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Title: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 20, 2022, 02:35:24 PM
So exciting time this week as we get to the draft.  Lots of trades with personel moving and top draft picks getting their teams.  

As a knick fan, dream scenario is moving Julius Randle to try and get the 4th pick.  They need ivey so bad on that roster.  And let obi get some playing time to see if he can make the leap.

Not expecting much but there is always hope.

What is everyone else hoping for in the draft for your favorite teams?


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Reid on June 20, 2022, 03:54:27 PM
Trade Randle for the 4th pick or just for the cap space? Wow, that will be a risky move but maybe it could work.
Barrett was the one who shine at the season while Randle is having a contagious off night. I'd do that if I were the Knicks management.
Looking at the mock draft by different analyst I see the Knicks picking Duren. I was confused first as they have Mitchell Robinson but to my shock that's because he is entering free agency so they need a new center.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 20, 2022, 04:52:42 PM
Trade Randle for the 4th pick or just for the cap space? Wow, that will be a risky move but maybe it could work.
Barrett was the one who shine at the season while Randle is having a contagious off night. I'd do that if I were the Knicks management.
Looking at the mock draft by different analyst I see the Knicks picking Duren. I was confused first as they have Mitchell Robinson but to my shock that's because he is entering free agency so they need a new center.

Yeah big mitch is a free agent and will get paid more than the Knicks can give him.  If they hold the 11 spot I'd rather them take mark Williams than duren. Julius is good but needs to go.  Knicks are real young with rj, IQ, obi, q grimes, etc. Julius and obi play the same spot.  Drafted obi in the early 1st he needs a shot otherwise it's a wasted pick.  And yeah Knicks haven't been set at pg for years.  Something ivey can do, I see a little Allen iverson in ivey.  Couldn't just be that as the salaries need to matchup so either a third team or a package around Randle and around that pick would be my guess if they could pull it off.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Hydrogen on June 20, 2022, 06:42:53 PM
Recently Michael Jordan's poor draft decisions have been mentioned in the media.

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MICHAEL JORDAN IS 'WORST NBA OWNER EVER,' BAYLESS SAYS

Then, there were the draft decisions.

"Michael Jordan is the man who took Adam Morrison over Brandon Roy. He took Kemba (Walker) over Klay (Thompson) and Kawhi (Leonard). Michael took Michael Kidd-Gilchrist over Bradley Beal, Cody Zeller over Giannis (Anteokounmpo), Noah Vonleh over Zach LaVine, Frank Kaminsky over Devin Booker. He even took Malik Monk over Donovan Mitchell.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/michael-jordan-is-worst-nba-owner-ever-bayless-says

As majority owner of the charlotte hornets, I hope Michael Jordan can do himself proud in this year's draft.

If only to offset the catastrophic draft calls he's made over the past decade.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 20, 2022, 08:42:40 PM
Recently Michael Jordan's poor draft decisions have been mentioned in the media.

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MICHAEL JORDAN IS 'WORST NBA OWNER EVER,' BAYLESS SAYS

Then, there were the draft decisions.

"Michael Jordan is the man who took Adam Morrison over Brandon Roy. He took Kemba (Walker) over Klay (Thompson) and Kawhi (Leonard). Michael took Michael Kidd-Gilchrist over Bradley Beal, Cody Zeller over Giannis (Anteokounmpo), Noah Vonleh over Zach LaVine, Frank Kaminsky over Devin Booker. He even took Malik Monk over Donovan Mitchell.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/michael-jordan-is-worst-nba-owner-ever-bayless-says

As majority owner of the charlotte hornets, I hope Michael Jordan can do himself proud in this year's draft.

If only to offset the catastrophic draft calls he's made over the past decade.

Mike is a lot of things but a good evaluator he is not.  Best thing he can do is keep his hands off the draft and let the professional evaluators do it.  That's why they have a job.  Don't expect this draft to be any different for Mike.  I do like bridges that was a good pick.  And ball was a gimme pick at 3 they had to take him.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: crzy on June 20, 2022, 09:26:29 PM
Recently Michael Jordan's poor draft decisions have been mentioned in the media.

Quote
MICHAEL JORDAN IS 'WORST NBA OWNER EVER,' BAYLESS SAYS

Then, there were the draft decisions.

"Michael Jordan is the man who took Adam Morrison over Brandon Roy. He took Kemba (Walker) over Klay (Thompson) and Kawhi (Leonard). Michael took Michael Kidd-Gilchrist over Bradley Beal, Cody Zeller over Giannis (Anteokounmpo), Noah Vonleh over Zach LaVine, Frank Kaminsky over Devin Booker. He even took Malik Monk over Donovan Mitchell.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/michael-jordan-is-worst-nba-owner-ever-bayless-says

As majority owner of the charlotte hornets, I hope Michael Jordan can do himself proud in this year's draft.

If only to offset the catastrophic draft calls he's made over the past decade.
Can the board still need to approve this or Michael always have the last word here?
We know the previous draft and deals, and seriously he is not that good so better to get off the hands here or maybe something is going on with his team. Anyway, there’s a lot of interesting players on the draft list, honestly I’m hoping for our native player Kai Sotto to get drafted and have the chance to play in NBA, we’re still hoping for this.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Yogee on June 20, 2022, 10:54:17 PM
It looks like the top teams for the draft are going to pick some big guys in the first round. Word is that Jabari Smith will be the no. 1 for Orlando Magic.

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Can the board still need to approve this or Michael always have the last word here?
This is an internal matter but I think it's a collective decision and not his alone. It's possible that their vote on who to pick is based on the number of their shares so that's the same as saying his decision weigh more than the rest of the board.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 20, 2022, 11:36:04 PM
It looks like the top teams for the draft are going to pick some big guys in the first round. Word is that Jabari Smith will be the no. 1 for Orlando Magic.

....
Can the board still need to approve this or Michael always have the last word here?
This is an internal matter but I think it's a collective decision and not his alone. It's possible that their vote on who to pick is based on the number of their shares so that's the same as saying his decision weigh more than the rest of the board.

Yeah it's either Jabari, chet or Paulo.  All fine players.  Chet has the most risk reward to me.  Does he become Kevin Durant lanky or does he get muscled right out of the NBA.  I'd go with Jabari or Paulo over chet since the floor is so high on those guys.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: ChiBitCTy on June 20, 2022, 11:41:52 PM
Kind of sad that the season is already over. I think we had a pretty good year overall and finals. That said I think my Chicago Bulls have a lot of work that needs to be take care of if they want to be competitive on a championship level. I think they may be best suited living their 18th pick in the first round for a potential big who’s good on defense. Maybe pair the 18th pick plus Cobi White for a sold piece.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: harizen on June 20, 2022, 11:43:30 PM

As far as my favorite team is concerned, Dallas Mavericks look like they will focus on getting a big man in this upcoming NBA Draft.

They are expecting that some good big men prospects are still selective since they will have the 26th pick and it's considered late picks as most top prospects are being picked for at least 15 picks. But who knows there will be a rising star at that pick.

I will follow the progress of this. Although every team is now playing small, getting a big man is a good move for me by the Dallas Mavericks as there are already lots of backcourt gunners for this team especially when Tim Hardaway Jr. is now back in action. Maxi Kleber is also not a defensive type even though he's playing 4 or 5.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 21, 2022, 12:39:59 AM
Kind of sad that the season is already over. I think we had a pretty good year overall and finals. That said I think my Chicago Bulls have a lot of work that needs to be take care of if they want to be competitive on a championship level. I think they may be best suited living their 18th pick in the first round for a potential big who’s good on defense. Maybe pair the 18th pick plus Cobi White for a sold piece.

Don't think he slips but if the bulls can snag mark Williams that would be optimal for them.  Hoping the Knicks actually take him 11th.  He's great on the pick and roll.  Cleans up anything around the rim.  AND he can hit foul shots so you can't just hack the dude.  Wingspan is unreal and is a worker amd great teammate.  Checks all the big man boxes for me.  I hate 7 footers standing 30 feet away from the bucket.  Gimme a 1990s big man any day.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 21, 2022, 12:55:54 PM
..honestly I’m hoping for our native player Kai Sotto to get drafted and have the chance to play in NBA, we’re still hoping for this.

I am hoping as well, because if that will happen, he will be the first full blooded Filipino that ever play in the NBA. His ranking is not so good now, but hopefully, there are some good surprises that will happen and he will be drafted. This guy is still very young, he will be able to develop himself overtime because he has the height and the ability to dribble the ball as a big man.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: danherbias07 on June 21, 2022, 01:18:01 PM
Kind of sad that the season is already over. I think we had a pretty good year overall and finals. That said I think my Chicago Bulls have a lot of work that needs to be take care of if they want to be competitive on a championship level. I think they may be best suited living their 18th pick in the first round for a potential big who’s good on defense. Maybe pair the 18th pick plus Cobi White for a sold piece.
Indeed they do. The Chicago Bulls went through health problems and their stars have no one to cover for them while they are at rest. What they need is a strong bench that could facilitate in their worst times. Perhaps this season they will be doing more trades to fill that problem in their roster.
If they cannot find a big man then perhaps a quality shooter will do them good. They have DeMar and LaVine covering the mid-range and paint attacks with their athleticism but they have none who can space the floor. Someone who is scary enough to be left in the 3-point line.

How about Nikola Jovic? Versatile with shooting capabilities at 6'10.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: ultrloa on June 21, 2022, 01:18:50 PM
Recently Michael Jordan's poor draft decisions have been mentioned in the media.

Quote
MICHAEL JORDAN IS 'WORST NBA OWNER EVER,' BAYLESS SAYS

Then, there were the draft decisions.

"Michael Jordan is the man who took Adam Morrison over Brandon Roy. He took Kemba (Walker) over Klay (Thompson) and Kawhi (Leonard). Michael took Michael Kidd-Gilchrist over Bradley Beal, Cody Zeller over Giannis (Anteokounmpo), Noah Vonleh over Zach LaVine, Frank Kaminsky over Devin Booker. He even took Malik Monk over Donovan Mitchell.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/michael-jordan-is-worst-nba-owner-ever-bayless-says

As majority owner of the charlotte hornets, I hope Michael Jordan can do himself proud in this year's draft.

If only to offset the catastrophic draft calls he's made over the past decade.
Anyway, there’s a lot of interesting players on the draft list, honestly I’m hoping for our native player Kai Sotto to get drafted and have the chance to play in NBA, we’re still hoping for this.

Honestly I'm not expecting to much on Kai Sotto on this draft because for seeing his performance on NBL it really didn't give any huge impact to his career because mostly we can see him on bench and his performance is not totally amazing especially if we take it on NBA level. But we do hope that his private workouts from different NBA team works very well because if that one gives different taste and one of the scouts would find him helpful to his team then it will be a huge honor that there is one native Filipino player that can hop on NBA.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: casperBGD on June 22, 2022, 02:16:00 PM
Recently Michael Jordan's poor draft decisions have been mentioned in the media.


wasn't aware of those decisions by Jordan, but that confirms that great player does not mean great manager or scout

but, it is easy to say those decision were wrong now, and it is hard to make them when draft is
hopefully, he will improve their decisions with this year draft, but I am doubtfull about that, since he does not have skills obviously


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: yazher on June 22, 2022, 03:09:11 PM

As majority owner of the charlotte hornets, I hope Michael Jordan can do himself proud in this year's draft.

If only to offset the catastrophic draft calls he's made over the past decade.

Damn man! that's a huge list of unluck every season do you really hope he can get something better this year? Nevertheless, it's just part of the game where you don't really know how they will gonna be in the actual NBA game because these new players are really hard to predict when they are a total rookie and only a few have the exception. The last rookie I know who has all the recipes of being a superstar was Williamson but injury got him good. Hope to see his comeback as a competitive and more strong version of himself.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Smack That Ace on June 23, 2022, 12:15:41 AM
Recently Michael Jordan's poor draft decisions have been mentioned in the media.
wasn't aware of those decisions by Jordan, but that confirms that great player does not mean great manager or scout
but, it is easy to say those decision were wrong now, and it is hard to make them when draft is
hopefully, he will improve their decisions with this year draft, but I am doubtfull about that, since he does not have skills obviously

He was a great player but I doubt that anyone will be able to say he is a good owner or scout after the decisions that he took.
Sad to see a legend being questioned by regular people for his decisions.




Damn man! that's a huge list of unluck every season do you really hope he can get something better this year? Nevertheless, it's just part of the game where you don't really know how they will gonna be in the actual NBA game because these new players are really hard to predict when they are a total rookie and only a few have the exception. The last rookie I know who has all the recipes of being a superstar was Williamson but injury got him good. Hope to see his comeback as a competitive and more strong version of himself.

I think that he should also know that the decisions that he took are not really good.
I don't think it is going to be any better later. People are saying that he is the worst NBA owner ever and even though I really don't want to agree with that I have to say I can prove that wrong as well.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 23, 2022, 12:21:14 AM
Recently Michael Jordan's poor draft decisions have been mentioned in the media.
wasn't aware of those decisions by Jordan, but that confirms that great player does not mean great manager or scout
but, it is easy to say those decision were wrong now, and it is hard to make them when draft is
hopefully, he will improve their decisions with this year draft, but I am doubtfull about that, since he does not have skills obviously

He was a great player but I doubt that anyone will be able to say he is a good owner or scout after the decisions that he took.
Sad to see a legend being questioned by regular people for his decisions.




Damn man! that's a huge list of unluck every season do you really hope he can get something better this year? Nevertheless, it's just part of the game where you don't really know how they will gonna be in the actual NBA game because these new players are really hard to predict when they are a total rookie and only a few have the exception. The last rookie I know who has all the recipes of being a superstar was Williamson but injury got him good. Hope to see his comeback as a competitive and more strong version of himself.

I think that he should also know that the decisions that he took are not really good.
I don't think it is going to be any better later. People are saying that he is the worst NBA owner ever and even though I really don't want to agree with that I have to say I can prove that wrong as well.

Yeah it is, ego sometimes gets to these guys and they think that playing translates into scouting or coaching.  Entirely different skills etc.

With that being said knicks might be resigning big mitch it seems like so a big is out of the question.  I wouldn't mind Malawi from Ohio state.  Kid pouted it on at the end of the year.  Dream scenario is still a trade with the kings for the #4 and get ivey in the rotation.  Doubt that happens though.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Harkorede on June 23, 2022, 05:02:24 AM
I was looking to place a bet on who the first pick of this year's NBA Draft would be, and I was very sure that the last time(way less than 24 hours ago) I checked the odds on Sportsbet.io, Jabari Smith was offered at around 1.67 to be first pick. However, the odds has reduced significantly to an absurd and not bet-worthy 1.24, could there have been some more insider information released to have such a drastic change or it's just bettor putting in a lot of stake on Jabari smith.

Here is the latest odds update as at time of this post as taken from: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/usa/nba/nba-21-22-60f9572f41ddce1ac040cdfa

https://i.imgur.com/qMSlUva.png


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Vaculin on June 23, 2022, 09:50:46 AM
Sotto's odds have improved from 500 to 251, but of course, he has no chance to be the first pick.

personally, I have not followed the players that are in the draft pick now, but soon when they will be in the NBA, we will see if they are really worthy to play with the best teams. So my question here, is it worth to take Banchero for a 1.50 odds? Isn't it overvalued? considering there are plenty of potential players also to be a top pick?


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: danherbias07 on June 23, 2022, 11:31:24 AM
I was looking to place a bet on who the first pick of this year's NBA Draft would be, and I was very sure that the last time(way less than 24 hours ago) I checked the odds on Sportsbet.io, Jabari Smith was offered at around 1.67 to be first pick. However, the odds has reduced significantly to an absurd and not bet-worthy 1.24, could there have been some more insider information released to have such a drastic change or it's just bettor putting in a lot of stake on Jabari smith.

Here is the latest odds update as at time of this post as taken from: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/usa/nba/nba-21-22-60f9572f41ddce1ac040cdfa

https://i.imgur.com/qMSlUva.png
Mock drafts of different known websites of basketball analysis might have something to do about the absurd change that you were saying.
I wish we had a copy of the first one to compare it. Yes, it's not worth it at Sportsbet but at Stake.com it might still be profitable.  ;D
https://stake.com/sports/outright/basketball/usa/nba/42070332-nba-21-22
https://i.imgur.com/FtexRep.png
I already put my bet for Jabari Smith at 1st pick @2.14 and Paolo Banchero as my 2nd pick @8.00. I wish it will hit. We will never know as sometimes it depends on what a team really needs. Just one of it goes right and I can still make some money.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Harkorede on June 23, 2022, 11:38:39 AM
I was looking to place a bet on who the first pick of this year's NBA Draft would be, and I was very sure that the last time(way less than 24 hours ago) I checked the odds on Sportsbet.io, Jabari Smith was offered at around 1.67 to be first pick. However, the odds has reduced significantly to an absurd and not bet-worthy 1.24, could there have been some more insider information released to have such a drastic change or it's just bettor putting in a lot of stake on Jabari smith.

Here is the latest odds update as at time of this post as taken from: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/usa/nba/nba-21-22-60f9572f41ddce1ac040cdfa

https://i.imgur.com/qMSlUva.png
Mock drafts of different known websites of basketball analysis might have something to do about the absurd change that you were saying.
I wish we had a copy of the first one to compare it. Yes, it's not worth it at Sportsbet but at Stake.com it might still be profitable.  ;D
https://stake.com/sports/outright/basketball/usa/nba/42070332-nba-21-22
https://i.imgur.com/FtexRep.png
I already put my bet for Jabari Smith at 1st pick @2.14 and Paolo Banchero as my 2nd pick @8.00. I wish it will hit. We will never know as sometimes it depends on what a team really needs. Just one of it goes right and I can still make some money.

I literally just saw the change in odds yet again, I think there's more to this than just the mock drafts or analysis from different sources, my post is just about 6 hours ago, so  I don't think Banchero drop from 3.10 to just 1.50 over analysis, but I guess we'll find out soon enough, I would have been happy If I had put some money on the 3 Odds initially.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Yamifoud on June 23, 2022, 12:01:21 PM
I already put my bet for Jabari Smith at 1st pick @2.14 and Paolo Banchero as my 2nd pick @8.00. I wish it will hit. We will never know as sometimes it depends on what a team really needs. Just one of it goes right and I can still make some money.

I think I'm gonna follow your bet, let me tail your bet @danherbias07. I like the odds of Paolo Banchero  to be the 2nd pick, maybe I'll just stick with that one as that 8.00 is quite attractive to pass on. Hopefully our bet will hit, especially the x8.00. ;D


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 23, 2022, 01:51:22 PM
Sotto's odds have improved from 500 to 251, but of course, he has no chance to be the first pick.

personally, I have not followed the players that are in the draft pick now, but soon when they will be in the NBA, we will see if they are really worthy to play with the best teams. So my question here, is it worth to take Banchero for a 1.50 odds? Isn't it overvalued? considering there are plenty of potential players also to be a top pick?

There really are only 3 players in play for the #1 pick, Paulo, chet and Jabari.  With that being said Jabari and Paulo have such high floors and chet is an unknown because of how lanky he is.  I like Jabari with the #1, chet at the 2 spot (okc is real high on him) and Paulo at the 3 spot.  If I was going to bet it that's how I'd lay it in. 


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: ChiBitCTy on June 23, 2022, 09:28:59 PM
Kind of sad that the season is already over. I think we had a pretty good year overall and finals. That said I think my Chicago Bulls have a lot of work that needs to be take care of if they want to be competitive on a championship level. I think they may be best suited living their 18th pick in the first round for a potential big who’s good on defense. Maybe pair the 18th pick plus Cobi White for a sold piece.

Don't think he slips but if the bulls can snag mark Williams that would be optimal for them.  Hoping the Knicks actually take him 11th.  He's great on the pick and roll.  Cleans up anything around the rim.  AND he can hit foul shots so you can't just hack the dude.  Wingspan is unreal and is a worker amd great teammate.  Checks all the big man boxes for me.  I hate 7 footers standing 30 feet away from the bucket.  Gimme a 1990s big man any day.

There is some talk that the Bulls may try and trade up. 

Kind of sad that the season is already over. I think we had a pretty good year overall and finals. That said I think my Chicago Bulls have a lot of work that needs to be take care of if they want to be competitive on a championship level. I think they may be best suited living their 18th pick in the first round for a potential big who’s good on defense. Maybe pair the 18th pick plus Cobi White for a sold piece.
Indeed they do. The Chicago Bulls went through health problems and their stars have no one to cover for them while they are at rest. What they need is a strong bench that could facilitate in their worst times. Perhaps this season they will be doing more trades to fill that problem in their roster.
If they cannot find a big man then perhaps a quality shooter will do them good. They have DeMar and LaVine covering the mid-range and paint attacks with their athleticism but they have none who can space the floor. Someone who is scary enough to be left in the 3-point line.

How about Nikola Jovic? Versatile with shooting capabilities at 6'10.

Nikola looks pretty legit.  The Bulls have been pretty tight lipped about what they plan on doing.  Basically all we know as of right now..

“We’ve always been ready for what comes our way,’’ Karnisovas said when asked about staying put at No. 18 and simply adding to the current core. “So hopefully we can keep the core together, and like you said, work around the margins. But we’re gonna look at free agents and see what else we need, what do we need to add. We’re gonna be in the draft, picking at 18, we still have Portland’s pick, so we have a couple assets, and we’ll see what happens.’’ https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2022/6/22/23178575/bulls-operating-in-dark-as-the-thursday-nba-draft-nears


Looking forward to tonights draft!


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 23, 2022, 10:41:02 PM
Picks 7 and 4 are probably the most up for trade but depending on where you are coming from its gonna take some weight to get to the 4 to have a shot at Murray or ivey. Unless you are one piece away from competing for a championship I'm usually reluctant to deal future firsts because you never know where they are gonna land and how bad it will hurt.  Can't wait.  Draft then summer league let's go!!! Lol


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: morvillz7z on June 23, 2022, 11:10:24 PM
<...> I like Jabari with the #1, chet at the 2 spot (okc is real high on him) and Paulo at the 3 spot.  If I was going to bet it that's how I'd lay it in. 

^ This is exactly how i see the top three go.

Orlando won't take any chances with the first pick, instead, they'll go the safest pick possible, and that's Jabari. Sam Presti will be able to be more creative with his decisions with OKC having a ton of picks over the next couple of years, Holmgren fits in perfectly there. Houston might be onto something with Banchero, Jalen Green, and M. Porter Jr....i quite like the thought of those three playing together.

Picks 7 and 4 are probably the most up for trade but depending on where you are coming from its gonna take some weight to get to the 4 to have a shot at Murray or ivey. Unless you are one piece away from competing for a championship I'm usually reluctant to deal future firsts because you never know where they are gonna land and how bad it will hurt.  Can't wait.  Draft then summer league let's go!!! Lol

Blazers traded for J. Grant yesterday, i won't be surprised if they deal the 7th pick, if of course, the right deal presents itself. Dame will be 32 in a few weeks, Shaedon Sharpe will probably be available at 7, maybe they draft him and look for the future instead?

We all know what the Kings will do, they will fuck up again. Take Ivey and then trade Davion or Fox, just like they did with Haliburton... :D


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Bttzed03 on June 24, 2022, 03:04:47 AM
The first three teams to pick went for bigs but not at the order most people expected. Magic went for Banchero instead of Smith. Jabari was stolen by the Rockets. I don't know why why the Thunders passed up on him but a 7'0" Chet Holmgren with a decent J isn't that bad.

I think Heat also got a good one with Nikola Jovic.

Sotto's odds have improved from 500 to 251, but of course, he has no chance to be the first pick.
Slim chance even in round 2. Maybe next year's draft.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Vaculin on June 24, 2022, 04:24:32 AM
Sotto's odds have improved from 500 to 251, but of course, he has no chance to be the first pick.

personally, I have not followed the players that are in the draft pick now, but soon when they will be in the NBA, we will see if they are really worthy to play with the best teams. So my question here, is it worth to take Banchero for a 1.50 odds? Isn't it overvalued? considering there are plenty of potential players also to be a top pick?

There really are only 3 players in play for the #1 pick, Paulo, chet and Jabari.  With that being said Jabari and Paulo have such high floors and chet is an unknown because of how lanky he is.  I like Jabari with the #1, chet at the 2 spot (okc is real high on him) and Paulo at the 3 spot.  If I was going to bet it that's how I'd lay it in. 

Well, that seemed to be a good pick, so good luck with that man. At least we don't bet on what the bookie showed as the favorite on the number 1 pick.  Jabari is really a good choice for the number 1 pick, so I wish you get that one.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: vennali on June 24, 2022, 04:32:29 AM
Orlando Magic take the first pick of the NBA draft and its Paolo Banchero from Duke. Paolo is a 6'10" forward and the 2nd Pick of the draft done by OKC is Chet Holmgren from Gonzaga University. Chet is a 7ft center. 3rd pick is Jabari Smith Jr. from Auburn University. Jabari is a 6'10" forward.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: danherbias07 on June 24, 2022, 05:05:06 AM
Oh damn, the house wins.  ;D Their blueprint was right for the 1st and 2nd pick. We as fans didn't expect that as there's a lot of talk about Jabari being the first pick considering the missing piece of the Orlando Magic. He ended up in the 3rd pick for the Houston Rockets.
Well, that's it and I think the Rockets are now filled with freshmen with trades of that 1st round ending up to them. When we talk about the greatest overhaul of a team, this could be it.
Two sophomores Jalen Green and Sengun combined with a freshman Jabari Smith. Let's see what they can do when the game starts.
Let's do this again next year wheelz1200.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: xzone on June 24, 2022, 05:12:24 AM
Jabari Smith is one of the basketball players I'm most curious about in this draft and who I think has the highest potential. I think he's a good choice for the Houston Rockets.
The team will be more successful this year, the contribution of its young and quality players will be very valuable :)


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Natalim on June 24, 2022, 05:22:42 AM
Jabari Smith is one of the basketball players I'm most curious about in this draft and who I think has the highest potential. I think he's a good choice for the Houston Rockets.
The team will be more successful this year, the contribution of its young and quality players will be very valuable :)
I don't expect a lot of contribution from a rookie, we never know if they can carry their talent in the NBA. And also, the Rockets are still in the rebuilding stage, so success won't come so easy, they need to create good chemistry first, and it seemed like Christian Wood will be traded.

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/22/23177184/analyzing-what-the-dallas-mavericks-are-losing-in-the-christian-wood-trade


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: xzone on June 24, 2022, 05:33:00 AM
Jabari Smith is one of the basketball players I'm most curious about in this draft and who I think has the highest potential. I think he's a good choice for the Houston Rockets.
The team will be more successful this year, the contribution of its young and quality players will be very valuable :)
I don't expect a lot of contribution from a rookie, we never know if they can carry their talent in the NBA. And also, the Rockets are still in the rebuilding stage, so success won't come so easy, they need to create good chemistry first, and it seemed like Christian Wood will be traded.

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/22/23177184/analyzing-what-the-dallas-mavericks-are-losing-in-the-christian-wood-trade

Of course, a rookie may not be able to show their full performance in a short time, but the Houston Rockets have been a good team for young players to shine. We saw this with Alperen Şengün last year, she became an actress liked by many and we can say that she is getting better every day.
Jabari Smith's potential is quite high and I think if he doesn't have a problem, he may be one of the basketball players whose name we hear the most in the next 10 years :)


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Dave1 on June 24, 2022, 06:11:38 AM
Jabari Smith is one of the basketball players I'm most curious about in this draft and who I think has the highest potential. I think he's a good choice for the Houston Rockets.
The team will be more successful this year, the contribution of its young and quality players will be very valuable :)
I don't expect a lot of contribution from a rookie, we never know if they can carry their talent in the NBA. And also, the Rockets are still in the rebuilding stage, so success won't come so easy, they need to create good chemistry first, and it seemed like Christian Wood will be traded.

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/22/23177184/analyzing-what-the-dallas-mavericks-are-losing-in-the-christian-wood-trade

Of course, a rookie may not be able to show their full performance in a short time, but the Houston Rockets have been a good team for young players to shine. We saw this with Alperen Şengün last year, she became an actress liked by many and we can say that she is getting better every day.
Jabari Smith's potential is quite high and I think if he doesn't have a problem, he may be one of the basketball players whose name we hear the most in the next 10 years :)

That's the problem with some rookies though, it's either they are a bust or not. Wood being traded means that they will go full on Alperen Şengün as their center. And they have a long of still young players being developed including Jabari Smith. So we will see how this rookies and sophomores will developed into a great player. So for now, let's hope that this breed of drafted players are names that we are going to hear because they are very good and not a missed.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Sanitough on June 24, 2022, 06:22:41 AM
Jabari Smith is one of the basketball players I'm most curious about in this draft and who I think has the highest potential. I think he's a good choice for the Houston Rockets.
The team will be more successful this year, the contribution of its young and quality players will be very valuable :)
I don't expect a lot of contribution from a rookie, we never know if they can carry their talent in the NBA. And also, the Rockets are still in the rebuilding stage, so success won't come so easy, they need to create good chemistry first, and it seemed like Christian Wood will be traded.

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/22/23177184/analyzing-what-the-dallas-mavericks-are-losing-in-the-christian-wood-trade

Of course, a rookie may not be able to show their full performance in a short time, but the Houston Rockets have been a good team for young players to shine. We saw this with Alperen Şengün last year, she became an actress liked by many and we can say that she is getting better every day.
Jabari Smith's potential is quite high and I think if he doesn't have a problem, he may be one of the basketball players whose name we hear the most in the next 10 years :)

That's the problem with some rookies though, it's either they are a bust or not. Wood being traded means that they will go full on Alperen Şengün as their center. And they have a long of still young players being developed including Jabari Smith. So we will see how this rookies and sophomores will developed into a great player. So for now, let's hope that this breed of drafted players are names that we are going to hear because they are very good and not a missed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the rookies in the past have made a big impact in the NBA yet. I'm talking about the same impact that Lebron, Kyrie, and Williamson impact on their rookie year after they got drafted. I don't want to expect a lot from these rookies, but I hope I'm wrong and they'll surprise me.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Bttzed03 on June 24, 2022, 06:59:44 AM
~ Well, that's it and I think the Rockets are now filled with freshmen with trades of that 1st round ending up to them. When we talk about the greatest overhaul of a team, this could be it.
Two sophomores Jalen Green and Sengun combined with a freshman Jabari Smith. Let's see what they can do when the game starts.
A team mostly in their (early) 20's is going to be exciting to watch. I think they will wreak havoc in the western conference and they won't be fearful of anyone ;D We'll probably see a lot high flying action from them (good for game highlights). With Wall and Schroder on the trading block/free agency, Eric Gordon (if not traded) might assume the PG role. He'll probably have fun passing lobs to these young guys.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: Baofeng on June 24, 2022, 07:56:18 AM
~ Well, that's it and I think the Rockets are now filled with freshmen with trades of that 1st round ending up to them. When we talk about the greatest overhaul of a team, this could be it.
Two sophomores Jalen Green and Sengun combined with a freshman Jabari Smith. Let's see what they can do when the game starts.
A team mostly in their (early) 20's is going to be exciting to watch. I think they will wreak havoc in the western conference and they won't be fearful of anyone ;D We'll probably see a lot high flying action from them (good for game highlights). With Wall and Schroder on the free agency, Eric Gordon (if not traded) might assume the PG role. He'll probably have fun passing lobs to these young guys.

Yeah and that's the luxury they got for now, and willing to great a great player in C Wood still very young at 26. But they still have another talent to develop in Sengun at that position and then Jalen Green and Kevin Porter Jr. So we might see a lot of high and electrifying dunks and maybe some close out games too with this young guys.

So this is the complete list of 1st round drafts:

Quote
1st Round:

1. Magic draft Paolo Banchero (Duke)

2. Thunder draft Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga)

3. Rockets draft Jabari Smith (Auburn)

4. Kings draft Keegan Murray (Iowa)

5. Pistons draft Jaden Ivey (Purdue)

6. Pacers draft Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona)

7. Blazers draft Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky)

8. Pelicans draft Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite)

9. Spurs draft Jeremy Sochan (Baylor)

10. Wizards draft Johnny Davis (Wisconsin)

11. Knicks draft Ousmane Dieng (New Zealand Breakers) — Traded to OKC

12. Thunder draft Jalen Williams (Santa Clara)

13. Hornets draft Jalen Duren (Memphis) — Traded to DET in 3-team deal

14. Cavaliers draft Ochai Agbaji (Kansas)

15. Hornets draft Mark Williams (Duke)

16. Hawks draft A.J. Griffin (Duke)

17. Rockets draft Tari Eason (LSU)

18. Bulls draft Dalen Terry (Arizona)

19. Timberwolves draft Jake LaRavia (Wake Forest) — Reportedly traded to MEM

20. Spurs draft Malaki Branham (Ohio State)

21. Nuggets draft Christian Braun (Kansas)

22. Grizzlies draft Walker Kessler (Auburn) — Reportedly traded to MIN

23. Sixers draft David Roddy (Colorado State) — Traded to MEM

24. Bucks draft MarJon Beauchamp (G League Ignite)

25. Spurs draft Blake Wesley (Notre Dame)

26. Mavericks draft Wendell Moore Jr. (Duke) — Reportedly traded to MIN

27. Heat draft Nikola Jovic (Mega Mozzart)

28. Warriors draft Patrick Baldwin Jr. (Milwaukee)

29. Grizzlies draft TyTy Washington Jr. (Kentucky) — Reportedly traded to MIN

30. Thunder draft Peyton Watson (UCLA) — Traded to DEN

https://www.nba.com/news/2022-nba-draft-order


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 24, 2022, 11:34:46 AM
~ Well, that's it and I think the Rockets are now filled with freshmen with trades of that 1st round ending up to them. When we talk about the greatest overhaul of a team, this could be it.
Two sophomores Jalen Green and Sengun combined with a freshman Jabari Smith. Let's see what they can do when the game starts.
A team mostly in their (early) 20's is going to be exciting to watch. I think they will wreak havoc in the western conference and they won't be fearful of anyone ;D We'll probably see a lot high flying action from them (good for game highlights). With Wall and Schroder on the free agency, Eric Gordon (if not traded) might assume the PG role. He'll probably have fun passing lobs to these young guys.

Yeah and that's the luxury they got for now, and willing to great a great player in C Wood still very young at 26. But they still have another talent to develop in Sengun at that position and then Jalen Green and Kevin Porter Jr. So we might see a lot of high and electrifying dunks and maybe some close out games too with this young guys.

That's what I also speculate on why the Rockets just gave up a good player in Christian Wood. But maybe they wanted Sengun to be their center and wait for him to developed together with the other guys in the roster. Jabari Smith though was being eyed as the 1st pick, but luck is on the side of the Rockets as Banchero first to the Magic and then Holmgren second to the Thunder.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: danherbias07 on June 24, 2022, 01:44:01 PM
~ Well, that's it and I think the Rockets are now filled with freshmen with trades of that 1st round ending up to them. When we talk about the greatest overhaul of a team, this could be it.
Two sophomores Jalen Green and Sengun combined with a freshman Jabari Smith. Let's see what they can do when the game starts.
A team mostly in their (early) 20's is going to be exciting to watch. I think they will wreak havoc in the western conference and they won't be fearful of anyone ;D We'll probably see a lot high flying action from them (good for game highlights). With Wall and Schroder on the trading block/free agency, Eric Gordon (if not traded) might assume the PG role. He'll probably have fun passing lobs to these young guys.
Sure will. I think the Rockets have some big plans coming around, it may not be for next year but for their future. Nurturing these new guys and who knows they might find their gem in one of them.

I am glad wheelz1200 opened up a thread like this to focus solely on Drafted players. I mean this gives us the opportunity to recognize them more even with just a short amount of time that the Draft Pick event will happen. Unlike with the NBA discussion thread where the conversation is wild, it becomes confusing where it will go.  :D But that is also why it is fun there.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 24, 2022, 06:24:25 PM
~ Well, that's it and I think the Rockets are now filled with freshmen with trades of that 1st round ending up to them. When we talk about the greatest overhaul of a team, this could be it.
Two sophomores Jalen Green and Sengun combined with a freshman Jabari Smith. Let's see what they can do when the game starts.
A team mostly in their (early) 20's is going to be exciting to watch. I think they will wreak havoc in the western conference and they won't be fearful of anyone ;D We'll probably see a lot high flying action from them (good for game highlights). With Wall and Schroder on the trading block/free agency, Eric Gordon (if not traded) might assume the PG role. He'll probably have fun passing lobs to these young guys.
Sure will. I think the Rockets have some big plans coming around, it may not be for next year but for their future. Nurturing these new guys and who knows they might find their gem in one of them.

I am glad wheelz1200 opened up a thread like this to focus solely on Drafted players. I mean this gives us the opportunity to recognize them more even with just a short amount of time that the Draft Pick event will happen. Unlike with the NBA discussion thread where the conversation is wild, it becomes confusing where it will go.  :D But that is also why it is fun there.

That's why I wanted to open this one up.  The draft is always fun but in the other thread the convo will get disjointed. 

With that being said the Knicks traded away their first round pick and kemba walker a coue future 2nd rounders and got 3 first round draft picks in the future in return lol.  The Knicks have 4 first round picks next year what are they doing lol.

Looks like they are clearing capital to make a run at over paying jalen Brunson.  Not sure if I like that route.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: FanEagle on June 24, 2022, 08:49:52 PM
Weird to see that the player that everyone assumed would go highest, ended up going third in the draft. I am not saying that it's unlikely, that type of stuff happened before, so it is normal based on how scouting works and how players fit certain teams better than other players.

I think Spurs did something special, that one is the real pick that really shocked me and probably rest of the world as well. If you looked at the odds, Sochan wasn't even on the list for many, and the ones that did, had him going 20th+ or so in most cases. Dude going on 9th to Spurs really shows that they are committed to rebuilding, and not just mediocre play, like full on tanking rebuilding.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 24, 2022, 09:56:32 PM
Weird to see that the player that everyone assumed would go highest, ended up going third in the draft. I am not saying that it's unlikely, that type of stuff happened before, so it is normal based on how scouting works and how players fit certain teams better than other players.

I think Spurs did something special, that one is the real pick that really shocked me and probably rest of the world as well. If you looked at the odds, Sochan wasn't even on the list for many, and the ones that did, had him going 20th+ or so in most cases. Dude going on 9th to Spurs really shows that they are committed to rebuilding, and not just mediocre play, like full on tanking rebuilding.

This was an odd year with the top 3 equally rated there was no clear cut number 1.  Like next year Victor wem is pretty much the 1 and then the rest (scoot Henderson can press for the 1 if he is lights out this year.)

Social had ratings starting at the 8 through mid teens I think he was always in the hunt for lottery.  At the power forward position as a freshman can guard spots 1-5, his floor is so high because of his defense.  If he grows his offense he could end up being one of the top players in the entire draft.  Was hoping he slipped to the Knicks too.


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 27, 2022, 10:49:36 PM
Should I keep this thread open to talk specifically about the draft or the newly drafted players?  Don't want to keep it open if no one wants to discuss the draft.  Thoughts?


Title: Re: 2022 NBA draft
Post by: jossiel on June 27, 2022, 11:14:05 PM
Should I keep this thread open to talk specifically about the draft or the newly drafted players?  Don't want to keep it open if no one wants to discuss the draft.  Thoughts?
I think it's okay to keep it open for both topics.

There has been undrafted players but they got a two-way contract so this thread still fits them perfectly and of course, to those that has been drafted.

There's not that much attention for this year's draft but I think we just need to keep on discussing about them and the potentials of the draftees. The media hype isn't that much for them.