Title: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: Cryptornd on September 17, 2022, 06:09:25 AM *Before the merge Mining pool Hash rate Ethermine - 124.4 TH/s F2pool2 - 76.5 TH/s Hiveon pool - 42 TH/s 2miners - 35.8 TH/s Flexpool - 27.6 TH/s *After the merge staking pool staked Eth % lido 31 Coinbase 15 kraken 8.38 Binance 6.64 stake .us 2.98 Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: NotATether on September 17, 2022, 09:51:27 AM So all they accomplished with the merge is the transfer of power from miners to exchanges (who are much MORE likely to collude than miners since nobody can stop them from doing a 51% attack. The hell, lido can even do that right now if they wanted to).
Job well done devs. /facepalm Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: BlackHatCoiner on September 17, 2022, 10:12:16 AM So all they accomplished with the merge is the transfer of power from miners to exchanges Not only this, but it's now far more likely to have the voting power stolen, and have a 51% attack conducted without the exchanges' permission. Think of this: Someone hacks lido and gets the coins. Simple, common, likely scenario. With 31% of the staked coins, they can first and foremost keep them staked to earn the sweet bucks, and secondly, they can attack with zero cost. But, no problem. Ethereum isn't censorship resistant. The devs will just fork the chain. :) Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: FP91G on September 17, 2022, 12:51:43 PM Bitcoin
Foundrydigital.com 26.3 % antpool.com 17.2% f2pool.com 16.2% binance.com 12.2% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 = 43.5% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 + f2pool.com 16.2 = 59.7% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 + f2pool.com 16.2 + binance.com 12.2 = 71.9% https://miningpoolstats.stream/bitcoin Is it worse here or not? Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: adaseb on September 17, 2022, 01:29:23 PM Bitcoin Foundrydigital.com 26.3 % antpool.com 17.2% f2pool.com 16.2% binance.com 12.2% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 = 43.5% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 + f2pool.com 16.2 = 59.7% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 + f2pool.com 16.2 + binance.com 12.2 = 71.9% https://miningpoolstats.stream/bitcoin Is it worse here or not? Its been like this for years however with Bitcoin mining. Every once in a while some pool gains popularity that it needs to increase pool fees to make miners switch to a different pool. In the past they were many times when a pool had >51% hashrate and nothing happened. Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: JeromeTash on September 17, 2022, 08:04:32 PM https://miningpoolstats.stream/bitcoin Which one is easier and cheaper to pull off?Is it worse here or not? A 51% attack on bitcoin POW network involving different individual miners in pools or 51% attack on ETH POS network, whereby centralized exchanges that can easily be forced to bend down and lick Government asses are clearly in control right now? Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: sp_ on September 17, 2022, 09:48:56 PM Ethereum has dropped 20% after the Merge
Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: JayDDee on September 17, 2022, 10:43:20 PM A 51% attack on bitcoin POW network involving different individual miners in pools or 51% attack on ETH POS network, whereby centralized exchanges that can easily be forced to bend down and lick Government asses are clearly in control right now? In most countries Government control would help prevent fly-by-night exchanges. Storing crypto on an exchange has never been safe and still isn't. Worse, Ethereum is an autocracy and has always been one. The rules can be changed at a whim. Once all the coins are locked up the rules can be changed again with no way to bail out for those who disagree. Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: sp_ on September 17, 2022, 10:57:50 PM In most countries Government control would help pent fly-by-night exchanges. Ethereum was payed and created by the government.. Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: JayDDee on September 17, 2022, 10:59:24 PM In most countries Government control would help pent fly-by-night exchanges. Ethereum was payed and created by the government.. Which goverment? Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: sp_ on September 17, 2022, 11:03:16 PM Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: joniboini on September 18, 2022, 10:16:49 AM The distribution is really terrible. I hope they can develop a new mechanism in place to prevent exchanges or pools to gain control of the network easily. Considering how often pools or exchanges got hacked, the risk is really not small. Even if they never want to attack the network, someone could "easily" hack them and do it.
Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: FP91G on September 18, 2022, 10:31:43 AM Bitcoin Foundrydigital.com 26.3 % antpool.com 17.2% f2pool.com 16.2% binance.com 12.2% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 = 43.5% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 + f2pool.com 16.2 = 59.7% Foundrydigital.com 26.3 + antpool.com 17.2 + f2pool.com 16.2 + binance.com 12.2 = 71.9% https://miningpoolstats.stream/bitcoin Is it worse here or not? Its been like this for years however with Bitcoin mining. Every once in a while some pool gains popularity that it needs to increase pool fees to make miners switch to a different pool. In the past they were many times when a pool had >51% hashrate and nothing happened. Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: JeromeTash on September 18, 2022, 07:45:41 PM The distribution is really terrible. I hope they can develop a new mechanism in place to prevent exchanges or pools to gain control of the network easily. Considering how often pools or exchanges got hacked, the risk is really not small. Even if they never want to attack the network, someone could "easily" hack them and do it. I agree, and I wonder how they did not see this coming, especially after seeing what has always happened to all other POS coins. It's just a way of giving powers to whales and centralized custodial services, so long as they can manage to stake lots of ETH.I hope the catastrophe that struck LUNA won't revisit ETH. Title: Re: Ethereum miner statistics before the merge and after the merge Post by: philipma1957 on September 19, 2022, 12:08:42 AM *Before the merge Mining pool Hash rate Ethermine - 124.4 TH/s F2pool2 - 76.5 TH/s Hiveon pool - 42 TH/s 2miners - 35.8 TH/s Flexpool - 27.6 TH/s *After the merge staking pool staked Eth % lido 31------------- frozen for the next year and change Coinbase 15-------------frozen for the next year and change kraken 8.38----------frozen for the next year and change Binance 6.64----------frozen for the year year and change stake .us 2.98----------frozen for the next year and change so all that staked shit is frozen solid as for your pools viabtc had a lot and I have no idea when you pool stats were taken. eth was almost 999th you are posting only 300th plus the fact is a miner could move around from pool to pool staked coins are frozen till 2024 and eth is slowly dropping now under 1350 with zero reason to rise. mr vb has burnt 25 million a day in liquid gross income. for about 2 million a day in frozen income. net loss of 23million a day or 8.395 billion a year burnt actually way way way more than this because the mining income is constantly churned and move while the staked income is frozen solid. |