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I'm sure by now you have read about a casino review site where the admins are trusted members of Bitcointalk, which  I believe is good for the community because they have a good roadmap and we all know their capability as gambling reviewers
but what if reputable members here decided to put their own casino will you support them and will this become a conflict of interest if they are already or have promoted casinos in the present or in the past, what's your take on this?
Maybe in the future, we'll have one.

Why not? If they can show that they have available huge amount to pay to their possible winners then they can legitimately run a business here. Also there are forum users like @lightlord which is donator on this forum running a business and there are other more.

If new reputable forum user will create a new casino well maybe the same with other we still need to be vigilant because there reputation will not count since what matter the most is the way handle the casino and how it perform.

I don't mind if games in the platform are provably fair and there's proof that funds are available for the casino. Maybe it's a plus if team owners are composed of known BTT members.

Well, it could have a negative impact on the image/branding of the casino if the platform was already launched and they're still promoting another one. Some people might also think owners don't have enough money. If they stopped, then all good.

Yeah, why not especially if these reputable members already have some good background on gambling-related things and how to run it. If ever there will be a casino that will be created by members of the forum, I think they will collaborate with some existing casinos and will try to offer all the things that other casino lacks either on design, games and services.

No, I don't think that it will be a conflict of interest if ever they did promote some casinos before as those will only prove that they had a background in gambling and casinos. Also, I don't think that existing users will try to create a casino as there are already reputable members that are already in collaboration with some online casinos on their promotions, advertisements, and other services.

my support will depend on how the member/s handles the Casino. supporting someone's Business(in this case an online casino) should not be based on whether he/she is a reputable member of this forum. anyway, if a reputed member of this forum decides to create his/her own casino I'll have high expectations but my support will still depend on how he/she handles the casino.

I will not give them special treatment but will definitely look at how they handle issues and questions about their casino, but I'm sure they are fully aware of how a good casino does their business, so I expect a high standard because they are experienced and they know the casino business, there's a possibility that we already have members that are already running casinos but they are handling it with their alternative account, Lighlord is considered a member of this forum being one of the early donators and he has proven that an admin can also be part of Bitcoin community.

Definitely.

I've been playing with PrimeDice for a long time now and Stunna has been amazing and active all throughout the years, addressing lots of concerns himself and directing the said platform to success. Now with Stake, he's even more active and even more engaging with a lot of us members in here. Some successful casinos and exchanges were spawned from this very forum over the years, although obviously not every platform made it up to now.


Why would there be a conflict of interest? If they reviewed previous casinos, does that mean that they shouldn't have the right to create their own? As long as they are not tarnishing other crypto casinos' name, it's fine by me.

It depends. In the end, I'm a customer and the casino would be a business, if the business fails to live up to a set of standards that I've set beforehand, then even if I was a member of BTCtalk, I wouldn't support it. The only thing it has an advantage of compared to others is that I at least know to a certain point the team behind it and I know how to contact them or make them notice my issue directly without any difficulty, not to mention that this forum would be similar to the forums of some casinos so the community would've already been set in stone even before the casino was fully fleshed out, making discussions about it rather abundant.

I don't think there'd be much conflict, most managers here were hired and that's it. As long as they don't multi manage (if allowed then ig its okay) I think it's fine.

I'm sure they know what they are doing and will come out with the best casino that members of Bitcointalk can trust and enjoy, they know the business well they know the in and out and they know what players are looking for, I can easily trust them but will treat them like all the other casinos here, I will criticize when there's a need to criticize and will suggest when there's something they overlooked and I'm sure they will try to establish a good reputation here since they have names to protect here and it took them years to established these names.

A reputable bitcointalk member starting a casino will try as much  as possible to ensure that his casino is of quality having been exposed to the casino environment and other reputable casino's that have active campaigns here. I would support a casino operated by a not just any bitcointalk member, but trusted and reputable members.

I think it's okay for a reputable member to create a casino, however just because the member has a good reputation doesn't mean the casino already has a guaranteed good reputation. We have to know how to separate things, a person may be good at investigating scammers and scam casinos, but that person will be a failure in running a casino. That's why even if a reputable member creates a casino and posts it here on the forum people should look at the casino with the same eyes of suspicion they have when a new casino is posted on the forum


I agree with you, but we can't forget that as new altcoin creators do on this forum, casino guys are the same thing: in the first few days they are very active on the forum, but after months they disappear from the forum and claim that they are very busy, It's always like that

Yes if they have good bonuses and promotion that is better on the existing crypto casino. Trust issue on crypto casino is not a big deal anymore because there are already many casino that proved there honesty for more than many years of operating without any major issue. So even if the casino is owned by trusted user here or not as long as they provide a good service and have a gambling license then I don’t mind playing at all on this casino.

This owner background thing is not a huge factor anymore on choosing casino due to a lot of available reputable casino out there.

Indeed, if one of the trusted members here in the forum manages to create a casino, it will receive the support of the majority and I am one of them. I don't think trusted members here will find it difficult to manage the project, especially if they have a lot of money.

This can still be done and indeed why not as long as they can be fair and indeed have a good reputation I have no problem playing there although indeed this can still be called testing but I'm fine.
We gamble not only to see who is behind the casino but whether they can be honest and not carry the name bitcointalk I think I will be happy with that because of course indirectly if there is then they are friends but in the principle of friendship is different from business so even if they are on the forum but when it comes to bad casinos why play there.

why not, I will support it if the platform they offer is honest and fair, just like what they used to do before
I don't think future conflicts will happen because everyone wants to have innovations in their lives, starting as a gambling promoter in the forum, developing into a casino owner.

It's great if the reputable members of BTC-talk will get together and form a casino. It will be one efficient platform where we can all gather and gamble while discussing with each other here in the forum.
I think that this is a good idea and I'd like to see the results. I do hope it will happen one day.

However, I think it's important that the casino should be fair, because if a lot of people are going to put their money into this casino, they want to know that they won't get cheated or scammed. This kind of project requires a lot of time and effort. It's not something that can be done in just a few days or weeks. 

By the way, what casino review site where the admins are trusted members of Bitcointalk are you talking about?

We know this forum has the freedom for anyone who wants to advertise their gambling / casino site, as long as they comply with the rules that have been set, regardless of whether they have a good or bad reputation.

We here often see old or current casinos, they operate and stop and then resume, I don't think it's a big problem for them and supporters, as long as they are comfortable using the site.

Talking about conflict depends on the situation, if they have a good reputation from the past until now, I don't think it's an obstacle for them to want to continue and get support here and vice versa pros and cons remain.

Depending on what is considered support. It is unlikely that I will play in a new casino, regardless of who owns it. I already use the services of casinos that completely suit me and they are the market leaders with a capitalization (and turnover) of hundreds of millions of dollars, what's the point of switching to a new project and taking risks if there are already reliable options?

If any member of this forum will open his own casino and his services will meet the criteria of the community, then why not. He may well start a signature campaign to reward forum members who will support his casino. I think this is a great way to get a reputation, because for many people reputation plays a major role in choosing a gambling site. 

Why not? I will support them. They say charity begins at home. But it will depend on the members and their reputation that will be at stake in a situation like if there is a scam accusation or delayed payment problem at the casino, it will affect their reputation here and can get them tagged. It will be double jeopardy. They will be having problem at the casino and at the same time having tag issue at the forum. It is going to be a bigger risk on their side even.

I don't think that start-up altcoins are created by any trusted and reputable member of the forum and most of them are only a partner or a collaboration to these reputable members of the forum. Also, new altcoins are much prone to scamming as there are a lot of them out there and almost anyone can create a new token.
I don't think that these reputable members will also try to avoid conversation here at the forum other than if they planned to scam users from the start.

As a community, I am sure most of us will support the casino a fellow member of this forum will establish. As you said, they are a reputable member of this forum, so it means we can at least trust that he will run the casino fairly and our funds are safe.


I do not think it will be a conflict of interest if it is in the past. But surely, it will be a conflict of interest if he still continues to promote other casinos while establishing his own. As a reputable member of this forum, he should inform the casino he is promoting that he is establishing his own casino and drop his promotion already. It does not look good for his reputation if he continues to work under different casinos while establishing a competition.

for me in my personal opinion yes its good than seeking legitimate platform around the internet coz it's very skeptical and you don't know how safe it is at the first place.. Not the same from trusted members within this forum that you can assure that your capital is safe and you can get true information when it comes gambling platform. So it would be better and safe and totally a good suggestion than anything when it comes choosing a good platform.

Of course, but first I will search first his background whether he got a previous accusations or not it is easy to find since it is already in or profile. And of course we need to make sure that the website is legit and has a good security services that will not give us any problem in the future since it will be very hard for us to lose money.

When the website was good enough,the people here will support for sure.Many people will good feedback will be hired by the good project. The good feedback will not lose his potential and position for the fake or scam project.Because they will earn some good money from the bitcointalk.But the fact is some people selling their trust for certain amount of money.To start the own casino,the people need huge money as the investment.They should try to take a risk,because huge old trusted projects are their.The people should take competition with the old reputable project,So it’s very tough competition for them.They will keep pump the project to the next level.It take huge dedication towards the project.Bitcointalk members also had a potential to this game.

It would be a waste of money for the member to spend so much in developing yet turned into a scam.

But there were already some casinos owned by bitcointalk member, Stunna was said to be one which he owns Primedice and Stake afaik. It becomes reputable which many users have been wearing its signature.

Most casinos so far have accounts in the forum. Playbetr  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562960) of course own the http://www.playbetr.com/

I'd only support them if they do a good job since their reputation as a member won't help much if they can't run a casino properly. It doesn't matter if they promoted other casinos back then because the main focus now is the casino they're trying to run.

That still depends on the quality of their service in the long run since good feedbacks are just temporary and i've experienced gambling sites that started out great then they slowly lost their quality as they can't keep up with the competition between other gambling sites.

I would like to see a project like that, created by the community and managed by them.

Start a casino business isn't easy at all, you need to be sure that your code is secure enough to go online, then you need a bankroll and then a license.

So, isn't simple but isn't impossible, and the main factor for success is the trust, so if the casino is managed by trusted members of this forum then they should get a huge amount of new costumers.

If a trusted and wise member in highlighting any case, I definitely support why not, but starting a new big casino is not easy because it requires a lot of funds. Could be start from a small business crypto casino like dice blackjack etc, but it still requires a lot of money. It also takes a long process to become big and popular, in the midst of competition from other trusted casinos that are already popular.

It will definitely be a "plus" for them to be known in this forum as highly trusted members.
But, we should not stop there. You are protecting your own money so double-checking is not a bad idea. I mean, it should still be done with priority.
Many forum members have already done it and they stayed long in the business. 777, Bitvest, and more. I am sure many forum members will support them but it will also depend on many things. Features, options for payment, withdrawal fees, UI, availability of games, etc...

Why not as long as they are providing good user experience and fairness in the results. Bitcointalk is a great platform to reach the crypto community all around the world and that is why many people started their career from here even reached the bigger heights which they didn't even dreamt of.

Support each other and spread love, so we can grow strong together... :)

Obviously yes, why not? If its %100 legit business with clear information on their functions and operations its a yes on my side. Bitcointalk forum members are in general very capable and listening people. Its better to gamble through someone from here so, anytime you have issue you can write dms to community manager here (I assume that kind of guy would assign community member to bitcointalk forums). There are businesses flourished in these forums already.

By support, do you mean by marketing signature or going to the Casino to play? What is there for me to look at as a primary key is a reputation, if the member has a reputation to protect, I might give it a try but I will do that with caution because trying a new casino is like trying a new place with risk but on second thought, I don't think any member here would even do that because most of the ones here all have their account register as customer support or maybe as an Alt just avoid any past discussions argument affect their business. As long as the casino doesnt scam or don't cheat, I will give them a try.

Why not. I see that operating casinos are gradually moving towards traditional regulation (KYC/AML) so at some point there may be a niche that can be filled by those who are present on this forum. If it is a project with a verifiable source code (or better, a decentralized casino on a smart contract or something like that), then I will use it. It seems to me that the creation of such a project would be in the tradition of this forum.

Admins and trusted members of Bitcointalk already have an idea of how to run a casino so I will definitely support them. The legitimacy and reputation of a casino that they will build for sure will always have an advantage. If they could handle this platform, I'm sure that they're also knowledgable on running a legit casino site.
It's actually better to support trusted Bitcointalk members because they're aware of the user's demands and feedback on other casino sites so they already know how to provide a good service.

There are obvious exceptions to this rule of course. Reputable casinos that sprang from this very forum always have staff or representatives that still answers to questions up to this day whenever they have the time. They still engage with the community and gather feedbacks whenever possible. These same casino guys can also be found on their respective chatboxes on their platforms, so there will always be a way to contact them. And they will answer too, based on my experience.

There are already several betting and gambling platforms created and managed by bitcointalk users.

This Is something pretty natural at least to me... Of course they have the "same rules to be followed" as other platforms reported here on forum.
Of course this Is not a guarantee for avoiding a scam... But a reputable user with a big platform Its pretty sure Will avoid any mistake....

If it's just about the support, I'm sure that many will do that, especially if the people involve are reputable people in the forum. I don't see any conflict of interest in it.
But I think we've seen some of them already, they may not have the whole control of the casino but a few reputable members were involved in the business operations like being in the marketing team.
And the few that I know that owns the entire casino like stake, duelbits, bitvest, 777coin, bitsler and the others are also part of the forum and they're members.

Have several casino gambling operated by Bitcointalk member actually with account have good reputation but failed to manage with trusted Casino gambling, I don't claimed about Bitcointalk member can't trusted but knowledge and less research did with new casino advertising in this Bitcointalk forum still not fully understand. Several here just manage and promoting only with casino gambling without have access operated and know detail with casino gambling site advertising, passive income and how much money building with casino gambling several Bitcointalk member operated casino gambling do not know.

Better with Bitcointalk have good reputation advertising trusted casino than have promote with new casino without know about details and actually fund raised.

if the online casino is owned by a member with a good reputation on this forum, why should I hesitate to play there?

btw, I'm sure there are some trusted members on this forum who are running and marketing their crypto gambling site business, it's just that to maintain their reputation, they don't announce it

what you should know is running a gambling business is not easy, so it's not just anyone who manages to do that

I usually like to play at a casino if it is good, reputed and trusted.  I never look at who is the owner of the casino or in most cases the owner doesn't reveal themselves and that's also fine with me unless and until the casino in question is a good one.
So if the bitcointalk reputed members or any member makes their casino, there is nothing wrong with it unless they provide good services to the community. Secondly, if the developers are already reputed members my confidence in the casino will increase further.

Your question reminds me the gold era of moneypot years ago, I remember there was a moneypot app which was owned by one of reputable bitcointalk members "yahoo62278".
At that time yahoo is reputable member already in this forum IIRC, for sure most bitcointalk members supported his project.
There is no need to take it as conflict of interest because of the past experience of promoting other casinos, that was a part of improvement/development.
So it is simple, we have to support the casino owned by reputable members in this forum as long as he/she is operating it professionally.

The issue with Moneypot was the owners of the platform decided to be shady. Someone on the team had access to the server and cheated the investors out of a ton of money essentially causing the ruination of the project. Otherwise, I would still be operating my site.

Moneypot was a great platform that allowed users with little to no bankroll an opportunity to get into business. Would love to see that come back but be operated with a little better management.

There’s no reason we will not support them because have known them to become trustworthy and have become reputable members over a period of time. This is even an edge for them instead since they are more inclined into gambling casinos rather than seeing those new gamblers managing their own casinos. Also, for me this is not a conflict of interest, what’s in the past does not matter at all, if they are more capable today, that’s more important.

As far as they are reputable/trusted members in this forum, I will support them. It is good to have Casino operators from this forum members, it means that this forum also contributes to providing trusted online Casinos. I am sure that there are many gambling experts among this forum members. We can see that the discussions on gambling boards are very active and many members engaged in the discussion. Sometimes, the discussion is very technical about Casino, and many forum members can have good ideas about it. It simply indicates that many forum members have the capability to be Casino operators.

Like what I always mentioned on similar posts like these, an essential feature of a gambling website are positive feedback and reviews from its current players. If the online gambling casino website contains positive reviews, then it is more reason than enough for me to at least try it out. Another thing, the fact that the gambling website is also operated by bitcointalk members imply that it will have an active customer support system- which is definitely a must.

I also do not think that it will be a conflict of interest. Given that there is a lot of competition nowadays, it is nothing but normal for people to create their own venture and explore this type of profit-making.

It will depend on some factors:
- WHo are they, if they have trust, potential, and also experience, it can be considerable.
- WHat kind of gambling platform that is? We should also need to analyze if the gambling platform is legit or not or potential or not like we also analyze the gambling platform from a non-Bitcointalk member.
Although the platform is created by the Bitcointalk member, I will also consider and analyze ethe platform, it is done professionally. As long as they will give more reputation and trust, offering an interesting platform with more easiness, why not? But if they seem like not being professional enough, I think it must be considered twice again.

Their reputation here is a big plus, but that is not my basis of playing because even a new gambling site came here with a less reputation even if they don’t have good history here they succeeded simply because they offer a good services and they host a good marketing campaign, in short my decision of playing will only be based the platform itself and will not be base on anyone’s reputation, many site started from the scratch. If a top member here offer a good new platform, I’m pretty sure it will be a big success for him.

Where is the conflict then, obviously if you are not a gambling operator or partly own a crypto base casinos then you should stop promoting other casinos because that is not a good business model to begin with.

And with that, yes I will support that new casinos just like what I did with some of casinos that are popping up in the gambling board. I sort of like to test that casino first and see how it goes. If I like them then I will continue to play with them, simply as that. Hmm, it seems that you are aware that a member here is planning to have their own casinos? or this is what you are seeing in the future?

Already different gambling platforms were backed by reputable Bitcointalk members, so it won't be something different to consider. Whether it is from the Bitcointalk members or from a person who is new to the community, there is a need of specific things in the platform. When it gets fulfilled, automatically it'll receive the support of the gamblers.

From the very beginning we've got more cryptocurrency accepted gambling platforms turn successful through our forum as the key place for promotion. It need to be understood that gambling sites unlike the ownership it is getting good support.

Everyone does have the rights on running their business, doesnt matter if they are really that been hired or been part of some gambling site team in the past.
We do have our own will when it comes to various things and also its your money that had been used on raising or building up that business.Therefore, no one has the right on stopping on what
venture or career you would be taking on.It would really just matter on how that person do make out good explanation on what career he had chosen.
For sure he would really be getting some recognition on this forum specially if he's a reputable or known on this place but well everything cant be sure
because it would be depending on how good his site is and the offering it does have.

I'll support it. they have an insight on what a casino should be based on their experience as a poster, reviewers, and players of casinos, they will combine these insights and experience to create a casino that the gambling community will play and support if newbie gambling operators can come out and operate a casino and just learn the casino operation later why not experienced members of this forum, I'm sure they will do better.

Definitely, I will support if ever a reputable member of this forum decided to put up his own casino.  I also don't think that playing on the newly setup casino of a member in this forum will be a conflict of interest.  Gamblers always wanted to try a newly created platform to test his luck and somehow check if the "beginners luck" can kick in.  Besides, if we see that the casino platform is promising then I think it won't be a conflict of interest if we decided to stay on that casino.

We've seen how the early members have responded to the casinos being backed up by co-member of the forum. And most of them have become reputable and known not just on their own usernames but also to the casino that they've launched. It's just sad to see that some of those reputable casinos owned by our co forum members are starting to be disliked by some of their customers because of the issues that they're facing. But hopefully those new that might be launched in the future will be also getting the same support as what the first casinos have received.

It would be a great privilege for me and a big plus to the community. If the member is trusted and has all the needed financial, material, and manpower resources that would make the casino successful, then I would give him all the support by playing games. And I am sure in the nearest future some members would achieve this feat and with the experience they have acquired from this forum, it would be very successful.

If the member is still managing or promoting a different casino, he has to resign and focus on his own casino. There is no way he can successfully promote or give his best to two firms that offer the same competitive services. I am sure there are tendencies that there would be a clash of interests. He would definitely love and work harder for the success of his own casino firm, more than the one he is hired to promote.

My first answer would be no for the same reasons as many member pools I used to join back when mining regularly, amateur hour can be a painful experience for all involved even when I have sympathy for those struggling in running it.    If somehow you can come up with a gambling site that doesnt require handling balances at least to start off with then maybe I believe there is a chance of getting off to a decent start to continue and improve establishing a good site and eventual casino setup.

There are already reputable members here that runs casino for long time , though most of them gathers their reputation over time as they are well known to be owner of those casino still they managed to maintain their names and become more trusted long time.

so it always depend on what kind of person or account is this and what will his plans, actually there can be something good or not to come with this, because what if that reputable account decided to sell His account to casino operators and that operators mishandled the account then what will happen?

as we have seen many reputable account turns out scammers just because of Money so chances are always there.

But as long as the casino runs smooth and better? then yeah I will trust that site but of course starting with small amount as I already have my set of trusted site that i often played.

I thought that would be good. but about whether it supports or not then I will see the development first. But I feel there will be many who support it. especially if he has a very good reputation here. then there is no reason not to believe it. We even trust a lot the owners of people we don't know before. then of course we will trust the owner who is a member of this forum with the good trust he has got in this forum. I'm optimistic it will be a good thing to try.

Whether the operator is a bitcointalk member or not is not the important thing. There are already crypto casinos whose owners have accounts here. Lately, there was also a member of this forum who also had a stake in a newly launched casino. But it doesn't mean anything. What is important is that the casino is operating fairly and well. In the end, players will support a casino not simply because the owner is a member of the forum but because it offers good features and fun games.

Even how reputable the Bitcointalk members each , of course they need to prove their quality of service first and of course their capability to run and sustain that said casino , because there are so many casino online that exist now and we knew how hard to compete with the old timer and popular.
but i am willing to try and play in the said site if the member is truly active about gambling and not just jumping to the business because of the possible profit , as this will distinguish their capacity to handle Gamblers issue in the future.
+1 ... Support is what we keep in asking if how they will manage to answer and provide for each gamblers problem that will surely occur over time.

The Betfury casino investors who own BFG tokens I think can be considered the owners of the casino and share the revenue with them. So yes There is no problem with forum members owning a casino as long as they didn't scam.

What is more problematic is if the casino doesn't have an account here where if a user post an accusation thread, no one will answer to it who represents the casino.

well , we all hates scams so indeed that they should only prove about not being scam and provide gambling site that will serve gamblers in best manner they can bring.
there are several casinos that we heard that facing issue while they have no account or ANNThread here so indeed that we need to at least have an account here with reputation to give assurance for gamblers like us.

In that hypothetical case, the creators of the casino would have the advantage that many of us would try it out, but it would also depend on the effort and investment they make. If they made an Ann in concessions, plus advertising with a signature campaign, for example, and the site had good functionality and offered promotions, then it would probably be successful.

If the project was carried out by members of the forum but in a mediocre way, then despite the initial push that we forum members could give it, we would not gamble on it when there are so many better options on offer.

There's nothing wrong to make a promotion here with their gambling casino because they want to launch it and some of the members are having a good time giving feed back for the services, user experience and etc. for the better quality of service of the casino would give and also it is good too to make a background checking before making a full service to them with the feed back of other players already, and also if you really want to support them why not to take a try to play by that at your own perspective you can try if their gambling casino is suitable fro your needs.

Yes I would promote them if they have been a recognisable member from the forum who has been around for some time and has a good trust rating. Let's say a new member who signed up 6 months ago and has already negative trust reviews, then of course I wouldn't support that casino. In my opinion the bitcointalk community is great, we have many members here who have been around 5+ years and if they would decide to run their own casino, we should help them.  I don't think this would be a conflict of interest if you promoted different casinos in the past. Opening and running your own casino requires a lot of money, experience and time. Without having some knowledge about the industry it's not a good idea to open your own casinos. So maybe working with casinos in the past and promoting their business helped to gain a better understand of how casino operates and also helped to save up money to start your own business one day.

I don't see any problems supporting such casino and I don't see any conflict of interest if they have promoted some other casinos before.I like the idea to have one such casino but the problem is that there are already quite some reputable casinos offering the best games to gamblers and they have huge budget compared to members of Bitcointalk which I think compared to these casinos their budget to be much more limited and thus not being able to compete at a serious level with the other reputable casinos.That is why we have not see one such casino as of yet,I think because of the budget limitation.

Your comment has also opened my eyes to another fact I did not consider when I said it can get the forum member in trouble in the forum once his casino is found to lack credibility. So it can also drag this entire forum into shame and disrepute too and cause IP ban for some of our members from their government if the casino is found to be a scam and the owner is found to be a member from here. The best will be members here hiding their identities to operate their casinos.

This is a good question, and you never can tell if anyone is already working on that. Gaming and gambling are paying big time, so anyone could venture into it when experienced and have adequate manpower and financial capacity. But the capital to start might be bigger than expected if you would want to be vast and secure the site and the data of your customer.

Back to your question, Yes, I will support the person because he/she is our own. I believe others would do the same thing too.

In a way I would but this casino will have to deliver a service above average as they know better what makes a good casino and a bad casino because these discussions are on the forum which is to give them an advantage over the competition !
 Besides if am going to be referring other users to such a platform as their clientele isn't limited to bct, their services need to speak for itself not because we know the people behind the casino.... Its just business !!

The difference in my approach toward casino operated by bitcointalk member and other casino will be expressed in obligatory testing this casino and giving a review on a forum, and not skipping that casino, because "we already have plenty of them here". I am sceptical in testing everything new. Especially if money are involved. But I will try to build that casinos reputation (good or bad). I will risk a bit of my money to write free and honest review.

why not, of course I will support it. Building an online gambling site is not easy and requires a lot of effort and costs. When a Bitcointalk member with a good reputation manages a gambling site and promotes it here is certainly the right place. most importantly the casino site can provide some work for other members by running a signature campaign or something.

I have no doubt that members/gamblers here are going to support it. This is a niche community, and with that everyone is moving in a small area that sometimes we all knew each others.

So if we heard that a casino is being operated by one of us, then we will go and play and see our experience. And another beneficial thing for the casino owner is that he will have a lot of constructive criticism from us that they needed so that the casino can be improved.

As I said, I will only try new projects if, for some reason, I see a big benefit from using them. No bonus of 10-50-100 dollars will lure me away from the usual services that I use. But if a new project comes up with something really interesting then why not. But to be honest, it's hard to come up with something innovative in gambling (and if you can, it will be something illegal like squid game ;D ).

But members of this forum are already part of different crypto casinos being promoted here. This is already a reality and as far as I know nobody sees it as conflict of interest. It is actually positive, because a casino can become more trustworthy in gamblers' eyes if managed by a reputable member of the forum. And I would say if it wasn't for this fact, signature campaigns wouldn't exist anymore. Thanks to these cadinos' managers who are also part of the bitcoin community we have access to such opportunities.

Why not, this is a promising business for anyone. I think some of the established members here likely have it even though they didn't publicly tell us about it.

After all, being the owner of a casino does not require you to have a good reputation but you may need to have a lot of funds from the start. Your bankroll must be strong from the start to support your business to grow and pay users winnings, otherwise you will lose the competition. Then rather than that, you also need to set aside funds for promotion because it will obviously help your business grow.

Why not? as long as they meet up to the standard of the requirements for a good and reputable one they will always have the support, patronage and full hands of the forum members and beyond, but in other to make this happen ad expected, their services must not in any means be substandard, we know what we gain from other casinos out there and yours must notbbe elan exceptional in terms of quality delivery, follow the normal protocols and experience a better patronage amd most importantly the functionality of your site must be always in accurate position, don't give room to any means whereby you will be suspected for scam related offenses with your services.

OP, you'll probably get easier data if you create a poll thread for the same question. But sadly, you didn't make it.

I tried to give an easy answer to your question. In my opinion, support or not really depends on the interpretation of each user because not all gamblers have the desire to try new casinos that have not been proven to be reputable. You shouldn't trust anyone online, that's an important point. One may be highly reputable for successful trades, smooth loans or for other positive feedback. My answer depends - but I don't want to gamble right now.

It doesn't matter if our members operate the casino in this forum, and most importantly, the members have a good reputation and are also active in the gambling section. Dan understands to operate it and also has a large fund for the casino it runs, so it's fine with me and I'll try to get involved.
and the coolest thing is to understand what we want and also without problems in terms of transactions, besides these members often discuss and solve problems together and think we are the same to help and support each other.

That's a good idea. A poll can give him insight regarding the pulse of the gambling community in the forum.
Anyway, he can still add it if he will read your suggestion and see what the position of the users here.
But if the casino is handled by known and reputable members, why not?
Because the advantage here, is that you can easily reach them if you need help from their side.
As they don't want to ruin their reputation, they will for sure resolve the issues as soon as possible.
They have seen and heard already what the players would want from a casino, so they should be the one implementing it also.

I would be okey with it if they showed a very good grade of transparency and professionalism while operating such business.
Also, I don't think the fact some of the people behind a new casino previously promoted another casino would be a problem, there are many examples of engineers, scientists, chefs, programmers who worked for a company before starting their own business within the same field, it is just matter of public relation management, quitting a job or position does not mean it was a bad one, it just means one needed to in order to pursue better chances or for the sake of one's family, etc...

I don't fully understand what kind of conflict of interest you mean, everyone is free to be the owner of whatever business they want even if they want to own their own casino.

Maybe you never know how many users of this forum own an altcoin project and profit from it. You should see something like this as a profitable business opportunity especially if you are financially knowledgeable or otherwise. You have to realize that the aim of the gambling industry is to make a profit, but they are also obliged to provide the convenience and security of their services to their customers. If you can do it, maybe you don't need to make it like an altcoin project because you just have to pay every win, serve your customers, and make your site more attractive than others and get your reputation.

If we have supported other casino's in the past and new platform that enter the space around the 2020's, then why we wouldn't support our own bitcointalk members? so the answer is very easy, yes.

Specially if that casino is coming from some reputable members, but regardless, even a newbie or those member that is still new like jr to full members I think the answer will be the same. They just need a proper channel to announce their online casino and for sure gamblers are going to check them out.

For sure, majority of people on this forum would be mainly be supporting that casino if its launched and owned by fellow community member of this forum specially if its known or popular.Its true that we do even
support into those new casinos been launching on this forum without knowing its owner, how about into those who had been known? The answer is indeed simply "Yes".
Just like on what others been saying that success would be still in question considering we dont even know if the community would really be interested on their offering.
Even if people would be knowing that its owned by fellow member of this forum but the offering wasnt that good then it would guarantee success.

If the Bitcointalk Members is Known to be capable of having one? then why not right ? and besides we have been trusting New account that promote their new site here so why not our fellow Bitcointalk members that proven their trustworthiness over the years?

so indeed I will support and will play with trust and willingness .

it will still take time before they will completely get our trust by showing  transparency and trustworthiness .

Support can be expected from the community regardless of whether you are famous or not in this forum. I might think you will get more support if you are a famous user, but your casino is no exception even if you are not famous.

As someone who is very familiar with the casino and its promotions then of course you have a good way to get more support. The promotion system will help you a lot but of course you need funds to get it noticed by other users. There is no conflict of interest here, your business is yours, you are responsible for making it successful or failing.

I mean, there are already some well known users around here who have showed transparency and trustworthiness through countless transactions they have made here on the forum. It would be matter to see how efficient they and their team is to manage a casino, which I assume it is not an easy task.

In the end, there have been casinos and services which appear over here to advertise themselves with little reputation and they prove themselves to be good, I assume that's how many of them started.

If i will accept a recommendation for using a casino operated by a bitcointalk user then such user must be a sr. member rank upwards or one that is well recognized by the members on good reputation, you can't just expect a newbie just coming onboard to gain the interest of members by ordinary sweet words with having an history to trace about his stay on the forum, that should even look more suspicious to trust, i think one of the easy ways to earn trutmst from people is to start by creating on on others.

Since OP mentioned members so I will conclude that it will be more or less 5 members I'm ok if there is a member or full member rank as long as the guy is active here in Bitcointalk we all know that merits are the key to rank up but not all members of good standing here get a lot of merits, as long as he is a capable member and majority of the members are senior and up members of this forum, and yes I will not accept newbies the lowest rank should be member rank.

^OP said it is a reputable member in the forum and it could be the best example is lightlord which is a donator at the same time.
Forum members supported his casino before and it was a long last signature campaign before that has been run here in the forum. For me, why not?
It is a reputable member and we know once we are here it is very easy to approach once we have a problem, everything is publicly seen by anyone no one will hide. It could be also, that casino will gain support from the community.

I will definitely support them with all my heart, I see no reason why member of the forum will be trying to grow and I won't support the person, just make sure you are doing the right thing, I see every member of the forum as my family even as we don't know each, but we are still one big happy family, have learnt alot from the forum members and have benefit from the forum members and the forum entirely, so anything that will grow anybody on the forum then am 100% in support of it, I will even go on my own to advertise the casino site to people in my locality, I know their funds are safe so I won't have to panic maybe they might get scammed.

Depends on whos that community member.! If its someone who's popular and known then it would be likely you would really be going to support it and test it out but of course you cant really control on what people would

really be their reactions whether they would really be interested on the site that they are into or wont really be enough on getting their attention and make that full switch up into this new casino.

It do always boils down on whats been offered because just like other been saying that if people or someone cant really be that satisfied on the offering then he would
really just simply go back on where he was before.

Why not really? Though it depends, if the casino meets my standard, like in design, ease of use - that is, how easy it is to deposit, withdraw and generally use the casino, games listed and the rest, I have my taste and if the casino managed by members of this forum meets that taste, then why won't I use it?

Like one of the user said earlier, I won't give any special treatment to the casino manage by this forum's members, because doing that will give them room for laziness, so if they really would want to win the hearts of the members of this forum, then they will have to push themselves into building something really unique and outstanding.

It all depends on how it's set up, what rules are in place, it's legality, how funds in escrow are held etc.  I am not so sure this is really a realistic idea at this point in time due to all of these things I've listed here.  I would prefer to gamble at a Casino where I know more about who runs it, as well as trust those who run it more so.. but again, not sure I see this being a very realistic option..at least as of right now.

Lightlord is one example of who is operating a casino and a member and donator here in Bitcointalk so I'm sure there are members of this forum that were or are casino operators they just prefer to use an alt account to protect their main account, so it's not really something, but if they are open about their account on launching their own casino, I have no problem as long as they can keep up and doing the right thing and active in the discussion about their casino, they can easily gain trust because of the camaraderie on members of Bitcointalk.

Operated by a forum-member or not, the chance of supporting it especially from any gambler here is much more higher than anyone could imagine. But of course, it needs to reach people expectations here no ifs, no buts.

Well, every casino representative/admin made an account here so it counts, right? Or are you specifically referring to these DT members?

It should really reach out peoples expectation and even offering something that which havent been seen before on the gambling industry.Its true that it doesnt matter if its owned by community member or not.
It would really be still depending on certain factors if we do speak about success and there's no guarantee that even he's that reputable which people will really be playing on the site or would
remain.Supporting isnt that bad but if you do see that it is really just a basic website or doesnt offer something new then it would be still useless.
We could really make up choice whether its owned or not.If we do see something interesting then we do simply stick.

I think we are all in the same page as how we choose a legit and reputable casino, we just don't care who created/handled it. We expected that it will be the same as the other casino and not the other way around no matter who created it. If you guys would look at the "Gambling" section, you will find lot of user there creating their own casino.

They may be just a low rank member in this community but they come here to find help and support to us who are also a gambler to any legit casino that existed already.

I don't see any problem.
I know several members who are remarkably important and trustworthy here at BitcoinTalk in a variety of areas, from campaign managers, escrows, casino reviewers, etc.
Each one has its area and if some of them come together to form a casino I would support them as I'm sure most would not put their reputation at risk for something that could get them into trouble in the future.

I will trust it once site was coming from a reliable members here. As long as the site is very well designed, it has provably fair, why not? The main thing that must become the main concern is not about how it was being owned from one of members here but the as long as the site was offering such new things and i personally will support it. There are so many aspects need to be considered first just like reputation, reliability from the site, etc. It doesn't matter even if you're not a member from BTT itself.

There are obvious exceptions to this rule of course. Reputable casinos that sprang from this very forum always have staff or representatives that still answers to questions up to this day whenever they have the time. They still engage with the community and gather feedbacks whenever possible. These same casino guys can also be found on their respective chatboxes on their platforms, so there will always be a way to contact them. And they will answer too, based on my experience.
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That is true, I mean even if the site was made by someone here, it still remains that said creator has to be someone with a bit of reputation backing his credibility. It isn't a guarantee that the casino would be reputable but it does increase the chances of it being one (since we can't exactly guarantee a casino to be reputable no matter what). It's a matter of judging the backer behind, not just a matter of them originating from this forum.

At the end of the day it still relies on how the casino functions anyway. Reputation of the owner is something like a market promotion bonus that just invites players to play, it's nothing permanent.

I don't see any reason to not support them. They've already handled tons of funds from signature campaigns in the past. If they have bad intention to us, they would done it already. It would be their loss if they scam us because his gambling website together with his forum account will definitely get flagged.


This is not our problem anymore. If they plan to have their own in the future, I'm sure they will negotiate or have an agreement about it if they currently promote a different gambling platform.

I would gladly support a fellow bitcointalk member/s if he/they will put up a casino. But of course, that member/s must have a good reputation first and has a great background about gambling and it's processes. Assuming that they have the right qualities to run a casino based on their credentials, I would be at ease to try their project if made possible. Since they are already here in the forum for quite some time now, surely they know almost every concerns that a player has to their casino site. Which means they can improve those areas and won't do the same mistakes of other sites.

Regarding them promoting casinos in the past, I don't think it could be a conflict. I think it shouldn't matter at all in a negative aspect. We are all a certain someone before we reach who we are today. Them putting up their own casino just means they are inspired and motivated to do better and so they decided to become better by establishing their own casino that before, they are just promoting.

I don't pay much attention in the forum, may I know who they are?

it's not a problem if bitcointalk forum has fair and doesn't ban the user when using another signature. in other words they will face from each other and determine the power who has the best gambling casino. but I'm sure some of them have one, but not shown which means not using their real name as reputable member here.

I would also believe it, especially if a reputable member owns the casino site. That means he will provide more good service to his members and will not get his members into trouble. Once a problem arises and can't solve, it will cause more problems later because it will be related to their reputation. And I agree that in creating a site, we should be more concerned with the issue of service to all members. Thus, our site will have more opportunities to grow in the future.

In my opinion, a member of this forum who cares about his reputation will also care about the reputation of the casino, and probably even more so since the reputation of the casino will obviously affect its own reputation.

Speaking of support, in my opinion this depends on how good the community incentive program is since this is quite a competitive segment of this forum. I'm sure if the owner of the new casino launches a competitive signature campaign, forum members will support that program. 

I know that trust is subjective, but nevertheless if the member has a reputation to protect then I guess it's enough for us to try that casino because of his reputation.

Of course it still goes down as to how the site is being put, the UI and their ToS and provably fair will be some of the biggest question that they will have to answer from the members here. Also it's needs to be competitive so they might give us some free spins and giveways if we register to them as a bitcointalk member.

I don't really care if the crypto casino is created by a user in this forum or not, because the reason why I interested to gamble is the site, not the person who create it. If a reputable user created a poor casino, there's no reason for me to gamble. If there's a brand new user create a good casino and have a lot promotion, obviously I will interested to gamble and try the site.

We've seen few reputable users create casino and the reality doesn't like everyone have expected before.

it doesn't matter if they are member of bitcointalk or not but what I am seeking is that how legitimate they will operate and how consistent they are going to serve their players.

yeah they may gather in advance because if this member is trusted then luring players would be easy but the thing is in long term as we knew gambling to be for long and not for short term

this is a business that needs not only potential but also dedication and support from the community .

Being reliable member is not guarantee that he can be trusted also with large sum of money. If we talk about money we didn't care about how huge the trust score he gotten. We must look how his business perform and how faster he solve the issues which may come to then since from that we can really figure out that the business he built is truly good one.

Currently there are lots of gambling places circulating and easy to make, but they all can't develop well when there are no investors, of course investors will not put their money easily, they prefer to put their money in proven gambling places legit and safe, rather than putting the money in a new gambling place that is not necessarily safe

That "reputable" part is depending on how I see them, not how the public sees them. I mean if they are people that I know of, and people I respect, then I would jump on it right away, I would gamble there all day every day. So much so that, even if there is a better casino out there, I would still play here. Because it is from the people I know and trust and that’s very important.

There could be many other places, more marketing, more rewards back, more promotions, anything that any other place could ever try to do and I would still be here. But like I said, they could be insanely well known on bitcointalk, but if I do not know them, then it won't work, I personally need to chat with them before in order to get to know them.

I think I know the gambling review project you are talking about. It was recently released here but they aren't only limited as a gambling review site. They also offer their own tokens. Members behind it were seem to be trusted so members here aren't hesitating to support them and for sure they know what gambling sites they are going to put and review on their review site.

It would have been better if they also came up with their own casinos and we are going to support it as well. I don't feel that there are any conflicts from the casino that they review or promoted in the past. It's only a part of their business and nothing is personal there.

For you maybe but for us it does matter since it's easy for us to gain a confidence once we are familiar of the casino owner. If we knew that the owner is a bitcointalk member which reputation is bad then we can easily ignore the casino but if it's the opposite then it's an auto like for us but as usual, we will still start with a smaller amount and will still prioritize the previous casinos that we already played and tested with.

For those separate casino owners but have done a partnership with the bitcointalk members, the casino can also receive an instant exposure but the impression will depend on the reputation of the bitcointalk member of course.

I see no harm in that, we all have our individual life outside the forum before we met here therefore if someone is of interest in the gambling business and has the resources to follow up then they should go for it. Although them been an established member of the community shoudn't decieve them into thinking they won't be criticize when the affair of the casino isn't been ran properly. They have to be willing to accept criticism from the community and work on making their platforms up to standard in giving their patronizers the best experience.

Meanwhile I think this is already existing (that's a casino own by a forum member) and also I believe some users here are part of the team of existing casinos so it's no big deal or news. Provided the casinos are fair to the costumers they're always welcome to advertise on the forum.

It can indeed help the casino gain popularity on bitcointalk because the owner is one of the bitcointalk members with a good reputation. And of course, it will increase the trust of the members who register at the casino because they will get good service from the casino team.

And if they get any issues related to their account, I think their case can get more attention because the team and owner are from bitcointalk. But it is not an easy job to manage a casino site and I think there will be some complicated cases to solve.

I don't even care so much about what background from owner as long as what i need will be fulfilling by the new site. I thought that other members have the same opinion. As long as the site is reliable and i will go thereeeeeee.
It this is a still a speculation and I will not even think this is gonna be a real thing. i will not accept if it the owner was anti criticism lol.