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With PoS coming and Gas fee finally getting fixed do you think that Ethereum is capable of overtaking bitcoin? Oh also there will be max supply for Ethereum finally too, or is this expectation of mine way too high.

I don’t think Eth can takeover BTC. I mean , I have often seen people claiming that using of ETH is more complicated due to it’s separate blockchain and smart contracts etc. On the other hand BTC is as simple as that.
We can also compare BTC and ETH popularities and marketcap. These shows how more people are attracted towards BTC.
Moreover BTC are limited in supply, this drives more people crazy about Bitcoins and hence they are fond of storing or buying more BTC than ETH.
So I don’t think OP, it never gonna happen.

I don't see ethereum taking over bitcoin. They are actually two different projects with different use case. Bitcoin has its purpose to serve which is a means of exchange and settlement of debt, ethereum on the other hand has a use case for providing smart contracts and it has been great at it.

I think converting Ethereum PoW to PoS will not work well for the future, because we know that Ethereum can be priced at $1000 like it is now because Ethereum is a lot of people like it,
one of the advantages of Ethereum is mining and it is already being mined all over the world,
if Ethereum switch to PoS, then what happens to the miners?

i didn’t think Ethereum can takeover Bitcoin in any way. it can possible for eth to increase there position and gain more Market cap but is totally impossible for eth to overtake bitcoin price or bitcoin marketcap .

Well at the moment the marketcap of Bitcoin is "only" a little more than twice the amount of the marketcap of Ethereum, so i don't see a reason why Ethereum should not be able to get the top position from Bitcoin sometime in the not so distant future. That being said, i still think that it won't happen in the next 1 or 2 years and also that it won't happen automatically. Even in this forum there are still a lot of Bitcoin hardcore fans that are saying that every coin besides bitcoin is a sh*itcoin but i think those people slowly but surely become less. If we just take a look at the functionality then of course Ethereum is already king.

I have never thought that ethereum has any chance at all of surpassing bitcoin but if anything the transition to PoS makes this definitive, on the surface PoS may seem to be a good option but when you really read about it PoW will always be a better option, and that is of course assuming that everything goes smoothly and ethereum can do so without showing any major issues, because if that happens we could see the price of ethereum going down instead.

It might happen as Eth is widely used on a lot of platforms these days so more & more people know about Eth. However, as it's using a different system with BTC, and I believe that PoW is a better option too. So.. will see...

Maybe switching to POS could increase the marketcap for ETH but I feel like bitcoin can never be replaced, bitcoin has been the king of all cryptocurrencies for a long time. although later ETH will have a limited amount of supply but bitcoin has already set the supply amount long before ETH was created.

It all depends on the merge. If it goes well and according to plan then yes ETH can become deflationary and therefore increase in value, another scenario you should keep an eye on is what if the merge didn't go as planned and "unexpected" problems happen? Will it be the end of ETH, and potentially a huge blow to the crypto market as a whole? Only time will tell..

For me, this is impossible. This is already proven over time, even when Ethereum first started, most of the time Ethereum is always the number two highest market cap cryptocurrency.
About the upcoming update of Ethereum, Ethereum 2.0, you cannot guarantee that will be the key for Ethereum to become number 1.

Maybe in some aspects, Ethereum will number 1, just like the total transactions, transaction fees, etc.
You can track it here too: https://www.blockchaincenter.net/en/flippening/

I'm pretty sure that ethereum won't beat bitcoin, even when all of its current flaws have been fixed. other than that, I'm also sure that most of the answers from this are the same as mine. however, that's because currently ethereum is also still following bitcoin. the price of ethereum also depends on the movement of bitcoin, and that makes bitcoin the king of crypto. IMO, ethereum will be king for altcoins, but won't be able to beat bitcoin even though nothing is impossible in crypto world.

A lot of people are saying this. The term "flippening" has been widespread across social media because of the several upgrades of Ethereum and its shift into PoS. But I don't really believe that Ethereum will be able to overtake Bitcoin. All these new upgrades of Ethereum will probably just make it a lot stronger especially compared to the rest of the altcoin market which are mostly made up of lower quality projects. But we'll never know for sure. My personal take is that it will not overtake Bitcoin but the gap will greatly be reduced.

If this means anything, I guess it's a good time now to also stack ETH.

Take over in what way? market? adoption? price? or investors? NO
Bitcoin has something that ETH does not have, the advantage of Bitcoin is not only supply or scarcity, but a more acceptable global level without sole proprietorships, companies, and also one blockchain does not have roots everywhere. Personally I don't think Ethereum can have that place.

It's capable even if POS was not coming and ethereum would always be capably to over taking bitcoin. Your expectation was not too high. Ethereum has ever overtaken bitcoin a few years ago but if bitcoin mining become even harder and i think that would be quite difficult for ethereum to over take bitcoin. The key was not post but how to prevent the inflation that happened in ethereum and bitcoin. That means if ethereum was getting fixed on its inflation and bitcoin was also doing it.
I shall remind you that if bitcoin also also becom deflationary assets which lead if the total supply can be less and less.

Let's make a quick math.
With the current marketcap of Bitcoin, divide it by the current circulating supply of Ethereum, you will get $3,709.73 so in order for Ethereum to be higher than Bitcoin in terms of market cap, Ethereum's price must be higher than $3,709. Do you expect Ethereum to jump more than twice just because it converts from a POW to POS?

Let's be realistic. It will not happen and I believe it will never happen. Ethereum's price movement is still depends on how Bitcoin moves so don't think that Ethereum will take over Bitcoin just because of one single update. There is no guarantee as well that Ethereum's price will jump after the update/s.

There are some aspects where Ethereum is better than Bitcoin and vice-versa but in terms of market cap, no one can take over Bitcoin.

This was discussed for many years. And there was a time in the past before the Segwit fork that ETH came very close to surpassing Bitcoin market cap, however it never actually surpassed. Because Bitcoin agrees to activate the Segwit fork.

Will it surpass sometime in the future? Who knows. It might or might not. Right now there is too much uncertainty especially with the merge fork. And there are always tons of bugs that needs to be worked out.

It's possible, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon, a lot of new projects on the ethereum network are mainnetting and having their own blockchain.
the market cap will eventually decrease and in contrast to Bitcoin, Bitcoin has a large market cap, more than 50% and that's a large capital

It's possible but the thing that makes it quite impossible is you didn't think that once ethereum was going up and then bitcoin will be doing the same thing as well. Let's say that once ethereum will be increasing even faster than bitcoin just like 50% but bitcoin can also did 30% - 40% increase.
that means the possibility for ethereum to surpass bitcoin is always there but it may become the most difficult task for ethereum.
Merged and burn mechanism will not make ethereum instantly surpassing bitcoin in a few months or quarter.

I personally believe that Bitcoin will have a long and good future ahead of it and I think it is important to take a long term view. In the long term, Ethereum seems to be in a good position to grow and develop after BTC, Ethereum being one of them https://imgur.com/a/jEvmL6B from the data may be able to describe how the potential in the future.

I can say this is impossible, with PoS data, fixed Gas costs and maximum supply there is also no possibility that Etheruem will overtake bitcoin, Bitcoin and Ethereum user cases are quite different, overtaking you mean whether it relates to price, coin strength or number of users to usage one of them, because the price difference for the two coins is currently quite far, so price overtaking is not possible for now

A coin becomes more centralized and controlled by exchanges, sharks...I don't think it will take over bitcoin. ETH is an altcoin that has the same POW algorithm as bitcoin and is considered the most decentralized altcoins. The upgrade to POS is a positive for the ETH blockchain in terms of gas fees and network scalability, but it will be a major downside to becoming centralized, going against the cryptocurrency's slogan of decentralization.

that means bitcoin is still ahead and still the first. bitcoin affects all altcoins including ETH although eth is experiencing significant development. with ethereum 2.0 will certainly improve the ethereum blockchain which aims to increase the speed, efficiency and scalability of the ethereum network, so that it can process more transactions and reduce network congestion, this also makes fees cheaper.

But remember that Bitcoin also has a Lightning Network and of course it will be faster in processing transactions and the fees are very cheap. Bitcoin is still king and still irreplaceable.

Your expectation is too high. I believe in Ethereum too but not going too far as taking over the King BTC.
What will happen is, we will see the difference in POS and POW mechanism. Maybe this will be a good learning point for new investors and users of cryptocurrencies to compare the top coins in the market.
Although, I still believe Bitcoin will be the first choice. Just the mere fact of how the market reacts whenever it is being pumped or dumped is the reason why.

If bitcoin will fail in the near future then possible eth will take over but looks this not gonna happen btc has the most secured network in crypto, If I were to ask to choose on this two coins I still choose the king Bitcoin, no explanation.

Maybe, anything's possible.
In the current market the value of all coins is speculative. Cryptocurrency and bitcoin is yet to reach a point where its usefulness will be ubiquitous. And when that happens, technology will surpass speculation(opposite of the current valuation). Only in that future, ETH can become more valuable than bitcoin. Emphasis on "may", because ETH is on a very dark path of centralization and Vitalik treats ETH as his creation with full control over it.

Hopefully BTC L2 network will shine in that future  :)  

A truly decentralized payment network independent from banks and government which is capable of handling millions of transactions at any moment will win.
Again, it may or may not be BTC itself or ETH or some other genius creation that will solve the blockchain trilemma  :D

And the main thing about bitcoin is it is decentralized, as compare to ethereum that is becoming centralized like every iteration they released. There are still a lot of consensus on ethereum in this community, it's pretty obvious. But I highly doubt that there will be a time that ethereum will become more recognizable against bitcoin in terms of it's popularity, hence the price flipping. Bitcoin has put some separation from the rest of the crypto and I think it will remain like that in the next decade of so.

Bitcoin still remain as number one coin in the cryptocurrency market industries, which can't be compared with Ethereum. Every Alt-coin are created in difference purpose, which Bitcoin is superior to other Alt-coin in the cryptocurrency market.

I don't think it's possible. Bitcoin is unbeatable and unstoppable. There is no rival at bitcoin's height. If you want to compare ethereum to something it should be binance coin, then it will be a more proportional clash.

On the other hand, without any doubts ethereum hasn't reached its full potential yet. There is a lot to grow in the near future. The fact is that bitcoin also has a lot to rise too. It means both of them will gain value, but keeping the same distance from each other.

I believe it doesn't matter if you trust more btc or eth, since you believe at least one of them. Personally I would heavily stick with bitcoin, though.

If you ask me that question, I would say that your expectation is too high. I think Etherium never can take over btc and I also think Ethereum can be replaced by someone else. Currently, if Ethereum would  take over Bitcoin, it price have to be increase about   13.73x.  I also think for the dominance of bitcoin it also not possible on future.
I would like to say that as gold and silver can never be one and also silver can never take over gold, just like Etherium can never take over bitcoin.  That because they each have specific purposes and features

No.

Every time we see an update from Ethereum or any other top cryptocurrency, there's always this thinking and question if it's possible to replace bitcoin as the top crypto in the market. Let's say that there are valid arguments talking about obsolete technologies being left behind and they're comparing it to bitcoin. But if we look at the fundamentals and usability of it, bitcoin is far from being obsolete so let's stop thinking about it that it is going to be replaced.

Yep I do agree with you I know eth is be super crazy right know but remember that eth is infinite supply even they have smart burning mechanism too.

and not just that bitcoin have segwit address that drive fee cheapest and have lightning network that might be adopt by big exchange and fast too

If we look the two main differences between Ethereum and Bitcoin are fees and scaling. I honestly think the answer to this question will depend a lot on what happens to Ethereum's initial coin offering model and its chain splitting into several competing cryptocurrencies. If the current state of innovation creeps into the mining model, I see Ethereum being able to overtake Bitcoin prices at some modest point and even then I'm not wrong, and for Ethereum itself right now it could work wonders to change the crypto world going forward for the better.

PoS and Gas Fee? Nope, I'd never weigh these things as a reason for ETH to dethrone Bitcoin, not a single chance.
I guess you need to analyze the market so well. In fact, as you can see altcoins are still reliant on Bitcoin, it dominates the market since the beginning, and to think it will change someday, I would say NO.

Investors are much preferred to invest in Bitcoin and even these newcomers. ETH has its own purpose and a market role which is different from Bitcoin. Tried to consider that ETH is not competing with Bitcoin and it remains in the 2nd rank next to it.

I think it's still impossible to replace bitcoin's position. Bitcoin is the main thing when we get to know other coins and all cryptocurrency community has always believed in bitcoin. But you don't have to be sad if you invest in ethereum. ethereum is also not inferior in utility to bitcoin, ethereum can be said to be the coin of the future because of its many uses.

ETH is soon to go to proof of stake so that will be [pretty interesting to see what happens after the transition - as ETH blockchain is getting more and more popular as it is easier to use maybe we will see a big transition of crypto users? We will have to wait and see a few more months we guess.

At the moment, Ethereum will not be able to overtake Bitcoin. Even for a very simple reason. Bitcoin was one of the first coins on the cryptocurrency market. And now this coin is one of the most important. Since the Bitcoin coin is a great source of income for many users, and crypto enthusiasts showed the greatest interest in it, who doubled their income by 1000 times. And now no one wants to lose their money. And now Bitcoin will always be the most promising coin.

Currently bitcoin is still dominant in terms of market capitalization, if bitcoin fails then everything will collapse, there is no chance for any coin including ETH. But it's almost impossible, ETH is really a good altcoin but looking at the past 10 years it's always been in 2nd place, never been able to overtake btc from market cap to adoption widely accepted.

Even in the future, it is impossible for Ethereum to take over Bitcoin in terms of market cap and popularity. Since bitcoin is the first crypto currency, with no active owner and limited supply will always make it stand out among all other cryptocurrencies including Ethereum.
Bitcoin is truly decentralized.

No one can predict exactly whether it will happen or not, but considering bitcoin took several years to reach its peak price. Ethereum hasn't even hit the 10k threshold yet, it's hard for me to imagine that kind of growth spurt.
bitcoin or ethereum have never been in the ranking of direct competitors, and bitcoin is understood as a payment system, whereas using tokens to implement smart contracts.
and if we talk about market cap, popularity and also can store value no doubt, bitcoin is still the king of crypto.

That's a question many people have asked several times over the decade and the answer is quite simple.
For the time being ETH cannot over take BTC in terms of price and marketcap.
But we don't know about the future so "may be" if things go in the favor of ethereum then there are some chances for it to over take BTC.

For the next few years, there is no possibility that Ethereum can replace Bitcoin, if you look at the buy and sell prices, the two coins are very different, not to mention the development pattern and strength of the two coins, they may overtake the number of users, not in terms of price or stability.
This is something that is unlikely to be done in the near future, because people's belief in the two coins has different understandings

I didn’t believe it can happen . bitcoin is World first cryptocurrency and must trusted . many people now hold btc as a strong assets . so i mean it is not possible for eth to overtake bitcoin. in the next couple of years btc will increase marketcap and price also . so eth will not able to overtake btc in any way

Ethereum will never be able to overtake Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is the king of all coins in the cryptocurrency market.The value of Ethereum and the value of Bitcoin are many paths. Bitcoin is also continuously increasing.Even if bitcoin goes down, ethereum won't increase to bitcoin.Bitcoin is not that easy to capture and is not likely to be in the future. Bitcoin and Ethereum are two coins in a different position, they are more and more different.Both coins are good but therefore Ethereum will never replace Bitcoin.

For starters, you would have to specify what parameter we are comparing by in order to talk about whether it can eth overtake btc. Since you haven’t specified this, I’ll go through the values that come to my mind in order.

Price and total capitalization - I see no reason for eth to dominate over btc here.
The number and price of transactions - I assume that with a decrease in gas fee, the number of transactions in eth network will exceed the same parameter in btc network due to cheapness.

Some popular YouTubers are saying the same thing, Ethereum is going to beat BTC only in returns not over ranking, just because ETH is going PoS and this upgrade will introduce cheaper transaction fee doesn't mean it will defect Bitcoin, to me its near impossible.

It will be hard for Ethereum to reach the milestones and achievements that Bitcoin has reached. There were already lots of coins that attempted to beat Bitcoin but none of them succeed. Bitcoin is the most trusted coin and we can't deny the fact that most investors prefer buying it over other coins. That's also the reason why it's always on top. Ethereum has a very huge potential yet still has a lot to prove.

Even if Ethereum is soon to adopt improvements on its own network, but i always believe that bitcoin will stay dominating the whole crypto market system. Aside from the fact that bitcoin is the most secured crypto asset, its value is quite more tempting than the rest of the coins in the market. So even if ethereum issues will finally be resolved and people will find it now affordable, bitcoin will always gain the spotlight in the market and will always be the people's most favorite coin to invest.

I'm still wondering how possible will ethereum overtake bitcoin, comparing the price of bitcoin and ethereum,  bitcoin price is much higher than ethereum by far. Comparing the demand of bitcoin and ethereum, bitcoin has much demand so I don't know how ethereum can possibly over take bitcoin.

I think in tes of how high eth could gain on bitcoin we already saw that high.  Next bullrun I think bitcoin lengthens the bitcoin dominance number.  Too many real competitors for eth now, when in the past there wasn't any good viable ones.

Did they say that gas fees will now be fixed and lowered after the update? I haven't seen that. Maybe this was the same as last updates they had. They only gave people a false hope but if let say fees are now going to be normalized, I still don't think that eth can overcome bitcoin because if it's possible then it already happened before when the fees in eth are still very cheap. Eth is a good coin but fees is the main issue on why many won't use the coin now.

Another thing to expect is you said the supply of eth is now going to be fixed just like in btc? Well that's cool and that's a game changer for eth but sorry ill still stick to my vote. Btc is still the beast.

everyone has the right to have high expectations. but one thing we must remember that no one will be able to take over the position of bitcoin. although ethereum will release 2.0 with all the advantages but it will not rule out the possibility that ethereum will replace bitcoin's position.
we all here also know that the first crypto was bitcoin and all have acknowledged it.
however, it is possible that ethereum will be the second best coin after bitcoin and maybe its price will be half of the price of bitcoin

I don't think ETH can take over BTC.  I even think ETH will move down from the top 2 and be overtaken by more worthy altcoin.  The merge removes miners that which is the foundation of valuation of ETH.  As the mining requirement for a new coin of ETH become cheaper, the price of ETH will definitely become cheaper.  That may be the possible setback of making ETH POS, of course, ETH will experience a price increase during the implementation of the merge but eventually, I believe the price will find its place for ETH.

No one knows if ETH would able to manage on overtaking BTC in terms of overall marketcap and dominance in the market but to know that btc is the king of crypto then it would really be that hard to believe that

it could happen easily considering the community that mainly supports bitcoin is vast and big which it would really be hard that it would really be getting lesser support once ETH would becoming POS nor does fix
its gas fee issue.
I could say that it is really a very big improvement for ETH but i dont think that this would really be enough for it to replace bitcoin into its throne but well everything is a possibility
but this is something hard or almost impossible to happen though.

It's too difficult for bitcoin to be replaced by ethereum to become the number 1 coin, bitcoin has become the destiny of all investors who believe in bitcoin and because no one can control bitcoin, I believe it. and not the reason ethereum will migrate to ethereum 2.0 at a cost will be cheap and will quickly replace bitcoin, the question is not strong enough to knock down bitcoin

That's right! Beating BTC is almost impossible, look at the BTC market cap that is dominating them all and the gap is too far. If ETH goes up, BTC will not stand still, and we should not forget that the market only rises and grows as bitcoin goes up. ETH is about to move to POS remains a question mark for the future of this leading altcoins. It has not yet been confirmed that the upgrade will make it stronger, and there are varying opinions regarding it.

OP is asking a question that he already knows the answer to, he knows that the question of BTC and ETH is not just limited to price and transaction fee and the question of which currency has more features. Bitcoin is something decentralized, it has an anonymous creator so people feel more secure that when they buy bitcoin they can sleep peacefully that the next day they will not be surprised by things like: " the creator of bitcoin said he no longer believes in the project so he will sell all coins that have ", with bitcoin you don't have this thing, but in the case of ETH and all altcoins have this dark side and that's scary

eth so far has always been heavily influenced by btc, so i doubt it could ever take over btc in the future.
there's always chance for eth to take over, though so far btc has always succesfully increase its dominance whenever there is rally coming for btc.
meanwhile eth always fight with other smart contract coin & alts in general like BNB.

Well, of all the altcoins in the market ETH is the closest to BTC, yet still way too far against BTC. No matter how much improvement they bring with their project, Btc cannot be dethroned. Simply because majority of crypto in the market paired their value with Bitcoin. Also, most people do trust Bitcoin than any other alts in the market in a long term aspect.

What will happen to Ethereum if Vitalik Buterin announces his departure from the project, it will not cause eth to die completely but it will be a huge storm for eth, possibly sending eth into free fall.

What we love most about bitcoin remains its completely decentralized nature, something that even no other coin on the market can do. It's really impossible for ETH to take over btc.

Maybe your expectations are just too high OP that you forget to weigh things right. First, bitcoin will always be the future of the crypto market, and that everything around goes to rely with bitcoin. Next, bitcoin is always has the highest value and so has the most valuable returns, so its always the people's best choice for investment. Although ethereum has its own bright future in the market because of its own high utility cases, but it will never reach to the point of overtaking bitcoin no matter how its network will be improved soon.

There's no way ETH could overtake the almighty Bitcoin. No matter if the features have been upgraded or improved from PoW to PoS, market cap, trading volume, etc., it's still treated as an altcoin (I mean a top altcoin) and will forever be behind Bitcoin (unless XRP might make moves like the last time it overtakes ETH a few times).

I'm sure that ETH with its PoS and gas fee solved isn't enough to take over btc because most of the time these kind of thing usually have small influence in regard of its valuation.
if ETH wanna take over BTC it needs to create trend like NFT and the likes which gonna significantly increase the market capitalization of ETH if there's some big trend going around.
other than that, I don't think ETH could.

I don't think so, Ethereum will needs massive adoption that would take more than a decade to surpass bitcoin, and that assuming that Bitcoin adoption is slowed down. And I don't think even with the Ethereum 2.0 PoW will not make those possible in near future. My point is that adoption is the key.

before you compair bitcoin with other coins or tokens , you must understand what bitcoin is. purposes of those coins which you mentioned is different. whatever it is dont compair bitcoin with other coins. ethereum or anyother coin cannot be compaired with bitcoin because bitcoin is the king of whole cryptocurrency world. all of alts depends on bitcoin. ethereum will pump for sure but wont take over bitcoin.

Don't expect too much or you will be disappointed when Ethereum used to have the cheapest transaction fee Bitcoin is still dominant and will remain the dominant coin in the market, I don't think gas fee Pos and having a maximum supply can help their cause, Bitcoin has fully established itself and every halving it reached new milestones, this question has been going on since Ethereum launched 7 years ago, but the answers have always been obvious.

There are many people out there who support ETH and believe that ETH will surpass Bitcoin. BUT I remain confident that Bitcoin will remain number 1. and nothing will surpass it any time soon. unless there is a new discovery about digital assets. other than crypto. but I'm not sure that it will be born soon. I think it will take more than 100 years for another digital asset to be found that goes beyond crypto or above bitcoin. something that you are not worried about can be solved with technology on top of a quantum computer.

so for now in the crypto era, Bitcoin is the one that will remain superior.

It's very obvious that many people are the fan of Ethereum and many people is also thw fan of bitcoin.i believe that for Ethereum to be populated in the society is as the results of Bitcoin. From the beginning it's Bitcoin that gives Ethereum the support of growth. Even when you said of the technology of both, it's quite understandable that bitcoin have more potential than Ethereum, so i have not the reason while Ethereum will make well than Ethereum.

Ethereum is indeed the best altcoins, but that doesn't mean Ethereum will ever be able to replace Bitcoin. Although the problem of high gas fees
has been successfully resolved, it will not make Ethereum able to beat Bitcoin. Therefore, since the first time Bitcoin was on the market until now,
Bitcoin has always dominated the market, that's because Bitcoin is invincible. In fact, there have been many other projects that have tried to
replace Bitcoin, but unfortunately none of them have succeeded. So like you said don't expect too high Ethereum will replace Bitcoin, it will only
be disappointing, because it is impossible to happen. Therefore, why do we have to invest in Bitcoin in large percentages compared to other coins,
because Bitcoin is the best crypto, so investing in Bitcoin will give us big profits in the long-term.

I think that could hardly happens, ETH even though has increased its dominance lately, still far from bitcoin, moreover it was bitcoin that dictates the market movement, ETH is just like other altcoins in general, it could have high dominance but it's still following heavily in every btc trend. Even though there is a chance that ETH could take over btc if it keeps increasing its dominance by getting the flow of investments from the big management fund and institutional investments.

The issue of ETH's supply and inflation rate will be solved when ETH merges, just like altcoins are using the POS algorithm today. But for ETH to take over BTC is very difficult, bitcoin is still the largest coin by market capitalization, the market capitalization is twice that of ETH, and every market movement depends on bitcoin including ETH. It is impossible to say that ETH will surpass BTC but this scenario will be very unlikely in the next 10 to 20 years.

The uses of the two are also different, Bitcoin aims to be a currency that can be used as a medium of payment, Ethereum chooses to be a platform that can manage smart contracts.

There is no way that Ethereum will ever overtake Bitcoin's value. There are several factors that make Ethereum unable to overtake Bitcoin, firstly, the abundant supply of ETH, the higher popularity of Bitcoin, and the increasingly massive adoption of Bitcoin.

Well IMO, I believe it is not going to happen because Bitcoin is Bitcoin dubbed as a gold standard in crypto and it remains that possession no matter what happens. Anyway, as we observe that the Ethereum development is very active nowadays thats why many people will come up with the idea that it will overthrow Bitcoin someday but I doubt it because Ethereum has its own purpose and usecase, the same as Bitcoin too and they are not on the same scale thats why there no need to compete each other and thats what I believe!

it is very unlikely that ETH can take over bitcoin, because bitcoin is the first digital currency or crypto asset and has a high value, the total supply of bitcoin is also very limited and almost exhausted in the crypto market, making bitcoin increasingly rare.
although still volatile, bitcoin is one of the most stable cryptocurrencies with a long history making it the most influential asset in other cryptocurrencies such as altcoins and the most consistent investment asset over the last 10 years.

And the question is if there is a chance. Because I don't think so nor there is a strong basis for this other than just false hopes. 
Well, you might have to open up your eyes OP and see the impact of Bitcoin in the market as for sure you were able to see the influence of this.

I'm not sure what you have seen but honestly, ETH is just following Bitcoin and whatever happens to Bitcoin it still remains the king of crypto, nothing else.

This has been a continuous discussion since 2017 as I registered here in the forum. At the first glance, I thought it was possible, but now people are still asking these questions still and probably from that, I already got my answer.
Wasn't ETH moving to PoS been announced and got delayed continuously? I can't get a GPU here in my country due to that, lol. :D

If ETH could dominate over Bitcoin, it should have done plenty of years ago already.

I don't think Ethereum will take over BTC for many reasons including some basic ones for example when we talk about crypto the first thing that comes to mind is bitcoin So bitcoin is a brand which is why if someone invests they look at BTC first and the market cap of bitcoin is huge because of the fixed supply.

Lots of Ethereum supporters hoped for it to overtake Bitcoin but Bitcoin still remained on top. Some coins attempted to replace Bitcoin but it's really hard for them to replace or reach the spot of BTC. Bitcoin has been through a lot and even passed the tests of time so it will be hard for any coin to replace it. Ethereum has huge potential but the gap between them is too big. However, Ethereum's potential will still remain high though it won't replace Bitcoin.

Since Ethereum will turn into a PoS algorithm, then I would really not be surprised if that Ethereum will experience a decrease in Rank,
and Ethereum will also never replace Bitcoin, even though bitcoin is getting harder to mine,
miners will still be mining until all supply of Bitcoin of which only 21 million have been exhausted.

I do agree that taking over bitcoin is something that ethereum will not do for a long time. I am not saying that it is impossible but that is too much of a goal for it right now. Best thing is to go up together, maybe after 2.0 it could have a good increase that will see them closer.

At some point, it reached to a point where it was just double the marketcap and we believed that it was getting there, with the proof of stake increase, if the gas price stays low when there is a lot of attention then it could actually get enough people to spend their ethereum as well. But that doesn't change the fact that it will be a tough thing to achieve for now.

ETH migrating could increase its value though it's definitely isn't that massive increase, but i disagree that ETH migration will instead make it decrease in rank because so far market capitalization of eth is already huge enough compared with the like of BNB.
I think the migration will change nothing in ETH and I agreed that it definitely isn't enough in term of overtaking BTC at all, ETH needs more than just migration I think it requires more trend like the NFTs and metaverse.

Your expectation is too high for things that never yet materialized the community will have to see the new Ethereum on POS and fix their unusual high gas fees before we can say that its a threat to Bitcoin's dominance, I shy away from Ethereum for now until the new update and many projects are shifting on other chains, if these projects shifted to Ethereum when the POS comes up then we can start the speculation.

Many altcoins are willing to take over BTC, but in fact, this is not a simple thing. There are many factors why Bitcoin has always become the best cryptocurrency, the one with the highest market cap, the one with high trust acceptance, and also utility.
Ethereum may have much better improvement after the new launching, however it doesnt mean able to defeat or take over Bitcoin position. As good as EThereum can reach the place, this can only be after Bitcoin, stil depend on Bitcoin market. Ethereum is worthy altcoin and good enough for investment, but it doesn;t mean that it is able to take over Bitcoin.

I remember those days as well, that was the only realistic chance that ethereum had of surpassing bitcoin as there was uncertainty about whether segwit will be activated or not and what this will mean for bitcoin, however since then bitcoin has put more and more distance between them and it does not seems as if ethereum has what it is needed to do so, as even if ethereum has reached new ATHs when it comes to fiat terms it has never surpassed its ATH when it comes to bitcoin.

Yes, I will never forget that time as well, they even have terms for it, Flippening and then Rippening (XRP). So obviously, it didn't happen. And now they are it again just because of the merger?, I don't think so.

It's good to see the price hitting $2,000 again, Ethereum investors are going to be happy with that. But please, no need to hype that there will be another Flippening story because they will not get as close to the price of Bitcoin right now, to be honest.

look at the ETH marketcap which has reached half of the bitcoin marketcap. and that's because the ETH hype is peaking because in a month there will be the merge event or the transition from PoW to PoS. Of course, this hype has various impacts on people's minds. But keep in mind that I guess the highest ETH marketcap at the top of the hype will only reach 75% of the BTC marketcap. and after that it will drop drastically again. because it usually happens. So I'm still holding on to my belief that ETH won't be able to surpass BTC. But I don't know if it's 20 years later. because maybe then there will be more up-to-date digital assets. but the chances are slim. most of the people who are holding ETH right now are waiting to be sold at the height of the hype. and when the hype ends. then people will realize again that BTC is still superior.

You remember the crypto called WBTC, it's a higher price coin than Bitcoin, it doesn't mean WBTC can beat Bitcoin, if you talk about higher prices many coins are priced higher than Bitcoin, the same thing can happen to Ethreum.

Ethereum is also one of the high-value cryptos, if indeed the price of eth can one day exceed Bitcoin, that's a natural thing in the trading market phenomenon.

WBTC is just a scam coin pegged with Bitcoin price, there's nothing special about it. I did check on CMC and I don't find any coin price ever beat Bitcoin price? which coin it is since you said many coins?

Beating Bitcoin in terms of price is very easy, but if you want to beat Bitcoin in terms of Marketcap and use cases, that's an impossible thing IMO. ETH couldn't and wouldn't exceed Bitcoin because the altcoins season on 2017 back, ETH failed to beat Bitcoin.

There are only 21 million bitcoins available in the offer. The technique for creating bitcoins requires that the pace of production decline every four years. Therefore, this will have an effect similar to that of a deflation in an economy, and the price of Bitcoin will rise as the supply of Bitcoin decreases over time. On the other hand, there are no restrictions on how much Ethereum is available. However, between times, the rate of production of new ETH chips kept declining.

The question is not new, I remember it was discussed a lot before, and until now it is being discussed again because of the upcoming events of ethereum. After all these years, ethereum has never done that either so there's no reason it can take over bitcoin right now, that's still not possible with ethereum.

Although the gap on CMC, eth is only behind btc, but overall, bitcoin is still the coin that dominates the majority of the market and has a great influence, which I think no other coin can do including eth.

Ethereum has its own uniqueness than Bitcoin, and if you compare Ethereum and Bitcoin, it's clearly very different,
Ethereum is a platform and Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency, and much more popular!,
I remind you, nothing can replace Bitcoin in the future!

ETH continues to be the second largest crypto asset by market cap, behind Bitcoin (BTC). Ethereum is a decentralized public ledger used to validate and store transactions on a standard blockchain network.

The Ethereum blockchain network has its own crypto asset called Ether (ETH) and an independent programming language called Solidity.

As you said Ethereum even though it has some advantages in technology development but always becomes the second largest crypto.
Because Bitcoin will always dominate and Ethereum will always be behind Bitcoin, it means that it is impossible for Ethereum to replace Bitcoin.
After all Bitcoin is the mother of cryptocurrency, because Bitcoin is the first crypto that was first created. So Bitcoin will always be the first choice of
many investors, therefore not only Ethereum, but several new projects were created to beat Bitcoin, unfortunately none of the new projects
can replace Bitcoin. Even many countries whose governments feel threatened by the presence of Bitcoin, they used all kinds of means to kill Bitcoin
and spread misleading news, but all ended in failure. Because Bitcoin is too powerful to turn off. So investing in Bitcoin should be our priority,
because the price of Bitcoin will tend to rise steadily, then it is very profitable long-term investment in Bitcoin.

I agree with every word you say.
and indeed this discussion is not new. there has been a lot of discussion about this. and is now re-emerging amid the hype that came ahead of ETH's shift from PoW to PoS.
And I also think Bitcoin will still have the top. because the current ETH hype will still dim back in time. because the hype ahead of the event is common. Although the possibility is always there. but still bitcoin will always stay at the top. hype before the event is normal and always weakens or drops after the event is passed.

Eth will not surpass btc at all it is not easy for eth to surpass btc because of some reason, i believe that btc is always rank #1 because it dominate the market and market condition depends on it from so many years till today.

definitely not!, Ethereum is Ethereum and Bitcoin is Bitcoin, as the saying goes first the chicken or the egg?,
we will not be able to distinguish between the two, both Ethereum which has advantages as a platform,
and Bitcoin as the main crypto currency.

To take over bitcoin is certainly very difficult because until now ethereum still dominates the price of bitcoin, and we can see that the value of ethereum is very far from bitcoin then it takes a very long time to approach the current value of bitcoin, although some say that in the crypto world everything can happen but if this problem I will not be sure of being achieved, although ethereum is a coin that we can't doubt, bitcoin will still be king forever.

Some forget how BTC and ETH work if they keep talking about ETH taking over BTC. The real thing is both BTC and ETH exist for different purposes and I don't see any chance ETH encircle BTC territory that's long-lasting, safe and secure cryptos to hold. While ETH is more about being used in smart contracts and used in daily transactions for a lot of things.

I see people are exaggerating fomo, a lot of people are expecting ETH to make a big leap. The possibility of this happening is possible as it is the most anticipated event of ETH throughout the years. But we should be absolutely careful at the moment, people are rushing to buy ETH and hope to make some profit from ETH but the sharks want to do the same. If we are not careful, we will most likely get dumped on us.

there are several possibilities about eth position in future and there is no impossible thing in crypto market. ethereum recently give important about their algorithm . hopefully ethereum fundamental could bring positive impact to another altcoin especially under eth chain. i am believe if market give good response about this update, soon or later btc position will replaced by ethereum.

I don't think ETH will take over BTC just because it goes from PoW to PoS, it maybe the opposite.
Currently, there are no coins can beat Bitcoin value in the market, do you know why ? Because the circulation is very limited.
Just imagine how many Bitcoin has lost up to date, the coin circulation is very low but the demand is high, therefore the coin value is very high.

Actually both currencies are doing well in crypto market it is very difficult to predict whether Eth can take over BTC or not. Bitcoin is the king in the crypto market followed by ethereum I don't think anyone can take someone's position both the coins will do well on their platforms.

In my own understanding I don't think so if Ethereum price  can overtake  Bitcoin price because we all know how far the lead of bitcoin price and also ETH price is depending on bitcoins price because when the price of bitcoin will rise then ETH will also rise and of fall or down then ETH price will down also .and also the price will based on proof of stake and proof of work.  But over all these both coins are good for investing .

eth will never overtake BTC.

they both offer completely difference services. The difference is the service ETH offers is completely replaceable, and is being replaced by faster, more efficient competitors.

BTC has no competitors. It is technologically pure are a perfect fit for purpose.

ETH must evolve faster than it has been to date if it wants to remain the top of the smart contract platforms. The merge places it still behind the speed and cost of others, not to mention the fact Proof of Stake is a blatant ponzi scheme. The merge likely does ETH more harm than good.

Bitcoin has miners, and Ethereum will switch to PoS, of course Miners will also switch, maybe they go mining Bitcoin or maybe other coins,
 this is the reason why Etherum will not be able to replace Bitcoin, because of the difference in algorithms and we know Ethereum was launched a long time ago,
and until now Ethereum remains under Bitcoin, and that is what will happen next

The top two coins that have a very strong community, especially in Bitcoin the world's first digital currency, have large investors around the world, to the point that Bitcoin cannot be compared to ETH, the two are indeed a compatible pair in the Crypto world and even  cannot be separated, both have advantages in their fields, and in my opinion ETH will not be able to take over Bitcoin as the king of all Crypto currencies.

At least to me it seems that they are trying to revive those rumors in order to increase the price of the ethereum, I don't really blame them because if they were able to achieve that then the price of them will go up tremendously and the benefits that they will obtain by investing in ethereum now will be huge, but we need to be realistic, that possibility doesn't exist anymore and anyone that thinks so is going to be incredibly disappointed when that doesn't happen.

Agree with what you said, both bitcoin and ethereum are the top cryptocurrencies that have advantages in their respective fields, they are not in the capacity to beat each other, but speaking of this community will be quite different, that both have different amounts, it's a community problem this is what allows Ethereum to catch up, not a price issue or take over as king of all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin)

And after all these years ethereum has not once surpassed bitcoin so now there is no reason why it should take over bitcoin. All this news is like creating misunderstanding about ethereum, aim to push eth price to the top to take profit. People need to be alert to these types of news, they are probably distracting us, creating a fomo effect so that they silently take profits. Those who bought eth at $900 will surely take advantage of this opportunity to take profits.

The Merge a long awaited upgrade will complete Ethereum's switch from pow to pos in september the merge wil change how etherum handles its money making the network more stable and decreasing the amount of eth in circulation.
Ethereum's inflation will be reduced after the merge ethereum is deflationary especially with fee burns while Bitcoin is inflationary each halving reduces inflation ethereum will have a larger adoption space as the base layer of the decentralised financial DeFi economy. The merge won't alleviate ethereum's high transaction costs which prevent scaling according to raman ethereum will leverage layer 2 scaling methods to accommodate most user activity. It will supplant Bitcoin as the dominant cryptocurrency in terms of pure economics and the impact of the supply shock ethereum does have a shot of overtaking Bitcoin.

If it's talking about daily volume then it's probably taking over Bitcoin but if we're talking about both price then ETH probably never surpass Bitcoin. Even Ethereum has more utilities than Bitcoin but Bitcoin is like parents for every crypto in the crypto space so just hope that ETH will have a new ATH soon and we should prepare our capital to not miss the train. 

Though Ethereum is a reputable coin and really waxing stronger, it will not overtake Bitcoin in many years to come. Apart from Bitcoin being the first coin that have gained massive support and popular over the years, Bitcoin is built to be secure and have proven to be good for long term investment. Currently, from CMC, Bitcoin dominance is 40.05% while Ethereun dominance is 20.37% as at 14/08/2022, meaning that Ethereum still have a long way to go. With the on-going merger, I will rather be more observant to watch how things unfold. It is rather too early to conclude that Ethereum will grow faster than how it has been.

I dont own ethereum or even btc but i know that both coins are good coins and trusted by so many investors. Since 2016 or even from the beginning of the creation or eth and btc, in my own opinion ethereum will not surpass btc because if it can surpass btc it maybe happens before because we experience a lot of dip on btc the problem is when BTC is on dip ethereum together with different coin will also experienced dip so eth will not surpass btc at all.

if ethereum becomes PoS then I don't think it will be different from other altcoins that already carry PoS. this is just exaggerated news. in the end after the hype ended. then the price of ethereum will still follow bitcoin. I think people should understand the big difference between bitcoin and altcoins. if we delve deeper into bitcoin then I don't think things like this need to come up again to be a question. because this question has come up many times before. but for the altcoin class, ethereum is indeed the king among other altcoins. but I think it still needs more time to compete with bitcoin. and even I doubt that time will ever come. but the possibility will always exist even if it is very small.

Stablecoins have experienced rapid market growth over the past two years and have become one of the core components of the cryptocurrency ecosystem, now having a larger market cap than Ethereum (ETH) due to the volume of value entering the stablecoin market.

But increasing rumors about an impending Ethereum merger in September have caused the price of ETH to rise thus being able to regain Ethereum's dominance over stablecoins, but never outperform bitcoin.

I agree with you, ETH used to be different from all the rest of the altcoins because it was a POW like bitcoin. But once it becomes POS it is no different from the rest, maybe when ETH becomes POS there will be no altcoins that can compare or catch up with ETH, but ETH is more unlikely than ever to take over BTC. All the recent news on ETH is aimed at creating hype that pushes ETH price higher followed by profit taking from the sharks.

Not sure about that. But if they can manage to impliment more in ETH and fix all the issue. Maybe, maybe then ETH might have a chance. But from my prespection, it will take much more time to reach where BTC now stands.

There is a small difference between going up solo, and going up with market. I think ETH will not flip, but it will definitely go up solo a bit, while the whole market will probably go up, but ETH will go up more than the market. So, let's say if all goes up 20%, ETH will go up 50%+ or so.

This doesn't make it go beyond bitcoin of course, it doesn't make it the first coin. However, I have to say that is still a good thing for ETH right? Be higher than everyone else? That is not going to be something shocking to us at all. I will definitely end up with something decent and it will definitely get there, it just won't be something too big at all.

agreed ETH overall still follows the trend of BTC in every of BTC move ETH still heavily influenced by it. I think in the future things will stay like that, since considering the massive investments flows still going in BTC and as long as things stays like that ETH could hardly ever take over BTC in the futures. ETH needs to be independent from BTC first then it could starts taking over BTC because otherwise the market capitalization of ETH will always gets eaten once there's massive rally coming for BTC in the future just like in the past cycle.

I'm going to be contrarian here and say no, Ethereum will not overtake BTC. I know there are a lot of Ethereum fans on this board, heck, you could almost call it EthereumTalk, but Bitcoin will remain the king for this cycle. It's not because BTC has better tech or anything like that but it's because Ethereum is one of 100 smart contract chains and most of those other chains have better tech than Ethereum does. You see, the merge that everyone is hyping does not scale Ethereum, it merely moves it from POW to POS. The king of Ethereum scaling is Polygon and I forsee Polygon overtaking Ethereum in the near future. DeFi projects on Polygon like MAXX finance and Qi DAO will replace popular DeFi DApps used on Ethereum today.

With the arrival of PoS, ETH will become more centralized and more susceptible to attack by attackers. That's the price of higher transaction processing speeds and moving away from PoW mining. Is that enough to overtake bitcoin? ETH should take care to keep demand in the blockchain space so that competitors don't get any closer. Bitcoin and ETH have different goals and are not in competition with each other, so the arrival of PoS will not change anything in the balance of power.

Well, it was good to see how ETH makes such a tremendous price trend nowadays but unfortunately, it was not the thing we consider enough to take over BTC and make the number 1. NO, it was not like that and we know that BTC still dominating the market despite all the dumps, even ETH will have its max supply, high demand, price surge, etc...
We have to accept that ETH remains #2 in the CMC and BTC is on top. Nothing could change of it unless if Bitcoin will die, (but I don't think if there is something left on the market).

yes, your expectations are too high because the language you use is not very suitable to be compared between bitcoin and ethereum. Bitcoin and ethereum have their respective advantages but neither of them overtakes or competes with each other. all running according to the network they are using to date. Even though ethreum has now fixed the gas fee issue it doesn't mean it will overtake bitcoin.

and now it is evident that at the moment BTC correction of a few percent. and ETH underwent a much deeper correction. so you are right. ETH will always follow bitcoin. and not vice versa.

it looks like they are in tune with the current state of affairs and it would be unlikely that ethereum could maneuver so as to achieve its goal of getting rid of bitcoin.
I agree with you, my friend above, that the network that has been used by them has clearly provided the best so far, although there may be a change where ethereum starts to cost less but will not be able to overtake bitcoin, because if you look at the market capitalization that has happened, it is clearly already far away different and probably hard to do that.
because until now bitcoin has affected the increase in ethereum and other coins, not the other way around.

It seems that Bitcoin is too strong to beat, so for Ethereum it will never be able to replace Bitcoin. If we compare Bitcoin and Ethereum from marketcap
and trading volume, the difference is very big. So as you said the reality is Ethereum will always be number two and behind Bitcoin. So we can see
Bitcoin always dominates the market, even though it is in a bear market. That's why when we have capital to invest in crypto, always prioritize investing
in Bitcoin. This means that the percentage of investment in Bitcoin should be greater than any altcoins, because Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency,
then investing in Bitcoin has the least risk compared to investing in altcoins. The opportunity to make a profit from Bitcoin is also very large, as long as
we can be patient holding Bitcoin until the price goes up. In fact, many new projects have been created to replace Bitcoin, but all have ended in failure.

Ethereum price is always connected with Bitcoin and the only way to beat Bitcoin in terms of marketcap is to over perform it during bear season like this which Ethereum don't do right now. Ethereum has a chance to do it before when the smart contract becomes a trending and people thought Ethereum might be a good alternative on Bitcoin busy network but the expectations failed once Ethereum blockchain suffers scalability issue after not handling the first NFT games which is crypto kitty.

I think ETH takeover BTC, there is a chance after few decades....

It's not an easy thing to takeover BTC  even though ETH is the second-largest cryptocurrency by market capitalization because,

> BTC provides lower transaction fees than the traditional online payment systems but controlled by decentralized authority.

> Mainly its price movement has a strong impact on the rest of the crypto market(Including ETH)8).

Yes despite at the moment that Bitcoin price is going down but it's still tough and I honestly don't see Ethereum taking over Bitcoin,
although Ethereum continues to grow but it will still be difficult,
Of course we need to see how it continues because this is a crypto which is difficult to predict

It was to note that Bitcoin remains the number 1 among cryptocurrencies and no other coin could beat that. Even though the market of ETH surpasses BTC but that is not the only thing why Btc is on the top, but it is because it was created first and unique.
Anyways, it has no sense to see ETH beating Bitcoin because it is for sure the trust of the people, and their preferred choice of investment goes to Bitcoin, not Ethereum.

I have little faith in Ethereum long term and sold my BTC and Ethereum for XRP and ICP. Most people think that the Ethereum merge scales Ethereum but it does not. Also, staked funds will only be unlocked for users a year after the merge.

i think if ethereum always make an improvement, there will be a chance for ethereum take over bitcoin. in some aspect ethereum have not yet fulfill the requirement to take over bitcoin in short time.

Ethereum is the best among the altcoins but cannot take the position of bitcoin is the king in the crypto market and is on top of all currencies. All other currencies in the crypto market increase depending on the price of bitcoin ethereum's price increase depends a lot on bitcoin.

I definitely think that people who believe Ethereum can take over Bitcoin are very naive. Just go around and ask regular people about what cryptocurrency they are familiar with. First answer will always be Bitcoin.
For companies as well, Bitcoin is king. Ethereum is more like son of Bitcoin.
Don't get me wrong, Ethereum going POS is awesome but I still think Bitcoin s cap will never be beaten.

I don't think, it will be possible for Ethereum to overtake Bitcoin because Bitcoin team are seriously working hard to ensure Bitcoin still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies in the market. I believe, whenever Bitcoin price is rising in the market Ethereum and other coins will be rising too, showed that Bitcoin will keep leading the cryptocurrencies for those that think Ethereum will overtake Bitcoin to believe that Bitcoin will remain the king. I think, Bitcoin still have more strong teams than Ethereum because many traders make more profits from Bitcoin investment than Ethereum which will be one of the advantage Ethereum cannot overtake Bitcoin in the market.

Hard to imagine how and when Ethereum could take over Bitcoin. I think the limited supply of Bitcoin is the leading factor why Ethereum would never take it over. With same demand, the value of Bitcoin would only grow with time. We cant expect same with Ethereum. And growing amount of competitor blockchain only strengthen Bitcoin position. And dont forget that Bitcoin was first and is most popular cryptocurrency. It is really hard to take down the "king". Bitcoin and Ethereum are like gold and silver. These two metals have been discovered decades ago, but silver did not manage to take over gold.

in principle, ETH technology wins over BTC, there are applications, smart contracts and many projects in this network, and bitcoin is essentially a measure of value and accumulation, in fact a speculative asset.Therefore, everything is possible.

Looking at the current situation, the price of eth gas is quite cheap, although sometimes it can spike again. However, if the competition is compared to Bitcoin, I don't think it can be, because as we know that Bitcoin has become a mascot for the crypto world and it can also be said that all atcoins are still affected by price movements.

Ethereum can not take over Bitcoin, not even in a 10years time. There's more time for Bitcoin to pump, and I don't see Ethereum meeting it up. Besides Ethereum and altcoins follow the movement of Bitcoin, when Bitcoin is dumping, the same thing apply to Ethereum and the crypto market. Crypto is generally controlled by one of the top coin in the space which have so many investors, Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not relenting in price, and Ethereum always in pursuit of it, moreover Ethereum have it's network which make it more solid than Bitcoin.

I think in the future the market capitalization of eth will have closer value with btc, considering that smart contract blockchain usually grows faster since there are metaverses and the likes that could significantly grows the market capitalization in the long run, surely logically eth definitely have the chance. even though as long as btc is still first choice in term of investments by the big investments fund company, eth will hardly could ever take over btc since surely the investment will instead flows in btc and increase btc value.

Eth is great, btc is the greatest among all. It's a good thing they finally found a solution to the high gas fee, which we really don't know how successful it's gonna be.
When the merge happens their is possibility of eth gaining more and their is also possiblity of a great fall after the pump.
To me I don't see anything which will make eth take over BTC. Btc remains the father, it has gain alot of trust and adoption, apart from that, I still believe in btc more than I do for eth.

Etherum is not competing with Bitcoin, because indeed these two coins were not created to compete,
but to become crypto currency!, for 10 years Bitcoin has always been number 1,
because Bitcoin will never be shifted by anyone,
if you think ethereum will shift bitcoin then you really should read the history of Bitcoin!

There is no possibility that Ethereum overtook Bitcoin, it is not something that is easy to do, the cost of gas that has been perfected, will only have an impact on the case of increasingly stable use in Ethereum, but the concept is not to overtake Bitcoin, you can make sure your expectations are too high, if Judging from any aspect Bitcoin is very difficult to replace.
Because Bitcoin is very strong and of course Bitcoin is everyone's big dream today.

Do you really think Eth will pass and stay past btc?

or are you a simple shiller for eth?


I expect that you will act insulted that I asked those two questions but the reality is other than being a shill for eth I see how you could believe pos is any good.

but what do I know not much I am
kind of stupid and old just a burnt out pow fan and anti pos guy.

I will be the first to tell you you were way smarter than me if eth whales and btc tanks.

so good luck with the bet you are making on eth.

it will be difficult to happen ethereum will overtake Bitcoin, Bitcoin is too strong in the market, trading volume is always on top, so it will be difficult for ethereum to be able to compete with Bitcoin at the top,
then the issue of erratic Ethereum GAS became several obstacles, even though it has launched Ethereum2.0 but it is not enough to pass Bitcoin

Where the crypto market can be said to depend on Bitcoin, there is no way to rise above Bitcoin. Ether price is also following this Bitcoin. So it is not possible in any way. But Ether may be more powerful than ever. We once compared a coin to Bitcoin in terms of price called YFI. At one point the price was higher than Bitcoin. But his popularity was not established. Many in the crypto world may not even know its name. So no one thing can be over emphasized that can be over committed. Just keep in mind that Bitcoin is the best in the crypto currency world.

Despite all the improvements and the transition to pos le fee finally in the eth standard in my opinion it will never be able to outclass btc which will remain firmly in first place

it could be, especially if the ethereum supply will be limited on the new ethereum. the price will also be high with existing users, even in terms of utility ethereum is better than bitcoin, but they still like bitcoin mainly because of the fixed supply and purchases from many communities. if ethereum had at least the same supply, there would probably be great price resistance between the two.

PoS just exists today because PoW consumes a lot of energy. If you read technically, PoW is way superior than PoS. I believe PoS is just some kind of remedy to the 'energy disease'. Quantum computers are coming to stay in a close future, and this energy issue will be fixed. But OFC the market is not rational. I believe, in a long term, ETH will be merged to ashes.

do not expect such a impossible thing to happened. because bitcoin and Ethereum has fully different kind of usercases and goals. and the main thing you must always remember is bitcoin is the king and it owns nearly  50% of amount of total crypto market cap. And also there are no confirmed information that Ethereum merge will reduce the gas fees. Ethereum foundation has revealed recently Ethereum merge Wont reduce  gas fees and the main goal of this merge is not reducing gas fees . maybe Ethereum will go to $20000 or $30000 . but bitcoin will be at least $200000 By that time.

No one will think about eth to take over btc lets take a look back on the price of eth and btc its been a long time and never in the history record that eth take over BTC price the coin has its own function and use case they are both a good coin but i always prefer on investing btc than eth even in a future i still believe that btc is still the number one coin in crypto.

My question is, does Ethereum already have a system that is owned by Bitcoin and can surpass what bitcoin has done from the beginning to its emergence, if indeed Ethereum has all the systems owned by bitcoin then it is unlikely that will happen, even though bitcoin is everyone's dream  , that does not mean bitcoin can be replaced just like that, that bitcoin is the strongest digital currency from year to year, even until now no one has replaced it..

I personally think. ETH will not be able to overtake bitcoin. at least for now. but we certainly don't know in the future. and it looks like the current increase in the price of ETH looks like the usual hype in general. because before the merge event. but ETH seems to have a lot of support from the government even if we type ETH in the google search field. then a countdown will appear to the merge. which means Google recognizes ETH.

If we look at Bitcoin which has always dominated the market since the beginning, and there is no single project that can replace Bitcoin until now.
I agree that Ethereum is unlikely to take over Bitcoin, even though the Ethereum teams were able to overcome the problem of gas fees it was
impossible to beat Bitcoin. Because as the first coins to enter the market, Bitcoin is already too strong to beat. So it is not surprising that altcoins
often follow the movement of Bitcoin. The comparison of Bitcoin and Ethereum prices is quite far, because after all the demand for Bitcoin will
always be higher than Ethereum. Not only Ethereum, there have been many projects created to beat Bitcoin, but all of them ended in failure.
So if someone invests in crypto and doesn't include Bitcoin in their portfolio list, it's a big mistake. Because after all Bitcoin is the best crypto and
we should not miss investing in Bitcoin.

I think ETH has great potential to become king by beating bitcoin, the marketcap difference is only about 40% and if ETH can go up 80% it will beat bitcoin, anything can happen and I think by beating bitcoin then this is a positive indication for the market .

But how does Ethereum beat bitcoin? Currently, the market capitalization of bitcoin is almost twice that of ethereum and accounts for more than 40% of the total market capitalization, if you think ethereum is up to 80% then bitcoin will stand still for it to pass. And how does ETH go up while bitcoin doesn't, once bitcoin doesn't go up no altcoin can go up?

To be honest, BTC is so strong that no one can beat it, it remains the most popular and in demand coin in the market, keeping it at the top. Once the market crashed, everyone chose bitcoin as the safest haven, showing that it was the most reliable in the market.

When it comes to cryptocurrencies, people immediately think of a decentralized system with high security and no other coin can meet that need but bitcoin. All altcoins are centralized it is not completely decentralized like bitcoin, so bitcoin is always the first safe choice for investors and target users.

I hope it is found reasonable but guess what, it is never enough. The market cap itself doesn't recognize who is more potential and who is not. I suggest for you not just look at the market cap but instead, look outside as we are not talking about numbers, we also have talked about the significant use of the project and its benefits to the community. As we can see, Bitcoin dominates the market and that was because many people support this over the others.

When Ethereum has switched to PoS, miners will of course turn away from ethereum because they will not get rewarded like before and since the news of switching PoW network to PoS circulating now ethereum miners have switched to other coins like with ETC coins and will indirectly make Ethereum classic coin is more valuable because miners keep coming to mine with them.

Yes Bitcoin is now the top cryptocurrency in terms of popularity, usage ‍and acceptance. The Ether platform is undergoing massive development and will continue to do so in the future, but it will never be able to compete with Bitcoin. In this journey of cryptocurrency, various questions have been raised about many cryptocurrencies so far. Many reliable projects have also been scammed. But there have never been any questions or complaints about Bitcoin. It will always be unique in cryptocurrency.

maybe some time ago Ethereum has fixed the transaction fees are too high which makes users nervous, but that doesn't mean Ethereum can overtake Bitcoin, so I think your thinking is too narrow if you think that ethereum will overtake bitcoin, because we all know that bitcoin is the best Coin of all time and no one can take its place.