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Yesterday I spoke with my coworkers brother over speaker phone who works for a crypto marketing company. He was convinced that Craig Wright is the actual satoshi and that Bitcoin Satoshi's vision was completely undervalued and that eventually it is going to be the number 1 coin. I just couldn't help but laugh inside my head, but then proceeded to tell him "ya never now maybe you could be right" just for the sake of being polite and not starting an argument lol. I didn't want to be rude, but I do think that this guy was a little crazy. Do people actually think that BSV has potential in the future? I thought we were past that whole fail of a forked BTC coin BSV and also Craig Wright being Satoshi..... LOL asking for a friend...

BSV is a massive, failed shitcoin with no future. Monero is a great concept but it can’t take off because big exchanges aren’t allowed to list it due to pressure from governments. It can’t grow because it won’t be allowed to.
Craig Wright is a compulsive liar, he’ll probably end up broke & kill himself.

I'm not sure I even believe this story.  There is so much evidence against Craig at this point, it's beyond clear that he is not satoshi.  In my opinion, there are only 3 reasons why someone would even make that claim.  1)  They are a troll.  2)  They purchased BSV before realizing it was a scam and would rather deny the truth than admit they were scammed.  3)  They think BSV could be manipulated upwards and they could make money from the lie.

The only thing you need to explain to people who think Craig is satoshi is this...  satoshi has a lot of coins.  People thought they could access those coins if they could convince others that Craig was satoshi and then get them to go along with a fork to unlock satoshi's coins and give them to Craig.  It is a grift as clear as day.

I kid you not, this guy was delusional. He even made this statement "Even if Craig lied in his court documents that doesn't mean he isn't Satoshi, you know?" hahahhahahhaha I can't make this stuff up man. Honestly I want to say the youtube account he works for i'll give you a hint it starts with Crypto. That should narrow it down  ;) haha.

I am with you its obviously a scam and the fork was so long ago and Craig Wright is most definitely NOT Satoshi, I can't believe that this guy was so certain on BSV and this false theory. BTC and ETH all the way for me, the only 2 I am really into. I do like me some NFTs but I got lucky and found really good projects that give value. So far the only value Craig Wright has given to crypto is for others to buy in on a really great dip a bear market or so ago, lol.

I do not pay much attention to Satoshi identity debates again because I am so much convinced that if Satoshi should reappear, it will take him less than 7days to prove to the world that he is Satoshi.
Again, I am so much convinced that Satoshi is not reappearing till eternity.
Then, I am confident that Satoshi has never left us, he is still into crypto and bitcoin and probably in this group but with a different alias and identity

Op, you didn't say about Monero. But I so much believe the potential of Monero. Though it may not make any head way now, but if bitcoin finishes all the battle, the world may see the need for total privacy and embrace Monero.

It is what as you have describe, your friend is working on a crypto marketing company.

And all they do is hype thing, and everyone knows here that Craig Wright is not Satoshi, and maybe your friend didn't know the whole back story.

BSV is dead already and there's no way that it can be revived.

For us people who do know on what the reality is or the real thing then we would really be laughing deep inside yet we do have already the experience and been aware into those events on how shitty BSV
is and other forked BTC in the market that we do have today. If that someone do knows and make out some research in depth about CSW then for sure he would be definitely be laughing and telling to
himself that he was a fool on believing on something bullshit.For sure this guy had been blinded up with some BSV supporter out there or had been completely brainwashed by any
CSW video out there and been convinced. hehehe

1. Tell him that the BSV shitcoin he has so much hope in is currently ranked number 49 in market capitalization according to coingecko... all the way from the top 20 after the fork.
Even a joke coin like Shiba Inu is currently number 13, how is the BSV shitcoin supposed to overtake Bitcoin?

2. Ask him why his "Lord" Craig Wright can't sign any Satoshi era addresses to prove that he's Satoshi. I don't think the signing process would even take more than 5 minutes.

In working with a crypto marketing company then its normal that you would really be giving out positive sentiments on whatever your job would really able to say or do so which even if you do know that Satoshi

isnt known but if you are working and did have that vision that Craig was satoshi then you wont really be having any choice but to accept and would agree into it even if its against your liking

but since you are earning money from that job and you do really badly need it then you wont really be having no choice even if you do make yourself laughable on others eyes.
Am i right?  :)

You did the right thing OP, even if you debate with him no one will win because he already believes in someone else, for him he is right.  There is no good destination for that, especially if his belief is poisoned by lies.  He was willing to go blind and follow orders for the sake of work and money even though he knew he looked ridiculous for defending a fake.

It's been a long time, many others have self-proclaimed that they are the real Satoshi Nakamoto who invented Bitcoin but they can't prove it.  Just pure fraud and skepticism.

Craig Wright is not Satoshi. He is Faketoshi!

BSV is no way better than Bitcoin. It is only one of many Bitcoin forks and all of them are failed products.
How many Bitcoin forks are there? You will be surprised (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221882.msg53737261#msg53737261)

Monero is not better than Bitcoin. You can not compare Bitcoin to Monero in trading volume, marketcap and use cases. Bitcoin is accepted everywhere, is used everywhere. Bitcoin has less local restrictions by AML while Monero are facing with more restrictions and in future governments will enforce more restrictions on Monero.

My god, I can't stop laughing especially the part of kill himself since you are the Death Angel  :D :D. but you have said is true about monero back a couple of years ago monero is the best privacy coin I mean it still best to date until crypto gets regulated KYC/AML becomes necessary to some exchanges and major exchanges keep delisting it  :'( :'(

and about craig wright I think is another person who wants to be famous if he real satoshi I don't know how many government agents will showed to him.

last BSV nahhh I don't know what really purpose of this coin  :-\ with DeFi and seamless chain available all over the place

I love your answer though, it's a complete troll, LOL. But you should debate your friend though, I mean where did he get that idea? Is he part of that 1%, that believes Craig is the real Satoshi?  ;D

BSV doesn't have a future, we've seen it already in the last couple of years. All of them who fork or claims to be the real Bitcoin is now dead.

Well, we are all living - am assuming this is true mostly - in a democratic world so ideas and opinions can be freely be shared without being afraid of any repercussions. Just give your friend that freedom to believe in a lie because anyway if he is investing with BSV then it is his money to lose and not yours. Personally, I don't believe in BSV and majority of people who are strongly supporting Bitcoin can not imagine that Craig Wright is the Satoshi guy...because he is all Wrong!

If you ever talk to your friend again, ask what crypto marketing company he is working for. Knowing that could explain why he thinks that way. It's safe to say that the people behind the bitcoin fork are aggressively marketing their coin. It's not surprising if they are already in collaboration with some agencies so it's natural that their employees are influenced by that.

It's really warning! How on earth a person working in a crypto related company even believes that Craig is Satoshi and BSV is not a shitcoin. I believe many other people believes the same. That's really concerning because that is probably the biggest lie in the crypto market.

We can laugh away now but this trend shouldn't continue. BSV is a failed attempt to take over the reputation of bitcoin. It must be protected!

Not just BSV but there are a lot of newbies out there that think random shitcoins with nothing to offer are "better than bitcoin" and are going to some day become "number 1 coin" in the market. Funny thing is that they keep losing money bag holding these shitcoins and still think the same way until they lose a significant amount and finally give up.
The biggest example of such shitcoins that got biggest pumps is ETH.

It would be upon these BSV's investors why they would believe Craig Wright is satoshi. They could be following him for a number of reason. One of which is maybe he tends to give them hope into making it big in crypto.

Imagine if Craig Wright will be the owner of the "satoshi coins". That would be a lot of coins for him and his followers. I personally do not believe him one bit.

This is why we see lot of deviations in top -10 on CMC but bitcoin always remain on the top but they will completely ignore these facts and are living in fantasy world where these shitcoins are providing them some utility but in reality the whales are taking their advantage for personal benefits and they all are filling their bags of shitcoins which will be lying dead in their wallet after some time.

The BTC is best choice and their are fundamental as well technical proof like how it's decentralised with network security and not so much high fees in the time of congestion also whereas ETH gas is like you have to send more as fees for the amount you are sending so what's the fun here? But explaining them is waste as those who don't understand it or want to they will be conceived with some influencer telling them this shitcoin is next 100x so be fast and they will pour their money into it but not bitcoin.So they loose at the end for their mistakes.

For some people, it's enough that the coin has Bitcoin in its name and they won't understand the difference, but will rather insist that they bought Bitcoin at an extremely favorable price - how many times have I read how confused beginners run into problems after a while when they realize that their BTC is not what they thought it really was.

When someone asks why projects like this have not completely failed, one only needs to look at how many naive people still believe that they have real coins in their wallets.

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Lol, I don't need to read further. The ridiculous title and this introduction have already lost me.

You did it fine. There's no point on having non-constructive discussions, generally, not just for bitcoin. I've stopped talking with idiots and it's probably one of my best decisions so far.

We aren't even past considering bitcoin a ponzi. And I don't think we'll ever do. There will always be idiots.

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Let's not forget BSV has been successfully attacked, having transactions reversed, and still, it operates like nothing happened. This describes well how shitty it is.

Yeah it’s sad about XMR, I had high hopes for it. I’m actually still holding a bag, I don’t think it’ll ever see another ath. It’s been killed by first world governments pressure on exchanges for kyc etc which totally destroys the whole point of it.

Screw first world govs & of course screw BSV.

He works for a crypto marketing company and he thinks Craig Wright is the actual satoshi! I don't think there is anything anyone can do for him of after such exposure he still can see beyond his nose thats too bad. He is entitled to his opinion which are unfortunately wrong and judging your post he seem like someone who would be hard to convince.
Although am yet to understand his response for this opinion of CW being satoshi. What has he done in his eyes to qualify him for such a huge position  ???

Your co-worker's brother works for a crypto marketing company, so that tells me he would promote any shitcoin as long as the price is right.  Monero is the ultimate privacy coin and will always have its niche so I can get with that but he ultimately hurts his credibility by thinking cw is Satoshi.

This shows that there are really crypto users who are thinking that CW is real satoshi.
For most of us, it is laughable as CW already lost his credibility long time ago.
Anyway, the OP was just being polite, and that's true, we don't know the truth yet.
But I can agree that the future of BSV is also questionable for me. I have the feeling that it will die down without warning.

There are literary a number of exchanges (https://kycnot.me) which you can use to swap Monero for BTC and vice versa without having to worry about KYC, but I guess the exchanges are not so much exposed and most people don't know about them.

The likes of
1. coinswap.click
2. Kilos swap (only available on tor)
3. Infinity Exchanger (only available on tor)
4. majesticbank.su