Title: $500 exchange scam Post by: Deonnn on August 20, 2022, 02:43:23 PM What happened::
Yesterday i tried to find person to exchange me BTC -> LTC and i found @alterra57 sent him 500usd worth of bitcoin and got blocked Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3453976 Reference Link: idk whats that Amount Scammed: 500 BTC/$500 Payment Method: Bitcoins Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/6xlEsBS Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved. Address to refund : MTdv4cXkj98MtZ8NEjHnc9oXiqpnmfX56X Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: ScamViruS on August 20, 2022, 05:58:05 PM Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3453976 You are saying that the member scammed you, I think we should listen to that member's side also. Because there is a lot to discuss in this matter, it is clear from a post of that member. If you have any more proofs please share them here, so that everything becomes clear and the member can be called a scammer. This post should be read further:- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610#msg60787610 Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 20, 2022, 06:18:11 PM You are saying that the member scammed you, I think we should listen to that member's side also. Because there is a lot to discuss in this matter, it is clear from a post of that member. If you have any more proofs please share them here, so that everything becomes clear and the member can be called a scammer. How can he achieve the truth if users, using their authority, accused him of scam? Even if he sends all the evidence, they will yell that he is a scammer, just like they did to meThis post should be read further:- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610#msg60787610 Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: ScamViruS on August 20, 2022, 06:36:32 PM You are saying that the member scammed you, I think we should listen to that member's side also. Because there is a lot to discuss in this matter, it is clear from a post of that member. If you have any more proofs please share them here, so that everything becomes clear and the member can be called a scammer. How can he achieve the truth if users, using their authority, accused him of scam? Even if he sends all the evidence, they will yell that he is a scammer, just like they did to meThis post should be read further:- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610#msg60787610 There is not enough evidence to prove that the member is actually a scammer. It doesn't seem worth arguing with you, because the state of your profile makes your reputation irrelevant. I would like to know if the OP actually sent the funds or not, because I have doubts about the op after seeing @alterra57's post. So more discussion is important. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 20, 2022, 06:41:38 PM How can he achieve the truth if users, using their authority, accused him of scam? Even if he sends all the evidence, they will yell that he is a scammer, just like they did to me Your case was, you were trying to sell some coin that does not worth $1 against USDT. So clearly you were intentionally trying to scam people. There are no point to yell. You need to learn to move on.Amount Scammed: 500 BTC/$500 Can you sign one of the input address of the tx? This will prove that the coin were sent from your wallet.Payment Method: Bitcoins Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 Reading your conversation, I am going to tag the accused party. I hope they come and defend in their support. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 20, 2022, 06:46:47 PM There is not enough evidence to prove that the member is actually a scammer. It doesn't seem worth arguing with you, because the state of your profile makes your reputation irrelevant. I would like to know if the OP actually sent the funds or not, because I have doubts about the op after seeing @alterra57's post. So more discussion is important. He himself admitted to scam - read for yourself:Deon has sent me 500 USD worth of Bitcoin and I believe he is trying to gain my trust with his second account so he can play in the higher leagues. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: khaled0111 on August 20, 2022, 06:57:02 PM Reading your conversation, I am going to tag the accused party. I hope they come and defend in their support. Please don't! If you read the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610) started by alterra57, you will realize who is the real scamper here.I'll just comment on this: OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: casinotester0001 on August 20, 2022, 07:03:31 PM ...... amazing :DNow let's find out that alterra57 = Deonnn. Just kiddin' Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 20, 2022, 07:04:59 PM Reading your conversation, I am going to tag the accused party. I hope they come and defend in their support. Please don't! If you read the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610) started by alterra57, you will realize who is the real scamper here.I'll just comment on this: OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you linked in OP (your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? Thank you very much for this. I will never forget this. Please send me your USDC address on Solana, I'd like to send you 50 USD, for a beer. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 20, 2022, 07:09:13 PM Reading your conversation, I am going to tag the accused party. I hope they come and defend in their support. Please don't! If you read the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610) started by alterra57, you will realize who is the real scamper here.I'll just comment on this: After finding out the connection I do not think Deonnn should have an answer. I am going to remove the tag from alterra57 and will request him to send the difference back. As I assume he received higher amount than the amount Deonnn / his alt wanted to scam.OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you linked in OP (your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? @alterra57, sorry bother for misunderstanding. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 20, 2022, 07:10:45 PM Reading your conversation, I am going to tag the accused party. I hope they come and defend in their support. Please don't! If you read the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610) started by alterra57, you will realize who is the real scamper here.I'll just comment on this: After finding out the connection I do not think Deonnn should have an answer. I am going to remove the tag from alterra57 and will request him to send the difference back. As I assume he received higher amount than the amount Deonnn / his alt wanted to scam.OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you linked in OP (your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? @alterra57, sorry bother for misunderstanding. Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? I cannot be the first victim, nor the last one. I think I'll send 50 USD to khaled0111 and donate the rest to an animal shelter or something. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 20, 2022, 07:11:24 PM Thank you very much for this. I will never forget this. Please send me your USDC address on Solana, I'd like to send you 50 USD, for a beer. Now you're going to use the stolen money to buy beer for your friends? Return $500 immediately!Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: ScamViruS on August 20, 2022, 07:11:38 PM He himself admitted to scam - read for yourself: You will not get any good results by trying this. Because the Op did something that if proven would get the tag on the op's own account. If alterra57 has withheld the op's funds even after receiving the funds, that's something to think about. It is important to discuss information from both sides here. Because if op has sent funds and alterra57 refuses to return his funds then he must be tagged by community members. So waiting is a good move now.Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 20, 2022, 07:14:09 PM He himself admitted to scam - read for yourself: You will not get any good results by trying this. Because the Op did something that if proven would get the tag on the op's own account. If alterra57 has withheld the op's funds even after receiving the funds, that's something to think about. It is important to discuss information from both sides here. Because if op has sent funds and alterra57 refuses to return his funds then he must be tagged by community members. So waiting is a good move now.OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 20, 2022, 07:15:00 PM Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? Yes you should. Because you are not a scammer like him. After deducting the amount he scammed you, the rest are his money not yours. So, from moral point of view I will suggest you to send the money back to his wallet and move on. His account is already tagged so at least from this account he can not do any trade.Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: casinotester0001 on August 20, 2022, 07:15:41 PM Return $500 immediately! 16xypjnxlrew = Deonnn ??? ::) :DTitle: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 20, 2022, 07:16:49 PM Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? Yes you should. Because you are not a scammer like him. After deducting the amount he scammed you, the rest are his money not yours. So, from moral point of view I will suggest you to send the money back to his wallet and move on. His account is already tagged so at least from this account he can not do any trade.I see, right now I'm 100% sure the money he sent me he scammed from someone else so I have decided to donate those money to an animal shelter (I love cats). If I send the coins back to him he will keep on doing what he does best, scam people out of their hard earned money. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 20, 2022, 07:19:36 PM I see, right now I'm 100% sure the money he sent me he scammed from someone else so I have decided to donate those money to an animal shelter (I love cats). If I send the coins back to him he will keep on doing what he does best, scam people out of their hard earned money. There are no problem if you donate money that your own but it's not your own (remaining). Technically it's his money so if I was you then I would return the difference back. I don't need to care where from the money came. That's his business.Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 20, 2022, 07:19:54 PM OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated. You have no evidence that he is the same person! He believed you - and made a deal, and you robbed him! Now all your friends, including BitcoinGirl.Club, are screaming that you are honest, and he is a scammerTitle: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 20, 2022, 07:20:54 PM OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated. You have no evidence that he is the same person! He believed you - and made a deal, and you robbed him! Now all your friends, including BitcoinGirl.Club, are screaming that you are honest, and he is a scammerLearn how to read troll. Reading your conversation, I am going to tag the accused party. I hope they come and defend in their support. Please don't! If you read the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.msg60787610) started by alterra57, you will realize who is the real scamper here.I'll just comment on this: OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 20, 2022, 07:23:10 PM Now all your friends, including BitcoinGirl.Club, are screaming Don't twist your dick, dickhead.Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 20, 2022, 07:24:29 PM 16xypjnxlrew = Deonnn ??? ::) :D I don't have $500, only 100 UST and $100 futuresTitle: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: ScamViruS on August 20, 2022, 07:27:47 PM OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated. Since you don't own the money, and the op actually owns the money, I think donating the money might not be the right decision. So think again what you want to do, because everything depends on your decision. Scammers won't even stop their operations, they'll use the same trick on someone else later. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: casinotester0001 on August 20, 2022, 07:29:22 PM 16xypjnxlrew = Deonnn ??? ::) :D I don't have $500, only 100 UST and $100 futuresTitle: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 20, 2022, 08:23:50 PM check your IP and IP of Deonnn :D Stop writing bullshit!Since you don't own the money, and the op actually owns the money, I think donating the money might not be the right decision. So think again what you want to do, because everything depends on your decision. Scammers won't even stop their operations, they'll use the same trick on someone else later. I think alterra57 shouldn't return anything to him because this scammer tried to manipulate all of usTitle: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: LoyceV on August 20, 2022, 08:44:53 PM OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". Don't you love the blockchain? :DI'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? I cannot be the first victim, nor the last one. Now that's an interesting ethical question I don't have a direct answer for.OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated. Do you know how long it took between the transaction and confirmation? We've had many blocks (https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator) recently, and double spending isn't a guaranteed game indeed.I see, right now I'm 100% sure the money he sent me he scammed from someone else so I have decided to donate those money to an animal shelter (I love cats). If I send the coins back to him he will keep on doing what he does best, scam people out of their hard earned money. I'd say don't refund him yet. Maybe you'll be able to find earlier victims if you trace back where the funds came from. Refunding them is much more satisfying.@Deonnn: Since you so clearly got busted with on-chain evidence, do you mind playing open cards here? Be honest, come clean, share your experiences as a scammer with the Bitcointalk community. I'd love to see inside a scammer's mind! Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 20, 2022, 09:06:20 PM OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". Don't you love the blockchain? :DI'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? I cannot be the first victim, nor the last one. Now that's an interesting ethical question I don't have a direct answer for.OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated. Do you know how long it took between the transaction and confirmation? We've had many blocks (https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator) recently, and double spending isn't a guaranteed game indeed.I see, right now I'm 100% sure the money he sent me he scammed from someone else so I have decided to donate those money to an animal shelter (I love cats). If I send the coins back to him he will keep on doing what he does best, scam people out of their hard earned money. I'd say don't refund him yet. Maybe you'll be able to find earlier victims if you trace back where the funds came from. Refunding them is much more satisfying.@Deonnn: Since you so clearly got busted with on-chain evidence, do you mind playing open cards here? Be honest, come clean, share your experiences as a scammer with the Bitcointalk community. I'd love to see inside a scammer's mind! Took less than 2 minutes for the first confirmation to take place, it surprised me as it was really fast but it's Saturday today so the chain isn't as crowded as it is during week days. His "calculations" did not have that in. Thank you for the suggestion, I will try and identify the victim/s if they are members of this forum which I doubt, he probably scammed someone in a Telegram group as that is how a lot of these scammers operate. And Deon, share your inner workings with us, I too am interested in learning how rotten someone has to be to steal money from people. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 20, 2022, 09:16:29 PM Took less than 2 minutes for the first confirmation to take place, it surprised me as it was really fast but it's Saturday today so the chain isn't as crowded as it is during week days. His "calculations" did not have that in. Will you move your topic to the scam accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0Thank you for the suggestion, I will try and identify the victim/s if they are members of this forum which I doubt, he probably scammed someone in a Telegram group as that is how a lot of these scammers operate. And Deon, share your inner workings with us, I too am interested in learning how rotten someone has to be to steal money from people. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: DireWolfM14 on August 20, 2022, 09:21:34 PM I'll just comment on this: OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this". I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44 Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address) Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin? Nice work. As soon as I realized there were two conflicting scam accusations I figured the blockchain could shed some light on the truth. Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? I cannot be the first victim, nor the last one. I think I'll send 50 USD to khaled0111 and donate the rest to an animal shelter or something. Stealing from a thief is still stealing. It's been proven that he stole from you, and now you've recovered that money. If there's a way to prove the remainder was also stolen, then it should be returned to it's rightful owners. Otherwise, no matter what noble cause on which you propose to spend the money makes it any less theft on your part. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: casinotester0001 on August 20, 2022, 09:30:05 PM ... then it should be returned to it's rightful owners. When we find out that Deonnn got the 500 bucks from let's say user ABC.How much should alterra57 send ABC ::) Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: DireWolfM14 on August 20, 2022, 09:37:56 PM ... then it should be returned to it's rightful owners. When we find out that Deonnn got the 500 bucks from let's say user ABC.How much should alterra57 send ABC ::) Ever hear of subtraction? It goes something like this: 500 - 170 = 330 Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: Deonnn on August 20, 2022, 09:46:34 PM Refund me atleast 330 how staff says it
Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: casinotester0001 on August 20, 2022, 09:48:00 PM Ever hear of subtraction? It goes something like this: Maybe fair and better?:500 - 170 = 330 alterra57: (170/670) * 500 = 127 ABC: (500/670) * 500 = 373 Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: DireWolfM14 on August 20, 2022, 11:01:01 PM Refund me atleast 330 how staff says it The only person who mentioned the number 330 is me. I'm not staff, and I have no say whatsoever what alterra57 does with the money. You've been proven to be a liar and a scammer, so no one really cares whether you get the money back or not. ~ Oooooh, ratios!?! Who's the smart boy? Animal shelter is certainly a good idea, or some small non collateral loans to users that do actually need it, like me. What's the matter, did you gamble away the grocery money? Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: DireWolfM14 on August 20, 2022, 11:20:28 PM Don't understand why you are trying to attack me but no I did not. Lol, because you look like just another scammer sniffing around for a handout, Chahan. Or should I say Maasdamer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394559.msg60791262#msg60791262)? Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 21, 2022, 03:34:15 AM Lol, because you look like just another scammer sniffing around for a handout, Chahan. Or should I say Maasdamer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394559.msg60791262#msg60791262)? Why then did you support the scammer before?Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: NotATether on August 21, 2022, 04:00:48 AM Proof of Payment: Can you sign one of the input address of the tx? This will prove that the coin were sent from your wallet.https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222 See, these "proof of payments" are fucked. Nowadays people are not even using signed messages anymore, but blockchain transactions which could be theirs or could belong to some random person. Thus a person could commit fraud by producing an arbitrary transaction on a block explorer as a "proof of payment". This "proof of payment" is only valid between buyer and seller, and meaningless to everyone else. There is no way (currently) to prove that you actually sent Bitcoins somewhere. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: LoyceV on August 21, 2022, 07:06:19 AM Refund me atleast 330 how staff says it "Staff" has nothing to do with this. Maybe this is a good moment to ask for "source of funds", like a bank would do. I'm pretty sure you scammed the money from someone else.This "proof of payment" is only valid between buyer and seller, and meaningless to everyone else. True, but since the other party didn't contest it and more or less confirmed it in their own thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410573.0), I don't doubt this transaction happened between those two users.Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: o_e_l_e_o on August 21, 2022, 09:26:16 AM -snip- Good find. While I stand by what I said in the other thread, that the chat logs alone were not enough to conclusively prove a link, this blockchain evidence is irrefutable that these two users are the same person.It is completely justified for OP to keep the amount he was scammed. What happens with the remainder of the amount is up to him. Personally, I would probably return the remainder of the funds, although I can see the merit behind either donating them or trying to refund other victims of this scammer. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: Deonnn on August 21, 2022, 07:32:02 PM But he said that he received it so lol
Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 21, 2022, 07:53:45 PM But he said that he received it so lol Remember when you called me stupid Deon? :-\ Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: Deonnn on August 21, 2022, 08:46:38 PM kruszwilek#5800 add me on discord
Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 21, 2022, 08:48:24 PM See, these "proof of payments" are fucked. Nowadays people are not even using signed messages anymore, but blockchain transactions which could be theirs or could belong to some random person. Thus a person could commit fraud by producing an arbitrary transaction on a block explorer as a "proof of payment". My goal was to verify if the OP really sent BTC from the input address of the transaction he linked in the OP. People can take random ID from blockchain and claim that it's their transaction. But anyway, we already know now what happened. Thanks to khaled0111.This "proof of payment" is only valid between buyer and seller, and meaningless to everyone else. There is no way (currently) to prove that you actually sent Bitcoins somewhere. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: alterra57 on August 21, 2022, 09:11:55 PM kruszwilek#5800 add me on discord I don't add people, you can go ahead and add me. Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: Deonnn on August 21, 2022, 09:51:20 PM I sent u invite
Title: Re: $500 exchange scam Post by: 16xypjnxlrew on August 21, 2022, 10:29:50 PM I don't add people, you can go ahead and add me. Don't send him anything, he will deceive others! |