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Long time not online here and i'm back just wants to share a new case around me that related with gambling, especially slots.

My neighbor is in debt of $9000 just for playing slot games. This is bad, considering the amount of money in my country is enough to build a house.

History:
- His friends share the winnings from slot to him
- He is interested an trying to play
- He's being addicted
- Lose and owe to his friends and bank to play more but so sad he is loss again till his owe hitting $9000
- Hard to pay his owe, he finally ran away and now his family need to pay all of his debts.
- AFAIK, his family wants to sells their land to pay off the gambler's debt.

So, careful with your slot activity. make sure you are staying away from any loan just for slots. Actually, this case not from gambling sites just playing android games named "Higgs Domino"

Slots machine are one of the worst if not the worst game that you can play because obviously it will not be on your favor. I was one addicted to slot, losing big money every night, but there were times that I will also win big. But in the end, the numbers is not going to lie.

Extreme control is really needed because once you are hook up to your favorite game, there is no looking back until you lost everything and in debt.

Not with slots or the mentioned Higgs Domino, it is common with gambling. When you risk your money with gambling, there is probability of making a win as well as losing everything. This is much associated with the luck, even if you make several strategies to make yourself successful. The mistake is with his friends, they shouldn't have shared their winning out of slot and requested him to try. Just because they've won, it won't work with everyone. So, he could've realised it and now things have gone out of hands.

I don't know how your neighbor ended up in debt from playing an online Android game. The only way I can think of is through in-app purchases, which demand real money in exchange for additional perks that might improve user experience.

Plus, I'm certain there is no way to verify the randomness of each and every game since the application that can be downloaded in playstore is somehow not properly scrutinized.

It's not just slots, it's gambling in general really. Honestly once the "ask for loans" phase started, the victims' family or friends should've honestly persuaded the said person from continuing the gambling, especially in this case where the debt went up to $9000. Pretty sure $9k is a pretty big amount in any country, I'm kinda dumbfounded how it never actually hit the person in question about his loan going up to $9k. Even going to idk, $1k or $2k is enough to wake me up and stop gambling even if temporary just to pay the debt.

Not to mention it's an android app it seems? Read a few reviews and it doesn't seem to be anything good. Idk why this was even recommended as a place to play slots even.

This is a common case with gambling generally. Lenders should do proper investigation to know how addicted loan takers are to gambling before issuing out loans to them. He should be found because he needs rehab else he might keep taking more loans to satisfy his gambling quest . It is so sad his family will have to pay with their house making which might push to them to the streets if the have no where else to turn to after clearing the debt

Actually this case is often heard around me and in general there are many cases like this.
There was once a friend who borrowed money from me with the aim of gambling but I firmly would not give a loan to gamble, but this would become a problem later and it would be difficult to return it, and in the end my friend borrowed the money from someone else and spent it that $2000 loan is more or less and it's still not repaid, so it's ironic to hear this story is almost the same as those around me.

After all, this is the most fatal thing to borrow just to gamble, of course this will all lose and become an uncontrollable emotion.

That's why I often control myself to avoid the things that happened with this story.

I think "Careful with your gambling activity" is the more appropriate title for this thread. Yes he lost playing slots but he could have lost in the same manner with dice or other casino games.

You can't just say it's the worst without a proper comparison. Did you end up in profit from playing other games? Please share your experience as well for fairness sake.

This game can be played for free. You get a lot of free spins and don't have to bet anything.


That's correct. I don't think you can verify rolls in any way by playing this game, which is why they're giving so many free spins. They hope somebody gets hooked up and spends some money on the game. It's not a casino. I doubt they are playing it fair. It's a redistribution scheme where someone has to lose for the script to know there's money in the bank for payouts and then it allows some people to win up to the point where they drain the bank again.

I agree with you and I think all gamblers need to understand this, in gambling it is either you win or you lose but the possibility of losing is always higher than winning that's why you don't need to gamble with everything you have. Yes luck plays a vital role in gambling but I wonder why gamblers are not always having that luck whenever they engage in the game that means luck is not for gamblers.

I think his friends made no mistake in sharing their winnings with him or even asking him to try he would have declined the offer not to try because he was not forced to try but greed made him to play and he has ended up being an afficted gambler.

Slots machines are the easiest game in most of the casinos, you are just simply clicking here that's why many are getting addict in gambling because of this game. Slots are addicting honestly, especially if you continue to bet beyond your limit already. I feel sorry to that guy and to his family, this should be avoided if didn't get hype by his friend. This is a warning for everyone that you should not listed to anyone's advice to gamble because you might not be lucky here and worst, you might ended up like this guy.

The specific slot shouldn’t be blame here because it was design just for fun gambling and not to be addicted to it. The problem here is your friend being greedy and not the slot game because he can avoid losing if he properly manage his bankroll and also the other guy that encouraged him to play slot should be part of the blame too because he start all this things. He manipulate your friend to copy him by using his personal experience to seduce your friend.

Rehab is what your friend needs. In my country, You can’t be put to jail by just having a huge debt so people can still recover by earning slowly on the job. Maybe your has this kind of policy too.

I feel bad for the family of your friend since they're forced to pay off his debt and your friend didn't even do anything about it and just ran away.

It doesn't hurt to share winnings with your friends as sometimes I do the same thing but we don't know the entire story though. It's possible that it was just him who wanted to try the game instead of his friends encouraging him to gamble.

That's very tricky. Still his neighbor is hooked and eventually sends money to the app. Some internet users are really this naive to purchase things within the app. You can actually skip these since they act like an adverts while you play the slot. His neighbor however is just too hooked to it. My kid was once hooked to games that I have to put my paypal account in iPad for purchasing addition features to the games.

The need for self-control cannot be overemphasized when it comes to gambling. $9000 is a huge some of money, well the family would have to go ahead and sell one of their landed properties to save face. I know their kid would return because he obviously has no money to look after himself. When he does, he should be taken in for rehabilitation if not someday, he's going to place a place a bet with one of the family's properties and lose it.

This is not about slot activity only, but in anything that related with money due to it's speculation/prospect/calculation!

Before start anything that have a high risk, it's better to learn about the risk and how you can handle it if your speculation goes wrong. If you're not familiar with loan and can't accept the risk, it's better to not ask for a loan.

I've seen many businessman take a huge loan and then his company is failed, trader take a loan because he believe with his analysis etc, But they're not earn anything and rekt.

Doing gambling with debt, very bad to one's character building in gambling, will not work too if he is not a professional gambler who has swallowed a lot of experience. Thank you for sharing your story, but I was surprised and I know it's an android application, isn't there a free gift that can be played without risk? Your friend should not be too focused on this game in the application, because the fair system is also not proven, better play in crypto casino.

That's going to be a life-changer for him. It wouldn't be recovered unless you invested in it again. I believe your neighbor will continue to gamble in the hopes of getting that "jackpot" that they want from playing slots. He needs to understand that luck isn't forced or something. It should be well-taken care of on how much they should risk. I hope he somehow understands the risk more and more and what his family has done to rescue him from his debt.

You shouldn't gamble on slots if you are risking loaned money. Not someone else's money because it will be wrong and probably give you bad luck.

It's sad that your friend leaves a heavy burden for the family with no responsibilities at all. This is an addiction that cannot be controlled.

Maybe what your friend means by playing slots is that he can recover his previous losses so that his loan can reach $9000, which is really big, especially if it burdens his family, of course, this is very ironic.

That's a gambling game if you can't manage your finances, it will get worse because it can't be regulated by it.

It's true as said above he must be in rehab to recover at least not to do this again in the future if he is in rehab.

I am not at all surprised by this story as I personally knew two people who were also reckless about gambling. They were friends and liked to play slots with a mug of beer. Very often on payday they would lose all their money at the casino. Sure, they would win big money, but most times they would come out of the casinos empty-handed. This went on for a couple of years until they got into debt.

Such stories remind us that you should never gamble with borrowed money because it is likely to end badly.

Thanks for the warning and for sharing the experience from your neighbor.

Gambling can be addictive and more when you hit a big win, but gamble with negative numbers or with debt is a terrible mistake that will make us loss all.

One of the main rules is "never chase gambling losses", and i know is hard to let them go, but is the right way to not get in a crazy debt.

In order not to chase your losses you need to play only with free money, the loss of which will not affect your budget and will not lead to any problems. If you play with money that you are afraid to lose, then losing leads to serious problems both psychological and financial. And playing with borrowed money is just crazy.

I know this game, playing this game has become popular in several Asian countries because it can be traded, this causes many players who are looking for profit or looking for additional income. but actually the game application does not allow illegal activities such as buying and selling only allowed to buy chips on the official application. Maybe the members here are no strangers to the Facebook Texas Holdem Poker game which is often traded. well this game has something in common, it's just that this game has more features including slots. speaking of gambling addiction, this is proof that anything in excess is not good. Therefore, one must convince himself not to make gambling as an escape, steady income or excessive activity, so that it will be easier to control it if one has inner guidance.

Classic case of losing self-control when it comes to gambling. If you don't have the money to gamble, just don't think about doing it. The temptation will eat at you and you will soon start to seek for ways to fill that gambling hunger. Gambling is not for everyone, obviously, and what happened to your friend is easily avoidable had he/she just distanced himself/herself to this activity.

I always wonder what make slot machines so addicting? Hell, I remembered playing game like Fallout: Last Vegas and the slot machine mini-game was also addicting too. Instead of RPG, I install a mod to remove the banning cap for slot machines in that game and keep on playing. Japan has a whole fucking industry for slot machines called pachinko which you will see row upon row​​ people sitting in front of the pachinko playing day and night.
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I think your friend has been controlled by the devil, he prioritizes lust and greed, actually he is not a reliable and professional slot player, limited to knowing from friends who won and tried again, he had been drowned by greed and the pleasure of gambling.

I think, cases like this don't only happen to slots, other games, if someone doesn't understand strategy and understanding in gambling they will also have the same fate as that experienced by your friend.

In essence, gambling has a high risk, all types of bets are almost based on luck, so considering the money used in gambling bets is very important, loans are not a good solution to place bets, use bonus money or use other income/gift money, wiser if they think about it.

that is a lot of money to waste on a gambling app that is meant for entertainment and not actual gambling. just my opinion but he would have been better off gambling with real money than wasting it on that gambling app. it is sad that this incident affected his family but it is the consequences of his action.

I guess you are from Indonesia. Yes, $9000 is a lot of money here and you can buy a house too. The stupidest thing gambling addicts do is they will run away from the debt that has trapped them and put their families in trouble. The most tormented from the incident above is their family, they have to pay the debt they never enjoyed.

It's not just loan some companies does allow people to use their credit cards online which again is not something that would provide someone with benefits perse and they end up having extremely hard time because of the problematic behavior couples up with the ease of having the credit cards, how far can one go is something that you cannot tell. Therefore I do think that it's not just the person, it's the environment as well and in that environment mose gambling companies does prove to be the biggest influencers therefore you should be careful where you are heading onto and what you are doing since this can change your whole life and your family's as well.

$9000 for a mere gambling in an android application? Darn! He must've been played by the house to go that far in losing a lot of money.
I would not spend that kind of amount in any android application, either buying the game directly, in-game purchases, or applications. There is always an option for a freebie and just spend some if you want an upgrade.
He should've known better, he could have gotten far if he used that in a real gambling site, the trusted ones.

The same happens When you take a risk even with betting or trading. This Is not related only to slot games, this kind of addiction arise with several gambling games.
Of course this Is an huge debt.... But the sad part Is that the family has to pay for It :(

Another case of someone that cannot stop his delusions about obtaining profits with gambling, he got interested in slots when his friends shared their profits with him, then he tried to replicate that success and had dreams about making a lot of money, and now he owes the equivalent of a house to the casino and his friends and his family needs to sell their assets to pay for his mistakes as he ran away, simply a deplorable story and a deplorable gambler as he ran away instead of facing his problems head on.

Anyone who does not understand about "High Domino"

To be honest, is only the game with chips. The problem, the player it self turn out the chips into a money by selling the chips to each other since the game have "transfer" system between user. Player on "higs domino" from my perspective don't even know the RTP it self of that slot.

So, it's kinda dangerous to play the slot since we don't know the actually "RTP" and did has some manipulation or not. This game quite popular in "Indonesia".

It sounds like a lack of discipline.
Once the pocket is done, it should end there. No more loans, no pawns, or whatever means to have more money to bet. That's your mind telling you to rest it. Your neighbor might have forgotten that.
I never took loans from banks again after I felt how much money was wasted thru interest. Because once you started doing it, you will keep on going back and then it becomes a habit. It's not healthy. I've been there.

Exactly, this is common issue, just to remind all of gambler especially newbie to be careful if he was doing any gambling

It's not really slots but gbling in general.  If you are taking out loans to straight gamble you will pretty much always end up like this particular person.  Even with investing in the stock market or even crypto you should never take loans out for.  Pretty much if you can't afford to lose it you shouldn't spend it.

Yeah, In our country Higgs Domino is very popular. and mostly the young people around me play Higgs Domino. Similar to gambling activities, they deposit or buy items called chips from other users. In fact, users will get bonus chips every day. If they are willing to be patient, something like the OP shared shouldn't happened. This is a serious problem, maybe I should also starting to improving my gambling activities when I lose and learn about to control. It's pretty scary when I can't control myself.

He must be really bored to burn all that money on slots. I easily get bored on slots because there is not much to be excited about it. And it is all repetitive action. Aside from the fact that if you played it on an app, there is no randomness, you cannot win on it. The game just won't let you win.

Hope he learns his lesson even though his family is the one who will suffer paying his debts.

Slots are crazy... first of all, it's not so cheap to play slots and chase for bonus rounds! Any balance can be wiped out in no time with slots, with 20-30 dead spins with some higher bet and there you go...

When I decide to play slots I consider that money lost...  of course, I hope and cheer for some nice wins, but with my experience, it's enough to say that I know my chances...

I can only guess, but this guy without any gambling experience thought he can make some quick profit... most of those stories end up badly!

Well, now the only alternative for him is to rebuild his patrimony and reputation from zero... That will take a long time and a lot of effort, but it's still possible. His family must be mad on him for the generated debt, but they will calm down within time and will be an important support for this man in order to help him recover himself from this negative experience with slots. From now on he must understand discipline and bankroll management are a must when gambling to prevent major losses which surpass the household's income and living standards. Besides being a lesson for him, it can be a lesson for his gamblers friends as well.

Slots are definitely the most garbage excuse for a game that anyone could ever play and I don't know how anyone can get joy from mindlessly hitting a button to see an artificially generated reel. If you get any sort of entertainment from such games you should seriously consider going outside and finding something else to do in the fresh air. I don't understand your first comment - his friends shared their winnings with him, which got him hooked on the idea it was possible to win long term and not a fluke by others? Why would his family have to pay off his debt? If they are getting harassed in this way, surely it's better to sell up and move away rather than pay money they do not owe personally.

Doesnt only limit out on slot games but also in other gambling games as well which it could really potentially make you addict if you arent good on controlling  yourself on dealing with it.This doesnt only talk about slots but also in others as well.If you  do find out yourself to be that impulsive towards money spending and aiming for big wins on gambling then you should really start on avoiding it as much as you could.
If you have started on taking up some loan then you should be alarmed and completely stop midway or not to make those loans to be that even more bigger.Be responsible and be mindful towards your
actions so that you wont really be fucking up yourself in the end of the line.We dont like that, do we?

Slots are indeed quite dangerous and quite risky to do especially with people who always play with emotions there.
Some people sometimes always linger with Slots and hope that there is an event that can reverse their finances that have been spent by getting the Jackpot there.
But something like this is clearly something that is difficult to happen especially in this case the slot doesn't depend on strategy or anything because it only hopes for luck.

I was once at your friend debt a couple of years ago.Slot machines can make you addicted several times faster compared to traditional sport betting and that is what happened to me.I kept losing big until one day I sat down,better lay down and stayed all night thinking what I have done and how bad this was impacting my life,I took the decision to play with calculations,like not spending more than 100 USD weekly.Since at least 9-10 months I am doing so and I have this weekly bankroll,no matter what happens to it,win or lose I don't overdo,I consider this as a side entertainment,like if I used to go every week to see a football match as that is the cost I spend for gambling.For me this have worked so far and I guess it can work for almost anyone,the only thing needed is the greatest possible determination to achieve this.

all gambling if we can't control our emotions, surely we will lose all our money and valuables to be sold just for gambling. so it's not just Slot that make us lose all our money but all types of gambling can make us lose all our possessions if we can't control our emotions.
i'm sure your neighbor can't control his emotions while playing Slot and he always imagines wanting to be like his friend who can get lucky in gambling on a large scale. so that when your neighbor plays Slot and he loses, he will definitely keep playing until he gets big luck and he is willing to do anything to get gambling capital.

so i conclude that your neighbor actually just wants to be like someone who tells him when he gets a big win from a Slot game.




but with this incident it becomes a lesson for your neighbor so that in the future when he plays Slot gambling, he does not use borrowed money and can control his emotions more when playing gambling.

Gamblers need to be careful of slots, but not only slots but all other types of gambling, including real life ones like sports. That is just the story you heard about, but I have heard of many bad news about people that become addicted to sport gambling before, one was even imprisoned, what could be more than that? We should not only focus on slot but also on other types of gambling. We should never use the amount of money we cannot afford to lose to gamble.

The family can seek advice from the authorities on what to do. It doesn't mean that the involved person runs away, the family needs to shoulder the debt not unless there was collateral. Although if the family willing to sell their property to help that person, they can do it freely.

But what happened next?

That person runs away so there's no sense for the family to shoulder the payment right away.

They need to find that person, put him in rehabilitation, and tell him that everything will be alright to lessen his stress and possible depression and that all he needs to do is to cooperate with the recovery program.

That situation really happened and that's the reality. I do hope that those who end up in that situation will still have faith that everything will be alright soon.

This guy who left his family in debt is a coward who's not worth having them. Life is long, you can easily work and return the loans. If you start running you'll be running your whole life, living in guilt, knowing your family is in trouble because of you.

I get how he got addicted, I played some of those "clash" games on my phone years ago and many people lose a lot of money on them and you aren't really getting anything back because there will always be someone who donates more and has a better setup because of it and can defeat you.

Let's change that statement into, careful with your gambling activity. It's not a good decision to take loans for any type of gambling-related purpose. Why add some risks for another risk. Feel sorry that your neighbor is now experiencing a big problem and maybe experiencing now several sleepless nights. Who can sleep properly with that problem?

If you are concerned, consider giving them some help. The family must do everything to search for that person to prevent any possible worst-case scenarios that might happen. That person maybe experiencing extreme depression right now and as days pass by, the situation is becoming more critical.

It's not the end of the world. That guy needs some big urgent help.

Does this kind of law exist somewhere (family paying for a family member's debt)?  I believe if a person has a debt his family is not responsible for paying it.  I believe there is no such law that forced families to pay for the debt of their members.  The debt collector will liquidate the estate named after that person to pay for that person's debt.  If he is your friend then you can tell his family that they are not responsible for your friend's debt.

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It is sad to think that the family always suffers when a person got addicted to gambling.  But yeah, slots are really addictive if we failed to have our self-control so I think we, slots lover should be careful in playing our loved games.  We should have a regular self-check on our gambling activities and if ever changes had observed we better adjust.

It is for the entire gambling.

Someone who's got hooked should be aware of the risk and possible effect once he's attached to it. The guy has became addicted and now, he has ran away from his obligation and passed on the burden and the problem that he's made to his family.

This is bothering and embarrassing on his part because he don't have the face to face for the debt that he's made. Story like this is common and not new because of a gambler that can't control himself and hasn't foreseen the worse happening.

I wonder what kind of convincing power this guy has that even financially struggling he managed to get a loan of $9,000.

Are his friends dumb to just let him borrow without an assurance that he will pay?
Are those banks dumb that didn't check if this person is financially stable?

But of course, taking a loan to gamble is the worst decision you will do. That should not be considered at any cost.

I think this guy owns a house and land which serve as collateral.  Or maybe there is someone acting as a guarantor for that person.  That makes me think, poor guarantor since he will take responsibility for the debt.


It is always a bad decision to play gambling with borrowed money.  It always ends in personal destruction just like what OP shared with us.

I have searched that Android game and can't believe that person you are talking to risks a big amount playing there? The reviews are horrible and mostly worst. What on earth that person is doing and trusting that worst application game?

I just hope you are not shilling that game here. Or is your story really true?

But regardless, the lesson you have shared does make sense.

You lose two things there, the money and your relationship with the person from whom you've borrowed money. Thanks, OP for sharing this story, it's a lesson learned not just for that guy but also for those that have thought of the same thing to do.
Also, choose your friends wisely and understands that when someone is about to get addicted, they'll have the initiative to stop them although it's not their responsibility but at least, they show care to the one that's about to lose control.

I feel bad for your friend family inheriting the debt and forced to sell their land to pay off the debt. You friend is very irresponsible starting on the time he borrowed money to fulfill his gambling lifestyle. There are many games out there and slot is a pretty bad game, I don't play slot games unless it's free because of the chances it's rigged and hard to verify. All of the fault can be blamed to your friend because of how his bad decision making affects his relatives and friends.

When you're taking a loan to play in a casino you are considered a compulsive gambler without thinking about the consequence of your action, you are in quicksilver where your every action you are sinking deep, that is why on land-based casinos we see a lot of loan shark because gamblers are known to always say yes when offered a loan to gamble, your friend's situation is very bad you have to reach out to him and help him get professional help, he might do this again and again until he becomes very desperate and resorts to stealing or scamming people.

Most gamblers fail to realize that by gambling, it is not considered as a way to earn alternative cash. When we put slots in the picture where the odds are either 1-5000; or 1-34 million, you will see that earning cash in this process is absolutely risky- to the point that you would burn money more in the process despite winning the jackpot.

Your neighbor sets the greatest example of the risks associated with slot machines. Though it may definitely look appealing and fun especially that they introduced some mechanics, the chances of winning are so marginally thin that you would most likely spend more even if you won in the process.

You title and post made it sound like only those who play with slots end up being broke like him. In general, this is what uncontrolled gambling can do to you. No matter what you play - slots, blakjack, dice, or poker, you might end up losing everything and be in serious debt if you keep on taking loans to gamble and pay for your losses.

Just wondering, why would their "family" need to pay all his debts?

This is the worst stage of an addict....
After already losing everything she has, she ends up taking on debt to maintain her addiction.
Anyone in their right mind knows that it is very difficult to pay off a debt from gambling.
Result... you ruin your whole life and your family's as well.
A sad case, but it is still a harsh reality that needs to be exposed in order to make other people aware to seek help before they reach this lethal stage.
Thanks for sharing this story.

Why would the family pay for him when he is the one who took the loan and credits ? sorry but I don't understand what is happening here,
Maybe the one who is looking for the payment should go directly to the police and look for Him instead of  disturbing the family because they are not the one who gamble the money.
and this is not about SLOT gambling , instead this is the attitude and behavior in which cannot control their addiction and desire to earn instantly.

That's the danger if we borrow money from other people because we don't know whether we can pay it back or not.
If we can't pay it back, our family could get the consequences and possibly all our belongings will be taken away.
If we can be responsible for playing gambling and don't involve other people, especially families, maybe we can continue playing gambling.
But it would be better if we stop gambling before things worsen and make our families suffer the consequences.

This kind of slot games are trending in most of asian country,so it's no wonder many people play it.With such hype,it's increasing the gambling problem in that country,even though they know excessive gambling is bad,they still played it because many other people play it too.So for some people it's hard to think the consequences because of the herd mentality.

That's the addiction damages he is currently facing and it has been discussed, adviced many times that play with your own money which he didn't follow as he has debt over him and that also worth $9k for wagering on slots only? That's unbelievable that how people could go this beyond that they can't see how much they are losing and self control and stop limits is must in gambling.Play in your mood and don't follow others as luck matters even if you play same slot others have got huge jackpot on.

Your friend has an addiction, and probably if he hadn't fallen into that one he would have fallen into another, but slots are very addictive, yes, as well as very profitable for the owners.


That is the problem. You should never borrow money to gamble, but you think the OP's friend doesn't know that? It's a self-control problem as you say. In the minuscule hope of recouping their losses they end up making the hole bigger.

I think you're not the only one who experienced such a thing in slots games sir, but in my discovery you shouldn't play slots games every day, then your rolling bet should be my limit, because that's what I'm doing I set qu of 50 rounds betting on to bet on the amount of low betting just then win beat stop I and look for another kind of games or stop and go back another day again. This is what I do with self -control as a player in a gamble.

Slots are the worst idea to spend so much money on, much less manage to take on debt. I don't understand how some people manage to go to such extremes and ruin their lives and those of their families. I'd rather drink the money away with attractive women in a restaurant and have a good time.

I have the same opinion, but I prefer not to drink too much, just a couple of glasses or three at the most while eating, so that I can perform optimally after the meal with the attractive woman.

 ;)

But you have to think that people like the case the OP describes are people who have self-control problems, and basically what they do with those behaviors is self-destruct. It's hard to understand these behaviors if you've never had them or don't know someone who has had them.

Instead of being "careful with slots" people should get educated with slots and gambling in general. Lots of people in my slots 101 thread have played for years without serious problem and I'm pretty sure they won't get into trouble. That's because they are "educated."

Spending $9,000 for IDR play is crazy, even I won't dare to do that. I don't think I've lost that much money either from years of slotting activity. If only for fun, and not trying to get rich while most likely go broke, IDR 200 play is safe as long as you play at a reputable casino.

I know these types of games from advertisements when using free applications on android, the ads are quite tempting especially for those who don't understand the risks of playing slots, even I have seen advertisements or maybe a vlog content about the dangers of playing slots from owning a car worth more than $100,000 to finally becoming bankrupt due to slot addiction.
Borrowing money for an activity that you think can earn to double is foolish not only when it comes to gambling but also other things like trading, only use the money you can afford to lose and if you can achieve big things from gambling it's a pleasure but don't chase it.

looks like the man borrowed from moneylenders so his family is also affected. I always warn people to stay away from moneylenders

There are also many gambling owners here who actually make traps on the players, those who run out of capital are usually forced to make loans to moneylenders

obviously the man borrowed money from moneylenders so that the family must bear all the burden of the debt. Borrowing money to gamble is not recommended, the effect of severe addiction on gambling makes a person lose his rational thinking, most cases like this are due to the ambition to chase after the losses suffered, this is why I say lose the rational mind.


not entirely true, maybe you are playing at the wrong casino which does not meet the standards of good reputation.

I wouldn’t just blame the slot game. We always utter you should first learn and control your self. His big problem was addicted to gambling. From where he could not get out. He should have thought about taking a break for a while as he was losing again and again. When someone panics in gambling, there is no more work in their brain. Another thing one his big mistake was that he should not have taken a bank loan in any way when he lost cash his cash money.

I fail to play for fun, and prefer to play to win, but it's all just a dream, haha. Now I've used the rest of the money i have to play slots yesterday, and all is gone now

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really lost control lately, maybe this time will be the real time for rest from slots, until I'm ready to go back to playing like before just for fun, once a week, not every day as what i'm doing last few weeks  :P

Agree with what you say here but indeed sometimes Slots can forget about time which is indeed very difficult to deny, especially if we see that when talking about slots in IDR or in Indonesia today there are lots of people who always do Liverstream on several social media which making a lot of people provoked to do the same thing in large numbers but actually this is what worries me because people don't know that they are not aware or are too naive that the people who do the livestream are actually getting paid to do this.

Thats how thing works on which marketing and at the same time someone do really make out some profits or income on just simply playing or trying to be followed by people or hooking up potential players.
Playing slots on physical phase is something more interesting than on playing through online if we do based up with actual experience and engagement but of course it is really just on the same concept.
Doesnt matter which one you are engage or dealing with but the chances of losing is almost identical so its always suggested on playing for fun and not for making big wins but we cant really deny
that hopes of hitting big or jackpot is really there on every spin whether online or offline then it is really just normal.

I fully agree a gambler should learn responsible gambling instead of being warry of gambling games.


but sadly that guy isn't you.  This also reminds me of some news way back in 2018.  The guy involved do a much worst thing than the person OP mentioned.  Did you remember the news about a gambler selling his wife and daughter?  You can reread that news here: Gambler sold his wife, minor daughter; family rescued by officials (https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/gambler-sold-his-wife-minor-daughter-family-rescued-by-officials-1272893-2018-06-29).

The property is not served as collateral since the family will attempt to sell it to pay the loan of that user. And to have a loan, a guarantor is not enough as we are talking about an overall $9,000 loan here. In most cases, even if the lender has complete requirements, it's even hard to borrow at least $1,000 from the bank. Or if let's say that was easy, how still that person manages to get a total $9,000 loan (or let's say 50-50 as the other half is thru a loan by his friends which I found still impossible) as before taking a reloan, a certain amount should be paid first.

Taking a loan at multiple or several banks is not possible too as there's a background check and they are strict on the approval if there's an ongoing loan to other banks. Using other names is a bit of a hassle too and I doubt the OP will do it.

OP might just invent this story but the main point of that story is true.

if you got addicted to that kind of activity, you will negatively influence way more people than being a gambling addict.  First, if you got drunk, you can cause trouble in your surroundings.  Second, if you laid too many women, there will be a huge possibility that you will have lots of illegitimate kids.  Worst, you may tend to rob someone else because of your addiction to such activity.  That kind of addiction is worst than being a gambling addict.  At least a gambling addict, his mind isn't intoxicated by foreign chemicals.

These are not real friends they show him winnings coming from slots but they did not explain the risk involved, if you hate someone, teach him how to gamble and the amount you can win without explaining the bad side of it, his friends must have hated that guy



Not only slots it applies to everything that involves betting because you'll also get the same results from betting on other games in the casino, you will end up losing.

If you're taking a loan to gamble that's a sure sign that you are hooked on gambling and you are a compulsive gambler, if you knew that gambling is for fun and the risk of losing everything in gambling is high you will not even think of taking a loan just to gamble.

A matured gambler allocates time and money to their gambling activity, you only take a loan if you are putting up a business although there is a risk the risk is very minimal compared to if you are gambling it away, or if you are in an emergency situation, taking a loan to gamble is a big no, you will be in a miserable situation if you do this.

^ But I rather choose none of the above, addiction in gambling or addiction in intoxicated foreign chemicals.
In the first place, we should control ourselves in everything because excessive use is detrimental to our health or it will become worst that make our lives ruined. Slot activity is good and possibly profitable for me, probably I can able to control myself from addiction and that is why I am still playing on that kind of games.

Sorry to hear that, but this is a very high risk and I personally will never take this risks whatever the codnition.
Btw, this may be because he doesn't know exactly how slots work. Betting in slot is likely more to luck and something else, there is no guarantee of winning in slots. We may have small skills but we don't know whether we really want to win or not in slots, moreover of whether we are new to gambling in slots. This is too risky. He may be very stress and depression rght now.
I cannot blame him for this codnition,but this is too high risky activity.
This can be a biglesson for us with his experince to eb ale to careful adn wiser enough when playing slots or other gambling actvties.

There will be really a time that a person should experience a painful thing before they will learn.

It's hard to be in the right mind if the person is dealing with a big loan problem because of their gambling addiction. We are fortunate that we are still responsible for being regular gamblers but other people don't have that behavior.

The problem is already there and I just hope that person who is dealing with a $9,000 loan and runs away will found a way to help himself.

I also hope that his family and friends are doing their best to reach out to that person as he badly needed big help from anyone.

Or we can say that in hope or replaceable word here is greed to win seeing others they think they can also have the same wins but are not lucky enough and end up bad.They see others wagering high and having more win and in same lore they also take loans without self realisation and fall in debt trap which ends up bad for them.So it's dependant on ourselves that how we control our emotions and play wisely.

Loan to gamble? That is foolishness. I have known people that were addicted, they use big amount of money to gamble but they lost it all. Some people will go to the extent of selling what they have and use the money to gamble. I have used borrowed money also to gamble before until I later knew I was foolish, but not again. Just that gambling can deceive some people to think they can use it to make money but which is not true.

I agree.It is entirely dependent on our ego,greed that makes us do silly things.When we think calmly cold headed we soon realize that gambling is created to be favorable to the gambling house,and the house edge is just there to make sure this happens.Taking loans to beat the house edge which happens extremely rarely is not the best thing to do,the problem is that most people act hot headed,they don't think thoroughly what that action will bring as consequences,if they did,we would see far more little addiction and borrowing money to gamble.

In this case, this is indeed a function of marketing like that but on the other hand I am quite sorry to see viewers of Livestreaming marketing like this who think this is the right thing to happen because of the fact that they are quite naive if they believe it is true.
On the other hand I also realize that the hope of hitting big or the jackpot really exists in every spin and I also feel that way but when it comes to talking about large nominals, this must also be limited and game enthusiasts must know the limits in playing.

You are lucky enough to break the habit of borrowing to gamble. Most people around me do the same, it's like they expect more wins. There are many cases, especially when there is an election, where I live, some of gamble use their house for betting if there no cash. As for slots, I haven't found a case like this, but I don't know either. Because I also very rarely hang out with people around me.

The problem with the gambler stated by OP, he just runs away and escapes while leaving his family all the troubles.  I hate this kind of person who does not take responsibility for his mistakes.



Yeah, I agree with you, I am glad we are able to control ourselves.  I think it also has something to do with how our parents raised us besides having a more rational mind.


Or if that person doesn't change, I hope he learns his lesson soon. 

I thought you were going to talk about privacy when gambling but anyway this case wasn't only specific for slots but we better say gambling in general. Slot games are known to have a high house edge but even on those lower house edge games, winning on them is still hard and we can surely end up in a debt if we keep on grinding on them only to recover our loss or in hopes of earning more money.

In your story, it says his other friend game him money and it started there. It reminds me when the site that I am playing with give's me a bonus. I then gamble, lose it and end up depositing my own money and then lose it as well but I am lucky that I still have a control for myself and never attempted to borrow money to play again.

True that, it is better to have self-discipline and missed out on a moment of happiness than indulge in it and give a negative impact on my family and friends.  Just like what the guy OP told us.  I just so hope that he can get the courage to face his wrongdoings and be responsible.  I feel sorry for his family that has to carry the burden of that gambling addict person who ran away.

Well this is the factor why gamblers turned into addiction --because they don't have self-discipline, they can even manage themselves.
If we gamble -- putting a limit on ourselves is the best practice not even on gambling, all things become over and will have a bad effect on us. The slot is very addictive game because it can make a quick profit without too much effort, there is no skills require and most of all, you only rely on the house edge which is it is impossible to win in the long run.

For now, we should not put a heavy and big pressure on that person since I can't imagined what he's going through right now.

Instead, give him some help as they really need it right now. Sometimes, the people around that person should provide some help automatically without waiting for that person to reached them. After they able to give that person a good treatment and let's say it's about month now of recovery period, they can now worked together on finding a solution to the mess he created.

There is always a solution on a big problem.

Why only for slot? It does apply for all kind of gambling games, as long as you cant control yourself, addiction is waiting for you to damage your life. I'm not really sure why recently there are some threads which sounds like against Slot games too much while in fact there are many other cases in other gambling games. The story of your friend is basically very common thing when it comes to gambling. It is due to the lack of self control from the gamblers.

No need to blame the slots its actually wonderful when we are playing within the limits because its a kind of game with unlimited different combination so its great fun to play even we can play without the real money so the obsession is with the money making not really the slot game. How banks gave loan to someone for gambling or just did with the personal loan?...

How can you lose so much money in slot machines? He must have spent so many hours playing slots to get to such a loss. The return-to-player ratio of slot machines is between 95-98%. That means he must gambled over the time worth 180,000 USD to achieve 5% losses worth 9,000 USD. That is some insane numbers. Every time I gamble I play it's only for a few bucks, so when I win or lose its a few dollars. I have never heard of the android games Higgis Domino, is it a casino? To be honest with such kind of large numbers it sounds more like he got scammed than played legit slot games. He should check where he lost all that money and verify it were legit games in a real casino. Otherwise he can go to the police and might be able to get some of his money back. Of course the biggest mistake is to take out loans and gamble with it.

You cannot really blame any kind of game in the gambling industry as the irresponsibility of the gambler is the main cause why this kind of situation happens. Unfortunately, most of the addictive games are the easiest ones such as slots and dice. Without any control in the gamblers funds, they will surely be in debt when they keep on losing as they won't know when to stop. In regards with the loan with the bank, he probably make up something that is not related to gambling for his loan to approve. As much as I know, his family should not be burden on paying those debts however if their property is under the loaner then the bank will entitled to it to repay the loan.

I felt sorry for your friend. But what happened to him somehow was his own doing. Responsible gamblers knew their limitations even before betting. They have their own allocated budget for it. Or they set their time spent in gambling.   

Or are we going to include in our school curriculum how to bet responsibly? With the internet everywhere, gambling online is becoming too accessible except in some countries that are very strict with their betting regulations; land-based and online.

Things like this , not just only slot but also related to gambling, people need to understand that the risk that is involve in it is very high. It is always important that people need to play with an amount of money that even if they loss it won't be a problem,  let it be an amount that one can afford to loss. Playing slot or gambling with huge amount or a borrowed money is very risky.

So the person isn't having control over their activities but here the blame comes totally over the platform not the person who did this. But gambling platforms also encouraging users to take break and be socially responsible also provide exclusion features but in reality nothing can stop them unless the person wants to. About the loan yes the family shouldn't be responsible for repaying but if the debt comes from their relatives circle not from the financial institutions then they have to pay it back.

As far as I can see, there is no problem in slot games whom you say on this topic, where your friend was stuck in debt, that in the end, his family is now paying for this debt left by your friend. The very reason why you got into big debt is because your friend got addicted until he became so greedy here that he shouldn’t have been like that. Instead of being careful, it is better to avoid this type of gambling game so as not to lead to a situation like this. Because we know from the beginning that gambling does not bring any good to a player's once addiction enter to the gamblers.

This is really bad bro, I feel bad for his family who has nothing to do with his selfishness. That's why this community always warned users to play only with the money they can afford to lose because when something like this happened, there's nothing you can do but run and hide because it is really impossible to pay all of that money in just a short time because it will take years for that money to earn and it only took a whole night for it to lose for the one who doesn't care for their families.

In general, it is quite surprising that an adult (since he has a family and colleagues) was not aware of the dangers of gambling and so stupidly lost all the money. And I would also note that it is unclear why the OP warns about the dangers of slots - in fact they are no different from other gambling games.

Gamblers needs to be careful in the way they play gambling,  when gambling is not done properly it won't only affect the person who play the but is love ones will also be affected.  Like if a gambling spend all he has  on gambling and the person end up to be at lose ,if anything happens to him maybe suicide the family will also be affected because they will lose a loved one.

this is the reason why we should not trust 100% of anything about the results of gambling that are spread on the internet even if friends share them. if this news (the defeat and the debt he caused) has reached the family's ears then the problem will be complicated, and that person will most likely be expelled from the family. if you have really run out of capital for gambling then stop, for now, don't make a loan to gamble.

In fact, slots differ from other games of chance in that they are short-lived. All those fast-changing pictures have a powerful effect on the psyche, making the brain think differently than usual. For example, playing poker or betting on sports makes a person think and make some decisions, but slots just take your money in seconds, so you have to borrow money to try and recoup your losses.  But that's if you have an addiction of course.

A loan will always be a bad loan if you are going to use it for something that will not give you a guaranteed return, and using it to bet on any gambling games is the surest way to waste your loan if you got it from a lending company like banks and they found out that you wasted it in gambling you're going to be in trouble, even if you loan it to a friend or relative they are going to hate you for doing this because they knew they will have a hard time getting what you loan back.
Gambling and loan is such a bad combination.

Basically they are people who are new to gambling who hope they will hit the jackpot after having a lot of money from a loan, even though when they have a lot of money it will make their greed uncontrollable. Therefore, there is a saying that gambling is only for people who have a lot of money, whereas in reality this is not the case. Gambling is about fun so that when gambling at least the players can control, if they gamble to get the jackpot then it is a very serious mistake.

Slot games are very easy to play but can make people addicted and even become acute addicts, and indeed the case mentioned by the OP is no different from other gambling, it's just that slots can be addictive because of the ease of playing them.
I often hear stories about slot addiction in my area and most of them are teenagers and in various cases besides loans there are also those who sell their valuables, some even commit theft or crime just to get money to play slots. and it's really real, and the word slot is also famous for people who don't understand gambling because of the various cases that occur.

Maybe gambling is the only thing that makes them happy? There are people that are happy on other things and they can also take a loan only to enhance their experience. That is not different from the people that take's out a loan only to have a sufficient fund for gambling. It's not bad to take a loan as long as you still have a source of income to get money and to pay that loan. In our place, there was a woman here that likes to borrow money from our neighbourhood and even to us she also borrowed money.

This is different from the loans that she take on a lending company but despite all of that, she can be able to pay all of it because she had her job at the government and she have a daughter working abroad providing here some cash assistance.

a gambler does not have shame even though it loses it will still come for next time so what we are supposed to do as a gambler is 2 make gambling with precaution and the proper care so that we want to be able to lose whatever thing you have in gambling we know that there's so many people use gambling as point of generating fund and that is what makes them to be addicted to gambling so with that alone I have to play gamble with reasons and with your spare money not really your budget money because gambling is a risk which can be profitable to you and also not to be profitable because I can't predict and their prediction becomes accurate.

Guys if you are dedicated to playing slots you might want to:

• First seek for slot games which offers the biggest RTP

. Example of slot games that shows users the RTP of their game in plain view is bitvest.io slots.

• Another would be to seek slots that have bonus game or free spins as these is where most winners get their profit.

I do not guarantee that by doing this 2, that you will win.

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Slot games are addictive, so play with moderation.

Others lack discipline and self-control that's why they fall into gambling addiction. Slots won't be that dangerous if only we know our limits. Hearing our friend's winning stories should not lead us to greed because not everyone can be lucky in it. It shouldn't be slots that we should be careful about but be unable to control our greed to win on it. It could attract us to play multiple times because of the possible winnings but we should also be mindful of its risks.

In this case, especially in real slots, regardless of whether it is a new or old gambler, everything will remain the same if he does not control his emotions in gambling.
Slot users clearly know that apart from a fairly simple game, they are also presented with some eye-catching visuals, but on the other hand, they don't actually realize that this is what traps them.

If you look at what the op is talking about, it is a common occurrence in almost all games. These predictions most commonly occur in sportsbooks where some of these sure gamers/predictions offer a number to stake and guarantee that the result will be in the player's favour. It is not because the player is addicted, rather, it is possible that they showed him previous games they had won and winnings they had cashed out in the past and convinced him to stake a large sum of money. The majority of the men that provide this even baffle me how they keep tricking players into subscribing to their VIP shit advice and predictions.

How you can put the blame over the platform if it serves it's purpose in the first place. The person got addicted which in return loss all his money and even defaulted his loan. Slot Machine or even the casino does not care or will interrupt any personal matter from it's clients and users as those are not from their discretion. You can't blame the game if you get addicted to it, you lost control then it's your problem not the gambling platform. Also, whether or not the loan is from a relative, it is not his family's burden to pay for it since they were not the one who owes it. However, they may lose the trust and received a bad image from their relative in case they defaulted it. On the other hand, they are still relative and they'll probably understand if they won't be able to pay off their debt.

It is because slots is very addictive gambling game.  Research and even a thread in this forum tackle why slots are the most addicting gambling games.  So OP reminded us to be careful and keep our self in check whenever we are playing slots game.  I bet his friends got hooked on one of the slots games on that application which lead his friend to owe a huge debt.


Sadly not all gamblers are aware of this thing, or even if they are aware of it, the just ignore it.

these days i wonder how there are guys who like slot games so much and what is so special about slot games? I see people say they put in less than 100$ and spent hours playing these slot games and won thousands of dollars, and I wonder: how do they do it? because slot games have no strategy, it's something that involves luck, so why are so many people putting money into a game that depends on luck? about your case, well this is something normal, which has been happening a lot

Worst stories have happened, there is no exit if the gambler is on dangerous addiction period. Friends have to help him psychologically and financially because of potential suicide case may happen. He run away because of pressure by society, someone has to pay what he owes. Don't ever get addicted on slot games especially if you can't afford to lose.

Its addicting because of the way we play slots machine, many are getting addict because of that game and I agree that you should avoid gambling if you can’t afford to lose and don’t have the spare money to gamble. I have friends that are into gambling as well, good thing is he recovers from his addiction and now still on a process of recovering. If you have friends in trouble, better to help them as much as possible.

I am one of those slots lover guys.  I just find slot games amusing, easy to access, and can play with a minimum amount of money.  I believe every person has a preference so those who are not into slots won't understand people who are hooked on it,  the same way why some people can't comprehend people being hooked on sports betting.



As you said it is a matter of luck and those who don't believe in luck think, it is a matter of chance.  We bet and spin, the rails move, and we wait for the chance to hit scatter for free spins, and when lucky can have a maximum win with a minimum bet just like this one:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249415.msg60523680#msg60523680

These are the exact mistakes.
First, he is doing something that he exactly does n't know, only triggered by his friend's situation of winning. He may dream of being likely his friend to win much, but truly, he is not aware that he has lost much more than what he can affrod actually. Moreover, he is addicted, this is much worse again with this situation. Slot is something very risky moreover if we don't really know the strategy and how slots in a casino work.
Afetr being addicted, the enxt fault is taking loans for gambling again and this elad another losses. This is too bad. Not for blaming him, but I feel so pity of him, expecting big wins but reality is losing more than he can afford.
The best way right now is to stop gambling, working to pay the loans. because if he is still willing to win slots to pay the loans, it may never happen.
Hoepfully he is aware and can get the ebst solution and solve the probelms. And, he can learn from his mistakes, be wiser man and not greedy at all.
This story can reallt teach us many things, we can take lesson from this seriously

What is so special about slot games? Words are not enough to explain it to you bro. :)

I'm a pure sports bettor but addicted to playing slot games in some cases. Why? You need to try for yourselves. It's not just about luck but the experience of thrill especially if you trigger the multiplier. Of course, be responsible and learn to stop the moment you hit that.

I'm a fan of buy-in anyway as I'm tired of manual spins.

Once you hit an unbelieveable jackpot .. you will never ever to have an easy way to move on.

It's in your head all the time ... thinking that you can do it again in the next try ... but instead getting the 100x or 5000x jackpot ... people got died trying in the proccess , that's a deadly addicting slot games , you are lured by a huge winning but forgot that the chance are very tiny as well for you to get the second time huge winning. That's how you getting the debt addicting to these slot games.

It is just a financial advice not to borrow money to gamble and normally it should be seen as inappropriate as well. Only one thing can make people borrow money to gamble, it is because of addiction. If anyone is not addicted to gambling, borrowing money to gamble will not even come to anyone's mind. Even if you are able to pay back the money, why not just wait to put like 2% of your weekly income on gambling instead, rather than the adrenaline rush of borrowing money. Anyone that borrows to gamble will mostly all the time not even have money in his bank account or wallet because he would have used it to gamble.

Yes but if there were no such prizes like unbelievable jackpots or huge multipliers most people would not get back into gambling.It is that adrenaline that keep us going back and it is that we need to use our patience and self control skills to tame little by little every time until we can reach to a point in where we are in control,if we don't like playing anymore we quit and do not surrender to that urge to keep playing because we may think that the big multiplier is right behind the corner,that is the wrong thing to do.

Most people also like slot gambling because they think that it is of no importance the amount of money they have lost as long as they manage to hit the progressive jackpot (I am not talking about the maximum payline of the slot) and that is a life changing event for most of us.

I personally believe that the loan can be taken only in some cases - it is improvement of living conditions, business expansion or tuition fees. Everything else can be purchased by saving money. Gambling on borrowed money is reckless as to spend money on entertainment which you have not earned it seems to me at least a stupid idea.

Rather than slot activity everyone should be careful with their uncontrolled and undisciplined gambling activity. No matter how often I say it, people still lose all their money. And why? Because they gambled money which they should not have touched in the first place.

The disciplined gambling version would be to make a strategy before gambling and decide on the maximum amount of money you are willing to lose/win before walking away from the gambling table.

If you do not have a plan you just gamble and gamble until everything is gone. Worst case, its all gone very fast because you became emotional and risked it all in a moment of psychological weakness.

Slot game is a luck-based game which means that you should know before even playing that the odds won't always be in your favor. This game is mostly inclined to the side of the house, hence, it's not really surprising that most people who play it are losing money over it. Most especially those people who don't have set limitations and boundaries for themselves in playing and risking. No wonder there are many people who have pile of debts.

I agree that control is a must. Self-discipline and restraint is really essential so that you won't lose more than what you can afford. After all, money is hard to earn nowadays so people must really practice being a responsible player.

Well, right. If it has triggered the multiplier that's where the main thrill is. Adrenaline that will make my heart beat faster when it get 500x feels like being slapped by a pile of fiat, that's how I feel when gambling slots. Also I often say rude when playing slots, when the multiplier comes out but is not caught.
I'm sure you just want the thrill with doing a buy-in, I'm not interested in being with a buy-in because the manual is more reliable, but I understand that different people have different ways.

This is what ends up getting people in trouble, they begin to gamble but they do so without any kind of plan or limits that can prevent them from losing a great deal of money and to get addicted, and while there are people that can avoid those two outcomes without a plan because they have a very strong will, there is a lot people that do not have that characteristic and as such they get into trouble very quickly when they gamble and then they get desperate about all the money that they had lost already and begin to chase their losses, which is probably the worst thing that you can do when you gamble.

Fortunately, I don't have gambling addicted friends so I don't feel like helping them will restrict their few hours excitement anyways🙂
Addiction is bad in any field, especially gambling can be dangerous if you have no financial stability on your life. Playing for fun and trying to make money with gambling are two different things, pro gamblers know when it is time to leave. Losing your bankroll and stopping when fun stops are crucial to leave table or casino website,  no doubt.

There's always high risk if you focus on playing slot games because you know in the long run, you will only lose a lot and win just a very small amount. That's the sad reality in gambling especially if you get hooked with luck based games, the house will always have an advantage so most likely you will never win but only make huge losses in slot machines. However, its fine to play slot machines just for fun, but never play with it if you think you find yourself hard to control.

Your decision to stop playing is very crucial, this is where most of the gambler failed because they become more greed until they lose all the winnings and become broke on that day. Slots game are very easy to play, this is the fastest way to burn your money, its addicting if you don’t control yourself so better not to be complacent and just focus on your strategy every time you gamble. I have a friend who recovers as well, its good to see them back in real life.

Honestly, in terms of reliability and chances of winning, I don't see any difference between the manual mode and buy-in. The risk is there are both.

It's just that, and I already mentioned it, I'm tired of doing manual spins and even using the auto-bet won't make me feel thrilled and excited. By buy-in, there's already an automatic free spin and my instinct always tells me that, this is it. Of course, there are losing experiences but I really prefer to buy in because that's where I always hit good multipliers.

Tip: Choose slots that have a buy-in feature where it gives more free spins and good multipliers. Not saying it will increase the chances of your winning but we do like more free spins right? I literally end up checking different slots, trying their buy-in, to feel the experience, before choosing that slot game.

Anyways, this is regardless of the game provider.