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So i feel generous and i would like to give someone 25 bucks in litecoin am I allowed to do that? No rules nothing to do

the giveaway threads are posted in games and rounds board[1] but the sticky there[2] says that if your payment is in altcoins you have to post it in Bounties (Altcoins) board[3].

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341846.0
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0

No, unfortunately it is not allowed to do that on the forum. You can do giveaways off-site (for example, google form) and post a link in this thread, but you can't give people any incentive for replying to your thread.

If you're OK with accepting entries via PM or off-site (e.g. via Google Forms) as opposed to posting them in one or more threads (which isn't allowed), yeah, you are. Post it in Bounties (Altcoins).

I've just looked it up and from what I see:
* In Bounties (Altcoins) one of the pinned posts tells "Giveaway threads are not allowed"
* OP has tried to start a giveaway (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5412920), but
** somebody has ignored OP request (for PM) and answered with address
** the whole topic got removed (found topic 5412920 in modlog)

While I understand that the rules are there to avoid mindless spam, I also feel for users like OP and maybe we can do something about it.
I mean, look at the sheer number of (nice!) raffles in collectible section. Maybe we should somehow find a solution for this?


Giveaway with no rules means some may create 100s of new accounts to participate. Maybe you want to do better  ;)

AFAIK I didn't remove that thread. If it were up to me, I would've just deleted the post with the address (as well as any subsequent posts of such nature).

If this sounded like an attack or complaint, apologies for that, it's not intended.
My intention is to give all the details, be constructive, see what we can do, since it's not the first request like this (although I also agree they're were very few), especially as I expect OP is disappointed by how the things have gone.

At first I was thinking that it is merit giveaway promo that you are about do and when I checked your Merits. I confused but later I came to understand that it is coin giveaway.
I believed you are allowes but Please do not throw it away. There are some people that 25 litecoins, even in this irfan_pak10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411358.0) people are hustling to have that number to feed their stomach or family. although there a lot of giveaway threads in the forum but use it to help the most needies.

I feel that there should be a giveaway subforum under Bounties. Since that section doesn't sound appropriate for giveaways, many people who wrongly post them elsewhere might risk seeing their threads go poof or worse, get suspended.
 
Also, those GAs might even be drowned out by other bounty threads.

Alternatively, instead of giving away Litecoin, Mitch212 could use an instant exchanger (such as FixedFloat) and convert it to Bitcoin. That way, he's allows to make an on-forum giveaway in Games and Rounds (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0).

I tried: Suggestion: allow on-forum altcoin giveaways for established altcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235685.0). It didn't happen.

Unless you ask them to post the same "proof of authentication" BS in dozens of threads, then it's totally fine ::)

I get why on-forum altcoin giveaways were banned: it lead to huge spam. But considering the millions upon millions of useless bounty posts, I don't think giving away some actual value in any altcoin would be worse than that.

Exactly. An altcoin like LTC is miles better than shitcoin XYZ anyday.

In as far as I commend your generosity, it's unwise to do giveaway without taking some criteria into consideration. Although it is your wish to do it in a way that suit you but I would advise you to set certain criteria in order to minimize spam and of course to allow the less privilege benefit from it. It will go a long way for people here also fund raising for flood disaster in Pakistan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411358.0).

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The above is just a recommendation and not trying to make you act against your wish.

You can't do an altcoin giveaway and call it a giveaway, but you can call it a bounty, post it in the bounty section, and have the applicants complete a meaningless task like following you on Telegram/Twitter or something like that. Bounty reports are also allowed, so you can ask them to post proof in your bounty thread that the task was completed. After that, it's up to you to decide who gets the Litecoin bounty.

Not really: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3953664.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3953664.0).

So asking a single retweet isn't allowed, but spamming Twitter 50 times (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410758.msg60918854#msg60918854) is okay? Maybe theymos just really hates Twitter and Facebook :D

The "no low effort tasks" thing is meant to prohibit attempts at bypassing the "no altcoin giveaways" rule. And, naturally, anything that's not prohibited or restricted is allowed so yeah.

Thinking out of the box here: how about 50 pushups?

If the participant can prove he did it in his entry, sure. Couldn't really call doing 50 pushups AND creating as well as uploading proof for it low effort.

Honestly, I don't understand why there's a rule against it. If someone has good intention to bless others with a raffle or freebies, it shouldn't be stopped. I guess something must've happened in the past that made theymos institute that restriction to forestall a further abuse of opening threads for giveaways but we should realize that times have changed and I think that ban should be revisited and reviewed.

Yes, there should be rules guiding such activity. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There should exist a mechanism to sieve through or punishment when offenders are caught just like what happens with those who abuse campaigns with alts.

Yes, you have two options here.  I hope you think seriously on these two options and not just canel the idea of giving the giveaway to the community.



If still, this does not suit you, you may donate the giveaway amount here [Donations] Fundraising for the Floods  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411358.0) 
This can be the best use of giveaway :) :)

That's most probably because any low value project would start making such giveaways - for advertising purpose - handing out some shitcoins or tokens with no value.

It's easy nowadays to camouflage bad intentions as good intentions. I guess that this is the way many scams actually work.

Woah I didnt know this thread gonna blow up, I got a bit confused how can I give it away? it doesnt matter if its in LTC/BTC/ETH I can do top 10 coins without a problem so please quote me after this what I should do thank you all <3

In that case, two options could be applied to counter such deception – first, low ranked accounts shouldn't be allowed to announce freebies. Secondly, the freebies should be offered in BTC or any stable or tradable tokens.

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Sounds like a more tempting offer now. I hope someone directs you alright now that you've listed some reputable coins for it. I wish you good luck.

In that case, to avoid potential problems to yourself and the participants, the best thing to do is just host the altcoin giveaway away from the forum like you mentioned in one of your quotes. No on-forum signups or reports. The giveaway can be announced in the bounty section with clear instructions that those interested HAVE TO sign up elsewhere or show their interest over PM, social media, etc. The thread could even be locked to prevent those who can't read two sentences from registering and asking for free coins. 

@mprep would that be allowed?

In that case, the most obvious solution is to organize a BTC giveaway and publish it in Games and rounds (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0), or alternatively, in the Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0) section if you want participants to complete some tasks.

ETH and LTC giveaways are more complicated due to the "no altcoin giveaways" rule. Hope this helps.

• If you want to give away LTC or some other altcoin, start a thread in Bounties (Altcoins), say you only accept entries via PM (and that entries posted in the thread are invalid). Make sure the warning can be clearly seen so a moderator doesn't mistakenly delete your thread.
• If you want to give away BTC, post it in Games and Rounds (a sub-board under Gambling) and accept entries how you want (post in the thread, PM you, via Google forms, etc)

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Yes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413258.new#new

Giveaway is up I hope i didnt break any rule, thank you all