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Title: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 04, 2022, 11:11:13 PM Elon purchased Twitter and claims it's part of Project X.
Any thoughts on what this might mean in the realm of Bitcoin/crypto/web3, if any? Or just perhaps censorship in general as a theme? Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: Vaskiy on October 04, 2022, 11:26:05 PM Upon the Twitter response it looks like he have made plans of more features getting added to Twitter. It looks like he have planned something that could provide access to anything around through a single application. Maybe he's planning to take the position of Google as people reach it for every needs ::)
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 04, 2022, 11:33:42 PM The big hope that I have is that it's blockchain based, which could be Bitcoin based or who knows, but ultimately web3 type technology where people physically own/control their identity, followers, media, etc. So that free market competition reigns supreme and people can exit and enter platforms as they please.
That's my utopia. No idea if it's his vision at all. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: FinneysTrueVision on October 05, 2022, 12:11:29 AM I don't see how you go about integrating crypto and web3 into Twitter in a way that is actually interesting to people. They had the NFT thing and I very rarely see people with hexagon profile pictures anymore. There aren't any web3 features that would get to use Twitter any more than I am right now or that would make me pay a monthly fee for these extra features. I would actually use it less if Twitter became a platform to promote shitcoins.
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: Gyfts on October 05, 2022, 12:27:58 AM Elon is tripping towards the finish line here. He never intended on buying Twitter and wanted to bail out last minute after realizing he overpaid. Perhaps he was interested in completing the deal at a lower price, or wanted to drop the entire thing after he realized there wasn't a way to make it profitable to recoup his cash.
My hope is a decentralized social media platform, the reality will be something much less. Twitter is beyond savable. If you've spent any time reading the content on the platform, the best course of action is nuking it entirely and starting from scratch. The bots, political astroturfing, algorithm manipulation are all too palpable. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: takuma sato on October 05, 2022, 12:36:41 AM Upon the Twitter response it looks like he have made plans of more features getting added to Twitter. It looks like he have planned something that could provide access to anything around through a single application. Maybe he's planning to take the position of Google as people reach it for every needs ::) Yeah im guessing hes going for a decentralized internet browser, youtube alternative, gmail alternative, and social media. Of course, big quantitation marks would need to be put between decentralized since attempts at this have been pretty lame, see the steemit clusterfuck and other derivatives. If it needs it's own token, it will need to prove the game theory cannot be gamed as seen before. I don't see how Bitcoin fits in all of this beside implementing Lightning Network payments natively, that would be cool, however the Bitcoin blockchain is for Bitcoin transactions, not some Elon Musk experiment. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: franky1 on October 05, 2022, 01:11:28 AM buying twitter is an accelerant to creating X
well yea if you buy a 150m users to can easily 'upgrade' them into a new app easier that starting a new app and trying to recruit people the old fashioned way Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: nutildah on October 05, 2022, 05:56:13 AM If it needs it's own token, it will need to prove the game theory cannot be gamed as seen before. I don't see how Bitcoin fits in all of this beside implementing Lightning Network payments natively, that would be cool, however the Bitcoin blockchain is for Bitcoin transactions, not some Elon Musk experiment. I wouldn't worry about it as he'll be using Dogecoin obviously. https://i.imgur.com/57YDnJe.png https://i.imgur.com/tAjgCEx.png Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: EarnOnVictor on October 05, 2022, 06:16:54 AM Elon Musk with his loose month! I am not taking the guy seriously anymore. He likes to play on people's integrity, particularly ardent supporters who only hear go and come like puppies. He should do anything to Twitter as he likes if he eventually purchases it, and stop playing like a child as usual.
I stopped taking the guy seriously when he speedily announced the buying of the microblogging app for $44B with $54.20 per share, only to take a turn and say he doesn't want the deal again as if they are in a banana republic. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 05, 2022, 08:42:29 AM I don't see how you go about integrating crypto and web3 into Twitter in a way that is actually interesting to people. They had the NFT thing and I very rarely see people with hexagon profile pictures anymore. There aren't any web3 features that would get to use Twitter any more than I am right now or that would make me pay a monthly fee for these extra features. I would actually use it less if Twitter became a platform to promote shitcoins. Nothing to do with NFTs for a web3 that matters. It doesn't matter if someone uses a monkey picture or not. The real purpose of a web3 is that you own your content (not your profile picture). That way, if you want to go from twitter to some as of yet unnamed platform, you can go there, all of your data and all of the platform exists elsewhere but on a different front-end. That is what creates real decentralization, real free market competition, real innovation, etc. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: Foxpup on October 05, 2022, 11:32:00 AM As usual, Elon is taking a technology that already exists and acting like he invented it. As a Linux user, I already have an omnipresent app called X (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System) that's awful in every conceivable way but can't be fixed because of how deeply intertwined it is with every other app in existence. How will this new project be any different?
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: NotATether on October 05, 2022, 12:05:26 PM As usual, Elon is taking a technology that already exists and acting like he invented it. As a Linux user, I already have an omnipresent app called X (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System) that's awful in every conceivable way but can't be fixed because of how deeply intertwined it is with every other app in existence. How will this new project be any different? At least I can just blast X into pieces and make a new window system from scratch. Probably what's going to happen to Twitter except it gets blasted to pieces after some competing service is made from scratch. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: nutildah on October 05, 2022, 12:20:41 PM Nothing to do with NFTs for a web3 that matters. It doesn't matter if someone uses a monkey picture or not. The real purpose of a web3 is that you own your content (not your profile picture). That way, if you want to go from twitter to some as of yet unnamed platform, you can go there, all of your data and all of the platform exists elsewhere but on a different front-end. That is what creates real decentralization, real free market competition, real innovation, etc. How do you think those ownership properties will be defined on a digital level? Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 05, 2022, 12:30:17 PM Nothing to do with NFTs for a web3 that matters. It doesn't matter if someone uses a monkey picture or not. The real purpose of a web3 is that you own your content (not your profile picture). That way, if you want to go from twitter to some as of yet unnamed platform, you can go there, all of your data and all of the platform exists elsewhere but on a different front-end. That is what creates real decentralization, real free market competition, real innovation, etc. How do you think those ownership properties will be defined on a digital level? That's a very good question that has multiple viable answers. Having said that, personally speaking, I think the easiest way to do this is to attach any content owned by an individual to their wallet address via a content ID label. And to have the storage for all of the content done in a way that is distributed and anonymized by hosts. This way, blockchain has an identifier as to who owns what, but the bulk of the data storage isn't on the blockchain itself. There are other solutions that could be imagined up. But I think that's a reasonable enough solution for the medium term. As far as wallet control, this can be done one of two ways on this hypothetical social platform. Self-custody of private keys or outsourcing the work to companies. This way, for the vast majority of people that don't know what a private key is, nothing changes. And one could make the argument as to whether or not they truly own anything on a digital level then. But that's a different philosophical question to have, in my opinion. The important part / innovation / improvement for society is that the opportunity exists for individuals who care enough in the first place when it formerly did not. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: nutildah on October 05, 2022, 01:57:14 PM I think the easiest way to do this is to attach any content owned by an individual to their wallet address via a content ID label. And to have the storage for all of the content done in a way that is distributed and anonymized by hosts. This way, blockchain has an identifier as to who owns what, but the bulk of the data storage isn't on the blockchain itself. I kind of see what you're saying but how would items be transferred or sold from one account to another in a way that could be trustless and anonymous? Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 05, 2022, 03:51:38 PM I think the easiest way to do this is to attach any content owned by an individual to their wallet address via a content ID label. And to have the storage for all of the content done in a way that is distributed and anonymized by hosts. This way, blockchain has an identifier as to who owns what, but the bulk of the data storage isn't on the blockchain itself. I kind of see what you're saying but how would items be transferred or sold from one account to another in a way that could be trustless and anonymous? I don't know enough about blockchain technology to be able to answer this question sufficiently. That said, part of your question is a little bit weird. Because if I make a post on Facebook / Twitter/ YouTube etc, I cannot sell this post/content from Facebook to another user. That's not how the platforms work. What you own is the account, i.e. the Twitter log-in and all of it's posting history, followers, etc. And if you felt that you would rather take your business away from the Twitter front-end over to Twitter2, you could, because you own your assets and there's no loss in followers/content/anything, because it's just as visible on Twitter2 as it is on Twitter. Now, hypothetically, getting back to your question, could individual items / content IDs be sold off? Perhaps/probably? I guess that's a design question, you'd have to ask someone with more expertise than myself. But that's also very much not the point I was initially making nor how things presently work as I already said. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: OgNasty on October 05, 2022, 05:37:51 PM Elon purchased Twitter and claims it's part of Project X. Any thoughts on what this might mean in the realm of Bitcoin/crypto/web3, if any? Or just perhaps censorship in general as a theme? I don't think it means much for Bitcoin or web3, but likely crypto will receive a boost in the form of giving Doge a real usage case. I imagine his everything app will be like Uber/DoorDash/Facebook/Robinhood/Tesla/(insert favorite news app here) all rolled in one. You'll be able to order food and trade stocks from the same app you use to get your news and make social media posts. You'll be able to see how many calories you've taken in and how much you've slept from the same app that calls your car to pick you up or monitor your home's electrical use. All of this will likely be done on a Tesla phone and who knows, maybe it'll be free with subsidies (for lower bandwidth model) and not have a monthly service fee because it runs on free satellites. I've actually been saying this will happen for a while now, so it's interesting to see Elon drop hints that it's under development. By 2030, I expect that the Tesla phone will be as popular as the iPhone. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: nutildah on October 06, 2022, 01:42:39 AM Now, hypothetically, getting back to your question, could individual items / content IDs be sold off? Perhaps/probably? I guess that's a design question, you'd have to ask someone with more expertise than myself. But that's also very much not the point I was initially making nor how things presently work as I already said. "Owning your own content" implies that one should be able to do whatever they want with it, does it not? TBH the point I was getting at was there is already a blockchain-based technology in place to allow for this to transpire, which is NFTs. Edit: funny that this thread got moved to P&S but not entirely unpredictable. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 06, 2022, 08:28:13 AM Now, hypothetically, getting back to your question, could individual items / content IDs be sold off? Perhaps/probably? I guess that's a design question, you'd have to ask someone with more expertise than myself. But that's also very much not the point I was initially making nor how things presently work as I already said. "Owning your own content" implies that one should be able to do whatever they want with it, does it not? TBH the point I was getting at was there is already a blockchain-based technology in place to allow for this to transpire, which is NFTs. Edit: funny that this thread got moved to P&S but not entirely unpredictable. To break it down, perhaps that's possible. Presently, with any account almost anywhere in the world, you are renting your account, you do not own the account. I would like people to have the ability to own their account. Perhaps, it's possible, they could also piece off parts of their account. Sounds scientifically possible. Also yeah, I saw they moved it yesterday. I think if Elon were to do something blockchain related, there's a serious chance Bitcoin is involved. But maybe the overall doubt is too high so off it went. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: Xeon on October 06, 2022, 12:05:02 PM im guessing hes going for a decentralized internet browser, youtube alternative, gmail alternative, and social media. Of course, big quantitation marks would need to be put between decentralized since attempts at this have been pretty lame, see the steemit clusterfuck and other derivatives. If it needs it's own token, it will need to prove the game theory cannot be gamed as seen before. I don't see how Bitcoin fits in all of this beside implementing Lightning Network payments natively, that would be cool, however the Bitcoin blockchain is for Bitcoin transactions, not some Elon Musk experiment. It would be weird, but it wouldn't be the first one to try it. If there are other social media places in the world, like twitter, instagram, tik tok etc etc, and then he wants to change the world by creating that "x" he is talking about, having twitter and implementing that to the idea would be a lot better.He could buy out like brave or something, and then buy out vimeo or something, basically the already there stuff, that way he would have a lot of people working on these things, he could buy out telegram or discord or whatever too, so with the chat app, and then he would be able to build them all together in a single thing, it's much better than creating a brand new one of each. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: Iroh on October 06, 2022, 02:42:22 PM After becoming twitter largest shareholder and now talks about buying twitter after the failed attempt, he’s now suggesting that anyone who signs up for twitter blue would get an authentication checkmark.
Personally, I think he should just leave twitter alone and start his own platform. Hopefully his platform would be as successful as Trumps truth social. 😅 Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: Kavelj22 on October 06, 2022, 05:39:54 PM In the latest updates regarding the crisis between Twitter and Elon Musk, Elon Musk's lawyers again demanded more data on non-original or automated accounts on the Twitter platform, and on how to calculate the number of users from whom revenue can be derived and those who are active daily. This comes about two weeks before a Delaware court hears the Twitter case that seeks to compel Musk to acquire it, which is scheduled for October 17.
At the same time, Twitter's lawyers announced that analysts hired by Elon Musk had failed to prove that the proportion of fake accounts on Twitter was much higher than those announced by the network, and this is the main argument used by Elon Musk to justify his retreat from the purchase of the platform. Source: an article (https://www.france24.com/ar/%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AA%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%AF/20220929-%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B1-%D8%AA%D8%AA%D9%87%D9%85-%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A8%D9%87%D9%85-%D8%A5%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%83-%D8%A8%D9%80-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%B4%D9%84-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF-%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%81%D8%A9) published on France 24. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: NotATether on October 06, 2022, 08:48:12 PM I don't think it means much for Bitcoin or web3, but likely crypto will receive a boost in the form of giving Doge a real usage case. I imagine his everything app will be like Uber/DoorDash/Facebook/Robinhood/Tesla/(insert favorite news app here) all rolled in one. You'll be able to order food and trade stocks from the same app you use to get your news and make social media posts. You'll be able to see how many calories you've taken in and how much you've slept from the same app that calls your car to pick you up or monitor your home's electrical use. All of this will likely be done on a Tesla phone and who knows, maybe it'll be free with subsidies (for lower bandwidth model) and not have a monthly service fee because it runs on free satellites. If that's his goal, then he is late to the party. Tencent already beat him years ago (WeChat does all those things and then some). Quote By 2030, I expect that the Tesla phone will be as popular as the iPhone. I just see hype here. Steve Jobs solved a real problem in 2007 - make the phone a mini computer with easy input. Pi Phone doesn't innovate anything. In fact, no subsequent phone including newer iPhones have innovated anything. Pi Phone's biggest (or should I say only) selling point is combining all of Musk's pet projects into one. At best it will crush all Android phones, given that OS development is absolutely laborious and taking the usual "build many startups at a time" approach to operating systems will just make an engineering disaster, so he'll probably just reuse a re-skinned Android on that thing (so that people don't think it's actually Android). Apple has too strong of a cult for a single corp to break through it, without their own army of followers - Musk doesn't have that of course, it's only applicable to companies, and all his companies are vying with each other for attention. It's possible you can be a Tesla fan but not a Neuralink or SpaceX fan. Your position would be one of indifference to them all, and also to Musk. Competing against a single company is kind of like maintaining a war front - there's only so many fronts an army can hold at once, so attempting to compete against all these companies (including Apple) will not end well for his plans. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: Moneyprism on October 07, 2022, 02:43:42 AM it seems that twitter will become a web3-based social media platform and more friendly,, but in my opinion this is still an ordinary social media where censorship is still there,, even though it is not as massive as before,, but it is better.. there is no new innovation in this and this will be new cash field for Musk
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 24, 2022, 05:11:35 AM Well, we know what it is now. It's "BlueSky" from the "AT Protocol"
https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/10-18-2022-the-at-protocol It will be built off of Bitcoin. And will function a lot like LBRY. It remains to be seen if it's a base layer, of that base layer is open etc. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: BADecker on October 27, 2022, 03:21:19 PM Musk is teasing twitter employees by talking about firing 75% of them as he takes over.
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/001-1026202904-Elon-Sink.jpg 'Let That Sink In' - Elon Musk Barges Into Twitter HQ Ahead Of Deal Close (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334617-2022-10-26-let-that-sink-in-elon-musk-barges-into-twitter-hq.htm) Quote from: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-employees-beg-reckless-musk-not-fire-them-demand-dignity Twitter employees have penned an open letter to soon-to-be boss Elon Musk and the Board of Directors begging to keep their jobs, after the Washington Post reported that Musk is planning to get rid of nearly 75% of the company's 7,500 workers - whittling Twitter down to a 'skeleton' staff of just over 2,000. https://twitter.com/i/status/1585341984679469056 ... 8) Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: NotATether on October 27, 2022, 04:02:50 PM Musk is teasing twitter employees by talking about firing 75% of them as he takes over. https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/001-1026202904-Elon-Sink.jpg 'Let That Sink In' - Elon Musk Barges Into Twitter HQ Ahead Of Deal Close (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334617-2022-10-26-let-that-sink-in-elon-musk-barges-into-twitter-hq.htm) Quote from: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-employees-beg-reckless-musk-not-fire-them-demand-dignity Twitter employees have penned an open letter to soon-to-be boss Elon Musk and the Board of Directors begging to keep their jobs, after the Washington Post reported that Musk is planning to get rid of nearly 75% of the company's 7,500 workers - whittling Twitter down to a 'skeleton' staff of just over 2,000. https://twitter.com/i/status/1585341984679469056 ... 8) First of all is that a fucking sink he's holding? :D Second, I think the layoffs are good - Twitter has been an inter-government spyhouse for a long time now (think S.H.I.E.L.D, but populated by agents from many governments all competing against each other) so it's good that all the rubbish who are just stealing company data for governments are being cut out. Third: https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/10-18-2022-the-at-protocol At least it's not "Skynet" :) Looks like a Web3 social network. I've joined the waitlist, and hopefully the app doesn't let me down like CoPilot. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: BADecker on October 27, 2022, 07:11:32 PM Wouldn't it be nice if Musk could buy Youtube? But even if he tried, the cost would be prohibitive... even for Musk. So, fast forward to Youtube 2... well not quite. But how about adding a Youtube-like program to twitter?
Elon Musk Confirms Plan to Add Youtube Clone to Twitter (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334625-2022-10-27-elon-musk-confirms-plan-to-add-youtube-clone-to-twitter.htm) Quote from: https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/10/elon-musk-confirms-plan-to-add-youtube-clone-to-twitter.html Nextbigfuture wrote how it would be simple to combine Starlink generation 2 backhaul bandwidth capabilities to enable video with Twitter. SpaceX Starlink just passed 250,000 users in April and is now about 1 million users. Starlink could be around 1.5 million users by the end of 2022 and could reach 200-300 million users by 2025. The generation 2 Starlink satellites will be able to handle the entire internet. Elon Musk will have space satellites for a global communications backbone. Future Starlink satellites will likely weigh around one ton (~2200 lb) each, be capable of a maximum individual bandwidth of some 60-80 Gbps, and have solar arrays capable of supplying something like 15-20 kilowatts to power an army of antennas. If SpaceX ultimately wins FCC approval, the ~30,000 satellite Starlink Gen2 constellation as proposed would have a total instantaneous bandwidth of at least 500 terabits per second (Tbps) over land (~1800 Tbps including ocean coverage). As of 2020, the total installed bandwidth of global internet infrastructure was estimated to be 600 Tbps. Youtube makes about $25-30 billion of revenue annually. Twitter makes about $4-5 billion in revenue annually. SpaceX has talked about launching Gen 2 satellites twice a month in 2023. This would enable SpaceX to have thousands of Gen 2 satellites in orbit by the end of 2023. This would enable direct orbit to earth text and voice communication service for hundreds of million people (a few million at a time). It would also mean about ten to twenty percent of the complete Gen 2 infrastructure. This would be about 200-300 Tbps of global bandwidth. ... 8) Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 28, 2022, 11:25:58 AM Wouldn't it be nice if Musk could buy Youtube? But even if he tried, the cost would be prohibitive... even for Musk. So, fast forward to Youtube 2... well not quite. But how about adding a Youtube-like program to twitter? Well... this is what BlueSky / ATProtocol is perhaps attempting to fix. It won't even require him to buy YouTube but will instead open the marketplace up. This could just ruin YouTube / Facebook etc. A layer zero type protocol that will allow other projects to join. The biggest blockchain competitor to YouTube by a mile is LBRY / Odysee. That could integrate into the ATProtocol and host on BlueSky / Twitter. And then Twitter can bootstrap all of the other competitors that join on chain. And people could freely move from one protocol to the other seamlessly through a single account they control web3 style. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Maestro75 on October 28, 2022, 03:42:35 PM Elon purchased Twitter and claims it's part of Project X. Any thoughts on what this might mean in the realm of Bitcoin/crypto/web3, if any? Or just perhaps censorship in general as a theme? He should go ahead and also buy Telegram and WhatsApp too so all their interrupted services and scam activities will become checked. Elon has a magic touch to things. He is a successful businessman who knows how to make things work out. There is no need for anyone to accuse him of hiding behind anything to buy Twitter. He has a right to buy any property he wants provided he has the money for it. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Gyfts on October 28, 2022, 04:35:39 PM ... This list of fired employees, including some top executives is, but not limited to: CEO Parag Agrawal CFO Ned Segal and General counsel Sean Edgett Legal and policy exec Vijaya Gadde Their unemployment journey won't last long. Another tech company will gladly scoop them all up for them to inflict their cancer on whatever platform. It's time to unban the twitter accounts that were censored - I'm hoping for Dr. Robert Malone soon. Maybe even Orange Hitler can come back if he's willing to ditch Truth Social. Doesn't seem like he wants to leave it though. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: nutildah on October 28, 2022, 05:54:26 PM The biggest blockchain competitor to YouTube by a mile is LBRY / Odysee. That could integrate into the ATProtocol and host on BlueSky / Twitter. And then Twitter can bootstrap all of the other competitors that join on chain. And people could freely move from one protocol to the other seamlessly through a single account they control web3 style. LOL bro what are u thinking, obviously he will put DOGE at the forefront of any crypto-related anything he'll do with Twitter. I wouldn't worry about it as he'll be using Dogecoin obviously. https://i.imgur.com/57YDnJe.png https://i.imgur.com/tAjgCEx.png Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 28, 2022, 06:19:22 PM That's true. Binance put themselves in for $500M of the Twitter purchase. So they are clearly going to do a lot of various crypto integrations into Twitter, Doge will be part of it. How big compared to the bigs like BTC/ETH is really just anyone's guess presently.
I seriously doubt that Doge will be front and center. I would imagine that aggro play would be to have BTC, ETH and DOGE front and center and anything else moved back, if Elon wanted to go that route. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: BADecker on October 28, 2022, 06:21:15 PM ... This list of fired employees, including some top executives is, but not limited to: CEO Parag Agrawal CFO Ned Segal and General counsel Sean Edgett Legal and policy exec Vijaya Gadde Their unemployment journey won't last long. Another tech company will gladly scoop them all up for them to inflict their cancer on whatever platform. It's time to unban the twitter accounts that were censored - I'm hoping for Dr. Robert Malone soon. Maybe even Orange Hitler can come back if he's willing to ditch Truth Social. Doesn't seem like he wants to leave it though. If Musk is truly going for less censoring, and if Trump truly comes back to twitter, does that mean that Trump necessarily has to ditch Truth Social. Why not use both for a variety of things? The Firings Begin: Twitter CEO, CFO, & Top Censor Escorted Out (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334698-2022-10-28-the-firings-begin-twitter-ceo-cfo-top-censor-escorted-out.htm) Quote from: https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/firings-begin-twitter-ceo-cfo-top-censor-escorted-out Just minutes after the world's richest man has reportedly closed the $44 billion deal, The NYTimes reports that, according to sources that declined to be identified, the Twitter executives who were fired include: Parag Agrawal, Twitter's chief executive, Ned Segal, the chief financial officer, Sean Edgett, the general counsel, and Vijaya Gadde, the top legal and policy executive, (or censorship czar). We suspect she was first on the list given this tweet from Musk earlier in the year... As a reminder, having been with Twitter since 2011, Gadde was the key executive in charge of 'trust and safety, legal and public policy functions' - described by Politico as the company's "moral authority." Gadde holds one of the most controversial positions at Twitter: Her teams decide how to moderate content. That's made her a target of right-wing criticism, particularly when Twitter blocked the distribution of a New York Post article about President Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, in 2020. She faced a renewed wave of criticism after multiple reports confirmed she was behind the decision to ban Trump from Twitter. -Politico In other words, Gadde is likely the exec who signed off on ZeroHedge's February 2020 ban for speculating that Covid-19 may have emerged from a Wuhan Lab, and President Trump's January 2021 ban in connection with the capitol riot. ... 8) Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Gyfts on October 28, 2022, 07:14:51 PM I suppose he could. Issue is that he's financially involved with Truth Social, I don't know if he would use both. I'd prefer Trump be back on twitter only to make the far left grifter account/MSM lose their mind. Trump thrives off media attention and he just doesn't get a lot of attention with his posts on Truth Social. If he wants to mobilize for 2024, he needs to get back in the spotlight. Twitter would help him a lot more because everything he says becomes a news story (a double edged sword, of course). On that note: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586059953311137792 Quote Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes. Will this content moderation council allow Trump back? Let it serve as the litmus test for how things will be. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: NotATether on October 28, 2022, 07:26:19 PM Wouldn't it be nice if Musk could buy Youtube? But even if he tried, the cost would be prohibitive... even for Musk. So, fast forward to Youtube 2... well not quite. But how about adding a Youtube-like program to twitter? Elon Musk Confirms Plan to Add Youtube Clone to Twitter (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334625-2022-10-27-elon-musk-confirms-plan-to-add-youtube-clone-to-twitter.htm) Nobody will use it because Twitter Search is already broken (hard to find anything relevant unless you are laser-precise). It would be like Youtube but with only it's front page and channel pages of whoever you are following. Search, which 99% of Youtube users depend on, is simply non-existent in Twitter. Besides, why are they trying to play catch-up with a dinosaur anyway? They should just make another Tiktok clone if that's what they ultimately want to do. On that note: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586059953311137792 Quote Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes. Will this content moderation council allow Trump back? Let it serve as the litmus test for how things will be. Answer: https://i.imgur.com/Pbpiec5.png Shady as hell. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Kavelj22 on October 28, 2022, 08:38:41 PM Finally, an agreement was reached between Elon Musk and the US Department of Defense (SEC) Thursday, to finalize the deal, amounting to 44 billion dollars. This was announced in the international media, which did not mention the details of the trial that the American judiciary was considering.
As soon as he acquired the company, Elon Musk fired many influential officials in the company, and some sources talk about his intention to fire 75 percent of the company's workforce, which is what pushes the workers to hold demonstrations condemning these projects. According to an article published by the British BBC, Elon Musk will lift the ban on all banned accounts, which may push him to clash with the US government if he lifts the ban at the expense of Donald Trump. Link to article on BBC magazine: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63402338 Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 28, 2022, 08:48:32 PM @BADecker, Trump doesn't necessarily have to pick. He could have his platform synced so that a post in once place gets repeated on the other. I don't know if it's set up this way or not currently, but there's no reason it couldn't be.
Overall though, yeah, the move has to be a net negative for Truth Social. The re-skinned socials with no new technology are going to get wrecked. The technologies with innovation over web2 have more fire power, at least in theory. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: OgNasty on October 29, 2022, 03:31:48 PM Dogecoin is on an absolute tear as it seems like the market is expecting Elon to integrate payments into Twitter with Dogecoin being the preferred method. This is pretty huge if it happens and I’m sure Doge fans are over the moon right now. I think this is one of the more impressive stories in crypto at the moment and am very curious how Elon sets up crypto integration with Twitter and of Bitcoin will also be a highlighted option.
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Kavelj22 on October 29, 2022, 05:35:16 PM A layer zero type protocol that will allow other projects to join. The biggest blockchain competitor to YouTube by a mile is LBRY / Odysee. That could integrate into the ATProtocol and host on BlueSky / Twitter. And then Twitter can bootstrap all of the other competitors that join on chain. And people could freely move from one protocol to the other seamlessly through a single account they control web3 style. I think you have broad imaginations filled with optimism about the future of YouTube and Facebook. Do you really think that it is easy to establish a simulation system capable of competing with these two giants? Do you have an understanding of how much this will cost and how long it will take? Of course, taking into account that both companies will not take any step to limit or prevent this from happening. Elon Musk's priority when putting $44 billion to complete the deal cannot be to destroy his rivals in the most sophisticated way. There is a lot that can be done and a lot of profits that can be reaped at different levels, including in the political arena, which lags behind the management of politicians on social media platforms. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: nutildah on October 29, 2022, 06:06:08 PM I seriously doubt that Doge will be front and center. Market begs to differ. https://i.imgur.com/vJzVMgk.png https://i.imgflip.com/6ys8vj.jpg Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 29, 2022, 06:55:17 PM A layer zero type protocol that will allow other projects to join. The biggest blockchain competitor to YouTube by a mile is LBRY / Odysee. That could integrate into the ATProtocol and host on BlueSky / Twitter. And then Twitter can bootstrap all of the other competitors that join on chain. And people could freely move from one protocol to the other seamlessly through a single account they control web3 style. I think you have broad imaginations filled with optimism about the future of YouTube and Facebook. Do you really think that it is easy to establish a simulation system capable of competing with these two giants? Do you have an understanding of how much this will cost and how long it will take? Of course, taking into account that both companies will not take any step to limit or prevent this from happening. Elon Musk's priority when putting $44 billion to complete the deal cannot be to destroy his rivals in the most sophisticated way. There is a lot that can be done and a lot of profits that can be reaped at different levels, including in the political arena, which lags behind the management of politicians on social media platforms. I never said it would be easy. But this is in fact what Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey have already said they are literally doing. So place your own bets on the markets for yourself in alignment with your version of reality. I seriously doubt that Doge will be front and center. Market begs to differ. https://i.imgur.com/vJzVMgk.png https://i.imgflip.com/6ys8vj.jpg Idk if you're joking or being intellectual dishonest but I'm talking about the actual Twitter UI. That probably isn't getting integrated any time soon. Many bigger fish to fry for the moment. Short term DOGE price speculation I never made any comment on. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Kavelj22 on October 30, 2022, 04:48:20 PM This was expected if we take into account that Musk will complete the Twitter deal, which no one thought after the turmoil that occurred between Musk and the company about the percentage of fake accounts and Musk's intention to withdraw from the deal. After the transaction is completed, it is normal for the value of the Dodge coin to increase for the following reasons: - Elon Musk has always supported this currency and says that it is a "popular currency". - Early this year, Tesla has started accepting Dodge coin for the purchase of its electric vehicles and spare parts. - Mask had launched this year a luxury type of perfume that can be purchased using the Dodge coin as well. At the same time, we must not forget that what happened may be a new attempt by Elon Musk to raise the price and achieve profits from a new currency amplification process, as happened in 2021 when its price rose to 0.75 dollars, to return to decline after Musk stopped supporting it, which led to the loss of investors for a lot of money. That strategy was dubbed "Buy the Rumor, Sell the News" by analysts. See this article (https://bitcoinist.com/twitter-will-embrace-doge-crypto-under-elon-musk/) for better understanding. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: OgNasty on October 30, 2022, 07:15:18 PM I have to say that my experience on Twitter has already gotten so much better since the Elon Musk takeover. I'm not seeing the bots posts after every tweet (they're still there apparently but hidden) and stupid comments by liberals that have been considered facts are now being fact checked. Biden, Clinton, Obama... It will be nice seeing corrections of facts on their ridiculous posts instead of having the truth questioned by the far left. It's like the beginning of a new world where you aren't discriminated against for saying that all lives matter or that there are 2 genders... You know, simple things that most people who "trust the science" learn before entering first grade... I love it!
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Gyfts on October 31, 2022, 06:03:12 PM https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/
Leaked conversations from Dept. of Homeland Security show folks at Facebook and Twitter routinely communicated with government officials to drive what sort of content was permissible on the platforms. Included in these monthly communications/meetings was Vijaya Gadde (now fired), head of Twitter's head of Legal, Trust, and Safety, among other heads of companies from Facebook, Microsoft, etc. When they laid out perma bans for the COVID "disinformation," part of it was government bureaucracy detailing what sort of conversations are and aren't permissible. Per The Intercept: Quote DHS plans to target inaccurate information on “the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine.” Right, because the U.S. government should be dictating to all the big tech platforms how the rest of us should think on these controversial and contentious topics. Elon can have his first amendment/pro-free speech outlook on twitter if he'd like, but if the government steps in and forces regulation then he has no option but to comply. I can only assume that he's in the cross hairs. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Marcellin9 on November 10, 2022, 08:03:56 AM Ever since Elon bought Twitter, many things have changed dramatically: half employees are laid off, senior executive officers are fired, users have to pay to give feedback etc. Twitter has never been the same as before. This is Elon's Project X ? Probably. I guess this is only part of what he really wants to do in the future. With what he owns and what he is capable of, I wouldn't be surprised at all if anything big happens some day.
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: worldofcoins on November 13, 2022, 02:22:56 PM Elon purchased Twitter and claims it's part of Project X. Any thoughts on what this might mean in the realm of Bitcoin/crypto/web3, if any? Or just perhaps censorship in general as a theme? We can't precisely predict what is in the mind of Elon Musk, but We can assume that he might have thought of something big, something new, and something which would be better than the existing one. So let's sit, wait and watch what comes next. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Shaha98 on November 16, 2022, 08:57:54 AM Twitter has undergone many updates since Elon Musk took over the Twitter company. I have already noticed on Twitter that many updated news are now available on Twitter which would never have been available in the past had it not been for the bot posts.That's why Twitter now has many updates and many true news and in the past there were many bot posts but now there is no such system which will automatically post. I like it so much that I love twitter more.
Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Popkon6 on November 17, 2022, 04:38:41 AM The Twitter platform has gotten a lot better since Elon Marks bought it. In the past many people have commented on the Twitter company but now Elon Marks has brought many updates. Like there were many bots in the past but now those boards are not visible on Twitter. This point was rejected by Elon Musk. But for all, this point has been very good.
https://i.imgur.com/3wt00fu.jpg Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Cryptock on November 18, 2022, 11:47:26 PM The Twitter platform has gotten a lot better since Elon Marks bought it. In the past many people have commented on the Twitter company but now Elon Marks has brought many updates. Like there were many bots in the past but now those boards are not visible on Twitter. This point was rejected by Elon Musk. But for all, this point has been very good. a lots of resignation since people are not ready to work under Musk supervisionhttps://i.imgur.com/3wt00fu.jpg All the twitter offices are closed - I think there will be new hiring and new people with join in will bring a fresh wave to the twitter Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: sovie on November 18, 2022, 11:57:39 PM Elon purchased Twitter and claims it's part of Project X. Any thoughts on what this might mean in the realm of Bitcoin/crypto/web3, if any? Or just perhaps censorship in general as a theme? We can't precisely predict what is in the mind of Elon Musk, but We can assume that he might have thought of something big, something new, and something which would be better than the existing one. So let's sit, wait and watch what comes next. With lots of resignation - there will be good change in twitter as well Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X Post by: bitgov on November 19, 2022, 12:06:20 AM After becoming twitter largest shareholder and now talks about buying twitter after the failed attempt, he’s now suggesting that anyone who signs up for twitter blue would get an authentication checkmark. Musk has to slow down Personally, I think he should just leave twitter alone and start his own platform. Hopefully his platform would be as successful as Trumps truth social. 😅 Keep some important people in hand if he has to run the company Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Cryptock on November 19, 2022, 11:11:17 PM Twitter has undergone many updates since Elon Musk took over the Twitter company. I have already noticed on Twitter that many updated news are now available on Twitter which would never have been available in the past had it not been for the bot posts.That's why Twitter now has many updates and many true news and in the past there were many bot posts but now there is no such system which will automatically post. I like it so much that I love twitter more. One the member above shared a screenshot which reads he fired his security incharge - I think they should be the last to be fired - security and finance person. That is the backbone of the company should not have been teased at the early stages Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: og kush420 on November 19, 2022, 11:58:23 PM Twitter has undergone many updates since Elon Musk took over the Twitter company. I have already noticed on Twitter that many updated news are now available on Twitter which would never have been available in the past had it not been for the bot posts.That's why Twitter now has many updates and many true news and in the past there were many bot posts but now there is no such system which will automatically post. I like it so much that I love twitter more. That is correct. and I believe in Musk - he will do will like he is doing well in case of Tesla. It is rich peoples choice and people would go crazy for Tesla likewise he will bring good change in Twitter as well. Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: bitgov on November 20, 2022, 03:50:50 AM The Twitter platform has gotten a lot better since Elon Marks bought it. In the past many people have commented on the Twitter company but now Elon Marks has brought many updates. Like there were many bots in the past but now those boards are not visible on Twitter. This point was rejected by Elon Musk. But for all, this point has been very good. I think the same - musk has a great vision although there are now 50 employee left at twitter. https://i.imgur.com/3wt00fu.jpg I am sure there are 50 teslas in making too. their sincerity should be rewarded well Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: Popkon6 on November 30, 2022, 04:58:53 AM Twitter and Bitcoin are winning 🤣
https://i.imgur.com/OTp6TI3.jpg https://twitter.com/MemeingBitcoin/status/1597783850335469568?t=WCP5LEXlqQ51NvQfYWRE3Q&s=19 Title: Re: Elon Buys Twitter - Project X (BlueSky / AT Protocol) Post by: theskillzdatklls on December 12, 2022, 09:41:12 AM There's been an absurd amount of drama recently at Twitter with the Twitter files drop (ongoing). All of the newfound free speech and transparency is an improvement in the right direction, but it's weak since it's still all at a centralized point of failure.
That is why I am only interested in the Web3 technology that Elon is working on that is years away. MintDice dropped a blog post about this yesterday: https://www.mintdice.com/blog/elon-musk-app-x Just to keep up the awareness happening behind the scenes. |
