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Title: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Lucius on August 26, 2022, 09:53:35 AM
User DigitalMonk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3497607) recently started his digital adventure on this forum and nothing seemed overly suspicious until he opened the following thread How to buy and sell Bitcoin? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410474.0) (archived (https://archive.ph/EpzxL)) in which, as a complete ignoramus who does not know what Bitcoin or blockchain is, he claims the following "For this purpose I have setup an Offshore Bitcoin transaction platform."

Accordingly, @LoyceV expressed his doubts, and @DaveF created a flag, and I reported several of his topics in the Bitcoin discussion, which were all marked as bad. Considering the possible bad intentions of this user and the obvious thread spamming with questions that have already been answered hundreds of times and that definitely belong to the low-value topic, I want to warn you not to waste your time answering his questions.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: LoyceV on August 26, 2022, 10:03:12 AM
Just another poor guy who's bored on the internet, and hopes someone will use him as a middleman because it is "completely anonymous and secure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410474.msg60780679#msg60780679)".
He's on my Ignore list now.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: DaveF on August 26, 2022, 02:07:51 PM
Just another poor guy who's bored on the internet, and hopes someone will use him as a middleman because it is "completely anonymous and secure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410474.msg60780679#msg60780679)".
He's on my Ignore list now.

There are quite a few people on my ignore list, but sometimes you just see the crap coming from some accounts and feel they need a tag. Some of it is probably based on my mood but I would like to think that having a few neg tags and a flag or 2 will stop someone from getting scammed by them. Can't hurt, the odds of posters like this ever going legit are small and if they do feedback can be changed and flag support can be withdrawn.

-Dave


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: KingsDen on August 26, 2022, 02:40:09 PM
I have followed up this user and I discovered one thing about him. This user has different version of life, he claims to be a monk, he also claimed to be running something related to charity and also well involved in bitcoin. But when posting, he seems to forget the version he presented to the forum and as such his real life version keeps interfering with his forum fake version.
This user can therefore not be trusted, I have no option than to support the flag raised against him.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Lucius on August 26, 2022, 04:04:13 PM
~snip~

I know that there are AI that can already communicate very well in the online world and I remember that there was a discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263133.0) about it on the forum posted by @fillippone more than 2 years ago, so I wonder if this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410922.0) is somewhat right when it claims that this member is actually an AI?


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: LoyceV on August 26, 2022, 04:25:36 PM
I wonder if this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410922.0) is somewhat right when it claims that this member is actually an AI?
I don't think so.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: KingsDen on August 26, 2022, 06:53:54 PM
I wonder if this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410922.0) is somewhat right when it claims that this member is actually an AI?
I don't think so.

Not an AI, his words are very much connected at every point in the communication. Just that he believes that he has some kind of  super-powers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410438.msg60783150#msg60783150) in the forum.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: DireWolfM14 on August 26, 2022, 06:55:07 PM
Just another poor guy who's bored on the internet, and hopes someone will use him as a middleman because it is "completely anonymous and secure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410474.msg60780679#msg60780679)".
He's on my Ignore list now.

I hope you're right, but that thread seems far more nefarious than mere boredom would explain.  


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: JeromeTash on August 26, 2022, 08:37:39 PM
The scammers! They come in all different colors, don't they?

The profile deserves the flag raised, warning newbies to keep away from the con artist and his bullshit.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: FatFork on September 01, 2022, 02:44:11 PM
Digital Monk Troll is at it again! The self-proclaimed Bitcoin ambassador has started a thread to appoint himself as an official representative of the cryptocurrency, which he claims will earn him $160,000 per year.
 A Job for Life: Bitcoin Ambassador - Salary: US $160,000 Dollars (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411999.0)

What's more, there is also this:

I will also appoint another 300 Bitcoin Ambassadors who are interested to work in the Bitcoin Embassy in a Official capacity.

If any one want to become a Bitcoin Ambassador and work with me as a fellow Bitcoin Ambassador then you are invited to contact me. Do not worry about who is going pay the salary to the 300 Bitcoin Ambassadors ? That is my duty to find money to pay you for your work as an official Bitcoin Ambassador. There will be a budget for each Ambassador who will be commissioned to go to a foreign country and work closely with government and central Bank.

Although I was initially willing to give this member the benefit of the doubt for asking those newbie questions, it is now clear that this is just a troll account or someone with some serious medical issues. Whatever the case may be, I think it is time for the mods to take some kind of action here. This person clearly has no interest in helping anyone or learning anything, and is just here to troll.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 01, 2022, 03:07:59 PM
Digital Monk Troll is at it again! The self-proclaimed Bitcoin ambassador has started a thread to appoint himself as an official representative of the cryptocurrency, which he claims will earn him $160,000 per year.
 A Job for Life: Bitcoin Ambassador - Salary: US $160,000 Dollars (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411999.0)

What's more, there is also this:

I will also appoint another 300 Bitcoin Ambassadors who are interested to work in the Bitcoin Embassy in a Official capacity.

If any one want to become a Bitcoin Ambassador and work with me as a fellow Bitcoin Ambassador then you are invited to contact me. Do not worry about who is going pay the salary to the 300 Bitcoin Ambassadors ? That is my duty to find money to pay you for your work as an official Bitcoin Ambassador. There will be a budget for each Ambassador who will be commissioned to go to a foreign country and work closely with government and central Bank.

Although I was initially willing to give this member the benefit of the doubt for asking those newbie questions, it is now clear that this is just a troll account or someone with some serious medical issues. Whatever the case may be, I think it is time for the mods to take some kind of action here. This person clearly has no interest in helping anyone or learning anything, and is just here to troll.


Hey !

As you sow, so shall you reap. I am trying to promote Bitcoin officially and few of you disturbing me. For what reason you are disturbing a Digital Monk who has just decided to beco.e become the first official Bitcoin Ambassador for taking Bitcoin in the next stage ?

As you can see, it only amuses him. A sick troll who will only increase his bullshit the more we react to him.
He has a negative tag, and also has a flag, everything that the community could do to warn about the adequacy of this person has been done.
There is only one way out, ignoring his posts, or regularly reporting to moderators. While we feed him, he enjoys.
I think that any normal person will always avoid various jerks.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 01, 2022, 04:11:56 PM
I hope you're right, but that thread seems far more nefarious than mere boredom would explain.  
Still haven't slept yet, and earlier today when I was even more maniacally deprived of it I wrote this in that thread he created about a new section:

I'll give credit to OP for being a newbie who's very passionate and inquisitive about bitcoin (I'm trying to just take his posts and rank at face value and not assume he's an alt account).  Based on his post history, this looks to be a genuine request to improve the forum and not some ignorant noob, although it would have been much better had he indeed noticed the Trading Discussion section, among others, which will probably suit him just fine.

I chose my words very carefully, because for whatever reason I had an itch in my gut that was telling me that taking this dude at face value might be the wrongest of wrong actions.  I've been fooled by fools, cretins, halfwits, lobotomy cases, humans with knives, various animals with either charm or claws, and I don't ever see that trend having an inflection point in my favor.  Oh well.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: DaveF on September 01, 2022, 05:11:16 PM
I hope you're right, but that thread seems far more nefarious than mere boredom would explain.  
Still haven't slept yet, and earlier today when I was even more maniacally deprived of it I wrote this in that thread he created about a new section:

I'll give credit to OP for being a newbie who's very passionate and inquisitive about bitcoin (I'm trying to just take his posts and rank at face value and not assume he's an alt account).  Based on his post history, this looks to be a genuine request to improve the forum and not some ignorant noob, although it would have been much better had he indeed noticed the Trading Discussion section, among others, which will probably suit him just fine.

I chose my words very carefully, because for whatever reason I had an itch in my gut that was telling me that taking this dude at face value might be the wrongest of wrong actions.  I've been fooled by fools, cretins, halfwits, lobotomy cases, humans with knives, various animals with either charm or claws, and I don't ever see that trend having an inflection point in my favor.  Oh well.

Nope, I would just file him under nutjob troll and move on. I don't think he is going to be able to scam people at this point no matter how hard he tries,
His lack of knowledge along with general troll like posts will probably keep most people away but you never know.
May be able to waste some peoples time but that should be about it.

Disappointed that more people are using neutral feedback instead of negative, but so be it.

-Dave


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 01, 2022, 05:19:20 PM
Disappointed that more people are using neutral feedback instead of negative, but so be it.

I think that it's not negative feedback he needs, instead reporting for trolling.
This way he should face at least a temporary ban.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Lucius on September 02, 2022, 03:05:06 PM
Disappointed that more people are using neutral feedback instead of negative, but so be it.

I am very careful with negative feedback, and in this case (so far) it did not seem to me that the user in question deserved it, although there is a very fine line between the fact that you use negative feedback and some other neutral feedback. @NeuroticFish is on track with what I agree with, although some mods disagreed with a few of my reports. However, the option is to ignore or report to the moderator, and I agree that we should not enter into discussions with him because it makes no sense.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: _BlackStar on September 02, 2022, 08:38:14 PM
Disappointed that more people are using neutral feedback instead of negative, but so be it.
I don't use feedback on that user, but I have support the Active flags what you made in his profile.

After I read the topic created by DigitalMonk on this one: A Job for Life: Bitcoin Ambassador - Salary: US $160,000 Dollars (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411999.0) then I can really think that he really is a person with a high level of delusion. I'm untrusted with what he said, he forgot that bitcoin doesn't need someone like him to be a brand ambassador.

Now it seems that this suits him [~].



Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: DooMAD on September 04, 2022, 03:27:50 PM
Certainly doesn't strike me as being of sound mind.  Totally irrational nonsense being spewed in this topic:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412217.msg60881430#msg60881430


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Pmalek on September 05, 2022, 08:32:52 AM
There is something seriously wrong with that guy. The movie Split with James McAvoy comes to mind. Maybe it's multiple personality disorder. We have one person who is trying to learn about Bitcoin, another one who is an official Bitcoin ambassador working out of the official embassy of Bitcoin (in Narnia or some please like that), and a third one who developed an offshore trading platform and wants to talk to Satoshi (probably to teach him about Bitcoin).

The best thing to do is to simply ignore him and let him get sick of the forum and leave. 


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Iron Fist on September 05, 2022, 10:19:09 AM
There is something seriously wrong with that guy. The movie Split with James McAvoy comes to mind. Maybe it's multiple personality disorder. We have one person who is trying to learn about Bitcoin, another one who is an official Bitcoin ambassador working out of the official embassy of Bitcoin (in Narnia or some please like that), and a third one who developed an offshore trading platform and wants to talk to Satoshi (probably to teach him about Bitcoin).

The best thing to do is to simply ignore him and let him get sick of the forum and leave. 

Whatever he is, he's doing a very convincing job at trolling. Some of the things he says are out of place, they're totally irrelevant to the conversation and aren't things you'd expect to hear someone say in everyday life. Either he's a multiple personality disorder patient who takes his other personalities out for a spin online or... maybe a bit farfetched… but, Is it possible that it might be an AI or a bot of some kind?


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: LoyceV on September 05, 2022, 10:34:50 AM
Either he's a multiple personality disorder patient who takes his other personalities out for a spin online or... maybe a bit farfetched… but, Is it possible that it might be an AI or a bot of some kind?
Or just 2 different people sharing the same account.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: DaveF on September 05, 2022, 11:38:31 AM
I'm sticking with troll with an element of scammer. Same as BitcoinMoses: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=955818
Spouting drivel and garbage just to get attention. Sooner or later I am sure they will either do something that is worth a ban or just scam some people and fade away.

Either way, since has been shown the mods / admins don't care the only thing we can do is sit around and complain about it and keep tagging them.

Since we have seen the limits of what is tolerated here is far beyond most other boards it's just something that we have to put up with.

-Dave


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Pmalek on September 05, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
Or just 2 different people sharing the same account.
I don't see the point in doing that if one of those individuals is normal but just lacks any knowledge about crypto and bitcoin. If the person who asks what bitcoin is and where coins are stored is different from the one who wants to reward bitcoin ambassadors with millions of dollars and owns offshore companies, I don't see why he would want to be associated and connected to such a weirdo. 


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: KingsDen on September 05, 2022, 01:29:51 PM
Digital Monk Troll is at it again! The self-proclaimed Bitcoin ambassador has started a thread to appoint himself as an official representative of the cryptocurrency, which he claims will earn him $160,000 per year.
 A Job for Life: Bitcoin Ambassador - Salary: US $160,000 Dollars (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411999.0)

When I see some posts as the bitcoin ambassador created by DigitalMonk surviving on the forum without being deleted or trashed, I'll begin to imagine the level of patience and tolerance the moderators have and some steps which they follow, especially as relate to case by case method.

Some newbies also complain that there is no freedom of speech in the forum, I recently saw one that left the forum because there isn't freedom of speech. If Monk's post will survive till date, it shows that there is high level of freedom in this forum.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 05, 2022, 01:38:02 PM
When I see some posts as the bitcoin ambassador created by DigitalMonk surviving on the forum without being deleted or trashed, I'll begin to imagine the level of patience and tolerance the moderators have and some steps which they follow, especially as relate to case by case method.

Some newbies also complain that there is no freedom of speech in the forum, I recently saw one that left the forum because there isn't freedom of speech. If Monk's post will survive till date, it shows that there is high level of freedom in this forum.

The thing is that while we do have a high degree of freedom of speech allowed here, trolling is against the rules.
However, I did report him, for trolling, I'd guess that some others too, still, no action has been done by the mods.
I can guess that mods' situation is also not easy in this kind of cases (maybe it's hard to tell if it's an illness or trolling, but imho we have exactly the case DaveF has wonderfully described (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411299.msg60887245#msg60887245)), so yeah, he have wait and see what's going to happen.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Iron Fist on September 05, 2022, 08:04:10 PM
When I see some posts as the bitcoin ambassador created by DigitalMonk surviving on the forum without being deleted or trashed, I'll begin to imagine the level of patience and tolerance the moderators have and some steps which they follow, especially as relate to case by case method.

Some newbies also complain that there is no freedom of speech in the forum, I recently saw one that left the forum because there isn't freedom of speech. If Monk's post will survive till date, it shows that there is high level of freedom in this forum.

The thing is that while we do have a high degree of freedom of speech allowed here, trolling is against the rules.
However, I did report him, for trolling, I'd guess that some others too, still, no action has been done by the mods.
I can guess that mods' situation is also not easy in this kind of cases (maybe it's hard to tell if it's an illness or trolling, but imho we have exactly the case DaveF has wonderfully described (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411299.msg60887245#msg60887245)), so yeah, he have wait and see what's going to happen.

Now that DaveF has mentioned BitcoinMoses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=955818), and after reading some of his posts, I think the same guy is behind both accounts, and that they're just trolling here. A basement-dwelling, free-time-having weirdo with an overactive imagination and a sick sense of humor.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: DooMAD on September 05, 2022, 09:52:33 PM
Either way, since has been shown the mods / admins don't care the only thing we can do is sit around and complain about it and keep tagging them.

Yeah, I'm going to try to be more active with that sort of thing.  DigitalMonk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3497607), BitcoinMoses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=955818), Snowshow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3456891) and HardFacts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2642061) all tagged as worthless oxygen-thieves who should appear on everyone's ignore list.  


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Maus0728 on September 06, 2022, 05:02:23 AM
Quoting here for some laughs  :D

At the last, who could be the real Satoshi Nakamoto ?  Any one of the possible Faketoshi or an unknown Alien or person ? Each Post will have a value of 0.10000000 BTC. The winner will win double, triple or multiple amounts of Bitcoin. There will be a Grand Jackpot. The Value of the Grand Jackpost will be won by the one person or multiple person who's Post are correct to find Satoshi Nakamoto. In the Grand Final Round an unknown Bitcoin Address will be posted by Satoshi Nakamoto to confirm his, her, or their identity containing the final value of the Jackpot and a Cryptographic signature by the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

If you want to participate in the Satoshi Nakamoto Bet , you must comply with the rules explained in the # 6 points.

The boredom of this dude is ridiculous though! I mean sometimes I get bored on the internet but not to the point where I conduct a betting thread for a person that does not guarantee to comeback.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: Iron Fist on September 06, 2022, 08:29:30 PM
The boredom of this dude is ridiculous though! I mean sometimes I get bored on the internet but not to the point where I conduct a betting thread for a person that does not guarantee to comeback.

We can be sure that there will always be people who will accept such a form of betting, even under such stupid conditions. Fortunately, the moderators have already removed that thread.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: KingsDen on September 08, 2022, 10:54:52 PM


The thing is that while we do have a high degree of freedom of speech allowed here, trolling is against the rules.
However, I did report him, for trolling, I'd guess that some others too, still, no action has been done by the mods.
I can guess that mods' situation is also not easy in this kind of cases (maybe it's hard to tell if it's an illness or trolling, but imho we have exactly the case DaveF has wonderfully described (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411299.msg60887245#msg60887245)), so yeah, he have wait and see what's going to happen.
Trolling is against the rules and maybe it is measured ethically or by self morals. I mean I have seen some threads being hijacked by trolls and most cases other users act like audience and cheer the drama. In the end, the highest punishment would be the thread locked or messages deleted. Could it be that trolls are handled case by case?

But in the case of the alleged monk, it could be that the mods figured out that his posts are full of frivolities and hence dismissed and marked them unharmful. In the case that Monk want to involve in business, he already got neg tags and a flag in his profile. I believe he should be very much harmless now.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 09, 2022, 07:41:27 AM
In the end, the highest punishment would be the thread locked or messages deleted.

Actually the highest punishments go until temporary or permanent ban. Just look for game-protect, who has taken trolling and scam to a completely new level.

Could it be that trolls are handled case by case?

Clearly.

But in the case of the alleged monk, it could be that the mods figured out that his posts are full of frivolities and hence dismissed and marked them unharmful. In the case that Monk want to involve in business, he already got neg tags and a flag in his profile. I believe he should be very much harmless now.

I can't say what the mods think; I've done my part, although now I feel the (neutral) tag I've given him was almost too soft.
I see now he's playing the victim card: he has a new topic asking why is he hated by the leaders of the forum (heh).


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: crwth on September 09, 2022, 08:17:50 AM
A new thread was created by him.  ::)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412956.msg60907303#msg60907303


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: LoyceV on September 09, 2022, 08:28:03 AM
A new thread was created by him.  ::)
I couldn't resist some sarcasm (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412928.msg60907418#msg60907418) :P


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: dataispower on September 09, 2022, 02:04:33 PM
Accordingly, @LoyceV expressed his doubts, and @DaveF created a flag, and I reported several of his topics in the Bitcoin discussion, which were all marked as bad. Considering the possible bad intentions of this user and the obvious thread spamming with questions that have already been answered hundreds of times and that definitely belong to the low-value topic, I want to warn you not to waste your time answering his questions.
Do you know that best thing to do is to ignore him so that you will not come across to the numbers of it's topic. Sometimes some people ask questions of what they know pretending that they don't know, so such kind of shit post are supposed to ignore them. And again i have notice so many people who were making a shit post when they joined forum newly but later they started making a quality post. Example, is a user called agbe, when it started many people were ignoring agbe but now he has learn and transform it's method of posting, so change can come anytime to any user.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 09, 2022, 02:59:26 PM

Do you know that best thing to do is to ignore him so that you will not come across to the numbers of it's topic. Sometimes some people ask questions of what they know pretending that they don't know, so such kind of shit post are supposed to ignore them. And again i have notice so many people who were making a shit post when they joined forum newly but later they started making a quality post. Example, is a user called agbe, when it started many people were ignoring agbe but now he has learn and transform it's method of posting, so change can come anytime to any user.

Do you mean yourself? But in your case, it's a little different. The posts you wrote earlier look more literate than they look now. Why? This leads some to think that you are not completely honest and are not the real owner of the account.
But your suggestion to ignore the posts is not entirely good, because if the forum does not pay attention to the posts of the trolls, then it will simply turn into a garbage dump.


Title: Re: User DigitalMonk - suspicious behavior!
Post by: dataispower on September 09, 2022, 03:20:11 PM
Do you mean yourself? But in your case, it's a little different. The posts you wrote earlier look more literate than they look now. Why? This leads some to think that you are not completely honest and are not the real owner of the account.
But your suggestion to ignore the posts is not entirely good, because if the forum does not pay attention to the posts of the trolls, then it will simply turn into a garbage dump.

Sometimes it's what people will think. Because i have changed the methods of my writing as many people is making a different suggestion concerning my posts, i do tell someone that i like to make my own suggestion on my ways but not depending for someone write up and phrase it. Every person will make it suggestion with the language and tune of the person's language. So in another way, what makes you to think that i have changed is because of my complain there and you have read it, i think a lot of attention is given to my post, because everyone wants to know the ways i suggest.