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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: newnft on June 20, 2022, 03:08:11 PM



Title: bitcoin roulete
Post by: newnft on June 20, 2022, 03:08:11 PM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Oshosondy on June 20, 2022, 04:33:49 PM
You do not have to confuse people, if you play a roulette with bitcoin, it can be called bitcoin roulette just because you are playing with bitcoin. There are some articles that indicate casinos that people can play roulette that accept bitcoin and such can be called bitcoin roulette. There is no other special thing about it. If you see most casinos on this forum, you will see that they support roulette and they support bitcoin deposit and withdrawal.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: bitbollo on June 20, 2022, 04:40:56 PM
in this case we need to trust both the site that operate such scheme and the security system adopted.
Who will pay btc for each win? Did you have some funds ? These funds are escrowed?

I think you need to explain and test this system before any official launch.
Please note that due double spending/blocksize/fees estimation etc these kind of games are really hard to be deployed in real life setting.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: LoyceMobile on June 20, 2022, 05:01:16 PM
a list of addresses
If you're planning an on-forum roulette game, I don't expect many people to join. Even EV+ games have never been popular to spend money on.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 20, 2022, 05:26:27 PM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results
How exactly it will be done?
If you are talking about a roulette table, selecting the numbers and rolling the ball then don't we have it will all the bitcoin casinos in their live casino sections? The game is called roulette and just because people will be placing bets with btc does not give it another name.

May you give more details of the idea?


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: fiulpro on June 20, 2022, 05:31:04 PM
You can find this setting in each and every site on the forum, they have roulette and they have every other thing that you might need but the game that you are implying might be different so you would have to explain yourself more and answer this question:

Why should the people come to you ?
Why should they play it seperate and not on am already existing site on the forum ?

This is honestly something that can attract good attention but you need people in your team as well, it's a complicated process of setting up your own game.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Doell on June 20, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?
How is the profit multiplied in that game? and also how do we choose a number? Is it just 1 number with 35x profit or what?
a list of addresses
the winner depend on next block hash results
Are you serious about making a roulette game event at here with a list of addresses of everyone who participated in it, and the determination of the winner depends on next bitcoin hash block result? please specify it, in the last 2 digits hash or ? please give full details about your event OP.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: TimeTeller on June 20, 2022, 06:31:28 PM
You can find this setting in each and every site on the forum, they have roulette and they have every other thing that you might need but the game that you are implying might be different so you would have to explain yourself more and answer this question:

Why should the people come to you ?
Why should they play it seperate and not on am already existing site on the forum ?

This is honestly something that can attract good attention but you need people in your team as well, it's a complicated process of setting up your own game.

In my opinion, if the OP is thinking of launching a substandard roulette game, better not to launch it.
Because in every casino that we have right now, they usually have roulette in the list of their games.
So from my impression, he will just introduce a low-quality gaming site with bitcoin roulette.
I don't think people will patronize his site over the reputable and tried-and-tested casinos in the forum.
Don't add another poor quality gaming site that will screw up naive players.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: RILWAN on June 20, 2022, 06:34:49 PM
Bitcoin roulette is popular among forum users and several sites offer this service, what o find funny is how hard it is to trust your system, and not giving enough information makes the whole thing more complicated to understand. Let's hope you return to give more details and answer questions on this thread.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Slow death on June 20, 2022, 06:35:34 PM
well I don't particularly understand why someone would stop playing in a casino established years ago to play the same game in your scheme? As they already said in the casinos that accept bitcoin, there is this game you mentioned, so we are talking about bitcoin roulette, so I don't see the need to enter your scheme. I'm not questioning your honesty or not, I'm just saying that it's much better to continue playing roulette in established casinos.

In my opinion, if the OP is thinking of launching a substandard roulette game, better not to launch it.

that's what i thought too. OP is creating something meaningless


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: PX-Z on June 20, 2022, 10:44:06 PM
There's nothing wrong trying other ideas, but a roulete using bitcoin blockchain blocks is too long to wait especially now.
Although its good for transparency, but i dont think this way is good for roulete.
Other sites use this like lottery where the users sends bitcoin as bet and the last N digit of the txid wil be their bet and will be declared as a winner if it match the last N digit of the next block.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: hZti on June 20, 2022, 10:48:51 PM


the winner depend on next block hash results

I like this idea since there are many online casinos that are new or in general untrusted. If you make it dependent on the next block who wins you can be shure that there is not a rigged algorithm behind. Do you have data about a large amount of blocks to show if the numbers are really random and evenly distributed?
I think roulette is maybe the wrong name but you could pull it of as some kind of lottery that is drawn every day for example.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: famososMuertos on June 20, 2022, 10:53:13 PM
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I think that for any user and especially in this community it's not just about finding what to bet on, if not the how, where and how reliable it is... actually with so many good casinos to choose from and in the variety that exists with Roulette game, someone could only make an exception in what you propose for purposes of development or simply suggestions.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: nakamura12 on June 20, 2022, 10:58:25 PM
There are casinos that has roulette game that also accept Bitcoin when you play and also you can trust with your funds. If your roulette game result is using the next block hash then I think knowing the result will take some time if it is using the blockchain. As you have known, the estimated time that a block will be mined is 10 minutes but somr blocks are mined under 10 minutes and some are longer than 10 mins then my opinion about your game will be not good. Are you planning on creating a gambling site?.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: ImThour on June 20, 2022, 11:39:08 PM
There are already millions of websites with Roulette in it, you just need to accept Bitcoin or other crypto to just make it "Bitcoin roulette".
I don't see any advantage in just accepting Bitcoin over other cryptocurrencies. For example, Primedice or Stake accept more than Bitcoin and are doing far better in the gambling world.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Danydee on June 21, 2022, 12:47:26 AM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results

 What ?  ???




 I think maybe we should first see what OP is meaning with his message ,  very confuse.. even cannot distinguish if he's trolling !


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Wexnident on June 21, 2022, 01:35:47 AM
There should be casinos that have it right? Probably not based on the next block hash though. There are instances where the forum has hosted a few of those afaik but those were hosted by trusted members so people were willing to play it. Hardly doubt anyone who's unknown would have much traction with it imo.

I don't think casinos would implement it and even if they did, it's probably going to be a lottery type of thing? Since the results would take a few minutes to reach, unlike with normal roulettes where you just spin and spin away with no concern for duration/time.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Nrcewker on June 21, 2022, 02:02:22 AM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results

You want to host the Bitcoin roulette game?
I mean why to go with someone who is a newbie and doesn’t have any reputation.
There are already many sites present where we can find roulette game and that too those sites have great reputation .
I guess stake.com also has a roulette where we can play against the house not against other players.
Moreover I also remember that 4-5 years back Bitsler has also a roulette game where we can play PvP, don’t know if it’s still there.
So my point is OP, why should we play in your game and what’s the guarantee that the winnings will be paid to the winners?


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: dimonstration on June 21, 2022, 04:57:09 AM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results

This seems interesting and fun if you can manage to build it without letting the user create an account to register and just wallet address is enough to make a bet. I saw some of this before which user send the payment on the assigned address and a smart contract will pay the user automatically once his bet win.

Although I can't assure you that this kind of games will attract players since casino nowadays offered a live roulette which is the actual roulette games that we can see in the physical casino.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Reatim on June 21, 2022, 06:52:38 AM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results
Haven't you find any offers from the first thread you created as developer? that's why this is what you are offering now?

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Just go straight to what you really wanted here , actually all roulette that has bitoin bets ? then that is a Bitcoin Roulette lol.

I don't know if there will be interested but for now? I am out of this .


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Oshosondy on June 21, 2022, 06:55:29 AM
This seems interesting and fun if you can manage to build it without letting the user create an account to register and just wallet address is enough to make a bet. I saw some of this before which user send the payment on the assigned address and a smart contract will pay the user automatically once his bet win.

Although I can't assure you that this kind of games will attract players since casino nowadays offered a live roulette which is the actual roulette games that we can see in the physical casino.
Let me focus on reality about this, this is gambling, gambling site owners will always want to make more people to know and to register on their gambling site, if you are talking about decentralized gambling sites, it will only be more like decentralized exchanges that have low liquidity if compared to centralized exchanges, though I am not recommending centralized exchanges because it can be hacked and people are not in control of their coins, but just an example.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Shamm on June 21, 2022, 01:16:33 PM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results

You want to host the Bitcoin roulette game?
I mean why to go with someone who is a newbie and doesn’t have any reputation.
There are already many sites present where we can find roulette game and that too those sites have great reputation .
I guess stake.com also has a roulette where we can play against the house not against other players.
Moreover I also remember that 4-5 years back Bitsler has also a roulette game where we can play PvP, don’t know if it’s still there.
So my point is OP, why should we play in your game and what’s the guarantee that the winnings will be paid to the winners?

You are right that mate and I am pretty sure that no one or less will play on this site because this site is not known yet, and we all know that scams nowadays are very popular so we can not force those player that play in this sites I'm not telling that this site is scam but also the owner of this site is not reputable enough to be trusted. And the main thing this is that the assurance if the gambler will won is that 100% will the gambler get his/her winning money?


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: joeperry on June 21, 2022, 01:26:49 PM
You don't need to make things complicated though what we get what are you saying but here's the things there's already a roulette in most of the gambling site and those games are provably fair. The second things some users are not comfortable showing their addresses in the public and wanted to hide their addresses or transactions so it will not be really a good idea but if you are planning to open up a game like that, as long as it is fair, I will try it myself.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Plaguedeath on June 21, 2022, 02:04:18 PM
There are already many casinos who have roulette game and there's no reason why you need to set up your own roulette game, moreover your account doesn't have activity. Though you can use escrow, but I doubt many people will join.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: rhomelmabini on June 21, 2022, 02:47:14 PM
Unless it's unique, but I doubt this kind of thing was likely from bought script in the web and most of it are shady. I think we've seen enough of this Bitcoin roulette but if you don't offer any unique trait it may have to the table, then I would say it will just be a waste of time for every individuals here.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: FatFork on June 22, 2022, 01:47:08 PM
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the winner depend on next block hash results

Do you know what the term roulette means?

Roulette is a casino game named after the French word meaning little wheel...

It sounds like you're talking about a lottery or raffle, not a roulette.

Anyway, I am not sure what exactly you hope to accomplish with this topic. You haven't provided us with much information about your idea, so I doubt anyone will be interested in it. So please think about it for a moment, and try to come up with something that's more comprehensible and meaningful than your incoherent ramblings.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Shamm on June 22, 2022, 01:59:39 PM
Luck of information about this kind of project without formal introduction and don't have a formal announcement which is not good to deal with. Actually, for me, I don't trust this kind of Raffle or anything because I don't want to take a risk without assurance if I won I get my profit at the right time or don't have any problem with withdrawals. Maybe OP you need to put a little effort to catch the attention of some gamblers.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: dimonstration on June 22, 2022, 02:05:13 PM
This seems interesting and fun if you can manage to build it without letting the user create an account to register and just wallet address is enough to make a bet. I saw some of this before which user send the payment on the assigned address and a smart contract will pay the user automatically once his bet win.

Although I can't assure you that this kind of games will attract players since casino nowadays offered a live roulette which is the actual roulette games that we can see in the physical casino.
Let me focus on reality about this, this is gambling, gambling site owners will always want to make more people to know and to register on their gambling site, if you are talking about decentralized gambling sites, it will only be more like decentralized exchanges that have low liquidity if compared to centralized exchanges, though I am not recommending centralized exchanges because it can be hacked and people are not in control of their coins, but just an example.

Sadly, I agree. But few years ago, This kind of casino is what most players in cryptocurrency really like because of its simplicity and easy access with just sending funds to bet without doing deposit and withdraw. Right now centralized casino is dominates the market due to there promotions and vip perks which a decentralized casino(not the web3 casino) can’t do if they are still existing right now.

I just reminisce the good old dayswhen directbet.eu and satoshimine casino still exist and popular for having there no account feature to play there game.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: aioc on June 22, 2022, 02:11:33 PM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

similar to btc dice but little more complicated

a list of addresses

the winner depend on next block hash results
I don't want to discourage an idea that I have not seen all of its features so if you already have the concept and the script then go for it, it's something new to us, maybe many will become interested but if you explain more of its concept, is it something unique and have not been done before or an updated version of another concept, so go further and bring it on us.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: newnft on June 22, 2022, 02:17:22 PM
each address  means a number
so you just send btc to one of addresses and means the bet is placed

on each block our software will get all bettings .. and check last digits of the block hash  from there determinate winner



Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: panjul07 on June 22, 2022, 02:39:15 PM
each address  means a number
so you just send btc to one of addresses and means the bet is placed

on each block our software will get all bettings .. and check last digits of the block hash  from there determinate winner

You need to explain your offer with more details, not all members here understand what you are offering just by words.
I understand the basic idea but how your games works need to be explained step by step including how much is the odds, fee, etc.
However, I do not think it is an attractive game as people will prefer to play on real roulette game (provably fair or live game).



Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: coin-investor on June 22, 2022, 03:03:44 PM
each address  means a number
so you just send btc to one of addresses and means the bet is placed

on each block our software will get all bettings .. and check last digits of the block hash  from there determinate winner



Sounds interesting and gives roulette a new twist, and if you have the script and its in a testing stage you can create a video for it and then post it here a video or an image can explain what a thousand words can't, we really never know if it's going to be a hit or a bust unless we see the actual game, the community loves to see something new, and innovative concept, so go for it create it and show it to all of us.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Haunebu on June 22, 2022, 03:42:20 PM
I was initially confused about your idea, but that got cleared up after reading a couple of posts from above which could have been avoided if you simply came up with a more appropriate title for this particular thread op.

Coming to the game itself, I don't think you will find many participants who are willing to join just like some of the posters above primarily because it isn't worth it basically and it's not easy to trust newbies too.

If you are really serious about this, you need support from high-ranking members and you need to provide more reasons as to why gamblers should invest in this game.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: FatFork on June 22, 2022, 04:33:40 PM
each address  means a number
so you just send btc to one of addresses and means the bet is placed

on each block our software will get all bettings .. and check last digits of the block hash  from there determinate winner

So it's the form of on-chain lottery, right? You're basically putting the coins in and the blockchain chooses the winner, and so you get a completely random outcome for each round.
The idea isn't new, there have been similar attempts before. What makes you think yours will be more successful?


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on June 23, 2022, 04:12:54 AM
would anyone be interested in bitcoin roulette ?

Not really.

You don't need to make things complicated though what we get what are you saying but here's the things there's already a roulette in most of the gambling site and those games are provably fair. The second things some users are not comfortable showing their addresses in the public and wanted to hide their addresses or transactions so it will not be really a good idea but if you are planning to open up a game like that, as long as it is fair, I will try it myself.

I agree, after all, there is already the option to play roulette betting with bitcoin, and I don't see any additional advantages to the supposedly more sophisticated system proposed by the OP. Rather disadvantages.

The idea isn't new, there have been similar attempts before. What makes you think yours will be more successful?

Surely he has had the idea but does not know about the similar previous attempts you mention.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: South Park on June 23, 2022, 04:18:58 AM
well I don't particularly understand why someone would stop playing in a casino established years ago to play the same game in your scheme? As they already said in the casinos that accept bitcoin, there is this game you mentioned, so we are talking about bitcoin roulette, so I don't see the need to enter your scheme. I'm not questioning your honesty or not, I'm just saying that it's much better to continue playing roulette in established casinos.

In my opinion, if the OP is thinking of launching a substandard roulette game, better not to launch it.

that's what i thought too. OP is creating something meaningless

As a learning experience there is no better way to learn how to code something than to actually try to do it, since that is the best way to learn about how difficult it is to actually build what you want to code, and it also gives you insight about your own shortcomings as a programmer, however it is true that if the OP is planning to release a substandard service they may as well not do it, after all the competition we see among casinos is very high and a substandard game will never have any chance of competing against them.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: noorman0 on June 23, 2022, 04:45:02 AM
each address  means a number
so you just send btc to one of addresses and means the bet is placed

on each block our software will get all bettings .. and check last digits of the block hash  from there determinate winner

I caught your concept of roulette as a kind of free raffle on the collectibles board, correct? If so, you're just complicating the game yourself by separating the bet funds into addresses that represent numbers. Unless you explain why to use multiple addresses obviously it costs more tx fees.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: mak013 on June 23, 2022, 07:15:01 AM
I saw the same roulette in the bitgesell. They made it just to increase popularity of their product. I don`t need to spend money for the same game with BTC. There are lots of casinos with nice games without "send BTC to the address and it means that you bet at this number". It have no chances outside the casino.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: dothebeats on June 23, 2022, 07:16:09 AM
each address  means a number
so you just send btc to one of addresses and means the bet is placed

on each block our software will get all bettings .. and check last digits of the block hash  from there determinate winner

I caught your concept of roulette as a kind of free raffle on the collectibles board, correct? If so, you're just complicating the game yourself by separating the bet funds into addresses that represent numbers. Unless you explain why to use multiple addresses obviously it costs more tx fees.

Exactly. Bets can be placed in a single address, and the one who manages the said game can rely on the tx id or addresses on where the bets came from as a reference. No need to use lots of addresses in purpose of placing a bet. It will only eat you up in tx fees and what not, which may lead to a decline in the amount in the pot or even less revenue for the one who created the game. It's like adding lots of unnecessary layers to an already working (and somewhat perfect) game IMO.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: Desmong on June 23, 2022, 07:59:36 AM
Bitcoin roulette can be found in many of the casinos and I don't see anything special about it. You are asking if we are interested when their is a better ways to take that in to bet. Do you want to show us a third party site where we can play it? I am just very skeptical about what you are looking for or so you want us to play along with you and you will be the one to pay for the bet just like the way I have been seeing different offers from curious profit searching gamblers.


Title: Re: bitcoin roulete
Post by: danadc on June 24, 2022, 03:45:25 AM
It is difficult to achieve OP, I think there are many people who would not risk playing or doing something with real money, I think I could do what they suggest previously, you can look for someone to trust him if he makes a deposit Trust with one of the forum's confibal users, this will give you more seriousness, PRque that wants to achieve is good but lends itself to think badly, and since everything is always taken care that they can be deceived, scammed, because it is something understandable.