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Title: I need your ideas
Post by: Heibo on August 22, 2022, 06:44:19 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Mate2237 on August 23, 2022, 11:01:23 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

suicide is not the best way to solve the debt. I know the reason why you are writing here. ok. let me narrate brief story for you to understand your own reason.

A man wanted to killed himself so he took a robe and went into the forest. reaching the forest, he hanged the robe a big tree for him to die fast. After tieing robe on a branch of the big tree, he took the remaining part of the robe to wrapped his neck, and in the process of wrapping the robe on his neck, he heard a gunshot which was very close to him and it was a hunter killing an animal in the forest. This man removed the robe from his neck and ran away. And came back to the town. What am I trying to say. If you really want to commit suicide you won't come here  to tell us that. You came here to tell us because you don't want to die. So I will advice you not to kill yourself although killing yourself is not in your mind. The best way to do it, it is to do minor works to pay your debt gradually till you see a big job to clear all. The Lord is your strength.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: saxydev on August 24, 2022, 04:47:31 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

One thing is to stop, that's why you have self exclusion. Do not play on casino's that don't have that.

Second step is somehow forget for 1-2 months about the debt even if it might hurt your credit score (if they are too high), you may ask the banks about a delay.

Third step work harder on recovering, maybe this shall be a bigger step for your status to be increased and make more money after this, or continue what you used to do and work for the debt.

DO NOT GAMBLE TO RECOVER YOUR LOSS! You won't!


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: philipma1957 on August 26, 2022, 03:42:11 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

Suicide is a huge gamble.

The down sides of doing it are terrible.

Hell maybe.
worse is nothing.
or how bout you realize you close the loop on your life on a deadbeat song and are told you will repeat your life over and over and over again always ending with the same stupid move of suicide.

I am a compulsive gambler.
I did two intentional drug overdoses trying to kill myself.
I also suffered with acute psychosis along with ptsd for 10 years.  I had a bad life style age 15-28

But I quit gambling.
stopped using drugs
met a girl married her in 1986.
still with her now in 2022.

So if my life is like a vinyl record after some shitty songs the rest are much better.
So you can help yourself. And make some good music 🎼

vs “they are off you lose” from a very old abbott and costello show.

Try to find a gamblers anonymous group near you .

They helped me get well.

I would wish you good luck but you do not need good luck. You need to stop gambling.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: bittraffic on August 26, 2022, 03:55:45 AM

You took a loan from banks, and you will bed to pay them but there is no need for suicide. Normally people will just have to find a way to make money. My fallback if I have a loan to pay I think will be driving a taxi which I could avoid while also making money to pay them later. This could be a choice for you too.

Just face the problem dude, suicide is not a good escape. Just be a man and work it out with them. I don't think they will jail you, that won't be beneficial for them.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Lida93 on August 27, 2022, 06:19:09 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo
Let me sound this loud and clear; when you try to make gambling as a source of loss recovery and source of income you'll rather end up becoming the source of income to others.
While I say this I'll also advise you keep faith and hope alive go out there and source for a legit source of income that would pay your debt for it's not the end up of life but rather life for you has just begun.

Even countries owe debts not talk of an individual. So calm down and be useful.

The bottom line is, never see gambling as a source of living!


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: BADecker on September 08, 2022, 04:24:39 PM
- Don't commit suicide. You might wind up paying eternally for the suicide in the resurrection.


- Don't commit suicide until you find out if the banks or government will come after your family to make them pay the debt.


- Find people you can trust, or if you are in the right country, form a trust or corporation without your name on any of it - let a relative control it - and place all your property that you own with these people or artificial entities. The idea is to get it out of your ownership so that the bank can't take it for the debt.

Find out how long you have to wait, by law, until the new owner can't be attacked because the bank might think you are simply hiding your property. In the US it's 2 years. Simply make payments for that long, but after that, cancel your debt. If you don't go to prison - which you won't in many countries - live off funds you request from people who are running what used to be your property.


- Often, if you go to court over the money, and the bank wins the judgement, depending on what you signed in court (don't sign anything if you can help it), make the statement that you can only afford to pay off a dollar a day. The bank may have to accept this, but don't fail to ever make at least this payment.


- Don't gamble in the future. For example, some people call buying stocks and bonds like it is taking a chance... like it is gambling. But it isn't a gamble if you have looked into past performance and check out dividends. After all, you could trip on the throw rug in your bedroom, and hit your head on the table and break your neck and die. Life is always at least a little bit of a gamble. Do your due diligence, both regarding the rug, and regarding investing.

8)


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: kryptocanon on September 13, 2022, 12:19:15 AM
Thinking suicide as an option is the dumbest idea I've ever heard, this doesn't sound like the best way to go about it. Normally people do own debt and pay it off in due time regardless of how they owned them. I only see it as the irony of life. Believe me, no matter the situation you find yourself in, someone else's own is worse. Know this and know peace ✌️.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Agbe on September 13, 2022, 09:22:12 PM


- Don't commit suicide until you find out if the banks or government will come after your family to make them pay the debt.



Mate this you statement is confusing, The statement indirectly saying that he should commit suicide if the bank authority or the government leaders disturb or came to arrest him or his or her family people. That is if the him or his family people could not pay the debt indirectly he should commit suicide. suicide is not the best option, according to a saying "when there is life, there is hope", he still have hope to pay the debt. It is better for him to loss his property then losing his life. When the bank people come for the debt he should give his properties to settle the debt. Gambling is a game of luck and good predictions, he should should not use big money to play bet again but small amount to play games and win small and big to settle the debt and collect his things back. Or he should use the new wins to start new life. {If there is life, there is hope}. First of all, save your life then think a positive way forward.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Majestic-milf on September 15, 2022, 10:50:00 PM
I don't think anyone here has not made mistakes that are more than yours but the truth is committing suicide is not the best option. It has never solved anything and will not start now.

 Imagine you have nine lives. So for every mistake, you contemplate suicide? You can't run from a mistake because you'd always come back to it, but rather learn from it, then take positive steps to changing it instead of ending your life. That's the greatest gamble of which some people don't come out winners.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: P2PECS on September 16, 2022, 04:53:44 AM
There is a serious problem what the OP is telling us, and that is that the availability to gamble 24 hours a day from your mobile has increased the potential problems associated with it. Add to that the fact that today many banks give you instant loans from your mobile as well and you have the perfect combination for a disaster.

OP, take a cue from philipma1957. You can get out of any serious situation like the one you are in. Just take advantage of having hit rock bottom as motivation to look for a better future.



Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on September 17, 2022, 04:10:42 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo
Hopefully you will find a way out of this and will have learned to change your ways. If not.... Just another case of Darwin at work...


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: philipma1957 on September 17, 2022, 06:30:48 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo
Just another case of Darwin at work...

yeah you can go sparta and not go athens

but the truth is both ways are wrong.

the biggest issue how to separate people and get rid of the bad seeds correctly.


basically we as humans have been pretty bad at doing this.

very likely we will continue to be this way for the near future and middle future and far future.

it is likely hard wired in us to not be able to sort the troubled ones out and help or get rid of them.

ie Charley Manson did not need to spend decades in a prison a ten cent bullet could have saved us some money.

I find him to be a good example of failing to rid ourselves of anchors or rocks 🪨 so to speak.

As for the op I can tell him the last bet I made was in July of 1990 the last illegal drug I took was in Jan of 1991 and the last tobacco I used was on Feb 29th 1996.

And the only person I have been with intimately since 1985 is my wife.

And it has been a very good time for me far better then my partying and gambling years from 1972 to early 1985.

All because i got Athens treatment for my fucked up behavior.

I know lots of people treated “easy” with compassion and their failure rate was over 50%



Personally I would of failed with hard treatment. But I can tell you my bro-in-law got easy treatment much like me and is a spectacular failure. He will continue to be a mess as he has past the point of no return.

He gave himself dementia due to terrible diet and will not recover.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on September 17, 2022, 11:18:32 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

If you have a gambling addiction or problem, this site may not be the best place to hang out as they will show you banner ads that promote gambling websites. Truth.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: P2PECS on September 18, 2022, 09:50:55 AM
If you have a gambling addiction or problem, this site may not be the best place to hang out as they will show you banner ads that promote gambling websites. Truth.

Gambling ads are all over the internet, not only in this forum. In the end, the recovering person has to be able to view those ads in an emotionally neutral way and not gamble again, just as a recovering alcoholic cannot lock himself in a basement and not come out again so as not to see opportunities to buy alcohol. There are opportunities to drink alcohol everywhere, just as there are opportunities to gamble, and you have to know how to live with that without falling back into it.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on September 20, 2022, 03:38:53 AM
If you have a gambling addiction or problem, this site may not be the best place to hang out as they will show you banner ads that promote gambling websites. Truth.

Gambling ads are all over the internet, not only in this forum.
disagree. they're not "all over" the internet. alot of websites contain no blatant banner ads to gambling websites. because they don't accept such ads. i would say most websites do not contain gambling ads.

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In the end, the recovering person has to be able to view those ads in an emotionally neutral way and not gamble again.
you mean like come to the realization that they are going to just lose more money if they keep gambling?


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There are opportunities to drink alcohol everywhere, just as there are opportunities to gamble, and you have to know how to live with that without falling back into it.

alcohol and gambling are not the same.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: P2PECS on September 20, 2022, 04:28:12 AM
In the end, the recovering person has to be able to view those ads in an emotionally neutral way and not gamble again.
you mean like come to the realization that they are going to just lose more money if they keep gambling?

Rather, do not get carried away.  Problem gamblers know that they are going to lose more money, in the same way that a heroin addict knows he is going to end badly if he doesn't quit.

alcohol and gambling are not the same.

Fentanyl is not the same as either alcohol or gambling but the parallel I am trying to draw is that an ex-alcoholic has the opportunity to drink again in a few minutes, especially if he lives in a city and not in the middle of the mountains. The gambler can also return to gambling in seconds with his cell phone. At the end of the day, the one who recovers knows how to live with it.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: jovan85 on September 20, 2022, 09:30:13 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

Try to gambling on horse race or football but with small amount and collect til you not pay bank loan plus find a few extra mini-jobs and work hard.I know several people who have lost money like you.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: meser# on September 20, 2022, 09:39:54 PM
You won't gonna suicide mate. The one who's gonna suicide never look down from bridge. Now you're trying to figure out some solution it means you are looking down! Be calm down firstly, then accept your mistakes. Try to make money and pay banks. If its not enough don't worry banks will offer you some kind of new payment plan. With this new payment plan they will charge you more but they will be sure youre gonna pay it. Pay it and never turn back to gambling. If you failed one more time you'll lose your future and struggle with your mistakes. Don't lost your life and brilliant future.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: xzy887 on September 26, 2022, 09:42:08 AM
Im thinking the suicide.
Suicide is a great sin. And suicide is not the solution to everything.
 Remember people learn from mistakes, you should not kill yourself. because you might have lost all your money by mistake. Now you should learn from your mistakes and become a successful trader. You don't make yourself a coward by committing suicide. Remember that people can change themselves through hard work and effort. So never think of suicide change yourself and achieve success.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on September 28, 2022, 02:32:22 AM

Fentanyl is not the same as either alcohol or gambling but the parallel I am trying to draw is that an ex-alcoholic has the opportunity to drink again in a few minutes, especially if he lives in a city and not in the middle of the mountains.The gambler can also return to gambling in seconds with his cell phone. At the end of the day, the one who recovers knows how to live with it.

well you would think that someone that lost everything gambling it would take them out of play for a while, while they try and build up another bankroll. that would give them time to think about what they're doing. if they go through that cycle enough times, it is probably somewhat self correcting in the sense that at some point, they get tired of being dead broke.

people can do drugs and live a functional life financially. it is possible.

 


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Stakefast on October 03, 2022, 11:36:35 AM
hey bro,

everything will be alright - the sun will come up every day and you will be able to compensate, even learn and earn way more money then before.

I lost a lot through gambling but there are ways to go where you can earn with crypto casinos, such as affiliate.
You can easily build yourself a following and earn referrals and then earn from these casinos, completely for free - with just a little bit of work everyday.

Keep your head up and work towards a better future, where you stake, lock and compound your earned tokens and buy a house and a nice car eventually  8)


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on October 03, 2022, 11:59:41 PM
hey bro,

everything will be alright - the sun will come up every day and you will be able to compensate, even learn and earn way more money then before.

I lost a lot through gambling but there are ways to go where you can earn with crypto casinos, such as affiliate.
You can easily build yourself a following and earn referrals and then earn from these casinos, completely for free - with just a little bit of work everyday.

aren't crypto casinos just scams in that most people are going to be losers so basically this is bad advice in the sense that he will just be trying to encourage people into becoming just like him, someone that lost all their money from gambling.

also he would need to careful that he's not breaking any laws by being involved in internet gambling. not all banks are friendly towards that type of business. but who cares about that kind of stuff right? just post your ads and try and fleece new gamblers for as much as you can.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: mich on October 07, 2022, 07:18:13 AM
Well first I must say I am really sorry to hear about this but committing suicide is not the answer. I would also recommend that you seeks out therapy for this gambling habit and make sure you stay in the program.

There are many treatment programs for gambling addiction and hotlines to call for help. If one of my friends had such a problem as you say you do, I would help them get treatment because I care for their mental well-being.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: spectre71 on October 16, 2022, 01:48:58 PM
I don't know what country your in or laws in your area but bankruptcy is actually a good thing instead of being a slave to bank and your mistakes. They took a calculated risk and "gambled" on you don't feel bad about it.

There are many hotlines at your disposal, maybe your church has or could guide you to some services. Simply walk into a emergency room and they can help you immediately.

Good luck buddy.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on October 16, 2022, 10:40:35 PM


There are many hotlines at your disposal, maybe your church has or could guide you to some services. Simply walk into a emergency room and they can help you immediately.


Depending on where someone lives, walking into an emergency room is a good way of owing even MORE money. mental health services come with a cost attached to them in some cases. just something to be aware of. they can get you into even deeper financial hole. by all means if it's really an emergency then i guess its necessary but they're not your friend and they do want to collect money. hopefully they take bitcoin. :o maybe your first recommendation is better or just talk to a friend.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: BitSwapNow on November 06, 2022, 08:21:28 PM
I would hope this is not a cry for free money or to bring some to feel
Guilt. Maybe you are truly hurt and addicted to gambling . Gambling is a dirty business and the house (site , casino or operator) always wins in the long run. The odds are always against you. Gambling is bad. With that being said you need to keep your head up and be positive and learn from your horrible mistakes . Health is wealth and you can recover form this but suicide you cannot . An honestly to say it bluntly, is a weak way out of current said depression. I think you need to focus more on yourself and those around you whom you care and value you highly. Think of friends and family who would be devastated by your passing…. Lost money is just money. Stay strong my friend !


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Alisha-k on November 12, 2022, 05:28:39 PM
I might not know how much you borrowed from your bank to gamble with but talking to someone closer to you will go a long way. While waiting for the time to payback the loan in the meanwhile getting involved in jobs that will raise funds to offset the debt will be a better option as long as there is life all hope isn't lost.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Dubaian on December 22, 2022, 04:11:11 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.


You don't kill yourself but you try to solve it and admit your mistake. You gambled with the loan from the bank and suffered losses. Now start trending with a small amount without gambling with the loan again. Of course, if you trade wisely, you will be able to earn good profits. Remember that you have to pay off your debt and be careful not to gamble again. Only then will you be able to pay off your debts and have a bright future in your life.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: HajiBagi on January 12, 2023, 06:32:22 PM
Suicide cannot solve your problems because it is against religious law for you to commit suicide, and even if you pass away, I doubt the bank will let you off the hook for the debt you owe them because your family will be responsible for paying it. Therefore, my advice to you is to explain your situation to anyone you believe in so that they can help you and you can also work hard to pay the debt. After that, don't think about your options again or getting involved in anything concern gambling.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: letteredhub on January 25, 2023, 07:06:51 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo
Mate bear this in mind that no matter the depth of the situation we plunge ourselves into suicide is not an option and that's because there's always a better solution or solution's to any problem. You have mad a mistake quite alright but don't make another mistake which is suicide. There have been people that had gone through worst situation than yours but then they never saw suicide as an option ,now today they're stand tall and have overcome the whole issues that weighed them down and I believe yours can be resolved but not through suicidal thoughts,factor that energy of suicidal thoughts to ways of getting solution and you will be 90% way to clearing your debts already and living comfortably. Okay!


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Bitcoin_people on January 26, 2023, 06:11:14 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo
It's best to have an understanding of the casino to gamble on crypto or face huge losses. you may not have a good understanding of the force behind such a large loss. Don't take the suicide route right now, it will never be the right decision for you. you have invested in gambling by borrowing money from the bank, now facing loss, you should completely erase the suicide plan from your head. Otherwise you again take loan from another bank and pay off your bank loan slowly with currently trending crypto market I think it will be suitable for you.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on January 26, 2023, 11:04:39 PM

It's best to have an understanding of the casino to gamble on crypto or face huge losses.
the only thing to understand about casinos is probably that they are scams.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: SirJohnVonSlotty on January 27, 2023, 01:38:33 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

Stop gambling immediately, do a self exclusion on all of the brands that you might think you would gamble again.

The banks can't harm you, they can only chase you, but you can easily earn the money back and pay them off in installments.

Seek help and try to get a steady job, explain the issues to your close friends and members and try to get as much of their support as you can.

You fell in to an addiction, now actively try to get out of it.

You will succeed and it will get better, but it takes time.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: SmartCharpa on January 27, 2023, 09:39:38 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

Gambling is not a good thing to do because, based on what you are saying right now, you may definitely lose your property. It would be better for you to use the money to invest in bitcoin, and if there is any job that you can take on so that you can pay the loan back, do it.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Alisha-k on February 21, 2023, 12:10:31 AM
Suicide???
This is the exact reason why we're advised to only invest or gamble with what we can afford to lose.
Life doesn't entirely end or resolve in gambling so losing a game shouldn't be the reason you'll want to take your own life.

Don't you consider your loved ones and how they'll cope or how your demise would hit them??

Remember, when there's live, there's hope.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on February 22, 2023, 05:01:08 AM
i vote admin locks this thread. it's not serving any useful purposes since the OP only posted once and he probably not even reading this anymore.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: digaran on February 22, 2023, 11:57:48 PM
i vote admin locks this thread. it's not serving any useful purposes since the OP only posted once and he probably not even reading this anymore.
I'd vote for you to go ahead and report it to the moderator, I hope OP is fine, otherwise RIP.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on February 23, 2023, 12:57:28 AM

I'd vote for you to go ahead and report it to the moderator,
done.
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I hope OP is fine, otherwise RIP.

agreed.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Patrol69 on March 07, 2023, 07:07:00 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

Suicide can never solve anything. You may suffer temporarily but if you are patient and work hard you will surely come out of this place.  Before committing suicide you must think about your family and how they might be in your absence.  Good times and bad times are human life. Meanwhile you have to enjoy such a beautiful life. But when man becomes too desperate he decides to commit suicide. But I will tell you to work hard instead of suicide give yourself time and forget about the bank debt you owe for the time being hopefully you will get suicidal thoughts out of your mind in a few days.

Suicide is a huge gamble.

The down sides of doing it are terrible.
@philipma1957
This can help you get out of bad situations.If you trade or bet again according to his signals then I think you will be successful.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: digaran on March 08, 2023, 04:12:08 AM
hopefully you will get suicidal thoughts out of your mind in a few days.
It's been months since he posted, I pretty much am certain if it was going to happen, it would have by now. People who tend to kill themselves for real usually wouldn't talk about it, those who do, are looking for someone to comfort their pain and a little hope given to the person is enough for them to reconsider.

Having that said, you are too late for that hope and comfort. Make sure you never sign up for suicide hot lines. Lol.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: bettercrypto on March 08, 2023, 06:14:12 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

If you are planning to commit suicide because you think you will not be able to pay your debts first, that is not a solution to the problem you are facing.

    That's really the effect of having a gambling addiction that when you realize that you've lost your other possessions, it will make you depressed that will push you to commit suicide. The best thing to do is to gradually stop gambling because it doesn't bring you anything good because you can't handle yourself properly and don't know to manage gambling as well.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Car22 on March 10, 2023, 04:16:03 PM
Suicide is not an option to run away from responsibilities. I understand your situation ,in life there is sometime when we felt that we have lost everything but that is not quite right. Believe in yourself and your abilities .Do hard work and have faith in God .God will you from there where you never thought about it.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on March 18, 2023, 11:07:55 PM

If you are planning to commit suicide because you think you will not be able to pay your debts first, that is not a solution to the problem you are facing.
in some countries maybe you could be thrown in jail for not paying your debts. what if they borrowed money from a loan shark who is threatening to kill them if they don't pay up? generalities all sound well and good but if we don't know their particular situation then i'm not sure how useful they are. offering to help them with their debts, that's a real solution. but of course not a single person here would do that. no one offered publicly anyway.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on May 17, 2023, 01:56:17 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

Hello OP, losing is something we humans hate to accept as part of life, whatever we do we seems to forget that it is either we lose or win. When it comes to gambling I'd never advise anyone to borrow any sum of money to engage themselves in gambling no matter how sure I feel the game is. Is best you use what you have even if it's your whole savings in your account is ok but not someone else's money, just like your case now, you borrowed, used it and lost, who's to blame? You.
I can't really relate a better way of you paying back your dept because you must definitely pay back, with you thinking about commiting suicide, hmm. Is never the best option no matter what, like they say where I come from, as long as there's life there's hope so I urge you to face your challenges and exit suicide from you thoughts. Staying alive is the best option even if it's not for you but for your loved ones.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: I_RodimusPrime on August 04, 2023, 05:06:27 PM
Close your eyes and think these 4 steps carefully, Think what is your true suffering now.

1. The truth of suffering
2. The truth of the cause of suffering
3. The truth of the end of suffering
4. The truth of the path that leads to the end of suffering

These are the four noble truths of the lord buddha. I don't know what your religion is or are you respect other religions, but I always find these 4 as an answer to my problems.
As for the above four noble truths to your life

1. The truth of suffering - Your greed
2. The truth of the cause of suffering - Gambling
3. The truth of the end of suffering - Control your greed
4. The truth of the path that leads to the end of suffering - Get advice from elders, finance company or asset manager

Also, remember this,

- If you suicide now that's mean you are a coward. Because you ran away from problems. You didn't try to solve it, didn't try to find out what you can do?

- If you suicide now that means you are putting your family in a terrible situation. You think that suicide is the only option for you now. But what do you think that your banks or loan sharks will not follow your family? If that happens what will they do? Do they also need to suicide like you?


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Y3shot on August 08, 2023, 03:29:01 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo
Gambling should be the last thing that will make anyone of thinking to borrow money from anywhere to play it. Even in some physical business that the chances of making profit is high it is not still advisable to loan , then to talk about taking a loan to play gambling which can never be predicted if one will win or not. Taking money as loan to play gamble I see it as an irresponsible act, too desperate of having a mindset of winning gambling all the time.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: DeathAngel on August 16, 2023, 09:09:09 AM
Your life is far too important to consider suicide. You have so much to offer & too many people would miss you if you weren’t here any more.

Your life is worth so much more than any gambling debt or money lost. Take some time to digest what’s happened, stand up strong & start to build your life again. This is not a position that is impossible to recover from


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: ltcrstrbrt on October 01, 2023, 07:37:57 PM
    In 2021 I lost $450k  in less than a month ( 28 days, )... Trading and some scam... the main problem was lack of time for trading.. what I bought in the morning I sold on loss in the evening ...it's a long story anyway... In my situation, I was lucky because I had activity building my homestead and also, my first child was born in the next month.. This helped me get through that nasty situation...In your situation, things are a bit different because you lost the borrowed money.. even so you can find solutions, selling a property or stuffs which you owned ... And bear in mind.. when you lose, don't try to get that money back quickly, because you will lose all your money ... take a break.

If you wanted to kill yourself, you wouldn't ask questions here... so you're still looking for solutions, that's a good sign. Keep the head up!


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: TakeItEasy on October 26, 2023, 08:10:36 PM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

Have you ever thought about the family behind you? Or are you the only one who is living at your home? You didn't have any siblings? Or BTW where were you taught that after losing in gambling you would go for Suicide because all options are dead now? Always make the right decision ending life is not a solution to all these, you must be very careful about the family you have and the children or wife you have. This is just the money if you lose today you will win tomorrow.

Losing is never the ending of life simple I mean this. Just take a step behind this gambling and start to live a happy life if you have small money just invest this money in a small business but don't ever choose to commit Suicide. Where and which friend told you that if you got some loss in gambling?


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: EluguHcman on October 30, 2023, 12:25:09 AM
Similar to the thoughts that hits my head where I strives and not succeeding, my friends and co. are making it prosperously out there while I am running out of comport and draining off my positive energies and my ability to productiveness.
It weighs me down more because I am hopeful to be my families bread winner and my mom is seriously in needs that I can't even provide a 3% of hers. Time after times I feels worthless and irreverent so I picked suicide would be best commitment because I can't afford to keep watching my mom and little siblings die on essential needs (starvation)  and Improper healthcares(illnesses) and same time can't be boost to life as a man while amidst of the  successfuls .
I am like getting exploding of swallowing my shameful  and inherited wretchedness and the enemies and opponents keep throwing stones at us(I and family) and we keep being defenseless 😔.

Suicide was beat option for me but I thought of being a coward and stupid if done that because my exit to existence would make no better changes but worsen when I thought of the resultant emotional outbreaks that may cause to my family and specifically to my mom of a tendered and fragile heart 😏.

I asked myself... who would atleast stand a bit blockage when the enemies comes to attack my family at my absents?  Who next do I pass the wretched inheritance if I don't stay alive to make the change?
With these reasoning, I was fit to stand, face my fears, I fell and stood again and again til... I was "made whole" being in a great height without getting to the hill yet where unbelievable performance was made a reality.
Now, i and my family lives a royal status and even wishes death doesn't exist because we could at the end of the tunnel dines and wines in-between paradise and the heavens.

Suicidal is never and can never be an option for where there is life is said to be hope.

However, gambling is a tendency to lost on the run of trial to get rich and never an investment as a source of income to getting rich.
It would had been a no negative story telling if you have invested the money on genuinely conventional investments or basically of Bitcoin investments.

It is a done deal already that the hands of time can not be reversed but possibly to be diverted or changed.
So, stay alive for the sake of your loved ones.
Keep grinding striving to make success but gambling should not be an option.

I think this thread should give a hint lession on why newbie investors should start with a tolerable capital rate (amount) because this is at times the correspondent  passage that is hit on the head as a caused of unbearable of lost.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Ucy on October 31, 2023, 09:25:42 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo


Well, you call it a gamble, what did you expect? Gamble = big risk... You accepted to take big risk probably to win big. So, you took the risk and lost big then you start feeling hopeless and suicidal.
From a spiritual point of view, it's actually very dangerous to take big risk because if you lose your stuff your unseen bubble could burst and you would immediately feel weak, confused, defeated, hopeless, defenseless and start contemplating suicide. Gambling platforms are where many bubbles are burst, better to avoid them, or just use responsible betting platforms that aren't after much of your money and don't encourage you to take big risk... They may be hunting for talents behind the curtain.

By the way, you should mostly be betting for passion and talent rather than for money. Good Betting/Prediction sites are where you could find gifted seers, prophets, etc.


Nice to see you still posting after creating the thread in 2022


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Sanugarid on November 02, 2023, 05:29:16 PM
That's wrong, it's wrong to kill yourself just because you're in debt. There are many people like you who also have debts but they are doing their best to pay what they owe.
There are many other ways besides suicide and I don't think suicide is an option. Think about the people you will leave behind, the Lord has a way for you to face all those trials, just face them and work hard, don't give up. You can overcome that too, just believe in yourself always. I'm sure you have a better future waiting for you.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: jvanname on November 02, 2023, 08:14:52 PM
I do not think this is the best forum to ask for help with these kinds of situations, but some people do not have trusted friends in whom they can communicate these matters with (the people on this forum are not the best). But the statistical value of a human life was 7.5 million in 2020 (which is about 15 million today because of hyperinflation). So unless your debt is at least 15 million dollars, you should not consider your debts comparable to your own life in any way.

Also, if you are in debt, then the creditor is responsible for lending to you in the first place. Getting into debt is not a criminal offense, so you cannot be locked up for this. You should not take all the responsibility for your situation since the creditor lost money by lending it to you. Give some of the blame on the creditor, and just make a reasonable effort to pay what you owe.

And there are plenty of people who went into debt for reasons that are dumber than gambling. I was a professor, so I know that many people go deep into debt spending years of their lives obtaining worthless degrees from academic institutions who still refuse to apologize for promoting violence against me, so there are plenty of people in your situation, and there are people in much worse situations.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D. (Mathematics)

P.S. If everything was fine up until 3 days ago, then you will need to take much more time to access the situation before you perform an irreversible act. Get some rest. Talk to friends, acquaintances, or relatives. And talk to professionals who can help you with debt. And make sure to think things over for a while.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: Samlucky O on November 10, 2023, 02:26:25 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

What do you want people to do for you?
If you cant save yourself not even.me can save you from that end. The best adviser is yourself.
Life is full of upa and down, no body is perfect no matter how situation seems to be, suicide is not an option. Many people who are suffering more than you are very much alive and are greatful for life. The people whom are blind,deaf and domb, amputated or dignosed with a cronic deases are very much alive and thanking God for life. What more of you. If people whom has the worst case scenario are encouraging themselves what about you I think you are smart and vibrant young man like you will be thinking of such. Note this, no matter the circumstances surrounding you, don't think suicide is the best option.

Sometimes if you feel that the environment you find yourself is not helping matter, you take a walk, interact with friends go on vacation meet new people and learn new things. I think that will solve a little bit of your problem.


Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on November 15, 2023, 01:02:52 AM
Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo

I can understand what exactly you are going through right now as its not a comfortable situation and the banks are not in any position to understand your explanation even if you were to accord them one, but I also want to let you understand that people don't kill themselves just because they went to school and were given assignments that seemed difficult to solve from the question. Remember you are not the first student in that school and you're not the only student who didn't get the answers right on the first attempt.

Just get the formula for the test that life has thrown to you and solve it by applying the formula, your basic assignment now should be to search for the formula just as you would if you were given a complex mathematical question, search everywhere you know you can get the formula and get it solved and also note that there are many more of these kinda of life's assigments that will come up tomorrow and suicide is never and option and has never birthed any solution.



Title: Re: I need your ideas
Post by: TakeItEasy on November 15, 2023, 08:23:24 PM
Suicidal is never and can never be an option for where there is life is said to be hope.


My opinion to a person who make some loss in trading is don't ever go through these things which can ruin a person's life and through the suicide of a one person he is not only affected by the suicide but the family behind him also got affected his all relatives also got affected. I have seen there are many people still they are nearer to me they got too much loss in the trading but still they are enjoying their life even some of them have already sold their houses and they money they got form selling the houses they had already invested it in their trading. But still got loss and they are still happy.

The problem is we should think differently and we should always trade with having cool mind, trading is not one day game as mostly people plays it like gambling and they think trading is also gambling which are completely wrong.