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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.

Doesn't matter what he's doing or what he's up to. He released one of the most important inventions in this lifetime and left. He deserves to rest peacefully probably in some beach int the Bahamas. Respecting his privacy and all that.

^I get why most people are curious, but you get the point.

He is certainly not creating one more revolutionary shitcoin project, like most of the current Faktoshi imposters I heard off are doing.
Joke asice, this question is really not imporant at all and I am considering that person calling himself Satoshi is not alive anymore.
RIP.

Supposing that Satoshi is a "he" first of all, No one has been able to place the correct gender of satoshi or even if it's a group. Not that his current activities should be of any concern to us, but certainly Satoshi is not idol, to think of it, Satoshi may still very much be in observation of bitcoins from a distance, it is difficult, i think impossible to create something as innovative as bitcoins and just abandon it without keeping watch or checking on it once in a while.

My guess is he’s just chillin.

I'm not really sure about your theory though, he has left and hide from the public's eye for so many years that I doubt that he will comeback in this forum or even have alt account (who even thought that this is possible during that time?)

Anyhow, perhaps he might be active in other endeavors, maybe he has families to feed and needed another job to bring food in the table.

If Satoshi is not dead and still alive, what he is doing/they are doing right now is as simple as other alive people.
- Enjoying his achievement so far related to Bitcoin and also crypto,
- of coruse Eating
- Sleeping
- Doing daily activities from daily activities, sleeping, and waking up.
And,
what,,, wait,, is it so important for you to know what he is doing? Whoever he is and whatever he is doing right now, let it be and we cannot assume whatever it is.  ;D

He will just go crazy if he will think about what Satoshi is doing right now.
He opted to be mysterious up until today for his personal reasons.
Definitely, he will be doing what a regular person is doing for his daily activities.
But more than that, I believe, it will remain a mystery.
Just be contented that we have this bitcoin today because of him.

a journey that flashed in the shadows. he may have visions and projects that only they can. I agree with some friends on the privacy and glory of someone who does not want to publish it. maybe from a long time your guess brought up to ask with an alt account but I don't think so.
he was active when the forum was opened and gave examples of quality posts. thanks satoshi and what is available here is a useful asset.
If you are as tall as Mr. Satoshi, I think it is very worthy to enjoy life behind the beautiful world and window screens.

Do we have to speculate things for whatever he does privately? He even not give a hint what his personal life is when he is still active here. Although it's obvious he's a tech guy and wont be working any government offices.

nobody knows, all the people here would just be making assumptions/jokes. some would even say that satoshi has never left and is fighting for his bitcoin. ::)

who knows, maybe someday he'll ask theymos to unlock his account and be active here in the forum or maybe not.

I remember reading(at least part of it) somewhere that "Mike Hearn" account could be alt his account.

EDIT: here's the thread that I am talking about Could Satoshi Nakamoto be Mike Hearn? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2146520.0)

Satoshi might be:
- Chillin like a Boss
- Travelling in different countries around the world
- Eating in Salt Bae's restaurant :P
- Spending the remaining years in a beach while thinking if Satoshi will reveal it's identity or not.

I'm curious and I'm hoping that there will be a time where Satoshi will reveal it's true identity but I'm not expecting it to happen because it will affect it's security and his lifestyle. Overall, let's just forget about Satoshi's true identity and just continue to use Bitcoin :).

If he's not dead, he's still alive.  :'(
Honestly, like many people here, after man  ;)y years in this market, I gradually lost my curiosity about him and didn't need to wonder who he was and what he was doing. I'm really grateful for what this character or team has done to create something that gives us the opportunity to see more of the economy or technology in our lives. Rather, we are also a part of him, spreading information related to what he brings.

Just like his/her/their identity and why he/she/they left, we are also as clueless as to what Satoshi is probably doing right now. But what I don't agree with is that Satoshi, assuming he/she is an individual person, is just chilling on the beach, drinking his/her favorite cocktail, doing nothing.

My impression is that Satoshi is a passionate and a natural busy man/woman. And a busy person can't survive doing nothing. Although of course he/she could afford to while away hours, even days, once in a while, I don't think he/she could survive years just relaxing. Vacation is everybody's need but to be on a vacation every single day for the rest of the kind of life Satoshi seems to have, I don't think it is possible.

My guess is that Satoshi is mainly enjoying reading or studying something, experimenting, trying things out, and the likes.

Here the question should be:

If he is alive why he haven't spend his coins... That's the tricky part about this topic. We all know he has close to 1 Million of bitcoins, and not a single Satoshi has moved, so, the only logic reason for that is he is not anymore with us.

Another thing that makes me think he is not alive is the fact that Craig is doing all his shit. And if Satoshi wants he could destroy Craig in any moment he wants. But he didn't.

Anything is possible,

He may trolling in this forum with his new alt account, he may just chillin and didn't do anything anymore since he already achieve financial freedom. He may want to create altcoins that will compete Bitcoin in the future, we don't know.

However, Satoshi never appeared after he creating Bitcoin for 13 years is already amazing achievement since he's very consistent.

The truth is that we do not have any idea about it, satoshi was incredibly explicit when it came to bitcoin and what he wanted for bitcoin to achieve, but when it came to the person behind his legendary username he was very secretive, while I would like to imagine satoshi not doing much and just having fun while watching the world deal with the invention he released, the only honest answer we can give is that he could be doing anything at the moment.

Well you don't find it interesting that there is a good chance that satoshi is still in this forum just under another username. Maybe if the right research is done it would even be possible to uncover who it is. Anyways if you follow the media about Dorian Nakamoto I think Im not the only person interested in this.

Why do you care? You must not care on what Satoshi is doing or whether he is dead or not!

His goal is fulfilled and we are now enjoying the benefits of a financial system where only we can control our own finances. I believe that's enough. If someday he/they have their identities revealed, all powerful enforcement agencies will start running behind him/them. I strongly believe that the case of Craig wright is a got up by FBI to draw him out. But they have failed big time!

What makes you so certain that they did not already find him many years ago? It should be quite easy to track him down if he was a US citizen and if not it would also be only a matter of time. I think people do not have the slightest clue what CIA and FBI could do if they really want to and put in enough resources.

Very funny question though but what he might be doing now is not what we should be bothering ourselves for neither should we be curious about it the simple truth is that he has done some of great impact in the world. His innovation has attained a great feat in the world and there is nothing anybody can do about it. His invention can never be surpassed by any technology till this world is over.
To talk of his appearance here, you just can not tell who is who here. His safety is Paramount and second to none so therefore you don't expect him to start showing up for no just reason.

Maybe he is busy shilling Shiba and Doge.

I don't think satoshi, whoever that is, will ever return to the forum again. The forum he left behind and the one we have now are different communities. I don't see satoshi having too many people to talk to. A handful at most. He made the decision to disappear when the FBI started showing greater interest in Bitcoin, and that's where the story about satoshi ends. I doubt he is just sitting around doing nothing. Satoshi could be a different developer and a person working on something completely unrelated to Bitcoin today.

If he's not dead, my guess is he's in prison. His last post didn't look like he wouldn't come back.

What do you base this on?

I guess it's obvious that he is not going back to the forum after his sudden disappearance.

I will not speculate about him having fake account, that maybe the least of what he is going to do in his life. He has left it with good hands with Theymos. As someone said, doesn't matter, he has given us one of the greatest financial invention as it revolutionized on how we look at fiat and other assets.

Imagine you create one of the biggest inventions in the financial world ever. You write about the development with other people that help you make your vision reality. One day you have to abandon your main account because it is known that you are the head of bitcoin and you are in fear of something. Wouldn’t you from time to time come back with another account, to make shure all goes the right way with the future development?

Any mystery or riddle “tickles” the curiosity of people and therefore many people want to know who Satoshi was, what he is doing now and whether he is alive at all. Some for the sake of it (or sensation) collect information bit by bit to answer these questions. In my opinion, you need to leave alone everything that concerns bitcoin's founder and "let go" of all questions about him. If he wanted to do so, then so be it. We must respect his decision, if only out of a sense of gratitude for the great work he has done. Whatever Satoshi is doing now is none of our business. So I solidarity with your post.

No one knows what he is doing today but if he is alive I guess he is witnessing the effect of what he had unleashed. So much investigation like this a race to find him so by now he must have erased every track he did even its the track of his alt. If he really has alts.

If he chose to live somewhere in solidarity somewhere its his choice but it might just be dangerous for him to go out in the open.

If Satoshi is not dead, then he's not Hal Finney.

What he would be doing is probably posting in the Bitcoin dev-mailing list, or in Twitter under the name "Adam Back". Or he might be living a secluded life, and living under the name Nick Szabo.

Who Satoshi definitely is not, is that fraud/con-artist called? I will not mention the name, but everyone knows who he is.

Well, Satoshi did say that he (using "he" to make it less confusing) will be moving onto other things. I hope he is working on the next "disruptive" technology that will make global wealth distribution more equal.  ;)

Bitcoin mining was supposed to make it possible for everyone with a computer to "mine" and to receive a decent income, but expensive ASIC technology has destroyed that goal, so rich people and large mining operations are dominating Bitcoin mining now.

Cmon... Satoshi!.... destroy unemployment with your next invention.  :P

So what is the intent of doing this research of uncovering who Satoshi really is? Is there some positivity that you believe it will bring to Bitcoins growth like someone on a different topic thinks knowing who Satoshi is can reduce the value of Bitcoin. Of cause it could well be that Satoshi is somewhere anywhere doing what (s)he/they feel, which should be, and the rest of us should enjoy what Bitcoin has turned out to be.   

Those things were discussed before;

• Is Satoshi Alive? Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2757.0)
• Satoshi Disappear Day (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6730.0)
• Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5951.0)
• Satoshi cannot hide himself if the gov really want to after him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22472.0)
• What would you say to Satoshi Nakamoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13592.0)
• Do you really believe Satoshi is real??  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25764.0)

Most probably, Satoshi is watching Laughing and us.
Forget about Satoshi Nakamoto. Do you even know who is theymos? Just answer this if you know. Satoshi is laughing because he is thinking about poor people who don't even know who is theymos even though he is active and on the forum. I am not there anymore, and they are trying to figure out who is me. Where am I? LOL. One day, People will create a thread and ask about theymos.

I think he is still actively working on another project which we don't know what project it is. Besides, I don't think that satoshi is one person because, with so complete the bitcoin network and whatnot, I think the bitcoin project is a team project of several people. Maybe one of them will come back here or maybe none will come but they will keep an eye on the bitcoin network. I think it's better to let satoshi do his project and be in a hidden place without anyone knowing because it will be safer for him.

My personal theory is, he realized he is starting to become a target of attacks and therefore his best bet would be cutting all and every kind of communication and link of his life and identity to the Bitcoin project.

I look at my own behavior and sometimes, when I start feeling like I may have made a mistake or am becoming the target of a specific attack, I rather cut everything off than continue trying my best not to mistake again.  That is because, even if Satoshi may have been a very smart person or group of people who might have preserved their identity extremely well, the more they stayed on the forum the more likely it was that they would have made one or multiple small mistakes leading to the final reveal of their identity.

Another thought I am having is that he was subject to an attack by three letter agencies.  They surely hate Bitcoin now, they hated and were scared of the idea of Bitcoin back then.  And you surely know that, when you try to hide from your own government, you become a target.  I think Satohsi became a target and they at least found his identity one way or another so far.  I doubt there is no way, even if illegal and immoral, that a three letter agency would find the identity of someone.  Particularly considering they were using forums, e-mails and all of that, presumably at least partially through JavaScript which is full of flaws itself.  Whether they did anything to him or not, I do not know.  Maybe it was Finney, maybe he is still alive and three letter agencies are only making sure he is going to fail in anything Bitcoin-like that he may even think of creating.

Or, as a final thought of mine, maybe he is either dead or alive, he is still anonymous even in the eyes of three letter agencies and he just decided this project is going well enough that we do not need his help and thoughts anymore, so he just backed off.

Anyway, it does not matter now anymore honestly.  Would be great to hear he is doing well and all, but to Bitcoin it does not matter whether he is still dead or alive, wealthy or broke and whatever.  Bitcoin is still running strong, independently and fully decentralized no matter the status of a human.

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Since we don't know anything about Satoshi's real-life identity, I'd use 'they' (as an indefinite pronoun) instead of 'he' when talking about this person. It is possible that Satoshi is dead, and that would explain the lack of activity with the so-called Satoshi's coins. It's also possible that Satoshi continues to monitor the forum from time to time, just to see what's going on, from a different profile. It is also likely that Satoshi moved on completely onto something different. I hope this person is out there, enjoying life and feeling fulfilled.

I have in my mind 3 scenarios, of which 2 are bad and one is good.

1. He's in a prison (or worse) for whatever idiocy the agencies could set up, if they've caught him.
2. He's ill. Maybe had a stroke or an accident and doesn't remember much.
3. He has bought some bitcoin at under 1$ a piece long ago and now he's busy drinking margaritas. Maybe he even reads this forum now and then and smiling on us.

Bitcoin was actually a great invention Satoshi ever did and he deserves some rest, because if he finally comes back to the forum with same account, I think it will alter the anonymousity of Bitcoin, because I'm ok with the way it is now. But if he is actually still alive, am sure he will be happy the way it's invention has transformed lots of lives of many on and off the bitcointalk forum especially for those who bought Bitcoin at it's infant early stage and hodl it for the least 5 to 10yrs

Mining is actually a "business" of small margins, and to receive "decent income", you have to scale your mining operation by spending more on miners, spending more for electricity, and using it more efficiently than your competitors. This gives you a better probability of mining the next block. Plus ASICs was merely one pathway to mining Bitcoin more efficiency. It was unavoidable.

The fact that we are predicting satoshi is no different than we are discussing the future price of bitcoin, which is almost never-ending. He chose to remain completely anonymous so we should respect his decision.

Honestly, I like his decision to remain anonymous, it's like how bitcoin works today. promote user privacy.
We've always wanted to know satoshi's true identity, it's human curiosity but perhaps we're bothering him. So in my opinion, we should stop looking for him. That's the only thing we can do for him with the great legacy he left us.

He's having fun on Twitter.

Nobody knows this, but he. Satoshi was talking to mailing list prior the announcement of the very first release. Bitcoin.org was registered on August 2008 (https://who.is/whois/bitcoin.org), and released the binaries at about few months later. He, sure, took advantage of the lowest difficulty, but so did others.

If we somehow knew he was mining alone for the first x thousands blocks, we could make a safe assumption, but he wasn't.

Quite sure he is shorting Tesla and peeing in Elons mailbox  :)

For someone who has been on the forum for so long, you should know the person behind the name Satoshi better than what you wrote. Satoshi didn't invent Bitcoin to make himself rich, nor did he want people (most) to use it the way they do today. Bitcoin is therefore the only cryptocurrency that can be said not to have been created for reasons of personal profit of its inventor.


Faketoshi is digging deeper and deeper into the mud every day, and it doesn't take Satoshi to show up to prove that he's a fraud. Anyone who reads a few posts from Satoshi knows this - they are people who are so different that we don't need any special science to prove it.

You want Satoshi? This is the closest you can get to him -> https://archive.ph/Z1oB8

He will probably give up easily if he came with alternative account writing about Bitcoin the way he wrote about it in his days. I think he would be hated or ignored. There is also the possibility he won't understand Bitcoin anymore due to being brainwashed, and he could be shocked it was his invention. I notice the less time you spend discussing Bitcoin/crypto the dumber you become in things related to it.

How exactly would he make sure that everything is going the right way in terms of Bitcoin development, even if he has an alt account here? No single entity has such power in a decentralized system that everybody contributes to, especially one that has many independent developers and thousands of independent nodes all across the globe.

If he is not dead then maybe he is observing us all and maybe he will appear on the right time or when bitcoin is really in a critical condition like it's falling on a very low price like under 5 USD.

The reason why is because he wanted us to be calm but if the opposite thing happens like if the value of bitcoin is increasing up to a price where no one can imagine then I don't think he will do the same thing because number one; he is already proud of his creations and to the people that patronized it, and there's no need for him to say it in public. Number two is; he might be dead already when that time comes or maybe some us of here. That is why is better to enjoy than to keep on questioning.

We should be grateful for what Satoshi has invented because that what gives fortune to majority of us. He deserves to have his own break and live a life peacefully, out from spotlight. So wherever Satoshi right now, whatever he’s currently into, that’s already none of our business. After all, if he’s living in luxury right now, he all deserves that.

I guess Satoshi if is still alive, then he could be one of us, having in disguise. I think that’s also possible so he can always follow the progress of his invention. But seriously, Satoshi is maybe chillin out there, living the life he and his own family deserve, that is if he’s still widely alive. Otherwise, he may be resting in peace for long, no one knows exactly.

Lot of thread for the same have been seen around. Users always get more concerned and wants to see Satoshi. The real thing is that, even if real Satoshi goes next to you or crosses we cannot conclude he/she is Satoshi. Because, no one knows his identity to confirm. As majority of the users said, let him be peaceful where be is residing or located is not at all a big thing.

Probably, if he’s still alive, then he still follows his own invention and feel great about it. He never thought that bitcoin would be as valuable right now, thanks to Satoshi. Well, maybe just like an ordinary human being, he’s enjoying his personal life privately. And to think that he already reap what he sow, then he must be in luxury trips right now enjoying his big fortune.

I’m not 100% sure if Satoshi would be 100% proud of what he created.

He wanted to create a P2P payment system in a reaction towards the failing banks during 2008. Basically against their greed.

Never seen so much greed since crypto…

Ok there is more to it but there could be multiple reasons for him/her to stay undercover.

Don't be surprise satoshi could be among us smiling at how fast his selfless innovation and technology has changed the entire monetary system. I don't believe satoshi no matter what gender the name represents will sit back and abandon this beautiful technology. I believe satoshi dwells on the forum with a different identity with the aim that the network will grow anonymously for the betterment of Bitcoin both as a currency and as a network of nodes

I think it was Hal Finney, sure he may have gotten some help from some people when he was making it, so I always believed "satoshi nakamoto" wasn't just one person, it was mainly one guy, who got help from both previous similar works and also other people who were experts in their fields. But mainly the idea and execution could have come from Hal Finney who unfortunately passed away in 2014 august. Last ever message that was sent from Satoshi account was in 2014 march 7th, which was "I am not dorian" which was always disputed as well, could have been as old as 2011. But one thing is for sure, not a single message from Satoshi ever again since Hal passed away. So I am %99.99 sure that Satoshi is no longer with us.

Another thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto is still around, he/she could be still active on this forum for sure.
And another thing is if ever he still around, he/she probably already be on watch on other entity especially government that he/she is probably Satoshi Nakamoto, we will never know.

If I were in his position, I would rest at a certain beach, do what I like, spend more time with my family...Satoshi's decision to not appear anymore is a decision he has made, and we should respect his decision to do so. I think there is no need to dig too much into satoshi anymore. He accomplished his mission created bitcoin and now we should continue his work, focus on bitcoin more and find ways to contribute to bitcoin's mass adoption.

He might be, and it's because all our guesses on who he really is are all VERY WRONG, and far from the truth. I believe he might also be laughing because who he truly is should be very obvious to all of us regular forum users. The answer might have been under our noses for years and years, and we wouldn't even believe it if the truth was presented to us, simply and plainly. I have another guess, but I wouldn't say who it is.

Chillin like a villain. lmao I had to   8)

If satoshi was not dead, he would have been in front of public and telling that he is the one who invested bitcoin. But since he is dead, he is no more with us.

I would never believe anyone who developed such a digital currency like bitcoin would ever want to remain anonymous when he can be hero of the world if everyone's knows him.

I guess he might be living a simple life. He kept his personality private maybe because he wants to live in peace and harmony so I guess, he's living a simple yet providing his family's necessities because of Bitcoin. Well, we all have our own guesses since most of us are curious about him but wherever he is, it doesn't matter anymore because it's his personal choice to hide his identity from the public.

The idea is that he doesn't have a centralized power to do anything, but he does have a huge huge huge influence. Hell even Elon has enough influence to change the prices a bit for some reason, have absolutely no clue why he does, but we can't deny that he does have that influence.

If Elon could say "Tesla sold all bitcoins it had" and drop the price, then I can assure that if Satoshi was alive or around, and he comes around and says "bitcoin failed my dream" or whatever, then we are going to see a much much bigger fall. Of course it is not going to happen because if he declined to talk so far, I have no reason to believe that he would do that now. Dude could have become the richest person alive, and didn't do anything about it.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a name that created bitcoin history, without wanting any publicity for himself and remaining anonymous to this day. Whether there is satoshi or the creator of bitcoin today, bitcoin remains the origin of this forum and is the most valuable digital asset without being controlled or regulated by anyone.

Many claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, as the inventor of bitcoin, but do you believe all that? only fools believe, the real satoshi remains anonymous and it is possible that he is currently enjoying his life without needing to brag about being the inventor of bitcoin. Privacy becomes more important than self-popularity. most importantly bitcoin is for the benefit of everyone, with its technology changing the future of the world.

I hope Satoshi is doing well and enjoying his life the best he can. After all he deserves all the best for imagining, creating and delivering his invention to the world. I'm thankful for bitcoin and its existence in our living days.

It is a pleasure to be alive on these times, at the early days and years of bitcoin.

None of our business. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284102.0)


Bitcoin is much bigger than this forum nowadays.  In particular, most development work happens off-forum; there are some leading Bitcoin Core developers who don’t even have forum accounts, insofar as I am aware.  Satoshi could follow Bitcoin’s progress just fine, without ever even viewing this forum—unless, of course, he desires to read my posts.  :-)


To the contrary:  Satoshi Nakamoto is culturally forbidden from ever again using his own forum. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405317.0)

Maybe he/she/them decided to keep their self or isolate him/her/them selves for security reasons. Irrespective of that Satoshi has provided us with a lifetime saver, because Bitcoin has change so many things in this world, and has provided us with an alternative currencies that give us the control over our entire wealth.

I don’t think it would still matter to us as to what Satoshi is currently doing. If he’s still alive, then he must still be following the progress in bitcoin, because that’s what made him great in the first place. While enjoying a good life with his own family, Satoshi must be happy and at peace where he is right now because he has been a great inspiration to everyone, especially for those who know about the brighter future of bitcoin and has been benefiting from it for so long.

Let's be honest, is it really that the guy is resting or the guy doesn't stay even a second without getting worried about someone knocking on his door to say: " hahaha will I finally reveal your identity?". when the person lies and lives hiding some secret, the person hardly lives in peace, the person is always hiding from the world, he always doesn't sleep properly, he always has to do things that don't attract attention. the person has no peace. no matter how many years pass the person has no peace and this is the worst nightmare, most of the time the person even gets very sick and dies


With so many people chasing him, do you believe he is at peace? the guy lives in hiding, how can anyone have peace when thousands of people every day are investigating to know his identity?

If he is following the updates till now with an alt account which is highly unlikely, he would come revealed himself rather than monitoring everything behind closed doors. He chose to remain silent and as long as he wants to be in that space, there is no point in discussing about him coming back as the project has moved on in his absence for a decade and but i understand that the hunt for finding out the creator will never end ;D .

Whoever Satoshi might be, he will never leave the bitcoin space as long as he is alive. Satoshi is seriously into crypto (bitcoin especially). The difference is that he is not in this space as Satoshi but some other names you don't know. The internet  persona called Satoshi is the one chilling, the real Satoshi isn't chilling, he is probably doing what he is passionate about, i. e Bitcoin.

It is very rare to have a creation like Bitcoin and leave it totally. He withdrew the Satoshi factor for his safety and unnecessary panics, but Satoshi is with us.

What do you think he is doing? Eating, sleeping and working. I guess leading a normal life like every other human being in this world and is super rich.

It is very likely that he do sometimes visit the forum like very rarely and see what's going on and how things are progressing. I don't think he would make an alt account. I bet when he said he leaves it to the community, he really did and won't interfere in any way.

But still doesn't matter if he dead or alive (i mean I would be glad if he is alive lol), visiting the forum or not, has an alt account or not, it won't change anything.

If he is alive and has chosen to go, there is no reason for him to use another account to follow us. Well, it seems like there will never be an end to the hunt for him, so I hope he never returns to the forum or makes an appearance anywhere, because that puts him in grave danger.
13 years have passed he is still silent and bitcoin has gone through many ups and downs but in the end, bitcoin overcame them all. Once again, whether he is alive or not, I would like to express my deep gratitude to him.

Who knows Satoshi might be there somewhere and observing everyone? Or he is one among your friends. As no one has really known or seen who was Satoshi, or even Satoshi was a group of people or not, makes everyone curious.
Nevertheless we should allow him live his life peacefully, and enjoy his greatest invention.
I guess Satoshi had made a revolutionary change for which people will be always greatful to him.
We all are Satoshi Nakamoto  :)

Even if he's having a look on the forum from some alt account we can't know it because he knows how to maintain his anonymity so we don't need to worry about these things at all and live him wherever he is and use bitcoin with the normal routine.

Are you serious? He was gone when Gavin Andresen went to the CIA. Simply no. Satoshi made sure to have a few extra steps to hide his real identity. He probably changed the style he wrote code, talked to himself with different accounts in the forum, and changed his writing style. He would have also destroyed his own reputation.


Satoshi did.

It doesn't matter what Satoshi is doing now and everyone should just be happy that he blessed the world with the concept of the blockchain. Decentralized currency is a radical idea which still has many improvements to come, efforts should be spent on that rather than trying to track down an elusive founder who clearly doesn't have any interest in publicity for whatever reason. If they have not surfaced by now, it's highly likely that they will never surface again and frankly that adds to part of the charm. Somebody out their put the project infront of their own selfish desire to gain fame, which is surprisingly rare in the current age where everyone is desperately trying to become the next big D-list "celebrity".

:-(


Your conclusion (“nobody knows this”) is correct, but your line of reasoning is not.  Satoshi inserted into the coinbase of Block 0 the famous newspaper headline, “The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks”—a real headline about real-world events, from a real-world newspaper of which there are extant original hardcopies.  In the overall circumstance, this is strong evidence that Satoshi did not premine anything before 3 January 2009.

https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/1/1d/Jonny1000thetimes.png

Furthermore, Hal attested that he did some mining starting around “block 70-something” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0).  Thus, there were multiple known miners almost straight from the beginning—and the software was published and announced in well-known cryptography venues (starting with a mailing list that I myself used to subscribe to and read regularly), so anyone could have been mining anonymously.

But that is beside the point here.

The user who claimed that “we all know he has close to 1 Million of bitcoins” is spreading an urban legend.  I could excuse a newbie who just heard something dumb in the mass-media; but there is no excuse for a 2014-registered account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=334783) to be spreading this trash.  Nobody but Satoshi knows how many coins Satoshi mined.  There is a very large quantity of 2009-era coins apparently/probably from a unique source, the so-called “Patoshi” coins; the technical evidence suggests that they are probably not Satoshi’s, although nobody can prove that, either.

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Unfortunately, that is probably a popular belief.  People often project onto others their own desires to be a celebrity, like a movie star.  And this type of fallacious thinking opens the way for imposters like CSW:  Imposters exploit the widespread assumption that of course, if Satoshi is alive, he will reveal himself!  


Good point, but...

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png (https://xkcd.com/386/)

Hahaha. We may have different opinions on the matter, but I believe that someone is indeed wrong on the internet.

Another reason I believe why Satoshi would never ever reveal his real identity is, he might be working for a technology company when he was coding the first implementations of Bitcoin. Isn't there a law that says any software, or invention you develop while under employment in a company will automatically give the patents/rights of that software/invention to that company?

Watching movies

Exactly, not unless if he still sound familiar by using some technical words then people here can suspect that account very easy. Also anyone can still access the forum without needing to register or login to an account, so if someone is really conscious about his privacy then they can just browse the forum anonymously but yeah, why are we going to chase satoshi? What can we get after knowing his true identity?

I think that will only be a  waste of time for us. Bitcoin is not in trouble and even the price dumps a lot, I don't think the creator will care. What he know is that he already did his job and it's now up to us if how do we use his creation.

There’s no reason for Satoshi to come back since it won’t also do nothing to bitcoin. It’s better to see him having his own peace of mind being away from the spotlight. Well, if he’s still alive these days, most likely he’s also living a great life with a great family business. Bitcoin is a living proof that Satoshi has an exceptional way of thinking ideas, so might as well use it in his own advantage.

No, I agreed with what you had said before.  Please reread.

My perspective, trying to put myself in Satoshi’s shoes:  If I had created Bitcoin, I would be mortally terrified of being outed.  Maybe I would consider a digitally signed “deathbed confession”, or evidence released on a deadman’s switch, so that I could be remembered by history—or maybe not; why would it be important to be remembered by a so-called “real name”, instead of by a self-chosen pseudonym?  I guess that such a decision would probably depend on the details of Satoshi’s life; and even outing himself when dead may place his heirs at risk.  Anyway, I understand why Satoshi may want to preserve his privacy.


No.  To your question, absolutely not!  Do you suppose that an open-source patch contributed to some project by an employee off-the-job is always, in all cases automatically copyrighted by the employee’s $DAYJOB?

You seem to be thinking of the “works for hire” doctrine.  That generally applies only to works made within the scope of employment.  The details, extent, and limitations of this rule (or even whether it applies at all) vary wildly by jurisdiction.

I note that we have no idea where Satoshi was located at the time that he created Bitcoin, and any clues he left may be intentional disinformation of the type that I myself not infrequently sow.  (His apparently Japanese name, his use of a British newspaper headline in Block 0, his alternation of British and American spelling—even “his” use of an apparently masculine pseudonym and online persona.)

As a precondition of employment, some employers require an employee’s agreement to an employment contract that greatly extends the scope of what “intellectual property” the employer can claim as theirs.  Some jurisdictions have laws limiting such contracts.  This is a very complicated area of the law.

Nothing that I say here should be construed as legal advice.  I only seek hereby to show that the broad-brush statement quoted above is incorrect on its face.  I would not want inadvertently to FUD Bitcoin’s status in this regard.

You won’t believe this and ignore and move on. But he did a complete back flip from BTC, He started a business in the Phillipines called Tagcash. Seek and ye shall find the evidence.

This can be the only reason that ^almosteveryone refers to Satoshi as "him".
I find it curious when people point out the obvious in that the identity of Satoshi is unknown
but yet continue to assume it as him, I know its more than likely something that happens automatically ↓


Satoshi could indeed still be active on this forum and the first place Satoshi would have gone
back to and could still be active in is the "Development and Technical Discussion" board!

But yea until officially discounted anything is possible.

I remembered a story about Steve Wozniak, who invented the Apple 1 while he was under the employment of HP. Before Steve Jobs, and him can start Apple, Steve Wozniak was required to have the permission of HP to be given the absolute rights to start building the Apple 1.

It might be good to have a lawyer to clarify it for us, or a Bitcoin developer who knows something about Intellectual Property.

I'm just having shower thoughts that what if Satoshi worked for a Fintech company?

breathing, walking, talking, sitting, standing, sleeping.

if not dead then breathing is essential and something he definitely doing all the time
as for the rest, well thats speculation, he might be doing some of them all the time, all of them some of the time, able to do all or some, no one here knows, nor should need to know


just to read/look at progress. anyone can do that without 'getting involved' its called open source for a reason
just open a web browser and all the information is there. no need to get involved just to read/look at progress

now your entering the speculation zone. he didnt need an alt account. people can read posts and github code without accounts

ICorrect, it's not important to know what he's doing. If he doesn't want to come out in public, no problem. We should give them a rest.  Bitcoin is important, not what he's doing. There are many reasons for not coming out, it is said that he is a great inventor, if he does come out he might be forced to do something wrong, There are many dishonest people around us, it is not impossible to be forced by them. not sure just my opinion.

Well, all we have is probabilities for this, as we don't know for sure.

Given that the vast majority of people involved in tech are men, and that the vast majority of people involved in Bitcoin in the early days were men, then it follows that most probably Satoshi was/is a man.

Of course it can be a woman, but that would be unlikely.

Why he still hiding?

Monitoring us? maybe he is one of those posting here that has deeper knowledge about Bitcoin and its functions ? who really knows?

if he is truly alive then surely he will never let down this market and will keep doing what would be the better for everyone .

also maybe he remains silent because in that way? bitcoin made its way up to this because if there is a continues updating from him then maybe the government already took over this place.

He's probably playing chees on his Bengal tiger on his BTC-built compound on Mars. JK. Everything stated is under the assumption that it's one person, and it might be a collective. A collective of cryptographers and hackers that wanted to do something different. And if you know anything about that generation of hackers is that they probably wouldn't live extraordinary lifestyles (cashing all of their BTC) because they just did it as an experiment and for the love of it.

I do not know the situation of which you speak; but merely from your description, that sounds like it could have been a non-compete clause.  And more generally, as I gently implied in my prior post, some employees have ridiculously weird contracts with their employers.

I am quite confident that there is no such thing as a “law” in every potentially relevant jurisdiction “automatically” giving employers some sort of “intellectual property” rights to all of their employees’ off-the-job creations.  (And if there were such a thing, then the open-source software movement would be a practical impossibility!)


Why speculate on something which is likely irrelevant, for which there is no evidence?

Op just made he or her opinion by emphasising that Satoshi is dead, so from the basic information content their is no vlear evidence that indicates that Satoshi Nakamoto is no more in existence. I believe that if Satoshi is no more few members of this noble institution would have be known. Maybe i think saying that Bitcoin is dead is just is applicable by someone who said that Satoshi is no more

I'm very sure that if Satoshi should resurface and prove that he is alive, a lot of things are going to happen which will not end well for everyone in the market, have you noticed that anytime an old wallet addresses that were last active in 10 years back spend a single bitcoin, traders began to speculate and sell or close their position because they fear that he(satoshi) will dump his bags on them to gain access to the liquidity.
Another reason why I think satoshi might want to remain anonymous could also be because the government will want him, they will want to hear a lot of answers, it is better things remain like this, not as if he did bitcoin alone, there has been lots of improvement since he was last seen online.

If Satoshi is still alive right now, probably he’s very proud of his own investment that is giving a lot of opportunities to create profits for everyone. He must be peacefully living with his grandkids these days or he must be somewhere in a luxury place chilling with his loved ones. Or maybe, he is also busy managing his own business because we know he has a brilliant mind from the start.

Who the heck knows really. If I had to guess, I think they are likely lurking around on this forum from time to time and are likely working on another new project. Perhaps something having to do with smart contracts (something Satoshi refers to in his escrow thread). Either way, thank you Satoshi regardless of whatever you’re doing !

I wonder if that will happen to bitcoin in the future. LOL
We're just assuming, if satoshi was alive, he would laugh at how worried we are about his life status out there with his bag full of bitcoin. Some developers are happy to have him back, but neither for investors or traders.

Obviously, he's going to be interrogated for days somewhere just because the government wants to get a way to make bitcoin centralized.

Do you think he is dead already?
I'm sure Satoshi should have a plan for the worst situation in his life. He is the creator of BTC, he must think that he will die someday and he probably makes a plan to give access to those BTC to someone trusted by him. But he must give the message that never spends the Bitcoin until Bitcoin reaches its goal.

Regarding Craig, I think Satoshi doesn't care about him. Satoshi doesn't need to destroy Craig, Craig destroys himself.  ;)

Nobody has any idea if he is still alive or not. If he is still alive, he is probably surprised as to how his small idea has managed to capture the attention of people all over the globe.

There are many who can use such technical words understanding about the working of bitcoin and you can see some high rank technical members have full knowledge about them so it's hard to judge from words or writing style but what is the need of all this? He wish to remain silent and leave the space on his own or due to some other reasons but bitcoin is still the same in his absence also so why we are always running behind these matters?

Yeah, I agree.

I can understand some level of curiosity, specially for new people, but some are just obsessed with this.

Bitcoin is way larger than its creator, it doesn't really matter if Satoshi is alive or dead, or if he suddenly reappears. Bitcoin has had a life on it's own for more than a decade now.

I wonder why there are no people obsessed to know about the inventor of email, TCP-IP, or any other protocol we use daily now.

I like to think Satoshi is alive. He put the 1MB block size limit, which made Bitcoin ultra-secure. I believe he didn’t realize at the time what this meant, but once he saw it, he decided to leave the core principles of Bitcoin alone.

This is why his wallet hasn’t been touched. Satoshi knows that Bitcoin is the greatest store of value in the history of mankind. Why would he trade his Bitcoin for fiat dollars?

I like to think he is still working to make Bitcoin better. He now uses his real name, and nobody knows that he is Satoshi. There are many reasons why he would want to keep his identity a secret. Mostly because it would make Bitcoin feel less decentralized (although there is absolutely no way to stop it’s decentralization at this point). This was the main downfall of all the internet money that came before Bitcoin. Adam Back talks about this in his interview with Robert Breedlove.

I hope Satoshi is making billions of dollars, and has no need to sell his Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the strongest property right humans beings have ever obtained.

I honestly don’t care what’s he’s doing with his time and I wish people would let him be. If he wanted to be known and recognized, he would have done that already but he has decided to remain anonymous and I think we should respect his wishes. Personally, I think that his anonymity has helped to grow and sustain bitcoin in a way.
I’m honestly glad for his innovations that has helped millions of people(i included)around the world today and if he chooses to remain anonymous( as he clearly has) then, I think we should let him be and not float baseless speculations everywhere

If he is really just one person, he will not be able to forget his masterwork. He will be with it every day, in his own way. He will have more accounts, which is what rich people do to have more peace in life. For those who need attention, they use social media. He will be very smart and not take advantage of his authority, when he will, he would have done it already. All this is possible, when he is still alive.

Just understand it mate and either way it's just the same because I'm quite certain that you also don't have a piece of information or evidence to prove that Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive. I mean, we don't even know that the name SN is just a single person who created bitcoin because there's some chances too that there is a group of people behind that name.

To me, who he is or who is he does not matter. What really matters is whether he's still alive or dead, he left a legacy to be remembered for and for sure posterity will be fair to him. He deserves to rest by the way 🙌

This is true. I wonder what else he could do in his lifetime! Then again, You create only one masterpiece in your life. I may be wrong about what they call it, but maybe it's the 7th symphony. He created that, and now he doesn't need to make anymore. His life is a success.

I have no doubt they must visit this forum from time to time. They must wonder what is going on but I think their work is done and I think they are not working on any other project because what they launched in Bitcoin has kickstarted a whole new ecosystem.

We don't know whether satoshi is still alive or not right now, but what is certain is that we should be grateful and say thanks because he has created a work that is quite extraordinary for we, starting from an idea,satoshi has succeeded in making it easier for all of us, even our children and grandchildren later to do financial transactions with just one touch on the cellphone or pc screen, the breakthroughs made by satoshi have provided many benefits for the development of the world in the current era of digital modernization, but one thing that makes me most curious at this time, is whether satoshi still saves all the bitcoins he has so far and if so, is it possible that he is one of the richest people in the world today?

There ARE laws that prevent it, but it is in a contract and then breach of contract happens if that is the case. Meaning, if you are working on something at company grounds and there is a line in your contract with your employer saying that all things you do at work, will be belong to that company then yes that means it will be belonging to the work place.

This isn't a law that says "you have to give the rights to the company", it is a law that says "if you have a contract saying this to your company then you have to follow your contract". So, if there isn't a thing like that in a contract, then you are off the hook but I highly doubt this would be valid in an open-source no patent stuff you are not getting paid anyway.

I agree they he/she must lurk this forum from time to time out of curiosity and because he/she may like to see how his/her project is going, on the other hand, I personally believe she/he must be using some of their money she/he earned with Bitcoin to live a comfortable life while continues to work on projects related to cybersecurity or cryptography.

Of course that is just speculation on my part, for some reason there are people who even suggest Satoshi might be dead for some reason.

This is a hypothetical question where you do not need to know exactly what happens, we shouldn't really consider this as something that would be real or not, we should take it as a real thing and consider him not dead and then try to make answers to this question.

Saying that he isn't dead or saying he is, doesn't have anything to do with this question because OP wondered what would he be doing if he is alive right now and we are planning on a talk like that. Saying like what would Prince or MJ or Kobe would be doing today if they weren't alive, we know they are, that's not the point of the question. Hence, I think the best answer is the same; he would stay out for sure.

I think the same, since if Satoshi really wanted to start something new, like a better decentralized currency he could use his name in the community to easily promote his project and make it an instant success. Since that never happened I think he is likely retired. Also there were many clues that he is not a jung person but was already rather old (50+ years) when he started to develop bitcoin.

After creating such tremendous legacy, it’s alright for him to just lay back and enjoy things play out from the sidelines.

Retiring from bitcoin doesn't seem like a safe option for him if he's really still alive. He could have been an investor who bought and became an early adopter of bitcoin in large numbers even though he had to spend a little money on it. I think he could also develop a mining business somewhere since bitcoin was introduced, so he doesn't need to have a more decentralized coin project if it's about money and luxury living.

To paint it clear and neat Satoshi does not leave bitcoin neither does leave the forum but rather has been inactive for a while here on the forum.


You should be less concerned about that since we are all seing the reflection of his past and present efforts, it will do more good if someone like you could also sit back in developing yourself and be be noised abroad.


That couldld be his choice and I will always respect his ever decision made, because first impression last longer.

Im in this forum for around 10 years now and at least once a month you can see a thread where people discuss about satoshi. To me it is fascinating that never somebody had the idea (at least I never saw that) that there is a good chance that he is still here and simply doesn't use his original account anymore. If you are not interested in this than I don't understand your comment on this topic.

If he is still alive, but since he has chosen to remain silent and anonymous, we should respect his decision. It's been over 13 years and he's still silent, he must have a reason to do it. It would be better for us to not speculate about him, gossip about him, this is no different from bothering him.
Bitcoin is doing great without him and I think it's better for him not to show up, since it would be good for both him and bitcoin.

For me I think Satoshi still visit the forum I mean if you were the creator wouldn't you be curious about how it is?
But if he/she or they aren't into crypto anymore I think they would be busy with another project who knows maybe we would hear from Satoshi again someday, but not about Bitcoin and it could be the project that he/she or they have been working on after leaving Bitcoin behind.

I am pretty sure he is enjoying life somewhere far away in a remote sunny place with good food and drinks. There is nothing left for him to proof to us, so he can sit back and enjoy watching the show. Satoshi gave us one of the biggest ideas of the 21st century that got accepted by the world and grew into the most successful crypto currency. An alt account here on the forum could be the case, but what is left for him to engage with the community? Maybe he likes to make new topics about himself and create more mystery with it  :D I do think there are some people from the good old days of bitcoins who know Satoshi and keep him informed about all the new things happening in the scene. It's such a long time now since the creation of Bitcoin that Satoshi must have a big family by now and different priorities.