been, quite the opposite, even though I have reasons blah, blah, blah.

Yes, it is normal in all means and in all terms, Expectations can lead us to push our limits but they can also harm us. There's really a psychological reason behind that thing and even in science it says that there's a neurotransmitter that is began to activate once we feel pressure in gambling and some other things that will make us feel happy but the thing is it will not make us feel contended and that's where the addiction to win will come , we will play as much as we can or maybe more than we can so that we will not be lose.

Gambling is something correlated with drugs. When you bet, you get an exponential grow of adrenaline, direct proportional with the amount of your bet. Also, when you lose, you take the same sensation. That's why usually

gamblers plays for lose and not for win, sensation that he proves is something similar to the drug. And, when things go outside from any form of control, you'll be addicted, and come back is not so simple.

It is absolutely normal to have mindset like that where you keep gambling and losing money yet you have fun doing it.
Even I do gambling some times and while I know I am going to lose my money I still proceed with that.
I gamble the money which I can afford to lose which is the reason why I have fun while gambling.
If gambling is not fun then there's no point doing it.

What I think about betting and losing yet smiling is that you can only lose for few times and smile and enjoy it as fun but if keep betting and you keep losing, your countenance must change and that anxiety of losing money will start showing up. I know again that addicts never ever bet for the fun of gambling. They bet for the only purpose of winning and doubling there money. Basically then , most people don't bet for fun of it. It involves money and that is attached with some seriousness and hope to double your money.

Some people only seek for entertainment on gambling maybe because they can't socialize at all. Imo this is not a psychological problem but ways on directing your attention to other things that will give almost same benefits such as entertainment.

On the other hand, Having a consecutive lose streak should bother you no matter what you are thinking because you really need to consult a  psychiatrist if you are already experiencing this feeling because this is not normal. You might lose everything if you don't feel any resentment toward your loss.

Maybe your friend allocates enough funds for gambling just to enjoy the satisfaction that it could give despite losing. There are still people who rely on gambling just to release their stress but if we're talking about too much gambling and continuous losing streak but still smiling and feeling happy, I guess there's already an emotional problem involved. That person might be experiencing something that he relies his happiness on gambling but that's actually risky because he could possibly lose everything in the future.

I completely agree with you.

Of course I am not happy after losing a gambling game, but I am pretty good at restraining my emotions and my environment is unlikely to notice any changes in me. I believe that the likelihood of losing at a casino is higher than the likelihood of winning moreover I am aware of all the risks so I take it easy enough to such an outcome.

People need to socialize it is one of the basic needs of humans and some find visiting and playing in a land-based casino a place of socialization for them.  Plus others find playing on gambling sites as one of the ways to relieve stress.  Players like these do not need to win nor play because they aim to win but rather to fill the need such as the need to belong or the need to relieve stress.


I think the uncontrollable urge to gamble is the one that should bother a player, not the consecutive losing streak.  IF a player felt the first one, he should consult a professional and if he is experiencing the latter, I think he needs to take a break.

If you're gambling regularly I think you'll come to a point where you'll start to enjoy it more than winning and losing as i've been there with sports betting but with casino games, i'm not sure if you could get the same kind of experience as well. In sports, sometimes you'll start to look forward to certain popular events like the playoffs in the NBA or the weekends when it's the NFL season. Those wins and losses become a temporary feeling that you can easily brush aside once you get used to gambling.

The whole point in gambling is to keep striving for that almost unachievable goal of winning an amazing amount of money. While realistically, that goal is almost unachievable and statistically extremely unlikely, it is still something that gamblers strive towards. And every little win that brings you closer to that goal aka winning smaller amounts of money gives you a little dopamine rush. Which is the main thing gamblers want, I guess. And the chance of losing too, gives you a little rush but not as good as when winning.

Its all about the dopamine, really. Even if you win 1 million USD gambling, you probably will not quit your gambling habits.

I don't think it's a psychological problem, you just don't know what he's feeling.  Cases like this are common, there are many people who hide their anger or disappointment after losing a gamble and this is normal.  I have one friend and he plays slot machines almost every day, yes every day.  Although almost every game he lost, his expression was relaxed and didn't feel annoyed.  lol why?  because he has a business that makes a lot of money.  for him gambling is just for fun when he is relaxing.  well maybe my friend can be a reference for your thoughts.

Depends on a certain person because there are really people whose mindsets are already fixed and can't really be changed yet we know that losing is never been enjoying or entertaining or could make you happy.Getting stressed converted to leisure won't be something simple to be done yet you would really be needing that kind of mind which is already fixed in terms of impression towards gambling.I don't see for any abnormalities about this kind of condition yet people do really have this kind of behavior if they are really sticking into their principles and impressions towards something.

Sounds like he's doing it for the thrill or out of habit (?)

but, been there done that, there was a time when i couldn't watch football matches unless i placed some stakes on the games, i didn't care about the outcome, i just wanted to place a wager (fortunely it was money i could afford to lose), root for one team and focus on the game, maybe the bets just made it a lot more exciting to watch or maybe i was hooked on the adrenaline rush and i just needed my daily/weekly fix of it. But it was a short phase, i quickly realized that the cravings could lead to addiction, so i stopped and started betting more responsibly.

Normal, there are no psychological problems but if he gambler to try continue gambling and continues to lose, it is better to stop gambling because it is an addict. Not having a strategy and not often analyzing is a bad method for a gambler, a habit we often see. Back to answering OP question is actually easy, gamblers have to gamble with money that is not really used in his life, a little money to have fun at gambling is a normal act. But it's also not good, he can use money to give alms to people who need it more. Gambling is not about fun It has an unusual sensation.

I never thought that losing at gambling was something that would make a gambler happy, it was a nonsense because the majority of gamblers bet to win money.

They can spend a lot of money on fun gambling, but I think the class will be very different from most gamblers. Gambling for fun is for those who only gamble while on vacation from work and I think they are the ones who will actually have less influence on winning and losing. But in general, winning is something that makes gamblers feel good.

Gamblers are often addicted to it,  based on the fact that it brings huge money at times they think they would eventually win some day so they keep trying and trying even when they see that it is not working and no positive results. They don't give up, even if they have decided to stop within a short time they would still go back to it, believing they would just win and stop gambling, but  they find out that they can't stop.

I think people who do gambling like that can already be said to be gambling addicts and it will be very dangerous for those who try to do anything to do gambling, it's better if you want to gamble at least you have to have a very large amount of money and will not feel depressed when the money you have runs out and does not produce anything from the gambling place because this gambling has a high risk and can make your assets run out.

People who play for fun most of the time don't care if they're losing or not. but I also need you to notice your friend from the following angle:

- what kind of game is your friend playing and with what amount and what kind of strategy is he using?

let's suppose your friend is playing some slot game, maybe he is playing with hopes of someday winning a big jackpot

Let's suppose your friend is betting on sports betting, maybe he is multi-betting with many teams so the odds are very high and he bets little money and one day if he wins he will win a lot of money

Ask yourself this question :

Why do people jump off a bridge with a rope tied to their legs..... or better yet, why do people jump out of an airplane without a parachute? <== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Aikins

Answer : Because it releases a feel-good chemical called dopamine!

So people take huge risks with large bets, knowing what the consequences might be and the dopamine is released before the bet is placed. (or just before the bet)  ::)

Probably he doesn't get happy when losing, he just doesn't care losing, because the pleasure is in playing and on the potential winning the game can always lead us to. I notice this kind of gambler doesn't calculate his losses on long term. He just enjoys the moment and treats each gambling session as it was unique.

Let's say a gambler has a negative balance in gambling of 10,000$, counting every games he has already played during his life, but if on the next time he plays he hits a jackpot of 1000$, he will count it as profit and become hugely hyped, excited and overjoyed. Moreover, he can even say: who told I can't make profit sometimes?

While others will become depressed if they conclude how much money they have lost along their lives and that it's nearly impossible to recover such amount. At least, not without risks of losing more money yet.

It really differs from person to person, because each one has a different personality and mindset.

Even though the percentage might be low in comparing gamblers that don't mind loosing while olayer but focus in the fun and satisfactory pleasure they got from gambling, while others have winning games as their priority since that's their major aim and what brings them into playing the games, just that the teo has a big marginal difference from being held together as the Choice of each gamblers differs from each other when they play gamble.

Lol I don’t think there’s anything psychologically wrong with your buddy just because he enjoys gambling even if he loses. I think there are a lot of people who enjoy gambling, win or lose. I certainly don’t like losing money when I bet, but I still enjoy the aspect of gambling either way. Putting some coin on say a sports game is fun to me even if I lose because it made that game all the more enjoyable having “skin in the game”.
 

There are two types of gamblers: those playing skill based games where they can get an advantage and those throwing money into algorithms hoping to beat the odds that are destined to take all their money given a long enough time span. Skill based gamblers in games like poker know that sometimes you have to take risks that come with the distinct possibility of losing money, it is like the world of business - you just need to make enough right decisions compared to wrong decisions, at the right price, and you should eventually start to come out ahead. Losing is expected occasionally in such a game and cannot be excluded in the mind of any rational gambler, however all efforts should be made to minimize such outcomes by refining your playing skill over time.

You're wrong if you think no gambler can smile when they lose money. Usually gamblers leave good tips to dealers at table games with a smile, even if they've just lost a big amount of money when the dealer has been nice with them during the game.
Losing is part of the game because you can't win every time otherwise it wouldn't be a game of chance anymore. You've lost this time, but you'll maybe win next time. What is frustrating for a gambler is losing because the game was rigged.

if you play with an amount "that are you ready to trash" and in case of win or lose will not change ANYTHING in your life I am not surprised to have some pleasure. Likewise when you watch your favorite saga and stuff doesn't go how you have imagined. It can happens nothing wrong.
I think this is a correct approach for gambling. Have the pleasure to spend some time and that's all. Even in case of loss have "some pleasure".

you will only feel of not blaming yourself if you are indeed using your extra extra cash or as you said it "ready to trash". because if the money is allotted for your food or any other basic necessities, i don't think you will enjoy playing and be careless about it. and if you are losing, that's when you will get disappointed, angry to yourself and all the other emotions attached to it. so if you want to have fun even if you are on the losing side, make sure you are using your spare funds where you are not worried even if you lost it all.

Good examples, but in the case of jumping, I think it's about adrenaline. I heard that there is such a thing as an adrenaline addict and many fans of extreme sports are such. And yes, I noticed that such a scenario when a conditionally person buys a lottery ticket and hopes for a jackpot is very common. In fact, this is a profitable deal - for little money a person buys hope for radical changes in his life.

This is why gambling should be way to spend your spare time without losing big amounts. That guy at your neighborhood enjoys process and he does not focus on winning or losing streaks. Just process itself must be interesting to watch and bet instead of chasing losses or recovering from last bad session. It depends on user's expectations and you can smile while you lose too.

That happens for real. You will see gamblers here that do it for the sole pleasure and do not think of profiting because that's how gambling must be, they do it to entertain themselves.

They have to gamble like that so they wouldn't be problematic with the results if it is losing them money. Well, it is like becoming a way for them to have fun and that's not even new.

Until you have a one-on-one conversation with them, you shouldn't conclude that they derive pleasure from gambling even when they are losing. Yes it is a psychological issue(problem gambling).
My top three reasons why they keep gambling despite losing are:
1) They live in denial about being addicted to gambling. So they keep returning to the casino thinking they would win because they think they are in control.
2) They fail to realize that the odds are always against them. Maybe they already know this but just choose to ignore it and have blind faith that they could beat the system if they play more games.
3) They are just simply greedy.

I disagree with you on this,  there is no gambler who gambles for relaxation sake,  every gambler gambles to make quick money that is why it is called gambling not any other thing and the more you gamble the more you loose and get more addicted to gambling when it becomes an addiction you won't have control over it again it will become a psychological issue to you. People derive joy in gambling when they are losing because they have hope that on a very good day they are going to win and they will recover all the funds they lost.

I don't think there's something wrong with the guy. Maybe he just wanted to enjoy and have some fun. Just like when you go to a land base casino with your friends, have drink, play money that you can afford you lose. And at the end of the night, win or lose, when you go home you have something to talk to tomorrow and have some few laughs. I guess it boils down as where he gets his money, perhaps he didn't work his ass off earning that and he is willing to gamble it, even if he lose, derived pleasure from it.

It's just a normal thing and indeed it's the right thing to do not to be affected with your losses from gambling because no matter what you do, you can't beat the house because its always the house will win. And not all people are gambling merely because of profits, but they are gambling because they want to be entertained, have fun on their bets, and they find satisfaction whenever they gamble, either they end up losing or winning in the end. That's how a good gambler should be, as he can manage his emotions even if he's not winning at all.

1. Maybe he believed that one day, he will win big, that's why he still gamble even losing at money because by luck he can recoup everything.

2. He just played money that he can lose anyways, so it's doesn't matter to him. And as others pointed out, the rush, seeing how the dice roll, how what is the combination in slots and if you get the bonus etc...

3. Or he meet friends a long the way, and so when he gamble with them, he feels very happy with them around him.

Just few reasons that's on top of my head. And for sure you will find a lot of gamblers with this attitude.