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Hi guys I know That it silly thing because gambling is a thing in which only casino wins
.and a user will always loose it's money. And gambling makes people poor and drain everything from money to joy. And that sucks.
In 2017 I was introduced by Bitsler.com
This website took me at least 2000 dollars a that time. There was a time when I have at least 3 ETHER at the rate of dollars. And I regret that day when I lost everything. And that took my life from me. And that was the was the day I never entered this type of scams ever. And I know people will say that we become greedy. But system is designed I n such way that it took people money and everything that we had. And I know it just that hard.

NOTE: My point is that in online gambling they can can easily loose others people money 🤣 I have seen that everyone is Roasting me with same text and also Roasting me. There is saying that " Casino always wins "
They do this by cheating or by Gang. Looks like you all are gamblers and might have lost a lot of money and than blaming me.

Because you played on a gambling site and you lost $2000, is that the reason you see 95% of gambling site to be scam? But you were not scammed but lose to the bet you played?

It depend on the site you use, I will advice people to use the gambling sites on gambling boards of this forum, they are trustworthy, but using only the ones that other members are advising people to use which are the currently active ones except 1xbit.

Gambling can be addictive and money can be lost. I have read many gambling site ToS that even include it that if someone know that he would gamble going beyond having fun, that the type of person should not gamble, that gambling should only be for fun and not for money making means.

In all casinos, there's a house edge which guarantee that the casino always win in the long run. This doesn't mean that the casino is a scam.
It's normal that the casino should be profitable for the owners.


They didn't scam you. You played at the casino and lost 2000 dollars. There is no one to blame.
As far as I know, the betting is provably fair on bitsler and there is no way to scam you with unfair bets. Someone correct me if I am wrong please.

You can't call something as a scam because you lost money on the bet, if you can't really afford the money to lose then you shouldn't be gambling at all. The minimum wager amount is pretty much few dollars on every gambling sites then why you decided to bet big?

You can't say this isn't happened because of the system, it happened due to your greediness and that's the truth even if you don't accept it.

Gambling especially casino games are more favourable to the house all the time so learn that first before doing something crazy.

It is not a scam when you lose money and keep in mind that you should have done your own research that most casinos have in place a house edge exactly to do that,keep the casino in a winning state over the long run.I know how bad it feels to lose even 0.10 Ethereum and let alone 3 Ethereums but unfortunately that happens when people become greedy,if you would have just hold those Ethereums and didn't play in the casino you would not have felt such great sadness,I know that feeling as I was once addicted but nothing you can do.

Took the life out of you right?  

Gambling is not for me either, I hardly win in blackjack the first time I tried. Won several times and then lose my capital. But I wouldn't really say 95% of the casinos online are scams. Many of them are trying to get a legit business. I could roughly estimate the number of casinos in crypto more than half of it is legitimately real and not trying to scam.

This is ridiculous honestly. I mean were you expecting to gamble and win on a regular basis? If that's the case then it's not more a gambling but play and win, lol. Two things might be involved in your loss which I think are is either you're not well experienced in the game or you were eager to recover your lose which led to more lose. Making bet and lose does not mean it's a scam unless you win and they deprive you from making withdrawal or something of such.

There are many ways to losses in gambling. The first I know is when someone is winning, the person may see it more exciting and play more and later start to lose and lose all. If the person has already won, he just supposed not to gamble again. After the loss, the person supposed not to gamble again too, but they would want to chase losses and thinking they can have luck and win back, this is the most reasons many people lose very well in gambling. People should not chase losses, they should just forget about it. If they use small amount of money, they will not chase losses.

What does you mean about Bitsler took money from you? does Bitsler terminate your account with your money or you gamble it all without withdrawing anything? If it's the first one, you can create an accusation on scam accusations section, if it's the another one, I will say you're a dumb person. House edge are actually legal system and everyone aware with that, if you don't want to gamble because of house edge, then you shouldn't gamble.

Quoted, I'll consider you wouldn't post in gambling section again.

So I guess me losing money on purchases, taxes, bills, and whatnot is also a scam then? Jeez, losing money on spending something is not a scam, it's just how the world flows since services/products require a payment to be made. Casinos are the same. Casinos are in a way designed as you said, to take money from users in the long run due to house edge but it's also a choice for users to NOT play. If you chose to play, then you basically agreed to the chances of you losing your money (which was included in you agreeing to your money increasing).

Was that the responsibility of Bitsler then? I don't think so, you know how you could end up losing that money yet you still risk it and that's your fault in the first place, it's not the platform. You're saying that every gambling platform here are all designed to scam people?

I will likely ask you, are you by any means using translator to translate to english?
Then from your topic saying something not corelate to your statement, if you gamble with bitsler does it mean all gambling sites are scammer?
No, because you didn't make your research properly to know how reliable the site is before depositing $2k, then followed by you, how well and how sure your games are to be correct in that site. I.e, what kind of game do you place a bet in that gambling site and how correctly you know your games played or not before saying all gambling site are scammer.

There have been some gambling site that has been existing for long and I have never heard a bad news or complaint about them. If actually you wanna gamble then search round here to see those reliable sites to gamble instead creating an account in a site that is not rated by reputable members here.

Actually, the reason you lost money because of what?
if you do lose money by gambling on their site you should understand the situation wisely.
but if you really don't have access to the account, it's really painful.

LOL

If you don't understand anything about gambling, I think you should never try to gamble similar like if you don't understand about Bitcoin, never say Bitcoin is scam. You should know every games has a house edge where based on the calculation, casinos is supposed to win. That's the reason why casinos can survive, if there's no house edge, there's no point to create a casino in the first place. Casino isn't a charity or help someone to get rich.

If gambling is a scam, the government shouldn't have issued them a permit to operate in the first place.
It's not even the casino's fault if you have lost $2k.
I think you don't totally understand how casino and hoe gambling works. The term "the house always wins" refers to the house edge where they take a small percentage out of your  winning amount. Thus, you'll probably going to lose if you play longer.
I knew people who lost way more than just $2k but they did not cry about casinos being a scam lol.

So why 95% only ? if this is your story then better say that all gambling online websites are scams because if losing is the way to distinguish scamming then all of us are scam victims because we all played losing ?

But what about the winning we gain? sorry mate but I don't totally agree with you, there are scam sites of course and even more than 50% but at least there are not 5% that legit , it is more than that.

Because that's how gambling business operations work. They have the house edge, you can't beat that. But there are days that you are going to be lucky and you should take that opportunity and logout once you win.

But if you comeback and play for more thinking that you can duplicate your winnings, chances are, you are going to lose. So the system is not a scam per se, it's just up to you how you control your emotions and not to fall for your greediness.

2000$ lose and it took your life already? Really? And what the heck you are thinking by putting your life savings on crypto casino and gamble it all? It gives me chills whenever I put huge money in the casino since I know that I can lose it all when I become greedy while playing.

You should blame yourself on this since your not responsible for managing your own finances. Gambling is not an investment opportunity that can give you sure money. You should not deposit balance that you can’t afford to lose.

If ut will only be determined on how many times we played and lose then probably most of the gambling sites will not passed the standards since there are tendencies that we will lose and that’s the risk we need to take when we play gambling may it be online or in physical. Losing and winning will depend on our capabilities to control the game, knowing when to stop and continue. If we will research all the papers or legal documents of gambling sites we can see there are still more that is operating legally some crypto gambling sites been stricter due to many rules governments provided.

Well if you lose then you can call them as scam, but if you win big then what?

LOL, in any case the design is not flaw, you might call it a trap or something, but then again, we can make our decision not to play or just have some fun when you are in a casino.

Oh and before I forget,t here are casinos that are blatantly scamming, but there are reputable ones. But at the end of the day, it's really up to you what kind of casinos you want to play and whether it fall on the 95% scam definition by the OP.

Everyone who have gambled have got similar experience. For that reason we can't say those websites are scam. Every platform stated as trusted is based on their provably fair functioning as well as holding different gambling licences. To prove your statement you need to add the losing bets as well as its failure on provably fair functioning. In the past some have indicated provably fair functioning errors, maybe OP too can try it.

I don't know man, it seems like this whole thing has nothing to do with gambling sites being a "scam", but you being salty about losing that $2k in 2017. that being said, I kind of agree that the gambling site's systems are designed to favour them. anyway, if you think and feel that there is no way to win against a gambling site, I suggest quitting.

Another newbie in gambling who expected to be rich from it but the result is not what is expected?
I am not sure how old you are but looking at how you blame the casino because you lost your money show that you are not mature enough.
You cant accept that you have lost your money because your own fault unless you thought that gambling is the best way to make money without any risk of losing your money LOL.
Kindly remember one thing in this life, you are responsible for anything you do including gambling.

But that doesn't mean 95% of gambling sites are not a scam because it's our own fault that keeps playing and doesn't have good control. Some people can win some money from gambling games, but more people lose. Actually, if people lose a lot of money, they shouldn't have to experience it if they can control themselves well. It all depends on how we can take care of ourselves while playing gambling and don't expect too much to win the gambling game.

Losing to a gambling game does not equate to the casino being a scam. This is why provably-fair casinos are always the go-to for a lot of gamblers nowadays because you can easily find out whether these platforms are not cheating you in any way. The only way I know that the casino is a scam is if they refuse to pay up other people's winnings, or they refuse to award promotions rightfully to their players. In the case of bitsler, you just lost to them for $2000, but that doesn't tell us anything because it's the same tale to almost every one of us who's gambling: we lost x amount of money most of the time.

Unfortunately, you are not good at doing research and you have the wrong set mindset about playing in casinos if you are introduced to one casino you should check if the site has a good reputation and if there are no complaints, don't just believe on people recommendation, casinos are entertainment portal its is not an investment portal where you deposit your money and expect a good return.

It's a game of luck, and they are here for entertainment purposes, if you are lucky to win then it's good to withdraw your earnings take a drink, and enjoy, the biggest misconception in casinos is trying to make it their cash cow which is not possible.

considering the mentioned casino of the OP, bitsler has actually good reputation so just because he lost, he concluded that this casino a scam. some gamblers really do accuse the site as a scam if they lost their funds or went home as a loser. in this forum alone, he can find reputable casinos to play or bet with. if he believes that 95% are scam, then that's his point of view.
he won't enjoy playing if he has this kind of mentality, better get out of his gambling habits rather than spreading misleading standpoint.

there are indeed some gambling sites that are deliberately created just to deceive users but there are also those that become scams due to circumstances (due to management errors). The point is don't carelessly play on a gambling site, pay attention to which ones really have a good reputation.
I don't know what happened to the gambling sites you mentioned but you have to use other gambling sites because there are many other gambling sites that have good reputations circulating.

Actually it’s new way of scamming,before most of the people earn by the ethics.But now a days,many people lost their humanity and ethics.So it was reason for the scamming gambling website now a days.You should learn to escape from such websites.It’s only happened with the help of analysis.You should have a habit of analysis of websites before get into it.Because in online you going to use of real money and not a fake money to lose it easily.Why you are worrying about the scam website,you can wait and find the best website.Even it take 6 months of time,no need to worry for that.Because you can’t learn or earn anything for free.People with good knowledge on gambling will not get the trap and loss their money in it.The 5 percentage of good gambling website is enough to earn from it.

Not because you get scam or heard about scamming story you will easily drop out a huge 95% all of them are scam. its unfair to casino owners since from this statistic you tell might create confusion and they will be drag on what others scam casino did.

Maybe there are scam but many of them running legitimately so better choose the right one and pick a casino which is old then been positively vouch by many forum users since this will save you from scams.

Where did you get that statistics?, This is not enough reason to conclude that 95% gambling sites are scam, And I have not seen much proof in your thread here to satisfy that or back it up, I don't think this is correct because using my country as an example it's very rare to see sports bookers Scam people just like that, it does happen but in a rare case , hence you could say that sometimes , some of them do restrict some of their customers due to KYC or some reasons best known to them, and that has been most freequent complaints we've got here from few gamblers.

Someone who only manages to go through the topic of this discussion may be quick to jump into conclusion maybe thinking that OP has backed up his numbers with maybe a link to a statistics carried out. He didn't play with an amount of money that he could afford to loose and to me he is just aggrieved and out to ruin the general name and image of online casino's and gambling sites. There are still credible casino's and gambling sites that have no dubious intentions, just business and have been up and running for a long time now. Do your research properly and play with an amount of money you can loose, you will be fine.

It seems that you gamble wisely because you lose a tons of money in the gambling casino again the main objective of the casino is to give entertainment to the players through offering different games to satisfy them at the same time is giving a chance to earn too, and if you are aware with that for sure you are aware the possible risk in playing gambling, people nowadays make a scam accusations to the gambling casino once they loses a lot of money sometimes it is all about the players who didn't read the terms and conditions and the platform itself use, better to check before playing or deposit.

I notice the title of your thread putting a very high percentage on gambling as 95% scam without giving any data that can prove that, you must hate casinos for you to think that 95% of casinos are scams without providing anything to back up your claim, as a general rule of playing you should only play with money that you an afford to lose and not money that you are saving or allocated for your family needs.



Your experience in one casino should not and cannot apply to other casinos, the online gambling industry is thriving because we have a long list of reputable casinos that people can play with ease of mind, you don't blame the entire casino industry,  because of the fault of one casino.

It's always like that though, scamming or not, online gambling sites will love to take your money in whichever way they can, promotions or others.

And so we gamblers though that we can outsmart them, actually I believed that majority of us has that mindset in the beginning and thinking forward of winning huge because we are smart and have the formula to do it. But we are all wrong and then we accused the gambling site of scamming us, lol.

I understand feeling of the OP which losing at gambling, but I don't agree that 95% of online gambling is a scam. That's statements must be straightened out, as gamblers we must be responsible for any bet we can place, and also we should have realized that the money we put into the site doesn't guarantee profit. So we should to know it before doing any gambling, we need planning with several strategies and of course must be disciplined.

The house always wins. That's the hard truth.
What game are you playing in online casinos?

I suggest going for sports gambling as there you could enhance the chance to win a game and it won't take too much money from you in a day because most sports are not continuous in a year, they always have the summer rest.
1 or 2 bets per day, enjoy the game, analyze who will win then put your bets. You could use the preferred favorites by the bookies if you have a hard time deciding.
I played slots before and it also made me broke so I switched to sports gambling.

It's not a scam, it's just gambling. Would you also say that other forms of gambling in the streets are scam? It's just that, the house always has the upper hand. It's up to you if you want to risk it. No one is forcing anyone.
I also have a large amount lost in dice, but I don't blame anyone for that. I decided to risk it, double it, or triple it but I am not that lucky enough.
There are ways to avoid it, choose a game where the decision to win is not by the house but because of your moves. Example: Poker.

Oh guys that's not my story, than tell me what you got from gambling. Everyone here loose by gambling too. And it just sucks I do not know that why you are just roasting me.

Not because you lose something you will say that bitsler is a scam, as far as I know it has a good reputation in this forum, I also tried using it wayback before no issue for me as well as to those people I knew.Some of my friends are still playing in bitsler, I think there is a campaign for bitsler a years before, I forgot the manager of it.

That is a big claim to make and maybe one that is defined from your own personal bitterness after losing a such a large sum, rather than one that is defined by actual reality. No doubt there are plenty of opportunistic scam type casinos and sportbooks out there, but if you stick with any of the big names here that have many good reviews (avoiding 1xbit/1xbet) then you are unlikely to have any problems. Unfortunately people seem to associate losing money to casinos with casinos being a scam. That comes down to a simple misunderstanding by the end user that almost every single game is calculated to take your money in the long run, just like winning at a lottery, it is an insignificant percent of people who will actually walk away with big winnings - if they're able to pull themselves off the site after a big win.

If you don't have a real proof about a scam you're Just wasting useful time providing such claim.
Of course there are some scams sometimes but bigger and reputable platforms are not involved.
However OP if you have played and lost.... no, gambling sites are not scam but they are designed to have a profit (as other users point out the in-famous house edge).
Of course if you have valid proofs create a scam accusations https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Gambling discussion Is not the right section for such claim.

I don't know from where OP got the information 95% of online gambling platforms are scammers, but that seems pretty inaccurate and misleading. Maybe he is counting as legit casinos only those where he played and have won?

OP needs to understand the house edge factor which prevents gamblers from winning on long run. The house has a clear advantage, it is on their rules and gamblers have to agree with this in order to start wagering.

When we talk about scam casinos we mainly talk about casinos which don't pay gamblers when they win and create several issues and complications to deny the fair and legit withdrawal.

You should know the risks of gambling right from the start that you could possibly lose everything you have if you won't get lucky. We can't always win against the house yet there's still a possibility that we can hit the target prize that we want. That's why we are always advised to gamble the money that we can only afford to lose so we'll know how to deal with the risks of gambling. The site didn't scam you if that's what happened, it's just that you didn't get lucky that day.

You did not say you won and they didn't pay your money so why are they scam to your opinion ?


The game of gambling is a business for someone that own it and you will not be expecting free money from every spin or wager that you do on the casino. Is a lucky try.

he was disappointed because he lost a lot of money in it, but Op's statement gave the wrong reason about the 95℅ gambling site is a scam, actually he just lost playing on the site.  unless the money in it is lost for some other reason, for example the site blocks access to withdraw its funds, then it would be correct to state that the site is a scam

I'm sorry for your lose, OP but isn't it this way the casino was designed?
I mean, they were meant for entertainment in the first place and winning with their provably fair and huge prize isn't enticing already? That's why there are people who would like to go beyond with their acceptable losses limit because they think they will win but playing like this will ruin their funds and mood.

That's why we always say it to them, play at your own risk or play according to your funds limit and don't go beyond that. Just call it a day and try again tomorrow.

The same goes with my experience, even though they're not active here I assume they're still doing their best to make their site competitive, and scamming their players would probably be the least thing they'll do.

OP did say something similar though so he probably knew. And I agree it was misleading to say they're scams since that's just how most casinos operate and make money.

I'm sorry if you have lost a lot but Op, you should be aware that that's how gambling works. If you didn't win, then you will lose your funds but if you win, you'll have your funds doubled or tripled depending on your bet. Gambling is risky and if you can't handle it, you will surely feel disappointed in the end.
I think that should serve as a lesson to you that you shouldn't risk the funds that you can't afford to lose or should I say, if you aren't are not ready to accept defeat in gambling then try to avoid it because we can't blame the gambling site.

My question is, how do you know it's 95%? Where did you get this number from? What if it's 50%? When you give such bold statements you should be able to back it up with some real data.

Say 95% are scams, which ones aren't? We have a number of well known casinos advertising here, this must mean that at least half of those from the top of the list are scams. Why don't you go to their threads and tell them that? You were only able to throw your accusations at one site so far, but you claim that most of them scam. Did you play on any other besides bitsler?

You must be on the lookout for con artists that are constantly attempting to hurt you. You may wonder why someone would con you, but you shouldn't let this thinking consume you. There are a variety of persons sitting around waiting to steal your money with superb fraud schemes.

Indeed, that is how casinos operate and make money. Otherwise nobody would be able to run a sustainable casino business.

I had the perception he said the phrase above claiming casinos are designed to take people's money, but in a scammy way, as gamblers were being deceived and stolen by gambling websites, while in fact we know some basic principles of gambling are to just play with money you can afford to lose and that the house always win in the end (not because they steal, but because they have the edge at their favour, as it is highlighted and informed by every legit casinos around).

Wait, what? what about the title, that's not your statement either? I think that's the conclusion of the OP's content ::)

First of all, the title is very misleading as the contents of your post are irrelevant to the subject.

Second, Bitsler did not "take away" your money from you- you have the discretion and choice to gamble upon knowing all the necessary and consequences that follow with such decision. Online gambling websites will not steal nor get money from you at any cost- you wager them with the risks and embrace the consequences of either winning or losing in the process.

At the end of the day, you cannot blame your own decisions to gambling websites. You must be fully aware that your decision follows all the risks that are associated with it.

Please! if you know that, you should feel sorry for crying over losses.

I understand your frustration we all go through money losses not only with casinos, there are people who (1)buy a used car and it results in a bad investment, it is more expensive to repair it and even selling it is difficult, is it a scam? no, you had to check well,  (2)you lend money to a friend, family member... they don't return it and if they do it is in parts or when they want, is it a scam? no, you buy a 4k(3) TV but it turns out that they got the wrong box it was Full HD it happened to me in a respectable store, I came back and nothing happened they changed it, so lucky it? no, if I will bought it to an individual by half the price surely would have scam. So on decisions are made that lead to losses.

... there is no problem, they are things that can be overcome...with casinos there should be no difference, in fact you should never compare these types of investments, but if you talk abouth scams you should know that if a casino makes you lose money and then you say that it is a scam, you are prone to life hitting you...and perhaps harder than a casino loss.

When it's a scam!?  E.G. when they don't pay you a bonus, when the casino argues false things so as not to pay, misleading promotions, this reminds me of the TV 4k(3) box.

So. It is a bad premise to think that you can become a millionaire in a casino,  you have to understand that this process should be part of the entertainment that a casino offers, the only way to be profitable in a casino is to use correct banking management , 1000:1 or 1:1000 as understood and as appropriate, there are people who use a ratio of 1 to 10,000 the issue is that for many it is boring to put $1000 in a casino and win/loss $30 a month.

Then, you are happy if you have a winning streak betting $10, but when  Mr. Loss "arrive"  something normal happens, it down their bankroll, I repeat, it's normal... what is not normal is that Bets break the bankroll.

The Casinos are entertainment centers that offer games, I repeat "games" in which you can have a reward if you win, it's that simple, without a doubt casinos rely on marketing, emotions to sell themselves as a presumptuous source of "luck" for earn money, okay, it's a business.

(4)Drinking 29 cups of coffee in a day could be deadly, sometimes it scares me to think that I drink up to 4 in a day, It is my daily bet on caffeine, we must know the limits of the things we like.
^{I have that statistic by the way, it's a scientific study.}

There is a premise that says "don't spend money you can't afford to lose" (4).

Finally: I'm sorry for your losses, I hope you can recover the money you bet, it was your decision.

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^{(1)(2)(3):personal life experiences.
(4):https://www.wbur.org/news/2018/07/02/coffee-8-cups-healthy}

%95 of online gambling websites AREN'T scam. %95 of scammy websites are more like portraying themselves as innocent online gambling websites. Reason is crystal clear: People wanna deposit money as soon as possible to start playing, so its best way to get credit card number.
If you are mentioning regular online gambling websites, obviously you will very likely lose. That's main point. Its hard to win in gambling that's why you are rewarded after, with money.

Look; gambling is a business. A business which uses your greed against you. The games are of course designed against you, how the fucking hell are they going to survive if the players win?

You gamble because you want the casino's money.

You know what? The casino wants your money.  ;D

2000 dollars is nothing for the lesson you learned. People learned the same lesson for a much much higher price. Consider yourself lucky and get a job.

Gambling originates from ancient times. People are losing a lot from it and also winning. Gambling is often compared to luck. So luck is not always in everyone's favor. It's hard to say who will win and who will lose. The way the OP is personalizing and reacting, because he's a loser. But in any situation it is better to take gambling naturally. Since the casino owner does not force anyone to play, it is not fair to blame.

that's why its always good to make research first before playing or putting money in a gambling sites, that's the first rule tbh.  indeed until now there's still alot of it if you keep looking for good promotions and etc that can convince you to play because that's the technique to caught some victims. Lol for me much better to rely which is more convenient and popular because nowadays you cannot trust anyone unless a lot of people already tried it and showing or sharing a proof that the site is totally legit..

And we can say that it is based on luck, recently there is a issue with Philippine Lotto result, but I think it's more of a coincidence and the probabilities. I guess it's just the OP personal opinion, I mean when he won for sure we won't hear any complaints. But if we lose we call the gambling site as a scam because it take our money very easy. And true, casino's are there but you are not force to play if you think they will take your money from your hands.

Based on the story that you've provided; it looks like you already figured out that these gambling platforms did not scam you but rather you've lost on your gambling activities. You've already lost from the start, yet you still continue to gamble which means that you're a problem gambler and you let greed take over you. These gambling platforms have probably fair systems for players to confirm each bet they bet on and avoid any trust or scam issues.

I've lost most of the time but there are times that I've won especially in dice games and sports betting. If you're example for a scam activity is gambling because you've lost, then you consider most of the things you do is scam especially when you do not profit. 

Losing will always be inevitable in gambling as casinos will always have an edge to win over the players. But this does not mean that losing comes with scamming, you lose your money because you’re not lucky enough to win that bet, that’s all. Though there are really few casino sites that are scams, but saying 95% is already unbelievable. Maybe if losing is your basis, then don’t go for gambling to earn a living, instead gamble for fun and entertainment.

With what happened to you, it's not a scam. You've lost and you have admitted that it's the one why you've felt that most casinos are a scam. Scams, get money from you and you get nothing from them. When you gambled there, you get what they offer to play and you wagered $2k and you lost it.
It's because having a casino is a business, it's not a charity. It's bound to make money and make people win sometimes and that's why if you're going to play against them, you need to understand that the chance of casino winning against you is always high.

These numbers are absolutely wrong. Maybe personally for some people, if you keep your own stats in mind. If you have bet on 10 sites and you have been scammed 9 times, then your own statistics are correct. But the overall picture is wrong. Take all the well-known gambling sites from the forum, then I'm sure most of them are legit. And when is a site scam? I mean you can always have problems with a site. That's common. That doesn't mean you have to talk about scam. Structural non-payment would give more indication of a scam. But I disagree with the OP's statement.

Sorry if you've lost everything back then but before you gamble at that time, you should have realized that anything can happen and you may lost your entire savings if you're not careful enough.

It's normal that we get greedy based on what we're feeling at that moment because we feel the rush and adrenaline as we play. There are scam casinos that won't give the withdrawal of a player but bitsler and other casinos are not a scam.

You plainly have lost to the game you've played and that's the hardest part of it, acceptance. :)

OP is just blaming the sites he is playing with because he can’t accept that he lose that easily, if they really scam OP better for him to have a scam accusation and as long as you have the evidence then you can be good. I don’t believe on this percentage, 95% of a scam site looks unreal for me, there’s a lot of good site that pays their players with a huge reward, and losing is very normal in gambling so we should not blame this one to the site.

I'm sure the OP said it because he lost from gambling to accumulating that 95% of untrusted casinos so I think he is a new gambler but doesn't understand the basics of gambling games for entertainment not working for profit priority. However, he should know that gambling is so close to the risk of loss that he doesn't need to spend $2k as a new gambler, he should have to deposit the lowest minimum of money to learn how to play gambling properly without being affected by the greed that can harm him.

Common lines when someone do being wrecked totally by gambling.

1. Its a scam
2. Its not fair
3. Its bogus
4. Its rigged
5. Its manipulated

Without even realizing that gambling isnt designed for you to make money or making it as a source of income.
You should really make yourself that prepared on those losing events considering that house do always win.
If you do play on Bistler which is a dice site then its one of the most known or popular dice site.
You could make out some fairness verification if you are in doubt.

you gambled and lost everything you had, the casino didn't hold your money, the casino didn't disappear with your money, the casino didn't cheat in a way that made you lose money so that means you lost cleanly, but you still lost insists on accusing the casino of being a scam even knowing that this is not true. you have probably become a person addicted to gambling and you are not able to deal with losses, it is urgent that you stop gambling and forget about casinos for a long time and do other things in the real world for you to have fun and even when you heal don't get involved with gambling

The problem is that we need to be careful about how we keep using different gambling platform at a time because many of these casinos that are online are scam and putting your money there can be very dangerous. We just need to use reputable platform to bet and do whatever we like because many scammers now are creating there own gambling platform since that is where many gambling do lost there funds because of the mindset of making more.
There is not doubt that gambling is very risky and we should always gamble with what we know we can afford to lose if we actually hit a bad luck.

Because they want to steal money from people and make some quick money? It is like asking why bad people are bad. But it is very easy to avoid those "95% scam" sites that you are talking about. Just play in those casinos that has been around for a long time and has good reputation. Avoid casinos that are "copy paste" of another casino.

By the way, are calling the casinos scammers because you lost your money when since you kept on playing? It's a casino. Not a charity organization that will give you free money. And yes, they are designed to win in the long run. They are here to do business. They make profit through house edge.

Lets assume your mindset is 100% correct, so how could you fall on that if you know about it? Who is wrong here? You who know that gambling makes people poor or the casino that does not even know/care about who you are and what you are doing?


When you lost your money in casino = scam casino, how if you get a huge win on your very 1st day of gambling? Will you have a statement that all gambling sites are good or maybe you will call them as charity company?  :D


I'm not going to say you are greedy, but I have to say that you are dumb (sorry). You know the possible effect of gambling but you forced yourself to gamble your money. You are just a type of person who cant deal with what you do, you are not ready for any consequences of what you do. Come on dude, think twice first before you are going to do something. Take a look at the possible risk at least, dont cry because of your own mistake then start to blame others.

If you play gambling but do not have the ability to control yourself, you will only experience losing money, even in large amounts that you yourself will not realize.
Playing gambling using big money will only make us think that we still have a lot of money and can continue to gamble longer and try to win in the next round.
But that's often not the case because many people who try to continue playing will suffer heavy losses, especially if they spend more money each spin.
You have learned that playing gambling requires caution so that you can control yourself and not increase the amount of bets in each round.

The ironic part here is that, even though there are many people saying not to gamble because things like this might happen or gambling makes a gambler poor, there are still gamblers that for some reason really want to gamble.

With regards to you saying that "only" the casino wins. I disagree with that because I know that there are some gamblers who are still winning but they rather not publicize it for security purposes and the ones that are only publicized are the gamblers who are losing money.

How did they take it?
If they locked your account without any reason, then you can blame then.
Now if they locked your account because you abused the website for whatever reason or you lose your money because you gambled then that's a different situation and you can't blame them.

As for me, gambling website aren't a scam. It's just that, gamblers are going to a point where they will gamble every money that they have thus, they are losing. Calling them a scam just because you lost money is just ridiculous.

The rise of the gambling industry started long ago and the level is now increasing gradually. Every year the income is increasing in this industry due to which people are now showing great interest in working in this industry. And this opportunity is taken by many scammers which results in scamming a large part of casino sites. And for this it is necessary to determine a good site so that gamblers are not cheated. However, the forum plays an important role in this aspect. Where ‍a gambler can get information about legit or scam projects easily.

That is a exaggerated claim mate that 95% of them all? well at least I have been playing in several sites and still contented, because I know that Luck needs to be by myside to win so losing is an expected thing for me.

and also  not because you experienced losses meaning you need to call them scam , losing means you are not lucky and you are greedy to seek for high wins, admit it or not? you wanted to double or even how many multiplier that you want so it ends up losing 2k usd.

It is quite unfortunate that OP lost such a huge amount of money. But it is also unfair for him to push the reason for his failure to the casino company. It is outrageous to now publish the company's name with the aim of tarnishing the company's image. The highest form of misconception is to conclude that 95% of online gambling websites are scams.

I think this is to large extent a form of immaturity. I said this because when someone pushes the blame on another without taking full responsibility for his actions and inactions, that is a sign of immaturity. We have countless reliable and renowned gambling websites that can never scam their customers. Most gambling sites that have the intention to scam members always give out-of-world bonuses to attract their prey and they don't last for a long time. Just stick to the well-known casino companies you see on this forum.

that's what I thought from the OP's explanation. he overreacted to his desire to double the money. Greed is the representative of the addicted gambler. and always ends badly for gambling.
if the OP finds a good Casino with a better understanding too (emotions) I don't think the OP to lose a lot of money.
some gamblers, and some play in casinos for entertainment. win or lose, of course, they have realized it from the start. but other gamblers are too focused on chasing big wins.

95% can it be from one reason that you lost a dollar amount due to not being able to really control your own gambling? Of course this is not the right conclusion to say that online gambling sites are scams. Don't say it's a scam if you play the money in the casino. Unless you do nothing and the $2000 balance just disappears to the casino. But the fact is that is not what you experience. You lost $2000 from your own actions and greed.

When you make general allegations like this, you will get roasted. A lot of the online casinos are regulated and they are operating under strict regulations. When you play third party Slots on them, the third party developer of the Slot, will set the RTP for the casino... so the casino do not even have control over that.  ::)

The casino (HOUSE) only WIN, if you do not stop playing. Let's say you win $100 000 and you continue playing.... then the casino will eventually take back the $100 000 or you might win something again, but the odds are stacked in their favor for you to lose that money again. Good gamblers know when to stop.  ;)

What you call scam I call mathematical certainty. There are some sites that are scam, but not even close to 95% and in this forum, in general the ones you see in the signatures of forum members are legit with some exceptions like 1xBit or 1xCrap, as I prefer to call it.

Learn concepts such as expected value or mathematical expectation, House Edge and RTP and you will better understand how casino games work. You never have to take them as a good system to win money. Think of it as entertainment, like going out to dinner or to the movies, but with the difference that from time to time you may come out with more money than you went in.

It was your lack of experience that made you lose the $2000 because you should have known better. It is a certainty that scammers use most of these unlicensed casinos to target victims, but the truth is, only the greedy and ignorant get scammed.
Your story alone does not corroborate the scam theories unless another party or parties have had similar experiences with the same platform you gambled on. In the future, it is however advisable to apply some level of precaution when gambling on new platforms with huge cash portfolios.
Do not gamble with, mostly on not yet trusted platforms, monies you cannot afford to loose. Also, always verify the authenticity of a gambling site you intend to bet on. Furthermore, it is better to learn from the experience of others than from ones own, because one might not live to tell the tale, in cases where it is too tough to recover from.

Something quickly i understood is that, people trying to shy away from KYC value more those casinos that gives them more bonuses; but realistically without knowing that could be a trap most at times i don't really value those site, is another way to attract users and much signup. That was were he find himself into and after such experience have no options than come label all exchange as scam.

That is why we must be very careful in choosing a casino site because not all of them will be able to satisfy us in playing gambling. The issue of KYC concerns crypto gamblers, so we avoid casinos that implement KYC from the start and continue looking for casinos that do not use KYC.

But the problem came when they wanted to withdraw their winnings from the casino site. And even though we're okay with KYC, we still have to choose the casino carefully. And yes, it's better to avoid casinos that have gotten a bad label in dealing with their users.

You say most of the gambling websites are scam just because the edge is on the sites' side which is true.
But that doesn't mean that they are scam because it is a business. It is how gambling sites work.
We tend to lose money because the edge is on the casino site's side and it is logical for them to win in the long run.
These gambling websites are just meant for fun and not a way to earn. So you can't really say that they are a scam.
Yes, there are some gambling sites which are meant for scamming others by locking the deposits etc... and that's a separate thing.

Gambling sites are constantly evolving. Gamblers are losing huge amounts of money through deposits. It is true that many gambling sites are cheating their customers. But in this case Gamblers fault one another bit issue. Gamblers easily deposit and start playing on any new site hoping for more bonus. After a few days, when the site disappear, they are working again on another site in the same way. Legit projects will remain when such activities from gamblers will reduce. However, it is important for a gambler to select a legitimate gambling site before betting responsibly.

Charge to experience, mate. Since losing is always your experience, it might be time for you to stop gambling.

The subject is very misleading. You are risking money on a gambling website and you are expecting a sure winning?

Can't believe that someone who has $2,000 is just doing a suicidal move without any basic knowledge of the risk of gambling.

OP only lost 2000$ in gambling and he is saying that gambling sites are scam. OP does not know that win and lose is a part of gambling. Losing in gambling does not mean that gambling houses are scamming.
In my opinion, OP does not know how gambling works and have no money management skills, and therefore on losing he is just crying like a kid.


I never knew that 95% of gambling sites are scams. I don't know how many gambling sites exist but if we consider only the online gambling sites active on this forum, then most of the sites are trusted and only 20 or at most 30% are scams but most of the sites are real. Secondly, gambling houses are a profitable business so if they offer good services they will gain customers and eventually earn more profits. It's difficult to run a scam gambling site as people once get scammed will never return again to that site.

Blame yourself, not the site. That was non-sense.

You lose money because you do gambling. Is there any form of 100% winning in gambling?

It won't be called gambling if the result will always be a win. You have to accept that worst experience of yours and move on. It's good though that you considered it a scam and I hope you stick with that reason not to gamble again.

To start with OP I will prefer maybe you adjust the thread topic to "why online gambling website wins and gamblers looses more frequent" because your title could actually contradict wjat you mean alot, but my point here in respect to the quote i made is that every gambling is responsible for his decision, which is you being a gambler should know what is at stake to gamble which is winning or loosing, if you win you earn your money and same way if you loose, but literally canbwe be 100% accurate in our predictions at all times? No, individuals ability in gambling differs from each other and so are the chances for winning as well, you should already know that gambling involves taking risk.

If you think that losing on gambling or a casino is a scam especially knowing that when you gamble there's a chance that you will either win or lose. Then, yes, charge it to experience to never gamble again as you already know risk yet you still play and blame the platform for losing.

Nope, the subject isn't misleading but rather completely wrong as the casino did not scam him at all.

Why did you risk that kind of amount in gambling? Are you expecting it to become double, triple, x4, x10, or x999? Wrong move bro. At least for someone who has that capital, I'm expecting that you know what you are doing. Can't believe that you need to lose that kind of amount in order to learn something.

From now on, since you know the feeling of losing that kind of decent amount, I hope you will stop risking your money on gambling from now on.

No choice but to accept it and move forward.

You are ignorant and probably, you were scammed by the gambling websites you have visited. I have checked your profile and you never make any complaint about any gambling websites we have in this forum, if at all they are the reputable ones here, you will have made an accusation thread of you being scammed and another victim that has been exploited but you didn't.

Gambling is a probability, you don't know the outcome, but that doesn't mean your chances of winning will always be abused. People lose and they also win, if at all they don't win, players would have stopped going to them at a certain point and they wouldn't even exist. You can see even in this forum that gambling is taking place every day, we constantly have new casinos that are coming to want to dominate their marketing here.

I have doubt OP said he lost $2000 gambling on a gambling site called Bitsler.com. I just wanted to say since you bet there you can lose. There is no fault of that particular gambling site. Why are you blaming that site? You needed to think about this when you were gambling. On the other hand casino sites are now very competitive and they always try to give maximum advantages to their clients. If you see any inconsistency then of course you can disclose it but I think it is reasonable to disclose it with enough evidence.

Let's change the case, what if you won $2000 from bitsler because of the luck and the greediness of yours? Will you still have to make a post here praising bitsler for some money you win? Obviously not. It's a common sense that casino will win on long term  because of the house edge and this is the same on physical casino where at the end the casino ways win if you don't get satisfied yet. Reputable casino has a high chance that they won't cheat given that they have the reputation they are caring for, The casino industry is saturated and the reputation of the casino is one of the biggest factors that make them alive, They won't damage it by just keeping some hundred of dollars.

interesting reading this thread, there is something that the OP forgot that actually he could have kept himself away from casinos and gambling sites, because no one forced him to gamble and play on casino sites, he came himself and played and lost then called it an act of fraud , maybe if you win a lot of money from a casino or gambling site you will not make this thread it's just bad luck that you have a bad experience of losing money because of your own defeat, whatever is called gambling there is always a risk and how we want to continue it or not, correction yourself

This is where most people think that they're getting value off of unknown gambling platforms with lots of bonuses thinking that they hit a gold mine, when in fact they are the actual victims. If what the platform offers is too far from what a lot of respected casinos are offering, it's either the owner of the casino is doing charity or it's a scam. There's no in between, because if you build your brand focused on promotions and lots of giveaways, people will only recognize you as a brand that is big on promotions/free stuff and nothing else.

^So it means if OP will lose in offline gambling casinos, it will probably call it a scam too?
People need to understand that gambling is not good for having a source of income, it should be for fun and only gamble the amount that you can afford to lose, that is it. You are calling them a scam now because you lose in gambling? The fact that you can never defeat the house edge as always and if a gambling business industry is not that profitable you think those gambling casinos will exist? Just think about it before blaming them.

So basically you don't wanna be blamed? There's no point in roasting beginners here, there are some ways of thinking that you basically need to change. Like your thread this time you finally admitted that the OP's content wasn't your experience, so what kind of approach draws that conclusion in your title? In fact I doubt that you have any experience with any casino.

Don't act like you're always intimidated by high ranking members, you're intimidated by your own dedication to ranking up (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg61068187#msg61068187)  :P.

First of all, don't treat gambling as a way to earn money. Just because you didn't get what you want, you will call a gambling platform a scam. It may be hard to accept but it was your greediness that make you lose 3 ether. Gambling casinos have what we call house edge where they always have the advantage over their player.

Whenever your expectations hadnt meet or wasnt able to happen then you would definitely pointing up fingers for you on whose gonna be blamed out and since you are playing gambling on a certain platform then you would definitely saying its a scam or non fair.You should really change that kind of mindset.
Gambling games is never been meant to be acting as a source of income.Its for leisure but people do really go into other extent where they do really believe that they could really make money
through it or on constant manner.
You should really make yourself realize while its still early rather than realize things when you had already fucked up and lost big time on gambling.You should
avoid that as much as you could.

You're in a gambling section, most probably we are all gamblers here.
What are trying to say that all the site are scam? Did they cheat on you, may we know your proof with this statement?
We should not create FUD or panic if we don't have strong evidence with our claims, it's normal for a casinos to always win because it's their business and the only way for them to stay in operation is to always win while paying many gamblers who are also winning the game.

Most of those newbies who lose on gambling site think about they are been scam so that they have something to blame regarding on their losses, but actually this is not good numbers to take since for sure even if there are scam still many of them for sure we can see it here that to many of them running a legitimate business. So we should lower down our expectation and always gamble moderately so that we can have fun playing.

This is the simplest explanation for the situation of OP, losing doesn't mean you got scammed or the system cheated on you. Gambling is a game of luck, you can't expect to always win and can't expect that odds will always be in favor to you. The house edge will remain high and that's the top priority of the site, though of course they are still fair enough for giving a more fair games for every gamblers, you just need to count on your luck.  

You should stop gambling if you think 95% of casinos are scams its bad for your pocket and for your health too, leave gambling to those who want to get scammed  :D, you have a bad impression of casinos because you've been scammed by huge amount of money by one casino and you can't move on with that so you create FUD instead of creating a formal complain on one casino so you can warn others.

You shouldn't gamble what you can't afford to lose.  It isn't the Casino's fault.  It is your fault of not disciplining yourself.  I think you are mature enough at that time and know the consequences.  Don't blame others for your mistake.  Suck it up and accept that you messed up big time by not controlling yourself.

I win I lost, that is gambling but to lose all the money I have is my fault and not the casino's.  I always bear that in mind.  Better to learn things than blaming other for our mistake.

Correct, it is not a secret that casinos have an edge over the player, this is something we can find in seconds thanks to the Internet, but that does not make them a scam.

People should think of the house edge in the same way they think of the money they pay for a video game or whatever they like, it is simply the price to pay to have some fun, the only difference is that the price is not fixed and people can bet as much money as they want, however if you lose more money than what you can afford to lose, that is on you and the casino is not at fault.

If you are seeing it as a multiplier for your money and then that's your fault. It must noted that since you are seeing gambling as a way to increase your money instantly and then that makes you greedy at that time and you were losing your money. You blame the platform since it was your fault. If you are only using very very small amounts of money to play and then you will not be loosing all of your money. You have the right to play or not. So, anyone has their own right to determine whether they wanna play with it or not.
It's your choice and none forced you to play in the past. You said that you got introduced by bitsler that means you're interested with it but not for the platform

That's the gambling how it works at the first thing is gambling casino just want to bring the entertainment would like to give and it is all depends on the players how they will actively wasting their money not all the time the gambling gives a good profit that's why it is testing your luck at the same time if you already wasted a lot of money that's mean you didn't gambling responsibly we cannot blame the casino to have too much additive entertainment still it is all in players choice to play or not.

I think the only logic in what you are saying is that you won't lose money if you didn't decide to deposit money at bitsler.com that you mentioned.

Then gambling in crypto gambling, you as a gambler should consider the amount that you enter into the gambling platform is that you are ready to lose, now if you win just be thankful, if you lose you should know that because it is really difficult to defeat the house edge at any gambling platform.

The casino doesn't need to cheat you, the games are designed in a way that there is a house edge that makes sure the casino wins over time. You are saying that 95% of gambling sites are scams but don't give any actual proof for it. That number is way to high and it makes no sense for big casinos to engage in scams. Why risk your reputation and business for a scam that will be uncovered and ruins your casino? The big online casinos who have been around for years rely on their regular customers for their profits. Running a scam in a casino will only make sure that all of the regular customers are going to leave the casino and not come back. A casino doesn't need to run a scam to make a profit. All the games you can play online or in physical casinos have a negative expected value for the gambler. That means the longer you play, the higher the chances the casino is going to win. Which doesn't mean we can't be lucky and make a profit ourselves. It's just that the overall number of losers in a casino will be larger than the number of winners. That is how the casino makes their money legitimately.  

I would change the OP's question. Why do people who don't understand the basic workings of casinos call what they can't understand a scam?

There are casinos that are scam, but few compared to the number of decent casinos out there. Not even close to 95% are scam. Without having statistics in my hand I would say it's the other way around: at least 95% are legit.


No. They do it with the House Edge, which is something known to anyone who spends a minimum of time to do a little research, instead of accusing a public mathematical system of being a scam.

@OP if you want to earn money, don't gamble but start looking to get a job. If you really want to earn money from gambling business, don't become a gambler but become the owner who create the casino or invest your money on the casino.

Can you give a proof if online casino is cheating or by gang to earn money? Don't write any nonsense assumption without any clear explanation and proof. It looks like you're just a mad gambler who become rekt after playing on online casino.

no one will ever be able to beat the city.
gambling for me or for other gamblers considers just to have fun when they have extra money or free time. and if you get big or small wins at gambling it is luck or just a bonus when we are looking for entertainment to get prizes.
when a person gets into gambling they will realize that gambling is just entertainment risking a little bit of their money to entertain their spare time. and if someone enters into gambling just because he wants to get bigger money that is a big mistake. and always consider gambling a scam when you lose.
you said that you lost $2000 of your bet money for me it doesn't matter because you really intend to get into gambling and know all the risks you have to bear when considering gambling as a place to double money. (happy it's expensive)
and i think Bitsler is a fair and no scam platform. it's just that maybe you think that the platform can make more money when you put some of your money on the gambling table but you actually lose and think all gambling is a scam.
remember bro, gambling is just for fun, the rest is a bonus. don't expect more from gambling

When you decided to gamble your money, dont you know the consequences that you might face? It's hard to win in gambling that's why it's advisable to use only the money that you can afford to lose. I'm also a gambler and already experienced to lose my money in gambling many times but I dont blame the casino or anyone because I play on my own will. This is the problem if you have high expectation to gain because you cant really accept the worse outcome easily specially you didnt use a spare money.

You are being roasted because you are giving false information about casinos, 95% is such a very high number, can you show us where you get that stat, or is it just an opinion because you have been scammed by one casino, no one is blaming you for their losses it's just your wrong opinion of perception, that you should correct, casinos are for entertainment you can win but you cannot make it your cash cow its a game of chance and people should understand of the house edge for the casino to continue to operate, you can always check if you've been cheated by verifying the seed.

Highly likely just a guess due to bitterness, hate or something.

Casino who have probably fair algorithm cannot cheat, you are playing with your luck. Mostly those who are saying that a casino cheats coz they lost, are those who are unlucky. Every game has its own percentage a gambler can win. Highest is 50% chance while other only 49% or below 49 which is probably the case. Having a lose streak in 7-10 bets is still possible though so if you're unlucky then try to rest after several lossing bets.

I think the problem the ops have is an obsession, because from what he explained, there is nothing like scam he played on a casino and lost 2000 that is normal but then one have take precautions when gambling most especially as a newbie. Once you have a basic knowledge of gambling, you will easily find ways to avoid scam casinos and find legitimate ones.

Self-made mistakes and looking for justification by blaming the platform. That's something I always hear when gamblers have lost their minds due to their own actions. They are greedy to cause that to happen. They want to get money quickly by gambling is a big mistake. Moreover, they can't manage their finances just because of a lust they can't resist, that's what makes them lose large amounts of money. Greed will destroy, it applies not only in the scope of gambling, but in any case. It's actually quite easy to set it all up, we only need to stop when we get the profit we have targeted, and stop when we lose the amount of money we devote to playing and having fun.

Once you gamble, expect that you will lose more, bigger from the amount you might won. So never conclude that you have been scammed because you lose a huge amount instantly. It’s just that you are not good enough that day and your luck is not working, so losing is all you’ve got. And to think that the site’s house should always win because it’s a business, then you can never tell that this is a big scam. I guess you need to understand gambling more before you engage in it to avoid future regrets.

Sadly people like OP don't know that.  They intend to gamble all their way and lose everything then blame the platform of not making them win  ;D.   This is also one of the reasons why someone who wanted to engage in gambling must know what gambling is so that they won't embarass themselves when they utter non-sense things and blame casino for cheating them LOL.  And those who are not confident with their self-control should avoid gambling because they will lose it once they engaged and got hooked on gambling.

Claiming that only 5% of betting sites are honest is a pretty far-fetched number, don't you think?
I believe that 60% to 70% are scams, maybe a little more, but 80% would be a very exaggerated number, I believe.
About the site always winning, it's not because they're stealing, it's because the math and probabilities guarantee it.
Imagine a simple game of dice where you only win if you get a combination of the same numbers on the two dice, if they are different the site takes your bet, if they are the same you take four times the amount bet.
It sounds tempting and great for the player, but statistics show that you are far less likely to win, and that is what will happen.
And that's how websites make money.

Exactly. That's why it is important to know what you are getting into specially gambling is a risky way if your goal is to make your money grow. As I have said earlier, when you gamble it's your own will and no one force you, hence regardless of the result, you must accept it. If you dont want to face losses or cant bear that to happen, then dont gamble your money and find other ways to earn. Casino is a business, some indeed win but majority are losing their money.

Gambling is done at your own risk. Winning or losing is entirely up to you. There is no point in blaming anyone in this platform. Gambling sites should not be held responsible for excessive losses. It is a different matter if a gambler gets an error in his gambling as per the condition that the site that got you in confusion regarding withdrawal or random information. But a gambler should choose a good site in the beginning. It is better to choose a site where gamblers have been gambling regularly for a long time.

Actually the gambling site that we currently use to get profit has indeed been well designed and we must know they also do not want to be harmed by every customer, the first time we use the site then the profit we will definitely feel then we will lose everything to be able to get a greater profit even though we know every site there must be a party always monitoring the movement that is taking place in every game that exists, but we forget all that because it is given such a big lure, I think the gambling site has indeed been designed so the game and some of it is indeed a scammer.

Players who are already addicted in playing gambling and losses a lot most likely blame the gambling casino itself because of their being irresponsible at the first place we know that the gambling casino just doing their job to give satisfaction and entertainment to the players and the players will play because they want to entertain themselves and also of course you cannot play in a gambling casino without having a money so it is required to make a deposit and use y our money to get entertained. For the Casino they give entertain and at the same time have an earning. To the players they get satisfied have a chance to double up their money.

Simply that online thingy were an easy way to fools people , a newcomer who just know how to gamble online doesn't really know how to selectively choose a trusted one , they randomly trusted a site and send the money in without thoroughly research how they operated and how about their track record , there a lot of fake reviews etc and you need to be very selective at this point.

we might have that kind ability to choose it selectively but not with the others and that is what the scammer looking for , they fools most of us .. the one with very low knowledge , they will always exist tho.

Even though they should be aware that gambling is not something that can be profitable every time, even though it can be profitable in gambling but this is just luck. Gambling for players is not a business that can be turned into profit at any time so indeed when we are in gambling we should be aware that this kind of loss is something that is bound to happen.
Saying a scam when you can't win and have no luck in gambling can actually be called a childish way and you should not enter into gambling if you are not ready to accept the consequences of the losses you get.

Not because it's so easy, sometimes someone is provoked by several kinds of messages or emails received. So there was curiosity in him that provoked him to try. and, when they trying to do that, then be caught in a scam. I myself often get promo offer emails in the name of gambling, but I choose to delete them immediately and filter them rather than always getting similar emails. This is the way I do to be free from scammers and from phishing.

Gambling sites was actually different with a common site in the crypto like exchange site. There are scammers who take this opportunity caused by they were aware once people wanna play and then they must have sent their money to the sites but it seems like that these days the problem that related with the gambling site is when people are feeling so difficult to withdraw their money. There are so many problems that appeared when it comes to withdraw your money to the another exchange site.
I think this is the reason some people are judge there are so many scam sites.

One thing we need to note here is that there is some difference between being scammed in the name of a gambling site and being scammed by a gambling site. Various messages may appear in email or social media in the name of gambling sites which are known as phishing sites. On the other hand, creating gambling sites is another method of scamming. Whatever the process, it is difficult to keep yourself safe without being careful.

If you put everything you own into an online gambling site than I hate to say it but that's kind of your fault and you just need to learn from it.  Never gble more than you can afford to lose.  And never leave money on the sites.  Deposit, gamble, withdraw.  Limits your risk if they aren't a reputable site.

Email messages are a way that scammers often use to get their potential victims to follow their lead.
We have to be very careful when we see the email and delete it immediately if we don't know anything and it's better to visit the site and ask further.
But usually, if someone has won money, they will start to think that the casino site is safe and they can continue playing there.
There is a way that may be safe to avoid losing a lot of money, and that is by not using a lot of money to gamble so that if the site has problems, we will not lose too much money.

and this is why we must feel sorry for Him , because he already posted a word that seems to be over reacting , have been playing for years but what I found is that there are at least 50% of online casino that scams or faced scam accusation but not that 95% because that is too much word to deliver.

or better for Him to mention those gambling sites that he thinks scam so we can check and make proper comments.

That's gambling. It's not really a scam but perhaps with the way many casinos market and promote themselves, it is probably bordering there. When casinos present themselves, they would make it look like you will make money with them. They would make it look like they are going to make you rich and that your luck is in their platforms to unlock. Those are baits of course so in a way they are like scamming you because there's clearly a dishonest and misleading presentation there. The truth is that they will take your money.

But you must be aware of this right from the start. So you're not really blind about this.

we should not opening unknown site that appear at our gadget, this is the easiest way for scammer access our data. alot people still could not differentiate between malware, phising , or true ads when it appear. i see alot scam site that use gambling identity to attract visitor and register with personal data. much of gambling site operate by fake or lier person , so we must becarefull with it.

actually you are referring to Hacking and not scamming mate , but yeah i trust your post about  data being compromised as Malwares are truly the big problem gamblers facing .

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Going back to the topic ? 95% of the gambling websites are scam isn't a thing in our system though scammers are all over the place .

After that painful experience, what's on your mind now? are you willing to continue gambling more, or you will stop now?

Since you already conclude that 95% of gambling sites are scams, I hope you won't continue gambling now and try to stick with those thoughts about gambling sites even in reality it's your fault why you lose. Your greediness turned into a lesson. With that $2,000 and 3 ETH, you become super greedy to earn more within a short period of time.

If by any means you want to gamble again although it's not advisable and recommended, stay away from casino games since you don't understand the risk there but instead focus on sports betting where you can apply real strategy aside from relying on your luck.

95% seems a bit high, but maybe just by the number of sites because there are probably thousands of scam sites out there that nobody in their right mind would ever use.  I'm sure when you consider gambling volume, a vast majority of the bets placed are legitimate.  You can never be too safe though.  If you're going to send crypto to any service, you'd better believe in their ability to send it back to you when all is said and done.  Using a reputable site over chasing a extra few scraps with advertising offers will save you a lot of heartache.

with those words comes out from his mouth ? I'm sure that either he will not choose to play in online site(that will bring him in real casino houses) or he wills top gambling at all .

while the amount is a decent and normal losing amount from gambling yet maybe he had learned His lesson here.

well, there are only few cases of sports betting to be scamming so yes it is the safe place .

I thought as this too, 95% means that almost all of the gambling sites are scams, which is not possible, as that value is too high. The OP would have been thorough if verifiable statistics could be attached to this thread to prove that the claim is right. Well, I would prefer calling it a 50/50 chance, meaning that about 50% of gambling sites are scams, it could be slightly reviewed upward to 60% at times too. It is left to the review and research of the player before joining them. I like to go for the ones with less bonus and that have been active for at least 3 years.

Op does not include data and it seems that no one has verified this yet because online casinos can operate with or without a license so it is difficult to record for sure how many actually existed and how many have dead and run with a lot of user money.
So the 95% that Op mentions are just his estimates and also the title of this thread and the discussion he conveys have no correlation at all because he only complained about his personal experience of losing money at one of the online casinos.

There is no way to say that 95% of gambling sites are scams. Also if the OP mentioned some scam sites it would have been easier to guess. I believe there are many scam in this industry but their percentage is not very high as op mentioned 95%. It may be 60-70%. Analyzing how many casino sites promoting their advertisement in this forum and how many are legit can be understood. In this case I think almost all of them can be legit.

Now online gambling platforms are gaining a lot of popularity due to which some gambling sites are now the main target of scammers. Scammers believe that gamblers invest in gambling platforms without much thought and jump there when they get a new concept, so now scammers try to scam by creating different types of casino websites. Taking drastic measures to avoid them will do more

Obviously 95% is taken from the OP's imagination, as no exact statistics were given as an example. If such a large percentage were real, then imagine how many requests and complaints would be received on such resources. And most likely this would lead to the fact that there would be a question about the legality of this direction and possibly a ban. I am sure that there are many scammers in gambling, as in many other areas, no one is safe from this. But there are many gambling websites that value their reputation and it is clear that you should only deal with them!

Of course, there are a lot of fraudulent casinos and it shows that there are a lot of people on the Internet who are not able to conduct independent research on the reputation of the gambling site. Before depositing money in the casino, it is very important to devote some time to its research. Only after making sure that the casino has been around long enough and has positive reviews, you can deposit there. And of course do not need to make a deposit casino large sums.

Not only gambling sites all online platforms have huge amount of scams. but we need to research deeply to choose genuine sites only. I think this forum is a good source to choose a good site .so , i think is anyone chooses gambling sites from this forum  .He will fall victim to very few scams

There's a number of gambling sites that scam but this figure of 95% is unacceptable as it's too much, know this that even some of those casinos that ended up being scam have started right at some certain point in time, things may not really worked out as planned by them but turning to a scam is not the best option, instead they should retrace their steps a d come in new again with improved service and offers.


Yes that's true, what makes some gamblers assume them for scam is because of their challenges in maintaining a good and well functioning site, when a gambler begin to experience withdrawal issues and KYC related challenges, they tend to distrust such gambling site as fraudulent one.

Along with good sites there will have scam sites as well. I came across a site few days ago where many users show up and their winning history is also displayed there. The amount of those winning reward was so high that it made me suspicious. After getting confused try to search some information and see their audit certificate. When contacting the certificate authority, they identify the organization as fake who also use fake certificate. So it is necessary to research the issues well before depositing any casino or gambling site.

We have to identify some information on the main page interface, because many users do not check carefully and easily believe false information on the main page. I appreciate your analysis, because you are so thorough that you confirm the audit certificate to the relevant authorities, because current documents are easy to manipulate to convince gamblers that the platform is legally registered with the authorities. So joining a new casino is very vulnerable to scam casinos so it is better to choose at the top of the list of casinos that have been labeled trust analysis from the community.

The percentage stated by OP isn't reliable because all his statement is just personal view.  Aside from that, he is blaming casino because he lost a certain amount of money which I think as an immature act.  If anyone gamble, he should be prepare to lose everything, if he is not then he must strictly discipline himself and impose self-control.  Honestly, the argument of OP become a joke when he put blames on the casino the things that he is at fault with.

Yes, this forum has a system of trust based on reviews and flags, but many users still do not use these tools and fall for scams. In addition, there are a huge number of people who do not visit this forum. Scammers are constantly inventing new ways to cheat and to stand up to them we must constantly improve our level of knowledge. Otherwise it is very easy to lose your money.

I don't believe bitsler is a scam. There are people who claims it is but they lack proof and I think until now bitsler is not proven to be guilty. The issue was so old but I wonder why you are so late to post it? I think you just played gambling lately and the same thing happened to you where you lost huge.

Gambling is not a scam but you are right that it was designed for them to earn money but gamblers don't just donate money for nothing. They do also play the game in exchange of that. It was like when you go to the fiesta or carnival and you play games there in hopes of getting some prizes. There are literal scam sites and they do this because they want easy money.

No it wasnt a scam.It is really just people do really call out that they are a scam.They are ones the most popular dice game back in the past and even up to now which its reputation is known
and still considerable on going to be part of the market crypto gambling industry.It is really just a normal behavior for people to call things a scam whenever they do lose.They would really be mainly
talking about on being non fair or rigged which is really a very common mindset and impression into those people who cant just accept the fact that gambling in longer runs do means losing.
If you are really that hesitated when it comes to scam then its always been ideal on sticking on whats the current popular sites that we do have today.

In the past there were not much of people into the cryptomarket. Same as that is the usage of gambling platforms with cryptocurrency acceptance. Over the years the growth have caused big change in the usage of cryptocurrencies on different needs. This has given good visibility to cryptocurrency usage on different needs and more scammers have started to find ways to scam the new comers. Here gambling platforms too isn't an exception.

If gamblers invest in gambling platforms without looking for more info and just pick randomly, I'm afraid they won't be able to get anything in the future.
The scammers are still looking for other ways besides using proven ways to deceive people and will keep trying.
Before we decide anything, it's better to research and wait a bit to avoid the scams common to people who do not search for anything.
Maybe it would be better if we invest in coins that already have names like bitcoin, ethereum, bnb, and others.

or maybe many users here still don't pay attention nor exploring the forum that's why they come to be a victim , and also some of them are still trying to push their luck with big promises in which mostly the way of scammers to attract players.

but we are thankful because of our awareness as we are not becoming one of the victims , sorry for others that does  not checking even this section for their own awareness.

I think people who are new to casinos are more likely to fall into this trap. Many people don't take the time to learn about the overall issue of their tempting offer. But those who are able to have a little knowledge of the subject on this forum will not usually run into such problems.

It's not that they are winning and gamblers are losing but we can just say that gamblers are only paying them to use their service to relax with their ambiance and to get entertained by playing the game. Other than that, its also possible for the gamblers to win sometimes or as soon as their luck hits them assuming that the casino is also legit because no one wins on a scam casino no matter how hard your luck hits you.

It's not the fault of gambling when people drains their money. It happens because they are simply not responsible for their actions. They let their greed eat them alive. Gambling is beneficial if only we know how to control ourselves.

It's up to the player if he will be victimized by the scammed gambling websites because you can't really eliminate and control the legitimate and fake websites from spreading. Some gambling website started as legit, but ended up scamming their players later on. While some websites are consistent legitimate from the start up to date. It's a matter of being wise in background checking here in forum and in other sites to gather information if a casino has a reputable and trusted history or not.

If you are a type of player that is naive and impulsive, you will be most likely victimized by the gambling casinos that are pretending to be legitimate and worthy. With this being said, it is really essential for us to take action before deciding to go with something. Before trusting and officially entering the gambling site as a player, we must gather proofs such as unbiased reviews supporting that that certain casino will be worth the penny and won't be a trouble for us. Knowing if the casino has a good customer service should be one of the list. Other features you prefer in a casino must be listed too to avoid regrets in the future.

I don't agree with your opinion that 95% of online gambling websites are scams and I guess so is the community, based on this pot you have lost money because you've played, and you have yourself to blame for thinking that you can beat the casino you can beat the house but not on your expectation, casinos are built to be an entertainment portal not a way to make money, if you want to make money invest your money on other investment programs, gambling can wipe your money in one session, the casino did not take your money, you just let it take your money, don't gamble if you expect to win, casinos always have a good chance to win against you.

Scammers always keep very simple task amd high profit and bonus system on there platform for attract greedy gamblers. And when they get huge investment then they stop that site and create a new one for scamming in same way. So every gamblers must check every gambling site License when he going for gamble on any site. and must be careful for every single investment in any casino site

it is necessary to be wary of gambling sites that are not clear and provide unreasonable bonuses. As a gambler, don't just look at big bonuses, but also do research on the casino sites you want to join. Scammers very easily create several gambling websites in just a matter of hours. They have many backup websites of course and with almost the same method, but different ways of trapping the victim.

yup scammer always use something similar concept for there every casino site. so we should focus on every casino sites concept. if we seen a similar concept on new upcoming gambling site then we shouldn’t choice that for gamble where there are huge trusted gambling site available on the online space. but a new concept can be use for something new experience but it should be very carefully

Why are you repeating the same thing I said ?

Either you have not understood my context or you might have understood but just adding more points to it.
Whatever it be, the thing is that to conclude a site is scam just because we lost money gambling in it is wrong.
A scam is something when the site has taken your money willingly without your approval.

I think all who know about this forum are able to choose good gambling sites from this forum but those who don't know about this forum are always cheated by different type of gambling sites. Although there are millions of accounts on this forum so far, many crypto users still don't know about this forum. And gamblers outside of this forum are getting scammed relatively more

It is quite unfortunate if you may have gambled an amount you can't afford to lose. Because thats what happens at times when a gambler becomes too greedy and not having a personal gambling schedule. And secondly, I see no relationship between you losing $2000 and the title of this thread given about "95% online gambling websites being a scam" because from what you explain above, you equally lost the money due to gambling and not that you got scammed, as these are two different things altogether.  So next time,  please try to gamble with an amount you can afford to lose so that it doesn't affect you again if the game doesn't go as planned

There's always a consequence on every actions that you are making specially when dealing up with gambling which we know that this one is really that too risky if you arent that mindful when it comes to spending
or just simply with your finances that had been used.You would basically be pointing out fingers for someone you do really blame once you do experience those unfortunate events.
You would say its a scam just because it had break out on what you are expecting which is to make wins and profit out.You could definitely make out some verification or fairness check
if you have doubts about being rigged.Once you do prove out its fair then for sure you would definitely shut your mouth.

This number is absolutely wrong. Individually, a player can play 10 times on a betting site and get ripped off 9x. But what exactly do we mean by the term scam? Unfortunately, what we often see is that players have to wait a long time for their payout at a casino or other gambling site. Is it a scam if the player cancels this payout himself and starts gambling with this money? we can't call that a scam. If accounts are closed, yes. There are also players who have violated the terms and conditions and then complain that they have been scammed because the winnings have been confiscated. That is not a scam either. Players are often quick to use the term scam when it is actually not a scam.

observing and observing each site is an obligation because it could be that the site is a clone of a problematic and irresponsible site. they will always make a new one if the old one is considered not to provide a decent profit or is already known by the gambler.

there will always be a gap from casino site connoisseurs (gamblers) that they will always be tempted by a very high bonus, but the bonus is sometimes not easy to get, obviously it will be regulated with its own provisions, which will always happen like that and be repeated, but still only if the gambler has plunged will forget. it is very ensnaring, so that gamblers can not leave them, but once they have plunged into gambling it is difficult to let go. remember this is real.

if the OP will stick to the top casinos found in this forum, he won't be scammed. maybe, he experienced bad losses from casinos, hence, spreading a misleading statement about casinos. in gambling, expect losses. but it doesn't mean that you got scammed because you lost. that's part of any gambling activities.
maybe i can agree that most casinos outside this forum has a high rate of scamming players. but it is your own choice where to play.

Unfortunately, not all gamblers know this forum and that’s why some are still playing with the scam site and sooner or later they will realize that mistake and will finally came here to announce that he got scammed. Losing in gambling is normal and the site wont ruin their reputation just to manipulate the system, because its already obvious that the house will always win and we can’t expect to always win as well, gambling is more about your luck, if feel unlucky stop gambling right away.

However, that was a different case in OP.

OP played in a legit and considered reputable site but loses a big amount because of maybe, greediness and not properly managing the bankroll.

I can't believe that in such an amount, OP never managed to hit even good multipliers playing on casinos. Maybe just betting high stakes per spin in order to gain rush profits and the result turned into bad.

Yes, they will always provide offers that can make people tempted to get them.
And people who are never careful and research the program will be able to get scams that they will regret after knowing it.
And if it's a new site, it's best not to risk signing up there because we don't know anything about it.
It's better to wait for someone else to do it because we don't want to get scammed.

This kind of scam gambling website has a strategic plan before they do an exit scam. First, they will allow withdrawals and after a couple of months, their system will have a problem when withdrawing your funds but you can still deposit and play on their websites and even if you won, you will still need to wait.

But, they are just hoarding money from players, and obviously, they will start to scam people by announcing that they have been hacked.

Scams strategies can vary widely. They can sometimes trick you with a phishing site and sometimes they can trick you with a simple but attractive webpage. But if a gambler is not experienced then he is more likely to be cheated by depositing in those scam sites. For that reason, the gambler should refrain from depositing on any unknown site as soon as he sees any lucrative offer.