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So I decided to have a bit of fun on stake casino. From a little fun turned into a huge addiction. Like every other site I decided to permanently exclude myself from stake. Only issue is that I was literally able to make another account on stake within 10minutes. All it takes is a new fake email and fake name and I'm back to gambling.  I've lost count to how many accounts I've made because I always wanted to end the madness. I would actually tell them hey I'm using a VPN, hey I'm 16 and playing here for them to ban me from they're sites but I just kept making new accounts and kept playing. 
How are they allowed to do this? Why am I able to make as many accounts as I want to continue gambling. I've self excluded again but I guarantee that in 2weeks time I'll.be back making a new account gambling. No other site allows you to do this. How will stake address this issue of players who permanently self exclude themselves but continue to make new accounts. I've actually got it down that I'm able to make a new account and play within 10minutes. It's a joke. I'm scared of what will happen.....

Your problem is not Stake. You have a problem that you have to try to solve from within yourself. Even if you managed to exclude yourself permanently from stake and they won't let you create any more accounts, there are plenty of kyc-free crypto casinos where you could still gamble.

If you find that you can't quit on your own, get help.

This is the best and final solution to your addiction problem, get help since you can't handle it on your own, breaking addiction is not that easy and it requires a strong determination of self-discipline because as long as you keep going for no KYC casino you will have access to gamble. In this situation, the stake is not at fault since they already operated as a no KYC casino so the sole responsibility is placed on players to try to protect themselves from addiction.

No casino will be able to block your registration if you are using VPN to create new accounts after doing self exclusion from other accounts. You wouldn't be able to do that if full KYC verification was required during the registration process. But none of the crypto casino does it. You should tell about your situation to your parents. Otherwise tell about it to your close people who can help you to get out from this gambling addiction. You should block the URL of gambling sites from your browser. Although you will have the option to unblock it, but you will get some extra time to think before repeating your mistake.

I really find your concern a bit odd! :D

Yeah sure, you can create as much account as you like, but I think, it is absurd to accuse Stake of lacking an effective self-exclusion program. They operate a casino and having someone to possibly lose their hard-earned money, is in its entirety, their business model. Plus, there is a delay before they can detect accounts with malicious intents.

Not being hard on you but, I hope you find a solution you are comfortable with for your gambling issues.

As said, it is not the problem with Stake, because Stake gives access to create your own account with a verified email address. Further depending on the users requirement there are levels of KYC verification. Here the problem is with OP. When you find yourself addicted and go for self exclusion, further what's the need of creating new account. You can request support team to remove from self exclusion.

If I'm not wrong someone could've said when playing with a new account it is possible to have higher chance of winning. And this is why OP is continuing to create new accounts.

I can make 50 accounts with 50 fake emails. It's too easy.
It's mind boggling that I'm able to deposit 100k worth of crypto using nothing but a fake name and fake email. Lose it. Close account self exclude
Then repeat the process a week after with a new account.
  System identification is non existent

When you go to withdraw is when they may hit you with KYC. Using a VPN isn't a good idea. It gets your money in but not out.

you can do it over an over but its not stake's fault. you know yourself that its you who made the accounts just as you said it. if you want to stop, don't make a new account. but why create account in the first place?

you exclude your first account that should make that account notable to bet. therefore its excluded. solve. just stop visiting stake or any other casino so you won't have urge to try again.

Blaming someone else for your addiction is not the way to go.Even if Stake blocked your IP-s,including VPN-s as they can see your patterns which browser do you use,which OS and so on and so forth based on the addiction you have would immediately go to another website which does not require KYC and gamble all way out there.

I think the only solution to your problem is to ask for help from friends and family to go and visit a professional help center.There are also software which block many websites but based on your addiction I don't think they will work for you as you can uninstall them and go back to gambling in no time so the only solution is to seek professional help.

You can get into huge action, sure but have you tried cashing out with all the fake accounts? Highly likely you wont be able to as if the amount is truly huge, you might have to go through KYC. There are levels of KYC as well depending on the amount you are working with. Almost all sportsbooks and casinos are very friendly while creating accounts but the issues arrive when it comes to withdrawal. If you are suffering from gambling addiction and the only problem you find is "its too easy to create new accounts", you should seek professional psychologist/help. Hope you get better.

All deposits and withdrawals have never had any issues. The system does not identify users or create multiple accounts.

"How are they allowed to do this" dude if you have a problem with gambling, seek help. reading through your post it seems that you really have no plan of taking your self-exclusion seriously and I don't think you'll get any(or at least from me) sympathy for what you are doing. also, if you really want to "end this madness" put yourself in a rehabilitation center because it looks like self-exclusion means nothing to you.

Or not stake.com that you are talking about? Before you can deposited on your account on Stake, you will have to submit ID documents.



I was surprised that you come here with yourself saying you are able to open two and more accounts on Stake but I do not believe. If you click on deposit on the site, the image above will popup and you will need to verify.

Having more than one account on gambling sites is against their ToS.

He blames Stake because he still can make news accounts. Of course Stake will welcome everyone even your first and 2nd account and everybody else account as long as they place. They are building a casino business and if you lose its not their fault.

Since you tried self exclusion, I think you really have to take it seriously that you exclude yourself voluntarily. If you register another account VOLUNTARILY, then you also want to gamble VOLUNTARILY.

There were big deposits and big withdrawls on each account.

All it takes to deposit crypto is a fake email, and fake European address. There is no verification process

Where the OP is driving to is that without stringent verification that it will be hard or not possible to successfully use self exclusion feature on a gambling site. That it is possible you self exclude yourself on a gambling site or your family self exclude you but you keep on registering on the same gambling site again and again because of verification that is not taken stringent, but that is not the case for Stake.

Even addict should not deceive themselves and be blamming one gambling site, because there are other casino sites like https://livecasino.io and other trustworthy online casinos that he can also play, even if the sites all support KYC, an addict can register on more than one casino site and this is nothing different than moving from one casino to another and yet still gambling, making self exclusion more difficult to achieve by themselves.

Maybe you can let us know your country to let a reputable member that is using Stake to testify to this. I set my VPN to France and just like I am using my IP address, verification was still required.

You have nailed it on the head.
Countries are New Zealand and australia.

Most gambling sites that offer anonymous gambling do not prevent you from opening a new account.

Besides, as long as you are not cheating, you are always welcome to use the new account to continue gambling.
They love people to gamble, so why would they care about that, just gamble and they'll be happy, but if you have a problem with gambling, then you are just fooling yourself, and I hope you will not blame a gambling site for your mistake.

Maybe they're just slow at this which is understandable if they have a lot of players, I takes time to verify each account and you're making more than one a day. I bet you're not their only player to do so, but breaking the TOS is always risky. They can block your account and refuse to pay you anything, so every time you play you risk double. It could work a few times and then one time it won't and you'll come here crying that they're trying to scam you.

It seems the Stake operators are too busy so they don't have time to detect your account and IP, I'm sure if they find you registering more than 5-10 accounts with the same IP, rest assured you will be kicked out by the Stake operators.

Sometimes, there are also gambling sites that let users play and register more than 2-3 accounts, as long as the user is not cheating and violating the bonuses and rules, Looks like Stake is intentionally letting you sign up for more than one account, because you don't seem to be blaming their rules, which is the bottom line: if they found out you would have been blacklisted.

Try to bet professionally on one account and fight for the vip level, maybe that's the best way for most professional gambling addicts.

Well, even though how many accounts that you have made or created, even though hundreds or thousands of accounts this does not have an effect on them. The problem is only you because of the fact and the reality --you cannot win against the odds ever.
The comment earlier was right --read the terms very carefully to understand the possible risk and perhaps the gambling casino will not pay you once they found a violation.

There is no power on earth to keep you from playing if you can't do it yourself. Stop blaming stake. If you are addicted to gambling, see a doctor take professional help. Stake makes its money from gamblers like you especially. It is not their fault that you can't control yourself.

Do you blame tobacco sellers too? There are many smoking addicts who can't resist smoking tobacco whenever they see someone smoking. They buy a new pack right away. It is the same thing.

Now, even you're getting blocked on "Stake"

Did you're not gonna to register in other site? I think even stake are blocked any service with you. Based on your scenario, you're gonna to still gambling but with only different site. So, there is nothing different at all.

What you need to do is your gambling habits.

Hey!
Alright let me answer it in a way that is not offensive to any of the part. First of all I do think that you understand that only some casinos don't have things like KYC and stuff available so only a limited no. Of casinos can would allow players which is actually very good since some players choose discretion over anything else. So if stake allows to use VPN and to make new accounts easier than ever then they are not responsible for people going into a negative direction with it, I understand that you can be mad at the casino but take advice from a medical student and seek professional help, you got your whole life ahead of you thus, if you don't take a step right now, you might never do.
Get into contact with gambling addiction helplines! Go to therapy and get drugs according to it. It's not easy addiction is sometimes genetic as well, don't blame anyone, be responsible.

Not all addicts who self exclude themselves to stop 100% gambling in the future, so that's why they didn't permanently banned your accounts and it's somewhat make sense about it. Since you said "no other sites allows you to do this" can you wrote those casinos and make sure it's not a fiat based casino where you have link your KYC and bank accounts in order to play. In crypto casinos isn't strict like fiat casinos and I don't think all crypto casinos will permanently ban your account.

You are 16 years old but have been gambling a lot and keep creating new accounts if you can't use your previous account? Hm, I don't think all sites will enforce the self-exclusion rule, and I don't think Stake will enforce it either since you can create multiple accounts. But the question is, how can your age be able to deposit 100k worth of crypto? Are you the son of a rich man?

But in this case, we agree that you are having problems with gambling, and I am worried that it is a gambling addiction because you said you could come back within 2 weeks. I suggest you be honest with your family and ask for their advice so you can get out of the gambling circle. In addition, you are still very young. You can still do a lot more than just playing gambling.

Is there something you think Stake should do in this situation? What do you suggest? Would any measures actually prevent you from opening a new account?

The truth is that if you really want to limit the availability of gambling platforms, you'll need to take a lot of other steps to do it. The best way to protect yourself and avoid the temptations of gambling is to avoid online casinos entirely and there are software solutions that can help you in this regard. In fact, there are numerous programs that will scan your internet connection to see if you're visiting sites that can put you at risk of accessing online gambling sites.

Hi @Op,
I can also advise you to seek professional help.
you can start even without any expense.
 there are "anonymous" groups online, where you can find practical advice on how to deal with this kind of addiction.
the problem is that when you have an addiction then you are more prone to having another one!
 you are very young and you have to face this problem to prevent it from getting worse! ::)
I wish you the best

Thai is not a big surprise to me because this is a Crypto Casino and even though the information you dropped with them are fake, no one cares because it is decentralized. No one cares about how account you are creating but the joy is to get what you want. Crypto casino does not need to identity to proof that you are the same person previous times. That is the job we get using cryptocurrency supported casino in betting and having fun.

You are just trolling, you will have to get verified before you can deposit on Stake, not only email is required for deposit, but only email is required to register but in a way you can not deposit unless you provide your document ID.

Crypto can be decentralized but there are many crypto organizations that are not decentralized, example are exchanges and many gambling sites. Do not take it as correct to say gambling sites are decentralized, though there are decentralized ones but most crypto gambling sites are not decentralized.

In this OP case, he is only trolling.

I don't understand where you're going with all this? do you want stake.com to ban people when they lose their login details they won't be able to create another account? do you think that would be fair? I think the following:

The site has its TOS that says that a person has to have only one account, in which case they are saying that the person can only have one active account on the site, in case the person loses account login details I think that person can log in contact support to allow you to create another account. But you are trying to harm other people. you have an addiction, you need to cure that addiction and you are trying to blame stake.com because of your addiction and that is not fair. You can't be breaking the stake.com TOS either


Don't drag your addiction problems to the casino

Maybe you feel like this can just get away with it and go according to plan. but one thing you have to remember is playing games to try to trick the casino with dirty acts. Without you knowing it does not mean that Stake.com provides free access to self-exclusion. But you have entered a game that will make you lose at some point to bet. If it makes you feel like playing without restrictions, then I'm sure your account is really being watched.

regardless of your actions and what goals you want to achieve. In this case Stake.com will no longer tolerate when you come with a complaint.

You don't have a problem with Stake, you have a problem with gambling. My advice is to seek professional help and not count on half measures which are only implemented as a courtesy. If you want to gamble you will find 20 more sites offering similar things to Stake in few clicks. Nobody gonna exclude you there.

Gambling is a real problem and only you can take control of your addiction. Don't mean I am just preaching to you, I have played a ticket every single day for last 20 years but I took control of my addiction in a way of managing stakes and limiting my bank. I still play high stake tickets but only on the most valuable odds when I judge bokies made a mistake, so in the end when I loose I loose little and when I win I cover all those losses. That works for me in sports gambling, don't know how I would set it up for casino.

You realize that you're the one breaking the law here right?  Stake has gone through painstaking efforts to keep users off their platform that are located in areas that aren't supposed to be online gambling.  You use fake information, a VPN to hide your online identity, and crypto deposits to mask who is sending the funds...  Why complain about Stake?  What do you think they should do?  I'm sure at some point KYC will be forced on everyone in the industry, but complaining that you've found a way around it to gamble illegally and blaming Stake for not imposing insane restrictions on it's users to keep people like you from breaking the law seems like you're not taking personal responsibility for your actions.  Just stop gambling man.  It sounds like it isn't for you.

Since now you have made 50 accounts at stake, how about depositing money in each of those accounts  :D

May i know the reason and benefit you get by making dozens of accounts at stake or at any gambling site. Just prepare as skate will soon enforce a kyc on all of your accounts as soon as they found anything suspicious gong on with your 50 fake accounts.

According to you OP, is this Stake's fault that you're able to cheat them using VPN and a fake address, or maybe it's all on you?
You're cheating them and bragging about it, saying that you're going to do it again. I don't get it. You want us to congratulate you, or what?

I Am kind of skeptical about the ops, I have made a similar suggestion about this in my previous comment. But even at that the ops are trolling at the moment for as far as I know stake has a strict law against multiple accounting and has some level of KYC in place, but then if a player wishes to self exclude themselves from the casino it is an individual effort and not the responsibility of the casino to keep them away.

This is beyond the control of any site, disregarding the terms and conditions will always be a choice of a gambler and if you got caught most probably, you’ll do this all over again. The problem here is not with Stake anymore, it is your problem OP and you should solve it the right way. That addiction is not good, it can totally affect your whole life so don’t fool yourself by asking the site to exclude you, better to focus on your own recovery plan.

Most probably he just want to share his bad habit and be proud of it.
The site is working good, helping those gamblers who wants to be excluded but then again the site can still be access and vulnerable to a VPN user, even if its not allowed some are still able to play and took the risk by using it. If OP can’t handle the addiction anymore, most probably his mental health is already affected and by this, the site can’t totally help him anymore and this is not a responsibility of the site. Though hopefully, those casinos can finally find the solution to monitor VPN users, this can be a big help if ever.

You answered it yourself and that is, by using VPN or didn't expect the VPN to be any functional. It might come easy for you by using the means available to you by creating awareness of a policy violation to have them block your account only to register a new with VPN but in the end should you come by a huge win, the result of your actions would be heard in the scam accusation board. Its best you stick to an account if you've got the zeal to make bets regularly.
Perhaps your doing all these because you want to fight addiction and if that be the case, going for therapy would be a good place to start and then, you might want to keep up with the bet, just not frequently as before. You gradually get to step it down that a sudden break.

Stake is a good and secured site, that’s why many gamblers are trying to use VPN to experience the site even if they are not allowed. If OP is doing the same thing, then Stake can’t control that anymore because its already addiction and probably even if Stake banned your account, you can just easily create on another site and the problem continues. If you really want to get away from that addiction, better to talk to yourself and create a strategy on how to avoid gambling and how to control yourself.

You will be caught by the Stake team sooner or later due to using an alt account which is not allowed according to T&C. Using alt account is easy with entering fake information to deposit but you will get in trouble in case if they ask for verification to withdraw winnings. They let you play with KYC 1 level that you filled form on signup but your IP will be blocked sooner or later. Even if using public IP addresses of VPN can't be a permanent solution.

if he does really want to change, he should start from himself and contemplate hard on things. the truth is, the casino itself has only limitations as to how they can track all these new users. as most players can create their account without having to undergo kyc, they can truly create as many accounts as they can. however, if in case, the casino suddenly asks kyc, that's when the player will have hard time accomplishing it. in terms of addiction, it is the person himself that can change his lifestyle for the better.

Why are you doing this what's the purpose to test Stake's self-exclusion, Stake will eventually catch you, you are not still under their radar yet but you will have issues when you win a huge amount and try to withdraw, this is cheating and you might get your IP ban, once you play in a casino you should make your account clean and follow the TOS of the casino testing the capability of one casino will backfire and we are talking of Stake, the number one casino in the industry who is good in tracing their cheaters.

^ Funny fact when they get caught by the Stake team they will be called a scam, not paying users and possibly locking account and cannot withdraw fund.
It is very risky because probably the Stake.com can verify the user's device use and 1 device has the same device number or name that could keep appearing in their system as a newly come. Though you can trick them using different Ip addresses the device that you have used you cannot fool them and now it will probably they are aware of it. Good luck to you, you should have control yourself not to do this frequently if you are truly a gambler.

Yeah.. because I actually think you are the problem here and not Stake, because Stake is actually one of the coolest casino I have ever known with good games, fast deposit and withdrawer payments which is actually what people look out for when chosing a casino. So please if you love to use the Stake casino, why not play a fair play and have your fair pay, instead of running around the bush.

If you created a ton of accounts with the same IP Address there's a chance that you might get blocked in some instance at the same time you are using a VPN by that there's a possible suspicious activity at the same time you are under 18 well it is all your concern now because you tried to play gambling, of course, you must need to know the possibilities might come up if you are getting addicted, always gamble at your own risk.

What do you want to prove here? Stake is working in the belief of giving maximum benefits to their customers. But i think this kind of test of yours is unnecessary. Since they are giving you convenience and they are at the top level in gambling with success. So you will say that they are very friendly towards the users. I personally do not support doing something like this. I think they try to provide better gambling place according to the expectation of the users.

As mentioned a lot of times here in this forum, Stake has a weak self-exclusion program, hence why you are still able to create new accounts with just a VPN, a fake name, and a fake email. You should put it to yourself to stop 'the madness' that you're mentioning, as it is not Stake's problem anymore to curb your addiction because they've done their part, no matter how weak or how ineffective it may seem. Also, sooner or later your IP will be leaked to them, which may eventually lead to a blacklist. I think that's what you should aim for, and not hide behind a VPN if you really want to stop gambling.

Controlling yourself from gambling addiction is totally on your end and casino can't restrict you playing from different new accounts.You need to have self-realization that you are on losing end and stake has nothing to do with it as they are business who wants profits from gamblers.Study about cases and do some meditation and spend time with your close one's that can help you to avoid gambling and maybe it's helpful to you.

I think you took advantage on it, since you know there is no KYC at stakes casino, You took the opportunity to create multiple accounts by using a VPN to think that you are somewhere else. In short, according to my observation the shortcoming is also in you. Then it’s not that easy to get rid of the addiction you now have to gambling all the time, I’m sure you’ll go through a proper process before it goes away.

I also don't think that Stake casino is not a good gambling to play with, because your the one who proved that it is one of the good place to play with, why did I say that? because you made several times of accounts using VPN.

I am not sure if Stake has a self-excluded program for gamblers as that program gives advantages and disadvantages to the casino.
People who want to activate the self-excluded can do this if they want but when it comes to the addicted gambler, I am not sure if they can do that because that will not be easy for them to stop themselves from playing gambling.
But it seems you need to control yourself to avoid returning to the casino, as I see that you might have a gambling addiction.
Even if Stake or other casinos have a self-excluded program, if you can not control yourself, that program will not work because you can return to that casino repeatedly.

Why put blame in the gambling site when it is an obvious that you cannot survive on your own from your addiction , why not seek for help from your family and friends or even in professionals because you will never get out of that unless you have a proper treatment and your own desire and dedication.
because even if Stake banned your IP address but because you are addicted , then you can use VPN or even use a regular Data so you can still access the site.

OP seems to be an addict because he is keeping on creating new accounts while he still wants to stop gambling.
He wants to get himself banned but he's using the wrong way to stop gambling.
Telling others on stake that he's using VPN and is 16 gives out a bad impression on others.
In fact he is in a way encouraging others to do the same things. OP should stop doing these activities.

obviously he is a perfect example of an addicted gambler , he even admitted everything that he is doing , from pretending to be a Minor, and even telling the site that he is using VPN , this is a clear proof that he is having a mental problem towards gambling.
and also seems like he is making this story against Stake.com? because why continuously creating account in Stake.com when there are many gambling site that he can try and play?

I think he's just bored... I don't know how he doesn't hate opening new mail and casino accounts every time? He probably has too much free time and a lot of energy that he spends on stupid things, as we can see. It would be better for him to look for something smarter to do, something useful that could fulfill him! If he keeps banging his head against the wall, he will hurt himself!

Even if Stake has multi-layers to fence off most of the alt-account tricks, he would seek other betting sites and attempt the same bypass tricks to meet his impure and gambling addict. Heck, He can make one account per any betting site and be done with it. Why would he lament on Stake only for its poor screening against alt-account tricks? Seems like it wasn't betting sites problem but his.

OP, no system is "Fail Safe" .....even if you play at Brick n Mortar casinos. People can easily get fake "KYC documents" on the Internet to bypass the KYC requirements. So the problem is not with Stake.com, but rather with you not willing to face your gambling addiction and dealing with it.

You should seriously rather focus on getting some help with your addiction and stop wasting time on "playing" with workarounds to continue gambling. Good luck with sorting out the real problems.... and getting on with your life.  ;)

What do you get from doing this everything you do on Stake.com are recorded your IP your bets your history your location, you may not encounter issues right now but when you won a big amount and want to withdraw they will point all your violations, you don't take for granted what Stake.com can do they have proven that once they disable and ban your account it is backed by strong pieces of evidence, so stop doing this and change your way before its too late.

that means you are giving a solid advice to people will never encountered with stake.com platform but in actual sense when you violate the law or a procedures of a particular site they notify you through email address that you have violated their rules. So that your steak all the money you deposited to play the bed will you not be a West of money for this method I'm seeing many of them introduce by allying you 2 break their law and after you might mean a bigger money in the platform they will face you with the laws are broken and they want to have access to make a withdrawal. That is very bad and then looking at it very well I will see you that is on other phones off dividing funds.

Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.

It is very hard for a casino or gambling platform to track users especially those who have multiple accounts. A user can decided to use VPN to login to accounts and play games without any difficult especially for decentralized crypto gambling platforms. Everything is becoming decentralized and many Casinos are not interested in watching your movement except sometimes is wrong somewhere.

Don't underestimate Stake.com they have proven their capability in tracking these cheaters, you just have to check the scam section and see for yourself how Stake.com address these issues with proof and evidence but I'd like to see Stake.com's answer on this issue, but for me, I don't think they are ignoring these cheaters, they will just surprise them on the right time.

Actually, crypto casinos started as fully decentralized but we are slowly transforming into centralized due to some regulations which require crypto casinos to make their customers comply with the KYC. Yes, there are still some casinos that allow us to gamble anonymously, we should stick with them and we have to understand how to manage the risk, not play the blame game.

In fact, the OP did not provide any evidence that he created many accounts in stake.com apart from his words, we have nothing else and how in general he tried to "fight" gambling addiction by creating new accounts.

But they have an algorithm to their system if there's a suspicious account by that they can add those into their watch list of users' activity and by that if they think having a KYC is a must and you still have a balance probably you need to submit verification to proceed with the gambling activity.

The problem of ops is more of an addiction and not multi-accounting, because, in the long run, all those accounts are going to be blocked by the stake security team because there has been a violation of their terms and conditions. I hope to see the iOS returning to complain about the total ban of his accounts, what ops need is personal determination to stay away from gambling because casinos are after revenue generation and may take longer to notice small IP violations unless there is a big winning.

Like what the others have said, it's all on you and your responsibility if you really want to quit and get away from them. There's the point that you're addressing that anyone is free to make as many accounts as they can.

But, they can tackle that on their own and you don't have to be worried of it, thinking all along because they have their own system of doing that.

Well, if it pertains to addiction and you have it and even you do self-exclusion, you'll really find a way to gamble again no matter what feature they have.

I'm sure that Stake is already aware of what you're doing. There are lots of rules from their TOS that you have broken and obviously, the mistake isn't at Stake but your abusive activity. I'm not sure if you're just trying to explore things on their site but it's best if you will quit and stop creating accounts there. Your Ip or even your VPNs will be banned soon. Also, you're still underage and gambling isn't good for you.

I never tried but I guess you can create accounts as many as you want if you keep changing your IP-address.

To be honest, I haven't saw a gambler who keeps on creating more accounts to quit gambling.  :D

So what do you suggest OP, what do you think they can do to stop you from creating new accounts without affecting other players/users?
In order to detect any new account you create, they will either have to close registration for new users (which is out of question) or they will have to enforce kyc and ask every new user to verify his identity which most users won't like and we will see many complaints. And even then, am sure you will find a way to get around such restrictions.
A friendly advice, try talking with your family or close friends about your gambling problems, they may help you.

Indeed! If OP just wanted to exclude himself then he should try and have a safe distance not just with Stake but to other casino platforms as well, he already admits that he's addicted to gambling already and that takes quite courage to admit it. The final resort is to control himself and have another hobby/habit where it's much more positive.

If we take a look to the TOS you will realize they don't allow multiple accounts:


If any user decide to create multiple accounts, there will be a risk of loosing all of them with their founds. The risk doesn't worth it. Even if you change your IP on each account there is a risk of get tracked by cookies.

Always read the terms guys. It's what a user need to do every time you try a new casino:
https://stake.com/policies/terms

Stake.com has nothing to do with the OP addiction even if he spends millions of Dollars building new accounts just betting every day. Stake.com is not a service to quit gambling addiction. As much as possible for whatever reason it's not Stake.com job. So apart from self-exclusion what the OP did was purely his own fault for not being able to control his gambling.

Is this a joke?
Just so you know, almost all gambling sites allows this. They do not restrict any creation of new accounts regardless if you have created an account through a VPN, original IP, same/different device, or any other way to create an account. But hey, remember that they have terms about multi accounting ;)
To me, it looks like you're just messing with Stake and haven't really have any real problem with them. I don't know, I'm just guessing based from your context.
Regardless, the problem is yourself not Stake. Above all, I highly believe that this case is NOT REAL.

You aren't tricking Stake casino, you are tricking yourself.  Anyone can register and deposit to play in any online casino but the restriction would be on withdrawing your winning if you are able to win a huge sum of money.  Aside from that, it is concerning that you blame stake for your uncontrollable urge to gamble.  It is actually a sign of deep gambling addiction.


You should be, since gambling addiction is hard to treat, others said once you got it, it is implanted to you for a life time.  All the gambling addiction specialist can do is to advice treatment that will control your gambling addiction.  You should get help ASAP and stop fooling around.

First, the OP appears to have a gambling addiction problem and the earlier she get help better for her and her family.
Having said that, what she doesn't understand is that every casino has its rules and regulations which they operated on in the aspect of user violating with multiple accounts because nothing will happen now until the casino have something tangible hook her.

Why the hell should they stress you or make it so difficult to open an account when it's customers they want at OP. It's the main reason why they run a promotion here (signature campaigns) and having a rather difficult process to an account registration is a one time pass for prospective customers to seek patronage on other competing sites.
It's very wrong of you at OP to create an account, have it deactivated, only to create another one in few minutes, hours or days as the need applies. Users like you at OP calls fir a mandatory KYC as you are rather abusing the system and maing things difficult for everyone. Perhaps you could live an account be if it's useless at a time and use it when the need arises. Who knows, it might have some promotional bonuses on it.

Not sure what they can do to help someone going out of their way to avoid detection, gambling is everywhere in alot of countries.    Even if you moved to a part of the world where gambling is banned outright for religious reasons and so on, you will still find underground gambling games and people throwing dice in back alleys.   There is no escape from personal responsibility that I know of, avoid temptation and occupy yourself with an outside job take up deep sea fishing but probably every fishing boat they play cards too.

The sole responsibility of the player is to protect themself from getting addicted to games on gambling sites, even though some platforms have self-exclusion features. Even if stake blocks all your account you can still make new ones on other casinos so if you are not determined by yourself you may still fall back into your addiction.

A site can never always do everything it can to ensure that a player can create accounts again. If a player would like to continue gambling after exclusion, for example, it is not very difficult to create a new account via a proxy server, for example. Certainly in combination with the KYC, which will only be requested later. So I think it's mainly the player's responsibility to make sure he doesn't create other accounts. If he does, you can't possibly put the blame on the site.

Ahahahaha, good explanation. man. I think this is enough good reason to stop play on Stake (if you're OP and don't want to play anymore, ofc)  :D

This is typical practice within casinos. They know you're violating something but they want you to spend your money. If you win - you're get in trouble. Otherwise - no problem. Until you start to win, as i said

Despite their efforts to promote a sustainable and helpful means to combat gambling addiction, remember that they are still a company that is profit-driven.

The problem here is not Stake, but your overall attitude in gambling. While it may be easy to create an account on their website, your addiction is what keeps you from coming back and registering on them. You are only 16 years old- your have a life that is way more than gambling. Try your best to change your habits and create some sort of discipline.

If you are having trouble to control this, then I highly suggest you consult with your parents about this in order to prevent yourself from becoming addicted further.

Let's say this thread can help you start to be honest with yourself, show your gaming patterns or more specifically info daily of your habits...etc. but coming to tell us that a specific casino cannot prevent you from playing, because basically you think you are breaking the rules and they don't stop you... ok, but that gives me to see you in another attitude...

You are a troll, as others have already commented... the issue of addictions is something very serious and the solution is never in the casino, once in a while not even in the professional help that you can receive, it is the family or a friend who is by your side to prevent you from retaking the bets without control.

^{* by the way make accounts in the forum too is easy.
**Seek help for your addiction / obsession, your recurring behavior identify you with an obsessive pattern of denial.}

Is this a joke OP? I understand that something must be done for Stake to manage their self-exclude program properly but is that really a necessary thing to happen first before someone will stop gambling? In your everyday lives, it's quite difficult to imagine that no Gambling-related thing you will encounter for a week.

Come on, help yourself. You even visit a gambling section therefore you always have access to gambling-related things if you really want.

If you can't do something about your problem, don't find other reasons why you can't move forward.

I don't even think you are that addicted as you can still post properly.

I am going to be direct with you, you have way bigger problems than the self-exclusion system of stake not being as good as the system in other casinos, even if it was then you will just gamble in another casino and keep gambling anyway, so this is not really a problem that can be solved by stake improving their self-exclusion, even if that is something they should do, you need professional help and fast, you are quite young so I think you could make a full recovery with the right help and the support of your family, but stop trying to shift the blame away otherwise you are never going to recover from your gambling addiction.

I find this very disturbing and risky for those who take for granted the security measures employed by casinos, I have seen scam accusations unable to withdraw because of multi-accounting then denying they have double accounts on the casino, they forget or ignore that every account login is recorded be it you log in after a year or two years, then you encounter an issue when you try to withdraw because you're hit with amnesia that you forgot that you have another account years back, the database never forgets.

Yeah same as my concern mate because this is about the security that we are caring here , and also their system does not giving big value on how gamblers move , but once they Hit Jackpot then surely that other account will be banned and the funds will be taken.

but other than that? also OP is seems to be super addict and he cannot help Himself from gambling and continues to find way to bet.

Where have you seen it is backed by strong pieces of evidence when Stake do this kind of thing please? Could you quote a post or give a link of a thread where they have shown this kind of "strong evidences" according to you? Unfortunately I didn't see much professionalism from their part on this matter. Contrariwise, they seem to abuse their own rule to lock funds of legit winners while not doing anything as long as their customers are losing their money.

Hoping that this exposure will bring the attention of Stake.com of what they are missing in this part , imagine letting players creating multiple account like what OP is trying to mention here.
maybe His main concern here is not about Him addicting to gamble but what is missing in Stake security and operations.

Obviously he has a lot of free time as he mentioned he's just 16. I think he's not even placing any major bets because that would require a big deposit.
So creating multiple accounts he is just abusing the system on Stake platform.
As long as he is not depositing any big amount he's good but once he deposits a big amount I think Stake will try to freeze his money.
This will teach him a lesson may be.

That's what I'm saying because he will continue finding another place to gamble and yes His addiction will not stop unless it is on His own desire and doing .

We should understand that Gambling site is a Business that will never end, there are site that may close but there will always new one that will pop up so the cycle is the same and this is how it will work.

Gambling is always a gambling and gambler will always gamble.

well Either stake or Op's mistake yet there are some things must be taken in to consideration from this topic.

even if you can make multiple accounts in any gambling sites? yet you will suffer in the future mate , because once you become lucky to win bigger amount then you'll  remember this things that you've done when the casino tells you and banned your account while withdrawing or asks for your kyc .
remember that casinos online hates when we create multiple accounts and you will only find this when your funds stocked and you cant take because of your past actions .

You will say its easy until your withdrawals put on hold and customer support will say you violated the rules so the funds won't be returned which sounds fun or harsh? Its you trying to bypass the registration with fake email and proxy IP but at some point you will get caught and the loss will be for you and no one can be blamed for that.

Idk, pretty sure it's not only stakes responsibility to do something about the problem, it's also yours?  They already did something about your og account, you making more is basically ruining the fix that they did.

Gambing addiction is not only the problem of casinos, it's also the problem of the involved person and blaming them like this simply pushes the responsibility away.

You're deliberately tempting Stake and challenging their security measures anyone can do that and make it look easy just like what you're doing, but the hardest part is when you tried to withdraw and you have been tracked as deliberately cheating and breaking the rule and you will have a lot of explaining to do, never underestimate Stake or any casinos for that matter.

This is a business model where the client's details and actions within their system are tracked, analyze, and evaluated, you are already tracked, they don't give you a warning yet but you soon will and when that comes you'll regret it.

I don't understand what's the point you've talked about, this like you're trying to attack Stake and also other casinos since they're allow you to deposit and wouldn't allow you to withdraw which is scam website.

Well, I'm a regular gambler on Stake and it doesn't work like that. Stake always allow me to withdraw even the amount that I feel is can be said as big amount, if you have looked their twitter, you will know how much they pay to lucky gamblers.

This matter isn't about the casino only, but the person who need to control himself.

What happens is that in this day and age we live in a society that likes to push the blame away and point fingers at anyone but themselves, and this is something that some people find to be incredibly convenient.

However there is a big problem with that and that is that when it comes to addictions you need to recognize that you have a problem and that you are the only one that can solve it, if you do not go through that process then it is basically going to be possible for that person to beat their addictions regardless of what system casinos employ to try to disallow them to create new accounts in their websites.

Creating of account is easier one in almost all the casino.Actually in some casino, they allow you to play without kyc. It doesn't mean, they are not a trusted casino.The thing is they want to flexible their site for the users.
Secondly you had mentioned as 16 year old,So it's better to quit the game.Because you may play the game with your parents money.After 18 years, you may stand with your funds.So after 18 you can play with the casino with your own money, it's the suggestion.If you play with your own money, it will be enough for your full enjoyment.

It is pretty same on every other sites and not just with stake, on almost all website i know of, including gambling casinos, crypto currency exchanges, social media platforms, what ever the site is, you can easily create new accounts , all that is required is just a new email address, and username, and a new phone number if the site is one that tried to verify users through their phone number.
This is one of the benefits of KYC, it helps prevent multi accounting, only thing is that this does not benefit the user, but the casinos alone.

What this guy saying is odd. I couldn't deposit without submitting my Id a week ago. So this guy might be a liar.

Yes. But, at the same time, KYC verification is no magic bullet either, and sometimes even KYC is not enough to stop the bad people from creating multiple accounts on gambling platforms. Almost anything that is digital can be forged very easily, including personal identification documents. Any document can be manipulated or hacked and it is very much possible that people impersonate other people.

You are right, even people who are careless by using KYC everywhere and not a few cases of selling data are now getting more and more widespread, so they can use data/documents to be misused like this kind of action too. On the other hand, we won't know which documents are genuine, so in this case high-level verification of complying with KYC in casinos is still said to be not too difficult.

Looking at the whole thing here, I think it's quite psychological and you're just the problem and perhaps need urgent attention. Like apart from stake even with others using KYC am sure it still wouldn't deter you from recreation of accounts after another.
This ain't funny anyway!