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Because no one except one person(as far as I tell) is able to move it up higher.  That only person who could move it up is actually on this forum and has proven to move it up over and over again. And he is willing to move the price up again. What will you do for such person if he is actually telling the truth and moves the price up as he says he will? The answer will determine whether he moves the price up to 30,000 —40,000 in two weeks.

Note that it takes alot of working hard with the mind to achieve this. If people could invest billions of dollars on AI and Super Computers to accurately predict things why not invest a little bit of that on human who can do it way better? It takes alot of hardwork for computers to make trillions of calculations to achieve the desired result. But a human who does it better with his mind isn't typically seen as someone who is doing lots of hardwork.


What will you do for a person who accurately moves and predicts the price Bitcoin? Let's encourage him to keep moving the price up

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You do not give up your ideas that you are some kind of special and exceptional person who has an influence on the price of Bitcoin, even though you have shown on several occasions that your promises are nothing but empty lies and speculations. Your fantasy that you will do something if others support you and asking for some kind of compensation for what you will allegedly do is more than ridiculous.

I remind you of your identical attempt to do the same thing that you are promising now, and that from then until today the price has not been more than $25 000. Your mind isn't capable of understanding how delusional you are, let alone competing with supercomputers and AI - what's next, threatening to hack Bitcoin if we don't do something for you?

archived (https://archive.ph/zPFYJ)

You seem to be so full of yourself, that I actually think you should start a cult. Like as if a person with that much power to move markets would be posting away on an online forum, and promoting a freakin Telegram group[1] lmao; not even competent enough for a basic website.

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[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396744.msg60008904#msg60008904

After bull market would be bear market, after bear market would be a significant bull market, that has been how bitcoin price hs been increasing in long term.

Bitcoin does not depend on anyone, it depends on people generally. You do not have to think much about the people that will hold, a time for all-time-high is coming again.

No one is responsible for moving the price of bitcoin up or down, it's purely based on offer and demand and since the inflation is hitting the world atm so it only makes sense that stocks and crypto are going down.

More accurately put — while some people/entities has more effect(bigger pockets vs smaller pockets) over the markets than others, it's a lot more accurate to say that it's everyone(collectively) that's responsible for bitcoin's rise and drop in price, rather than saying no one.

no one can lift the price of bitcoin to high and no one can drop the price of bitcoin because it all depends on demand or sometimes based on a 4 year cycle that has existed long ago, today's bear market is like previous history so no one can move it the price of bitcoin except for the satoshi itself if he is still around and playing with the bitcoins he owns  ;D

I think you are very right mate, if there really is someone who can do something about bitcoin, either by raising it higher and lowering it lower, you can be sure that person is a rich person. he does not need to be an analyst and sell trading programs just do it himself and no one will follow, so what he does can enrich himself. something that looks like a fairy tale who wants to be rich and cleverly performs magic to change the movement of bitcoin.
bitcoin moves up and down because of a well-available mechanism which depends on demand and what is certain is the halving period that occurs 4 years, besides that it seems to be just a prediction and just a fantasy that can't be proven.

Price is going down lately because the bond yields are starting to break out again to the upside. Stock indicies aren't near lows however many stocks are hitting 52 weeks low everyday.

Last time bond yields broke to the upside we kept hitting new lows. Then they peaked in June and we recovered a little bit. Many traders are looking what the bond traders are doing now which have a good knowledge of the market.

The next CPI print is key.

If you actually believe what you say then you do not need the help of anyone, just go long or short, use a huge leverage and then move the market as you want, sell and enjoy your profits, if you do this enough times then you will become rich in no time without the need to ask for anything from anyone else while also proving your point that you can do what you claim, so why bother with people like us when untold riches are within your grasp?

In the past, the most significant individuals in any community were the rain makers. The most influential individual in the cryptocurrency field should be someone who has the ability to instantly increase the price of the entire bitcoin market, and as such, I don't believe we should be providing anything to that person because they must already be extremely wealthy. The crypto market has to be moved by billions of dollars. I hope to one day fulfill that role.

Seems to be absurd though,  this could be one of those ideas that comes from imagination, no offense to the OP. I guess it's better to accept that we are indeed in the bear market and no one, not a single person can move the market to $30k-$40k, And even if that one whale exist in this forum, I doubt that he will do this thing just to move the price to the favor of bitcoin community. Let the market moves into it's natural course and we will be find.

The only people who can move the price of Bitcoin up and down are supplier and demand are the only people that has the power to make the price pump for a long time for people to earn well from their investment, and also dump for long term for people to use the opportunity to buy and hold for a bright future. Apart from these demand and supplier, I don't think there is anyone who can tell the Bitcoin investors that the price will reach $100k tomorrow and it come to pass in the market. Many people has came up to give people such prediction that they are among the people that made Bitcoin price to go up in the market or  decrease in the market but at the end the truth will show itself that they are predictors not the real teams that made the price of Bitcoin pump and dump in the community. I will never be deceive again than to follow up with the market price to buy whenever the price is low in the market and hold to watch whenever the price will go higher before I can supply to market to achieve something good.

If anyone raises the price to $30k-$40k, many of us would love to see it happen because they can make big profits again. But we will never know when they will raise the price and can only wait until they do. And while they haven't yet, we should use this time now to buy as many bitcoins as we can so that we can sell some of our bitcoins for a profit when they raise the price. We can hope they will do it shortly.

The price remained low because the bubble has been burst, and this is the cycle that we know of. So we are in a bear cycle so people are selling since December of last year and there are no big whales that is willing to shake the market and buy tons of it just to impact the price positively.

And besides, they are whales and we don't know his/her identify, so we can't simply influence that individual even if he or she is amongst us in this community.

I struggle to understand your post so I can differentiate between whether you're here seeking for donations or you truly possess the power of moving the BTC price as you claimed. Can you please be more specific and focus in your next post?

No one knows the unseen for sure, otherwise he would be very wealthy just by investing in things that he knows in advance will rise and therefore he has no need for fame or trying to prove to others that he is honest or a correct analysis.
If you have a lot of money it is easy to tell the lies that people believe.

Other than that they are predictions we all should not take for sure.

Are you referring to username Satoshi? Probably he isnt doing anything to join the pump and dump. Also the market cant be controlled by one person unless he holds literally a lot of bitcoin ans its fiat equivalent which he can drag and influence retailers. Theres a lot of whalea out there which can affect the market and the answer why still low is the economy is not in good shape and inflations are getting higher which influence others investors to pull out due to such crisis and no new institutional players are moving in.

First of all, why do you even think of Satoshi in relation to any pump/dump? Second, did you read the second post in this thread? The OP is talking about himself and there is no doubt that a new post could soon appear in which he will take credit for the BTC price jumping 10% in 24 hours ::)

Oh the one who can move up the market? Im probably thinking that he is referring to Satoshi cause he has probably the capacity to make it move. (assuming he got a tons of bitcoin). OP said the only one, so that give me an idea whom who could do such thing. Im not relating Satoshi to pump and dump, and I mentioned that he will unlikely joined.

Everyone or mostly like that. Takign credit for the market jump but do those draw lines really accurate? Even fundamentals could gone wrong or could give an opposite result too.

This has been talked about before, any person who could technically move the price higher, would do so without talking with anyone else or try to showboat their talents. They would do so, and make a profit, let it drop, and do it again and keep repeating that to make millions even billions of dollars without worry.

Hence, it is proved that it can't be done, even the fact that it is not being done so far is the proof that it is not, and until someone says "watch me make it 30k this week" and does it, it will not be believed by anyone and that is normal, because why would anyone believe that. I would do nothing for such a person, because no such person exists.

What bubble? Btc is not a scam so there is no bubble in here. The only reason why the price is low is that we are still in a long term bear, add in that fuds and negative news which can affect the small improvement in the price resulting for the price to fall down again. The bull have started on November but it ended really fast and I think on December, that's the time the price begins to drop.

Maybe some are catching up and selling for the last minute but the selling had declined upon we entered this year because the price do also continued to decline. No one wants to sell cheap or sell at a loss so the best thing that they can do for now is hodl and buy some.

There will be greater problem if the price of Bitcoin keeps going up and up. Even if you have the super power to do so, please don't keep pushing it up without allowing it get down for sometimes.
So, you can understand that the problem is not who will keep pushing the price up, but what we want is who will tell where the bottom will be, when exactly the next bull will start and when it will stop.

I have been in this space long for a long time, but upto a year. I know what moves the price of Bitcoin, it is me and you and nothing else. When we panic and sell the price will drop, when we excite and buy the price will grow. Just like we are waiting for the next halving, there is nothing serious happening then if not that we will all buy at that time and the price will move. So, don't play any superficial or mind game with us.

Yeah, we heard all about it, the law of supply and demand. And so, currently we may say that there is no demand because the price is going down low. Nevertheless, if we look and analyze the volume, there is, it's that the buyers are being outnumbered by the sellers, and so it's just a question of why or this is really the nature of bitcoin market as it is open for everyone, Each one of us have our own investment or trading strategy. So there is no single mover in the market, it's a collective effort if we wanted to push the price higher. Same as when it's going on a spiral mode, everyone is pushing that sell button.

but wait , who are those people that can possibly up the price to 30-40k? am still confuse to what is the validation of your claim because there are no onecan truly do such thing.
sorry but your arguments seems out of the context , is A1 denying the increase of Bitcoin price? lol there are different market and different people that believes in crypto and believe in A1.

how do you find them? are they telling what they will act tomorrow?

I think so too because the logic is very simple when there is so much buying demand in the market for Bitcoin, then an increase in the price of Bitcoin will definitely happen and it's definitely not the work of one person. But from many people around the world or from those who are already familiar with Bitcoin, and as usual when Bitcoin starts to rise. Other cryptocurrencies also often follow in the market which is also due to the increasing demand for buying on the market which is also done by many people, of course.

You must be civil If you want me to read your post. Speaking especially to those at the top.
In regards to moving the price up,  all you need to say is: do it let's see, if it works then there will be rewards. This is why I love Proof of Work considering the Trust issue.
Just say Prove it and be rewarded if true = PoW



My respect to those who show some respect despite the hard-to-believe-claim. Blessings

I did not say that it is a scam, what I'm saying that it works on a cycle, boom and bust, bull and bear market. And it won't go on a parabolic rise, and later it will have to be bust like in 2017 December and 2021 November, both when we reach ATH.

Then wise investors are going to take advantage and buy those cheap bitcoin from those who panic sell. There will be always who are going to sell for whatever reasons they have, regardless if it cheap. As long as they have their own valid reasons.

Like what I saw today on the single Chart from the US. dollar Index is mind blowing, literally the Index is currently on its exhausting point (ATH) and the only thing remaining is its reversal, then too comparing Bitcoin / us.dollar index , is equally in the zone of reversal too. After I did all the Technical Analysis between the two asset I got more confidence in Bitcoin and we could be getting the longest/Biggest Bitcoin Bull Market in the history of Bitcoin, If that plays out and the market finally bottom's out.

You have a point. Bitcoin usually moves against the movement of DXY while DXY is now at the critical level for a reversal. I’m also carefully watching DXY because this is the best indicator to determine the next move of crypto. Even though TapA shows that DXY is near to pop, there’s still a chance that Bitcoin will follow first on the fall and just recover strong after the fall.

Making long position right now or buying more position is very dangerous without waiting confirmation on the trend.

I publicly called you to prove and you failed, which is more than enough proof that you live in the illusion that you, as an irrelevant individual, have an influence on the price of Bitcoin. Your proof of work is nothing but a miserable attempt to take credit for anything positive that happens with the price of Bitcoin, and from now on I will use the "report to moderator" button for your topics of this type.

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I came to read some useful information but found exaggerating thread claiming something that has no proof. If you have no proof of what you are telling us then I think it's decent enough to stop the delusional attempt to make someone believe what you are trying to do.

Price of Bitcoin probably move because of the people under demand and supply. If you think this is something like what Elon Musk did in the past then you are wrong. That guy has done profiting already and is staying switching to altcoins.

What person or who's that person you might be talking to that you believed has moved the price then?

Of course you are right that price fluctuations are caused by supply and demand. I wouldn't believe a group of people can afford to raise the price of bitcoin by a large amount if they don't have enough funds to buy high, that must be something hard to happen. Sometimes an increase in the demand for bitcoin by institutional investors can trigger a price movement, but I don't agree with that being said as someone can raise the price.

Normally fluctuations are caused by market participants due to supply and demand, not by someone because it is very unlikely. Even if they invest large sums, it is just a fundamental trigger for other traders.

I would love to reply your posts and challenge them, but you have to be civil.

I think the tactics of pigs to avoid defeat by human is to fight in filthy water