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Title: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Abiky on October 10, 2022, 12:56:01 AM
Ever since the Biden administration proposed a regulatory framework for crypto/Blockchain tech, government agencies have been targeting platforms and users more aggressively. First it was the sanctioning of the Tornado.Cash mixer, and now the SEC wants to classify all PoS coins as securities. They seem to be more against Ethereum than Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency for that matter. There was a case between the SEC and Ripple, but thankfully, it didn't turn out to be a huge win for the government agency. Compared to the previous administration, I think the current administration is taking crypto too seriously.

Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: GreatArkansas on October 11, 2022, 02:37:22 AM
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Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
They are indeed starting toe become too hard on cryptocurrency. The United States of America is not an ordinary country, they have reasons why they are doing these sanctions/regulations on cryptocurrencies.
The more people are hopping on cryptocurrency, the more volume pouring into the cryptocurrency market, and the more they will become strict or hard. If you take a look on early days, it seems most government ignore cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: NewRanger on October 11, 2022, 05:17:29 AM
indeed , US actually want to againts  cryptocurrency  due their own interest. as we know US still want dollar  to be superior money in the world , by cryptocurrency appearance ofcourse it will directly decrease dollar power.  today we see alot international transaction using bitcoin or other cryptocurrency , for super power country its really annoying  they could not controll this. legalization in US will take long time .


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: yazher on October 11, 2022, 06:00:10 AM
This is fine compared to other countries like China where they rush to totally banned cryptocurrencies without giving any warnings and miners are forced to migrate with their mining components to other countries. But considering the situation nowadays with the US regarding crypto, miners and holders should have their own plan B in case more regulations are coming in the future. They should know that they can no longer be safe against huge amounts of taxes once these regulations are passed.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on October 11, 2022, 06:23:43 AM
China is even worst compared with binance. Look at how so many US billionaires were supporting crypto unlike china which has been seeing crypto as a threat. There's no reason to call US being too hard on crypto. Remember even some regulators in US have been issuing approval for some crypto products. I think that you must see reality if US was also bitcoin house right now unlike another countries which were always banning crypto without any reason


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: passwordnow on October 11, 2022, 11:15:27 AM
Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit?
Yes. They can't handle it anymore and there's a need for them to put their hands on it and that's why they're acting as if they're the most needed regulatory body even though without them, the market and its community will thrive together.

Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto?
I am not sure but it could be that the whole economy have been in difficult times so, they've put their eyes on crypto and have to regulate it and can't just let everyone enjoy those tax-free profits from crypto.

If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
The unsure ones, are China, India, etc.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 11, 2022, 02:15:13 PM
I agree that the popularity of crypto has increased so much that people are now aware of crypto, making the government feel the need to control the crypto movement and take advantage of it. And I think the US is too hard on crypto because they are too strict on regulations and trying to control crypto. But maybe my guess is wrong because I don't know what the US government really wants.

But even if the regulations in the US are stricter than in other countries, it won't hinder the movement of crypto because crypto doesn't belong to the US. It belongs to everyone who wants it. So there will be countries that will allow and accept crypto and allow their citizens to use crypto.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on October 11, 2022, 02:29:19 PM
Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
I believe they are restricting a lot of things on crypto when in fact US is the worst when it comes to crypto handling. I believe crypto is way better before than now. A lots of news or even frameworks created to govern crypto unlike before they are just ignoring it and even dont care about it. Thats where you can see how they are so eager to have some cut of the growing marketcap of every projects.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: avikz on October 11, 2022, 06:05:30 PM
Ever since the Biden administration proposed a regulatory framework for crypto/Blockchain tech, government agencies have been targeting platforms and users more aggressively. First it was the sanctioning of the Tornado.Cash mixer, and now the SEC wants to classify all PoS coins as securities. They seem to be more against Ethereum than Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency for that matter. There was a case between the SEC and Ripple, but thankfully, it didn't turn out to be a huge win for the government agency. Compared to the previous administration, I think the current administration is taking crypto too seriously.

Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)

US is too hard on everything, globally! Whenever they see an oil-rich country, they send military there to save that country from their own administration like what happened in Iraq Or Syria. The same is happening with crypto.

As charity begins at home, they are first targetting their home users and then they will launch a global attack on crypto companies doing business with US citizens and then the countries with most mining operations.

Please note - the above post is imaginary and any resemblance with the reality is a pure coincidence.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: BRINIRHA on October 11, 2022, 07:59:36 PM
they really seem to be too hard on crypto. the measures and policies they issue always corner cryptocurrencies. for some reason, but they seem to have their own fear of cryptocurrencies. or maybe because they are a little late in keeping up with crypto developments. so they are like parents who cannot accept technological developments. but sooner or later I believe they will accept crypto. because their people are using crypto more and more regardless of what policies they take.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 11, 2022, 08:44:49 PM
Ever since the Biden administration proposed a regulatory framework for crypto/Blockchain tech, government agencies have been targeting platforms and users more aggressively. First it was the sanctioning of the Tornado.Cash mixer, and now the SEC wants to classify all PoS coins as securities. They seem to be more against Ethereum than Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency for that matter. There was a case between the SEC and Ripple, but thankfully, it didn't turn out to be a huge win for the government agency. Compared to the previous administration, I think the current administration is taking crypto too seriously.

Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)

US has never banned crypto so I don't think they are the harshest by any means. They aren't even really against it they just want theor money.  Like a good mob as long as you pay you can play.  The reason they fear crypto because they don't know yet how to tax it.  When they iron that out it will be smooth sailing.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Abiky on October 12, 2022, 11:48:02 PM
US has never banned crypto so I don't think they are the harshest by any means. They aren't even really against it they just want theor money.  Like a good mob as long as you pay you can play.  The reason they fear crypto because they don't know yet how to tax it.  When they iron that out it will be smooth sailing.

If the US government is able to tax crypto successfully, then everything will be "peaches and cream". Until then, expect a heavy hand against the revolution from the world's biggest superpower. You can't expect the government to ignore something that's been rising in popularity at a very fast pace. At least, the US hasn't banned crypto from mainstream use. Other countries like China and Russia don't want to welcome crypto with open arms because that would mean losing power over their own people.

It's only been 13 years since Bitcoin's inception, but there's still a long road ahead before the crypto/Blockchain industry becomes fully adopted by everyone worldwide. Regulations are just the tip of the iceberg. After crypto is "properly" regulated, all that's left is for institutional investors and VCs to join the game for things to start kicking. As long as the government doesn't go too far, there should be nothing to worry about. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Tessyb on October 13, 2022, 01:42:46 AM
We need to understand that cryptocurrency is gaining more popularity and strength as the days go and it would take only a blind government to be unaware about this level of increase and popularity that cryptocurrency has gained over the years. In my opinion, the US government is trying to get their own share from the massive wealth of the cryptocurrency industry by bringing participants into the tax net and ensuring that regulations are attained to checkmate the excesses of users and developers.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Bitstar_coin on October 13, 2022, 12:18:48 PM
I think the government are only taking the necessary measures to ensure things are done right. It is already a known fact that government regulations will come if there will be adoption. US government imo is not doing anything different from what other countries government will do. Government will not embrace crypto without introducing regulations.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Tony116 on October 13, 2022, 01:23:30 PM
We always want cryptocurrencies to become more popular or even mass-adopted, regulations are inevitable. The government is still the one who runs and manages the whole world so don't expect something to set us free without any government control. Bitcoin can only help a part of us, not all of us.

The US is the number 1 country in the world and they are like a leader, once they make the regulations then all the rest of the countries won't want to go against them. I believe the regulations will not stop until they feel satisfied.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 13, 2022, 03:44:14 PM
I think you already know, there is a 30% tax of crypto transactions in India, I think that is pretty big and it has culled the Indian crypto communities enthusiasm in crypto trading and led to OTC deals being done more.

Comparing to that I think the US has better options for traders in their country. There are so many crypto companies based on US and Europe while few from India.

Even BTC ATMs exist in max number in US compared to any other country as shown in https://www.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-atm/

So I think every country is being hard on crypto from their own side. But we are a resilient community and have to deal with hardships just like any revolutionary.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: yhiaali3 on October 13, 2022, 04:08:04 PM
The United States is the worst on cryptocurrencies and maybe China will come after them, the United States by nature loves control and has a desire to control the whole world and cryptocurrencies are out of control due to their decentralized nature, so I expect the United States to continue its hostility towards cryptocurrencies and will issue more Strict regulations in an attempt to completely control cryptocurrencies. But I am sure it will fail in the end.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: mich on October 16, 2022, 06:20:28 AM
My friend who lives in the US tells me that he is nervous about buying and selling his crypto. With the SEC and US president Joe Biden’s administration wanting people to pay taxes on their cryptocurrency things are very up in the air for taxes.
Especially if Biden’s administration is working with the SEC to create a crypto tax law, it would not be good for any US customers. My friend told me that with his losses and his gains he may only be able even out his investment.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Abiky on October 17, 2022, 01:41:45 AM
We always want cryptocurrencies to become more popular or even mass-adopted, regulations are inevitable. The government is still the one who runs and manages the whole world so don't expect something to set us free without any government control. Bitcoin can only help a part of us, not all of us.

The US is the number 1 country in the world and they are like a leader, once they make the regulations then all the rest of the countries won't want to go against them. I believe the regulations will not stop until they feel satisfied.

There's nothing we can do other wait and see what happens regarding governments' stance towards crypto. As you've said before, regulations are inevitable. You can't expect something popular to slip under the radar of the government. The US knows how successful crypto has been since day one, so it's trying to "legitimize" it by regulating it as much as possible. This is good in the sense that it reduces the level of criminal activities in the industry, but it's bad because people will be forced to submit their ID to be able to participate in it.

Of course, there are decentralized exchanges and other means which you can access crypto without KYC. But it's something not everyone is willing to do due to its high level of difficulty. Giving out your personally-identifiable information to centralized exchanges is a much easier way to get access to the world of crypto/Blockchain tech with Fiat (in this case, the US Dollar). The US is just beginning to regulate crypto seriously, so let's give it some time to determine whenever it's being too hard on this emerging industry or all the other way around. Other countries like China and Russia are faring worse that the US, so I guess current regulations aren't so bad after all. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Bananington on October 17, 2022, 02:24:12 PM
Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto?
There is a need for the government to put an eye on the crypto sector as the number of scam cases are increasing and the number of people setting up and promoting scam tokens is also on the rise. I don't think the United States is being too hard on crypto, they are just trying to protect citizens from dubious projects and I see nothing wrong there. If they make the crypto space difficult for scammers to flaunt dubious projects, it will be of tremendous benefit to us.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Flexystar on October 17, 2022, 02:34:10 PM
Considering the situation in the country they are definitely targeting all the crypto space and want to take out the cash from it back to the American ecosystem. However, there is one problem with this and major factor is SEC. It’s still unclear why SEC wants to be part of crypto through the reasons of securities? This means governments also do not want to ban the crypto completely and they also want to regulate it on one side. So what’s the point being aggressive against the users if you still want it to regulate through different government bodies?
Don’t you guys find it doggy from the government itself?


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on October 17, 2022, 11:36:41 PM
Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
Well, as someone who wants cryptos to continue its rise I would say anything that tries to inhibit its continuous rise will be frowned on. However, from an objective assessment I don't think the US is too hard or harsh on cryptos. We should see China (what a big shame) as the most draconic of them all towards crypto. It's a shame because China was very supportive to crypto in the beginning and had more miners than other countries. China's hostility to crypto now is a big lesson on how things change.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Jaered on October 18, 2022, 08:56:08 PM
To be honest, I love these developments on crypto. All these regulations help the transparency and accountability of many projects that wouldn't have been there if SEC hadnt stepped up. And it is showing mainstream investors that we aint all criminals in the crypro realm


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Abiky on October 20, 2022, 01:17:39 AM
That's also the reason why some countries are restricting cryptocurrency. The number of scam cases related to crypto is continuously rising so they really have to implement regulations to control it. It's just hard on crypto users' part because they're deeply affected by what scammers are doing. However, the implementation of a law controlling the number of scam cases will still benefit us in the long run. They want to prioritize the security and safety of investors' funds.

While I admit the government is trying to limit criminal activity in the industry, sometimes it goes too far by adopting strict regulations which makes an average person's life harder. There needs to be some sort of flexibility for crypto/Blockchain tech to grow without limitations. Countries like China and Russia (especially China) have completely banned crypto from widespread use, so maybe the US is not too hard after all. There's a long road ahead before governments devise proper regulations against the ever-improving crypto/Blockchain space. After all, it's only been 13 years since the first cryptocurrency (Bitcoin) was launched to the public.

There are a lot of people who still don't know what crypto is, so I'd say this is just the mere beginning. Who knows if the US softens its stance towards crypto someday? Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: BobK71 on October 20, 2022, 06:47:50 AM
No country has a clear stance on cryptocurrency. They give different kinds of blessings one at a time. The situation in the United States is also obscure. But they are thinking about it. I think many people want to use crypto as a global diplomatic issue. For example, a few days ago when Russia was restricted from various issues, crypto was going through a big challenge. And in world politics, when someone leave from crypto, someone else keeps it as seen between China and America.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Kelvinid on October 20, 2022, 09:55:30 AM
No country has a clear stance on cryptocurrency. They give different kinds of blessings one at a time. The situation in the United States is also obscure. But they are thinking about it. I think many people want to use crypto as a global diplomatic issue. For example, a few days ago when Russia was restricted from various issues, crypto was going through a big challenge. And in world politics, when someone leave from crypto, someone else keeps it as seen between China and America.
People give more trust to crypto when they see support from the government which could eventually increase adoptions but what we see is a little bit different, many countries are opposing this due to some reasons. Like the US, restrictions have to expect from them due to battling against crimes, it was their views towards crypto but some countries, look at crypto as an opportunity for their people and improve their economic system. Might their stance towards crypto is not acceptable my many but we can't urge them to change it knowing their powers when it comes to politics.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: mirakal on October 20, 2022, 10:28:23 AM
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Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
They are indeed starting toe become too hard on cryptocurrency. The United States of America is not an ordinary country, they have reasons why they are doing these sanctions/regulations on cryptocurrencies.
The more people are hopping on cryptocurrency, the more volume pouring into the cryptocurrency market, and the more they will become strict or hard. If you take a look on early days, it seems most government ignore cryptocurrencies.

Because the United States of America feared that bitcoin will be used globally and their currency, the USD, which is the most dominant currency of all time won't be the same anymore when Bitcoin will be much more established. They can put pressure and sanctions they want but they can't stop Bitcoin, dollar is getting weaker as the year goes by.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: hyudien on October 20, 2022, 11:49:28 AM
Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
You could say it's strict because the use of crypto in the US is increasing enough and forcing the government to tighten crypto regulations to be organized. No wonder the US continues to provide sufficient space even with increasingly stringent regulations. Instead of the state as others have said, China banned it by a single decree. The US has a democratic system that is also seen in crypto regulation. Provide warnings, sanctions, and final decisions. But in China, you won't see gradual regulation like in the US.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: tabas on October 21, 2022, 07:58:31 PM
I think the US country is too heavy to accept crypto as a financial or commodity adoption in its country because they are the center of the world's currency of course they will go against the original nature of crypto which is decentralized. The difficulty of controlling crypto makes it difficult for countries with strict regulations to adopt crypto.
That's a fact and that's why US is trying to play safe here and don't want to wholly advertise the usage of crypto whether as an alternative payment or an asset or security.
Regardless of that, those countries that have been soft on crypto, they're doing good and that's what they must look at because it won't change a lot and directly to them but has to look at the positive side that it'll be one of the factors that could add up and help their economic growth.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: serjent05 on October 21, 2022, 09:13:18 PM
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Do you think crypto's ever-rising popularity will lead towards more regulation by the US? Or will things settle up a bit? Do you believe the US is being too hard on crypto? If not, which other country (or countries) is worst? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
They are indeed starting toe become too hard on cryptocurrency. The United States of America is not an ordinary country, they have reasons why they are doing these sanctions/regulations on cryptocurrencies.
The more people are hopping on cryptocurrency, the more volume pouring into the cryptocurrency market, and the more they will become strict or hard. If you take a look on early days, it seems most government ignore cryptocurrencies.

That is the side effect of adoption and regulation.  If a government decided to adopt any cryptocurrency, it will try to control and regulate everything that has something to do with that cryptocurrency.  We all know the government always wanted to have a full grasp of everything to fully utilize it for the government "income".  So basically, if the US of A decided to adopt the cryptocurrency, it will impose strict regulations on it.  Since cryptocurrency users is not used to the sudden changes brought by government regulations, cryptocurrency users often feel the sudden changes of rules and feel that the government is choking them.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: BIT-BENDER on October 21, 2022, 10:01:57 PM
I also heard the news of the proposal to ban Crypto-currency mining in Europe all this regulations are all planned attacks on Crypto-currency if you asked be. And ever since I joined crypto-currency I noticed that the government has been one of Crypto-currency biggest problem.

The US isn't really that hard compared to country such as mine that has already banned Crypto-currency related bank transfers but from experience in my country after the ban I have come to the conclusion that it's really not a policy that can stop crypto-currency popularity because those active that was banned still goes on.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: trendcoin on October 21, 2022, 11:32:50 PM
Under normal circumstances, the United States of America should be one of the most liberal countries in this regard. In fact, the world has not been on a bipolar political axis for long, yet the USA is still the country that promises the most freedom. That's why I always expect regulations to be softer in the USA. Also, since the regulations made there will set an example for other countries, I hope that there will be softer regulations because countries such as the USA, Russia and China are in the position of countries that can be role models for the countries they influence. However, no matter what, authority and freedom cannot be found 100% in the same place. Therefore, regulations will always be restrictive for us. In other words, we can consider the regulations made in the most liberal countries of the world as harsh.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Abiky on October 24, 2022, 01:00:52 AM
Because the United States of America feared that bitcoin will be used globally and their currency, the USD, which is the most dominant currency of all time won't be the same anymore when Bitcoin will be much more established. They can put pressure and sanctions they want but they can't stop Bitcoin, dollar is getting weaker as the year goes by.

I wouldn't say the "Dollar is getting weaker" since the US is still the most powerful economic force in the world. The USD's position as the global reserve currency has been untouched even with the negative effects of inflation. We now have a stronger USD compared to the EUR and other leading national currencies. What the government is doing is trying to prevent Bitcoin from replacing the Dollar by regulating it as much as possible. If it doesn't act hard on Bitcoin, then more people will abandon the USD in favor of BTC. At least, the US hasn't banned crypto yet (unlike China). As long as the US is able to tax crypto successfully, we can be sure it won't be going anywhere soon. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: DeathAngel on October 28, 2022, 01:41:43 PM
I don’t think the US is being too hard on crypto. There are many altcoin projects & tokens that are scams, run by unscrupulous actors. I do however, think that the US is being too hard on bitcoin specifically. There should be a spot bitcoin ETF by now. It’s a real joke that the SEC refuse to grant us one, citing protecting investors as a reason to keep denying one.


Title: Re: Is the US being too hard on crypto?
Post by: Abiky on October 30, 2022, 01:12:33 AM
I don’t think the US is being too hard on crypto. There are many altcoin projects & tokens that are scams, run by unscrupulous actors. I do however, think that the US is being too hard on bitcoin specifically. There should be a spot bitcoin ETF by now. It’s a real joke that the SEC refuse to grant us one, citing protecting investors as a reason to keep denying one.

I understand the US is trying to legitimize the space by reducing criminal activity, but there are some measures that affect ordinary people as well. There needs to be a balance in order to help the crypto industry grow without obstacles. At least, the US is not as bad as China or Russia in its treatment towards crypto/Blockchain tech. We can tell US lawmakers are paying close attention to crypto's latest developments by embracing the revolution at a slow and steady pace. There are already talks about launching a US Digital Dollar (CBDC), so it's likely crypto will co-exist with the new currency for years to come. As long as crypto stays decentralized, there should be nothing to worry about. Just my thoughts ;D