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Title: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on August 30, 2022, 09:44:06 AM
https://www.fiba.basketball/BBMContent/brandings/b9555270-c01c-417a-ba06-7798d2247ed1/OgImage_en.png
EuroBasket 2022 in 4 countries will begin on September 1st. Here is the groups:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/10/mersI.png
We will see almost all biggest European stars here like Doncic, Giannis, Jokic and others. It's probably strongest Eurobasket in in many years and it's a bit strange, considering that after change of format, Eurobasket lost importance and spots to Olympics/World Cup aren't given there anymore.
Main favorites according to bookmakers is Serbia, France, Greece and Slovenia. Lithuania and Spain also can be considered as contenders.
More details about tournament can be found on official website:
https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on August 30, 2022, 12:10:28 PM
This will be fun. I may not be European but the names here are mostly the known players in the basketball industry. I will definitely watch their games and probably put some bets too if available.
My personal favorites will be Serbia and Slovenia. Luckily they are not in the same group but Slovenia is in a tough bracket with France being there and they are one of the competitive teams even in the Olympics.

So the last games that I saw were just qualifying matches. This will be the real game from now on.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: RockBell on August 30, 2022, 02:17:34 PM
let me buckle my belt  games have started i love B games i play my self every evening to keep fit and for fun thanks for sharing the table for lovers , is going to be a though game  because no body will relent cause they must have train very hard to carry the euro basket league its going to be so interesting  especially group A and D wow i guessing my wins from those two group.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on August 30, 2022, 11:06:39 PM
This will be fun. I may not be European but the names here are mostly the known players in the basketball industry. I will definitely watch their games and probably put some bets too if available.
My personal favorites will be Serbia and Slovenia. Luckily they are not in the same group but Slovenia is in a tough bracket with France being there and they are one of the competitive teams even in the Olympics.

So the last games that I saw were just qualifying matches. This will be the real game from now on.

My main favorites is Serbia and France. They have good squad depth and lot of players in their prime. Slovenia is hyped a bit too much IMO. Greece - in previous tournaments Giannis weren't feeling that good in European basketball like in NBA, bt now it's already time for him to shine. My country Lithuania isn't one favorites for gold, but I think we have very good chance to win medal.
B is definitely group of death with Slovenia France and Lithuania. While Serbia got such easy group.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on August 31, 2022, 01:48:00 AM
My main favorites is Serbia and France. They have good squad depth and lot of players in their prime. Slovenia is hyped a bit too much IMO. Greece - in previous tournaments Giannis weren't feeling that good in European basketball like in NBA, bt now it's already time for him to shine. My country Lithuania isn't one favorites for gold, but I think we have very good chance to win medal.
B is definitely group of death with Slovenia France and Lithuania. While Serbia got such easy group.
Cool. We have one common favorite team.
You're from Lithuania? Wow! One of the countries that scared the living shit out of top countries back at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. I can't forget that time because of the sharpshooters that emerged and performed way past the expectations of the viewers.

I was looking for the kid in the Serbia basketball roster that was drafted into NBA 2022 Draft pick number 27 Nikola Jović but I don't see him. Maybe they won't let him play yet.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on August 31, 2022, 09:32:34 AM
Cool. We have one common favorite team.
You're from Lithuania? Wow! One of the countries that scared the living shit out of top countries back at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. I can't forget that time because of the sharpshooters that emerged and performed way past the expectations of the viewers.

I was looking for the kid in the Serbia basketball roster that was drafted into NBA 2022 Draft pick number 27 Nikola Jović but I don't see him. Maybe they won't let him play yet.
Yeah, I'm from Lithuania. We always been underdogs in international competition and despite it we kicked out many strong teams. Though, recent years isn't good for us, we haven't won any medal since 2015 - it's way too long break for us.
Jovic won't play because Miami Heat didn't let him join national team, it often happens young NBA players. But I doubt that this year he would have big role in Serbia team.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: emrecemsan on August 31, 2022, 06:30:47 PM
After a five-year break we are again feeling the greatness of this tournament.  :)

In the EuroBasket 2017, Slovenia beat Serbia 93-85 and became the champions. Now both of these teams are among the favourites to win the title. Serbia are the most favoured one @4.60. While Greece and Slovenia are following them @5.00, France are right behind @5.50. The odds are really close to each other and I don't expect any other team to make a surprise too. Spain were the dominator of the EuroBasket in the past but now they have an odd like 15.00.

My favourite team are Serbia. I'd like to say Greece but it really depends on how solid Giannis will play. Like some of you mentioned, this isn't NBA and maybe he can still have problems with having a good relationship with his friends in the roster and adapting to European basketball again too.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: livingfree on August 31, 2022, 06:37:41 PM
All brackets are gonna be fun to watch but I'm more for the group C.

Jovic won't play because Miami Heat didn't let him join national team, it often happens young NBA players. But I doubt that this year he would have big role in Serbia team.
Yeah, that usually happens, and sad to see that when they're not allowed to represent their countries. But it's also understandable since they've just signed up a contract and they should honor it.

My favourite team are Serbia. I'd like to say Greece but it really depends on how solid Giannis will play. Like some of you mentioned, this isn't NBA and maybe he can still have problems with having a good relationship with his friends in the roster and adapting to European basketball again too.
That's why it is exciting to watch, there are NBA players with their local and other naturalized teammates. And there goes the encouragement for each of team that has a teammate from there.

But it doesn't mean that they're guaranteed to win, it's like each team can kick each others asses.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: püsür on August 31, 2022, 07:07:30 PM
My main favorites is Serbia and France. They have good squad depth and lot of players in their prime. Slovenia is hyped a bit too much IMO. Greece - in previous tournaments Giannis weren't feeling that good in European basketball like in NBA, bt now it's already time for him to shine. My country Lithuania isn't one favorites for gold, but I think we have very good chance to win medal.
B is definitely group of death with Slovenia France and Lithuania. While Serbia got such easy group.
Cool. We have one common favorite team.
You're from Lithuania? Wow! One of the countries that scared the living shit out of top countries back at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. I can't forget that time because of the sharpshooters that emerged and performed way past the expectations of the viewers.

I was looking for the kid in the Serbia basketball roster that was drafted into NBA 2022 Draft pick number 27 Nikola Jović but I don't see him. Maybe they won't let him play yet.
There is a cool video explaining the groups, teams and rosters. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOJOOc7viZU - EuroBasket 2022 Is Going To Be Legendary!) I think it is a good video for considering how to bet on some teams. The Serbia roster is explained well also.

Fiba Eurobasket instagram account has a thing called 'Power Rankings'. (https://www.instagram.com/p/ChcCFE7tIJT/?hl=en) Turkey was at 6th position in the previous weeks but they lost their position at the first 8 after the terrible losses. Lastly, Latvia crushed Turkey and then Serbia also won in a clutch game. Still, I think there is potential in Turkey's team. Might have surprising results.

This will be very intense tournament. There are a lot of big contenders. For me there are 5-6 teams I would not totally surprised if they win the cup. This means we will have a great tournament to watch.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on August 31, 2022, 11:03:28 PM
So, first day of Eurobasket finally come. And on opening day we have big game between champions Slovenia and Lithuania. Slovenia is considered as favorites, but I'm backing Lithuania - I simply can't go against my country. Germany - France should be good game too, though I don't have doubts about France win.
Abit strange that after loss of their main star Toko Shengelia, Georgia is still favoured aginst Belgium, I think we can see upset here. Hungary - Bosnia looks not easy to predict, but anyway, both teams have minimal chances to get out from group.

That's why it is exciting to watch, there are NBA players with their local and other naturalized teammates. And there goes the encouragement for each of team that has a teammate from there.
Personally I don't like at all these things with naturalized players. After all, it's national teams, not club. Now if team is weak at certain position, they simply hire some random American who have zero connection with that country. C'mon, now even Spain took naturalized player. I think that now only Serbia and Lithuania is playing with their own players only.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 01, 2022, 06:43:26 AM
Jovic won't play because Miami Heat didn't let him join national team, it often happens young NBA players. But I doubt that this year he would have big role in Serbia team.
Thanks for the update. I have no clue they denied letting their rookie play. Perhaps, they have some authority in that because of the contract.
It could've been good publicity for the young player.
So, first day of Eurobasket finally come. And on opening day we have big game between champions Slovenia and Lithuania. Slovenia is considered as favorites, but I'm backing Lithuania - I simply can't go against my country. Germany - France should be good game too, though I don't have doubts about France win.
Abit strange that after loss of their main star Toko Shengelia, Georgia is still favoured aginst Belgium, I think we can see upset here. Hungary - Bosnia looks not easy to predict, but anyway, both teams have minimal chances to get out from group.
4 games later in my timeline and the next to that is early morning (2:30 AM) France vs Germany.
It will be a bit of a problem in my time so I may be able to watch only one game and that will be Slovenia vs Lithuania where I also put my bet.
Sorry, but my bet will be for Slovenia here at -2.5.
Let's see, it should be an exciting game.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: tbterryboy on September 01, 2022, 10:38:02 AM
This will be fun. I may not be European but the names here are mostly the known players in the basketball industry. I will definitely watch their games and probably put some bets too if available.
My personal favorites will be Serbia and Slovenia. Luckily they are not in the same group but Slovenia is in a tough bracket with France being there and they are one of the competitive teams even in the Olympics.

So the last games that I saw were just qualifying matches. This will be the real game from now on.
It is fun for a person who likes basketball games but it kinda surprise me when you say that some of the players are well known already. Does that mean some of the players are from the nba? All the time I thought games like fiba are only for amateur and local players who doesn't have a name yet in this field but anyways, that was great as that can attract more viewers.

This will also give us a hint if which team can score a win easily. We can then place a bet for that team and make a quick buck. A qualifying round is still a real game. Only the practice game is what you can call unreal hehe but the game should be intense now and more exciting to watch than before.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on September 01, 2022, 12:36:48 PM
I thought of a combined betslip with Turkey at 1.30, Slovenia at 1.58 and France at 1.44.

Turkey haven't been doing well in the World Cup lately. They lost to Serbia and Latvia in their last games. However I see this as an opportunity for them to rise again. They beat Montenegro in their last game and they are highly the favourite again.

Slovenia are already one of the biggest candidates to become the champions. Lithuania isn't an easy opponent and the last games between them are proofs for that. But I still don't think Slovenia will lose here.

When it comes to France, they are still very strong and among the teams being favoured to win the championship. However this is the bet I'm most afraid of. Because only a few days ago, Germany defeated Slovenia in the World Cup by a huge point gap like 19. France will need to play really carefully against them to have a good start.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 01, 2022, 04:08:30 PM
This will be fun. I may not be European but the names here are mostly the known players in the basketball industry. I will definitely watch their games and probably put some bets too if available.
My personal favorites will be Serbia and Slovenia. Luckily they are not in the same group but Slovenia is in a tough bracket with France being there and they are one of the competitive teams even in the Olympics.

So the last games that I saw were just qualifying matches. This will be the real game from now on.
It is fun for a person who likes basketball games but it kinda surprise me when you say that some of the players are well known already. Does that mean some of the players are from the nba? All the time I thought games like fiba are only for amateur and local players who doesn't have a name yet in this field but anyways, that was great as that can attract more viewers.

This will also give us a hint if which team can score a win easily. We can then place a bet for that team and make a quick buck. A qualifying round is still a real game. Only the practice game is what you can call unreal hehe but the game should be intense now and more exciting to watch than before.
Yes bro, the NBA might have helped the European League to gain more audiences. But that doesn't mean I am discriminating or anything, I am actually glad that I have witnessed these players in the NBA. Now, I am a fan of more European players rather than US players.  ;)
I think it all started with Peja Stojakovic then Manu and Dirk, then right now Doncic, Jokic, Giannis, and more.
What I mean by a real game is, that it gets more serious, like playoffs or a Finals game. This is the time when they play even harder than the qualifying rounds.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on September 01, 2022, 04:34:21 PM
https://www.fiba.basketball/BBMContent/brandings/b9555270-c01c-417a-ba06-7798d2247ed1/OgImage_en.png
EuroBasket 2022 in 4 countries will begin on September 1st. Here is the groups:
https://i.imgur.com/dDw0Gv4.png
We will see almost all biggest European stars here like Doncic, Giannis, Jokic and others. It's probably strongest Eurobasket in in many years and it's a bit strange, considering that after change of format, Eurobasket lost importance and spots to Olympics/World Cup aren't given there anymore.
Main favorites according to bookmakers is Serbia, France, Greece and Slovenia. Lithuania and Spain also can be considered as contenders.
More details about tournament can be found on the official website:
https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022
This is something to look forward to. Eurobasket ball, given much precedence at this point, makes me wonder about the catch. It has been a long coming, however, since the covid outbreak. This is one tournament to make Europe not be too concerned about the escalations in Ukraine and the effect of inflation. I look forward to France, Italy, and Great Britain as my team ride-or-die teams.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 01, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
I was enjoying the game not until I saw some bad fingers caught by the camera. Pushing sportsmanship, that act should not happen.
Cologne Dome was mostly Lithuanian fans and it's great to see a big crowd supporting their team.
Lithuania did great, they are actually a scary team that could turn the game around any time. They gave Slovenia a hard time and there was even a moment I thought they will win it.

Slovenia won in the end although exhausted.  :D Luka, not at his most promising nights at offense, dedicating his efforts thru assists.
https://i.imgur.com/dw4DBHx.png


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Pulsar77 on September 01, 2022, 08:55:06 PM
https://i.hizliresim.com/rygvorl.png (https://www.hizliresim.com/rygvorl)

We have the final results of all of the matches today.

We saw two favourites like Georgia and France losing their matches. France's loss was unexpected for many people surely but I was prepared for it. Because Germany have been in a pretty good shape and they were a big threat to France also. Considering the individual performances, Yabusele (18 points) and Gobert (11 points, 12 assists) were the most impressive players of the match. But France couldn't get as much contribution as Germany got from the majority of the players. France were bad in especially the third quarter and they couldn't close that big point gap after that.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 01, 2022, 10:01:12 PM
What an evening in Germany. First - Nowitzki jersey retiremennt ceremony in soldout arena. And then very solid win of Germany against favorites France, Germany controlled game. Slovenia - Lithuania was amazing game with painful ending for me. We already had everything in our hands in 4th quarter but didn't managed to keep lead. As our coach said, we showed too much respect for Doncic. And our NBA stars Sabonis and JV were worst our players today.
Belgium win against Georgia looks like upset, but I already said that we can expect to see such result. Georgia don't have Shengelia, who is basically half of team.

It is fun for a person who likes basketball games but it kinda surprise me when you say that some of the players are well known already. Does that mean some of the players are from the nba? All the time I thought games like fiba are only for amateur and local players who doesn't have a name yet in this field but anyways, that was great as that can attract more viewers.
It's very ignorant comment, considering that in 4 recent seasons NBA MVP's is from Europe, Doncic is also contender to get it. Most of these national teams have at least few NBA players, but level in Europe is high too, players get good money there. IMO, top Euroleague clubs would be contenders for NBA playoff spots.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: livingfree on September 01, 2022, 11:00:16 PM
That's why it is exciting to watch, there are NBA players with their local and other naturalized teammates. And there goes the encouragement for each of team that has a teammate from there.
Personally I don't like at all these things with naturalized players. After all, it's national teams, not club. Now if team is weak at certain position, they simply hire some random American who have zero connection with that country. C'mon, now even Spain took naturalized player. I think that now only Serbia and Lithuania is playing with their own players only.
I don't know how these naturalized players thing have started. But almost each team have their own weapon for having a naturalized player, you've got the point honestly since it should be country per country's talent and players.

Well, as for Serbia and Lithuania, even having no naturalized players, they're one of the strong teams out there.

Where do we watch these games, is there an official website to watch the games for free? I only see the highlights on their website.

Most of these national teams have at least few NBA players, but level in Europe is high too, players get good money there. IMO, top Euroleague clubs would be contenders for NBA playoff spots.
True and many scouters from the NBA are taking their eyes at most times for the players of Euroleague.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 02, 2022, 09:59:46 AM
Tnoday I'm going with Finland win over Israel and Czech Republic win against Poland with price boost.
Easy opening game for Serbia, I'm going to look for points over markets there.

Where do we watch these games, is there an official website to watch the games for free? I only see the highlights on their website.
If local TV channels don't show Eurobasket, you can watch all games on https://www.courtside1891.basketball/ platform, but it's not free.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 02, 2022, 12:47:46 PM
Tnoday I'm going with Finland win over Israel and Czech Republic win against Poland with price boost.
Easy opening game for Serbia, I'm going to look for points over markets there.

Where do we watch these games, is there an official website to watch the games for free? I only see the highlights on their website.
If local TV channels don't show Eurobasket, you can watch all games on https://www.courtside1891.basketball/ platform, but it's not free.
I will be watching Greece vs Croatia later and also taking the offer of -6.5 win by Greece. I think it's reachable.

It's difficult to find free live streaming services. I bumped into one and the commentators are in different language, I am having a hard time to understand what is happening on the floor.  :D
Yeah, the best option is the link given by LTU_btc and it's actually the official streaming service being offered by FIBA.
Stake.com don't have a live stream too unlike when it's NBA.

Edit: Finland lost bro. Sorry. I was also rooting for them and Markkanen played well but it was not enough. Refs calls at the last minute of overtime are also questionable.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: rhomelmabini on September 02, 2022, 01:11:53 PM
Group A will be dominated by Spain, B by Slovenia, C by Greece and D by Serbia. This is my take in this FIBA Eurobasket. I think the real winner here will be Slovenia for Europe, I think even in the World Cup they can still dominate there, of course, if they has the same roster as we are seeing right now.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 02, 2022, 05:06:36 PM
Ergh, I thought I already won it, I was thanking Giannis Antetokounmpo for shooting the free-throw to make the lead a 7-point game, and then suddenly the 3-point prayer went in by Jaleen Smith of Croatia. Ouch!

Anyway, that was a great game. Both teams are banging each other hard on the defensive end. Saric looks healthy and it's good news for the Phoenix Suns. Bojan and Zubac were also looking great.
But the best player of the game, Giannis, worked both ends of the floor, from getting the blocks and then turning them to transition plays which was an automatic score for him. No one can stop him.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 02, 2022, 10:47:27 PM
Greece - Croatia was another great game with beast performance of Giannis. Together with Dorsey he scored 54 of 89 Greece points and let their team to win. There was quite an upset - Poland win against Czech Republic and Poland simply dominating the game. Finland lost against Israel after overtime. And Serbia, Italy and Ukraine had easy wins against weakest tournament teams.
Tomorrow is very intensive day with 12 games to be played. Main of it is France - Lithuania and according to bookmakers both teams have almost same chances to win. Italy - Greece might be interesting too. I'm also backing Finland against Poland, I hope they won't disappojnt me again :). In all other games we have obvious favorites playing against underdogs.

Group A will be dominated by Spain, B by Slovenia, C by Greece and D by Serbia. This is my take in this FIBA Eurobasket. I think the real winner here will be Slovenia for Europe, I think even in the World Cup they can still dominate there, of course, if they has the same roster as we are seeing right now.
Fun fact that Slovenia didn't got qualified for last World Cup, while being Eurobasket champions. It's because qualifiers is very flawed - players from NBA and Euroleague can't play in qualifers windows as their schedule don't allows them to do it. It's main reason why in this Eurobasket we don't have strong Latvia team.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: rhomelmabini on September 03, 2022, 10:17:33 AM
Fun fact that Slovenia didn't got qualified for last World Cup, while being Eurobasket champions. It's because qualifiers is very flawed - players from NBA and Euroleague can't play in qualifers windows as their schedule don't allows them to do it. It's main reason why in this Eurobasket we don't have strong Latvia team.
I think their career on NBA was more important. Yeah, Latvia was a strong team too especially if they have healthy Porzingis and Kurucs but if the schedule is in conflict that will really bad for the team. The next games they have will be on November and that's still early for the NBA regular season, they're for sure busy with their personal NBA teams.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LGD2Business on September 03, 2022, 11:17:19 AM
Group B is very strong, while group A is weak. There was no balanced distribution. Since the top 4 teams are out of the group, it matters who matches who in the next round. The real event will start already in the quarterfinals.
Spain and Türkiye will be the leading teams in Group A. Group B has too many candidates. Who finishes where is also very critical for the next rounds. Perhaps this standing will determine the fate of the tournament. In Group C, Greece will lead, Italy can be second. Serbia will become the leader in Group D. The favorites in the groups seem to be obvious, with the exception of group B. Of course, there is also the possibility of coming out of the group 1st and being matched with a very strong team in group B. Then it won't matter where you finished your group. We can draw a clearer roadmap after we see the round of 16.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 03, 2022, 11:26:29 AM
I am having a hard time with what game to bet for. Most of the games are way far underdogs, handicaps given are too high. It makes you doubt if those numbers are even reachable.
Montenegro vs Belgium game is about to start.
I guess I will stick with following you, bro.
I'm also backing Finland against Poland, I hope they won't disappojnt me again :). In all other games we have obvious favorites playing against underdogs.
Finland ML.

Also, I will add a bet for Lithuania to defeat France. Hmmm. This is going to be an interesting game, I will definitely watch it.
Greece vs Italy at second to the last game for today. I might not be able to watch it so I will just leave a bet for Greece too.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: xzone on September 03, 2022, 11:31:54 AM
I really liked Türkiye’s game in the friendly matches. There are still quite young and inexperienced players, the team does not consist of players who have played with each other and they need a few years of time. But they still have a very promising playing style. I think that they can come out of the group second, they may not get a good degree in this championship, but a very strong team will be formed for the coming years. I recommend you to watch today's match, Türkiye vs Bulgaria :)


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: casperBGD on September 03, 2022, 11:37:23 AM
good to see basket topic, usually we comment most football

Serbia has good team, and I think that we could reach far with Jokic on board, since without him we are struggling in world cup qualifications

so far, win over Netherlands, Czech republic today, and I think we will finish with five wins in this group



Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 04, 2022, 03:59:31 AM
Only Finland gave we the win.
https://i.imgur.com/MVVRCgE.png
Lithuania vs France game was hardcore. Both teams are going at each other in both the defensive and offensive end. At the near end of the game though, Evan Fournier found his rhythm and the France team noticed it so they feed him the ball. Truly a game changer.
Whoever was that player defending Marius Grigonis did a great job at stopping him to penetrate or shoot the ball from the outside. He was shut down and Lithuania was forced to look for other options that wrecked their whole play.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 04, 2022, 10:23:09 AM
Defeat against France was really painful. We were leading most part of game, but in the end, few mistakes and our struggle in offense let France to win game. And our NBA stars Sabonis and JV performance looks disappointing so far. We have 0-2 and now we must to win against hosts Germany today.
From yesterdays games, Greece had easy win against Italy. There was drama in Ukraine - Estonia game. Estonia were leading almost whole game, but in the end Ukraine were better and won. Finland simply destroyed Poland by 30 points.
Almost all today's games looks so one sided, except Germany - Lithuania.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 04, 2022, 11:21:11 AM
Defeat against France was really painful. We were leading most part of game, but in the end, few mistakes and our struggle in offense let France to win game. And our NBA stars Sabonis and JV performance looks disappointing so far. We have 0-2 and now we must to win against hosts Germany today.
From yesterdays games, Greece had easy win against Italy. There was drama in Ukraine - Estonia game. Estonia were leading almost whole game, but in the end Ukraine were better and won. Finland simply destroyed Poland by 30 points.
Almost all today's games looks so one sided, except Germany - Lithuania.
Yeah, I thought they could at least preserve that 2 point lead and hang until the end of the game. But France has too many options for their offense. I was waiting for a miracle at the last minute but nothing happens.
Anyway, Germany vs Lithuania, like you said a must-win for them so I will bet one more time and I hope this time it will be a win. Just taking the moneyline @1.62.

Super underdog games again. I'll pick just one from the long list. It's for Serbia to defeat Finland plus handicap -11.5. Good luck.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: iv4n on September 04, 2022, 02:17:12 PM
Defeat against France was really painful. We were leading most part of game, but in the end, few mistakes and our struggle in offense let France to win game. And our NBA stars Sabonis and JV performance looks disappointing so far. We have 0-2 and now we must to win against hosts Germany today.
From yesterdays games, Greece had easy win against Italy. There was drama in Ukraine - Estonia game. Estonia were leading almost whole game, but in the end Ukraine were better and won. Finland simply destroyed Poland by 30 points.
Almost all today's games looks so one sided, except Germany - Lithuania.

At this moment just 4 points difference. It's a tight finish...

...
Super underdog games again. I'll pick just one from the long list. It's for Serbia to defeat Finland plus handicap -11.5. Good luck.

Yesterday all favorites won, today I picked 3 games:

https://i.postimg.cc/kMNDSwLk/image.png

I like your bet on Serbia, I think I will try it with a single bet! Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 04, 2022, 06:23:59 PM
And now we have 0-3, despite that we were close from having 3-0. Lithuania lost after 2 Overtimes aagainst Germany. Again, we were close, but we simply don't have killers instinct. We didn't managed to stop Wagner who scored 32 points. In the end Schroder and Lo also added and these 3 players scored 78 of 109 Germany points.
Bosnia upset against Slovenia made things complicated in group B and Lithuania now don't have everything in their hands. Now we must beat Bosnia and wait that they will lose against France.
Belgium made biggest surprise of tournament by beating World Cup champion Spain. Belgium were leading most part of game, though in th quarter it looked that Spain already took initiative. But few Belgium 3-pointers closed the game.

Yesterday all favorites won, today I picked 3 games:

https://i.postimg.cc/kMNDSwLk/image.png
Personally I don't like parlays with such low odds. Potential win isn't big and risk is quite high. Someone still will have to screw up things as we already saw with Slovenia and Spain. I rather pick single bet with similar odds.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 05, 2022, 02:48:07 AM
And now we have 0-3, despite that we were close from having 3-0. Lithuania lost after 2 Overtimes aagainst Germany. Again, we were close, but we simply don't have killers instinct. We didn't managed to stop Wagner who scored 32 points. In the end Schroder and Lo also added and these 3 players scored 78 of 109 Germany points.
Bosnia upset against Slovenia made things complicated in group B and Lithuania now don't have everything in their hands. Now we must beat Bosnia and wait that they will lose against France.
Belgium made biggest surprise of tournament by beating World Cup champion Spain. Belgium were leading most part of game, though in th quarter it looked that Spain already took initiative. But few Belgium 3-pointers closed the game.
It was a tough game for Bosnia and Herzegovina and yet they did the impossible by defeating the defending champions Slovenia. I was surprised at what their coach did using different strategies that would best fit the team and have Slovenia be on a rough night. Doncic is 0/8 at outside shots and his penetration moves are not working much.
It's a big achievement for them so B&H celebrated with their fans at the end of the game.  :)
IIRC, that was @8.40 when you bet for them in the money line or +10 for @2.00 in the second half.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 05, 2022, 03:23:46 PM
There was another drama yesterday in Georgia - Turkey game where hosts unexpected won game after overtime. Turkey coach Ataman got ejected (nothing new for him) and now Turkey threatens to leave Eurobasket because Georgia players allegedly assaulted Korkmaz in tunnel.
It's sad that this Eurobasket is getting ruined by such scandals and huge mistakes of referees. https://basketnews.com/news-177445-blatant-mistakes-are-ruining-eurobasket-experience.html It's long article, but you can get image how terrible FIBA referees is. We haves best players from NBA and Euroleague, but referees who are working here is from third tier competitions.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: püsür on September 05, 2022, 05:39:08 PM
There was another drama yesterday in Georgia - Turkey game where hosts unexpected won game after overtime. Turkey coach Ataman got ejected (nothing new for him) and now Turkey threatens to leave Eurobasket because Georgia players allegedly assaulted Korkmaz in tunnel.
It's sad that this Eurobasket is getting ruined by such scandals and huge mistakes of referees. https://basketnews.com/news-177445-blatant-mistakes-are-ruining-eurobasket-experience.html It's long article, but you can get image how terrible FIBA referees is. We haves best players from NBA and Euroleague, but referees who are working here is from third tier competitions.
I genuinely cannot believe how much scandals happening in Eurobaskets and this one is not different. For Euroleague games, we don't see such drama and bad management. But Eurobaskets are much much worse, especially referees.

I'm not saying this because I'm Turkish but terrible things have happened yesterday. We played very bad and didn't deserved to win, there was no excuse to lose. But the things transpired are a different story. Balkans football and basketball stadiums are no stranger to violence but I didn't expect that in a national game, a Eurobasket game at this level. There could always be tension between players and ejections are normal but attacking with 3 players and 2 security guards to a player and a coach who is going to the locker room is just absurd and cowardly. And later, the security workers and police also attacked the whole Turkish national team. According to Turkish Basketball Federation officials (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1386277/omer-anan-turkey-federation-eurobasket/). And I see that now Georgia denied these accusations. I really would the see the security footage of these events. It is utterly that easy to see what happened.

These things affect the tournament in my opinion. There shouldn't be stuff like this, I wish we could just focus on the game. Group A is getting quite interesting. 4 teams with 2 wins in 3 games. It is hard to bet on this group, especially after Belgium won against Spain.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: livingfree on September 05, 2022, 06:39:46 PM
Where do we watch these games, is there an official website to watch the games for free? I only see the highlights on their website.
If local TV channels don't show Eurobasket, you can watch all games on https://www.courtside1891.basketball/ platform, but it's not free.
Thanks!

I've already found a source where to watch, my father and I just bonded and watched the game of Slovenia and Germany but on a replay.

These things affect the tournament in my opinion. There shouldn't be stuff like this, I wish we could just focus on the game. Group A is getting quite interesting. 4 teams with 2 wins in 3 games. It is hard to bet on this group, especially after Belgium won against Spain.
It certainly will affect the tournament and an issue like this really happens that we didn't expect to see. Let's just hope that things are going to be lighter and calm eventually.

And these two will settle and just have that attitude of being sports to each other and show much love for basketball as it reunites all fans from each participating countries and all over the world.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 05, 2022, 06:55:10 PM
And now we have 0-3, despite that we were close from having 3-0. Lithuania lost after 2 Overtimes aagainst Germany. Again, we were close, but we simply don't have killers instinct. We didn't managed to stop Wagner who scored 32 points. In the end Schroder and Lo also added and these 3 players scored 78 of 109 Germany points.
Bosnia upset against Slovenia made things complicated in group B and Lithuania now don't have everything in their hands. Now we must beat Bosnia and wait that they will lose against France.
Belgium made biggest surprise of tournament by beating World Cup champion Spain. Belgium were leading most part of game, though in th quarter it looked that Spain already took initiative. But few Belgium 3-pointers closed the game.
It was a tough game for Bosnia and Herzegovina and yet they did the impossible by defeating the defending champions Slovenia. I was surprised at what their coach did using different strategies that would best fit the team and have Slovenia be on a rough night. Doncic is 0/8 at outside shots and his penetration moves are not working much.
It's a big achievement for them so B&H celebrated with their fans at the end of the game.  :)
IIRC, that was @8.40 when you bet for them in the money line or +10 for @2.00 in the second half.

Trying to watch some of this, I want to see doncic play international ball.  Any team to keep him at 0/8 shooting is nothing short of amazing.  Haven't watched too much lately but how is the defense of teams in comparison of nba play?


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 05, 2022, 09:00:11 PM
WTF, Ukraine? If their first 2 wins were expected, now they won against Italy without even having lasts seconds drama. Now they have good chance not only to get out from group, but also finnish 2nd or 3rd in group.
Tomorrow we have many good games like Germany - Slovenia, Italy - Croatia, Czech Republic - Finland. Belgium - Turkey should be interesting too. And decisive day for Lithuania. We must win against underdogs Hungary and wait that France will beat Bosnia. Otherwise we are eliminated.

These things affect the tournament in my opinion. There shouldn't be stuff like this, I wish we could just focus on the game.
Mate, as Lithuanian, I know what you feel. Such things shouldn't happen in such high level competition. If everything really happened as Turkey describes, it's unbeleavable. And also, referees have stolen over 20 seconds of this game and didn't even noticed it.

Haven't watched too much lately but how is the defense of teams in comparison of nba play?
It's difficult to compare it with NBA defense. Here we don't have defensive 3 seconds rule, what is killer for defense in the paint. But without few exceptions, nobody can't stop Doncic.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 06, 2022, 05:18:27 AM
^Lots of issues and shocking events on that day.
Turkey - waiting for the security footage about what happened backstage. It is said that Furkan Korkmaz was attacked by 3 Georgian players. We will see on the next news and I wish they leak it out.

Lithuania vs Germany - Where is the damn technical free-throw? It was not given to Valančiūnas after he was fouled. They only gave him 2 instead of 3 including the unsportsmanlike call/technical, iirc.

B&H and Belgium upset the strong teams.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 06, 2022, 07:03:49 AM
^Lots of issues and shocking events on that day.
Turkey - waiting for the security footage about what happened backstage. It is said that Furkan Korkmaz was attacked by 3 Georgian players. We will see on the next news and I wish they leak it out.

Lithuania vs Germany - Where is the damn technical free-throw? It was not given to Valančiūnas after he was fouled. They only gave him 2 instead of 3 including the unsportsmanlike call/technical, iirc.

B&H and Belgium upset the strong teams.

So far my bets are 0-3. :D :D :D

I actually stopped following and watching after losing all my bets. But since I found this thread today I will start following again and maybe I will bet again. It's just unusual, especially the upsets. It seems like Luka Doncic and Slovenia are in a death group with Germany, Norkic's B&H, mighty France, and Lithuania. Hungary will have a hard time winning a single game as the other countries are competing to reach the top and sees the Hungarians as a must-win bonus. 


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 06, 2022, 03:02:18 PM
So far my bets are 0-3. :D :D :D

I actually stopped following and watching after losing all my bets. But since I found this thread today I will start following again and maybe I will bet again. It's just unusual, especially the upsets. It seems like Luka Doncic and Slovenia are in a death group with Germany, Norkic's B&H, mighty France, and Lithuania. Hungary will have a hard time winning a single game as the other countries are competing to reach the top and sees the Hungarians as a must-win bonus. 
To be honest I am also not on a good streak. It's 3 wins and 4 losses in my case and the surprising wins of teams that are expected to lose did it.  ;D
Thankfully, Serbia covered the -11.5 vs Finland and that adds to my wins.
It's not easy, teams today have strong players and new names are being known in the league. We also expected NBA players will dominate and I think the bookies do too but upsets had been happening over and over.



Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 06, 2022, 08:45:58 PM
Thanks to France who beat Bosnia and let Lithuania to stay alive. We finally achieved first win and it was easy against Hungary. Tomorrow we will face Bosnia in direct fight for 4th place in group. Playoffs begins for us now.
Germany Slovenia was great game. Germany gave good fight. I only don't understand why they fouled against Slovenia so late in last posession and barely left time for themselves.
Beast performance of Giannis - 41 point against Ukraine. It was close game until 3rd quarter, where Greece won 32:11.
Georgia unexpected lost against Bulgaria and now group hosts risking to be eliminated.
Finland in high scoring game won against hosts Czech Republic. Now Czech will face Israel in decisive game for place in playoffs.
Italy - Croatia haven't ended yet and it's very close game as expected.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 07, 2022, 02:37:20 AM
Thanks to France who beat Bosnia and let Lithuania to stay alive. We finally achieved first win and it was easy against Hungary. Tomorrow we will face Bosnia in direct fight for 4th place in group. Playoffs begins for us now.
Germany Slovenia was great game. Germany gave good fight. I only don't understand why they fouled against Slovenia so late in last posession and barely left time for themselves.
Beast performance of Giannis - 41 point against Ukraine. It was close game until 3rd quarter, where Greece won 32:11.
Georgia unexpected lost against Bulgaria and now group hosts risking to be eliminated.
Finland in high scoring game won against hosts Czech Republic. Now Czech will face Israel in decisive game for place in playoffs.
Italy - Croatia haven't ended yet and it's very close game as expected.
Bosnia did a good job making it a close game after the 3rd quarter but France just dominated them in the 4th.
Now it becomes a fight for the 4th place in Group B. Lithuania vs B&H later. This is going to be an exciting game. Will be rooting for Lithuania again and I wish this time I will be right. I am 0/2 at betting for them.
If they win and ended with a tie, it will be score basis as the tiebreaker, right? That's why they still keep on scoring even if the game is a blowout unlike in NBA.

Group C is done. Group D Israel needs to defeat the Czech Republic to assure its entry. Group A though, is on a rollercoaster.  ;D
https://i.imgur.com/sUvY7uk.png
Thanks to Giannis, but he made me a bit worried until the 3rd.  ;)



Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 07, 2022, 01:27:36 PM
Congrats on your winning bets guys. I also ended my losing streak and am now on a 3 winning streak. Thanks to France indeed. Although I never took the minus points as I want to make it safe just to secure that my losing streak ends.

In a couple of hours, we will have another great matchup between France and Slovenia. I'm still undecided on who to bet on as I like both teams.

I felt bad for the loser between B&H and Lithuania, they seem capable of reaching the knockout stage if they weren't assigned to this group. So far Lithuania is leading by 14 points at halftime but it is still very early to tell. The winner should seal the 4th place, right?


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 07, 2022, 02:35:31 PM
Congrats on your winning bets guys. I also ended my losing streak and am now on a 3 winning streak. Thanks to France indeed. Although I never took the minus points as I want to make it safe just to secure that my losing streak ends.

In a couple of hours, we will have another great matchup between France and Slovenia. I'm still undecided on who to bet on as I like both teams.

I felt bad for the loser between B&H and Lithuania, they seem capable of reaching the knockout stage if they weren't assigned to this group. So far Lithuania is leading by 14 points at halftime but it is still very early to tell. The winner should seal the 4th place, right?
That's later and I'm actually excited to see Luka again. I just wish this will not be the same performance as he did in his previous games where his shooting percentage was way low that what is expected from him.

A win! Yey!
Finally! Lithuania gave me one win in all my bets for them. It's not much but it's still a win.
https://i.imgur.com/ShopcCO.png
The odd is -10 before the game starts and I was worried they won't cover that spread. Well, they did.
Jonas Valančiūnas. I want to see him become that kind of leader for their team. And the plays written by their coach for Sabonis, that was all awesome.
He made most of the big men in B&H in foul trouble.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: YOSHIE on September 07, 2022, 04:02:30 PM
Good chance to bet on EuroBasket basketball match this year, I can watch this match live on one of the private tv in my country, i'm a little late to watch in group stage, but i still have chance in knockout stage.

This will make a new history to start the 2022 EuroBasket tournament, the last one being held in 2017, I saw some of the top basketball teams taking part in the European tournament this year, such as: Belgium, Spain in group A and Germany, France in group B, so on.

I will follow the round of 16 teams that qualify and are ready to bet, it seems that Group A Spain, Belgium qualify and Germany, France, on average from these teams 6-7 pawns they have obtained.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: xzone on September 07, 2022, 06:18:12 PM
Today's match between Spain and Türkiye was very good. We watched a pretty good fight and the match continued very exciting until the last seconds. Türkiye could not win this match because of a few simple mistakes at the end of the match, Spain performed worse than I thought.
Now they are among the last 16 teams and the more exciting part of the tournament will have started. I hope we watch matches where the referees don't make mistakes :)


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 07, 2022, 07:47:19 PM
France - Slovenia, what a game. 47 points of Doncis is something incredible, 2nd best result in Eurobasket history. But he got posterized by Gobert :D. But in last minutes brother Dragic were key players. Though, Fournier and coach Collet was furious at referees for not given foul on final seconds when he steal the ball. So, Slovenia won group of death.
Lithuania saved me some nerves by winning confident against B&H and somehow reaching next round. We get Spain in 1/8 final, what should be great game.
Fiasco for Georgia - last place in group while being hosts. It only shows how important for them is Shengelia.
So, we already know 4 1/8 final pairs - Germany - Montenegro, Lithuania - Spain,  Slovenia - Belgium and Turkey - France.
I felt bad for the loser between B&H and Lithuania, they seem capable of reaching the knockout stage if they weren't assigned to this group. So far Lithuania is leading by 14 points at halftime but it is still very early to tell. The winner should seal the 4th place, right?
Good point about B&H. In all other groups they probably wouldn't have problems to reach next round.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 08, 2022, 05:54:52 AM
France - Slovenia, what a game. 47 points of Doncis is something incredible, 2nd best result in Eurobasket history. But he got posterized by Gobert :D. But in last minutes brother Dragic were key players. Though, Fournier and coach Collet was furious at referees for not given foul on final seconds when he steal the ball. So, Slovenia won group of death.
Group of Death.  ;D
I was so sleepy at the end of the 3rd quarter so I was unable to finish it. It was a tie game if I remember correctly.
Tough game and a lot of players are getting hurt by the physicality that is happening. I even thought Luka won't return after being hit hard.
Every play was so important that it almost looked like a playoff game. Are there perks for being at the top of one group, because I don't know the rules about it?

Lithuania saved me some nerves by winning confident against B&H and somehow reaching next round. We get Spain in 1/8 final, what should be great game.
Fiasco for Georgia - last place in group while being hosts. It only shows how important for them is Shengelia.
So, we already know 4 1/8 final pairs - Germany - Montenegro, Lithuania - Spain,  Slovenia - Belgium and Turkey - France.
Okay so there are 5 games, I guess that is where I am confused with. I thought there are only 4 games.
So Israel is still not safe for the qualifying 16 in Group D and if they are defeated by the Czech then it will be them who takes the spot.
Group C is just finishing up in rankings but 4 teams are already identified to qualify while Group D is still not complete.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 08, 2022, 11:20:51 AM
France - Slovenia, what a game. 47 points of Doncis is something incredible, 2nd best result in Eurobasket history. But he got posterized by Gobert :D. But in last minutes brother Dragic were key players. Though, Fournier and coach Collet was furious at referees for not given foul on final seconds when he steal the ball. So, Slovenia won group of death.
Group of Death.  ;D
I was so sleepy at the end of the 3rd quarter so I was unable to finish it. It was a tie game if I remember correctly.
Tough game and a lot of players are getting hurt by the physicality that is happening. I even thought Luka won't return after being hit hard.
Every play was so important that it almost looked like a playoff game. Are there perks for being at the top of one group, because I don't know the rules about it?
Very tough game. France tried to bury Slovenia early but they cannot stop the momentum from shifting away. Luka Doncic had an insane night and looked unstoppable even if Gobert tried to guard him. France was always in the game but they cannot catch up with the Slovenians. It was like a do-or-die game because taking the top and second spots guaranteed facing the 3rd and 4th placers of Group A. After the defeat, France dropped to 3rd and they are facing the 2nd seed of Group A which is the ever dangerous Turkey. Top Slovenia is expected to have an easier time against the Belgians. The same with 2nd seed Germany, they are also expected to beat Montenegro.


Lithuania saved me some nerves by winning confident against B&H and somehow reaching next round. We get Spain in 1/8 final, what should be great game.
Fiasco for Georgia - last place in group while being hosts. It only shows how important for them is Shengelia.
So, we already know 4 1/8 final pairs - Germany - Montenegro, Lithuania - Spain,  Slovenia - Belgium and Turkey - France.
Okay so there are 5 games, I guess that is where I am confused with. I thought there are only 4 games.
So Israel is still not safe for the qualifying 16 in Group D and if they are defeated by the Czech then it will be them who takes the spot.
Group C is just finishing up in rankings but 4 teams are already identified to qualify while Group D is still not complete.
Yes, mate. It's round robin and there are 6 teams in a group, which means all teams will play 5 games each. And yes, Israel is not yet safe. If Czech wins then Israel's only hope is for Finland to lose against the Netherlands. But the Finns are heavy favorites to win over the still winless Dutch team.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 08, 2022, 01:20:31 PM
Very tough game. France tried to bury Slovenia early but they cannot stop the momentum from shifting away. Luka Doncic had an insane night and looked unstoppable even if Gobert tried to guard him. France was always in the game but they cannot catch up with the Slovenians. It was like a do-or-die game because taking the top and second spots guaranteed facing the 3rd and 4th placers of Group A. After the defeat, France dropped to 3rd and they are facing the 2nd seed of Group A which is the ever dangerous Turkey. Top Slovenia is expected to have an easier time against the Belgians. The same with 2nd seed Germany, they are also expected to beat Montenegro.
Thank you for the patient explanation. Now it's all clear to me. So it's just like the playoffs per bracket where the top will be battling the bottom.
I guess about the point system we can just let them handle that and show us who will advance when a tiebreaker happens.

Yes, mate. It's round robin and there are 6 teams in a group, which means all teams will play 5 games each. And yes, Israel is not yet safe. If Czech wins then Israel's only hope is for Finland to lose against the Netherlands. But the Finns are heavy favorites to win over the still winless Dutch team.
I took a bet for the Czech Republic, fingers crossed for them to win it.
Finland is winning and it looks like the Netherlands cannot recover from that kind of lead. 78-51. 9 minutes left.
So it will be a do-or-die for Israel vs Czech.
Croatia vs Ukraine on the other hand is a close game even now at the 3rd quarter. A battle for the 2nd place and a strategy to avoid Greece.

Edit: Something weird happened in the last 20 seconds of the game between Croatia vs Ukraine. Bojan missed the bonus shot on purpose and then Ukraine players asking their coach if they should shoot or not. What's that?


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 08, 2022, 03:25:27 PM
Edit: Something weird happened in the last 20 seconds of the game between Croatia vs Ukraine. Bojan missed the bonus shot on purpose and then Ukraine players asking their coach if they should shoot or not. What's that?
Croatia decided to pick an potential opponent in 1/4 final. If Croatia would have won by 8 or more points, they would potentially get Slovenia in 1/4 final. Now they will get winner of Spain - Lithuania. Also, it means that Italy will finnish 4th in this group and they will get Serbia in 1/8 final. Personally I don't like such opponents picking and usually such dirty games don't end well for that team.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 09, 2022, 04:21:15 AM
I took a bet for the Czech Republic, fingers crossed for them to win it.
Another win. Congrats mate. I should have bet on Czech too because I knew Israel is the underdog but I was reluctant to take the risk in that do-or-die game.

Edit: Something weird happened in the last 20 seconds of the game between Croatia vs Ukraine. Bojan missed the bonus shot on purpose and then Ukraine players asking their coach if they should shoot or not. What's that?
Croatia decided to pick an potential opponent in 1/4 final. If Croatia would have won by 8 or more points, they would potentially get Slovenia in 1/4 final. Now they will get winner of Spain - Lithuania. Also, it means that Italy will finnish 4th in this group and they will get Serbia in 1/8 final. Personally I don't like such opponents picking and usually such dirty games don't end well for that team.
Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand more about the points system. I really thought that the overall total points difference will be used once head-to-head is not enough for tie-breakers. Poor Italy, they dropped to 4th when I thought they secured the 2nd spot since they have a total of 45 points differential. Now Italy is likely to get dropped by Serbia while Croatia and Ukraine are most likely to win against their next opponents.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 09, 2022, 06:54:59 AM
I took a bet for the Czech Republic, fingers crossed for them to win it.
Another win. Congrats mate. I should have bet on Czech too because I knew Israel is the underdog but I was reluctant to take the risk in that do-or-die game.
Yeah, it was a great day for me.  ;) 2 for 2. Croatia got me worried when at that last second there when they are trying to control the point system.
https://i.imgur.com/BzYpZvf.png
Edit: Something weird happened in the last 20 seconds of the game between Croatia vs Ukraine. Bojan missed the bonus shot on purpose and then Ukraine players asking their coach if they should shoot or not. What's that?
Croatia decided to pick an potential opponent in 1/4 final. If Croatia would have won by 8 or more points, they would potentially get Slovenia in 1/4 final. Now they will get winner of Spain - Lithuania. Also, it means that Italy will finnish 4th in this group and they will get Serbia in 1/8 final. Personally I don't like such opponents picking and usually such dirty games don't end well for that team.
Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand more about the points system. I really thought that the overall total points difference will be used once head-to-head is not enough for tie-breakers. Poor Italy, they dropped to 4th when I thought they secured the 2nd spot since they have a total of 45 points differential. Now Italy is likely to get dropped by Serbia while Croatia and Ukraine are most likely to win against their next opponents.
Okay, so I understand more the pattern when it comes to playoff rounds.
Correct me if I am wrong here.
Group A vs Group B but there's a catch. Rank 1 of Group A will battle Rank 4 of Group B. 2nd versus 3rd and vice versa.
The same will happen with Groups C and D.
So that's why they are trying to control the point system to target a team where they will have the upper hand. Yeah, it's a dirty one.
Thank you LTU_btc for the explanation.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 09, 2022, 11:10:11 PM
EuroBasket 1/8 finals begins on Saturday. It starts with Turkey - France game. After loss of Larkin, Turkey have don't much chances, but I still expect close game and France win in the end.
Then Slovenia - Belgium, least interesting pair. Zero chances for Belgium and probably we will see many nice moments from Doncic & co.
Germany - Montenegro. Hosts Germany is heavy favorites.
Spain - Lithuania. According to bookmakers, Lithuania is favorites, but despite that all Spain loses and change of generation, you simply can't understimate them too much. For me it's 50/50 game

Correct me if I am wrong here.
You're absolutely correct.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 10, 2022, 03:48:04 AM
EuroBasket 1/8 finals begins on Saturday. It starts with Turkey - France game. After loss of Larkin, Turkey have don't much chances, but I still expect close game and France win in the end.
Then Slovenia - Belgium, least interesting pair. Zero chances for Belgium and probably we will see many nice moments from Doncic & co.
Germany - Montenegro. Hosts Germany is heavy favorites.
I will pass for Slovenia vs Belgium team bet but I will take the end total points at Over 169.
-6.5 for France should be covered too. Sad for what happened to Larkin.
I am taking a risk for Montenegro +10 vs Germany. They may lose but I think there's a chance a high handicap like that could be covered.
Spain - Lithuania. According to bookmakers, Lithuania is favorites, but despite that all Spain loses and change of generation, you simply can't understimate them too much. For me it's 50/50 game
Oh bad luck. I was preparing my bet for Lithuania if ever they will be the underdog. I mean, I want higher profits and I am in high spirits that they can win the game.
The line is -3.5 Lithuania for only 1.70. I guess I'll just take that if ever there won't be any change until later.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LGD2Business on September 10, 2022, 12:04:19 PM
It's not just about throwing a three-pointer. You will defend, you will know how to play the last ball. Otherwise, you will give the match you have won like this. Even if Cedi Osman scored 1 in 2 free throws, the match was over in normal time. They played a very bad end of the match and caused the match to be extended. Opportunity was again seized in the last ball in overtime, but this time Furkan lost the ball. It was the end of the match before he could even try to shoot. Such a bad endgame could not have been played. France continues. Gobert is an unstoppable player under the basket. Let's see how far they'll go.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on September 10, 2022, 12:09:03 PM
Such a waste by Turkey!

I wasn't expecting my country to compete with France at the same level honestly. Especially after seeing the eight-point difference at halftime I started thinking like France would have a comfortable win. But Turkey played incredible in the third quarter. A 22-6 lead at the end carried us ahead of France by 8 points. The last quarter was too exciting. It was going on very close but Turkey had a huge opportunity to eliminate one of the favourites of the tournament. Cedi Osman was so unlucky while it was up to him for Turkey to finish this without OT. He missed both free-throws.

OT was just as I expected and we failed by 87-86. Furkan Korkmaz made a huge mistake in the last seconds and we couldn't use our last chance properly once again. It wouldn't have been this much problem for me if we lost by a big point difference. But losing like this is unacceptable. We could have won this game after all that effort.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 10, 2022, 12:12:10 PM
It's not just about throwing a three-pointer. You will defend, you will know how to play the last ball. Otherwise, you will give the match you have won like this. Even if Cedi Osman scored 1 in 2 free throws, the match was over in normal time. They played a very bad end of the match and caused the match to be extended. Opportunity was again seized in the last ball in overtime, but this time Furkan lost the ball. It was the end of the match before he could even try to shoot. Such a bad endgame could not have been played. France continues. Gobert is an unstoppable player under the basket. Let's see how far they'll go.
Turkey was given a lot of chances to close it out in a good lead but those 2 free throws were missed by Osman and then the bad possession.
I can say they fought well, it was a rollercoaster ride, it even got me standing in my seat while watching both teams doing their best to win the game.  
Gobert also changed in the overtime, he became more aggressive in the paint and it was rewarded although those free throws are also wasted.

Furkan Korkmaz is a damn good player, and even without Larkin they almost won it, I bet he is so proud to see it end up like that good.
Lost my bet but watching it was worth it.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: xzone on September 10, 2022, 12:27:00 PM
Unfortunately, Türkiye unsuccessfully uses the last ball in their matches. same thing happened today and sadly lost the match.
Missing a free throw is very sad and not acceptable, professional basketball players should not make this mistake in such critical matches. It was ridiculous that Furkan Korkmaz could not use the last ball, I wish he had tried to make a pass. I did not think that such an unsuccessful offense would be used while there was still enough time.
Buğrahan Tuncer deserves a special applause today, he made very critical shots


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 10, 2022, 10:31:56 PM
Lithuania wins against Lithuania after overtime. Championship is over for us... Lithuania were leading bigger part of game, but we simply can't win close games. We don't have players who can't kill opponents like other elite teams have. Brazdeikis buzer which sent game to OT was miracle, but in OT we had no chance.
It's incredible how Turkey managed to lose game that they already almost won. And in OT when they had another chance to win, on last attack they simply lost ball without even making shot.
Final result of Slovenia - Belgium don't reflect game. Belgium gave good fight and even were leading in 4th quarter, but in the end Slovenia were better. But I don't like what threatment from referees Doncic is getting. He can talk with refs how much does he wants and he wont get technical foul. And offcourse, every touch against him is foul.
Germany had very powerful start and were leading by almost 30 points, but Montenegro made a comeback and managed to stay in fight until final minutes. But their efforts weren't enough and Germany won game.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 11, 2022, 06:36:16 AM
^I got lucky with that comeback of Montenegro, somehow it covered the +10 bet for them.
https://i.imgur.com/c2DqNDU.png

I thought Belgium could keep up with Slovenia so I can hit the Over 169. But they just stopped making points in the 4th quarter. They were great and even had a chance to take the lead and commentators are even predicting the biggest upset that could happen.
Luka Doncic is just bad. He got used to the different rules in FIBA. Those attacks aiming for the opponent to take the foul won't work in NBA because of the new rule but here he could do it again.
It should be either an offensive foul or no-call.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: harizen on September 11, 2022, 10:34:56 AM
Luka Doncic is just bad. He got used to the different rules in FIBA. Those attacks aiming for the opponent to take the foul won't work in NBA because of the new rule but here he could do it again.
It should be either an offensive foul or no-call.

Can't wait to see how he will adjust to that new rule in NBA. As he mentioned before, it's easy to score buckets in NBA compare to Euroleague because of the different rules and way of gameplay. As I watched some of his highlights recently, his scoring came from different zones therefore if taking a foul driving to the hoop won't work now in NBA, he can easily shift gears.

Since there's no change of the rules regarding that in FIBA or in European Basketball in general, he will continue to take advantage of that.

But above all of my statement, damn Luka. He is really turning into a monster.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 11, 2022, 01:23:45 PM
But above all of my statement, damn Luka. He is really turning into a monster.
Sure do. I think that's one of the reasons why MJ likes him. It's not about the shoe, it's being wise inside the court and knowing where the officials are to hook a foul or just get away from it when he is in defense.
If he keeps this up, he will be one of the players that will dominate both the Euroleague and the NBA.
Hey, you are a Mavericks fan. That's biased.  ;D

Poland won, damn. I was sure Ukraine can handle them.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 11, 2022, 08:59:04 PM
I love this game! Another amazing day in Eurobasket, all 4 games were so good. Italy made biggest upset so far by eliminating one of main contenders Serbia. In the end of 3rd quarter Italy coach Pozzecco got ejected and it's amazing how Italy started to play after it. Maybe Serbia had much more talent, but Italy players played with heart and gave everything. Just watch Pozzecco emotions in the end, unbeleavable. I remember this guy as player, and now as coach he didn't changed at all, he is called La Mosca Atomica not without a reason:
https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1569027234286997505
Greece - Czech Republic, what a great game, Czech gave great fight. Giannis in the end closed the game, but opponents still didn't gave up. Giannis struggled in previous FIBA tournaments, but now he simply dominate like in NBA.
Finland won against Croatia, I'm not sure that I can call it as upset. I can complain about Lithuania performance, but what Croatia is doing for almost 30 years is simply shame. They always have good player, but they didn't achieved anything since 1995. Lauri Markkanen, what a performance, 43 points 19/29 FG, simply wow!
Ukraine lost against Poland. Poland were underdogs, but they played much more solid in the end.
Interesting coincidence that 3 of 4 today's games ended withsame score 86:94. Only Greece - Czech Republic ended 94:88, Czech scored 2 points too much :D
Now we have 1/4 finals Greece - Germany, Spain - Finland, Poland - Slovenia and France - Italy.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: püsür on September 11, 2022, 09:16:40 PM
I love this game! Another amazing day in Eurobasket, all 4 games were so good. Italy made biggest upset so far by eliminating one of main contenders Serbia. In the end of 3rd quarter Italy coach Pozzecco got ejected and it's amazing how Italy started to play after it. Maybe Serbia had much more talent, but Italy players played with heart and gave everything. Just watch Pozzecco emotions in the end, unbeleavable. I remember this guy as player, and now as coach he didn't changed at all, he is called La Mosca Atomica not without a reason:
https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1569027234286997505
Greece - Czech Republic, what a great game, Czech gave great fight. Giannis in the end closed the game, but opponents still didn't gave up. Giannis struggled in previous FIBA tournaments, but now he simply dominate like in NBA.
Finland won against Croatia, I'm not sure that I can call it as upset. I can complain about Lithuania performance, but what Croatia is doing for almost 30 years is simply shame. They always have good player, but they didn't achieved anything since 1995. Lauri Markkanen, what a performance, 43 points 19/29 FG, simply wow!
Ukraine lost against Poland. Poland were underdogs, but they played much more solid in the end.
Interesting coincidence that 3 of 4 today's games ended withsame score 86:94. Only Greece - Czech Republic ended 94:88, Czech scored 2 points too much :D
Now we have 1/4 finals Greece - Germany, Spain - Finland, Poland - Slovenia and France - Italy.
Pozzeco was one of the most memorable person of this tournament and his reactions were incredible. Look at this as well:
https://twitter.com/EuroBasket/status/1569032952008556544

What Italy accomplished is highly respectable. Serbia was my personal favorite of this tournament to win, for they are the most over-all good team in my opinion but Italy had a great game.

On the other hand, Turkey - France game was also incredible. The lead of France in the first half and how Turkey got ahead in the second half was absolutely crazy. And how Turkey lost the game... I can hardly find words the describe the frustration. Turkey basically gave the game that they could easily win. It was on of the most unbelievable games in recent memory.

I think we can clearly see who will advance to the semi finals. Except the Greece - Germany match. Can Germany surprise everyone with their home-court advantage? If so, then I think this tournament can be considered even the best one of all time.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 12, 2022, 12:51:58 AM
Finland won against Croatia, I'm not sure that I can call it as upset. I can complain about Lithuania performance, but what Croatia is doing for almost 30 years is simply shame. They always have good player, but they didn't achieved anything since 1995. Lauri Markkanen, what a performance, 43 points 19/29 FG, simply wow!
I watched the whole game of this and all I can say is Lauri Markkanen dominated the entire 1st to 4th quarter of it. That's his night, all his shots were hitting and the pace of the game was playing in his hands. Bojan Bogdanovic cannot even answer in all of his attacks. That young player has a lot of future ahead of him that's why I was confused about why the Cavaliers traded him to Utah Jazz.
IMO, they made a big mistake and it's all showing now. He is on his way to stardom in the next few years of his career as long as healthy. Better, his experience will be broad playing Euro and NBA.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 12, 2022, 08:32:21 AM
A lot of stuff happened last weekend including a lot of surprises.

Lithuania-Spain was a great game and I thought the Lithuanians will upset the Spaniards but they came up short after losing in overtime. But this was already surprising as underdog Lithuania nearly made it. But the best game was France versus Turkey. What a game. I had a small bet on France but I knew anything can happen in that game including a possible Turk victory.

Everyone thought Giannis and the Greeks were too much for the Czech but they only won by 6 points. And anybody here bet on Finland to win over Croatia? And the biggest surprise? Serbia lost to Italy. Damn, I cannot believe it. I predicted earlier that Serbia and Greece will vie for the championship. Now I think France or Slovenia or Greece can win the championships.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 12, 2022, 03:42:56 PM
Everyone thought Giannis and the Greeks were too much for the Czech but they only won by 6 points. And anybody here bet on Finland to win over Croatia? And the biggest surprise? Serbia lost to Italy. Damn, I cannot believe it. I predicted earlier that Serbia and Greece will vie for the championship. Now I think France or Slovenia or Greece can win the championships.
Honestly, I took the bet the other way around.  ;D
https://i.imgur.com/twWcM7Q.png
IIRC, I input the bet when Finland was in the lead by two in the 2nd quarter. My mistake, which happens when you are expecting too much from a team with NBA players, especially Bojan Bogdanovic and Saric.
Finland found a big hole when Saric was defending Markannen, the paint is always open wide when he goes up and defends. They took advantage of that or they will let Markannen use his speed and attack it on his own. It worked and they won.



Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: goinmerry on September 12, 2022, 11:22:31 PM
Everyone thought Giannis and the Greeks were too much for the Czech but they only won by 6 points.

Greece is supposed to be too much for the Czech but surprisingly, the latter team did some good adjustments in that game and try to keep up with the phase.

Even the Greece main guy, Giannis Antetokounmpo end up in decent stats, the Czech didn't allow themselves to be overpowered.

As for pre-betting on this match, I think Greece has a -12 handicap and should be easy-covered. Many bettors maybe got wrecked on that bet and that shows we can't really trust handicaps in some cases for top teams even if they have an NBA Superstar on the roster.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 13, 2022, 09:35:57 AM
So, today we have two 1/4 final games. Spain - Finland and Greece - Germany.
Spain is favorites against Finland. Maybe they are understimated in whole tournament in general, but they have pprobably best coach in tournament and they always look better in playoffs than in group. I expect good fight, but Spain should win by few points.
Greece - Germany. It should be interesting game. Germany looking very solid and they're playing at home, what is big factor. But Giannis is unstoppable. Greece is favoured a bit, but I'm not going to predict who will win.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: casperBGD on September 13, 2022, 11:27:31 AM
Serbia losing to Italy is a proof that we have talent, but do not have a team, and this is how it happens, expected much more, but came short of (few three pointers aligned in fourth quarter helped Italy, but we should have solid difference by that moment)

Greece is much better than Germany, but they are too much focus on Giannis, will be interesting to see them against team players, like Italy
Spain will win easily against Finland, IMO


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 13, 2022, 12:24:18 PM
So, today we have two 1/4 final games. Spain - Finland and Greece - Germany.
Spain is favorites against Finland. Maybe they are understimated in whole tournament in general, but they have pprobably best coach in tournament and they always look better in playoffs than in group. I expect good fight, but Spain should win by few points.
Greece - Germany. It should be interesting game. Germany looking very solid and they're playing at home, what is big factor. But Giannis is unstoppable. Greece is favoured a bit, but I'm not going to predict who will win.
Betting for Finland with +5.5 in case those few points that you mentioned will be near it. I hope below my bet.  :D
A win though will be better and I took the risk because of the performance they did against Croatia. They are not to be underestimated especially Lauri Markkanen. 
In the other game, I am going for Greece with -5.5. Transition plays will be a big factor because that's where Giannis can take advantage of using his size and strength. With the post-up game, he is having trouble forcing his way to the rim, it will just end up being an offensive foul.

Are officials getting stricter at this stage of the league?


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 13, 2022, 09:11:24 PM
Dirk Nowitzki should be proud. Germany returns to elite after long absence. They scored 107 points against one of the best defense in tournament Greece and eliminated one of main contenders. 17/31 3-pointers, 54%, it's very impressive. Maybe Germany don't have big stars besides Schroder, but they are great as a team. Giannis was solid again, despite getting ejected in 4th quarter. But you simply can't expect to win when you let opponent to score 107.
As FIBA wrote on their page, there is some inevitable things - death, taxes and Spain in the semifinal. Finland looked very solid in first half, even had 15 points lead, but in 2nd half simply dominated. Before tournament not many saw Spain even as medal contenders, but now have not bad chances to win another gold.
Tomorrow Italy - France and Slovenia - Poland. With all respect to Poland, there is no questions about this game. France is favorite against Italy, but Italy already kicked out one favorite, why not to do it another time. It should be amazing game.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 14, 2022, 12:46:15 AM
^Finland exhausted their energy in the first half. They had a good lead until Spain started doing a suffocating defense in the 2nd half.
Rudy Fernandez. Damn old man's energy was in the spotlight from a suicidal ball save to avoid a turnover and highlight steals that changed the pace of the game in favor of Spain.
Then the Hail Mary 3-point shot put the last nail in the coffin.
Did I hear it right, this will be his last season in Eurobasket.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: bisdak40 on September 14, 2022, 11:52:44 AM
Italy already kicked out one favorite, why not to do it another time. It should be amazing game.

They slayed Serbia and their confidence level by now must be very high so i'm riding with them to beat Rudy Gobert and company in the next few hours. Not so familiar with the players of Italy but the fact that they beat Serbia, they must have a solid lineup than have the chance to take the crown this year's FIBA or at least fight in the finals.

https://i.imgur.com/nbxRL7e.png


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 14, 2022, 02:19:25 PM
Italy already kicked out one favorite, why not to do it another time. It should be amazing game.

They slayed Serbia and their confidence level by now must be very high so i'm riding with them to beat Rudy Gobert and company in the next few hours. Not so familiar with the players of Italy but the fact that they beat Serbia, they must have a solid lineup than have the chance to take the crown this year's FIBA or at least fight in the finals.

https://i.imgur.com/nbxRL7e.png
Congratulations. That was one heck of a risk you took there. How much was it if it was ML?

I am tailing that ride with Italy against France. Right now it's ML is 2.55. Yes, they are the underdogs even if they beat Serbia which is good for those willing to take the risk just like us.  :D
The game will start in an hour. I am expecting this to be an entertaining one and I hope another shocking upset will happen.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 14, 2022, 08:46:51 PM
Eurobasket will have new champions. Slovenia got eliminated by Poland, it's biggest upset in this tournament without any doubts and probably best achievement in Poland history. At one point Poland were leading by +20 points and I didn't believed in my eyes what I see. In 3rd quarter Slovenia made comeback and won it 24:6. They already took a lead and it looked that they will run away and will win it by double digits. But Poland didn't gave up and won game. Mateusz Ponitka - triple double, 26 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists, you don't see it often in European basketball. It wasn't night of Doncic, just 14 points and fouled out in crucial moments.
So, 3 biggest stars, Doncic, Antetokounmpo and Jokic eliminated.
Italy - France, what a game! Italy had chance to win without overtime, but Fontecchio missed two free throws and and later missed field goal on last attack. France in this tournament have not just lot of luck, but their players have big ball on decisive moments.
Semifinals - Germany - Spain and Poland - France.

Did I hear it right, this will be his last season in Eurobasket.
Don't know, Scariolo expect that he won't retire after Eurobasket. He may be old, but is still clutch player.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 15, 2022, 05:43:58 AM
Eurobasket will have new champions. Slovenia got eliminated by Poland, it's biggest upset in this tournament without any doubts and probably best achievement in Poland history. At one point Poland were leading by +20 points and I didn't believed in my eyes what I see. In 3rd quarter Slovenia made comeback and won it 24:6. They already took a lead and it looked that they will run away and will win it by double digits. But Poland didn't gave up and won game. Mateusz Ponitka - triple double, 26 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists, you don't see it often in European basketball. It wasn't night of Doncic, just 14 points and fouled out in crucial moments.
So, 3 biggest stars, Doncic, Antetokounmpo and Jokic eliminated.
The biggest upset indeed, and Slovenia was also upset about the no-call by the referee on that last shot, he really thought he was fouled and that's why he threw the ball. If only Doncic was still on the floor there might be a difference at the end of the game.
Congratulations to Poland. A.J. Slaughter was slaughtering every defender by using his speed. It's a great way to break the defense of Slovenia.

Italy - France, what a game! Italy had chance to win without overtime, but Fontecchio missed two free throws and and later missed field goal on last attack. France in this tournament have not just lot of luck, but their players have big ball on decisive moments.
Semifinals - Germany - Spain and Poland - France.
I lost my bet here but that's just entertainment at its best that I don't even regret it.
France had the 1st half but after a good rest at halftime, Italy came back strong until mistakes and tension came in. This time though, they knew they are a strong team. Next tournament they will be back with higher confidence.

Did I hear it right, this will be his last season in Eurobasket.
Don't know, Scariolo expect that he won't retire after Eurobasket. He may be old, but is still clutch player.
We will see once the game ends. They give a ball at the end of the game for retirees, right?


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 15, 2022, 10:55:53 AM
Wow! I'm kind of speechless to this year's EuroBasket. Great games and full of surprises. Nikola Jokic and the Serbian's were my top favorite to win this year's tournament but they lost in the round of 16. And in the quarterfinals, I think 3 out of 4 were full of surprises. I forgot if Spain was the favorite to win over Finland. But 2 of the remaining 3 NBA superstars exited too as Giannis and the Greeks were dropped by the sharp-shooting Germans while Luka and the Slovenians were upset by Poland. The remaining top NBA superstar is defensive specialist Rudy Gobert although they were also nearly upset by the Italians. 

I think I'll take a pass in the semifinals. The Germans are a slight favorite due to the momentum they are right now but I am not counting out the more experienced Spanish team. France is expected to win over Poland but the spreads are too unpredictable. France might win but maybe it will be another close one since all its victories after the group stage all went to overtime which is a little scary.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 15, 2022, 03:21:01 PM
Wow! I'm kind of speechless to this year's EuroBasket. Great games and full of surprises. Nikola Jokic and the Serbian's were my top favorite to win this year's tournament but they lost in the round of 16. And in the quarterfinals, I think 3 out of 4 were full of surprises. I forgot if Spain was the favorite to win over Finland. But 2 of the remaining 3 NBA superstars exited too as Giannis and the Greeks were dropped by the sharp-shooting Germans while Luka and the Slovenians were upset by Poland. The remaining top NBA superstar is defensive specialist Rudy Gobert although they were also nearly upset by the Italians.  

I think I'll take a pass in the semifinals. The Germans are a slight favorite due to the momentum they are right now but I am not counting out the more experienced Spanish team. France is expected to win over Poland but the spreads are too unpredictable. France might win but maybe it will be another close one since all its victories after the group stage all went to overtime which is a little scary.
Same. All my favorites are gone and most of what is left are the teams that I missed watching their games.
So now, I am having difficulty with where I would put my bet in.  :D
I mean just look at this.
https://i.imgur.com/6IefY7C.png
The tempting bet for Poland. 11.50.
I may take it, I love underdogs making an upset. They are up against France so it's going to be a rough path to win it, especially with France record of going back even if they are down by a lot.
Poland is also at +10 vs France which I think can be covered. @1.69


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: xzone on September 15, 2022, 05:29:34 PM
The luckiest team of this year, France, being lucky in the last 2 matches helped them to win the match. They won the match against both Türkiye and Italy in the last seconds, and now they are the favorite team to become champions.
We're seeing surprising results, I never thought Poland would win the match. They managed to be the surprise team in this tournament, but I don't think they can win the next match :)


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: dwyane36 on September 15, 2022, 08:23:30 PM
We're seeing surprising results, I never thought Poland would win the match. They managed to be the surprise team in this tournament, but I don't think they can win the next match :)

Poland beat Slovenia by only 3 points, and I would just call it luck. However, this result was indeed a surprise to everyone, and it is worth giving them credit because they were able to find a way to stop Luka. It is obvious that Luka's unimpressive performance was one of the main factors in Slovenia's defeat in this match. As for the upcoming match against France, I also think Poland is unlikely to be lucky again.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 16, 2022, 02:19:42 AM
Wow! I'm kind of speechless to this year's EuroBasket. Great games and full of surprises. Nikola Jokic and the Serbian's were my top favorite to win this year's tournament but they lost in the round of 16. And in the quarterfinals, I think 3 out of 4 were full of surprises. I forgot if Spain was the favorite to win over Finland. But 2 of the remaining 3 NBA superstars exited too as Giannis and the Greeks were dropped by the sharp-shooting Germans while Luka and the Slovenians were upset by Poland. The remaining top NBA superstar is defensive specialist Rudy Gobert although they were also nearly upset by the Italians.  

I think I'll take a pass in the semifinals. The Germans are a slight favorite due to the momentum they are right now but I am not counting out the more experienced Spanish team. France is expected to win over Poland but the spreads are too unpredictable. France might win but maybe it will be another close one since all its victories after the group stage all went to overtime which is a little scary.
Same. All my favorites are gone and most of what is left are the teams that I missed watching their games.
So now, I am having difficulty with where I would put my bet in.  :D
I mean just look at this.
https://i.imgur.com/6IefY7C.png
The tempting bet for Poland. 11.50.
I may take it, I love underdogs making an upset. They are up against France so it's going to be a rough path to win it, especially with France record of going back even if they are down by a lot.
Poland is also at +10 vs France which I think can be covered. @1.69

They say lightning cannot strike twice. So Poland's luck might be over anytime soon. :D

Good luck with your bet mate. If France's trend will continue then they may win but close which can be covered by that +10 spreads.  But I'm taking a pass in the meantime. I'd rather focus my bets on DOTA 2 where I got good wins so far.

I will be back in the finals. If France will win over Poland then I will take a bet on them. Spain is not the same without a Gasol and Germany's surprising feats and success might not be enough against the more experienced French team.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 16, 2022, 09:34:59 AM
So, today we have both semifinals of Eurobasket. First game between Poland and France. Personally, I don't believe that Poland can make another surprise. France is very solid team with deep squad and unlike Slovenia, they don't depends on one player performance. Also, they have so much luck this tournament. But I expect that Poland will keep close most part of the game.
Germany - Spain. Hosts have great chance to reach final. Spain is understimated again, like usual this tournament. I refrain from predictions on this game.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Pulsar77 on September 16, 2022, 10:02:34 AM
It is going to be a quite interesting finale this time. As you've already said we are going to see a different team reaching the championship.

Poland are the most attracting team for me these days. They literally eliminated the biggest favourite which was Slovenia after Serbia were eliminated by Italy. The 2nd and 3rd quarters of the Slovenia - Poland match were really interesting and it was like Slovenia were coming back. Things would have been easier for them if Doncic played like he was in NBA. France had a big difficulty against Italy as they barely got past them after OT. They are really unreliable these days as they are hardly eliminating their opponents for two rounds. Poland have a great opportunity to make another surprise in my opinion but it'll be really difficult just as it was against Slovenia.

When it comes to the Germany - Spain matchup, I can say that Germans are one step ahead. Their shooters are in a great form recently. This was a huge help for eliminating Greece in the previous round. Even Giannis' high effort wasn't enough to prevent a loss by a 11-point gap. As a result I think of betting on Poland @4.10 and Germany @1.56 (OT included for both). 6.40 total odd is very tempting honestly.  ;D


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 16, 2022, 10:52:48 AM
It is going to be a quite interesting finale this time. As you've already said we are going to see a different team reaching the championship.

Poland are the most attracting team for me these days. They literally eliminated the biggest favourite which was Slovenia after Serbia were eliminated by Italy. The 2nd and 3rd quarters of the Slovenia - Poland match were really interesting and it was like Slovenia were coming back. Things would have been easier for them if Doncic played like he was in NBA. France had a big difficulty against Italy as they barely got past them after OT. They are really unreliable these days as they are hardly eliminating their opponents for two rounds. Poland have a great opportunity to make another surprise in my opinion but it'll be really difficult just as it was against Slovenia.

When it comes to the Germany - Spain matchup, I can say that Germans are one step ahead. Their shooters are in a great form recently. This was a huge help for eliminating Greece in the previous round. Even Giannis' high effort wasn't enough to prevent a loss by a 11-point gap. As a result I think of betting on Poland @4.10 and Germany @1.56 (OT included for both). 6.40 total odd is very tempting honestly.  ;D
Yes, it's tempting but the risk is higher too when you think about Poland being the underdogs and they are up against France who is not going to give it up that easy even if Poland is having a great night.
I think my +10 will hit but I am doubting the win. It's a good bet though if you are the high-risk taker type of a gambler.
Just for information, if Poland won by 11+ the profits are @14.94. In case it happens we know how much it is.

Luckily, yesterday I input a bet for Over 157.5 total score on Poland vs France. Now it changed to 158.5 with the same winning amount.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: ingiltere on September 16, 2022, 06:18:45 PM
France is the first finalist, it wasn't surprising after they eliminated Türkiye and Italy. They were one of the low tier favorites and they are lucky that other big favorites got eliminated. Germany plays really good in this tournament. Spain also has a slight chance but I expect Germany - France final. It will be pretty interesting when we think about their national backgrounds. There is a good competition between them.
Before the tournament start we expected a different final, there is no Eastern Europe team in the final. No Dončić or Jokić. It has more European vibe though, no big NBA stars but Euroleague stars here. Just look at what Yabusele did. Fournier and Gobert's addition to the game was also important.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: husdemba on September 16, 2022, 06:30:47 PM
For Poland, the fairy tale is over. There were a lot of surprises in this tournament. France deserved the final with a little luck and a lot of effort. Now there is the Germany-Spain match and the other finalist will be determined.
Germany is showing great team play. Spain is a school of basketball. I am waiting for the Germany-France final with the support of the audience. May the best team win  :)


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: dwyane36 on September 16, 2022, 08:22:18 PM
France is the first finalist, it wasn't surprising after they eliminated Türkiye and Italy. They were one of the low tier favorites and they are lucky that other big favorites got eliminated. Germany plays really good in this tournament. Spain also has a slight chance but I expect Germany - France final. It will be pretty interesting when we think about their national backgrounds. There is a good competition between them.
Before the tournament start we expected a different final, there is no Eastern Europe team in the final. No Dončić or Jokić. It has more European vibe though, no big NBA stars but Euroleague stars here. Just look at what Yabusele did. Fournier and Gobert's addition to the game was also important.

Yeah, France won Poland by 41 points and showed they deserve to be in the final of EuroBasket. As for the other semifinal match, there is a very close game. Germany was leading at the beginning of the 4th quarter, but it looks like Spain did not give up and took the lead 5 minutes before the end of the game. As a result, Spain won Germany by 5 points.
p.s.
So France and Spain will meet each other in the final.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 16, 2022, 09:42:09 PM
Spain - Germany, what a great game, both teams were worth to reach final. But Sergio Scariolo is probably best coach in history of international basketball. Before tournament Spain were ranked somewhere 6-8th in power rankings. But Scariolo with this team without much talent reached another final. Today it looked that Germany took initiative few times, but Spain always were able to respond them
France - Poland, not much waht to say about this game, but win by 41 point in semifinal is a bit too much. But it was difficult to expect that team like Poland can overperform against elite opponents two games in 3 days.
Spain - France final, repeat of Eurobasket 2011 final, two classic European powerhouses. I don't really know what team I will support, probably I'll just enjoy final as neutral spectator.

For Poland, the fairy tale is over.
Not over yet, they will play for bronze medals. But even if they will lose against Germany, getting into Top 4 is achievement that nobody didn't expected from them


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Joca97 on September 16, 2022, 09:46:51 PM
For Poland, the fairy tale is over. There were a lot of surprises in this tournament. France deserved the final with a little luck and a lot of effort. Now there is the Germany-Spain match and the other finalist will be determined.
Germany is showing great team play. Spain is a school of basketball. I am waiting for the Germany-France final with the support of the audience. May the best team win  :)

France destroyed Poland today with 41 points difference in the semi-final and that is just insane. Poland just shoted bricks at the board and just couldnt hit anything. I still cannot believe they knocked out Slovakia and today just got destroyed


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Yogee on September 16, 2022, 10:59:54 PM
Odds at over 2.5 seems pretty decent to me so I'm taking Spain for the Finals. They didn't make a lot of buzz or noise unlike those countries with superstars but I think they are the most resilient as a team in this tournament. I think they can handle the Gobert tower with good ball movement.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: rhomelmabini on September 17, 2022, 12:23:53 AM
Odds at over 2.5 seems pretty decent to me so I'm taking Spain for the Finals. They didn't make a lot of buzz or noise unlike those countries with superstars but I think they are the most resilient as a team in this tournament. I think they can handle the Gobert tower with good ball movement.
But the offensive end on France roster was fairly distributed as well, they're good on ball movements too. For me, I think France with healthy Yabusele, Gobert, and Fournier will be a difficult feat for Spain's national team to win this Final. They are a threat both on the defensive and offensive stuff, the recent win they have with Poland with that much deficit is something to be honest.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 17, 2022, 03:43:50 AM
I stopped watching France vs Poland game after the 3rd quarter, it's too obvious where it is going.
They cannot find a good offense and the defense of France is too much for them, they were suffocated. A.J. Slaughter cannot get a window to shoot, not even a peek at the rim. He did great 3/3 outside shots in the first quarter but that's it, he is scoreless after that.
France soon realized Poland needed him to apply their plays so they pressured him to the extent that he won't even get a clean pass.

I lost both my bets. Will try to win the last 2 games.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: xzone on September 17, 2022, 08:49:52 AM
It's time for the final match. Both teams have not played very well this year, to be honest I don't know if I would have mentioned the names of these two teams if I had been asked before the tournament which teams would play in the final.
At the moment, I see the chances of both teams as equal, if this match goes with a close score until the last minutes, France may have a better chance of winning. In this tournament, they managed to win the match 2 times in the last minutes :)


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: bisdak40 on September 17, 2022, 09:17:00 AM
I stopped watching France vs Poland game after the 3rd quarter, it's too obvious where it is going.
They cannot find a good offense and the defense of France is too much for them, they were suffocated. A.J. Slaughter cannot get a window to shoot, not even a peek at the rim. He did great 3/3 outside shots in the first quarter but that's it, he is scoreless after that.
France soon realized Poland needed him to apply their plays so they pressured him to the extent that he won't even get a clean pass.

Lost my bet on Poland too, i thought that it would be a close game as that was a semi-final game but like you said the defense of France was too much for the Polish team and that ended their cinderella run.

I lost both my bets. Will try to win the last 2 games.

Who's your pick on France vs Spain mate? I'm more inclined to bet for France as their defense is more solid but this FIBA Euro Cup is very unpredictable so I may tail you on your pick hehe. I'm yet to win on this Euro Cup, lost my 3 bets already.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on September 17, 2022, 10:14:14 AM
I really didn't expect such poor performance from Poland. In the end, they defeated one of the favourites in the previous round by 90-87. Slovenia are a better team than France in the end so I was expecting another competitive game between Poland and France. But France dominated all quarters and won by an absurd score like 95-54. There was no player who got 10+ points at Poland. I wonder what was the reason behind their playing this much ineffective after fighting with everything they had against Slovenia. Every player at France scored points by the way which was like a dream for them. Yabusele was the most scorer with 22 points.

The final game is on Sunday and France are favoured by a 1.62 odd. However their job isn't going to be easy against Spain. Both of these teams were on the brink of being eliminated before. For example Spain also managed to eliminate Lithuania by OT. I expect a very close game here and we might see an OT as well. It has an odd like 8.60 which might be worth trying with some money. When it comes to the winner, I expect France to be the champions.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 17, 2022, 10:35:04 AM
Who's your pick on France vs Spain mate? I'm more inclined to bet for France as their defense is more solid but this FIBA Euro Cup is very unpredictable so I may tail you on your pick hehe. I'm yet to win on this Euro Cup, lost my 3 bets already.
You gave me an idea here actually.  :D
I may go for France too and the spreads were not that bad. -2.5 for France with 1.79 profits if hit. You could stretch it at -4.5 to receive 2.06 which I think can be covered as long as they play that better like what they did with Poland.

Germany vs Poland. It's obvious who will win, it's just a matter of how much handicap can be covered.
Right now I do see -11.5 but I may wait before the game starts if ever there will be changes.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: casperBGD on September 17, 2022, 06:35:37 PM
interesting tournament is coming to an end, and France vs Spain will decide European champion
looking plays so far, I would go with Spain, France has better players, but Spain does resemble a better team IMO

Germany should win over Poland, that somehow reached final stage, but they should not be able to get medal

not sure why there is no placement matches? for places below fourth


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Distraction on September 17, 2022, 08:11:58 PM
interesting tournament is coming to an end, and France vs Spain will decide European champion
looking plays so far, I would go with Spain, France has better players, but Spain does resemble a better team IMO

Germany should win over Poland, that somehow reached final stage, but they should not be able to get medal

not sure why there is no placement matches? for places below fourth

Actually there was a system like this until the Eurobasket 2013. There were placement matches for the 5th and 7th places as well. But they have restricted this system to the 3rd place the least since the Eurobasket 2015. Maybe the reason might be that there wasn't much interest for the 5th and 7th placement matches. In the end people are more curious about the places close to the 1st.

After watching Poland this much weak against France it made me also think like Germany could tear them apart as well. Germany have great sharp-shooters that can cause Poland to give up on their hopes earlier in the match. But their odd is 1.10 so it's not worth placing a bet on. I'd rather try my luck by betting on Poland @7.00.  :D


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: dwyane36 on September 17, 2022, 08:42:51 PM
I really didn't expect such poor performance from Poland. In the end, they defeated one of the favourites in the previous round by 90-87. Slovenia are a better team than France in the end so I was expecting another competitive game between Poland and France. But France dominated all quarters and won by an absurd score like 95-54. There was no player who got 10+ points at Poland. I wonder what was the reason behind their playing this much ineffective after fighting with everything they had against Slovenia. Every player at France scored points by the way which was like a dream for them. Yabusele was the most scorer with 22 points.

The final game is on Sunday and France are favoured by a 1.62 odd. However their job isn't going to be easy against Spain. Both of these teams were on the brink of being eliminated before. For example Spain also managed to eliminate Lithuania by OT. I expect a very close game here and we might see an OT as well. It has an odd like 8.60 which might be worth trying with some money. When it comes to the winner, I expect France to be the champions.

If you check the statistics of that match, you'll see that Poland had a poor field goal percentage while France had 62.1%. So I guess one of the main reasons for Poland's poor performance was that France was able to defend well throughout the match. As for the final of EuroBasket, I also expect it will be another close game, and I wouldn't underestimate Spain.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Joca97 on September 17, 2022, 08:48:08 PM
interesting tournament is coming to an end, and France vs Spain will decide European champion
looking plays so far, I would go with Spain, France has better players, but Spain does resemble a better team IMO

Germany should win over Poland, that somehow reached final stage, but they should not be able to get medal

not sure why there is no placement matches? for places below fourth

Didnt expect any of these team to be in the final maybe in the semi finals. Slovakia and Serbia that were the main favorites got knocked out early so this opened the places to an easy final for these two teams. It will be a really close final but i think France will win it


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 17, 2022, 11:18:04 PM
Today is big day, final of Eurobasket 2022 between France and Spain. If France were one of favorites before tournament, maybe not the main one, it was difficult to expect that Spain will reach final. I don't support any of these teams, I'm going to enjoy final as neutral spectator, but I think that both teams deserved to win trophy.
In Bronze medal game I don't see much chances for Poland, with all respect. Despite loss in semifinal, Germany should be extremely motivated, it's chance for them to win first medal since 2005 and they have chance to do it at home soil.

I really didn't expect such poor performance from Poland. In the end, they defeated one of the favourites in the previous round by 90-87. Slovenia are a better team than France in the end so I was expecting another competitive game between Poland and France. But France dominated all quarters and won by an absurd score like 95-54. There was no player who got 10+ points at Poland. I wonder what was the reason behind their playing this much ineffective after fighting with everything they had against Slovenia. Every player at France scored points by the way which was like a dream for them. Yabusele was the most scorer with 22 points.
Nothing surprising about Poland. Maybe 41 points is a bit too big loss, but it was easy to expect that they will lose by at least 20 points. Look at their squad, they don't have any NBA and Euroleague players, it's difficult to expect that they will overperfrom two games in a row against elite teams. It seemed like Slovenia understimated Poland in beginning and also Poland players probably weren't able to recover full after this game.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 18, 2022, 05:43:43 AM
Today is big day, final of Eurobasket 2022 between France and Spain. If France were one of favorites before tournament, maybe not the main one, it was difficult to expect that Spain will reach final. I don't support any of these teams, I'm going to enjoy final as neutral spectator, but I think that both teams deserved to win trophy.
I am not a fan of both teams either, but I would like to bet for France here as I have seen their motivation after defeating Poland at a huge number.
They didn't even need to defend too well when the lead was unreachable and yet they still did to prove how strong their team is.
Let's see what the Hernangomez brothers can bring to stop France. Both players are good at attacking the paint but with a tower like Gobert inside it will be difficult to get a good shot.

In Bronze medal game I don't see much chances for Poland, with all respect. Despite loss in semifinal, Germany should be extremely motivated, it's chance for them to win first medal since 2005 and they have chance to do it at home soil.
This sure will be for Germany, the only strategy is to put a lot of pressure on Poland's guards and they will start to break. Not that I underestimate them but that's what France did and it stopped them from scoring.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Pulsar77 on September 18, 2022, 11:13:29 AM
Yes, it's tempting but the risk is higher too when you think about Poland being the underdogs and they are up against France who is not going to give it up that easy even if Poland is having a great night.
I think my +10 will hit but I am doubting the win. It's a good bet though if you are the high-risk taker type of a gambler.
Just for information, if Poland won by 11+ the profits are @14.94. In case it happens we know how much it is.

Luckily, yesterday I input a bet for Over 157.5 total score on Poland vs France. Now it changed to 158.5 with the same winning amount.


Sometimes I like to give risky choices a chance. Poland win seemed somehow logical to go for it. But my bet failed really hard.  ;D  I'm not regretful though because their very big win against Slovenia helped me believe in them to make another surprise here. Of course their chance wasn't very much against a team full of talented players. France had really solid NBA players like Gobert and Fournier also in the end.

https://i.postimg.cc/GthD2cq5/germany-poland.png (https://postimages.org/)

Now the Germany - Poland match for the 3rd place has odds like these. It looks like I won't be able to hold myself back from betting on Poland one last time.  ;D  The 7.00 odd is very tempting and I wouldn't have much to lose unless I bet on with a lot of money in the end. I'm aware of how great shooters Germany have but maybe they would surprise us in this one after losing their title chance.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: püsür on September 18, 2022, 12:00:45 PM
^Finland exhausted their energy in the first half. They had a good lead until Spain started doing a suffocating defense in the 2nd half.
Rudy Fernandez. Damn old man's energy was in the spotlight from a suicidal ball save to avoid a turnover and highlight steals that changed the pace of the game in favor of Spain.
Then the Hail Mary 3-point shot put the last nail in the coffin.
Did I hear it right, this will be his last season in Eurobasket.
I cannot get over this match. First half was crazy as Finland scored 52 points against Spain and absolutely played marvellously. I really liked their offensive style and they shot really good from the three point line. But I agree with your point that they exhausted their energy and also Spain really started to play good in the second half. Spain's defense worked quite good and when Finland started to shoot bad, it was inevitable that Spain would win the game. Also Willy Hernangomez dunked like 5-6 times which was just devastated for Finland.

I actually paid a subscription service for this Eurobasket and I am very satisfied with my choice. It has been a great tournament. We have seen a lot of surprises. I was expecting the 3 big NBA superstars - Giannis, Doncic and Jokic- to advance more in the tournament but the beauty of basketball showed us that most of the time, being a good team is better than having superstars. Even though we have seen amazing performances by these NBA players, it was not enough. For example, Germany defended Giannis with 5 players at times and even though Giannis had a good statistics at that game, it wasn't enough for a win.

I am at loss of who is favourite in the final game. Both teams have shown great results so far. But France seems like a more all-round team and more experienced. Although, Spain is Spain and it will not be a surprise if they win. I am betting on France though.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 18, 2022, 08:46:16 PM
Spain is Kings of Europe again. Spain dominated game from first minutes till the end, at one point leading by more than 20 points. France made comeback in end of 2nd half - beginning of 3rd, but Spain still managed to control game. Juancho Hernangomez, aka Bo Cruz is MVP of final with 27 points and incredible 7 of 9 3pointers made (77% accuracy). His brother Willy becomes MVP of tournament.
Referees today didn't decided winners, but they worked terrible today and in whole tournament. That ghost foul against Brown when nobody didn't touched him and he simply slipped shows level of referees in a nutshell.
3rd place game was not very exciting. Germany controlled game as expected, though respect for Poland for making comeback and keeping close till the end.First Germany medal since 2005 and after Nowitzki era. Now they oficially returned to basketball elite.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: Yogee on September 18, 2022, 10:28:45 PM
Odds at over 2.5 seems pretty decent to me so I'm taking Spain for the Finals. They didn't make a lot of buzz or noise unlike those countries with superstars but I think they are the most resilient as a team in this tournament. I think they can handle the Gobert tower with good ball movement.
But the offensive end on France roster was fairly distributed as well, they're good on ball movements too. For me, I think France with healthy Yabusele, Gobert, and Fournier will be a difficult feat for Spain's national team to win this Final. They are a threat both on the defensive and offensive stuff,
Well Spain had the better offense in the first half and never took their foot off the pedal.

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.... the recent win they have with Poland with that much deficit is something to be honest.
I didn't really expect Poland to win that game after their comeback against Slovenia so I'm not really that impressed how France won.

There are many of us who thought they were really lucky in their earlier games that's another why I believed Spain will dominate them in the Finals.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 19, 2022, 02:27:57 AM
Now the Germany - Poland match for the 3rd place has odds like these. It looks like I won't be able to hold myself back from betting on Poland one last time.  ;D  The 7.00 odd is very tempting and I wouldn't have much to lose unless I bet on with a lot of money in the end. I'm aware of how great shooters Germany have but maybe they would surprise us in this one after losing their title chance.
They got close but Dennis Schroder exploded in the last quarter.
Luckily, I caught some good bets in total score and I didn't even notice I already took one early and then another after the first quarter of the game of Germany vs Poland when I saw how low the score is.
https://i.imgur.com/wibpqa9.png
I had a hard time deciding what team to bet for because the spreads were -12.5 for Germany. Shockingly, it did cover so for those who took it, congratulations.
Referees today didn't decided winners, but they worked terrible today and in whole tournament. That ghost foul against Brown when nobody didn't touched him and he simply slipped shows level of referees in a nutshell.
There are actually a lot of questionable calls that I saw and I think referees and even their officials and Fiba management should take a look at it.
Making the league better is the purpose for doing so and it could clear some questions the coaches have. Check if the call was a bit biased or if it was just an honest mistake.
Especially at the "unsportsmanlike" call, where sometimes players are getting away with it, making it look like they are playing the ball.

Congratulations to Spain.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: püsür on September 19, 2022, 06:09:45 AM
Spain is Kings of Europe again. Spain dominated game from first minutes till the end, at one point leading by more than 20 points. France made comeback in end of 2nd half - beginning of 3rd, but Spain still managed to control game. Juancho Hernangomez, aka Bo Cruz is MVP of final with 27 points and incredible 7 of 9 3pointers made (77% accuracy). His brother Willy becomes MVP of tournament.
Referees today didn't decided winners, but they worked terrible today and in whole tournament. That ghost foul against Brown when nobody didn't touched him and he simply slipped shows level of referees in a nutshell.
3rd place game was not very exciting. Germany controlled game as expected, though respect for Poland for making comeback and keeping close till the end.First Germany medal since 2005 and after Nowitzki era. Now they oficially returned to basketball elite.
Don't forget the 24 seconds violation call around 32 - 33 minute of the game where Spain coach got a technical foul also. It was so obvious that Spain's ball touched the rim and they got the rebound, refs thought it didn't touch the rim. Spain was too much ahead and was dominating so it didn't matter too much but if France could come back in those moments, it would be an important mistake that can affect the game. The refs in this tournament was something else. We don't see this many mistakes in Euroleague.

Despite almost all of the expectations, Spain managed to get the cup. I think it is an especially big accomplishment. Hernangomez brothers did an amazing job. Congratulations to Spain for yet another championship. Their golden generation is retired and they are building a new generation so one might think that they need time. But no, they are winning again. Amazing.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LGD2Business on September 19, 2022, 12:38:45 PM
For perhaps the first time in a long time, Spain has managed to win a tournament where they were not a heavy favourite. Coming here as an underdog and becoming a champion is truly a great achievement. We can say that the movie Hustle has come true. Juancho Hernangomez played the match of his life. Again with the brothers, Spain was victorious. The Gasols are gone, the Hernangomezs are here.
The final match was exciting, but I can't say the same about the competition. Spain always took the lead. France reduced the difference to 3 points, but after the timeout, Spain opened the lead again. They managed to control the entire match. Congratulations to Spain for this well-deserved win. They were the best playing team of the tournament.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: inthelongrun on September 19, 2022, 02:22:14 PM
This year's Euro basket was full of surprises from start to finish. Luckily I was able to pick my bets carefully and was able to avoid most of the games, especially the upsets. In the end, nobody from the favorite countries like Serbia, Slovenia, Greece, and France became the champion.

Kudos to the French team for achieving second place. I really thought they were done with winning close games but showing the Poles how really dominant they are but they came up short against the Spaniards.

Congratulations to Spain for becoming the new champion. It was a very tough journey as an underdog. Well deserved win.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 20, 2022, 11:59:21 AM
So I have some time to check all the results of my bets after the Eurobasket and I want to share them with you guys.
It's arranged as:
Game - My bet - End Score - Result
Code:
Spain vs France - France -2.45 88-76 - Loss
Spain vs France - Over 157.5 - 88-76 Win

Germany vs Poland Under 162.5 - 82-69 Win
Germany vs Poland Under 168.5 (live bet) - 82-69 Win

Poland vs France - Poland +10 - 54-95 Loss
Poland vs France Over 157.5 54-95 Loss

France vs Italy - Italy ML (live) 93-85 Loss
France vs Italy - France -3.5 93-85 Win

Germany vs Greece - Greece -5.5 107-96 Loss
Spain vs Finland - Finland +5.5 100-90 Loss
Serbia vs Italy Over 160.5 - 86-94 Win
Finland vs Croatia - Croatia -3.5 94-86 Loss
Ukraine vs Poland - Ukraine -2.5 86-94 Loss

Germany vs Montenegro - Montenegro +10 85-79 Win
Germany vs Montenegro Over 156 - 85-79 Win

Slovenia vs Belgium Over 169 - 88-72 Loss
Turkey vs France - France -6.5 86-87 Loss
Czech Republic vs Israel - Czech -3 88-76 Win
Croatia vs Ukraine - Croatia -4 90-85 Win
Lithuania vs B&H - Lithuania -7 87-70 Win
Greece vs Ukraine - Greece -13.5 99-79 Win
Serbia vs Finland - Serbia -11.5 100-70 - Win
Slovenia vs B&H - Under 178.5 - 93-97 - Loss
Lithuania vs Germany - Lithuania ML - 107-109 Loss
Greece vs Italy - Greece -6 85-81 Loss
Lithuania vs France - Lithuania ML 73-77 Loss
Finland vs Poland - Finland ML - 89-59 Win
Croatia vs Greece - Greece -6.5 85-89 Loss
Slovenia vs Lithuania - Slovenia -2.5 92-85 Win

14 wins and 15 losses. It's not bad. I didn't even feel a loss in my budget for this league. Actually, there may be little profit because of the high odds given to underdogs.
The experience though will be my background for the next league. I think that was the important part.
It sure was something entertaining and I will be looking forward to seeing more talented players.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: bisdak40 on September 20, 2022, 12:35:13 PM
So I have some time to check all the results of my bets after the Eurobasket and I want to share them with you guys.
It's arranged as:
Game - My bet - End Score - Result
~snip~
14 wins and 15 losses. It's not bad. I didn't even feel a loss in my budget for this league. Actually, there may be little profit because of the high odds given to underdogs.
The experience though will be my background for the next league. I think that was the important part.
It sure was something entertaining and I will be looking forward to seeing more talented players.

Not bad at all, at least you are on the profit side unlike me who never won on my four bets  :-[.

I should have trusted Bo Cruz and the rest of Spain, could have won big as they are the underdog most of the time, especially on the tail end of the league.

Yup, the experience is priceless as you already knew whom to beat next year or the year after but we should also be careful as this might work against us, you know what I meant. Serbia for sure will bounce back as well as Greece and Spain might be eliminated early in the tournament and we are betting heavily on them as that time they will be the favorite most of the time as they are the Euro FIBA '22 champion.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: dwyane36 on September 20, 2022, 11:20:08 PM
For perhaps the first time in a long time, Spain has managed to win a tournament where they were not a heavy favourite. Coming here as an underdog and becoming a champion is truly a great achievement. We can say that the movie Hustle has come true. Juancho Hernangomez played the match of his life. Again with the brothers, Spain was victorious. The Gasols are gone, the Hernangomezs are here.
The final match was exciting, but I can't say the same about the competition. Spain always took the lead. France reduced the difference to 3 points, but after the timeout, Spain opened the lead again. They managed to control the entire match. Congratulations to Spain for this well-deserved win. They were the best playing team of the tournament.

You're right Spain deserved this win, and it's really impressive that they were able to win gold medals without the Gasol brothers. As for the final match itself, I'm not particularly impressed with France's performance, especially Gobert's. It seems to me that Gobert could have had a significant impact on the outcome of the final match. However, that didn't happen as Gobert only scored 6 points and grabbed 6 rebounds even though he played almost 30 minutes.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: LTU_btc on September 21, 2022, 07:56:22 PM
To summarize everything, it was great 3 weeks of basketball. Many upsets, amazing individual performances of superstars. Unfortunately, things got ruined be terrible mistakes of referees and poor my country performance.
If you want to re-live some emotions, I suggest to watch this recap:
https://youtu.be/ciglN6E3Mv8
Next international tournament is World Cup 2023 in Japan, Indonesia and Philippines. And clubs basketball already starts in upcoming weeks.
14 wins and 15 losses. It's not bad. I didn't even feel a loss in my budget for this league. Actually, there may be little profit because of the high odds given to underdogs.

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. It would be interesting to check my stats, but I'm a bit lazy to dig in my bets history :D.


Title: Re: FIBA EuroBasket 2022
Post by: danherbias07 on September 22, 2022, 03:13:29 AM
To summarize everything, it was great 3 weeks of basketball. Many upsets, amazing individual performances of superstars. Unfortunately, things got ruined be terrible mistakes of referees and poor my country performance.
If you want to re-live some emotions, I suggest to watch this recap:
https://youtu.be/ciglN6E3Mv8
Wow, that's the faster way to watch the Eurobasket, and even the streamer talking in the video noticed the questionable calls made by the referees.
Not that it's difficult to notice but this means many viewers now are also knowledgeable about the rules of basketball which I think is good.
This will push the officials to do their job better next time. They now know many eyes are also looking at them so every whistle should be right.

Lots of behind the scene that we didn't see. Coaches' passion for the game. Incredible.

Next international tournament is World Cup 2023 in Japan, Indonesia and Philippines. And clubs basketball already starts in upcoming weeks.
August 25. Will definitely watch these games too and make some bets of course.  :D