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Hi,

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We will NEVER ask for money in return (eg. subscriptions, fixed games) so be careful about scammers and impersonators. Our only goal is to win as much money as possible from betting and ONLY betting.

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as you created a thread in this forum, I suggest that you post frequently in this thread the tips of some games, that way people will be able to see how far your tips are good or not and they will be able to discuss about each game you will be posting tips, I believe it can be a good thing to discuss ideas and each person give tips on this thread too


i hope this is true

It can be promised on this forum in this thread in the OP that money will not be demanded for in the telegram group, but we do not know what would happen later, maybe money would be demanded for.

My advice is just that people should not pay money for anyone for betting prediction, they are all scam. There are few prediction sites of your choice that you can use. Even people can make their own analyses. Also some people do not bet on leagues they do not know about.

Make some predictions on this thread to start with just as it has been suggested.

Something like a subscription in Telegram just makes me think that it's about increasing the numbers of followers on your channel then eventually will abandon it, selling it, putting a paid subscription in the future after establishing a good winning rate, or something like that.

Not saying it will be the case for you but while doing that on Telegram and if you don't mind, you can also add and shared your picks here on daily basis for users to see your winning rate. It will just take a few seconds of posting.

Anyways, welcome to the forum.

It usually never is. Or they call it something else like a membership fee or something.  I am clearly stating that I am very dubious of anyone advertising tips and predictions of any kind. Whether Bitcoin, stocks or gambling. In 99% of all cases it leads to the same profit scheme of taking people for fools while also taking their money.

How do you make these predicitions? Do you have a system? How does it work? Can you show us proof of past predictions you have made which turned a profit for the person buying in on the prediction? How do you plan to make money with this idea?

All important questions that need answering.

Welcome to the forum.

Only 2 subscribers, actually 3 because I just subscribed and this telegram channel was only created on July 23 this year, you say you have years of experience maybe you can provide evidence about your claim, it's like a winning match, I honestly doubt it

maybe you are right because many do that

^ No one will believe in this service because there is no such thing in reality.
Free tips and prediction? What does OP think is that bookmakers or per match has a fixed result?
Plus another factor, OP is a newbie account and did not have proof or anything.

When clicking on the link to the telegram channel, there is no possibility of previewing only a subscription, I see only one subscriber on the channel, the idea is certainly viable, but here I thought that the telegram channel already had some development before publication here, it turned out that this is not the case.

Sounds good but if your only aim and goal is to win as much as possible from betting and only betting than surely you can share your main tips here while you can share more tips in the telegram group.This way we in the forum can have some "guru" team that can illuminate us with some nice betting tips although as you have seen so far,no one  is that much convinced,only your statistics can change the mind of the majority of people here.It would be a good start to start posting here,if you win often it will only be natural that you will have a lot of people which will join your telegram channel.

Hope this is not a kinda strategy to lure people into your telegram group and after a while you start asking people to pay you money for subscription in order to join your VIP tips group that this is just a general group , so I'm talking from the point of experience and what other people have done in the past when I have joined their groups during the time I was still a novies in gambling , saying this because this is same kind of story line they used and you are using right now, I guess in the end that you not gonna end up start asking people to pay you for your tips as you have stated.

Is obvious that you signed up this account for only financial benefit that you want to get from people on this forum. You want to take advantage of the population of the forum. Whether you are genuine or not you are definitely looking for something that will benefit just you. If you are not talking of money to be paid so how do you go on with the service? Taking your time to be in the forum for a while is a better for you or you open up the charge for your service for people to know. Paste some outcome of some tips you have made.

if you actually want to gain trust in this forum or get the attention of possible subscriber/s, you'd need to provide evidence or at least provide tips and predictions publicly through this thread you created. also, as you can see other members have concerns, do not take this as an attack, people here are just cautious since scammers are rampant here in the forum.

⚽️ Football 26 Jul. 2022

▶️ = Game, Prediction, Bankroll


▶️ Shkupi Skopje - Dinamo Zagreb

Dinamo Zagreb & Over 1.5 Goals @ 1.53

5%


▶️ Lincoln Red Imps - Tobol

Over 1.5 Goals @ 1.36

5%


▶️ Shamrock Rovers - Ludogorets

Ludogorets or Draw @ 1.40

5%

Actually telegram is good, it can be said that the application is one trillion people, unfortunately this one application is often misused by certain people to carry out fraud and crime, the most crime cases such as: betting, tips, predictions and so on related to gambling bets.

Stupid humans can also think, if, you open a betting group on telegram, you are sure it wins 100%, Of course you can definitely do it yourself, to get a lot of benefits, why do you tell us to share the invitation link, do you aim to click on the invitation link to many people, so you can get a lot of dollars.

I think you are in the wrong place to come here offering tips, predictions in gambling bets, we have often eaten salt from the tactics and strategies carried out by fraudsters on telegram, especially sports betting.

Every now and then we get new users stating they are experienced gamblers. Some claim to have insider information, others are even talking about fixed matches. Eventually, they give up and go away.
 
Honestly, the tips you posted are nothing special and anyone who gambles on football could reach the same conclusions. How about posting a preview of the matches that led you to those conclusions, so we can understand your way of thinking?

If you have years of experience in booking, I guess there are other communities and platforms you are part of where you can show proof of your expertise? Could we see that?

Welcome to the forum, I think you must move this thread to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0 because this is not the right part either. I will look again at your predictions that share for free, and I hope you seriously analysis. Also of course I'll join later to your channel at the right time when most major Leagues have started, but for now I will just look at the predictions you share on the forum, sorry regards.

Just seeing the title tells me it was a telegram stuff and I'm not wrong when I hovered and opened the link. Seems like the kind of stuff in which telegram bots are used to share. Don't get mad if I define it that way, I've been a mod for some groups and likely to see these kind of things. Good luck and hope you'll never get tired of giving tips and then end up asking for some donation or payments.

What does "years of betting" mean? Losing money for years is also "betting years". I don't see any interesting tips - it's not a problem for a player to make such predictions. If I join every such group and read all such tips, I will have no time to bet. And more than 70% of such tips in such groups are reposts from one group to another.

That’s great to know that you guys are offering something for free.
But I would advise all the gamblers not to use any tipping service. As, if you win the match you will praise the tipping service, but by chance if you lose, then for the whole life you gonna curse them.
So when it’s your own money, why to bet on other’s advise?
Nevertheless OP it would be also great if you can one bets daily here on the thread, and those who want they will use that to bet.

The channel don't have that much subscriber and it seems that it's only you. Why not start giving those free tips and predictions on this thread and let everyone see your picks in the public.

I think if that's your main goal of increasing that channel's subscribers and users, that's the best way of doing it.

Other than that, as you're saying that it's for free and you won't be asking any amount of money because your goal is to share your winning picks to everybody for free.

If he's really serious on getting subs or followers then he should post up free tips and predictions into this thread and wont really be forcing out the people on visiting any messaging platforms or app.

Not totally surprising yet we've seen lots of these offers before but ending up on getting no supporter because people would rather prefer on using their own analysis rather than on following
someone who doesnt really even have the history showing off winning rate.

Totally most of the time they are just trying to accumulate users into their channel but most of the time they do really fail.

Some of these telegram groups want it in more private way rather than posting in public because if they do and get a good rating on predictions they'll asked their members a fee the next time or to new joiners. This is how they work and believe it or not it's still relevant until these days, nothing comes free in the long run.

Nothing comes free for those legit things which you could really consider for it to be real or something worth for subscription fees but most of the time those are just pure guesses and predictions and if

they do hit up a win then they would really be boasting it off but if a loss then better luck next time.People arent dumb not to notice and look for success rate because it would really be just dumb for
someone to pay up some fees just because he do see a single win.

Yes, it might be that casual scenario happening in the market but its indeed there are still who do these things and still works because people do really make themselves look like a fool.

Predictions can come from anywhere and we have found many on various channels. But in my opinion for someone who may be missing information how each match has a high stakes level. Whether that prediction is correct or not, I hope that it really doesn't cost a penny. Given the level of accuracy of predictions actually refers to speculation.

Just update any information here if you want to try to provide more proof.

The odds itself is self explanatory on how risky it was and also the bank roll percentage for the bet can serves as an indicator about risk factor on his tips. This free tipster service is just new so done expect much output from it especially the accuracy of his prediction because he is still building his portfolio. We should just wait a couple of his prediction result before we conclude about the reliability of his service.

People tend to still believe these free tips when in fact in gambling you can be your own boss and predict like the rest of the others. The only thing you need to know is that it wouldn't be easy and you still need the knowledge in these stuffs, like how the game works, how the players do etc. If it's a game of chance, hell, you don't even need a free tipster, you should check yourself if you're still fine if you do.

The reason why many gamblers use tipster services is because they are lazy to find information about the match they will choose to bet on or bettors who want to bet on sports that are not too well known are difficult to get references online so tipsters service is the choice, the important thing is to be able to get credible tipsters but unfortunately this sometimes has to be done by paying for the service.

Another claimant of being a trusted and good prediction and tips , and the word  I love the most is that "They are not asking for Money"  ;D ;D ;D

so what is the sense of giving service for free when you wont earn any tips or something? if this is true then you are just wasting your time to help people? then we should call you a HERO?

and why not bring the Tips here instead? you are allowed to post in your own thread so why not give it a shot?

Agreed. Tipster is very convenient for user that don't a good analysis skills about a certain sports result prediction while tipster usually get profit by giving there referral link to there subscribers and sometimes they are charging some membership fee.

Tipster serves as a fund manager in gambling because they are the one that gives you the betting option but this only applicable on trusted tipster that already proved themselves.

It looks like they are building the portfolio of their telegram channel.  So far there is 2 subscribers in the channel, their last prediction is last July 25.  I wouldn't say anything harsh but from the looks of it there isn't much going on the channel.  @OP if you wanted to impress people here, you should be more active on the channel where you wanted us to join regardless of the number of subscribers else, it would leave a bad impression and your effort will be wasted.

Maybe the reason of their inactivity its because they didn't get much awareness nor people don't like what they are offering, but if they are just promoting more what they do and didn't just rely from people coming from here maybe they can get different result. But then again people are aware about those groups asking for money so maybe this is the reason why this didn't get any big hit from gamblers.

That's the good start that he can do if he's for the gain of subscribers to his telegram channel. In all seriousness, if his picks are really good he'll be recognized on the forum and everyone is going to be familiar by his analysis for his bets.

And that's going to gain him subscribers naturally which is one of the best way to gain people that will actually follow him.

A natural growth is what majority of channels desired to have.

They also think that if they get a big, popular tipster, they'll have some insider knowledge like when you have info straight from a boxer's corner about his recent workout injuries or an illness he's been hiding. Most of it is just wishful thinking. They almost never have any real info, just got lucky with their predictions a few times and people follow them to piggyback on their luck.
I think that OP is just a wannabe tipster. Popular ones have nothing interesting to sell and wannabees have even less.

I must say your team did well and is there anything in return regardless you don't you asked for any fee or subscription on a monthly basis. Concerning your telegram group, I would suggest you should create a Twitter page to be regularly posting your games and I believe from Twitter you could build your telegram group then for the games or correct scores, they can be posted here but they should carry some specific warning tags like something "Bet with what you can afford to lose" and many warning to guide you more from anyone accusing your team. I know people are very funny most at times might play with all they have.

Maybe it's free but I wouldn't trust it. Tipsters who are just starting their career are always going free to build their reputation and gain potential customers but it's always just they hoping for the best. They've got nothing to lose if you think about it. If they get a high win ratio, they'll probably gain some followers and ask them for donations to get some money for betting. If they don't, they'll change their name and start again. Rinse and repeat until they get some wins and some people to buy their tips.

This is how it works, first they need to work hard to het the trust of the public and then later on, they will start doing something. I’m not saying this is a scam but of course we should learn from our experiences before and this is not the first group to offer the same services. Does tipster really works for free and is there’s a guarantee for this? I bet none at all and this is pure risk. I will also not trust this kind of services again, or in any signal group.

There’s no such free tips and free prediction, something is behind this kind of services and it gambling, its too risky to someone who offers the same tips. I may look harsh here but I won’t trust any tips and predictions especially when it comes to sports betting though if its about tips on how to improve your gambling skills, then this can be more ok. If OP is just trying to make a huge community for one reason, better to be careful on following any tips, its more fun to gamble if you just play on your own and have that sports analysis on your own as well, this is more exciting to me.

^ Definitely right, it's more fun if we gamble based on our predictions, the tipster is also not sure of what they predicted because there are no matches that we will know already the result or it is a fixed game. There is always a risky part who will take this offer because it will probably be a fake one or either OP did not know how exactly the results going on. I would rather stick to my prediction rather than rely on this unknown tipster without any proof of what OP's said. Not unless OP has an accurate result or provides proof.

I agree, I think your suggestion about the twitter prediction broadcast is great.  People will recognize their skills if their predictions is spot on but even an 80%+ accuracy is already a feat.  OP just needs to drop the link of their telegram group and people who seek sports betting tips will join.  Just make sure that the telegram group they mentioned on their Twitter account is fully packed with the activity of predictions.  That would impress new joiners and may even join their premium services if that is @OP main goal.

To prove your credibility , I think the best thing you should do in order to get people attention and in that way get more subscribers to your telegram group is to post your free games and tips here for a period of time like some weeks -1 month or more so that time can prove your consistency right or wrong and If at all there is really a fixed games you wouldn't even want to share it to people in the first place. However in my general opinion what I suggest you should do is showing full working to the interested ones for them to have evidence and much reasons to join you.

Well, I joined... only 2 subscribers! :)

The last (and only) prediction is from 25th! 2 hits and one miss!

and this must be free of charge and not those other group that i come to visit in the past that asks money for predictions or tips.

I was wondering what would be the benefits for these kind of people since they are asking for nothing ? what would be the return?

are they legit? or there is a  hidden agenda on their part ?

Although I have actually thought of it that could be the perfect place to announce their selves then most of the scores or prediction can be posted here if any one find it pleasant or wroth betting they can select and place their bet.

Well count me in as number 3 subscriber. It's not bad as result of first set of prediction which means you already earned if you bet and follow the bet allocation that gives on his prediction. The channel has no follow up prediction after the first one. Probably the already not interested anymore on providing tipster due to the low acceptance to his free service offered.

It's funny on how this thread rceived huge replies while his subscribers never grow that much even just for support since this service is free.  :D

They will never have the motivation to provide tipster service if it's for free unless they have hidden agenda like gaining a number of subscribers. It's really hard to gain the trust of most users nowadays because most of us are getting rid of unreliable tipsters. It's actually a good thing if they're offering a free service but it's hard to trust Telegram channels nowadays.

My experience with prediction groups wasn't successful either because their predictions aren't accurate. From then on, I learned how to do at least simple analysis so I won't be needing to rely on tipsters. Most of them are not helping to be honest. If they really want to prove that they're reliable, they should have shared proof of their trading success.

Hmmm, sadly, this is exactly the same words scammers use too, how do we then know the ones that are real and the ones that are fake?
At the initial beginning, money won't be asked from any new member, but as time goes on, probably after 1 or 2 wins, you will be asked to join a vip group if you want to continue winning through their tips.
At this point, you've tasted the wins, you seen how sweet it is, so saying no to their offer becomes a big problem for you, at the end of the day, you end up paying some huge sums of money to join their vip group where they promised you even more wins, far more than the few times youve won, you don't know you've been scammed.

The above is a scenerio, and also a strategy scammers use, I've once been a victim to scam through the above strategy.

By the way, why lie that you have a team when it's just actually you?
A group of persons working together is considered a team when they are above atleast, 4 persons, I wanted to join your telegram group but discovered its just 3 members in there, you, and maybe 2 other users of this forum that joined, where are your team members you mentioned in your post?
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You would have simply told us you are a gambling professional and can offer betting tips and predictions for free, i believe those interested in trying out your prediction skills would have still joined, other than painting a picture that does not exist to win members to your group.

Actually i am also not believe any prediction from any group. Coz only one premium group do there own analyses and all the  3rd party group just copy that prediction and post on there group/channel. I like to do own research and make my own prediction for gambling and trading. actually gamble is only for fun so i always try to enjoy it by my own research.

Exactly! These groups just waste of time. I can suppose that some of them believe that they helps each others, but the main part just copy-paste someone`s prediction. And they even don`t know who was the real author of it. Surely, it is possible to find a group with the men that really works on predictions, but i don`t think, that they invite everybody. And i`m sure that we`ll never see such kind of a thread from them.

He should really be having this kind of mindset on which he should be listening out peoples suggestion on here.It isnt bad to make people visit out his TG link but the thing he should mind out is on how

to convince people on joining because sharing out links wont be that effective for people to join if they arent convinced thats why it would be ideal that sharing up tips on this thread
is much more recommended rather than saying that people should join on his channel first.

Its true about that natural growth where recognition would really just happen naturally if he do just stick out on giving good tips and prediction with sports
and people would find it out immediately if they would get or see something interesting.

I'm really with this kind of channel as long as there are no subscriptions or massive amount of advertisements on the channel. Since you offer a free service, I guess you will include some advertisement on your channel, as what I just said, it is understandable as long as it is not annoying and doesn't promote any scam.

Good luck with that, if you really mean your words, I hope for the channel to grow.

I think it means they have an experience already on this field. They seem to be confident when they say this so I think that their wins are more than their losses and if losses are more than their wins then I don't think they will still have the motivation to pursue this hobby. Did you check the group already for you to say you don't see any interesting tips? Or, maybe you are referring to those lousy groups which are nothing but only exist to scam people.

I haven't check the OP's group as well but based on what I read from others' feedback, the group has 3 predictions already and 2 of them are accurate and one is a fail. I think that was a good start, let's see if they can maintain this ratio.

We are a team of 4 members managing this telegram account, no need to add useless telegram accounts just to increase the number of subscribers :)

⚽️ Football 30 Jul. 2022

▶️ = Game, 💰 Prediction, 🏦 Bankroll

▶️ Liverpool - Manchester City
💰 BTTS @ 1.65
🏦 10%

▶️ Porto - Tondela
💰 Porto & Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.57
🏦 5%

▶️ St. Gallen - Zurich
💰 St. Gallen or Draw @ 1.35
🏦 5%

▶️ Ajax - PSV
💰 BTTS @ 1.55
🏦 5%

Soon we will add more sports predictions like MMA/Tennis/F1 predictions. Thanks everyone for joining!

I think we all understand what the OP wanted to say. Next time i will use tag *sarcasm*. I mean that we see only words without proves. These predictions are to easy to understand that this group is really good. And one more moment. If they have 2/3 success tips - the odds must be 1.55 or higher every time just to get your money back.

That already indicates that we can not call this service too serious. 2 successful results and a miss are unacceptable to me. Although I don't know what the odds are. I also maintain that such important information from gamblers is not passed on on channels or with simple subscriptions, they keep gamblers for themselves to bet money with a group from a gambling syndicate. You can try it, but it's probably only a matter of time before things go wrong.

Excellent day today!

Liverpool - Manchester City ✅
Porto - Tondela ✅
St. Gallen - Zurich ✅
Ajax - PSV ✅

What can you get by doing this if you're not asking for money?
Are your team really that concern for other gamblers to win?
I have doubt that there's no hidden intention behind this. Because there are many scammers especially in TG hence you cant blame other users if they dont trust easily.

Probably they will introduce later on a premium service and use this free service as portfolio to attract customers on there future business. This is common on this kind service provider and I don’t think any trace of scam attempt by just providing free service like this tipster.

I like there style by starting from scratch of there portfolio because we have basis if there service is good or bad in case they will provide premium service. They have a good start already, Let’s just watch for now.

Many sites that post free tips introduce a VIP group where they post tips with bigger odds. Eventually, the free service might include 2-3 matches maybe with low odds but if you subscribe and and pay a monthly fee, you can get many more tips with greater odds. So technically, the service remains free, but they also create a premium package that you have to pay to get access to. Of course, this is just speculation because we can't know what ideas this group have in mind and how they intend to make money.

⚽️ Football 31 Jul. 2022

▶️ = Game, 💰 Prediction, 🏦 Bankroll

▶️ Young Boys - Grasshoppers
💰 Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.42
🏦 10%

▶️ Molde - Stromsgodset
💰 Molde @ 1.40
🏦 5%

▶️ Sarpsborg - Lillestrom
💰 Lillestrom or Draw @ 1.57
🏦 10%

▶️ Elfsborg - Hacken
💰 Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.50
🏦 5%

Sounds like their group is legit since I didn't find anything shady related to them so far. The variety of markets and the odds themselves are decent and zero investment from our side is a plus.

However, I urge everyone not to pay for any premium subscriptions at any point in the future unless they proven themselves as an extremely reliable group. Just my 2 cents.

I just checked it and see only 3 subscribers and it's more on a football betting tips if I'm not mistaken. I know that football is a global sports however, I'm not into it, so I left the group.

But for those who are into this sports betting, maybe you can find their group helpful as I also didn't see any shady related tips or anything. Just straight up ML or handicap bet.

It's been days since OP made this post and it's strange that in his telegram group there are few members even looking at the predictions he makes on telegram which are predictions that are right, on average they manage to hit most games that make predictions , I even joined their telegram channel to continue watching how I like sports betting I think this channel is useful. Attention, I'm not endorsing the channel, this is a free channel, don't pay anything. and don't use take the predictions as if they had a crystal ball and weren't going to miss. they also make mistakes, because they don't have a crystal ball. That's why it's called prediction


It's strange to hear that someone doesn't like football being the most popular sport in the world

⚽️ Football 02 Aug. 2022

▶️ = Game, 💰 Prediction, 🏦 Bankroll

▶️ Ludogorets - Dinamo Zagreb
💰 Over 1.5 Goals @ 1.42
🏦 10%

▶️ St. Gilloise - Rangers
💰 Under 3.5 Goals @ 1.40
🏦 5%

▶️ Benfica - Midtjylland
💰 Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.67
🏦 5%

▶️ KA Akureyri - KR Reykjavik
💰 KA Akureyri or Draw @ 1.41
🏦 5%

Sorry for being inactive in the last days, a few members from our team we're on vacation these days.

Here we go with another day with predictions vouched by our team:

⚽️ Football 04 Aug. 2022

▶️ = Game, 💰 Prediction, 🏦 Bankroll

▶️ Molde - Kisvarda
💰 Molde @ 1.42
🏦 10%

▶️ KuPS - Young Boys
💰 Young Boys @ 1.45
🏦 5%

▶️ Brondby - Basel
💰 BTTS @ 1.80
🏦 5%

I notice that you are not updating the result anymore compared you make 100% win rate on one of your prediction set. I hope that you will be transparent win or lose and provide you win rate stats to all your bets so that viewers will have an idea on how accurate your prediction.

I suggest that maybe providing betting link for the specific matches that you are giving tipster but use only reputable casino to do that.

But he never said his prediction will always 100% correct, I checked all of his prediction he posted in this forum, he at least have 75% win rate which is quite higher. I didn't mean to say his prediction is legit and profitable, but it's what it's. I think I will follow his prediction and of course lower than my ordinary amount bet since I'm still cautious if his prediction gone wrong.

⚽️ Football 05 Aug. 2022

▶️ = Game, 💰 Prediction, 🏦 Bankroll

▶️ 'U' Cluj - Petrolul
💰 'U' Cluj or Draw @ 1.40
🏦 15%

▶️ Schaffhausen - Wil
💰 Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.55
🏦 5%

▶️ Lyon - AC Ajaccio
💰 Lyon @ 1.40
🏦 5%

▶️ Frankfurt - Bayern
💰 BTTS @ 1.53
🏦 5%

I think that the basis of all this is that it stays that way, and when the group begins to be successful, those who are creators always come up with the grandiose idea of subscription and I think that's where the magic ends or that that is preached, but I really like what they want to achieve, and it is that they exchange information, strategy and the reason for betting or being biased, in a debate of this style not only can you win, but one person learns from the other And yes, it may be that each person makes a lot of money, and that is where the importance lies for me that if it is fulfilled, everyone wins and it is equal.