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Title: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: RapTarX on August 30, 2022, 10:30:54 PM
I was surprised to see one of the threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.msg54287738#msg54287738) from Royse777 has been changed as Anonymous creator. I'm more than sure the thread was created by Royse777 but now it's showing Anonymous. May I know how it was done? I believe Royse777 don't have access to change this username. Only theymos may have this rights. Why would theymos change either?

Sorry Royse777, I couldn’t put you apart from this. I had to publicly posted your name here.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on August 30, 2022, 10:59:30 PM
Obviously only the admins have the ability to do that.

There could have been a more than satisfactory reason as to why admin changed it to anonymous. Perhaps it was a sensitive issue but we may never know. I think the best thing you should have done was to ask him about this via PM.

He probably wanted the OP to be anonymous in that post and let it slide off quietly and now you just exposed everything here   :-X


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: sheenshane on August 30, 2022, 11:46:55 PM
Why would theymos change either?
Whatever it is, only theymos know the reason.

But this comes up in my mind and guessing that it was made by request of @Royse777 that related to Project Covid-19, this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246208.0) was changed to Anonymous OP too which I'm sure they are the same original OP.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: theymos on August 31, 2022, 01:57:12 AM
Royse777 requested that the thread be disassociated from his account, and although there is/was controversy surrounding Royse777, I didn't see any harm in it because it'd be blatantly obvious who created the topic for anyone who did a couple minutes of looking.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: Crypt0S0ul on September 01, 2022, 06:05:08 AM
now you just exposed everything here   :-X

I guess most of the active members already know who created that thread. Also, there are some replies where other people mentioned Royse777's name. There are four mentions in a row on the first page of the thread;

@Royse777 Astounding initiative you have taken by yourself.
Royse777 has asked me to escrow funds for the project,
Royse, I think it is time to go public.
Hi, I received Royse777's message about this topic,

So, It's not a secret. So, I don't see any harm in creating this either since OP was curious about it. I noticed the thread creator became anonymous a few days ago. But I didn't bother them because I was guessing that maybe they requested admin to do this.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: Pmalek on September 01, 2022, 09:54:18 AM
He probably wanted the OP to be anonymous in that post and let it slide off quietly and now you just exposed everything here   :-X
He only exposed that the thread creator is now anonymous but not who created it. The only revelation for me is the anonymous nature of the thread now. Royse777's OP has been quoted multiple times, so there is no doubt about who the original author is. Besides, DarkStar_'s post shows that Royse777 asked him to escrow the project funds, etc., etc.   


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: KingsDen on September 01, 2022, 06:48:31 PM
He probably wanted the OP to be anonymous in that post and let it slide off quietly and now you just exposed everything here   :-X
He only exposed that the thread creator is now anonymous but not who created it. The only revelation for me is the anonymous nature of the thread now. Royse777's OP has been quoted multiple times, so there is no doubt about who the original author is. Besides, DarkStar_'s post shows that Royse777 asked him to escrow the project funds, etc., etc.   
To the forum members who know how things work here, turning the author to anonymous only shows the thread creator is now anonymous  but not who created it. But for foreign bodies for are alien to the forum, it won't be easy to detect the real author of the post. I believe it is because of external factors that Royse777 made the request to theymos and not bitcointalk internal issues. From legal view, the author of the topic is anonymous, and nothing about the post would be legally associated to the original creator.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: joker_josue on September 01, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Sorry Royse777, I couldn’t put you apart from this. I had to publicly posted your name here.

You can change the OP's author name, but the OP's situations don't change with that.
The fourth answer in the topic in question has a quote from the author:

One thing I noticed, this middle class people who do not have enough savings, never lived in the poverty level or below poverty level, never needed to ask for money because they had/have a decent job but now some of them are in such position that they do not have a job, did not get salary for last two months, their employer is not telling them about the future of their current job and all shit. These people are in deep trouble but these same group of people are too shy to ask financial help from others too. They will not eat for two days but is not going to ask money from you. I discovered it in person.
What you said here is 100% true. A few years back, when I was still in college, we were in the same situation when we had a financial crisis but was too shy to ask for help from friends and family members. We would skip a lunch or dinner for over 3 months until we were able to sell our property and settle the debts.

[...]


So everything is clear to everyone. Certainly for personal reasons the author of the OP together with the admin decided to change the author's description.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: nakamura12 on September 17, 2022, 12:29:27 PM
Only he knows the reason why he wanted his account to be disassociated from the thread but my guess is because he doesn't want to be related or involved in the donation thing especially he is the one who posted it and if situations (charity or something like that) like that turns out to be a scam even though your forum account is only an instrument to use to start or create the thread but still you will be blame for it and get red tagged then you lose people's trust. It's just my OPINION why it is anonymous even though you would know who started the thread as theymos said.

You can change the OP's author name, but the OP's situations don't change with that.
The fourth answer in the topic in question has a quote from the author:
When clicking on the link in the reply would also redirect to the original post which I just tried right now.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: Asiska02 on September 17, 2022, 01:20:09 PM
Now it's so obvious why the author of that specific post was changed to Anonymous and why the original author's name was changed. I'm always interested in how posts in this topic that are written anonymously rather than by their names are created. I occasionally believe that people simply visit the forum to write something by paying a price (much like paying for a service to be able to post) and then disappear after the message has been viewed and understood. I believe my curiosity has now been satisfied.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: OcTradism on September 17, 2022, 01:41:36 PM
Only he knows the reason why he wanted his account to be disassociated from the thread but my guess is because he doesn't want to be related or involved in the donation thing especially he is the one who posted it and if situations (charity or something like that) like that turns out to be a scam even though your forum account is only an instrument to use to start or create the thread but still you will be blame for it and get red tagged then you lose people's trust.
It can be the reason but who knows what is real reason of the request which was approved by theymos. Personally it is not a big issue.

The charity thread completes its mission, no scam, no thing suspicious. That thread serves the purposes why it was created.

If the reason behind the request is exactly like what you mentioned, I think it is for good and is not harmful.

Quote
It's just my OPINION why it is anonymous even though you would know who started the thread as theymos said.
It's easier to know by looking at quoted posts.

I think this thread should be locked as discussion is clear so far and reason of that request is unnecessary to be revealed. It's personal.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: JollyGood on September 19, 2022, 03:23:58 PM
Royse777 requested that the thread be disassociated from his account, and although there is/was controversy surrounding Royse777, I didn't see any harm in it because it'd be blatantly obvious who created the topic for anyone who did a couple minutes of looking.
Yes, therefore it sort of defeats the object of anybody wanting to anonymise a thread in the first place.

So, It's not a secret. So, I don't see any harm in creating this either since OP was curious about it.
Definitely is not a secret but having said we do not know the motives for Royse777 wanting to disassociate herself from that thread.. does anybody even care?

I think this thread should be locked as discussion is clear so far and reason of that request is unnecessary to be revealed. It's personal.
Agreed. the thread should be locked.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 23, 2022, 05:32:16 PM
does anybody even care?
Nobody but you do care.

having said we do not know the motives for Royse777 wanting to disassociate herself from that thread..
What malicious intend were you able to find from it?


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: joker_josue on September 23, 2022, 06:23:08 PM
Royse777 requested that the thread be disassociated from his account, and although there is/was controversy surrounding Royse777, I didn't see any harm in it because it'd be blatantly obvious who created the topic for anyone who did a couple minutes of looking.
Yes, therefore it sort of defeats the object of anybody wanting to anonymise a thread in the first place.

Knowing the involvement of the community in this forum, I think any experienced user knows that after posting, it will hardly be possible for this post to be anonymous again. The only solution is to delete it and even then someone will have a historical record.

Therefore, Royse777's motive was not to hide. But that, too, is indifferent to me.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: JollyGood on September 23, 2022, 07:58:20 PM
Well, there you have it  ;D

Royse777 requested that the thread be disassociated from his account, and although there is/was controversy surrounding Royse777, I didn't see any harm in it because it'd be blatantly obvious who created the topic for anyone who did a couple minutes of looking.
Yes, therefore it sort of defeats the object of anybody wanting to anonymise a thread in the first place.

Knowing the involvement of the community in this forum, I think any experienced user knows that after posting, it will hardly be possible for this post to be anonymous again. The only solution is to delete it and even then someone will have a historical record.

Therefore, Royse777's motive was not to hide. But that, too, is indifferent to me.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: OgNasty on September 23, 2022, 08:36:24 PM
does anybody even care?
Nobody but you do care.

having said we do not know the motives for Royse777 wanting to disassociate herself from that thread..
What malicious intend were you able to find from it?

If I were to guess, maybe you've done some research and had a change of heart regarding Covid and how it should be handled? 

or...

Maybe you got sick of people reaching out to you with PMs about how hard they have it and begging for money?

or...

Maybe you noticed some sort of fraud happening and wanted to stay out in front of it by disassociating yourself?

Who knows...  I am curious though.  Seems like you were getting a lot of merit for that, which motivates some people here to post so it's odd you'd want out now, especially considering everyone can still see who the OP was. 

Want to share your motivations?  I don't really care, but my curiosity will return if I see this thread again.   :D


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 23, 2022, 09:17:46 PM
Want to share your motivations?  I don't really care, but my curiosity will return if I see this thread again.   :D
Older members who seen me around or seeing me around for long time they obviously know what I am, that does not concern me.

A new member who is unknown about the forum, and does not know me (even it could be an unregistered visitor) they will obviously become a little off when they will see the recent bad name I earned. I did not want to let that happened so decided to remove myself from it.

Theymos left me two options. Removing it keeping the creator of the topic anonymous, replace anyone else as topic creator. I did not bother to contact anyone to request to be the OP not even any of the escrow, I was just not in my usual mental state. So I picked the first option.

Besides, I wanted to reduce my involvement which I do voluntarily for the forum. This place is an emotion for me. It does not effect me when a criticism against me is valid and does not cross the border line but when it cross the border then it effects my real life and people around me. I can not let it happen.

I hope OP and other who are genuinely interested to know the reason then you have it.
It was little off to see the topic created for it too. I did not want it to publicize at all.
OP could PM me instead since he knew it was me.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: joker_josue on September 23, 2022, 11:06:53 PM
I hope OP and other who are genuinely interested to know the reason then you have it.
It was little off to see the topic created for it too. I did not want it to publicize at all.
OP could PM me instead since he knew it was me.


It was unnecessary, in my opinion. I think we should all respect each other's options, opinions and position.
It was your option/choice, for the reasons you think is valid. That is enough. We have to respect!

It really was unnecessary to put pressure on a well-recognized member of the community and always accessible. Really, a simple PM would have avoided 90% of what was said in this thread.

I think this story of yours can serve as an example:
When a user requests anonymity and is granted, we must respect it even knowing who asked for that anonymity.


Royse777 go strong! The community remains with you, just as you are with the community.  ;)


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: Findingnemo on September 25, 2022, 07:58:11 AM
I hope OP and other who are genuinely interested to know the reason then you have it.
It was little off to see the topic created for it too. I did not want it to publicize at all.
OP could PM me instead since he knew it was me.


It was unnecessary, in my opinion. I think we should all respect each other's options, opinions and position.
It was your option/choice, for the reasons you think is valid. That is enough. We have to respect!

It really was unnecessary to put pressure on a well-recognized member of the community and always accessible. Really, a simple PM would have avoided 90% of what was said in this thread.

I think this story of yours can serve as an example:
When a user requests anonymity and is granted, we must respect it even knowing who asked for that anonymity.


Royse777 go strong! The community remains with you, just as you are with the community.  ;)

Or the user asked out of curiosity to know what is actually happened and asked this as public may serve the answer for everyone who had the same curiosity of what happened all of a sudden.

Its not a secret anymore but still for the privacy reasons the creator name hidden in the thread and that's it.


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: joker_josue on September 25, 2022, 08:40:16 AM
Or the user asked out of curiosity to know what is actually happened and asked this as public may serve the answer for everyone who had the same curiosity of what happened all of a sudden.

Its not a secret anymore but still for the privacy reasons the creator name hidden in the thread and that's it.


That's what MPs are for. If the person is curious and wants to get more details, they can respectfully question the user.
Royse777 is not such a distant and unknown user in the community that it is difficult to contact him.

But that's it, what's done, is done. It serves as an example for future cases.  ;)


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: Findingnemo on September 25, 2022, 01:23:23 PM
Or the user asked out of curiosity to know what is actually happened and asked this as public may serve the answer for everyone who had the same curiosity of what happened all of a sudden.

Its not a secret anymore but still for the privacy reasons the creator name hidden in the thread and that's it.


That's what MPs are for. If the person is curious and wants to get more details, they can respectfully question the user.
Royse777 is not such a distant and unknown user in the community that it is difficult to contact him.

But that's it, what's done, is done. It serves as an example for future cases.  ;)

I assume you're talking about PMs but imagine if 100s of users have the same question and bombarding the user's inbox it will be more annoying and replying everyone in personal is time consuming right. :D


Title: Re: How username turned into "Anonymous" in 2022?
Post by: joker_josue on September 26, 2022, 06:50:27 AM
I assume you're talking about PMs but imagine if 100s of users have the same question and bombarding the user's inbox it will be more annoying and replying everyone in personal is time consuming right. :D

That would already be the responsibility of the user.
If he gets so many requests, he might find it productive to create a topic, or choose to respond.

In turn, if the other users did not get a response, then yes, they could expose the situation, indicating that they tried to get a direct response from the person involved.