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Title: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Lottocryptos on September 05, 2022, 08:32:38 PM Greetings, I am pleased to announce the launch of Lottocryptos.com, a multi crypto lotteries website. Its use is anonymous and it supports multiple cryptos and languages. And it will be further expanded in the future.
How does it work: - To participate, players just have to select the crypto they want and send their coins. - Once the transaction is verified, the player will be assigned a range of numbers for their participation based on the verification order. - The draws will be held on Sundays at 23:30 UTC, where a random number will be selected. The winner being the one whose range of participation numbers is included in the winning number. - The prize will consist of everything purchased by the players minus a commission as service and transaction costs (between 1% and 4% maximum, although it could be reduced in the future). - The prize will be sent to the winning wallet address. To know more details I invite you all to visit the website. HOME (https://lottocryptos.com) Thanks. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS: How is the winning number generated? Recently, as it was suggested to me, I have recently implemented a "Provably Fair" system for random number generation. With this the winning number at the end of the lottery can be predicted. How the winning number is generated (https://lottocryptos.com/validation/) Example (https://lottocryptos.com/validation/725431582b427675414d57486c6e5a5a4475652f5366514a4b35683052325961546e424a446c75597977507255764948316f6e2f5162525a305a6a364756687a4e4c6a764f566d4b64726d484838375a6332354b575377752b4a4c3970447a2b65754c7745336746475853626e7271414a684b675548654e75757779656375495038524951724371635141576e586b6d39662f5a5a317771716b514f31616e566f743371396570324e574166324d5748364f35646b68416b707a6e34456e58595749467635423764587257787a2b366248324c65375232626a4f3377367755693056625657696159432f7859782f534136544a7644515a755879363143475a68426a4571464437445172754e32774633652f34526c744e3047444f6246566f39652f6448356157597a57593d/) Why the website has this design? The website has been designed from scratch and there is no desire to use third party libraries. The reasons are: - Efficiency, the website loads very fast and is lightweight. Link (https://gtmetrix.com/reports/lottocryptos.com/1Y8xZtp3/) - Security, I have seen many sites designed with Wordpress or Joomla hacked due to a template or plugin with security issues. Security is important. Link (https://securityheaders.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flottocryptos.com&hide=on&followRedirects=on) - Time, being a design from scratch is not very developed, as time passes it will improve but without compromising efficiency or security. Regarding the look and feel, it's just a personal preference, I like the Windows look and feel of the late 90's and early 20th century, for it's ease of reading. I also like the gray and blue tones in the theme to give it a business and serious look. Why can it take 48 hours to pay? The cryptocurrency world is not perfect, there can be 51% attacks, or any other problem that affects transactions on the blockchain, I prefer there to be a margin of safety. Payments are made manually to avoid any problems that could arise due to hackers. Passwords to pay out prizes are not stored on the server. There are few players and prizes can take a long time to pay out I find it disingenuous to fill the site with fake players to simulate activity, although it is probably a good business strategy that some sites use. I believe that all players should be real and traceable. Each player's purchase of lottery tickets has a transaction id that can be verifiable on the blockchain of each cryptocurrency. In the same way as when prizes are sent. On the other hand, the site has only been open to the public for a couple of months, the search engines are still indexing it. I haven't made any effort to advertise it so far either. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: notblox1 on September 05, 2022, 09:00:19 PM The draws will be held on Sundays at 23:30 UTC, where a random number will be selected. The winner being the one whose range of participation numbers is included in the winning number. How do we know that numbers are selected truly random and how can this be verified?It's not hard for someone to create a lottery website and show any numbers they want saying they are random. I am tracking bitcoin lottery websites so I will consider adding your website in future: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278167.0 Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: crzy on September 05, 2022, 09:23:59 PM Welcome here in the forum and actually since you posted it here, expect more questions here instead of going to your discord channel. The only concern when it comes to lottery is its fairness, are you guys have a license and working with other provider to ensure the correctness of the draw numbers? Also you can edit your post into a more attractive way, getting a copper member is good as well.
Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on September 05, 2022, 09:27:45 PM This is actually my first time hearing of "Lottocryptos", but however, I humbly welcome you to the bitcointalk community forum, because this is actually the best place to find lovers of Bitcoin "Crypto". And I'm sure you must be familiar how crypto casinos and platforms does effective marketing on the forum, right? But If not, then I guess here is a clue. As a new gambling site, running a signature and avatar campaign will create more exposure to your gambling site, of which you can hire reputable managers such as
"Cryptoprenuerbrainboss" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124215.0) for a successful job, and equally get a copper account that will enable you post pictures in your ANN thread Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: fortunecrypto on September 05, 2022, 09:31:08 PM A few Information about the site, it's only a week old and you have chosen a good place to launch your lottery we have already a lot of lotteries here and yours is very interesting as it offers a wide range of coins to bet, the design is also unique, you should do marketing to get more bettors as it stated in the information that
Quote Lotteries require a minimum pot to be held.... In the event that a draw does not take place, verified players from that draw will participate in the next week and following weeks until the draw can be held. The participants' money could be on hold there for a long time if there are fewer participantsDomain:lottocryptos.com Registrar:CloudFlare, Inc. Registered On:2021-08-29 Expires On:2023-08-29 Updated On:2021-12-30 Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Hamphser on September 05, 2022, 09:31:29 PM I had read up on how to play thing and this one i do only complain.
The prize is up to 99% of what the players bought and is paid out in less than 48 hours.The prize is sent to the wallet address from which the winning ticket was purchased. It should be instant and waiting up for 2 days just for you to get that winning amount isnt just really that appealing at all. Btw, welcome into this forum! ;) Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: DoublerHunter on September 05, 2022, 09:56:41 PM ~snip~ ^ Why will you not create an official announcement thread of your gambling casino here in the forum? To know more details I invite you all to visit the website or ask the questions you want in the Discord Channel. Try to look at other gambling casinos they have here an ANN thread here that is regularly updated for their regular activities, you can do the same as well to lure gamblers too. However, welcome to the forum, and good luck with your business, this is not about to discourage you but lotteries here usually do not survive. To tell you honestly because I have been here for how many years and there are too many lotteries that had passed and I hope you will catch the interest of those gamblers out there. I hope also you are active in answering legitimate questions, that is how the community will trust your casino. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: ryzaadit on September 05, 2022, 10:17:18 PM -snip- Not really new.Lotto-gambling is the one of gambling game are more suitable for on-chain gambling, while all transaction from (Gambling to Winning) directly to your personal wallet with a smart contract without human activity. PancakeSwap has its own Lottery. The participants' money could be on hold there for a long time if there are fewer participants More precisely getting a hold to the next pot until the minimum pot is reaching (200$). Anyway, @notblox1 is correct, what mechanism you're using for rolling the lotto? what technology you're using ? example like RNG or other think ? I can't find provably fair on the site. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: coin-investor on September 05, 2022, 10:22:30 PM I'm sure there is a market for this kind of gambling but you have to do the right marketing to not only introduce your lottery site but to be competitive in your niche you can start by wearing a copper account and design your announcement thread to make it more appealing it's to early to ask for the signature campaign but do plan one for the future.
Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: KennyR on September 05, 2022, 10:52:28 PM So many lottery websites same as this have got into usage, and this is simply hard to believe. For example take it as 100 tickets as a whole, and here if 50 tickets have got sold they'll shuffle the entire 100 tickets and choose the number. If the ticket within 50 gets chosen on the random pick the winning will be the lottery house. So, being transparent is much important and to grab the attention of users with these kind of service trust is more essential.
Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: PX-Z on September 05, 2022, 10:59:44 PM People here actually knows what is probably fair[1] and what advantage it can be in gambling games that is based on thoroughly random number for the winning/lossing result like this.
As long it is not what is implemented then it's good to assume that your random numbers can be flawed. [1] https://github.com/provably-fair/provably-fair-app Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: robelneo on September 05, 2022, 11:28:40 PM To know more details I invite you all to visit the website or ask the questions you want in the Discord Channel. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Oilacris on September 05, 2022, 11:56:47 PM I'm sure there is a market for this kind of gambling but you have to do the right marketing to not only introduce your lottery site but to be competitive in your niche you can start by wearing a copper account and design your announcement thread to make it more appealing it's to early to ask for the signature campaign but do plan one for the future. We have seen lots of lottery based gambling sites in the past but still ending up on closing down due to lack of interest.Lets say that this one is legit and fair but when it comes to recognition then it cant really assure out that it would really be getting sufficient number of players even if he would set or allocate huge funds for marketing.Lets just accept that lottery based sites or business doesnt really get that much interest due to long time waiting before the winner would be known or announced plus this one is involved on waiting game before the round starts it would be still needing to sold out all of the available slots or tickets. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Little Mouse on September 06, 2022, 02:13:29 AM Are you picking the winners manually? Or with random number generator? I think none of this ways are transparent enough which may look the lottery as scam or suspicious. You can try this methodology instead so that everything is transparent and look no suspicious- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711959.msg17182616#msg17182616
In that way, people would also get interested to join the lottery. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 06, 2022, 03:36:00 AM I agree with the general tone of the previous responses. We need to know more, especially to make sure that the system used for the lottery is fair, otherwise it is not going to get many customers on this forum, as there are other alternatives.
- Once the transaction is verified, the player will be assigned a range of numbers for their participation based on the verification order. I guess you already have the system worked out, but I think it would be better if you let the players choose their numbers instead of assigning them. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: btc78 on September 06, 2022, 05:59:39 AM A few Information about the site, it's only a week old and you have chosen a good place to launch your lottery we have already a lot of lotteries here and yours is very interesting as it offers a wide range of coins to bet, the design is also unique, you should do marketing to get more bettors as it stated in the information that with all of these , its look like everything is favoring the site Only and players might be in the verge of being a victim here lol. but I'm not saying that this site is a scam but the way it shows here looks like bettors are not in safer place.Quote Lotteries require a minimum pot to be held.... In the event that a draw does not take place, verified players from that draw will participate in the next week and following weeks until the draw can be held. The participants' money could be on hold there for a long time if there are fewer participantsDomain:lottocryptos.com Registrar:CloudFlare, Inc. Registered On:2021-08-29 Expires On:2023-08-29 Updated On:2021-12-30 But of course welcome to LOTTOCRYPTOS in this forum , there are several lotto site popped in this forum recently but none of them made high support. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: samcrypto on September 06, 2022, 10:08:03 AM More informations about this site can be a big help, many are now getting confused about how the site can know the winners, if it’s randomly and will host by a third party maybe that’s good but if the numbers will just pick manually I doubt about gamblers coming into this site. Looking forward to see updates here because I’m really interesting in lottery, and might try this if I see the fairness.
Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: rodskee on September 06, 2022, 10:18:25 AM I love Lottery , I love winning big betting low.
but what i want to enter is the safer place where the casino has been proven to be legit and trusted . How can we be sure that this is something that does not seek for any wrong way of gambling? i mean the advertising is poor and the OP isn't even active . maybe will check this thread in the future if there is good outcome from the other bettor . Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: livingfree on September 06, 2022, 11:00:28 AM I think of your website is like a forum and not an actual lottery website. As first glance, it's confusing for me honestly if it's a lottery and really thought of it as a forum.
Maybe you can redesign it and make it simpler. Or is it just me that really thinks that you're having that much design for a lottery. Although I find it cool but just IMHO not suiting the design. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Eternad on September 06, 2022, 12:27:37 PM I think of your website is like a forum and not an actual lottery website. As first glance, it's confusing for me honestly if it's a lottery and really thought of it as a forum. Maybe you can redesign it and make it simpler. Or is it just me that really thinks that you're having that much design for a lottery. Although I find it cool but just IMHO not suiting the design. The design is indeed like the UI of forum but if you will notice immediately that it’s a lottery website once you read the content since the display is pure lottery betting option in different currency. I think the design is catchy for me because it is well organized and easy to browse the options and results. The forum style is not a usual format but it’s not bad idea since it is more organized to browse that way. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: tbterryboy on September 06, 2022, 03:29:42 PM The participants' money could be on hold there for a long time if there are fewer participants More precisely getting a hold to the next pot until the minimum pot is reaching (200$). I know lottery games are already slow but with a rule like this, it could become more slower and what if unfortunate events happened later on like the site turned offline for a long time until we found out that they abandoned the site already and took all the players coins? I think it would be better if they revised some of their rules so that players can gain more confidence upon trying this site new out. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: Jawhead999 on September 06, 2022, 04:01:14 PM Welcome to the forum,
It seems the site is quite new and there's no traffic since there's only 17 players who take a part on Ravencoin lotteries. Honestly the site isn't attracting to play since many casinos already have great UI/UX. I know this site also have old design created by SMF software, but it's a forum which is doesn't really need great UI/UX. I see it's hard for you to attract many players, lotteries aren't an exciting games anymore since it's need to wait a long time until the winner can be drawed. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: ethereumhunter on September 06, 2022, 04:27:19 PM Welcome to the Bitcointalk forum. Hope you like this forum and successfully promote your website.
The interface of the website looks like a classic website. When I look at the last time people played the lottery, it was yesterday and in August. It proves that you need to market your website not only on the Bitcointalk forum but also on other websites such as social media or by registering your site to a website directory to get additional viewers. There's still a lot you need to do to make your website able to get a lot of visitors. I hope @OP can come back here and discuss with us and not just be active on Discord because @OP already gave his website in this forum. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: livingfree on September 06, 2022, 10:58:59 PM I think of your website is like a forum and not an actual lottery website. As first glance, it's confusing for me honestly if it's a lottery and really thought of it as a forum. Maybe you can redesign it and make it simpler. Or is it just me that really thinks that you're having that much design for a lottery. Although I find it cool but just IMHO not suiting the design. The design is indeed like the UI of forum but if you will notice immediately that it’s a lottery website once you read the content since the display is pure lottery betting option in different currency. I think the design is catchy for me because it is well organized and easy to browse the options and results. The forum style is not a usual format but it’s not bad idea since it is more organized to browse that way. Well, wishing that with its way of marketing and design it can attract more players to it. The number of the cryptocurrencies that they have is also a lot which I think could affect on its attraction to new users on board. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: stomachgrowls on September 06, 2022, 11:30:38 PM I think of your website is like a forum and not an actual lottery website. As first glance, it's confusing for me honestly if it's a lottery and really thought of it as a forum. Maybe you can redesign it and make it simpler. Or is it just me that really thinks that you're having that much design for a lottery. Although I find it cool but just IMHO not suiting the design. The design is indeed like the UI of forum but if you will notice immediately that it’s a lottery website once you read the content since the display is pure lottery betting option in different currency. I think the design is catchy for me because it is well organized and easy to browse the options and results. The forum style is not a usual format but it’s not bad idea since it is more organized to browse that way. Well, wishing that with its way of marketing and design it can attract more players to it. The number of the cryptocurrencies that they have is also a lot which I think could affect on its attraction to new users on board. because we do know on whats the best for the site if there are some problems or not appealing to look at.People here on this forum are highly reactive when it comes to design and template of a new site. Next, would be fairness because if people do find out that the site isnt fair despite of having fancy design and similar things but ending up on not fair then it would really still get on the same impression which would be negative. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: peter0425 on September 07, 2022, 02:10:14 AM Im not here to welcome this as OP isn't showing interest in advertising nor talking to the community about the project and this is gambling and much risky for everyone .
try the site with caution as OP seems to shows not coming back here and will only communicate thru discord or other social media outlet . Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: aioc on September 07, 2022, 03:47:02 AM I expect OP to be very active here because he is promoting a casino with a small niche Crypto lottery is not yet that very popular, but since posting the announcement he is not posting anymore that's a 48 hours gap already, not acceptable for the community there are many legit questions that need to be addressed and lack of OP's activity will shun away new players that are interested in his lottery.
Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 07, 2022, 03:51:34 AM I expect OP to be very active here because he is promoting a casino with a small niche Crypto lottery is not yet that very popular, but since posting the announcement he is not posting anymore that's a 48 hours gap already, not acceptable for the community there are many legit questions that need to be addressed and lack of OP's activity will shun away new players that are interested in his lottery. Well, it doesn't look very good. If he really wants to promote this he should be more active after creating the OP. It wouldn't be the first case we've seen where a thread like this is created and then the OP doesn't come back. Besides there are more effective ways to advertise his site, like paying for advertising on the forum or creating a signature campaign, but that's a serious investment and it seems to me that the OP is going for cheap. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: GigaBit on September 07, 2022, 05:16:10 AM Greetings, I am pleased to announce the launch of Lottocryptos.com, a multi crypto lotteries website. Its use is anonymous and it supports multiple cryptos and languages. And it will be further expanded in the future. Since you are promoting a new lottery site, you need to provide a suitable answer as to why a user would play the lottery on your site? What are the advantages than others? Because many sites have come and gone in the past. Also your site is a new one. If you are looking to do something long-term and authentic, then you are welcome. Also, there are things you need to focus on to increase awareness of a legitimate site or increase trust in it. After doing these things properly you can expect your business to be successful.How does it work: - To participate, players just have to select the crypto they want and send their coins. - Once the transaction is verified, the player will be assigned a range of numbers for their participation based on the verification order. - The draws will be held on Sundays at 23:30 UTC, where a random number will be selected. The winner being the one whose range of participation numbers is included in the winning number. - The prize will consist of everything purchased by the players minus a commission as service and transaction costs (between 1% and 4% maximum, although it could be reduced in the future). - The prize will be sent to the winning wallet address. To know more details I invite you all to visit the website or ask the questions you want in the Discord Channel. HOME (https://lottocryptos.com) DISCORD (https://discord.gg/waCgwmxMFr) Thanks. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: davis196 on September 07, 2022, 06:25:40 AM 1.Make a more professional announcement thread if you really want to attract lottery players.
2.Your website looks as if it was made back in 1999. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, but web design has evolved in the past 22 years and there are gambling websites, that are way more beautiful and functional. Old web design from the 90s has it's own charm, but your particular website design seems boring and lacking personality and attitude. It looks a little bit amateurish. 3.How many players are currently active in your lotteries, OP? I can't seem to find any info about this. 4.Having a big variety of altcoins doesn't mean anything, if you don't have a good looking and functional website. Good luck with this project. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Bitinity on September 07, 2022, 07:22:22 AM I expect OP to be very active here because he is promoting a casino with a small niche Crypto lottery is not yet that very popular, but since posting the announcement he is not posting anymore that's a 48 hours gap already, not acceptable for the community there are many legit questions that need to be addressed and lack of OP's activity will shun away new players that are interested in his lottery. I dont really like this fact where a new site come to this forum, created an ANN thread but not actively communicating with the forum members. Honestly, I dont like this type of game. Some people call it as lottery but I would prefer to call it as raffle game. This new site is not really bad when I visited for the first time, at least I see there is an effort to create it. However, seems that the owner do not know the fact that this kind of game need extra effort to promote in order to gain interest. I've to say it is a start but also the end of the new site. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: FatFork on September 07, 2022, 09:12:53 AM I'm not trying to be a jerk here, just being honest and direct. The design of this site really looks bad and poorly laid out, and there are a lot of weird features that are seemingly just there for no reason. I can't imagine getting any business from it. Of course, anyone can't expect the new site will be really good, especially if it's done by a novice. But if you don't know how to design and code, at least get someone who does, or hire someone to do it for you.
I truly hope that OP will be more active on these forums in the future and also try to listen to the recommendations and opinions of the community because this is the best way to learn and improve. This is a great place to start, but if you want your site to be successful, you need to listen to what people are saying and try to improve it. Only then this site can has better future and survive in the world of casino online game. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Lottocryptos on September 07, 2022, 10:34:18 AM Thank you for all the questions and issues you raise. Sorry for the delay, the truth is that I did not expect it.
All these questions will be added to a FAQ section of the website. I have added to the main post the answer to all the questions. If you have more doubts I would like to solve them. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: FatFork on September 07, 2022, 11:23:19 AM How is the winning number generated? The winning number is chosen using the PHP function random_int (https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.random-int.php), according to the PHP manual the random_int function "Generates cryptographic random integers that are suitable for use where unbiased results are critical, such as when shuffling a deck of cards for a poker game.". I was thinking of using other methods like entering a manual random seed, but apart from complicating the project, it would not increase the randomness and could be considered that the result has been manipulated. In the end, it was decided that the winner is chosen by the computer alone without human intervention. We have no objection to your way of generating randomness, but to the fact that your system is not provably fair. What's stopping you from drawing the numbers until you get a result that works in your favor? All of this can be done in the background in a fraction of a second and players have no way to verify that the draw was fair and unbiased. Learn what provably fair systems mean. Why the website has this design? The website has been designed from scratch and there is no desire to use third party libraries. Regarding the look and feel, it's just a personal preference, I like the Windows look and feel of the late 90's and early 20th century, for it's ease of reading. I also like the gray and blue tones in the theme to give it a business and serious look. Yes, it's a personal preference, but the primary purpose of design is to sell a product. Does your design sell a product? Besides, you don't have to compromise on speed to have a beautifully designed site. Websites can be both lightweight and attractive at the same time. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: Lottocryptos on September 07, 2022, 11:36:04 AM We have no objection to your way of generating randomness, but to the fact that your system is not provably fair. What's stopping you from drawing the numbers until you get a result that works in your favor? All of this can be done in the background in a fraction of a second and players have no way to verify that the draw was fair and unbiased. Learn what provably fair systems mean. It is a problem that all casinos and online games have, whether they are cryptocurrencies or not. And there is no easy solution, unless the game and its code are audited 24 hours a day. At least on my site, since the transactions are traceable, it can be seen that some winners could be players with old wallets and long transaction history. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: coin-investor on September 07, 2022, 11:42:51 AM Is this stat updated daily?
Coins: 37 Lotteries: 247 Highest Prize: 7.69 $ Total Prizes: 45.09 $ Last time I checked that's the same stat showing, not really that good if you cannot invite people to play here, I'm not discouraging you but this niche is very small you will have to maximize your marketing, be active here and try to be as transparent as possible, we can count the number of Crypt lottery based site here and they are not really that popular it competitive compare to casinos, but still keep up until you build your community. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Nrcewker on September 07, 2022, 12:24:17 PM The draws will be held on Sundays at 23:30 UTC, where a random number will be selected. The winner being the one whose range of participation numbers is included in the winning number. How do we know that numbers are selected truly random and how can this be verified?It's not hard for someone to create a lottery website and show any numbers they want saying they are random. I am tracking bitcoin lottery websites so I will consider adding your website in future: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278167.0 Yup until and unless there is transparency in the drawing of numbers, no one will dare to participate with their money. Moreover what if there aren’t enough participants , participating in the lottery? Then you will send the money back to the sender’s address? Nevertheless in this case the sender will unnecessarily bear tx fees on their Bitcoins. Also there aren’t many people here interested to play on their luck and that too with lucky draw. So op it would be better for you if you can introduce something more solid game in your site. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: FatFork on September 07, 2022, 12:28:36 PM It is a problem that all casinos and online games have, whether they are cryptocurrencies or not. And there is no easy solution, unless the game and its code are audited 24 hours a day. That is very far from the truth and only shows your ignorance of the matter. As I mentioned before, I suggest you learn what provably fair method means and how it works. It is possible, for example, to publish a random number in an encrypted form before the game and then reveal the key afterwards, or to use publicly available but unpredictable information (for example, the hash of the next block). This would ensure fairness in your game. What is a "Provably Fair" and How does it work? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150219.0) A guide to how Provably Fair works. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161236.0) At least on my site, since the transactions are traceable, it can be seen that some winners could be players with old wallets and long transaction history. That's irrelevant. There is no way to identify the real owners of these wallets, and whether or not they are actually legitimate players. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Lottocryptos on September 07, 2022, 01:10:58 PM Is this stat updated daily? Coins: 37 Lotteries: 247 Highest Prize: 7.69 $ Total Prizes: 45.09 $ Last time I checked that's the same stat showing, not really that good if you cannot invite people to play here, I'm not discouraging you but this niche is very small you will have to maximize your marketing, be active here and try to be as transparent as possible, we can count the number of Crypt lottery based site here and they are not really that popular it competitive compare to casinos, but still keep up until you build your community. No, they are historical data, updated weekly. The prizes are from lotteries that were made during development (without public access). Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: Lottocryptos on September 07, 2022, 02:08:35 PM What is a "Provably Fair" and How does it work? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150219.0) A guide to how Provably Fair works. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161236.0) One message seems to apply only to single player games, such as dice games or bet on a number. I don't know how I could apply it in a multiplayer game. If I use the hash of the first player, the other players will have an advantage. And the hash of the last player may not be known until draw time. Furthermore, the sha256 encryption used in the hashing is already considered insecure and not recommended. In the other it shows the message: "Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution." In any case, I think it would be possible to create a demo page in my website. In it, a new player could simulate participating in the lottery, with the amount he wants and with the players already participating. And from there calculate the winning number, the odds of winning and if he had won at that time. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: FatFork on September 07, 2022, 02:48:58 PM One message seems to apply only to single player games, such as dice games or bet on a number. I don't know how I could apply it in a multiplayer game. If I use the hash of the first player, the other players will have an advantage. And the hash of the last player may not be known until draw time. I just gave you some examples to help you understand how the provably fair system works. These are not ready-made solutions; you should DYOR and come up with your own solution. Furthermore, the sha256 encryption used in the hashing is already considered insecure and not recommended. Where did you get such an idea? I think you are confusing encryption with hashing. SHA256 is a cryptographic hash function, not an encryption method. In the other it shows the message: ... How is that relevant here? It is an active flag on that member, it has nothing to do with the topic. In any case, I think it would be possible to create a demo page in my website. In it, a new player could simulate participating in the lottery, with the amount he wants and with the players already participating. And from there calculate the winning number, the odds of winning and if he had won at that time. You still don't understand what "provably fair" means and why it matters. In any case, good luck with your project, but I can hardly give it any chance of success. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: coinerer on September 07, 2022, 03:19:05 PM Is this stat updated daily? I applaud the OP for taking a big initiative but the market is so competitive now, you definitely need to upgrade your site if you want to get more users. Also you have to spend money for its promotion at the same time you will have give more attention about the security reasons. First time you may not get many users as expected but after a while the number of users will increase a lot.Coins: 37 Lotteries: 247 Highest Prize: 7.69 $ Total Prizes: 45.09 $ Last time I checked that's the same stat showing, not really that good if you cannot invite people to play here, I'm not discouraging you but this niche is very small you will have to maximize your marketing, be active here and try to be as transparent as possible, we can count the number of Crypt lottery based site here and they are not really that popular it competitive compare to casinos, but still keep up until you build your community. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Lottocryptos on September 07, 2022, 04:12:57 PM A few Information about the site, it's only a week old and you have chosen a good place to launch your lottery we have already a lot of lotteries here and yours is very interesting as it offers a wide range of coins to bet, the design is also unique, you should do marketing to get more bettors as it stated in the information that The participants' money could be on hold there for a long time if there are fewer participants Domain:lottocryptos.com Registrar:CloudFlare, Inc. Registered On:2021-08-29 Expires On:2023-08-29 Updated On:2021-12-30 Is domain expiration a problem? It is no longer, I just extended it to ten years. Sorry, the 1-2 year domain expiration is from the habit of working with domains for online shops and blogs. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: notblox1 on September 07, 2022, 05:08:42 PM Is domain expiration a problem? Ten years for domain is more than enough, but you need to start with some marketing campaign for your website.It is no longer, I just extended it to ten years. I just checked players and most of them used Ravencoin, so that means there is no lotto drawing for Bitcoin and other coins, if that is the only way for getting rewards. People need to have some trust that you won't just shutdown website and run away when enough coins are deposited. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: livingfree on September 07, 2022, 07:21:05 PM Yes, it's not a bad idea but that's just the impression that I've taken after seeing the format and UI design. But that's okay, uniqueness of a website is also catchy to its visitors and I guess if OP notices that there's a need to change, he will change it eventually. Whenever you do make out some ANN thread into this forum and able to hear out and see some advises and recommendation then it would really be better if you do really consider out on applying itWell, wishing that with its way of marketing and design it can attract more players to it. The number of the cryptocurrencies that they have is also a lot which I think could affect on its attraction to new users on board. because we do know on whats the best for the site if there are some problems or not appealing to look at.People here on this forum are highly reactive when it comes to design and template of a new site. Next, would be fairness because if people do find out that the site isnt fair despite of having fancy design and similar things but ending up on not fair then it would really still get on the same impression which would be negative. Im not here to welcome this as OP isn't showing interest in advertising nor talking to the community about the project and this is gambling and much risky for everyone . He might be late but he already replied and thanking everyone who has suggestions to them.Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 07, 2022, 09:13:22 PM So many lottery websites same as this have got into usage, and this is simply hard to believe. For example take it as 100 tickets as a whole, and here if 50 tickets have got sold they'll shuffle the entire 100 tickets and choose the number. If the ticket within 50 gets chosen on the random pick the winning will be the lottery house. So, being transparent is much important and to grab the attention of users with these kind of service trust is more essential. Plus some often confirm that it is transparent but in fact, it is difficult to prove with a purchased ticket it is quite easy to lose. Buying Lottery tickets which if we look at them online is indeed profitable at home and until now most of the lottery numbers that have been selected may have included one or two real participants to trick other buyers. I've tried a few times and if you think about the fun level the Lottery is definitely not effective. If you have other betting options maybe my advice The Lottery is much less transparent at the moment.Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: decodx on September 07, 2022, 10:00:44 PM So many lottery websites same as this have got into usage, and this is simply hard to believe. For example take it as 100 tickets as a whole, and here if 50 tickets have got sold they'll shuffle the entire 100 tickets and choose the number. If the ticket within 50 gets chosen on the random pick the winning will be the lottery house. So, being transparent is much important and to grab the attention of users with these kind of service trust is more essential. Plus some often confirm that it is transparent but in fact, it is difficult to prove with a purchased ticket it is quite easy to lose. Buying Lottery tickets which if we look at them online is indeed profitable at home and until now most of the lottery numbers that have been selected may have included one or two real participants to trick other buyers. I've tried a few times and if you think about the fun level the Lottery is definitely not effective. If you have other betting options maybe my advice The Lottery is much less transparent at the moment.I totally agree. @Lottocryptos, since there have been so many scam lotteries in the past, I think you should focus on the Provably Fair system in the back end instead of marketing your site. How can we be sure that this lottery site is 100% honest and not running a rigged system? To be honest, I would never participate in any lottery that is not provably fair, especially when the odds of winning are very small. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: peter0425 on September 08, 2022, 01:23:27 AM Im not here to welcome this as OP isn't showing interest in advertising nor talking to the community about the project and this is gambling and much risky for everyone . He might be late but he already replied and thanking everyone who has suggestions to them.so with this I am going to formally welcome them here in Bitcointalk and might ask for more transparency and activities here and in the whole gambling section . Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: EarnOnVictor on September 08, 2022, 06:41:35 AM Is domain expiration a problem? Ten years for domain is more than enough, but you need to start with some marketing campaign for your website.It is no longer, I just extended it to ten years. I just checked players and most of them used Ravencoin, so that means there is no lotto drawing for Bitcoin and other coins, if that is the only way for getting rewards. People need to have some trust that you won't just shutdown website and run away when enough coins are deposited. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: dezoel on September 08, 2022, 07:22:23 AM Is domain expiration a problem? Ten years for domain is more than enough, but you need to start with some marketing campaign for your website.It is no longer, I just extended it to ten years. I just checked players and most of them used Ravencoin, so that means there is no lotto drawing for Bitcoin and other coins, if that is the only way for getting rewards. People need to have some trust that you won't just shutdown website and run away when enough coins are deposited. Maybe using an escrow is possible to implement here? Since some games can take a long time to start but that escrow must also be trusted and are a member of this forum. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Lottocryptos on September 08, 2022, 07:39:38 AM I was reading this thread at random when I got to your posts, you have good points in all of your posts that I have read. It is not shocking though but suspicious to me, scammers are everywhere looking for ways to get their prey. I don't call this one a scam but any crypto lotto that is not so popular will not be my choice. There are many popular ones I know, I had better continue with them than try something I don't trust. I don't think that a serious lottery company can use only Ravencoin also. I believe they have a partnership, and anything can happen. There is no partnership. I've just been using Ravencoin for development, because it's GPU minable, has an active community, and its transaction fees and price are low. Although I have not yet made any announcement in any forum or Discord channel of any cryptocurrency. When I started developing the website, I looked for a cryptocurrency that was in the Top 100. What alternatives did I have? - Bitcoin or Dogecoin require ASICs to mine. - Ethereum or based on the Ethereum network have high transaction fees (at least until ETH 2.0 arrives). - Others are not mineable because they are stable coins, staked or game/activity based. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: Lottocryptos on September 08, 2022, 07:54:29 AM I totally agree. @Lottocryptos, since there have been so many scam lotteries in the past, I think you should focus on the Provably Fair system in the back end instead of marketing your site. How can we be sure that this lottery site is 100% honest and not running a rigged system? To be honest, I would never participate in any lottery that is not provably fair, especially when the odds of winning are very small. I have been thinking about implementing a Provably Fair System as suggested by FatFork. But I can't think of how to do it with multiple simultaneous players and an undetermined number range until draw time. It can be applied to dice or roulette games, because they have a determined range of numbers. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: EarnOnVictor on September 08, 2022, 07:58:11 AM I was reading this thread at random when I got to your posts, you have good points in all of your posts that I have read. It is not shocking though but suspicious to me, scammers are everywhere looking for ways to get their prey. I don't call this one a scam but any crypto lotto that is not so popular will not be my choice. There are many popular ones I know, I had better continue with them than try something I don't trust. I don't think that a serious lottery company can use only Ravencoin also. I believe they have a partnership, and anything can happen. There is no partnership. I've just been using Ravencoin for development, because it's GPU minable, has an active community, and its transaction fees and price are low. Although I have not yet made any announcement in any forum or Discord channel of any cryptocurrency. When I started developing the website, I looked for a cryptocurrency that was in the Top 100. What alternatives did I have? - Bitcoin or Dogecoin require ASICs to mine. - Ethereum or based on the Ethereum network have high transaction fees (at least until ETH 2.0 arrives). - Others are not mineable because they are stable coins, staked or game/activity based. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Reatim on September 08, 2022, 08:31:54 AM Hello and welcome here mate, trying to read all the post but there are still some question and advices that needed to be addressed and followed so you may earn trust from us since we are Lottery Lover and I will surely play in your event whenever it is ready(I mean with the probability fair)
checking this thread from time to time as I have already created an account in your site and will wait to deposit and play sooner. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: xSkylarx on September 08, 2022, 09:50:42 AM Your points are taken and are good as well. It shows that you know what you are doing, and I like people that can defend themselves constructively. Ravencoin is not bad though, it's only strange to me for that purpose. Still, it might not matter since it is truly among the 100 top coins, number 89 to be precise. I have checked your site many times, I will consider what you offer personally and might tell others too. Since this is a game of luck, I wish myself luck. Hope to share my good story here later. Ravencoin being in the top 100 is not the only reason why he added it on his platform. He already stated that it can me mined through GPUs so he get those coins for free and use it to test his website freely without spending any amount from his pocket. I'm also guessing those players that used ravencoins is him and the website has no real players yet. Based on his previous posts, he is pretty knowledgeable about the website's development and it would be a hassle for him if he should also be the one taking care of the promotion so hiring someone that is expert on that field will definitely help him if he really want to promote his website. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: decodx on September 08, 2022, 06:47:28 PM I have been thinking about implementing a Provably Fair System as suggested by FatFork. But I can't think of how to do it with multiple simultaneous players and an undetermined number range until draw time. It can be applied to dice or roulette games, because they have a determined range of numbers. In my opinion, that's a lame excuse. The fact is that a large majority of crypto casinos and lotteries have successfully incorporated provably fair mechanisms into their processes. It looks like you haven't done enough research, and you're just saying all kinds of nonsense. notblox1 asked you a question the first day you opened this topic and you still haven't given a concrete answer: How do we know that numbers are selected truly random and how can this be verified? It's not hard for someone to create a lottery website and show any numbers they want saying they are random. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: livingfree on September 08, 2022, 09:07:26 PM Im not here to welcome this as OP isn't showing interest in advertising nor talking to the community about the project and this is gambling and much risky for everyone . He might be late but he already replied and thanking everyone who has suggestions to them.so with this I am going to formally welcome them here in Bitcointalk and might ask for more transparency and activities here and in the whole gambling section . I have been thinking about implementing a Provably Fair System as suggested by FatFork. Well, as said by decodx. You should really apply provably fair into it because the majority of the casinos that has been operating and had a thread in here have that feature.But I can't think of how to do it with multiple simultaneous players and an undetermined number range until draw time. It can be applied to dice or roulette games, because they have a determined range of numbers. And that's what the gamblers like, to have provably fair in your games. Because it guarantees each gambler or customer that it's being implemented and the casino they're playing at has it. Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries �� Post by: Lottocryptos on September 08, 2022, 09:24:45 PM I have been thinking about implementing a Provably Fair System as suggested by FatFork. But I can't think of how to do it with multiple simultaneous players and an undetermined number range until draw time. It can be applied to dice or roulette games, because they have a determined range of numbers. In my opinion, that's a lame excuse. The fact is that a large majority of crypto casinos and lotteries have successfully incorporated provably fair mechanisms into their processes. It looks like you haven't done enough research, and you're just saying all kinds of nonsense. notblox1 asked you a question the first day you opened this topic and you still haven't given a concrete answer: How do we know that numbers are selected truly random and how can this be verified? It's not hard for someone to create a lottery website and show any numbers they want saying they are random. I have not said that it is impossible, but that in the way that they have indicated to me it is not possible. I can't create the full seed of the random number when starting the lottery because then the number would be predictable. Perhaps i could create the first part of the seed of the random number when the lottery starts and the other part of the transaction id of the last player, when new players are no longer allowed. What is your opinion about this solution? Title: Re: 🍀 LOTTOCRYPTOS - Multi crypto Lotteries 💰 Post by: Lottocryptos on September 19, 2022, 10:16:14 AM I have just added the "Provably Fair" system as suggested.
How the winning number is generated (https://lottocryptos.com/validation/) Example (https://lottocryptos.com/validation/725431582b427675414d57486c6e5a5a4475652f5366514a4b35683052325961546e424a446c75597977507255764948316f6e2f5162525a305a6a364756687a4e4c6a764f566d4b64726d484838375a6332354b575377752b4a4c3970447a2b65754c7745336746475853626e7271414a684b675548654e75757779656375495038524951724371635141576e586b6d39662f5a5a317771716b514f31616e566f743371396570324e574166324d5748364f35646b68416b707a6e34456e58595749467635423764587257787a2b366248324c65375232626a4f3377367755693056625657696159432f7859782f534136544a7644515a755879363143475a68426a4571464437445172754e32774633652f34526c744e3047444f6246566f39652f6448356157597a57593d/) At first it sounded strange ??? to me to give the winning number in advance, then on second thought it made sense. Is the new system ok, any other suggestions? |