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Title: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 14, 2022, 10:36:12 PM
Alik Bakhshi
After Putin
 
"In a time of universal lies to speak the truth
    is extremism"
                             J. Orwell
     
   There are undeniable truths known from the vast historical experience of Human civilization:
 - The future is always based on the past.
 - development is not conceivable without changes, and there are reasons for all changes.

    In this regard, as history shows, every empire comes to an end. The Persian and Roman empires seemed to be eternal, but they also disappeared, like all subsequent ones, and the reason for this was primarily internal social problems. The time has come for the end of the Russian Empire as well; by the end of the 20th century, the patchwork empire partially collapsed into 14 states without any external influence due to the large number of neglected internal serious problems created by the erroneous ideology of Communism combined with authoritarianism. The defeat of the Soviet Union in the Cold War clearly demonstrated the viciousness of the communist ideology and the corresponding economic system. Blaming the West for the collapse of the USSR, which Putin is trying to instill into the Russian people, is groundless and naive. I want to note a very important detail - unlike all previous formations, slavery, feudalism, capitalism, communism was introduced by coercion and was of an experimental nature. That is, at first an ideology was created, and then under this ideology they tried to build a new social system, which ended in complete collapse. In general, any human intervention in Nature, and humanity is a part of Nature, always subsequently turned out to be a mistake. In this regard, the strong-willed decision of the Russian Young Democrats to establish Democracy in Russia ended in failure.
    Yes, the need for a transition to democratic principles was evident, however, the Russian people, due to their mentality and having no experience of living in freedom, turned out to be helpless like an elephant on ice. Democracy is a good thing, but not all peoples are able to use democratic values ​​to the same extent. (1) We must also take into account the imperial worldview of the Russian people, which excludes the normal functioning of democratic laws. Empire and Democracy are incompatible things.(2) It seems that Putin, whose patriotism is over the top, understood this well, and therefore called the state system of Russia sovereign democracy, that is, democracy for the sovereign, in other words, a monarchy, which is most suitable for the empire. (3)

   The Fuhrer of the Russian spill, who imagined himself a great historian, whose scientific delights I decided to use, in the article “Jews and Russians are one people” (4), headed for the restoration of the Russian Empire within the borders of the USSR, ignoring such a historical fact that every empire has his end, and began with the capture of Ukraine. The Kremlin strategist clearly did not expect a collective reaction from the West, however belated, to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The transfer of modern weapons to the Ukrainian army, combined with economic sanctions, will certainly not only stop the aggressor, but also inflict a defeat that is like death for Putin. The Russian Fuhrer and his clique cannot avoid an international tribunal for crimes, of which quite a few have accumulated over 30 years in the Kremlin. The emerging military situation is reminiscent of the circumstances of the defeat of the Russian army in the Crimean War of 1853-1856, when, due to technical backwardness in armament, Russia surrendered Sevastopol and admitted defeat to a coalition of England, France and Turkey. Since then, for some reason, the surrender of the main naval base of Sevastopol by the Russians has been considered a military feat of Russian weapons. By the way, in honor of this victory in Paris, one of the streets was named Sevastopol Boulevard.

     Putin's Russia is reminiscent of the situation of a drowning in a bog, when every gesture only brings inevitable death closer, and this time there is hardly a wise guy holding out a saving hand. If in the 90s the West, having made a mistake, economically helped Russia to rise, today, after the defeat of Russia, no help will save the empire, which will crumble like a house of cards.

 

     In the article “When the donkey dies” (5), back in 2005, I predicted the end of the Russian Empire. The empire will shrink to its original borders and its first president after Putin will be the first president of Muscovy. (6)

1. To the question of Democracy. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/57393.html
2. Back to the empire, or the restoration of historical justice according to Putin. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/22792.html
3. Empire democracy is contraindicated. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/23826.html
4. Jews and Russians are one people. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/71168.html
5. When the donkey dies. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/3702.html
6. The first president after Putin will be the first president of Muscovy. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/83920.html

07/13/2022


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: BADecker on July 15, 2022, 05:09:28 AM
Putin is so good that there just might not be any after Putin.

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Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 15, 2022, 08:07:13 AM
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Alik Bakhshi

When are you going to die, I thought I wouldn't see you in a few years.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 15, 2022, 10:13:54 AM
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Alik Bakhshi

When are you going to die, I thought I wouldn't see you in a few years.

That's right, you won't be able to see me.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 15, 2022, 06:28:45 PM
After the defeat of the Russians in Afghanistan, where they came with the war, the Soviet Union collapsed. After the defeat of the Russians in Ukraine, Russia will crumble.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 16, 2022, 08:15:52 AM
the Soviet Union

The USSR was in Afghanistan, along with Azerbaijan, and they lived well there. Unlike the U.S. government installed in Afghanistan.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 16, 2022, 10:17:34 AM
the Soviet Union

The USSR was in Afghanistan, along with Azerbaijan, and they lived well there. Unlike the U.S. government installed in Afghanistan.
Did Azerbaijan live well in Afghanistan? This is beyond my understanding!


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 16, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
How many years did the Afghan government survive without the USSR?


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 16, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
the Soviet Union

The USSR was in Afghanistan, along with Azerbaijan, and they lived well there. Unlike the U.S. government installed in Afghanistan.
Did Azerbaijan live well in Afghanistan? This is beyond my understanding!


   Surrenders, the answer to wait in vain.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 16, 2022, 11:52:36 AM
Ask any Afghan how they lived with the Soviets. Although I doubt you've ever seen an Afghan in person.

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This is beyond my understanding!
Don't use the google translator.

Azerbaijanis were among the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. And the Afghans were living well at that time.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Kavelj22 on July 16, 2022, 09:09:59 PM
Azerbaijanis were among the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. And the Afghans were living well at that time.

Sorry! What do you mean specifically that the Afghans were in good shape during the Soviet invasion? Azerbaijan was (and still is) a Russian colony supported by Russia to this day in the face of Armenia (another image of the Cold War). I did not understand what you mean that the Afghans were good when the people of Azerbaijan were in the ranks of the Soviet army.
Sorry again if I misunderstood you.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 17, 2022, 05:14:51 AM
Azerbaijanis were among the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. And the Afghans were living well at that time.

Sorry! What do you mean specifically that the Afghans were in good shape during the Soviet invasion? Azerbaijan was (and still is) a Russian colony supported by Russia to this day in the face of Armenia (another image of the Cold War). I did not understand what you mean that the Afghans were good when the people of Azerbaijan were in the ranks of the Soviet army.
Sorry again if I misunderstood you.

  You see, my opponent VKcams. does not want to take into account that the order to invade Afghanistan came from Moscow and not from Baku. And those are two big differences. The opponent wants to blame the Azerbaijanis, Georgians, Kazakhs and other colonial peoples for the evil that the Russians brought to the land of Afghanistan and started with a diversion by attacking the courtyard of the President of Afghanistan and killing him and his family. And now he is looking for guilt for the evil done in the Azerbaijanis.
It is good that today Azerbaijan is not part of the Russian Empire, otherwise it would accuse the Azerbaijanis of attacking Ukraine.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 17, 2022, 08:39:47 AM
the order to invade Afghanistan came from Moscow and not from Baku.

And in Moscow was the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Where Azerbaijanis were present, just as they were present in the troops.

And Brezhnev himself was born in Kamenskoye, Ukraine.

So your fabrications about Russians are based on your fantasies.

Or will you say that Donbass is Russia?


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 17, 2022, 10:39:44 AM
the order to invade Afghanistan came from Moscow and not from Baku.

And in Moscow was the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Where Azerbaijanis were present, just as they were present in the troops.

And Brezhnev himself was born in Kamenskoye, Ukraine.

So your fabrications about Russians are based on your fantasies.

Or will you say that Donbass is Russia?

 I give up! Azerbaijanis are guilty of Russia's attack on Afghanistan, but Russians are not. Moreover, Brezhnev, who is also not Russian because he was born in Ukraine, is also guilty. So Minister Lavrov claims that Russia did not attack Ukraine, and I agree with him. Russia is not waging any war with Ukraine, I hope you are satisfied. All this lies and intrigues of the Americans. I don't think you are against it. And Putin generally tells the truth all the time, unlike all other Western and Ukrainian politicians. I hope you have calmed down now.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: BADecker on July 17, 2022, 03:44:50 PM
^^^ The US is supporting the Ukraine government. Without the US backing them, the Ukraine would be weak and unable to do anything. So it is the US that is the problem.


Who is surrounding Russia to make war with them? All kinds of US/NATO countries.

Who is surrounding the US? None of them are Russia-backed countries.

Russia is totally acting in self-defense in its part in the war.


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Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Kavelj22 on July 18, 2022, 12:20:56 PM
the order to invade Afghanistan came from Moscow and not from Baku.

And in Moscow was the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Where Azerbaijanis were present, just as they were present in the troops.

And Brezhnev himself was born in Kamenskoye, Ukraine.

So your fabrications about Russians are based on your fantasies.

Or will you say that Donbass is Russia?

 I give up! Azerbaijanis are guilty of Russia's attack on Afghanistan, but Russians are not. Moreover, Brezhnev, who is also not Russian because he was born in Ukraine, is also guilty. So Minister Lavrov claims that Russia did not attack Ukraine, and I agree with him. Russia is not waging any war with Ukraine, I hope you are satisfied. All this lies and intrigues of the Americans. I don't think you are against it. And Putin generally tells the truth all the time, unlike all other Western and Ukrainian politicians. I hope you have calmed down now.

Well, I get the scene now.
I really find it strange that there are those who justify Russia's invasion of other countries by suspending the charges against other countries occupied by the Soviet Union as well. What really drives them to do this? Is it their excessive intelligence or their blind eyes to see the truth of things? Afghanistan has not emerged from the cycle of violence since the invasion of the Soviet Union. This is really sad.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 18, 2022, 12:50:56 PM
Afghanistan has not emerged from the cycle of violence since the invasion of the Soviet Union. This is really sad.

Usama Bin Laden was the chief aide to the U.S. there, what outcome did you want?


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Desmong on July 18, 2022, 06:13:17 PM
^^^ The US is supporting the Ukraine government. Without the US backing them, the Ukraine would be weak and unable to do anything. So it is the US that is the problem.


Who is surrounding Russia to make war with them? All kinds of US/NATO countries.

Who is surrounding the US? None of them are Russia-backed countries.

Russia is totally acting in self-defense in its part in the war.


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Russia knows that Ukraine post an act of thread to there region if they do not fight against Ukraine that joined NATO easily and can attract the US to come close to there border to spy on the Russia. Putin knows what he's doing that is why he don't want to end the war because of the thread Ukraine post to there sovereignty. The war can only stop if the Ukraine decided to leave NATO then putin will feel comfortable to end the war and let the Ukrainian region stay peaceful.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 18, 2022, 07:04:57 PM
if the Ukraine decided to leave NATO

What drugs do you take? Ukraine is not a member of NATO.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: BADecker on July 19, 2022, 12:04:40 AM
if the Ukraine decided to leave NATO

What drugs do you take? Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

True, but better than NATO. What other country has the US ever given this much money and military power to? Not the NATO countries. Not this fast... less than a half year. NATO countries should be jealous. Maybe some of them are. Might even split NATO against the US for being so picky.

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Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: yazher on July 19, 2022, 10:46:00 AM
You sure took your time to research all of this and honestly, it's my first time to know that Russia has been defeated by the Afghan force back then. I think Putin will be there for a long because he has all the resources he needs to be immune to those who wanted to take him out. remember the guy still has the switch that can change the history of human civilization because when he is really out of his mind, he might be triggered to test one of those nukes in some major city in Ukraine, and may god forbid him from doing so because no one really cares for the victim by that time because the risk for the rescuer by that time, will be enough for them to stop helping the civilians.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: BADecker on July 19, 2022, 07:46:27 PM
^^^ All those poor, little Ukrainian ladies in the dating/marriage sites. They soooooo want to get out of there, just because Putin might do nukes. But they can't find any guys from other countries to take them.  ;D

Maybe they should go after Putin, huh?  :P

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Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 21, 2022, 06:09:13 AM
^^^ All those poor, little Ukrainian ladies in the dating/marriage sites. They soooooo want to get out of there, just because Putin might do nukes. But they can't find any guys from other countries to take them.  ;D

Maybe they should go after Putin, huh?  :P

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It is unlikely that anyone in Russia will look for their future. People traditionally left Russia, and not vice versa.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 21, 2022, 06:19:38 AM
People traditionally left Russia, and not vice versa.

How many Azerbaijanis and Ukrainians are in Russia?


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 21, 2022, 07:45:02 AM
People traditionally left Russia, and not vice versa.

How many Azerbaijanis and Ukrainians are in Russia?

 Don't know. And what does this have to do with the topic? By the way, not a few Russians live in Azerbaijan and other countries. What's next?


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 21, 2022, 10:04:39 AM
The fact that people are leaving Azerbaijan, and a lot of them.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 21, 2022, 11:11:34 AM
The fact that people are leaving Azerbaijan, and a lot of them.

  If we compare how many citizens leave Russia and Azerbaijan, then both in terms of quantity and percentage of ethnic Russians leaving Russia are much more. Mostly Russians, Jews, Armenians leave Azerbaijan, and what is interesting, not to their homeland, but to Europe and America. And another significant fact, if Azerbaijani refugees fled from Armenia to Azerbaijan, then Armenians from Azerbaijan ended up anywhere, but not in Armenia. Today, Armenians are leaving Armenia in large numbers, which indicates that Armenia is an artificially created state by the Russians in the place of Azerbaijan after the conquest of the Caucasus.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 21, 2022, 04:40:57 PM
both in terms of quantity and percentage of ethnic Russians leaving Russia are much more.

Probably 2,500,000 Azerbaijanis live in Russia, so don't exaggerate the percentage.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 21, 2022, 05:27:21 PM
both in terms of quantity and percentage of ethnic Russians leaving Russia are much more.

Probably 1/3 of Azerbaijanis live in Russia, so don't exaggerate the percentage.

About 2 million Azerbaijanis live in Russia, and keep in mind that some of them live in Dagestan, which used to be part of Azerbaijan. There are about 10 million Azerbaijanis in Azerbaijan. That is, 1/5, and not 1/3 of Azerbaijanis from the population of Azerbaijan live in Russia.


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: VKcams.com on July 21, 2022, 05:45:23 PM
There are about 10 million Azerbaijanis in Azerbaijan.

"B caмoм Aзepбaйджaнe пpoживaют oкoлo 8,2 миллиoнa aзepбaйджaнцeв (пepeпиcь 2009 гoдa), cocтaвляя 91,6 % нaceлeния cтpaны."
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%86%D1%8B#cite_note-Azer2009-4

http://www.azstat.org/statinfo/demoqraphic/en/AP_/1_5.xls


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: johhnyUA on July 21, 2022, 08:37:06 PM
About 2 million Azerbaijanis live in Russia, and keep in mind that some of them live in Dagestan, which used to be part of Azerbaijan. There are about 10 million Azerbaijanis in Azerbaijan. That is, 1/5, and not 1/3 of Azerbaijanis from the population of Azerbaijan live in Russia.

Your forget about 15 million azerbaijanis in Iran. Yep, this is kinda fun that in Iran living more azerbaijanis than in Azerbaijan.
So we have 15 + 8-10 + 2 = 25-27 million

The number of azerbaijanis in Russia is even less than 10 %


Title: Re: After Putin
Post by: Alik Bahshi on July 21, 2022, 09:06:54 PM
About 2 million Azerbaijanis live in Russia, and keep in mind that some of them live in Dagestan, which used to be part of Azerbaijan. There are about 10 million Azerbaijanis in Azerbaijan. That is, 1/5, and not 1/3 of Azerbaijanis from the population of Azerbaijan live in Russia.

Your forget about 15 million azerbaijanis in Iran. Yep, this is kinda fun that in Iran living more azerbaijanis than in Azerbaijan.
So we have 15 + 8-10 + 2 = 25-27 million

The number of azerbaijanis in Russia is even less than 10 %

  Firstly, there are 25-35 million Azerbaijanis in Iran. Secondly, my opponent compared the Azerbaijanis in Russia with their number in Azerbaijan.
   After the fall of the Parthian kingdom as a result of the Arab conquests, ethnic Iranians were not in power until Pahlavi came to power, before him the Turks (including Azerbaijanis) owned power in Iran.