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The rise of KYC in many casinos, even in well-known and reputable casinos, makes many gamblers feel that their playing time is almost over because those who previously did not need to do KYC are now forced to do KYC.

The casino argues that the selection of KYC for users is random and not based on anything. But still, the gambler who gets his turn to do KYC feels that he doesn't need to do KYC.

This also seems to be the case in crypto-based casinos as many of the casinos that previously didn't require KYC now do KYC randomly. And many of us complain about this, even though we know that casinos have written about KYC in their regulations. But still, we can't be free and calm in playing gambling, especially to withdraw the money.

Is this unavoidable in crypto based casinos? Or are crypto gamblers also required to do KYC? If so, crypto can't be as anonymous as it used to be because we realize that today's governments have gone too far in controlling a person's identity and what they use the internet for.

And will this trigger crypto-based casinos that use wallet logins to develop better because they don't need to register as usual and only need to connect their wallets to the casino? Or do they also need to do KYC? Or for this type of casino can still be "forced" to do KYC?

KYC compliance is becoming a must for most regulatory compliance casinos and we are going to see more of such casinos demanding KYC even before you gain access to your account as a new player in the future, just like what we see with exchanges like Binance we're a user must go through verification before being able to make a withdrawal or trade on the exchange. So similar situation will occur in casinos soon and we should not also forget that some casinos doot require KYC from players and that is clearly stated on their terms and conditions same with exchanges some do not require KYC but those set of services is becoming limited this day due to government climbing down on none KYC compliance services.

There is a reason why most gambling businesses requires KYC for their gamblers which is to avoid gamblers to use their platform for money laundering. It can be avoided in some cases but if the casino is suspicious of your activity then surely the casino will ask for KYC to clear their suspicion on you through KYC even though you didn't do anything wrong in the first place or rather you are just depositing on their casino and gamble.

I think it is, but as you've said if one after another these casinos are requiring individuals to do KYC then that's it or the player/s will just avoid playing with the casinos instead. There's no exceptions to this rule if the casino in the first place requires it. Well, that part has too many questions to be asked and debate to be tackle but in the first place the casino isn't saying it's mandatory nor the government.

For dApps I think they're not yet conquered by the KYC stuff but I think in the future the government will be eyeing these kind of casinos.

Centralized casinos and other centralized gambling sites will always ask for KYC. If a gambling site have good reputation, having more members, regulators will concentrate more on the gambling site and the gambling site can make KYC compulsory for their users. There are still new gambling sites that do not require KYC, but do not be surprised tomorrow if they request all their customers to get verified on their gambling site.

Gamblers should only think they can not do KYC only on a decentralized gambling sites, but people prefer to use centralized gambling sites, no gamblers that is using a centralized gambling site should not expect the gambling site to request for KYC, the gambling site can request for KYC at anytime.

Take centralized exchanges as example, they are regulated, but there is a decentralized exchange called bisq which is very decentralized and no KYC needed, also are smart contract decentralized exchanges. Blockchain is decentralized, you do not need KYC for it, but if using a centralized exchange, the exchange can ask for KYC at any point in time.

People still prefer the centralized casinos.

Unfortunately, as much as we don't like providing our identification on any gambling platform or any website at all. We must also think that the gambling platform we are playing on is a business which has to follow certain regulatory rules and laws from the country it is based from.

This situation could be unavoidable depending on the platform and how you interact with these platforms especially those who are using VPN and are living on a country that crypto and online gambling is banned. Some gambling platforms are not very strict in regards with KYC as long as they don't detect any unusual activity on your account whether it is VPN issue, Fraud issue, or even a possible log-in attempt on the account. However, there are some gambling platforms who are strict with KYC and some of them require KYC for withdrawal or any huge bet activity on the account.

KYC is not real time big deal for the old users point is its being a trend every type project new / old are forcing the users to make KYC before use in 1 terms its good for security reasons to remove spams but on a side its dengrous as many Scam Projects conduct KYC and then sell users data in the black market that is a big concern for the users.

Since most crypto casino nowadays prefer to have license as it is what most of the players prefer too (assumingly). As far as I know, getting a license will lead the business to be regulated by a governing body. Because of that if you play on their platform, you'll have high chance to be asked for KYC specially if there are issues and suspicions to/from your casino transactions.

Yes, unfortunately, the need for a KYC verification is unavoidable. In the future, all regulated casinos will require that you be KYC verified in order to withdraw money. Personally, I do not like the idea that my personal information is in the hands of some authority, who could connect my personal data to my gambling activities, as this would be an invasion of my privacy. I believe that this opinion is shared by many people in crypto community.


Ultimately, it's likely that a combination of both approaches will end up being used. Complete anonymity may be impossible as the centralized casinos and related companies require some level of individual identification to comply with KYC/AML laws. On the other hand, a blockchain-based platform might be able to provide a more private alternative for those who want complete anonymity in their transactions with the casino.

Most casino sites nowadays require KYC for legit reasons. Its purpose is to protect its users as well as its site from abuse. If a reputable casino would ask for KYC, I don't think it's something that we should doubt because they wouldn't do such a thing just to disappoint their users. They will never ruin their reputation by asking for KYC that most users hate. They will only ask for it for our security and I believe that they will also protect our personal details.

Usually, a random KYC requirement is specified in the casino's ToS and you either have to measure against it or look for trusted casinos with more specific KYC requirements, for example, when withdrawing more than $10,000.

Nowadays, KYC has become a must in online casinos with the implementation of KYC in many casinos. Gamblers can no longer avoid and have to do KYC if they still want to gamble at the casino or when they want to make a withdrawal.

We as gamblers can only follow their rules and if we don't like it, we can look for another less strict casino in terms of KYC. But someday, some, if not all, casinos will require their members to do KYC because the casinos themselves are trying to follow the rules of the existing regulators.

almost every gambling site ask KYC for transcation high amount of crypto from there gamblers users for avoid some illegal attempts like Money laundering . Also some gambling sites make kyc mandatory and sell kyc documents taken from customers on black market . so be carefull to do kyc verification . and Avoid new & untrusted gambling site to pass kyc verification

I think this KYC verification undermines cryptocurrency's decentralized system.  Most of the good casinos require KYC verification for unusual activity or transferring large amounts of funds.  In this case, money laundering happens many times and this KYC step is taken to prevent it.  I think KYC verification is as important as it is a threat to users' data security, but if we carefully select good casinos, then our data will be secure. I think in future we will see more decentralised system in casinos like wallet connecting.

It is not possible to operate any company without obeying the rules of government so any company which physically exist somewhere in this world has to follow the regulations of their government and now every government is aware of cryptocurrencies are getting bigger especially in the gambling industry is the reason why they are bringing new laws according to that.

Maybe in future you will see a decentralized casino which just connect the wallet and operated on its own but the existing casinos are centralized and operated under the license has to take what the government ask them to do.

As cryptocurrency is getting more exposure and traffic it should be expected that all crypto-related gamblers will implement KYC to prevent user manipulation and for the safety of the casino with the authority.

Not every casino do this and some casino which Roobet is among has some tier for KYC and users that are not comfortable with providing their private information to a casino can maintain tier 1.

People complain about KYC implementation by the casino won't do anything because the casino can not operate outside the rules and regulations provided by their Master license holder and crypto payment processing gateway company.

Not all crypto is anonymous.
KYC can be avoided if you avoid the tier that requires private information or find another gambling site that's yet to implement KYC but the reputation and fairness of the casino game are also important.

I believe you're talking about casinos that supported web3.0 here but that doesn't mean things won't change in the future either.

Back again to the portion and convenience of gamblers, because gambling is currently one of the largest financial generating platforms. Be it fiat or crypto gambling, everything will comply with the license. The KYC issue is now back on the surface, but I personally don't really extend the likes and dislikes back to the gambler. Rules are rules, only if you don't like KYC just go to a non-KYC casino. You control everything before betting any further.

I know most crypto gamblers don't like KYC, but nowadays casinos also have to adjust to the reputation and presence of government-detecting casinos. Then you will be given 2 options. First: the casino is closed or the second option is to follow and implement KYC to be free to operate. If we look at crypto casinos, they still give freedom and side to gamblers, namely with the rule that KYC requests will be requested when needed. Doesn't that sound wiser than registering right away and then you have to complete KYC to be able to play?

If so which position would you choose?

if so then its a thing of choice, you keep on with the search for the non KYC ones, to be honest there's a lot to do away with in anything involving KYC, because the information they require do no good than future harm so why the need at first place.


its a lie just make gamblers register with their casino and later to introduce stage verification which is the KYC we are talking about just to unlock some functions.


to avoid such surprises from casinos, always read their privacy policy and make your research about them to a resonable extent.

Casino is a business with a license of the operating country. They must strictly follow the rules/regulations. It is very possible that people use casino for money laundering. In offline casino, it's the heaven for money launderer. So, casino owner are subjected to co-operate with the rules/laws so that they can't simply be used as a money laundering hub. Though I personally don't like to be KYCed, there's no other option when it comes to your turn. They are forced to ask players to go through KYC.

The comparison is not appropriate because the anonymity of crypto and KYC has no relation. You aren’t required to go through KYC because of using crypto, rather you have been asked because they think you as suspicious or they have the rules to follow in their system.

It doesn't change anything. People will be scared that if they refuse to do KYC a casino can hold their money.
Making it random only delays the inevitable. They should rather tell people that it's going to be required and gove them a month to provide documents or look for another casino, but they don't want to scare people right away and instead do random checks which are an obvious attempt to keep players who don't want to do KYC playing.

We don't want to give out our personal information to any casino but in most cases gamblers are forced to do kyc. Completing kyc is not a problem if the casino is reputable, although gamblers are reluctant to provide the information. Casinos say they are paying more attention to kyc to prevent crimes like money laundering. On the other hand, if a user is considered suspicious, the casino may ask for kyc. Gamblers should therefore be limited to reputable casinos, as your personal information may be sold by dishonest casinos.

its going to be mandatory soon. i've seen today that Fortunejack asked KYC to someone who wanted to withdraw $400 worth of TRX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411165.msg60820259#msg60820259). its not really a huge amount but once upon a time we thought casinos will only ask KYC  when funds to be withdrawn is huge enough.

while what FJ did was fair enough to prevent this user from withdrawing his funds because he seem to be lying, its still going to make casino players terrified that it may also happen to them. just like in binance where i'm already verified yet was asked again to verify over again is just scary.

This due to having a casino license as a business that make them require KYC to comply for the authority.

If casino will avoid having a license, KYC might not be required. But this will have lots of cons to the business. Example, when a new unlicensed casino/gambling website opens an ANN here, people will comment always here "why you don't have a license?" If you're serious to your business you should have a license blablabla" that means people here loves submitting KYC and ofc, centralized casino. People always argue that having license is equal to a safe casino. Which also means, providing KYC is equal to a safe casino. Yet later on they will also the one commenting "why casinos most are KYC-required?" See?.

Although this might not always be the case, unlicensed casino might still ask KYC for a reason like making excuses to withdraw user's withdrawal requests and etc. which is an indicator that this casino is a shitty one.

I had already been anticipating for these things to come soon which it is already that expected that these platforms specially regulated ones would really be making out such changes and adjustments
and since they are licensed then what should we expect? Of course they would really needing up to comply for their business to continue to run and planning or tending to go against with it will definitely
affect out your business or would really be on a big problem.Majority of people now do really look for a platform which does have licenses which it would really be that a big thing for them to have
since we know that having a license is a must and whatever things that need for them to comply then they would do it and it will surely be applied into the casino.

You can't avoid it.

Just embrace that fact because the casinos will just have to do what's necessary. Well, for some new casinos, they might not ask you for kyc because they have just started out.

But eventually, they'll be asking you next with it when the implementation is with them and you just can't skip that when you're the one being asked with.

Regulations are getting more strict, those top sites works hard to get the license to operate and in order for them to continue in operation, they have no choice but to comply with the regulation and that’s why KYC are slowly becoming the top requirement for you to gamble.

Though many site still offer a KYC services by of course it’s clear on their terms and conditions that it can still be asked later on, so technically KYC requirement is there and waiting for you to hit a higher level so the site can ask you with KYC, this is becoming unavoidable.

I'd certainly see that KYC becomes an issue in most gambling sites and has probably been opposed by many players. I'd see this will have an impact on the gambling business and lessen the number of players but as long as they will understand that situation and make know the reason why and they will still turn back and play again.

In fact, some known casinos are already doing this, especially those that have huge withdrawals and I think it was still acceptable as this KYC also is referring to the security of our account.

Please some should explain KYC in detail for me. I am trying to understand the acronyms but I can't. I even checked google search to find out the full meaning of the abbreviation but what I see there is more confusing. I saw this "KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER" (KYC). https://www.electronicid.eu/en/blog/post/kyc-know-your-customer-means/en. That is why I want someone to explain it to me.

This is ofc pure bs. Due to international AML/KYC standard, all services is required to have all it's customers with KYC. No exceptions.


Because crypto world become more and more regulated, so I don't see any weird things. Casinos will do "random" KYC until ALL users in their database will be KYC-ed.



No, it's not avoidable in this circumstances. Do KYC or do not play. Or choose newly created casinos without reputation but also without need to do KYC (until some time)



I assume that such casinos have logs with all your connections, like wallet connected + your IP + fingerprint of your browser. It's even better than ordinary KYC

That’s the meaning of KYC, know your customer it means collecting of personal data of your customers so you can track if the source of money came from a good source and of course to know if that customer really met the requirements to play on your site. Many are afraid of this because your data can be used into other purposes and that’s the risk of KYC.

Most of the site now are implementing KYC, we’ve seen many news already with this one and I think we are slowly getting ok with this especially me since I can still feel my security and I can say that the gambling site I’m playing with is really safe and entertaining, though higher level of KYC can still be ask for sure and that is because of the regulation.

It comes to the terms that you sign up with because the terms are in accordance and part of their compliance to their license issuer who adheres to the money laundering policy of the international community this is to make sure that the companies or casinos are not being used by terrorist and money launderer.

It's part of the risk you cannot say that you don't need to undergo if you don't want KYC then play on casinos that don't ask you to go KYC but these kinds of casinos do not have a license and there's a risk playing n these casinos, especially if you are a high roller.

Cryptocurrency casino is an industry and they are under compliance if they don't want to be compliant no domain registrar or web hosting will host them or they will be blocked in many countries, its part of the business and this is to show to the international community that they adhere to the international laws and policy.

It is true that things are slowly changing, now more casinos and exchanges are asking for this kind of information and as this market has gained more adoption most of those new people have no problem doing something like this as it is a very common thing to do for them already, however those which have been here for a long time and adopted bitcoin mostly out of ideological concerns are not going to tolerate this, and since they are the ones that have the most bitcoin then casinos will keep appearing which will try to cater to them and refuse to ask for this information.

A time will come we're casinos will ask for KYC out rightly at the point of registration, some are already doing that but in minimal form, and due to laws on their license they most require to verify the identity of the players to prevent abuse on both side, KYC is not out rightly bad idea but then again not everyone is free with giving out the ids or other documents to a third party.

To be on the safer side crypto casinos always look for KYC from the users. Same time users doesn't want their identity to be revealed. In another case, more number of gamblers get into cryptocurrency accepted gambling platforms just to stay anonymous. Likewise different users come up with varied needs. So, it is our responsibility to analyse and know which all the platforms providing KYC free access and make use of it.

^ Just because governments fighting this money laundering and once the gambling casino has a license it means they have to follow the government protocol as implemented. But that is definitely right, from time to time this KYC becomes unavoidable because most casinos are required to do this in order for them to operate in any country legally. That is a part of a business now related to finance and gambling was belong to that category.

The government still have a control over those gambling site, KYC slowly becoming a mandatory and it looks like if you are already playing on that site, you can’t access your account until you comply with the KYC requirement, it’s pretty obvious that it left us with no choice. If you wan’t to be safe from KYC, then choose a site with no license but of course, that could be more risky for you so I’d rather give that KYC form than to fall on a scam project.

Exactly, in growing days, we can't avoid that many casinos need their users to do KYC to be able todo some certain things on their platform, such as withdrawing funds. Is actually similar to the KYC on exchanges. There are some positive and negative sides to doing KYC. KYC may be used to ensure that the users are really eligible to use the platform based on the country that is not restricted or even the age of the users itself to do gaming on the certain platform. However, KYC commonly needs certain ifnomration. If the KYC only needs email and also name without uploading any ID photo, it doesn't matter because we may use fake identity. BUt if this needs the photo ID, this makes us worried about the security of the data. But, for this ewho don't want to do KYC, commonly they will prefer to move from the platform

I believe in privacy coins and I believe in many casinos that don't require KYC.

You cannot stop or decline to do a KYC as long as you see a license certificate on the site, license certificate is being issued with all the attachments of compliance on it they are not just certificates or numbers, you cannot run an online business that can generate hundreds of thousands or millions without getting into the radar of the authorities, there's legality that these casinos are adhering, there are casinos that took the risk to not ask KYC, but they are always in the risk of getting shut down and you would not want to play on this kind of casinos if high rollers can do KYC what is it that you cannot when KYC is there to prove individuals are not into illegal activity.

There are certain regulations that platforms need to comply if they want to keep their business, and even though I think KYC is a lot of bull crap in a lot of ways, it is what the government asks so it is what we 'should' follow. Personally, I can do the bare minimum for KYC and still be able to play because I'm not that big of a gambler. My gambling activities do not put me in a lot of light. I'll do it but that doesn't mean I don't hate it. It's absurd, and should be abolished but hey, the government wants to always know who spend how much on where.

KYC is a feature that was added in order to protect the gambling establishment. With the widespread and popularity of online gambling platforms due to COVID, governments of respective countries implemented stringent regulations in order to maintain their license. Though KYC may seem sketchy at first, just remember that these companies are somehow forced to do this in order to comply with the laws of their country.

If you think that KYC somehow defeats the purpose of anonymity, then choose a gambling platform that is somehow popular already in order to protect your identity. Remember, big gambling websites would never compromise your information as this would also destroy their long-term reputation that they built over the years.

I don't see the big deal of kyc? You trying to avoid taxes? Underage? Gambling for an illegal jurisdiction? IMO those are the users who would likely have an issue performing kyc for a casino.

This isn't bitcoin from 2009 where kyc wasn't a thing. This is 2022 and governments are imposing sanctions and rules all over the place. These rules trickle down to gambling platforms as well as license providers.

I miss those old days when you don't even need an account to place a bet in the casino, the on-chain days.

The sites that uses KYC are those sites that have a license, but we have some sites that doesn't have a license and have been operating for years now. Sites like freebitco dot in and Just Dice. People trust in those sites even without a license because they are probably fair. If we can verify our bets then we can trust the site. If we can't verify our rolls then our only option is to trust on the casino license and the game provider. It's fun that the casinos where we can't verify our slots roll are the ones that we have to provide our personal information.

But you are right mate, now we are playing with different rules.

Nowadays there are options to skip the KYC, although they are not always in the casino that we are looking for with the promotion that we want or simply the casino decided to update its terms and conditions.

I am not in favor of this type of regularization or control, but it is a necessary reality for the industry to grow, it is that simple, fortunately for the crypto betting niche there are crypto casinos that maintain the non-use of KYC, just be careful with the real crypto casinos that offer that feature, so no problem there are still quite a few and some very popular or renowned.

I don't think this is the prevailing practice among crypto casinos. I think there must be triggers for a certain gambler to be required to undergo KYC. If one has won the jackpot worth thousands of dollars, for example, it is possible that by the time he/she makes the withdrawal, the request would be manually processed and certain personal information would be asked. Or if a player's location is questionable, KYC could also be required. Other suspicious activities could also trigger KYC. So it's not randomly asked from the players.

Yes I have seen many popular casinos asks for KYC if and only if when they found suspicious activity in your account.
As long as you gamble normally, they won’t have the problem and they definitely did not ask the KYC from you.
Nevertheless I have been playing at Stake.com since their official launch and till now made thousand dollars of withdrawal and placed high bets also. Till now I haven’t done any KYC and was easily able to withdraw all my funds.
OP if you seriously need a casino where there is no strict rules regarding KYC, then definitely you can visit stake.com and also please read their terms and conditions before investing or betting any money.

I guess it's not only in the gambling but in almost all of field related with the crypto. KYC is unavoidable. It's caused by any platforms must have complied with regulations. If your account is not being detective as a suspicious account and then you may not be asked to complete KYC verification but the bad thing is this kind of verification has been used by the platform to do shady things for its users. I meant what about completing KYC before try to play?
Some people may don't like it but yeah it may be massively adopted by whole of platforms. The only bad thing is im always seeing people being asked KYC after winning some bucks.

KYC on gambling platforms I think is quite important. and that's not a problem I'm sure. this prevents some bad acts like money laundering. the same thing as CEX exchanges do.
I don't know what the OP's problem with KYC is. but if he takes KYC on a gambling platform I'm sure he has something that doesn't exempt him from playing or making withdrawals. such as underage.

there is one safe thing to gamble if you dont wanna go towards KYC and that is to Play in real casino houses that you can be denied of asking whom you are.
then why still play in casino that ask KYC? there are other sites that does not ask for this lol.
because crypto casino is also can be used for Money Laundering so they are just preventing these to be abused so lets go where it goes.

casino can keep asking for KYC no matter what is the cause , this is their rights and this is our obligation as gamblers.

Some time have good and bad impact when crypto casino gambling should pass KYC for withdrawing or make deposit before start gambling, many gamble choose casino cryptocurrency gambling because they want hidden identity to public, maybe if want upload document ID better choose with fiat or local casino gambling than cryptocurrency gambling. But another positive view with KYC keep away from fraud and cheater bonuses, some casino give bonuses for deposit and become way for cheater if not have to KYC.

In my opinion, almost all casino sites require kyc.  There are some casino sites that do not require kyc.  I don't use casino sites that require kyc.  I have no idea about kyc.  So I stay away from casino sites that require kyc  If I do kyc with my personal documents then I don't know if there will be any problems? I don't want to do problems.  So I stay away from kyc

KYC is hated much but also for some important things such as to prove the validity of the account ownership at the casino this can helpful and sure if the casino could choose they would prefer not to mandatory the KYC but the regulations of the license make them mandatory that.

it is rare towards casino  that ask KYC for depositing because  mostly it is applied when withdrawing because we knew that it is used for questioning the players activity .
it is our prerogative mate because casino houses does not force us to play for them , instead we are free to choose where to play.
exactly , that is the betterment of casino that ask for KYC because we are free from scam and also our details are safety.

Some casinos in Costa Rica and Curacao don't do KYC at all. Some only require a small portion of players to comply to KYC.

Some of the gambling casino supported the use of the KYC because this is another security layer for the user at the same time but of course it is a crypto currency many players would like to make themselves anonymous but having a KYC is one of the way to make sure they are not real player and not just using a bot also most of the time it require for withdrawals for large amounts. Still this kind of thing is just not mandatory to the players and still a personal preferences.

Tough shit.

What needs to be done is to adapt. It is rare nowadays to use sites where money is moved and not have to do KYC, even at a basic level. Casinos have been imposing more and more KYC and the only thing we can do is to be aware of it and act accordingly.

There are still a few casinos that do not require KYC, but if those casinos impose KYC in the future, there is nothing we can do about it, as fiat casinos require KYC, both land-based and online.

There is no other reason a gambling site is requesting their customers to do KYC than for anti-money laundering and other online criminal activities, I do not see it as anything wrong for gambling site to ask customers for KYC as long as the customers have no skeleton in their cupboard, they should not see offensive.

I do not understand this, you mean gambling site will help their customers in black market to provide KYC? I doubt that, only a scam gambling site can do that, but a scam gambling site would look for ways their victim would find easy to deposit rather than KYC issues or stories

But we should avoid fake verification, even on reputable gambling sites.

Probably fair? I'm sure you meant provably fair.  :D

The trustworthiness of a casino sites is not necessarily directly related to whether their games are provably fair or not. Rather, trustworthiness is related to their reputation, which is built up over time. A provably fair mechanism may ensure that players are betting on games that are fair, but that does not mean that the casino can't deceive them and refuse to honor their winnings. This is especially true for new casinos that have yet to establish a good reputation in the gambling community. So, it is important for prospective bettors to look at the reputation of the casinos and verify that they have a history of fair play and then check out their games if they are provably fair, or else to avoid dealing with casinos that lack that reputation.

I think you just woke up so your eyes are blurry . Here I have clearly stated that some scam gambling sites they collect kyc documents from their customers and sell it in black market for complete some illegal works. I have not said anything difficult here which may be difficult for you to understand

that is what exactly the point here , why people still make this an big issue when it is given that once there is a Money flow then there should be a security or as we called KYC . and if you are not willing to deal with it then best to find other place to do your things that is a common way of treating these kind of people.
they wanted to deposit and withdraw without anyone noticing them? that is a complete BS for me.

actually they are not imposing according to their TOS but I believe that once in a while? if they find inappropriate activities for the said account? then surely they will send the players for KYC .

If the casino gambling platform you entered asks for KYC from all gamblers who want to gamble here, I think there is nothing a gambler can do but follow the rules that the gambling platform has if gambling is underregulated by the government.

However, if an online gambling platform is not regulated and asks gamblers for KYC, I think this platform is implementing a bad system on its platform. So I think it's better to gamble on a gambling site here in crypto where you don't need to signup instead you just connect your wallet address to the platform and one of the examples of this gambling platform is the OWL gambling site. In this system, it can be said that if every gambler who plays here is really anonymous unlike those who ask for KYC, it is not really anonymous.

The casino will ask KYC when you withdraw and many of the gamblers are asked for KYC not because of being suspicious but because of not reading the terms and conditions/rules and regulations of the casino and their request to withdraw will only be processed once the KYC is complete or some didn't get paid because they didn't do the KYC and just created a scam accusation thread when it doesn't necessarily to make when you can complete the KYC. I think it's necessary they don't want to do KYC maybe they have their own reasons why.

Maybe I'm afraid of my identity being leaked to scammers? Maybe I don't want someone to make fake accounts using my ID? Maybe I don't want people to know where I live and that I have bitcoins?
There's a lot of "maybes" here and I don't have to be trying to avoid taxes or underage to be against KYC.

You're repeating the typical explanation by abusive governments. If you have nothing to hide why be against us checking <insert a random property>?  

this is a word of a account or gambler that completely knew what this market or business is all about , saying a clear understanding and explanation for all those who are indeed affected by this implementation , the world of gambling in crypto community had increased its momentum and now government after every government is seeking what they think needs to be done from a long time.
now that we are here already? we must adopt on this or completely leave the gambling in crypto.
yeah in the past this is where criminals or launderers use to hide their activities and even cheaters of gambling sites turn their bags filled , but now? this is already changed and we need to accept that fact.

You then shouldn't be gambling with a large amount of money that casinos are required to start asking you questions about your identity. But if you don't want to send your I.D. and other personal documents, don't gamble on centralized gambling services.

I believe a gambling service like DirectBet, but built on top of the Lightning Network will bring the value-proposition that Lightning needs to validate its existence. The users don't know what Lightning truly is yet.

A requirement for joining any casino is to thoroughly read the rules of that casino site. It is often seen that problems occur when gamblers go to withdraw their money. There are some good gambling sites where nothing goes beyond the rules. Gambling without KYC may lead to account cancellation. In this case the money on that site will be lost.

This is true statement of online casino industry before when license is not a thing but right now now even crypto casino is being regulated by the government. This casino has license to operate which means they are capable on handling KYC procedure safely. The casino is liable in case there casino database was leaked which means they are protecting there customer KYC because there business reputation is in the table with this.

It’s either we will comply or stop using online casino will be our choice once the regulators fully required KYC to all casino. I’m sensitive too on KYC matters but now that the regulators showing some force on implementing this new requirements. I’m sure our opinion doesn’t matter anymore because casino will follow it since they are business entity wit a sole purpose of continuing there operation.

I see lately that users often have problems with the kyc system, at first the casino was not required to have kyc, but I don't know what to follow the kyc procedure, which in the end users objected and thought it was a joke.

Honestly, I'm more comfortable playing on casino sites that don't implement KYC, I don't think it's necessary for me to share my identity on betting/gambling sites, honestly, I don't want to bother, for casinos that implement KYC, I prefer to resign rather than share my personal identity, KYC only causes problems later on.

There has been a lot of discussion about KYC in the gambling industry, just for verification and getting to know the user it's actually not a problem for me personally, indeed as gamblers we are always wary about identity. But if their platform is trusted popular and legally licensed, why not and also I'm not the only one doing that anyway.
I remember recently there was a site that wasn't officially licensed and didn't require KYC, but the site ran away with user funds, and I as also user feel "cheated", it's better to deal with sites that are licensed and require KYC than to lose money in a that way. For other cases, there are also many and we must pay attention to in gambling is choosing the right website gambling.

You are right that lately the issue of KYC has become more and more crowded with various problems and obstacles experienced by gamblers. Apart from the demands of KYC and all the requirements that should have been reviewed before they played bigger with money. As you said avoiding casinos with KYC is often done including me personally.

Therefore, one of the techniques or methods I use is to bet small amounts, move from one casino to another and just enjoy a few games. I realized when my bets rarely win big and even that never happened during my time playing in the casino. Because the house will always win. Is not it?

That KYC that casinos often apply never makes me fulfill it. Cause the casino to me is a stopover to play and spend a little extra cash.

some may have been random but a lot of times it is usually based on something, as the casino has said on their ToS(at least the ones I have read) that they may ask the gamblers for KYC if they saw suspicious activity, have withdrawn a certain amount of money, etc...

sadly as crypto casinos become regulated KYC becomes unavoidable.

There's no issue if the casino asking you KYC is trusted and one of the most popular casinos out there. We're even quick to comply as they ask and that's why some gamblers are not too problematic with it.

Many casinos do that specially those that are not known. It's why we should be meticulous as gamblers despite we already have a variety of choices for casinos we gamble. One hint is to choose the reputable ones although you may be asked for KYC but they're established and trustworthy.

Yes you are right that there is no wrong or offended thing to requiring kyc for anti-money laundering and stop to others illegal thing but problems comes when a scam gambling websites is asking for kyc verification because it's true that many time scammer sell those data for money . But if there is reputable and well licensed gambling then you can atleast trust them.

Exactly. If the casino you are playing on is trusted and has been in the game for a lot of years, basic KYC wouldn't feel that bad at all. Especially if you know that the platform maintains its integrity by not selling any of your information to third party in this world wherein such activities are normal. It's usually a one and done thing too, if you're not breaking ToS and not doing anything shady on your account that the platform deems it necessary to do a lot more background check on your end.

KYC's are something for sure you must passed before making withdrawal maybe if the requested funds to withdraw above the limits then you would be asked to passed kyc before furthering your withdrawal process but i don't see any big deal revealing your kyc details to the gambling site where you throw in your fund to place a bet.
So in summary, they are also trying the best regulate and limits, monitors the rates at which funds are being withdrawn from their site or program if there's any theft associated with your account to tracking purposes. So if your willing to pass the kyc then don't gamble with such site because you could be later asked for your kyc details.

I consider it to be something becoming rather regular in almost all industries, not just in crypto casinos (or casinos in general). It's a process that can't be helped imo, especially if businesses were required to register under a legal license that the government issues (or a centralized group that manages it in general). It's actually a type of brainwash imo, it might be weird or odd right now but as people are gradually forced to do KYC in almost everything, they'd just end up accepting it in the end.

As for the second thing, I think KYC would still be involved even if login wallets were used. There may still be casinos that wouldn't put in KYC, but it'd only be a matter of time imo.

Man, you're a little wrong here (imo). Personally I don't want to do KYC for some offshore-registered services (90 % of casinos and book). And the reason is that such services has liability around zero , so if they get "hacked" or just sell their database to the third party, it will be near impossible to sue them.

I have no problem to do KYC with some services registered in trustworthy countries, like Bitstamp or bet365. But again, no KYC for offshore cunning rats!

KYC on online gambling is always been here even fiat based casinos are asking for KYC but compared to Cryptocurrency based casinos they only do this if they see suspicious activity in your account because they are licensed and they need to do what they have to do so their casino is marked clean by regulators, you know online casinos are legit business online

You have to accept that term, it's part of accepting their terms when you sign up, I've seen a lot of complaints but these complaints about KYC are not valid because they are not aware of this random KYC.



I am not comfortable logging in, in any project that is a casino based I don't have one and  I want a usual one where I register to use my email and password not something that will connect my wallet, I guess many players don't like that too.

As a crypto gambler, I do not want to see KYC on the casino because it feels not right to give my identity to the casino, which I do not use too often to play gambling. It will be different from the exchange to fill out KYC because I use exchanges to trade almost daily. Hence, if we compare it to the casino, I think it is unnecessary to verify our account with a completed KYC. Maybe if you are a gambler who uses big money to gamble, verifying your account is necessary because the casino wants to know who you are. They do not want to see their customer use illegal money or money from illegal businesses. So they apply KYC to some gamblers, especially those who use big money. But the casino can randomly ask KYC to their customers because they can do anything with them.

I couldn't agree more with your opinion on this one. Some gambles may have an issue why don't want to do KYC such as what yahoo said however that is not always the case. Most of us here doesn't really care if they do KYC as long as there would be someone liable in case something happens. Leakage of personal data is a thing and it is serious whereas it could cause safety issue to someone if it falls to the wrong hands. Selling of databases or even the platform itself is quite common on the gambling industry especially those who does not perform well. Liabilities and security is something that we want to assure in case KYC will be required.

I agree. I don't have a problem with KYC for payment services but I would argue that in the case of casinos and bookies it's not really necessary. KYC for casinos is generally done because the players might be using a fraudulent methods for gambling. And the surest way to protect casinos from cheating is to get some personal info and background check.

Casinos often claim KYC is required due to regulations and anti-money laundering laws, but that's not true. As far as I know, all AML laws and regulations apply to large transactions only. KYC for small transaction is normally not a requirement.

most people buy cryptocurrencies precisely because they believed in this issue of privacy, anonymity, staying away from the control of governments, they felt free. but never expected that it was all an illusion. eventually KYC would knock on everyone's door. Casinos are following government laws, if they do not follow government laws then they risk losing their license and being held accountable for crimes. this is a situation where casinos have no choice. the same thing is happening with exchanges. another problem that this KYC created and that:

1 - the casino is anonymous and the owner of the casino is also anonymous

2 - customers must not be anonymous because they KYC at the anonymous casino where it has an anonymous owner

So we have a very unfair situation here.


well, this point gave space for some casinos to be committing abuses such as:

Customer deposits 1000$ in the casino, hours later the customer wins 10,000$ and wants to make a withdrawal, but the customer is informed that he cannot make a withdrawal because he needs to make KYC due to suspicious activity

But I wonder:

why didn't the casino ask for KYC as soon as the person deposited 1000$? and if the person had lost the 1000$, would the casino ask for KYC?


Casinos don't say they do random KYC, they say that when they detect any suspicious activity they ask for KYC, and as I said, that opens up space for casinos to abuse


yes, this is unavoidable for crypto casinos and like any company that handles money

KYC in the first place isn't a welcome development on crypto gambling business because it is revealing of the players personal identification and that is against what cryptocurrency decentralised system but if you are again suggesting random KYC for some of the players, it means the casino is already biased and selecting some players to reveal their identity. If they have questionable behaviour or suspect them, it doesn't require them to ask for KYC from them as it is against the system. I don't believe in casinos requiring KYC.

Yes, it is unavoidable. You need license if you want to legally allow players of from different countries to gamble in your casino. The license will determine which countries you can serve based on the laws of that countries. Now if they want to keep their license, they will have to identify their customers based on some factors, hence KYC becomes somewhat mandatory.

It can be unavoidable if the casino never interacts with the fiat currency and keeps their identity hidden. But then again, the players will be at a huge risk.

Most crypto casinos don't ask for KYC when you deposit so you can throw the license excuse out the window. The only reason they ask for KYC is a reason to confiscate your money when you go to withdraw.

This is very true and I experienced it mostly after withdrawing a large amount of money from most of the casino. I think they base on the amount of winnings you have before they ask for KYC since whenever I withdraw with just small amount, They don't bother asking for KYC. They can easily throw the license excuse to you whenever you object or their TOS.

Fortunejack is refusing to pay a reputable member a measly 10 mbtc. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411207.0)
Do you think FJ cares about 10 mbtc?
Of course not; they are only asking for KYC for regulatory purposes/abide by whatever laws they agreed to.
Kind of scary that someone with zero knowledge of how this works is claiming to know the #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS...

There is a huge difference between a crypto casino and a cryptocurrency blockchain.  Cryptocurrency blockchain can be as anonymous as Monero or pseudonymous as Bitcoin and  does not have a centralized authority,while the crypto casino is a centralized company that is bound by the law of the country they are registered with. It wasn't the cryptocurrency that requires you to do the KYC but the Casino.  So the crypto blockchain is the same as it was before but centralized company isn't.  Or I might say, the crypto Industry is not as anonymous as it used to be.


As long as there is a central authority in a casino and is registered in the government, they will implement KYC if the government required them to implement KYC.

This is never a fight, you explained it in a way that is not clear and you should admit that, I asked a question about what you post, just for understanding sake, all you just need is to perfectly give me the answer needed, it should not be about proving that you are right, we are still saying the same thing, that is what this forum is all about, to discuss and gain from each other, this forum should not be a place to prove that you are right when someone ask you a question and not against you in any way.

Yes mate, Lots of gamblers have the experience of falling into this kind of situation. Withdrawals are possible without any KYC when normally less amount is withdrawn. But KYC is required for higher amount withdrawals. I think if a gambler is gambling on a good site then it is better to do KYC to avoid this kind of situation.

If OP is referring to legit fiat online casinos, it's not new already that KYC is being imposed there. Since these fiat casinos are regulated under the government branch or agency that deals with gambling, it's just common that KYC is being asked as part of protecting the users itself. In case of unusual behavior or scam attempt, at least, the culprits can tracked down easily.

Is it avoidable at crypto-casinos? Yes and we can see that most crypto-gambling sites didn't implemented yet a mandatory KYC yet. But in reality, since centralization is now reaching any crypto-industry including gambling, we might experience a mandatory KYC soon. Don't worry, it's not that KYC will be implemented right away at most crypto-gambling sites.

Which casino argues that? I've never heard KYC is randomly asked to gamblers. As far as I know it's related to the volume of money you deposit and withdraw.

It's avoidable since you play at a casino which doesn't enforce KYC. There are few of them around in crypto universe. Anyway, crypto casinos in general don't ask majority of their players for KYC, because they don't gamble with large amounts of money, therefore they must be safe to gamble 'anonymously'.

I think we need to read the TOS of every casino we signed up with.  If the TOS states that they may require their player to submit KYC in event that it is needed by the Casino then we should be ready to submit our documents anytime the casino asked for it. I think we don't have the right to whine about it because we had agreed on it in the first place.

But, what if they require kyc at the beginning or during the signup process? But I bet you will skip them and look forward for another casino. You are lucky if you can play on a casino without submitting your kyc and can be able to withdraw but what if it's being ask by the time you withdraw?

It's either you will forget your money or comply to kyc. This is why it's important to always read the terms of a casino first so that we will know what to expect or we can also ask their customer support to clear things out. In the event they modify their terms without notifying their users then I think that was not fair and we can argue with it or report them in case we caught out in a sticky situations.

The KYC explanation should detail the withdrawal limits so we don't speculate how many withdrawal limits are required for KYC, the casino platform must also prioritize withdrawals below the limit due to privacy factors for many gamblers to withdraw funds according to the limits allowed for non-KYC accounts. There are many complaints about KYC because the TOS regulations for KYC are not specifically explained and argue that it is needed for suspected accounts and for high withdrawals above the limit.

Ive seen recently about KYC on having 4 levels but they dont indicate on how much is the threshold on every level which they should at least do make out some numbers to know the public so that they would be

aware or giving out some idea on how many information they should risk out for them to know on what they are tending to widthraw or something in related.

Its normal that these platforms will really be asking out since they are centralized or regulation which they dont have any choice but to imply it with their site terms and conditions
but at least there are some transparency for every information.

In this case, casino should register itself in trustworthy country, so I should know that casinos doesn't use fraudulent methods  ;D
Otherwise I can't consider it as fair deal


Not only for the large one. For all transactions and for all users. Service must have database with KYC-ed clients.

^ I don't know what is the reason either when we won a large amount and why there is an increased level of KYC procedure.
You become a suspected account once you hit a big jackpot, or this casino trying to find a mistake so that you won't able to withdraw your fund. However, I did not generalize them all, there are still casinos that stick to their ToS. We should always read the ToS, because their site their rules to follow and users should always follow on it.

If KYC means to know your customer then it is better the casinos to know their customers so that they can track them if there is any issue. The casinos that were not doing it and now they doing it because they feel that it is better for them to know their customers gambling history of their platform. But it is not compulsory to use KYC in a gambling site it is a random choice.

And most of them have that rule that they may ask for compliance of supporting documents as part of their verification.

That means that almost casino now might ask their players for KYC if they intend to. But there are still some casinos that don't ask for it, if you're just a small time gambler.

Small amounts in deposits and withdrawals, they won't bother you. But in that case, you're anticipating it may happen to you any moment as you stay and play in any casino.

It would very naive to think that casinos are randomly asking KYC. Except the regulated and professional ones, they never ask KYC before depositing funds. They ask it once the funds have been deposited when they are afraid by the bankroll of the player or when they decide that the player has won too much money and they don't want to pay him his winnings.
Fortunately, several fully decentralized casinos and sportsbooks are coming, and all the scammy casinos will soon be forsaken, mark my words.

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I find it a bit ironic that some members here usually attack new casinos just because they don't have a license but they complain when a casino asks them to verify their identity. Sorry, but I had to say it.
If you value your privacy so much then don't play at licensed casinos, as simple as that. You never know when they will lock your account and ask you to pass kyc.

There's a load of reasons why someone wouldn't want to complete KYC man, so it comes down to do you want to gamble online or not? It's not rocket science. KYC is the norm these days, I just don't like how and when it is applied.

If you are searching for casinos without KYC, instant withdrawals please go and visit this --> casino (https://bch.games/play/GfIHrl2d).

FJ lets minors and those in restricted countries play there as long as they lose. Their license doesn't mean a thing unless you win. Curacao is much different than a license in the UK or US. Most of the casinos at BCT are in Curacao or Costa Rica.

In Curacao there are 4 master licenses and the rest are sub-licenses. FJ has a sub-license. You can get a sub-license in less than 2 weeks.

Indeed. We have an option if we dont like the idea of complying on a kyc of the specific casino. Many casinos are still not requiring their players to do the kyc verification and you can play anonymously. However we should know the risk of playing to a not licensed casino compared to those casinos operating with license.

Anyway, kyc is now a common requirement of casinos to their players. However if you're just an average gambler, usually they dont ask for it until you exceeds a certain limit of withdrawal. For me its not a big deal to comply as long as im dealing with a trusted casino to abide on their kyc requirement.

Cryptocurrencies itself are decentralized but crypto-based casinos aren't. Gambling websites have no choice but to impose KYC verification because their business is licensed and regulated by the government.


I'm pretty sure gambling websites will still ask for KYC even if they develop a new form of using their platform especially if the withdrawal is too huge that it looks suspicious. One of the purpose of KYC is to prevent criminals from using these gambling casinos in their illegal activities.

It's not like that. Casino didn't remind the user to did KYC first before it will be implemented KYC verification once the user wanna try to withdraw their money. The fairest thing must be if KYC must be asked when the users are sign up or register to the site.
If the user didn't wanna to do KYC verification and there would be limitation for withdrawal or something like what implemented in another service like centralized exchange site and so the users will not feel being cheated by the casino.
I think this is the best decision to be taken to the users. That would be fair for both.

It is true that more and more crypto gambling sites are forcing their customers to submit KYC for various reasons, but there are still several sites that don't require any form of KYC unless they find something suspicious related to your account.

Personally, I hate submitting KYC unless absolutely necessary which is why I only play in sites that don't enforce any form of mandatory KYC.

I have been playing in these sites from a long time and acquired decent profits without ever needing to submit KYC.

Yeah, personally I don't mind if the casino is either has license or not since it doesn't make the casino will be trustworthy and can't scam. Online gambling license isn't strict like physical casino license, they will record your name, address etc and also will protect an addict to not play anymore.

In online casino the trustworthiness is depend on the casino site, so I would stick to a casino that run a long term campaign, having active support and doesn't have an active accusation in this forum.

In a way casinos are trapped between a rock and a hard place, on one hand governments want casinos to enforce KYC polices in a very aggressive manner so they can prevent crimes like money laundering and other similar crimes, however the end user does not want to go through those policies  not only because they are slow, cumbersome and tedious, but also because we know that information could be stolen and once that happens there is not anything you can do about it.

It's actually against the decentralized system of cryptocurrencies but regulators pressure casinos to apply KYC to each of their members so casinos are forced to do so to follow the existing rules. Maybe that's why casinos have started implementing KYC rules on their sites to guard against any possible illegal activity that could occur on their sites, including if any of their members are caught cheating. And we as gamblers, can do nothing and only have the option of looking for another casino.

We don't need to register at a casino that implements KYC in the first place because I'm sure there are still many casinos that don't apply this to their members. But usually, casinos will start implementing KYC once their members start withdrawing money on their site and will immediately ask for KYC if they will withdraw big money.

When we want to withdraw money, the casino asks for KYC, we can just comply by doing it, but it is also up to us whether to comply or complain to the support team on the site. But usually, if people get a case like this, they will complain to the site and in this forum because they don't want to do KYC.

In the end, the government always win because the casino have to follow the instructions from them and if they do not follow the government KYC enforcement instructions, the government can force legal actions against them. The players are not left with anything to choose from but to do the KYC in order to play gamble. There are platforms which offer gambling without doing kyc but those options are very rare and limited.

It doesn't matter whether the casino has a license or is in the process of getting it. The problem is that casinos can ask for KYC for every member, and now it looks like they are starting to ask for KYC randomly. Maybe later, we will all be asked to do KYC but hopefully, it won't be done for all members in the casino and only ask for KYC for members who use big money to play gambling. But if the casino keeps asking us for KYC, maybe we can choose to do KYC or find another casino that doesn't implement KYC.

Nowadays casino has evolved as an industry where the government of that country is asked to follow certain rules and policies on them. Casino owners must be held accountable if they break the rules. I think for that purpose KYC should be sent for those who need to big amount for withdraw. If someone is not willing to do KYC then he has to join with out kyc based casino platform in the beginning.

but you must comply as gambling nowadays really ask for KYC and you have no way to deny when withdrawing .
wrong , trading and gambling are almost similar , it is involving money and needed a verification of your details.
meaning if you are smaller gambler then you must be safe in security as KYC intend this ?

but the main problem as we experienced ? those who are not literally asking for KYC in the beginning but eventually when there are big amount involve? then this KYC will come.
yes but not until you become lucky to win jackpot or some big amount releasing then KYC again will imply.

Believe it or not, those who like to attack new casinos with "license" but at the same time they also against KYC, are mostly not gamblers or they do not even understand about what is license and what is the connection between license and KYC. In short, those who consider license is a must to have by a casino then they should be ready for KYC.

Do you know any casinos that have already managed to go decentralised, or which are currently working on a decentralised platform? It would be something really interesting, if they are legit.

On the other hand, do legacy casinos ask for KYC when you go physically there to play? If that is the case, where does their legitimity to do that come from?

I'm not fan of KYC especially on a casino, so it's a big no for me, I would not criticize because that's their business and if they are regulated, they have the reason to implement it. In my case, I'm just staying away on casinos that requires a KYC, instead, I will choose a casino that does not require a KYC but have a good reputation.

In the end, it still varies from personal choices.

Winning a jackpot, I assume that's a huge amount of money, well, I can comply with the KYC in that case but if the site is scammy, they can always find a way to disapprove my submission, so we must play on a reputable site as it's less risky for us.

Thing is, some casinos, will accuse you of violating the rules just to freeze your winnings, and you cannot win against them since they hold your information and they can always accuse you of anything, the only way to fight them is to take the case on the court, but the question is, are we willing to spend time and effort for that?

As a regular player at brick & mortar sportsbooks, I never had to go through the KYC procedure for moderate bet amounts. They only requested an identity document to verify an individual was of legal age.

I think you got the point. KYC has become a common trend in online casinos today. I guess this is one of the reasons why we have such a huge problem with online casinos, as no one really wants to do KYC and there are so many unregulated casinos out there. Overall, it's hard to say that it's a totally safe thing to do. In some cases, a casino without KYC is obviously not fully regulated. However, there's no way to say that all unregulated casinos are bad and that all regulated casinos are safe. Each user should do their research before playing to minimize the risks.

They have their right to make business but a good one and nit leveraging on user's confidential data behind them for thier own purpose, i believe when there's a massive turnout on the search for a KYC free casino, maybe others could rethink and learn to strictly go by what the gamblers want and not what they think will best profit them as an asset from user's privacy, the government has authority over casinos to demand any information from then because they are centralized gambling operators, but just as in bitcoin privacy, i think gambling needed to be privately secured as well in other to remain safe from data leak/breach.

That's what a casino reputation is for which is judged objectively based on user activity and satisfaction with the casinos they visit. Initially, KYC in crypto casinos never existed, but as it gets bigger and the casino revenue gets higher, it will attract the government to take policy. So to me, the gambler has any rights and it depends on whether he or she is interested in a reputable or shady casino.

I think there's many casinos or reviews sites talking about KYC free casino, you can search on google. The thing is all of them are fake KYC free casino, they're not asking the KYC at the beginning, but when you search on their TOS you will see KYC is mandatory for them. Not only on casino reviews, few casinos in this forum also promote fake KYC free casino too lol. I think such casinos should be avoided since they're not really honest with the gamblers.

To be perfectly fair from these gambling crypto casino out there, most of them really do offer KYC-free on their platform however not having to do KYC has limits on your account such as the amount you can gamble and withdrawal. It also vary depending on these casino since you can sign up on their platform without doing KYC however if you have reached certain limit, you'll be subjected to a mandatory KYC process. Also, It is important to know the TOS of these casinos to avoid violating it and be subjected for KYC.

I do not see that there are many reputable casinos force players to do KYC, at least in the casinos I play such as Roobet, Stake, Chips.
Would you please share/mention the reputable casinos that force their players to do KYC recently?


If what you say is true that the casino KYC is done randomly without any reason, I have to say that it is a bad casino.
KYC should be done because there is a valid reason such as license terms, or the terms of the casino itself.
Once again, which casinos argues that they do random selection for KYC?

I agree, it is  a child like action to whine about why this casino A is implementing KYC while Casino B is not.  If we don't want KYC let us just avoid it.  Why create drama about it is just a waste of time and temper  ;D.

Anyway I don't mind if a casino implement KYC or not,  it is up to me whether to accept their terms or not.  But in case a casino where I played implement KYC then I would for sure follow their terms.  I have no choice since I agreed on their TOS, it is whether perform KYC or leave.

This is exactly what ordinary gamblers really don't like when they are required to go through procedure KYC, even if they didn't violate anything and didn't commit suspicious actions. Moreover, this can be a banal pretext of the casino to get the user's data. People come to online casinos to calmly lose their money, and not to be forced with KYC. If I choose a casino without KYC, then I probably don’t need to slip KYC from the administration under various pretexts.

AFAIK the Fun token team is working hard on a fully decentralized and non-custodial casino on top of the Polygon network (a layer 2 protocol) and some other projects are doing similar things on other layer 2 networks or fast and cheap blockchains. But I'm sure when the first big ones will be launched, it will have the same success as the Defi against the Cefi, people don't want anymore to be worried when they send their funds for gambling and they don't want to be tracked by governmental or non-governmental organizations.

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The gambling industry benefited immensely from KYC in terms of how to get rid of bad players, particularly those who are known for trying to cheat the system by using multiple accounts and shortcuts to win bets. In addition, KYC makes it simple to identify players who are underage that break the rules by signing up to play. If implemented effectively, KYC is highly necessary for the gambling business.

The drawbacks of KYC are very concerning. Nowadays, it's very difficult to trust businesses because you never know what they might do with your documents. Additionally, some businesses that claim to keep your documents secure actually sell them, making them the target of scams and illegal activity. If you value your privacy, avoid KYC. If you value your peace of mind, avoid KYC.

The KYC also seems to be a thing of the last few years. Previously, the KYC was checked much less and gambling sites had a lot more free play, it seemed. This also has to do with certain countries, in Curacao they are becoming stricter and more and more countries are expressly banned if you want to search certain websites. But I think there are no sanctions if a gambling site does not follow the KYC procedure. You may still wonder at what point a gambling site is required to implement the KYC.

I'm pretty sure gambling platforms are sanctioned if they failed to turn out some KYC for their platform. It may not be as strict as it used to be, but to say that sanctions and penalties are already gone if a platform fails to produce KYC documents is just too wrong. Regulators would still need something for documentation purposes and for 'formality' even though they don't really need all that info. Compliance is a begrudgingly painful thing for regulators and businesses alike.

You actually have a point there, because one of the strategy most new casino use now is that they allow you register without asking for KYC, deposit funds without asking for KYC, and play games without asking for KYC, but if luckily you happens to win huge, and time to withdraw funds, that's when you will be surprised been asked for KYC, which is actually not fair. But casinos uses such strategy to delay payment of huge funds.

As the famous line says, "just go with the flow".

Simply, disregarding that crypto should be supposed to be private, a crypto-gambling site has its own set of rules. If we don't like their way, then leave. If we like to stick to using their service, then comply with everything. Their terms, their rules.

Referring to some reputable gambling sites today, I don't know what sites are currently having a mandatory KYC. I'm sure none yet up to this point.

From my own understanding concerning kyc verification I noticed that it is very important to any player concerning it form because it is been done in the favour of account being well-known by prayer but some people don't understand while kyc is been done and in some people also kick against it as a bad something. But the way i  see KYC I welcomed it very well because I know that it is something that will help a platform to be strong and effective to an extent

There is no relation between KYC and the reputation of a casino. For example,  Roobet enforce level 1 KYC upon registration but it's still one of the most reputable casinos. Besides,  most of the casinos you have mentioned states clearly in their terms of service that they reserve the right to ask for identity verification practically whenever they want.
I totally agree with yahoo on this, am not against kyc but am against how it's being applied.

Can you lead us on what are these well-known and reputable casinos that are now forcing their users to do KYC?

Are you talking about crypto-casinos or fiat casinos? If the former, I'm not aware there is. If the latter, I'm sure that was normal that KYC is mandatory.


Are you referring to decentralized crypto-based casinos here, in general?

I think it's too early to discuss or not even worth spending our time to think that by now if they will also implement KYC here by force.

I can't think of any good reason why having forced KYC on these casino types should be asked to their users.

This is a very controversial issue, it has happened to me that I have been in casinos where they assure you that KYC is not used, but it is a false alarm, because really at some point in the game if they ask for KYC, this is something that like everyone You know, when you go to enter a casino, you have little patience to read the terms and conditions that are at the beginning when you register, so in part we ourselves as players are to blame in a large percentage, sometimes emotion can , of course I speak from what I have lived, and perhaps many also fall into the same, but that is another thing, but if the casinos should say that if there is something of KYC in them.

Maybe it doesn't just happen to you, but many people don't say anything but just go and find another casino that doesn't require KYC. As crypto gamblers, we don't want to do KYC, especially for people who don't gamble with big money or don't gamble too often. That is because they think playing gambling with crypto is very exciting and doesn't need to go through a long process before they can start gambling immediately. Maybe from now on, the casino needs to provide information in its FAQ about clear limits on KYC, meaning whether there will be a limit to the amount of money gamblers have to go through so they don't have to do KYC. I guess it would be better for users as they would try not to break those restrictions and still be able to play and withdraw their winnings, which of course, wouldn't be that big. But that was enough for them.

Bitcoin bear is not a barrier, there are still more open stores accepting bitcoin for payments.

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