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Title: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Majestic-milf on September 19, 2022, 08:17:07 AM
Up till this day, no one knows much about the founder and creator of Bitcoin. Although he's famous for introducing the cryptocurrency in 2008 and also creating the Genesis block, but that's all the information on him one could get.

 But now a hunt to know more about the pseudonymous Satoshi has begun in earnest and after much collation of facts from his 539 BTC posts, 34 emails, 169 code commits, meta data from all version of Bitcoin he has worked on by researchers, still the search proved to yield no result until a recent research gotten from the Chain bulletin of an editorial which indicated that the first block chain activity was conducted in London.
 
 Doncho Karaivanov, a text and code writer revealed that the research was data driven and seemed to cover all 742 instances from 206 days. And this time stamp was able to cover from Halloween of October 31, 2008 to December 13, 2010. Which seems to be the time Satoshi was "seen" last.

Another reason to believe that he is a Londoner is this;
 
https://i.ibb.co/Qj7fY8T/tmp-cam-6825362220170386536.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qj7fY8T)

With all the facts showing his activities, could it be he just resided there to conduct his dealings or he is actually British or is this another mild way of keeping the public guessing?
  https://news.bitcoin.com/new-research-suggests-satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-creating-bitcoin/


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Oshosondy on September 19, 2022, 08:23:39 AM
People should not deceive themselves to think they can conduct a research that could let them know about Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi can be a group of individual which is what I am thinking. Sotishi can be a single person.  But to know this, it would be when Satoshi proves himself to be Satoshi. I do not know why people are so much concerned to know who Satoshi is when Satoshi do not want to let people know him which is one of the reasons bitcoin is different from all other coins.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Pokapoka124 on September 19, 2022, 08:29:34 AM
If you read Satoshi’s posts on bitcointalk, you will find that the user made posts in British English and American English. This post is not sufficient proof to support Satoshi is British, if so then the name Satoshi Nakatomo could be used as a factor to say Satoshi is Japanese. I think Satoshi covered his tracks well, we have never know who’s the real Satoshi Nakamoto and his identity shouldn’t be important.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 19, 2022, 08:29:55 AM
Another reason to believe that he is a Londoner is

While there are valid clues in this direction, other clues go to something way different.
I've read few days ago an analysis made by Jameson Lopp on Satoshi's mining (an interesting read, btw) and one of the conclusions was:

My conclusion is that Satoshi maintained a sleep schedule consistent with someone staying in the Pacific time zone.

So... a Londoner living in LA area or in British Columbia?  :D


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Mbitr on September 19, 2022, 08:55:21 AM
We’ve seen these theories many times, but what I find strange with this one is that they suggest London  ???
The whole of the UK has 1 time zone !!

Quote - “ Karaivanov also concedes by saying that it is impossible to say with “absolute certainty” that London was the precise location. “However, we can say, with reasonable confidence, that he was located in London,” the researcher added.“

Utter nonsense , there is no evidence at all to say where in the UK. Just because London is the largest city and the Genesis block contains the headline from “The Times of London” - The Times is is released all over the UK at the same time.

Just more speculative nonsense


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on September 19, 2022, 09:00:45 AM
I remembered I read some writings about this assumption that Satoshi Nakamoto is British from writing analysis.

I think you can find these topics from I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.msg55077369#msg55077369)

In the topic I read, I also remember that some members discussed that if Satoshi Nakamoto is (are) smart enough to hide identity, it is possible to fake linguistic writing style.

Not this one, but it is an interesting and informative thread. Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Part History, Part Mystery, and a New Solution! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136880.msg50800924#msg50800924)



Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: jesselui on September 19, 2022, 11:26:48 AM
I don't think so, although England is the most active country in the crypto world these days, I don't know if such a man will come out of England at that time. For some reason it looks like a guy from india to me, or one of the big korean and japanese brands.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Agbe on September 19, 2022, 11:38:40 AM
People should not deceive themselves to think they can conduct a research that could let them know about Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi can be a group of individual which is what I am thinking. Sotishi can be a single person.  But to know this, it would be when Satoshi proves himself to be Satoshi. I do not know why people are so much concerned to know who Satoshi is when Satoshi do not want to let people know him which is one of the reasons bitcoin is different from all other coins.

I agree with you to some extent, making research on Satoshi is like making research on bitcoin decentralized digital currency which is not possible. Yes Satoshi Nakamoto could be a group of programmers because of his thread he made mentioned of "we" and that is a plural subject pronoun. That not withstanding, people are free to make research on Satoshi Nakamoto even though they couldn't get the real identity of him, trial and error approach should be conducted on him. Till date people are making research on Adam and Eve and what kind of Apple did Eve ate. Therefore, research is endless. As for me I believed Satoshi Nakamoto is from America not British. One thing I discovered in the wisdom of the brilliant people is that if they want to do important thing they did in another land where the IP address of the location will be shown.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: mk4 on September 19, 2022, 11:53:18 AM
Another reason to believe that he is a Londoner is this;
 
https://i.ibb.co/Qj7fY8T/tmp-cam-6825362220170386536.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qj7fY8T)

Pretty weak evidence knowing that it's a famous newspaper in the first place. It's just like saying that Satoshi Nakamoto might be Japanese simply because it's a Japanese name.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on September 19, 2022, 11:56:30 AM
.... sometimes, on one hand, it looks ridiculous and on the other one,stupid!
No one's gonna find out who SATOSHI is unless they find out why he decided to introduce pseudonymity.

Satoshi is very smart to the point that he, she, they could cover thier traces so the truth could not be found in future about its true self.
There are alot of FORMAL reasons why he introduced pseudonymity and decentralization into the system. Also there are PERSONAL reasons too-- like it or not-- which is the same reason why he's in hiding till date. Now if these personal reasons were known,his identity could escalate like wild fire and that would go against the will of his criterion.

I don't even think THEYMOS knows him in person but ,that's another story. 🙂

Cheers,
Sandra👩‍🦱


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Detritus on September 19, 2022, 12:40:19 PM
Up till this day, no one knows much about the founder and creator of Bitcoin. Although he's famous for introducing the cryptocurrency in 2008 and also creating the Genesis block, but that's all the information on him one could get.

 But now a hunt to know more about the pseudonymous Satoshi has begun in earnest and after much collation of facts from his 539 BTC posts, 34 emails, 169 code commits, meta data from all version of Bitcoin he has worked on by researchers, still the search proved to yield no result until a recent research gotten from the Chain bulletin of an editorial which indicated that the first block chain activity was conducted in London.
 
 Doncho Karaivanov, a text and code writer revealed that the research was data driven and seemed to cover all 742 instances from 206 days. And this time stamp was able to cover from Halloween of October 31, 2008 to December 13, 2010. Which seems to be the time Satoshi was "seen" last.

Another reason to believe that he is a Londoner is this;
 
https://i.ibb.co/Qj7fY8T/tmp-cam-6825362220170386536.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qj7fY8T)

With all the facts showing his activities, could it be he just resided there to conduct his dealings or he is actually British or is this another mild way of keeping the public guessing?
  https://news.bitcoin.com/new-research-suggests-satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-creating-bitcoin/

While I site right here to watch and worry about my Bitcoin investment, other tend to kill their time worrying about who Satoshi nakamoto is. As long as Bitcoin Blockchain is Decentralised with no interpretation I don't think we should be worrying our ass off to know who Satoshi is. Satoshi may or many not show him self unless Bitcoin has any issues that may require him to reveal his self. But if you ask me, I will say Bitcoin is better with Satoshi remaining undercover.


No one's gonna find out who SATOSHI is unless they find out why he decided to introduce pseudonymity

If Satoshi wants people to know who he is, definitely he will show up but you saying no one gonna find out who Satoshi is, No!. People can actually know Satoshi if he want his identity make known, but that's not all necessary for now if you ask me. Bitcoin is doing just find even with his hidden identity.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on September 19, 2022, 12:52:16 PM
Yes, he could. He could also be American, Japanese, Swiss, Chinese, Greek, Madagascarian, as well as every other resident. There's no evidence he's from London. A newspaper isn't evidence, it's pure speculation. In the same way, I could say he's Japanese because of the mysterious name, or American because most of the cryptographers who were talking in mailing list back then were Americans.

Also, fluent accent doesn't make you necessarily an English.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: worldofcoins on September 19, 2022, 01:05:09 PM
Maybe and maybe won't.
It's hard to predict where exactly satoshi is from. His name seems Japanese or Chinese, but there's also a possibility that he could be from somewhere else.
He created bitcoin as an anonymous cryptocurrency, and not keeping his ID anonymous doesn't connect the dots for me. So it maybe possible he's from somewhere else other than china or japan.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Jemzx00 on September 19, 2022, 01:26:29 PM
Why would anyone bother anymore about who Satoshi Nakamato is? I mean, a lot of theorists and researchers have tried to know who he is yet no one was able to know his identity which only indicates that he doesn't want people to know his identity.

Unfortunately, the data you've provided doesn't really prove whether he is a British Citizen even if what you've provided is indeed correct. It can only mean that he or his team was in London at the time and would not mean that he's a British citizen. I would like to think that the creator of bitcoin is from Japan, based on his name or group. We know how Japanese people are when it comes to technology.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: KaliLinux on September 19, 2022, 01:34:15 PM
Up till this day, no one knows much about the founder and creator of Bitcoin. Although he's famous for introducing the cryptocurrency in 2008 and also creating the Genesis block, but that's all the information on him one could get.

 But now a hunt to know more about the pseudonymous Satoshi has begun in earnest and after much collation of facts from his 539 BTC posts, 34 emails, 169 code commits, meta data from all version of Bitcoin he has worked on by researchers, still the search proved to yield no result until a recent research gotten from the Chain bulletin of an editorial which indicated that the first block chain activity was conducted in London.
 
 Doncho Karaivanov, a text and code writer revealed that the research was data driven and seemed to cover all 742 instances from 206 days. And this time stamp was able to cover from Halloween of October 31, 2008 to December 13, 2010. Which seems to be the time Satoshi was "seen" last.

Another reason to believe that he is a Londoner is this;
 
https://i.ibb.co/Qj7fY8T/tmp-cam-6825362220170386536.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qj7fY8T)

With all the facts showing his activities, could it be he just resided there to conduct his dealings or he is actually British or is this another mild way of keeping the public guessing?
  https://news.bitcoin.com/new-research-suggests-satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-creating-bitcoin/
;D I was trying to see where Satoshi's story is in the picture you attached which was clearly not leading to the site till I copied the link below, I think that could have been done better if you actually wanted the pic to lead us to the site, however, It still baffles me why or what people want to do with knowing who Satoshi is. If he really wanted to be known I believe he or they wouldn't have gone anonymous and I even believe the more people try to find him/her/they the more him/her/they will continue to hide their identity so I just hope people would just leave this alone so I don't even want to think if he was British or stayed or still staying around that location.




Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Gallar on September 19, 2022, 01:41:19 PM
if you look at the name like a Japanese person, it must have something to do with Japanese people in my opinion because Satoshi Nakamoto doesn't know a person's name or group name, so if Satoshi Nakamoto is a group there must be Japanese people or at least one of their members likes them. Japanese countries like anime, but if Satoshi Nakamoto is one person maybe he is not Japanese but he made a Japanese name so that his identity remains safe, but I personally think he is Japanese.  :)


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: arwin100 on September 19, 2022, 01:48:47 PM
Many give their assumptions and opinion about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto but none of them give the 100% proof to verify what they claims or they say about this gossips. So maybe best for you not to take those information heavily and if you are curious to know about this just read those claims then enjoys people discussion since somehow you can read something funny arguments coming from different people.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Hyphen(-) on September 19, 2022, 01:54:31 PM
But to know this, it would be when Satoshi proves himself to be Satoshi.
When will Satoshi prove him/themselves?
What are the signs to know if he/she/they are the real Satoshi?
Many people have shown up here in the forum claiming they are Satoshi, but specific evidence yet about Satoshi; How can we know the Real Satoshi?
What do we want as proof to confirm that?


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: cabron on September 19, 2022, 01:57:43 PM
He could just be someone from finance industry who trades on stock or forex market too. London is a finance center in UK.

Its very timely of Bitcoin to be launched during the 2008 crisis. The arrival of BTC seem carefully planned  that one may think its from CIA. The world is too small for someone to be unnoticed while he was about to released the most valuable technology (blockchain) that will disrupt empires. He really understands the dangers of releasing it so he best just be private.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: 8rch7 on September 19, 2022, 02:01:13 PM
I don't think so, although England is the most active country in the crypto world these days, I don't know if such a man will come out of England at that time. For some reason it looks like a guy from india to me, or one of the big korean and japanese brands.
We will never know who Satoshi really is, because it is very difficult to find Satoshi's identity, let alone those of us who are new to bitcoin, even people who have known bitcoin for a long time never know Satoshi's real identity, he uses a Japanese name, but he posted on the forum in English, he will remain a mystery forever, Satoshi Nakamoto's identity will never be revealed forever.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: bitzizzix on September 19, 2022, 02:16:35 PM
Another reason to believe that he is a Londoner is this;
 
https://i.ibb.co/Qj7fY8T/tmp-cam-6825362220170386536.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qj7fY8T)

Pretty weak evidence knowing that it's a famous newspaper in the first place. It's just like saying that Satoshi Nakamoto might be Japanese simply because it's a Japanese name.
Yes that's very weak evidence, and Satoshi Nakamoto is a name used under a pseudonym, and even though it's a Japanese name, it doesn't mean he's Japanese. And maybe he's just someone, maybe they're the people who developed bitcoin or the team, wrote the bitcoin white paper, and created and implemented the original bitcoin reference implementation.
and as a pseudonym, we cannot guarantee that Satoshi Nakmoto is from a particular country and this is very difficult to solve.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 19, 2022, 02:43:08 PM
But now a hunt to know more about the pseudonymous Satoshi has begun in earnest and after much collation of facts from his 539 BTC posts, 34 emails, 169 code commits, meta data from all version of Bitcoin he has worked on by researchers, still the search proved to yield no result until a recent research gotten from the Chain bulletin of an editorial which indicated that the first block chain activity was conducted in London.
 
Tbh, if Satoshi dont reveal himself none of the researcher  can get him because this people never use their real information as a means of communication.
Therefore the first blockchain activities been conducted in London doesnt mean Satoshi is a Britain and for the record all the idea used by Satoshi is already available in cryptography community.


 
People should not deceive themselves to think they can conduct a research that could let them know about Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi can be a group of individual which is what I am thinking.
According to everything said about Satoshi through what Theymos said. Satoshi is definitely an individual although he have some professional C++ and tech savvy he has once worked with anonymously.

I respected him a great deal. He had an incredible amount of "arrogance" in the sense that he saw seemingly-impossible challenges and believed (correctly) that he could conquer them, but yet he had zero arrogance in the commonly-understood sense. He was willing to give help to and accept help from people who knew and accomplished far less than him on the whole. He treated even me with respect, even though I was a 19-year-old excessively-individualistic idiot in 2010.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Woodie on September 19, 2022, 02:55:36 PM
Lol and I thought everyone thought he was Asian based on the Name build Up??? But Satoshi being British that's a long shot , hope this isn't some Mi7 identity that has been uncovered  :P


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: Doan9269 on September 19, 2022, 03:43:44 PM
With all the facts showing his activities, could it be he just resided there to conduct his dealings or he is actually British or is this another mild way of keeping the public guessing?

The last oart of your statement which i quote just answered your question, have you consider a number of people, articles and all manners of social media misinformations about who Satoshi is a d we all have give no hearing to any including the recent claim by Craig Wright all in the same struggle with effortless claims, yet we all aren't moved by them, and also, what has Satoshi's location got to do with bitcoin and it market price or discussion, are do you want to git him apprehended if ascertained?


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: yhiaali3 on September 19, 2022, 04:28:13 PM
Even if Satoshi was a resident of Britain, it could not be fully confirmed that he was British, he might have used it only as a camouflage, or that he was living there, that is, if we assume that he was one person and not a group of people, no one can, after all, be sure of the character of Satoshi.
Personally, I do not wish the real Satoshi to be found because the mystery of the Bitcoin maker is what makes him so attractive and makes people really interested in Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: goldkingcoiner on September 19, 2022, 05:51:31 PM
The evidence is extremely watered down weak FUDsauce. I would wager that everyone is so invested in Bitcoin and they need some distractions to keep their minds off of selling during scary dips and FUD moments. Who really cares if he is Japanese or British. What is most important is Bitcoin itself. If he, Satoshi Nakamoto would ever make the bold and unnecessary decision to ever show himself, all that might do is put a lot of people into panic mode that he too, is only human and might even "give up" on Bitcoin someday, even though he has no real power over Bitcoin. He does own around what, 5% of the mined Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: brainless on September 19, 2022, 06:11:28 PM
my dear friends
everything in this world have footprint, just need to reverse your brain for find root
get bitcoin core first version v1.0, install and run, and use firewall monitor, you will see v1.0 try to connect server, server root is brazil country, mean, when satoshi (nickname, and i know his real name too :) ) create v1.0 and try to connect local server, for geenrate block 0
if server connection is brazil ip, you can investigate further, ip city state, and university too :)
then collect university prof..'s names, in subject math and others, and check their history,
more tips, person in brazil, phd, came from california/usa, visited japan,  and why went to japan ???,
rest you can research yourself
and dont ask me more Q about this subject
Thankx


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: len01 on September 19, 2022, 06:29:55 PM
no one will ever be able to find out who satoshi really is and maybe the staff members in this forum and possibly even the forum admins are not familiar with satoshi. it's all because part of satoshi's plan to keep his identity secret from the public and so bitcoin still survives to this day to be known in various countries.
but i'm a little surprised why everyone seems to be hunting for information about who satoshi really is and to the point of making fake articles about satoshi being japanese, british and many other such news.
so there's no need to think about such news and i think it's just bullshit news


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: romero121 on September 19, 2022, 07:09:07 PM
We've come across large number of threads which is created to discuss about the identity of Satoshi. Here it is about, Satoshi is from British. As one of the user mentioned through reverse engineering the innovation from him might give the answer. In the past British was ruling all over the world. In that space British English is much known among the Asian countries. Even if he belongs to British, this doesn't gonna make any changes in the network. This is just the users interest to dig and find the past.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: aoluain on September 19, 2022, 08:10:30 PM
Another "Who is Satoshi" thread

There probably hasnt been "hundreds" of threads already but there have been a lot exploring
all sorts of speculation regarding Satoshi's identity.

There are plenty of sites exploring Satoshi's identity, its nothing new and still Satoshi's identity
is a mystery.

https://medium.com/asecuritysite-when-bob-met-alice/satoshi-was-british-1ba1f75cf09c

https://ungeared.com/the-strange-story-of-satoshi-nakamotos-spelling-choices-part-1/

https://towardsdatascience.com/stylometric-analysis-satoshi-nakamoto-294926cdf995



Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: m2017 on September 19, 2022, 08:23:51 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto can be anyone, even a British, at least someone else. Not only the British live in London, people of other nationalities from other countries too. The fact that the first blockchain activity was conducted there doesn't make Satoshi British, if it was one person, and not a group of people behind the pseudonym Nakamoto. Based on this assumption, then all the people behind Satoshi Nakamoto (two, three or more people) are also necessarily British? Sounds like absurdity.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: minairia3 on September 19, 2022, 09:55:46 PM
We don't have any proof yet that Satoshi is a person or a team, so the evidence is too weak to say that he is British or living in the UK. It's really hard or no way to know exactly who the satoshi is, he didn't leave any clues for us. There have been many searches for him before but all seem to be fruitless, tracing the identity of satoshi is really a pointless act. If his identity is exposed this is not good for bitcoin so I don't expect we'll find him and I think he's well aware that if he shows up, there's not only a risk to bitcoin but also to his loved ones. He was able to create bitcoin, which is a great anonymous currency, no one can break or modify it so he can also completely anonymize his identity.


Title: Re: Could the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto be British??
Post by: famososMuertos on September 19, 2022, 09:57:29 PM
The mere fact that you use the "mysterious" adjective SN already enters into speculative terrain, because if we go to the point of the matter in anonymity there are many mysterious users, I think we should start to sow the fair idea of ​​what that individuality that SN represents in the creation of the bitcoin was temporary, its anonymity in posterity is represented in what bitcoin is today and what it will continue to be for everyone who joins the use of bitcoin.