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Title: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Yawa2020 on June 27, 2022, 03:14:10 PM
For quite some times now, I have been seeing posts most especially on Telegram bounty groups about how to get rid of Negative trust in this forum. I don't know if there's a thread about this before thou I'm yet to see any. The reason for this thread is to acquaint users with how to get rid of Negative trust as no one is able to provide useful hints on any of these groups (Telegram groups) where such questions are been table. Is it that there's no way to get rid of it or I'm just yet to come across such threads?


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Charles-Tim on June 27, 2022, 03:20:54 PM
Only the person that gives you negative trust can remove it.

You do not have a negative trust, so why do you want to get rid of negative trust? You want to get rid of what you do not have. Or you meant, how to avoid it?

There are some negative trust that you can not get rid of, example are obvious scam projects or if you scam someone on this forum, or an obvious scam attempt.

To avoid negative trust, do not do anything that can make any of the DT member to give you negative trust, avoid using alts to join the same campaign as it is included in the rules of campaigns, avoid anything related to scam attempt and be a trustworthy member on this forum.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Upgrade00 on June 27, 2022, 03:23:16 PM
Trust is not moderated by the forum; It is a community run system, through trusts lists and feedback.

Only those who place a certain trust on a profile, can remove it. So, you will have to contact the user which gave it, to remove it.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Yawa2020 on June 27, 2022, 03:37:32 PM
Only the person that gives you negative trust can remove it.

You do not have a negative trust, so why do you want to get rid of negative trust? You want to get rid of what you do not have. Or you meant, how to avoid it?

There are some negative trust that you can not get rid of, example are obvious scam projects or if you scam someone on this forum, or an obvious scam attempt.

To avoid negative trust, do not do anything that can make any of the DT member to give you negative trust, avoid using alts to join the same campaign as it is included in the rules of campaigns, avoid anything related to scam attempt and be a trustworthy member on this forum.
Yeah! I don't have any but I choose that subject heading in order to align with the content. Thanks for enlightenment.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: mk4 on June 27, 2022, 03:45:49 PM
You can't remove it yourself, and rightfully so. Imagine if person A scammed person B hence person B placed a negative trust on person A, and then person A could just remove the negative trust himself. It's obviously flawed. Hence why in reality only the victim can remove the negative trust.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: BitMaxz on June 27, 2022, 03:51:57 PM
What actually your purpose in creating this topic? Like others said only users who left negative trust can remove it and it won't ever remove if you scam unless you solve the case but the chances are lower(Depending on DTs decision).
And honestly, you can search on this forum who experienced the same thing you can find most of the answers from old threads.

Anyway, Adding this below I think this thread will help you learn more about how that trust system works you can read this

- LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0)

To avoid a negative trust/red tag read this

- [NEWBIE] What To Do To Avoid Red-Trust. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380403.0)


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 27, 2022, 03:53:10 PM
Only the person that gives you negative trust can remove it.
OP, Charles-Tim speaks the truth.  That's why those telegram people aren't able to write anything useful about negative trust removal--the way the trust system has been structured on bitcointalk for as long as I can remember is that moderators and/or Theymos don't get involved with any trust left between two members, period.  So either you work it out with the member who left you the neg or it stands as it is. 

You do not have a negative trust, so why do you want to get rid of negative trust? You want to get rid of what you do not have. Or you meant, how to avoid it?
I get the impression OP wants to have a discussion about it, maybe to clarify what's being written on telegram or other sites.  And if any of those people were actually members here for any length of time, they ought to know that it's not a complicated situation.  A frustrating one, maybe, but very uncomplicated.  The person who left you the feedback is the only one who can remove it.

Maybe that'll change, but somehow I doubt it.  It's been that way for years and it doesn't seem as though Theymos intends on changing things.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Coyster on June 27, 2022, 03:55:33 PM
I'm sure quite a lot of users in your TG bounty groups have a couple of negative feedbacks themselves for either cheating one campaign with multiple accounts, or participating and advertising scam bounties, thus the discussion on how to remove it is prevalent in such groups. Tbh, your question is irrelevant, what i consider most relevant is why a user will be on such bounty TG groups, despite the fact that bounties are a shit show in recent years, you should really reconsider your participation in such groups and in bounties in general.

Aren't you interested in Bitcoin knowledge? Mind you that if you are, you can enjoy yourself on the forum discussing about Bitcoin and other interesting whatnots with people that have unimaginable knowledge about Bitcoin, now imagine what that will do to your own knowledge?

But you miss out, just cause you wanna keep posting bounty reports after reports :(!


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on June 27, 2022, 07:55:22 PM
Maybe just make sure you don't do things in the forum that may lead to your profile getting red trusted by DT members in the first place. That way, you won't have to worry about how to get rid of red trust.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: OgNasty on June 27, 2022, 08:54:48 PM
Maybe just make sure you don't do things in the forum that may lead to your profile getting red trusted by DT members in the first place. That way, you won't have to worry about how to get rid of red trust.

It's not always so simple.  There are plenty of bad actors in DT and many of the DT members don't even interact with members of this forum outside of spamming on their threads for signature earnings so it's really about who agrees with whatever nonsense they are spouting here.  As someone who has been left negative trust by DT members attempting extortion or just bad actors acting out of jealousy with ridiculous claims, I can tell you that DT still has a long way to go before it's back to being respectable.  Right now, some of the most included members of DT are repeated liars and trust network manipulators who have chased much of the talent from these forums as a result of their quest for power.  It's gotten a little better recently with the departure of trolls like Lauda, Vod, TMAN, Last of the V8s, and a few others (owlcatz hopefully being next), but they still need to be cleansed from the DT network.  However, their supporters in the DT network are hell bent on keeping these trolls there as they put a lot of work into supporting their trolling to punish those that they have petty disagreements with via manipulation of the network.  It is nice to see things moving in the right direction though.  Most of the heavy lifting seems to have carried itself out.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: KingsDen on June 27, 2022, 09:00:44 PM
Only the person that gives you negative trust can remove it.
OP, Charles-Tim speaks the truth.  That's why those telegram people aren't able to write anything useful about negative trust removal--the way the trust system has been structured on bitcointalk for as long as I can remember is that moderators and/or Theymos don't get involved with any trust left between two members, period.  So either you work it out with the member who left you the neg or it stands as it is. 
I have never belonged to any of those telegram groups since I joined this forum, but I have a strong conviction that they are mainly scam oriented. Most posts about merit sells and account sells that I encountered here all emanated from these telegram groups. Op mentioned that they always say how to remove negative tag but no tangible means was ever mentioned. It could therefore be a means to scam those who have tags by making them believe it can be removed by paying some amount of money.

And one funny thing is that even if someone is scammed, the victim will not have the guts to bring the matter to the forum and it becomes a case of "let the dead Bury the dead."


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 27, 2022, 09:08:11 PM
For quite some times now, I have been seeing posts most especially on Telegram bounty groups about how to get rid of Negative trust in this forum. I don't know if there's a thread about this before thou I'm yet to see any. The reason for this thread is to acquaint users with how to get rid of Negative trust as no one is able to provide useful hints on any of these groups (Telegram groups) where such questions are been table. Is it that there's no way to get rid of it or I'm just yet to come across such threads?
On your own, it is absolutely impossible to get rid of Negative trust, only the person or those that gave you a Negative trust are the ones that are able to remove it if for some reason, they have a different opinion or decide to change their mind on how they trust you.
The forums trust system is managed by the community, permit me to use the word "Decentralized" to further explain this, the forum trust system is completely decentralized, this means that Not you or the admins of this forum can utter or change a trust another user leaves on your account, be it a Negative trust or Positive or even Neutral trust, only the person that gave the trust has access to change it.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: yahoo62278 on June 27, 2022, 09:50:42 PM
i heard that bribing LoyceV and The Pharmacist can help get neg trust removed. Maybe send them a message asking lmao. In all seriousness, you have been answered by many, only the person who gave the tag can remove it.

Honestly I wish we had a panel to appeal a tag to, like the supreme court, but we don't. You can always appeal to other DT and plead your case. Its possible they ~the person who tagged you and get them removed from DT but don't hold your breath.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on June 27, 2022, 09:53:46 PM
Maybe that'll change, but somehow I doubt it.  It's been that way for years and it doesn't seem as though Theymos intends on changing things.
I think that has to change to show how progressive this forum is. Retaining a rule made a decade or so ago while it's obvious that current circumstances may have arm twisted such a rule is analogous to retaining a pathway in the rural areas used by passersby even when vehicular movements have become noticeable. The point I'm labouring to make here is that there should be a realignment to suit present reality on ground. Supposed the situation that led to the red tag has changed or resolved but the person who left it has exited the forum. What then happens? It brings up the issue Bestchange had while starting out its campaign here and the tag TMAN left on the user which I think has been resolved. Yet, TMAN hasn't been online for over two years now and Bestchange still bears that tag till date. In a situation like that, I think there should be something theymos, the admin or the forum should be able to do inorder to overwrite the red tag. The forum should adjust for better on that. After all, they say change is the only constant thing in life.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Igebotz on June 27, 2022, 09:53:49 PM
You do not have a negative trust, so why do you want to get rid of negative trust? You want to get rid of what you do not have. Or you meant, how to avoid it?
I get the impression OP wants to have a discussion about it, maybe to clarify what's being written on telegram or other sites.  And if any of those people were actually members here for any length of time, they ought to know that it's not a complicated situation.  A frustrating one, maybe, but very uncomplicated.  The person who left you the feedback is the only one who can remove it.
Why am I the only one reading another meaning into the OP? I believe the OP is a victim, but he's trying to play smart because he knew he wouldn't get a good response if he posted from his original account, and if not, I don't see why OP would bother looking for something he's not a victim of. I could be wrong, but these are just my instincts.
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Maybe that'll change, but somehow I doubt it.  It's been that way for years and it doesn't seem as though Theymos intends on changing things.
theymos prefer that everything be decentralized. I doubt he would as well. Although some users are victims of DT abuse from old members who are no longer on the forum, there is no hope for it to go away, which is another disadvantage of decentralization. Everything that has an advantage also has a disadvantage.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: nakamura12 on June 28, 2022, 01:06:51 AM
Actually, someone did also ask this question on "How to get rid of negative trust?". There is only one way on how to remove a negative trust on your account which is to ask the forum user who gave you the negative trust on your account. If you think that a certain forum user give you negative trust even though you are sure that you didn't deserve it then asking that forum user to remove the negative trust and explain why it should be removed. If the negative trust or red trust you see on your account is because you violated a forum rules which the punishment is giving your a account a negative feedback or you are a scammer. If you have more than 1 negative trust e.g, you have a total of 4 negative trust from 4 forum user then only those 4 user can remove the 4 negative trust they sent to your account.

I have checked your profile and you don't have negative trust so you don't have to worry about negative trust unless you have other account that has negative trust or someone you know that has negative trust on their account.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 28, 2022, 06:27:47 AM
OP, this question has been discussed thousands of times on the forum. Why don't you use the search? Why does a newcomer, who, according to him, has no other alternative accounts, care about the issues of the ban and negative trust?

I'm sorry, but with every question you ask, you give yourself away. Finally, you will undoubtedly make a mistake and be banned or given a red trust.

Start reading the forum instead of worrying about your life on the forum. Your message history shows that something is familiar to you or someone scared you a lot.

Develop the right information, and you will be completely safe.

Once again, I advise you to familiarize yourself with this topic.

[Guide] Searching effectively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Apocollapse on June 28, 2022, 08:33:21 AM
This user have been create a thread about negative trust and ban before The fear of Negative trust and Ban  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404102.msg60445606#msg60445606), now he created another thread about similar discussion. I believe there's a suspicion why he need to create this thread and I'm correct, he's a bounty cheater and his alts got painted, so he want to get rid of it.

Bounty cheater is worthy to get red tag!

● Medium Report ●
- Day: 6
- Medium Profile: https://medium.com/@bellobangbami

● Medium Report ●
- Medium Profile: https://medium.com/@bellobangbami

You're cheating in the same campaign 🟥[BOUNTY]🟥 CWD Global - CROWDWIZ. WORLD. DECENTRALIZATION| 1M CWD Pool|ESCROW (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401670.0)

●  Multiple accounts registrations are not allowed, all related accounts will be checked and deleted

It's funny your alt account PK11 have been tagged due to cheat the bounties by making a new report from the old report (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383361.msg60346036#msg60346036), this mean how you're want to get money with your dirty technique and doesn't care with the forum!


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Yawa2020 on June 28, 2022, 09:00:16 AM
OP, this question has been discussed thousands of times on the forum. Why don't you use the search? Why does a newcomer, who, according to him, has no other alternative accounts, care about the issues of the ban and negative trust?

I'm sorry, but with every question you ask, you give yourself away. Finally, you will undoubtedly make a mistake and be banned or given a red trust.

Start reading the forum instead of worrying about your life on the forum. Your message history shows that something is familiar to you or someone scared you a lot.

Develop the right information, and you will be completely safe.

Once again, I advise you to familiarize yourself with this topic.

[Guide] Searching effectively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)
You're actually not too far from truth. At times, I'm even scared of posting due to fear instilled in me by a member that if I post, I will be ban or get red tag easily. I'm pretty sure that is the reason I concentrated much on bounty until recently I started participating in forum discussions. I realized that it's very necessary to have a good mentor at first.

It's funny your alt account PK11 have been tagged due to cheat the bounties by making a new report from the old report (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383361.msg60346036#msg60346036), this mean how you're want to get money with your dirty technique and doesn't care with the forum!
I'm not surprised at all cus this is not the first time I'm been accused of using multiple accounts. The first time, a user message me on Telegram accusing me of using multiple accounts threatening that he will do this and that but I defended myself cus I know nothing about such allegation. And you're the next now. Why was he giving a negative trust? Simply he's a cheater. I guess he copy my report without editing properly. You should have spent some time to check his previous reports too. He has series of accounts especially on Telegram. The reason why I publish all these posts is the reason I gave in the first quote (due to the fear instill in me from the initial) which I'm now trying to overcome. So I need more clarification on how those stuffs work hence, I publish such posts.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Cashi on June 28, 2022, 10:17:51 AM
For quite some times now, I have been seeing posts most especially on Telegram bounty groups about how to get rid of Negative trust in this forum.
Most likely it is a scam. Because only the account on DT can remove your negative trust.
Nobody on Telegram can remove your negative trust from your Bitcointalk account.
DT also can remove the account that gave you a red trust from DT entirely but DT is grown very big recently, where some abusers made their way into it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404167.0

Best way for everyone: don't get tagged.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: avp2306 on June 28, 2022, 10:45:50 AM
For quite some times now, I have been seeing posts most especially on Telegram bounty groups about how to get rid of Negative trust in this forum. I don't know if there's a thread about this before thou I'm yet to see any. The reason for this thread is to acquaint users with how to get rid of Negative trust as no one is able to provide useful hints on any of these groups (Telegram groups) where such questions are been table. Is it that there's no way to get rid of it or I'm just yet to come across such threads?

If you get neg trust from bounty abuse,scamming and plagiarism then you don't have any chance to get rid the neg trust you earned even if you beg to the DT member who put that into your account.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: aysg76 on June 28, 2022, 11:35:33 AM
OP, Charles-Tim speaks the truth.  That's why those telegram people aren't able to write anything useful about negative trust removal--the way the trust system has been structured on bitcointalk for as long as I can remember is that moderators and/or Theymos don't get involved with any trust left between two members, period.  So either you work it out with the member who left you the neg or it stands as it is. 
Telegram groups of these types are usually meant for scamming members and spreading misinformation to them like you would see merit and account selling talks there but in reality they just want to earn few dollars by making people fool.The negative trust cannot be removed except from the person who has given it but although you can make a request to the user by correcting your mistakes and if he feel so.But believing in these telegram talks is waste of time only.

I get the impression OP wants to have a discussion about it, maybe to clarify what's being written on telegram or other sites.  And if any of those people were actually members here for any length of time, they ought to know that it's not a complicated situation.  A frustrating one, maybe, but very uncomplicated.  The person who left you the feedback is the only one who can remove it.
But i doubt a member who didn't have any issues with the negative trust is asking for the same so little bit confused about him.You work according to the rules of forum and you don't need to worry about the negative tags at all as you won't get them.But if you have one then only the sender have the authority to clear it.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 28, 2022, 02:31:17 PM
https://i.ibb.co/4PNjgSR/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/TmhHq0M)

As they say, we didn't have to wait long. The OP got one negative review today. Although I somewhat disagree with his tag, this should already be the next topic for the OP, in which he will be able to convince the one who marked his trust with his own experience of his innocence.

As often happens, such questions only cause users to once again check the post history of the interested person. And everything repeats. Usually it ends with even more negative reviews.

OP, I'm sorry, but you can fight.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Apocollapse on June 29, 2022, 08:32:49 AM
I'm not surprised at all cus this is not the first time I'm been accused of using multiple accounts. The first time, a user message me on Telegram accusing me of using multiple accounts threatening that he will do this and that but I defended myself cus I know nothing about such allegation.
Prove it and make sure you screenshot with the month, day, year to see when the discussion was begin.

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You should have spent some time to check his previous reports too. He has series of accounts especially on Telegram.
Prove if PK11 was copying many users social medias and want to ruin other users account, I don't see he's blatantly copy pasting other users social medias.
More importantly, the bounty ask you to leave a comment and guess what, your account didn't even made anything lol

https://medium.com/@bellobangbami


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Yawa2020 on June 29, 2022, 09:33:10 AM
Prove it and make sure you screenshot with the month, day, year to see when the discussion was begin.
Lol! It been quite a long now but glad I traced the chat and it seems that account is not longer existed. I don't know how to attach pictures here but here is the link to Screenshots of my chat with him. 1. https://i.imgur.com/tZUU4eg.jpg 2. https://i.imgur.com/FeSMctV.jpg 3. https://i.imgur.com/jIYFfla.jpg I was just a month old then in the forum and I was totally ignorant of what he was saying until recently. After his threat, he failed to prove himself of his claim.
Prove if PK11 was copying many users social medias and want to ruin other users account, I don't see he's blatantly copy pasting other users social medias.
More importantly, the bounty ask you to leave a comment and guess what, your account didn't even made anything lol
https://medium.com/@bellobangbami

Point of correction... I didn't say PK11 is copying many users social media. What I said is that he copied mine and he uses different Telegram accounts. Who does that? He's the cheater and not me.

● Write one comment every day about the project on other famous pages (2 per day at most) (DO NOT SPAM ON OFFICIAL PROJECT PAGES)

You should try as well to read full rules of the bounty. The bounty also stated  that you should make comments in other famous pages and not on your own page. Try as much as possible to make your allegation more convincing next time. I might not be perfect in my doings but using multiple accounts is not part of it. You should please remove the negative tag you place on me.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: acroman08 on June 29, 2022, 11:22:27 AM
I don't know how to attach pictures here but here is the link to Screenshots of my chat with him.
the letter in the images is flattened and can be read(at least for me). since you are a jr member you can post images. after uploading the image on imgur click the three dots that will appear at the upper right side of the image and then click "share links" then copy the "BBCosde(forums)" and then put it on your post. if you want to adjust the size of the image, follow the code below.

Code:
[img width=500][/img]
you can adjust the size by changing the number


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: death_wish on June 29, 2022, 12:39:04 PM
Out, damned spot!

https://i.imgur.com/mWH5nXb.jpg
“Lady Macbeth”, Gabriel von Max (1885)
Hermitage Museum, Saint Petersburg


For quite some times now, I have been seeing posts most especially on Telegram bounty groups about how to get rid of Negative trust in this forum.

You are a bad person, and you should feel bad about yourself.

The reason for this thread is to acquaint users with how to get rid of Negative trust as no one is able to provide useful hints on any of these groups (Telegram groups) where such questions are been table.

Hahahahahahaha.

I was having a tough day, and you made me laugh.  I will thank you by laughing at you again:  Hahahahahahaha.

This forum is a degenerate trash-heap, and a significant proportion of DT deserves red-tags themselves; but at least, some scum don’t profit.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Findingnemo on June 29, 2022, 03:32:21 PM
Bounty telegram groups allows such kind of discussion? Pretty weird though because it is actually for the project related not to discuss about the negative trust. Anyway as already mentioned a lot of times in this thread you can't remove the trust or any other apart from the person who gave it to you.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Apocollapse on June 30, 2022, 02:32:01 PM
Point of correction... I didn't say PK11 is copying many users social media. What I said is that he copied mine and he uses different Telegram accounts. Who does that? He's the cheater and not me.
When many users copying many users social medias, then it's easy to say the account is only use to ruin other accounts reputation. While in your case, PK11 didn't do any suspicious thing since he's using his twitter, facebook etc for long time and didn't change other account.

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You should try as well to read full rules of the bounty. The bounty also stated  that you should make comments in other famous pages and not on your own page.
Not sure what you're talking about, all bounty hunters report the medium bounty with their own account URL, while you're the only one who report with the project URL.

Since the chat is before this month, so it's true a random user threat you about negative tag and I think it can be considered as valid proof, so I've removed my tag.


Title: Re: How do I get rid of Negative trust?
Post by: Benkbeny on July 12, 2022, 11:36:25 AM
For quite some times now, I have been seeing posts most especially on Telegram bounty groups about how to get rid of Negative trust in this forum. I don't know if there's a thread about this before thou I'm yet to see any. The reason for this thread is to acquaint users with how to get rid of Negative trust as no one is able to provide useful hints on any of these groups (Telegram groups) where such questions are been table. Is it that there's no way to get rid of it or I'm just yet to come across such threads?
Well the Answer to your Question has be provided.
But note that red trust hardly be removed if your reason for the removal is not satisfying.
It's advisable not get red trust than having one because this is usually giving as a result of suspicious and malicious act by users account.
When you have Red trust follow the step below to rid of it.
1. Login your account
2. Click on your profile
3. Click on the Trust
4. You will see the person that gives you the red trust, Click to open the users profile
5. Send a concrete reason as message to the person on why you want him/her to lift the red trust.

If your reason is satisfiable to him/her the red trust will be remove.