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Title: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 22, 2022, 11:38:50 AM
This is not the typical type of thread I'd make. Honestly, I'm not one of those people who always moan and think about money, with it being all that matters to them, while trying to cut corners on everything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against saving/investing while being resourceful and frugal.

Approximately since March, inflation has started taking a toll on me, first financially and then psychologically. At first, I wasn't really bothered; it wasn't that extreme and wasn't too worried. I was still making ends meet without too many issues and still managed to save a little, without taking into account my cryptocurrency investments. However, as time passes by, it gets worse and worse. I believed that the tourism sector could slow down the recession in Greece, but that didn't happen. Prices of goods are increasing every week, while electricity bills have soared.

https://i.ibb.co/0K450Zz/inflation.png (https://ibb.co/jz0tCGj)

As you can see from the following chart, inflation in Greece keeps increasing every month, with July only showing tiny and unimportant signs of improvement. The situation in Europe isn't great either, especially in the Balkans and Baltic countries.

https://i.ibb.co/XY4yzMW/inflation-EU.png (https://ibb.co/hYMXKwg)

No matter how you look at it, it's terrible. Although, I believe that Balkan countries are in a worse position due to the low wages in most of them. For instance, the minimum wage in Greece is €713 before taxes, approximately €620-€650 after taxes, while the average rent for a single bedroom apartment exceeds €300-€350. Don't get me started on electricity and fuel.

Every end of the month, energy suppliers announce the prices for the following month, with kw/h increasing every month. The Public Power Corporation in Greece announced an increase from €0.486/kWh to €0.788/kWh, while in other suppliers it might cost up to €1/kWh. It's astonishing. In the meantime, the government is funding oil and electric suppliers, who are soaring millions in profits in the past few months.

This situation is only worsening; living is constantly becoming more expensive and has started to have psychological effects too. As I've said earlier, I'm not used to moaning about money, because I still have cryptocurrency investments and so on, and there are plenty of people who are struggling way worse than I am, however, working two jobs, over 10 hours a day and I still see my bank's balance being slowly drained every month. I'm not anxious about today, but for the future, since the situation only seems to worsen day by day, making me sick to my stomach from anxiety.

How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?

Sources: https://ec.europa.eu/
https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Hydrogen on August 22, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?



I expected our current era of inflation and doom and gloom for the last 20+ years.

Everything people are depressed and anxious about now. Are things I was depressed and anxious about more than a decade ago. Thankfully, I've had time to think and rationalize everything. Eventually got over most of the negative thoughts and sentiments surrounding it. Like the stereotypical memes say, things do get better over time. People can adapt.

Learning more about the problems we face definitely helped in my case. Feelings of powerlessness stem from not knowing or understanding the motives, history and fundamental forces behind things. This is a dual edged sword as defining the problem can also exacerbate negative feelings, in terms of recognizing the enormity of the issues faced. Which can result in greater demoralization.

The worst is still yet to come. I hope the crisis brings out the best in people and teaches us the importance of things which many of us take for granted.





Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: crwth on August 22, 2022, 05:20:06 PM
I think when it comes to living expenses, it's always going to be a factor with the effects of dealing with where you will get your next meal and how. That's always going to be a factor in the mental aspect and would affect you if you are having a hard time with it. So this becomes a domino effect. Everyone wants to survive, so every business and effort to live would increasingly become difficult because everyone wants and needs more, so there's more to it.

With my coping with what's happening in the economy, I had to resort to different incomes so that I could manage to live my daily life with the current setup that I have now. I hope that everyone is as well. It's just really tiring sometimes, and I need a break sometimes too.

I recently had an anxiety attack on having doubts about myself. All I did was resort to my partner, who helped me remember my "why's," It came back to me, and I felt better because of it. Maybe you can try that as well. Have deep breaths too.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: gantez on August 22, 2022, 05:22:26 PM
How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?


Improvement in next few months I don't expect it but in next few years it is possible and during that year if we can buy some coins to invest now, we can achieve personal improvement in finance . Now the government need to reduce tax so savings can grow.




I expected our current era of inflation and doom and gloom for the last 20+ years.

Everything people are depressed and anxious about now. Are things I was depressed and anxious about more than a decade ago.


Like I get tempted asking how old are you now  ;D ;D joking

Like the stereotypical memes say, things do get better over time. People can adapt.


Not anymore. Things not getting better over time. They getting worse over time. We are feeling it getting from bad to worse. Individual life can get better but country economy getting bad to worse. The world need help inflation getting worse.


The worst is still yet to come. I hope the crisis brings out the best in people and teaches us the importance of things which many of us take for granted.


The people learn in hard way, life teach us to be strong and in hard times to stand up for ourselves. Never lose hope to keep struggling for survival. If you try today and it fails, keep trying to succeed.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Fortify on August 22, 2022, 06:54:29 PM
This is not the typical type of thread I'd make. Honestly, I'm not one of those people who always moan and think about money, with it being all that matters to them, while trying to cut corners on everything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against saving/investing while being resourceful and frugal.

Approximately since March, inflation has started taking a toll on me, first financially and then psychologically. At first, I wasn't really bothered; it wasn't that extreme and wasn't too worried. I was still making ends meet without too many issues and still managed to save a little, without taking into account my cryptocurrency investments. However, as time passes by, it gets worse and worse. I believed that the tourism sector could slow down the recession in Greece, but that didn't happen. Prices of goods are increasing every week, while electricity bills have soared.

As you can see from the following chart, inflation in Greece keeps increasing every month, with July only showing tiny and unimportant signs of improvement. The situation in Europe isn't great either, especially in the Balkans and Baltic countries.

No matter how you look at it, it's terrible. Although, I believe that Balkan countries are in a worse position due to the low wages in most of them. For instance, the minimum wage in Greece is €713 before taxes, approximately €620-€650 after taxes, while the average rent for a single bedroom apartment exceeds €300-€350. Don't get me started on electricity and fuel.

Every end of the month, energy suppliers announce the prices for the following month, with kw/h increasing every month. The Public Power Corporation in Greece announced an increase from €0.486/kWh to €0.788/kWh, while in other suppliers it might cost up to €1/kWh. It's astonishing. In the meantime, the government is funding oil and electric suppliers, who are soaring millions in profits in the past few months.

This situation is only worsening; living is constantly becoming more expensive and has started to have psychological effects too. As I've said earlier, I'm not used to moaning about money, because I still have cryptocurrency investments and so on, and there are plenty of people who are struggling way worse than I am, however, working two jobs, over 10 hours a day and I still see my bank's balance being slowly drained every month. I'm not anxious about today, but for the future, since the situation only seems to worsen day by day, making me sick to my stomach from anxiety.

How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?

What many people seem to be overlooking is you're thinking this is the peak, the worst part of this economic cycle - in most places it is still business as usual and only at the beginning of the recession ahead. It's predicted to be slow and unfortunately it will lead to a downward cycle that compounds itself. People as for more money as inflation eats away at the value of what they've got, then companies have to charge more to pay the extra costs to staff, which increases inflation even further. We have not even started the bad scenario yet, many people are still running on fumes left over from saving during Covid (at least the lucky ones who could) and the next few months into winter especially will create much harder times.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Upgrade00 on August 22, 2022, 08:28:47 PM
How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?
Except one is a producer, or running a business where you can easily push inflation costs on to the customers, we are all hard hit by the rising inflation and cost of living. It's like the elephant in the room that keeps growing.

I'm from Nigeria, and I'll say we have had lots of experience with coping in similar situations, as series of bad governments has resulted in rising inflation and cost of living long before covid or oil crisis hit. The general struggle is keeping your income able your expenses, and finding a way to salvage some of it for savings or investments. This is not always easy, as jobs are not readily available or well paying.
Finding ways to cut down expenses to a minimum also helps leave out more for savings/investments.

I don't expect any improvement in the next couple of months or years globally.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 22, 2022, 09:01:26 PM
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What many people seem to be overlooking is you're thinking this is the peak, the worst part of this economic cycle - in most places it is still business as usual and only at the beginning of the recession ahead. It's predicted to be slow and unfortunately it will lead to a downward cycle that compounds itself. People as for more money as inflation eats away at the value of what they've got, then companies have to charge more to pay the extra costs to staff, which increases inflation even further. We have not even started the bad scenario yet, many people are still running on fumes left over from saving during Covid (at least the lucky ones who could) and the next few months into winter especially will create much harder times.
I acknowledge that this is simply the beginning. That's the main reason why I mentioned that I'm not too frustrated today, but in the future, the worst is yet to come. As someone who is already seeing his balance slowly drain, while renting a relatively cheaper than average house (which has several issues, but you're unlikely to find one that doesn't for €250), it's disheartening to see that after all these long working hours, you're still going slowly in debt, or just barely enough to cover your expenses.

How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?
Except one is a producer, or running a business where you can easily push inflation costs on to the customers, we are all hard hit by the rising inflation and cost of living. It's like the elephant in the room that keeps growing.

I'm from Nigeria, and I'll say we have had lots of experience with coping in similar situations, as series of bad governments has resulted in rising inflation and cost of living long before covid or oil crisis hit. The general struggle is keeping your income able your expenses, and finding a way to salvage some of it for savings or investments. This is not always easy, as jobs are not readily available or well paying.
Finding ways to cut down expenses to a minimum also helps leave out more for savings/investments.

I don't expect any improvement in the next couple of months or years globally.
I've come to the conclusion that inflation is a vicious cycle. Electricity and fueling becomes more expensive, producers struggle making ends meet and are forced to increase the prices, burdening the consumers. This pattern goes on and on, breaking it sounds impossible.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Upgrade00 on August 22, 2022, 09:06:59 PM
I've come to the conclusion that inflation is a vicious cycle. Electricity and fueling becomes more expensive, producers struggle making ends meet and are forced to increase the prices, burdening the consumers. This pattern goes on and on, breaking it sounds impossible.
Hyper inflation, when rolling, is a difficult Stone to stop, but not impossible.

The circle of increasing prices of goods, due to increase in value of other goods, can make it difficult for regular people to cope with overtime as the prices of goods and services gets ridiculously high.
But it can definitely be stopped or reversed, if a favourable economic condition sets in or due to effective fiscal policies.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: serjent05 on August 22, 2022, 09:25:50 PM

How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?


I think the scenario is the same everywhere, it is really hard nowadays due to basic needs getting expensive.  But no matter how hard life is we need to think positively in order to at least minimize the psychological impact of inflation.  To at least combat this kind of inflation we need to find sideline jobs in order to have another source of income, be thrifty, and don't waste food.  A small adjustment to expenses is a huge relief when accumulated.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: TheNineClub on August 22, 2022, 09:31:57 PM
Well, obviously the efects of inflation are felt both financialy and mentaly, depending on ones financial position that is. But what needs to be looked at here is the long term effect it has on people and what issues it brings down the line because not everything can be felt imediatelly. If inflation causes further economic turmoil that lead to more sever conseqences like unemplyment, that that effects a whole lot more.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: countryfree on August 22, 2022, 10:32:22 PM
Lots of pessimists here!
The biggest problem I see around me is a shortage of qualified and experienced workers.
If you're a professional with a good qualification, you don't have a single reason to worry. Salaries are on the rise, too.
If you don't have a good qualification, get one.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Rruchi man on August 22, 2022, 10:35:37 PM
Prices of goods are increasing every week
The cost of everything is on the increase and increased inflation rate is not just peculiar to Greece or the Europe, but also Africa even Nigeria. As inflation rate is said to have been recorded by the by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) (https://nairametrics.com/2022/08/15/breaking-nigerias-inflation-rate-surges-to-a-17-year-high-of-19-64-in-july-2022/) as 19.64% in July 2022, the highest rate it has been in over a decade. In June 2022, it was 18.6%. You can see that it is on the rise and it prompts me to think what the figures will be in like two months more if the situations continue to progress in this path and manner.

This situation is only worsening; living is constantly becoming more expensive and has started to have psychological effects too.
The thought of if things will ever get better is on its own very stressful.

How are you currently coping?
The price today is not the price in a couple of days, so to avoid being shocked, if it is within your means, buy commodities and things you need in bulk to store if possible, that is what I do.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: edgycorner on August 22, 2022, 11:38:30 PM
It is difficult to say how long this current period of inflation will last. However, it is important to remember that there are always ups and downs in economies and this too shall pass.

In the meantime, it is important to find ways to cope with the current situation. One way to do this is to cut back on unnecessary expenses and focus on essential needs. Another way to cope is to find ways to increase your income. Like finding ways to make extra money through side hustles(you could try trading your crypto investments on a p2p platform, there's a good margin of around 3~4% at some sites or provide your services at platform like upwork & give a couple of hours daily) .

Anyways, it is important to remember that this is not the end of the world and that things will eventually improve :) Tough times make tough people.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: virasisog on August 23, 2022, 04:14:11 PM
We've been through this kind of inflation crisis before but this one is quite harder. It will be a big challenge for the government as well as the ordinary citizens especially those who are just trying to survive life. Everything striked up including the prices of the primary goods and other necessities which is really challenging for our daily living. It's stressful and challenging each day but we'll only be dragged into worse situations if we'll just stay negative about this crisis. We can't control the increasing inflation but we can do everything to survive. Continuous grinding and hassling is the best thing that we can do and hope to see things get better in the future.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ucy on August 23, 2022, 04:46:44 PM
It's mostly connected to the sanctions against Russia. If Russia's Special Op was wrong the inflation wouldn't have happened despite the sanctions. I advised against the sanctions earlier, warning that it will result to problems to those imposing it but the warning was ignored.

I think the problem should be resolved once the sanctions are reversed and more mistakes are not made. Russia should be supported to do what is right. It's wrong to embarrass and shame her infront of her younger siblings/neighbors who should show her some respect ... the worse is encouraging the siblings/neighbors to fight the senior.

*The sanctions should be reversed & the right thing done, for the sake of Europe

 


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: uneng on August 23, 2022, 06:11:38 PM
How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?
Here in our country we are living an electoral year, what means politicians try to make economy looks best as possible in order to be re-elected by the population. This is the time they raise welfare programs payrates, print more money to afford the obligations, subsidize the prices of fuel, electricity in a unsustainable manner and the worse part of it is that we are always under the rule of the same thieves, doesn't matter which party wins the competition, because the strongest political group in the country doesn't have an ideological flag, so they always stay at the winner's side, in exchange of personal benefits that involve increasing public expenses considerably for that purpose, besides overpricing tactics in public projects and constructions, what is possible because they occupy strategical leading spots inside the government.

And even though they are trying their "best" to manipulate the economical scenario it's still pretty bad. Each new week the prices of basic goods are more expensive at supermarkets. That is what concerns me, because I know from next year on, or as soon as this clownery they call elections end, it's going to get much worse...

I was thinking yesterday and realized in 3 years the minimum wage has been raised in almost 30%! Now imagine how much the price of products have been raised on the same period of time.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 23, 2022, 07:37:45 PM
How are you currently coping?
I am the same as you before that I don't think about inflation and I'm careless since I'm earning a living and still living comfortably. But when these high rates of inflation came out, I started to notice that the prices have increased and my groceries weren't that much anymore with the budget that I allocate weekly. Honestly, I'm trying to cope and save as much as I can and I'm also teaching my immediate family to understand what this inflation is doing to us and it's certainly bad and worrying unlike before. We don't have that type of extravagant living so, living frugally is helping us since we've been accustomed to this type of living. But as the main person who's responsible for most expenses in my family and as a breadwinner, it seems that I'm the one that has to deal with it, alone. So far, I can say that I'm still coping through having side hustles and my passive income is sort of having problems because of the delay of payments of my tenants so, it's affecting my finances as well. Although it is still able to pay our bills monthly, that's already good for me/us and I'm grateful with that.

Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years?
I'm hoping that it will and most countries or the entire world recovers from all of these factors that are giving us that hard inflation. Nevertheless, we're still the ones to look for ways how to deal with it and survive as much as we can. The rich are getting richer in this situation and hoping that we'd be the same as their situation that no worries even though there are too many economic problems for so many of us.

What coping mechanisms have you developed?
Budgeting, I'm the one who budgets our expenses, and having that said, it results in lesser to no savings at all but I've got my investment reserved in bitcoin and I know someday that all of these enduring moments will be worth it.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Anonylz on August 23, 2022, 08:51:18 PM
I believe the situation is the same almost all over the world, nearly every country is battling high inflation, the cost of living is getting high on a daily basis and governments are not able to curb it at the moment.
In this current situation, those who have less dependent will have less impact from inflation as they will still be able to maintain a healthy standard of living and save at the same time. for those with lots of families depending on them, the situation is different, the burden to provide for more people will weigh you down and no doubt the situation will take a toll on you, mentally and financially.
There is no other solution than to cut expenses to the bearest minimum, at least till when the economy is able to recover a bit, even though no one knows when that will happen (if it will).


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ivartheragnarson on August 24, 2022, 05:33:51 AM
i would not mention my country what is. but need to mentioned what we bought for $100 , now more than $250 in a one year.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 24, 2022, 09:04:10 AM
Lots of pessimists here!
The biggest problem I see around me is a shortage of qualified and experienced workers.
If you're a professional with a good qualification, you don't have a single reason to worry. Salaries are on the rise, too.
If you don't have a good qualification, get one.
Not always the case, I have a degree in Economics and a Master's in progress, I didn't find much in my town and those available weren't paying more than I'm earning now.
It's mostly connected to the sanctions against Russia. If Russia's Special Op was wrong the inflation wouldn't have happened despite the sanctions. I advised against the sanctions earlier, warning that it will result to problems to those imposing it but the warning was ignored.

I think the problem should be resolved once the sanctions are reversed and more mistakes are not made. Russia should be supported to do what is right. It's wrong to embarrass and shame her infront of her younger siblings/neighbors who should show her some respect ... the worse is encouraging the siblings/neighbors to fight the senior.

*The sanctions should be reversed & the right thing done, for the sake of Europe
That's partly true, however, the energy and fuel crisis was already starting from September 2021, certainly, it wasn't as awful as now, but it didn't magically happen due to the war. You're right, though, the sanctions totally backfired, and it was expected. I don't understand what they were thinking when imposing them.

I was more interested in the parameters on the psychological effect of inflation but it seem it only personal and no parameters. Are you from Greece? The effect might be different for countries struggling with their economy already. There is also relief in the psychological effect when Government show concern by responding to the agony of the citizens with regular and showing awareness at all platforms.
All countries are suffering from inflation, however, some are experiencing it worse than others. I'm from Greece, the situation is worsening day by day due to the elected party of Mitsotakis New Democracy, we've been featuring headlines for some of the worst corruption scandals in the world, while Mitsotakis instead of taking measures to tackle inflation, he's boosting rich corporations by subsidizing them, achieving billions in profits per month.

Things were getting better when Tsipras with Syriza was elected, for sure, he wasn't the best, but wages had increased while V.A.T was reduced in food items. On top of that, it was the first in years that the economy (in terms of GDP) was improving. It was going downhill with other political parties and during Tsipras election, the fall was halted and started recovering.

https://i.ibb.co/JqXFL5f/118792383-1702150283283041-4830732442546028627-n.jpg (https://ibb.co/3vtYXBD)


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: davis196 on August 24, 2022, 10:31:06 AM
10% inflation is no reason to panic and get depressed. Many counties have suffered hyperinflation in the past and the population of those countries has found a way to overcome the difficulties.
I'm sure that inflation will get under control in the spring of 2023(if nothing bad happens until then).
The central banks started raising the interest rates. Fuel prices (mostly oil) will slowly decrease, because the global economy is slowing down.
Inflation doesn't have any mental effect on me. I know it sucks and I started consuming less goods and services, but this isn't the end of the world and I'm sure that I can survive this period.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Die_empty on August 24, 2022, 12:13:07 PM
How are you currently coping? Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years? What coping mechanisms have you developed?
Except one is a producer, or running a business where you can easily push inflation costs on to the customers, we are all hard hit by the rising inflation and cost of living. It's like the elephant in the room that keeps growing.

I'm from Nigeria, and I'll say we have had lots of experience with coping in similar situations, as series of bad governments has resulted in rising inflation and cost of living long before covid or oil crisis hit. The general struggle is keeping your income able your expenses, and finding a way to salvage some of it for savings or investments. This is not always easy, as jobs are not readily available or well paying.
Finding ways to cut down expenses to a minimum also helps leave out more for savings/investments.

I don't expect any improvement in the next couple of months or years globally.
Nigerian government is not even making the situation easy for the inhabitants of that nation. They are increasing taxes in different areas. Custom duties, electricity bills, VAT, bank charges are all increasing and the government has failed to increase salaries. Cutting expenses in Nigeria would be very difficult because the naira is loosing value everyday, thereby reducing the purchasing power of the people. Investment is far from the reach of Nigerians because people are just striving to survive.

Global economic improvement would be gradual and relative. Gradual because until the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is settle, global economic growth would continue to shrink. Relative because financially prudent nations would come out of recession earlier than the corrupt and wasteful nations. Nigeria is experiencing the oil boom yet they still borrowing to fund budget because of corruption and waste. But, Saudi Arabia is using the part large profit they are making to settle their national debt and the other portion is been used to expand oil producing capacity of the kingdom.      


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: $anounimus$ on August 24, 2022, 04:01:10 PM
Of course, with a situation like this dominantly making people still deal with the effects of rising prices, even the smallest component like us also feels the impact of trying to slowly reduce the level of spending.

These are probably just a few minor tactics worth trying. I'm trying to develop some coping mechanisms such as scheduling food shopping, and eating at home more often because part of what makes inflation so annoying is that it destroys the value of the money we already have, and to actually live comfortably just got worse.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 24, 2022, 08:55:53 PM
10% inflation is no reason to panic and get depressed. Many counties have suffered hyperinflation in the past and the population of those countries has found a way to overcome the difficulties.
I'm sure that inflation will get under control in the spring of 2023(if nothing bad happens until then).
The central banks started raising the interest rates. Fuel prices (mostly oil) will slowly decrease, because the global economy is slowing down.
Inflation doesn't have any mental effect on me. I know it sucks and I started consuming less goods and services, but this isn't the end of the world and I'm sure that I can survive this period.

As I've mentioned earlier, I'm not facing major issues currently, however, I'm working a lot, have cut back on most expenses, and it's a huge struggle to put money aside, while in the past, I spent a lot more money for personal entertainment (dining out, going to a bar etc.) and still managed to save each month. Nowadays, there are months that I'm spending more than I make, slowly draining my savings.

If this situation worsens in the near future, something which is certain, then I'll definitely face financial issues. Money isn't the only matter troubling me, as I've said previously, higher paying jobs are quite limited while the current political party is sending the country straight to the gutter, driving us, citizens, into a state of despair. We're officially one of the most corrupt countries in the EU and the lowest ranked European country for press freedom.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Lucius on August 25, 2022, 11:00:20 AM
I have to admit that I have never experienced such a drastic increase in the prices of literally everything, because some things go up by 100% literally overnight. People are still somehow dealing with it and trying to change their habits, but if inflation runs rampant during the summer, what will happen when winter comes?

Until now I was optimistic and hoped for better, but unfortunately now I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel which is getting longer and darker. People can endure everything, but if they can't put enough food on the table every day, I'm afraid that some will turn to crime, and that dissatisfaction could cause major riots and protests. The EU will be put to the test in the coming months, but I think that everyone should do their best to find the strength to endure.



We're officially one of the most corrupt countries in the EU and the lowest ranked European country for press freedom.

I know what you mean, it's not much better in my country either - the former prime minister is in prison, the current one has already changed almost all the ministers several times because they were all accused of abuse of position and criminal activities. We have more than 400 000 fewer people in the country than 10 years ago and record earnings from tourism, which for now has no effect on ordinary people.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: jaberwock on August 25, 2022, 11:28:42 AM
It is difficult to say how long this current period of inflation will last. However, it is important to remember that there are always ups and downs in economies and this too shall pass.

In the meantime, it is important to find ways to cope with the current situation. One way to do this is to cut back on unnecessary expenses and focus on essential needs. Another way to cope is to find ways to increase your income. Like finding ways to make extra money through side hustles(you could try trading your crypto investments on a p2p platform, there's a good margin of around 3~4% at some sites or provide your services at platform like upwork & give a couple of hours daily) .

Anyways, it is important to remember that this is not the end of the world and that things will eventually improve :) Tough times make tough people.
I think that inflation is already stapled. It doesn't end but it only grows. Hoping or waiting for it to stop won't work but why not do something which can help us survive in this difficult situation? We can apply some of things you said there like skipping things which aren't really needed. They can be beer, cigs, gambling. Not only that we can save enough money but we will also feel a better person.

There will be no health, emotional and mental issues that we can feel. When you can do that, you can choose to not do a side hustle but if you can't leave your bad habits and will still prefer to live like a king then you need to grind much harder.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 26, 2022, 09:18:59 PM
Until now I was optimistic and hoped for better, but unfortunately now I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel which is getting longer and darker. People can endure everything, but if they can't put enough food on the table every day, I'm afraid that some will turn to crime, and that dissatisfaction could cause major riots and protests. The EU will be put to the test in the coming months, but I think that everyone should do their best to find the strength to endure.



We're officially one of the most corrupt countries in the EU and the lowest ranked European country for press freedom.

I know what you mean, it's not much better in my country either - the former prime minister is in prison, the current one has already changed almost all the ministers several times because they were all accused of abuse of position and criminal activities. We have more than 400 000 fewer people in the country than 10 years ago and record earnings from tourism, which for now has no effect on ordinary people.
So did I, but it honestly looks pretty pointless anymore. I started hoping for a small relief after Crude oil's value dropped, but it wasn't long lasting. Not only did oil surpass $100/barrel, but also the exchange rate of EUR/USD has gone downhill.

The worst thing in this situation is our government, it's so corrupt that's not helping its citizens. Greece has made the headlines several times in the last few months, by world renowned news websites, such as NY times, exposing our corrupt government and the scandals they're involved it. How am I supposed to not be hopeless when I'm working so many hours and seeing them not give a single damn for the country and its citizens.



Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Gyfts on August 26, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
Approximately since March, inflation has started taking a toll on me, first financially and then psychologically. At first, I wasn't really bothered; it wasn't that extreme and wasn't too worried. I was still making ends meet without too many issues and still managed to save a little, without taking into account my cryptocurrency investments. However, as time passes by, it gets worse and worse. I believed that the tourism sector could slow down the recession in Greece, but that didn't happen. Prices of goods are increasing every week, while electricity bills have soared.

Some industries are more recession proof than others -- tourism is a tough industry to weather out during a recession. The first expenses people cut are vacations and travel.

Do you believe that we'll see any kind of improvement in the next few months/years?

No, probably not. I'd love to sugarcoat it, even for my own sanity considering a large portion of this recession was inevitable had COVID policy been handled different, but the state of stagflation lasts years. Greece will lag behind the curve in terms of the recovery if a larger portion of its GDP is affiliated with tourism. You'll need to wait for Europe to regain economic control, presumably the U.S. as well before smaller economies follow.

Setting aside the battered economy from COVID, Ukrainian war will likely last years so the absolute earliest I'd see a return to pre-pandemic GDP/inflation rates is probably 2025-2026.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Republikcoin.com on August 27, 2022, 01:33:28 AM
Of course, with a situation like this dominantly making people still deal with the effects of rising prices, even the smallest component like us also feels the impact of trying to slowly reduce the level of spending.
I've even worked out my spending levels on a monthly basis to not spend money on things I don't need. And that I did not because of inflation or the like, but rather to save my personal expenses in life.

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These are probably just a few minor tactics worth trying. I'm trying to develop some coping mechanisms such as scheduling food shopping, and eating at home more often because part of what makes inflation so annoying is that it destroys the value of the money we already have, and to actually live comfortably just got worse.
You have to get used to things that are a little difficult in order to enjoy them until you are really comfortable with these conditions. Due to the issue of eating at home more often, I think it should be done and I have rarely left the house since last year so I always stock up on food to use for one month before I buy more stock for the next month.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Silberman on August 27, 2022, 04:47:27 AM
10% inflation is no reason to panic and get depressed. Many counties have suffered hyperinflation in the past and the population of those countries has found a way to overcome the difficulties.
I'm sure that inflation will get under control in the spring of 2023(if nothing bad happens until then).
The central banks started raising the interest rates. Fuel prices (mostly oil) will slowly decrease, because the global economy is slowing down.
Inflation doesn't have any mental effect on me. I know it sucks and I started consuming less goods and services, but this isn't the end of the world and I'm sure that I can survive this period.

The only problem that I see with this is that this is the best possible scenario that we can expect, and I personally hope that is what happens, however what if something happens which makes it impossible for the current inflation crisis to be resolved as quickly? That is when things are going to get complicated because the tools the governments have at their disposal in order to control what is happening will become even more ineffective, and we could reach the point in which they could not be enough to stop the crisis, and that is when we could begin to see hyperinflation going all around the world, and such scenario brings simply too much pain to those which are poor and the middle class as well.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Lucius on August 27, 2022, 03:22:06 PM
So did I, but it honestly looks pretty pointless anymore. I started hoping for a small relief after Crude oil's value dropped, but it wasn't long lasting. Not only did oil surpass $100/barrel, but also the exchange rate of EUR/USD has gone downhill.

The worst thing in this situation is our government, it's so corrupt that's not helping its citizens. Greece has made the headlines several times in the last few months, by world renowned news websites, such as NY times, exposing our corrupt government and the scandals they're involved it. How am I supposed to not be hopeless when I'm working so many hours and seeing them not give a single damn for the country and its citizens.

Perhaps it is some kind of curse of our nations that are located in the east or south of Europe, unlike those who are a little happier with their politicians in the west (or at least it seems that way). In a conspiracy theory, some would say that the east must always be worse so that the west can benefit from it, and above all I mean human potential here. Countries like Germany need a quality workforce, and it's no wonder that over 300 000 people have emigrated from my country in the past 10 years to that country alone.

In a way, the corruption and incompetence of our politicians creates ideal conditions for the west of the EU, where people leave to live better - and our streets and cities little by little become a place for some completely different people to live. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a racist and I have nothing against any honest and well-intentioned person, but I'm not in favor of such a way of changing Europe - everyone should have equal conditions for life and success, whether it's Portugal or Greece.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 27, 2022, 07:06:50 PM
So did I, but it honestly looks pretty pointless anymore. I started hoping for a small relief after Crude oil's value dropped, but it wasn't long lasting. Not only did oil surpass $100/barrel, but also the exchange rate of EUR/USD has gone downhill.

The worst thing in this situation is our government, it's so corrupt that's not helping its citizens. Greece has made the headlines several times in the last few months, by world renowned news websites, such as NY times, exposing our corrupt government and the scandals they're involved it. How am I supposed to not be hopeless when I'm working so many hours and seeing them not give a single damn for the country and its citizens.

Perhaps it is some kind of curse of our nations that are located in the east or south of Europe, unlike those who are a little happier with their politicians in the west (or at least it seems that way). In a conspiracy theory, some would say that the east must always be worse so that the west can benefit from it, and above all I mean human potential here. Countries like Germany need a quality workforce, and it's no wonder that over 300 000 people have emigrated from my country in the past 10 years to that country alone.
I wouldn't say that it's a conspiracy theory, the west always had the upper hand, history repeats itself, Germany was ruling Europe during WW2 and despite what happened and the damages they caused, they're still ruling, taking advantage of smaller countries, especially in the Balkan area.

It's no surprise that most countries in the Balkans are behind development compared to Western countries, while were subject to political games such as the Yugoslavian war. 

In my opinion, the Balkans should have never joined the Eurozone and should have kept their own currency (Greek Drachma, Czech Corona etc.), that way, EU wouldn't have such a large influence on them.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Silberman on August 30, 2022, 06:35:04 AM
I wouldn't say that it's a conspiracy theory, the west always had the upper hand, history repeats itself, Germany was ruling Europe during WW2 and despite what happened and the damages they caused, they're still ruling, taking advantage of smaller countries, especially in the Balkan area.

It's no surprise that most countries in the Balkans are behind development compared to Western countries, while were subject to political games such as the Yugoslavian war. 

In my opinion, the Balkans should have never joined the Eurozone and should have kept their own currency (Greek Drachma, Czech Corona etc.), that way, EU wouldn't have such a large influence on them.
There were many criticisms against the European Union back in the day, and I have always personally thought that it was a historical mistake, but it went through and now we are seeing what many people speculated on those days became true, in which a few countries will take most of the decisions and be on control while the rest of the countries will lose their independence, political identity and the ability to take their own economic decisions, it will be interesting to see if they European Union can survive intact the crisis is coming, if they do, this may make the union stronger, but if they fail, then there could be a lot of countries that will decide to leave the union for good.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ahli38 on August 30, 2022, 10:48:10 AM
maybe I can't understand the situation experienced by the OP. because in my country inflation is not too bad. or rather, the news about it seems to be missing. replaced with news of diversion so that people do not panic. but everyone is aware here that every month the price of food also starts to rise. fueled by rising fuel oil. thus making all aspects go up. But the government is good at diverting people's attention. so people feel they are fine. although the value of money has decreased slightly. but fortunately we are a producing country for foodstuffs and mining. so maybe this is why my country is less affected by inflation.


Title: Re: Consequences and effects of inflation | Financially and Mentally
Post by: Ultegra134 on September 03, 2022, 01:37:03 AM
Alright, the official statistics regarding inflation are out. According to the Hellenic Statistical Authority, inflation has slowed down to 11.1%, compared to 11.6% in July and 12.1% in June. In my opinion, the tourism sector, which is experiencing a record-breaking season is to blame for inflation's slow down. However, while this is positive news, because it could have also skyrocketed even further, it's not enough to notice any kind of difference. Goods are still becoming more and more expensive, petrol is somewhat cheaper, but certainly not enough to drive prices down. Electricity on the other hand is 100's of time more expensive than it was. We won't have tourism in the winter to slow down the inflation, what's going to happen then?

Source: https://www.ot.gr/2022/08/31/oikonomia/eurostat-sto-111-o-plithorismos-stin-ellada-ton-aygousto-sto-91-stin-eyrozoni/

P.S Couldn't find an English source for August inflation statistics