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I have noticed that every cycle there are giant ALT coins. In the following cycle, the New top 10 is coming. As per the current condition, please be vigilant to invest in BTC.

Most Alts vanish in a bear market, the main reason is no fundamentals.

There are two methods you can invest, 1) RSI Based 2) DCA(dollar cost average)

I self going to invest in Alts after 2024.

There will be more and more web3 projects , AI projects will come. So be alert on some potential brand new projects.

That a good point to not invest heavy in alts but never invest in opportunity is not the case as BTC is your main asset if you want to invest in the ALTS then you need tobe sure about the loss and one more thing here is as you said after 2024 that's not the case this is the  end time here now the accumulation is going to end so from this point you can invest that's not a financial advice still you can invest in ALTS for short time times as this the time now.

I dont get how to declare 2024 or post 2024 to be the safe year to invest in altcoins. Altcoins have always been the target of pump and dump'ers and shills and hence they are glared on by bigger market veterans. Whatever media buzzword that they add to their project, the core design never really changes and the common "genres" explored by such projects will never be able to compete with their mainstream counterparts.

Hence even if newer tech comes into view, altcoin project leaders only use them to promote their project and not actually develop something on it.

Still it would be worth a watch if they actually manage to go bullish after 2024 or early.

AI projects are the worst of them all, they never survived since many years ago because no one needs any AI use cases, its a dream that never come to past, instead focus of MetaVerse and Play to earn games, also I think its wrong to stay till 2024 before buying alts, you are simply betting on the fact that BTC may go lower, you will be shocked how fast BTC can recover.

but i believe with old altcoins and whatever bigger ones come in the future, old altcoins will still follow the existing technology and then adjust it, so it all depends on how developers follow the technology in their respective eras, i keep investing in old altcoins and buy them cheap, because now is the right time to buy it when the market is bearish not when the market is bullish

What do you mean by RSI? Relative Strength Index?

A good time to invest. Bitcoin halving would be around March 2044. Investing around that time would be better. But I am thinking next massive price drop would be the best time to invest in altcoins, but which the coins would increase and later decrease back.

if you intend to buy altcoins after 2024 then you will regret it, because in 2022 all altcoins are already at very cheap prices,
indeed bitcoin is still an indication for dump again but if you don't buy altcoins gradually of course it's a bad thing you should avoid,
some altcoins such as Algorand and Chiliz are also indicated to be very bullish.

A circle has no beginning or end in crypto. If you want your money never to finish in altcoins, diversify your investments to several altcoins whether it is among the top 10 or not. Don't wait till 2024, invest now and wait patiently. If profits come, withdraw your profits and reinvest back. With that kind of method, you won't regret ever investing in altcoin this year

Investment in cryptocurrency and especially long term investment should take place with bitcoin instead of alternative coins, because so many of alternative coins does not have a potentiality, and that's the reason while so many of them varnish during long stays of bearish market. Bitcoin have very large potential and that's while people do like to invest in bitcoins instead of altcoins, because it's few altcoins that can not die of during long stays of bearish market, and such are Ethereum.

Cost averaging method is a good strategy during bear market since we don’t know if the market will continue to down or now, having your own analysis can help as well. Investing during bear market should be more precise and avoid any coins/tokens that you think can’t survive the bear market, not all altcoins are worth to buy choose the best only or to be more safe, go for the top 20 coins in the market and just play with them until the market recovers.

You cant precisely determined if the current top altcoins would really be outranked in a short time.This is the survival of the fittest and to those coins or projects who would really be mainly supported by the community.

We know that this market is totally unpredictable, there's no way that we can tell which one would be lasting and which new coin will really be placing itself on the top.Beating up those established coins on high ranks

is never been easy.Unless if a new project will really be getting soo much hyped and people do see its relevance of its utility then there might be chance but the odds or chances to see
this one is not that high.

It was your decision. Perhaps, nobody urges you to do that but it was your own. But for me, I'll take the chance now to invest while the prices are in huge deduction but of course, it was not all for altcoins. Even if you think about investing after 2024 is safe and profitable, this won't give you the assurance as well nor you will exactly get potential altcoins. It is a matter of choosing altcoins in any market condition as thinking about earning profit relies not only on the coins we choose but also on us who manage them.

Why wait for that time before you invest where you can already buy good coins at a cheaper price?
I understand the disappointment on some altcoins but if we are talking about top coins here I’m sure you can see the golden opportunity to buy it cheaper. Yes, there will a new good project in the future but still no guarantee for that so better to deal with the good coins currently listed in good exchanges, you can still make good profit with them.

I guess it all depends on the alt that you are investing.

1. If they are solid like in the top 10 then definitely something big might happen in the next bull run
2. But if you invest on shitcoin and meme coin and hype base project, then definitely, sooner or later they will die in this bear market and a new coin will appear to replace them.

And I do agree that as much as we love some alts like ETH, BNB, ADA, Bitcoin is still the king and I would say the risk is not that big as compare to altcoins.

2024 you're gonna be too late since the bullish might have occurred around that year, I think that's unwise decision, there might be new good quality projects surfacing at that year but then again it was mainly caused from the bullish trend that could hardly gives you high returns at the end of the day. the thing with investing is that, you seek good entry in growing your initial capital and then make good returns out of it, the good quality of the project follows its potential in growing its values, that's what I think.

I don't think you can force people not to invest in Altcoins, in fact there are many people who earn money from Altcoins. Your research is not necessarily the same as other people's and it can't be forced to be the same that's why there are always the words DYOR

bear market is not good for altcoins, even Bitcoin is still unstable. Altcoins experienced a very sharp decline because bitcoin was also down and the influence of the world economy was not good. Investing for now I recommend Bitcoin and Ethereum because they have a good future, but need to do a DCA strategy to buy gradually. Use the current reserve of money to increase the assets we have. Maybe after the halving occurs the market will improve again and reach the highest ATH again.

All cryptocurrencies Increase and later decrease during the whole market circle however I guess we all agree that the best bet for Crypto investment is Bitcoin whether you are doing DCA or able to buy a the bottom of the market for the long term. That said, we cannot also dispute that there are strong Alts in the market that have proven their project in the past years but we investors are also eager to look at buying in New Alts because they believe that the top 20 Alts CMC might now be repeated in the next Bull market plus those looking to cash in from this new projects, but timing in investing in any of those Alts is very important.

Investing during a bear market is dangerous with respect to any coin, if there has not yet been a market reversal. It is better to buy altcoins already when we saw the confirmation of growth. In this case, we will have a slightly higher purchase price, but it will be safer than if you try to buy every time the price reaches another low.

We must be vigilant if investment with a large value, what has happened to Luna, which drops from $ 85 to $ 0.00001 in a week makes many investors cry and even become stressed, always monitor assets at least once a day so that we can avoid losses or loss of money.

And what is the advantage of this expectation? After 2024, all altcoins will already grow decently compared to the current situation. If you buy the coins of strong projects, it will be before the beginning of the bull season. You should buy on corrections and flat, not on growth, which in 2024, most likely, will already start gaining momentum. It's like if you said in 2020 that you would start buying solana, matic, dot, polygon after 2020, even though you should have bought them before then.

that's a non sense thing. You can even call that if XRP and ethereum have gone from the top 10 CMC. The position will be replaced by a new coin as long as the project doesn't have sustain development progres. It's better if you are taking tron's case. This coin was increasing a lot but since people realized that if tron was a garbage blockchain and they were massively leaving from tron. Your point didn't even make any sense mate. Try to understand the real value from the project that can make it sustain.

if you calculate the 4 year cycle 2024 is the start of a bull run if you buy after 2024 it means you go through a period where everyone is reaping the rewards
for the price of alt now it's quite cheap, don't alt BTC is already very cheap from 2021 yesterday
but that's your decision, we can't force you to invest quickly, let's look for profits together in their respective ways

In my opinion as investors we must have a strong stand and character, do not be too easy to believe in many negative issues or excessive issues, and when investing then make sure that opportunities for loss are also large so we must be wise, if we are afraid then it is better to leave cryptocurrencies .

why after 2024? Isn't that the beginning of a bull run if you look at the cycle?
but I applaud you for making a final opinion on investing after 2024 . I hope you will update your portfolio at the end of December 2023 before 2024 comes,
Honestly, for several months the alt value is not good, the same as BTC which is still unclear god luck for you

When a bull market occurs many altcoins also follow an uptrend.  if you look at the current price, old popular altcoins are cheap in my opinion, still very worth holding, very suitable for starting long-term investments, just determine the right point to enter and most importantly do not invest in new altcoins, the risk is very high because there are many  research that needs to be done

Its always better to invest in alt coin during the bear market. The bull market is the worst time to invest in any coin especially altcoin, so one has to decide which time is best suitable for investing especially as the market is volatile and we never can tell the extent of the dip. The main objective of every investor is profit maximization and that would be achieved with reduced or nil losses.

I would say that for stocks buying during the bear is a the better option, but altcoins?

If you are being serious about your money you would stay away from altcoins. The point being that most altcoins that go down during a bear run will always be going down and not going up. So if you want to maximize the profit and do that in crypto, you should go with bitcoin or maybe the top 5 altcoins and nothing else.

I will not say that all altcoins are bad, but most of them are and this has been well confirmed by users who have watched the market for years. To keep your money safe, bitcoin is the safer bet.

Many trends emerged this year. Nfts, AI projects etc and even in the bear market these projects will become very common but very dangerous until the bullish cycle comes. In the next loop, I think most of the top100 will be swapped. It's actually a good time to research and follow up on good projects. You can keep BTC as your main asset and add small liquidity to projects that make sense.

before making a decision to invest, it is certain that we have done further research. because right now is a bad condition for investing. but that doesn't mean we don't invest in alt at this time. and I think now is the right time to invest in altcoins that have good fundamentals. because it can provide greater profits when the bull market comes.

Why wait until 2024 when we can invest in altcoin in a cheaper price today.   Though we might wait longer but investing in the cheapest price possible is a good thing for investors.  Promising projects that is launched during a bear market may have surged by 2024 and we might be late to get in by that time.  If we have the fund and the opportunity of profit opens its windows, we must not delay our action of investing because we might miss this opportunity if we wait longer.


It is already given that we must do thorough research if we wanted to invest in a certain project.  The thing is after all the research is done, we should not delay our actions if our research indicates that the newly created project is promising.


I agree, bear market offers promising projects at a very huge discount.  We must not wait for these promising project to surge before investing in it.

Well, it was not new to us OP that during the bear season many shitcoins have died and even some promising coins turn to scams. This is the risk when investing in altcoins and a reason why I barely not hold them during this bearish season as I mostly converted them to Bitcoin for the sake of being safe. If we invested blindly and do not often check our portfolio, sometimes we got surprised that some of our coins have no value. But I see the smart thing to do during the drop is to invest ONLY those coins that we know their capabilities already, not these new chips.

Your advice is coming a bit late now. It should have been made from the start of this year because that was when the market started failing us. Am not taking about bitcoin but alts. Altcoins have done poorly this year and has disappointed alot of people. Anybody can say do not buy when the market is down and say buy when it is going up. But that is not how real investors look at it. They want to buy when the tokens are going down. But this year most investors are even scared of buying alts. They do not know when the fall will find a bottom. DCA that you mentioned has also wrecked alot of investors this year who bought thinking it was the bottom and it continued down and they kept buying until their capital is stuck and depleted.

You are not lying but do understand that if you were to profit from the altcoins market, it's best you get them when they're cheap. Buying in 2024 as you suggested might get you buying when they have already regain some price lost due to the bear market. You just have to be smart in your selection and avoid coins that were just hyped or shit coins in general. An example is avoid all the INU coins that got launched after the success of Shiba INU, all those coins would die because they're only surviving on hype and no real products.
Next is to get the coins that have utility and hold coins like Ethereum and Binance coin, you can buy others when you feel the bear has ended but get some in the bear as this coins returning to their previous all time high or getting close could give some nice profit before the bull market begin.

Except for a very reduced number of altcoins which have strong fundamentals and that it makes sense to buy even now, like it is the case of ethereum, the rest of the altcoins in the market should never be bought during a bear market precisely because of the reason you mentioned.

However even if it is late I think it still makes sense that people are reminded of something like this, so they can protect their remaining capital or they can avoid making the costly mistake of investing in shitcoins now when no one is interested in speculating with them at the moment.

He has his reasons, apart from Ethereum and BNB, I can tell you all altcoins although they have potential and are highly discounted but all are risky and will probably never recover come back. Looking at the altcoins of the previous bear cycles, many altcoins have not been able to recover and grow again and other new altcoins will come and replace them, the cycles of altcoins are really short, they are not like bitcoin. I believe the next bull season will have some of the top altcoins replaced by newer and better ones.

2024 is way far.
For those who are in a rush this year or the next year that will be a long time to wait.
Especially now, when they are saving themselves from inflation and want to invest their money instead of wasting it on things that are unnecessary.
IMO, it's better now because of the cheap price after the dump. The only thing that I am worried about is if another dump will come.
It's not being impatient but more on maximizing the good deals that might not come again.

Especially for beginners who sometimes they are affected by FOMO,
With the current market conditions, I think it's a bit difficult to find a new project that is really of good quality and has potential,
the most important thing before investing make sure we have done research first

While it is true that the top 10 in terms of marketcap looks completely different now than 5 years ago or so i would not agree that it completely changes every bear/bull cycle. If i would had to bet now then i would say that projects like Ethereum, BNB and Solana will probably still be in the top 10 in 2 years from now. Solana could also fall out because there are other layer 1 solutions coming up with Radix and Aptos for example that could dethrone Solana in terms of transaction speed and low transfer costs.
I also don't think that any of those projects that are in the top 20 or even top 50 at the moment will vanish in a bear market because nowadays the crypto market is so mature already that all those top 50 projects are at least multi-million dollar projects.

Actually, it's okay if you want to invest in altcoins but you have to be very careful because we don't know what happens to the coins we buy. During this bear market, many altcoins will reset again and only altcoins that can truly provide benefits to investors can survive and bounce back into the bull market. For coins that have potential, you can do DCA as @OP mentioned. But still, we have to be careful in investing in crypto.

Maybe next year, the trend will change with a new one and usually, if one or several projects can explode in the next year, it will trigger the trend to come more quickly. So get ready for his arrival and try to find more information to choose the project.

This is why Bitcoin is very important in your bags. OGs are aware of this, and it is already proven by time, as time goes by there are a lot of haters with altcoins because they already experienced a lot of things with altcoins and the Bitcoin market along the way.
No problem of buying altcoins, just be careful because if a lot of altcoins are just good in the beginning.

Good for you then but as far as I observe, OP has a point. AThere are many altcoins in this industry and choosing the 'right' ones is not that easy;luck would also be a factor. If you are making profit from investing most of your capital to altcoins, then that's good, but at this moment, big names I guess would be able to come out alive of this bear market. Most of the altcoins have low market volume which makes it best for short term investments. For long runs, established demand,and volume will be the key player to generate profit at the end of the day and this 'movement' for sure.

investing in real altcoins is no longer a matter of being careful, you have to be willing to accept losses when investing in them. what OP said is not wrong, even the top altcoins will very easily be replaced by new ones or they will never be able to recover to their original levels. the past has shown us many times so always be careful, history can repeat itself and does not change. i think in a bad market like this, only bitcoin is the coin that deserves DCA the most, in addition atlcoins should only invest a small amount of capital and should not DCA

That is a very vague timeline without any formal justification as to why we should be choosing that year or date. There is no way we could predict the timeline just like that. Right now market is so volatile and on top of that it’s in bearish while furthermore we are heading towards uncertain recession. All these factors are going to impact the whole ecosystem of Altcoins and could put them state of stagnancy where it could be hard to sell any coin at desired limited market. Let’s just hope that investments will continue to grow in the right direction.

current bearish trend Will ended soon , i am not believe this trend Will run for long time till 2024, maybe 1st quartet we Will see our Investment Will get good return. Bearish trend was good moment to accumulate top coins, it Will recover faster than else.rich people create on bearish market ,i am believe with quote .

What you said is true. This makes it difficult for us to find and buy new coins later because so many altcoins are trying to reach the top position. And it has been proven for a long time because before or after the halving occurs, the position of the altcoin will change and new coins can fill the top position. And it's true, and if we want to do DCA, we can try it on bitcoin because bitcoin will give us the opportunity to get big returns in the future. Maybe altcoins can provide that opportunity but of the many altcoins, we will find it difficult to find.

We never know though, the chance for crypto to bounce back is really anticipated but in terms of economic bounce back that's really a question that will affect the whole world's economy, if there's good news that will take place and the trust coming from wide investors begins to show up then your argument is valid while if they're still doubt that may take place and greed from more big investors continue, we might see more falling price not just with crypto but more on the reflections from the stocks outside.

There's always a connection since it's about the money movement and how the business community will be moved by the market situations.

It seems like that this time people are taking the potential coins as their long term investment. I meant if you must also aware about that potential coins give less risk compared with alts which have low valuation or potential. The chance to make profit is even less compared with altcoin with less potential but i do agree with you if these days taking the potential investment far better rather than getting scammed by investing in the non potential coins.

Yes, it looks like the Web3 project will continue to be present and develop in the following years because it is popular right now so it is not impossible that some of them will replace the old coins that are in the top 10 altcoins, but even though it may happen, it doesn't mean we shouldn't invest with the top altcoins before entering the year 2024 because basically the purpose of investing is to make a profit and we can do it whenever there is an opportunity.

Well, many investors ended up losing from this project, especially those new investors but never I heard of someone committing suicide.
This will show how risky is investing crypto but yes, it was too risky if you never know what you are doing and investing without research. In this bear season, we must be careful choosing altcoins, not only because of scam issues but for the reason because many of these projects are hard to recover. And this is pretty hard for impatient people as instead of waiting for the recovery, panic selling may come and lose.

What the OP said, is based on a lot of speculation, whether web3 becomes something big or ends up being only a buzzword would be worth checking in real.

This might encourage a lot of people to buy shitcoins without any logic which is again bad for their portfolios. After that they will try to sell without knowing why they bought and this cycle ends up draining money.

No wonder people keep losing their faith in altcoins. Compared to that Bitcoin is a way better choice of investment. Why think about what happens in 2024 when you can buy Bitcoin at low price right now?

Yes they will because I don't see much of them right now. My guess is they are still too early and many people are not fond of using them. I tried a couple of them but I feel the laggings. They are still slow and needs more improvement.

I've seen an old coin that adds metaverse on them and other new stuffs so I am thinking that it's also possible for them to add web3. They need to work like that because if not then they will be defeated by the new projects which focus are new trends but there will be an old top coins that can deteriorate overtime and will be replaced by the newer projects because not all simply have the ability to improve.

You are right but there are some ALT coins that you will not have any fulfillment in investing.Like Ethereum, BNB, SOL, there are some such coins, if you don't buy all these coins, you don't need to take much risk.If the Bitcoin market is good, all these coins will be good by themselves.Again apart from all these coins but ALT coin can be considered.In current situation all these coins market is very low but you can buy from this dumping market and make long term investment.

That's a good advice but existence potential altcoins will never disappointed you. agreed that, new top10 is coming but waiting till 2024, that's very long time and not sure! While ether, bnb offers themself with cheap. Many more brand new web3, metaverse coins may come but potential coins will less by number among them. Even in 2024, ether, bnb and others potential coins would have increased heavily then if bull run occurred

It all depended on our own factors. There are lots of "what if" in the process.

We all know that for new projects to somehow expect a good startup, the market should also be on a positive trend or in a bullish way.

Well then, that's your analysis though and if you think that's the better action to do now, keep it that way.

2024 is the year when the Bitcoin Halving will occur, the old Altcoins still exist today, let's call it Dogecoin, this memecoin is in interest even though it doesn't have fundamentals like Ethereum, but has a large community and this causes this coin to survive to this day.

For example new projects that offer Web3 like APTOS, are gaining a lot of trust from investors because the team behind APTOS are Libra developers, I'm happy to see this progress, because when the market is bearish, there are new projects that can make a difference.

There's no guarantee for such thing to happen but as far as i can see if the old project is not doing so good in the development of tech. I meant they were rarely creating an innovation compared with the new project that was heavlly coming to the market. that makes people less interested with them and they were starting to be replaced with the new token in the market. Investing in the low cap token is good enough.

But many new projects are doomed to fail, simply because they have ideas and big words, but there's no product behind, something that is working or will start working in some near future. While some "old ones" are holding pretty well even in these bearish times, it's because they deliver what they promised and they are working fine! 

Investing heavily is OK if you are heavy! Simple as that! People shouldn't go over their heads if they are not completely sure what they are doing, and if they are not aware of the possible consequences if things go wrong... and things can go wrong in seconds when you don't expect it!

And it is still 2022, we still have 14 months+ to go before the year 2024 arrives and there's a lot could happen in that span. I don't know where did the OP got that idea but surely it could be misinterpreted by the beginners if they will read this. Let's stick on what we have right now and take advantage of it as much as we could, we don't really know what lies ahead, so there's really no use to be that negative.

Yeah,, maybe the OP just wanted to share his opinion or what, nevertheless the bear market is still very long and there are a lot of things that can happen, some altcoins might die along the way, but there could be some that will stick thru thick and thin in this bear market and survived and then have a massive bull run in 2024.

So it's better to just take advantage of this bear market, invest on altcoins that you know will have a promising success in the the future, and just put enough money that you are willing to invest and lose.

Yeah right, invest in a market when it is surging.  I think the cryptocurrency market is surging on after 2024.  If we don't invest  now, we are missing a lot because during this bear market, prices of cryptocurrency is plummeting, the right moment to get in in any investment venture.


I think we are in the same page that itis much better to invest now because of the bear market than after 2024 when the bull market is dominating.  @OP's idea is flawed because it looks like an idea of "buying high selling low" low thing because if we buy on 2024 when price is surging, the next phase would be a price crash due to bear market  and we don't want to sell at a loss do we?  So I guess it isn't good to follow @OP's idea.

The OP published a mistake in investing because when the current bear market is signaling it is very appropriate to add a top coin to the portfolio, so the current phase of the downturn is almost near the $17k low after the last ATH and we can buy top coins in this area for long term investment purposes. The op should review the historical price movement chart every year because every bullish or ATH has been passed, make sure the correction area and potential for a bear market in the future.

We cannot deny that many altcoins will be died and failed during this bearish market. even though they can survive and pass this bear market, most of them cannot reach the previous ATH. This is only for those shit coins. I know that there are also some good altcoins that have potential highly for the next bullish era. But, there is no guarantee. ANd investing in altcoins is much riskier than Bitcoin. That is why, why should risk more to altcoins if there is a much better investment in Bitcoin

Yes, Aptos is grabbing everyone's attention in the market and i have tried APT have to say it's a lot faster and smoother than solana. This is considered a rival of solana and I believe it will soon surpass solana in the next bull season, currently we have another notable project like Aptos which is the Sui project. I believe these two factors will create something new in the market during the upcoming bull season and they will most likely replace some old projects. Investing in altcoins whether new or old is always risky, there are no guarantees here so we need to be very cautious because bear season has not ended soon, we should not be subjective.

Obviously, the market Isn’t suitable for investment anymore. Now it is necessary  to recheck everything before taking step. Most of so call altcoins will die cause investors sold those out for avoiding unexpected downfall and waiting for dip with that fund. Now Topcoins are also complex for investment cause they are also going below since last werk but theres no worries for long period investors. And if you already bought what you need,  then its okey for planning investment later

It's still unpredictable for now. I would say that if crypto market was still in a very bad thing this time. The fact that if crypto was facing a huge problem when it comes to the hike rates. it seems like FED was making another decision that was affecting the global market again,
Im not even feeling doubt if investing heavily in alts for this time may be a good or bad choice. This depends on how people are taking it.

The thing we must understand that investment is always at risk including cryptocurrencies, moreover we know that cryptocurrencies are investments like roller coasters so that do not ever invest with money in large sizes, better relaxed and investing only money we usually consider lost.

Altcoins are also different, for example, ETH and BNB in this bear market look as attractive as BTC and they do not need to be put on a par with shitcoins. As for the risks, it is a well-known fact that the higher the risk, the higher the profit. Accordingly, if you have the financial opportunity to take risks, then you need to use it.

for those courage taking risk , actually they deserve to get huge profit in future. Alot investors come to crypto market due this reason , they buying bitcoin altcoin or even shitcoin just to get profits. Risk will occur in every investment not only crypto market but due this risk we could free from poverty. Maybe if accumulate some altcoin , in next 6 months we will gain alot profits.

More number of altcoins gets away from the market during the bear market. This happens, because the market won't have much of investors. Majority will prefer the altcoins that already holds good Proof of history.

It is always good to have investment on altcoins as the market will progress along with bitcoin for sure. Here, it is to be noted, in which coin we're making the investment. Some get lucky and the same won't be the case with everyone.

Investing on altcoins is good and the same needs to be done at some time intervals and with specific amount of fund than just making a big investment at a single shot.

I agree that the market is not too enthusiastic right now, but I also think that there is opportunity in any crisis. Of doubt, the risk of investing in alternative assets is greater during a bear market, but the lucky few who seize the opportunity will come out on top. Whether you are a high-risk taker, a moderate-risk taker, or a low-risk taker who prefers to wait for the bull market before investing, the decision is ultimately yours. In my opinion, the ideal strategy for this time of year is short-term trading.

I partly disagree with that, because not all alts are in a bad shape, there are a lot of good reasons to invest in alts especially today that all alts in a deep trend, but of course with to be cautious in our investment, it is a good timing to onvest in alts if you really know what to do, always DYOR and the most important is, "Invest what you can afford to lose.

Since the popularity of the crypto world has grown greatly, we as crypto users always see that at any time there will be new coins present, but every coin present can all develop because the market competition is very large and only coins managed by an active team can develop and survive in times of market conditions like today, and as you said now there are very many coins lost in the crypto market because there are no fundamentals so they can't survive, and to invest at this time of course the risk is very large so we have to be careful in choosing each coin.

When it comes to the advice that we need to follow there is not a general answer that applies to every single trader, and what is good for us depends on our specific circumstances.

For the investors which have been here for a long time and which have a high level of knowledge about this market they can take way more liberties and they can invest in altcoins at any moment of the bitcoin cycle, but for the majority of the investors out there the advice given in this thread is useful as they do not have what it is needed to invest in altcoins now and obtain profits in the future.

you are talking about Altcoins but you are giving warning for BITCOIN investments.

DCA is what I am using, but also  I am still In HOdling though in bear this isn't really applicable but good to purchase .

A1 projects seems to be protected and safe, waiting to invest in one.

I agree that top alts would be still fine when the bull comes, so that shouldn't be a problem, but even in that case the word "heavily" is the implied thing here. I mean nobody could say that you should not invest into any alt at all, and certainly not say do not invest into ETH or BNB because those are at the top and they are invested right now. But, we can discuss the percentage of how much you invest into those things versus bitcoin.

I would say it is wise to invest into bitcoin heavily, that way you would be able to actually make some profit and also have less security risk as well, it would be a smart decision for sure, and would be much better compared to other coins.

You're making a point, because the Bear market some Alt-coin may not be able to succeed because of dip in the market, which is good to invest on Bitcoin and have a rest of mind as an passive income for a long term holding investment.

actually agreed with this one, if you are investing for long term, even if you need to wait until 2024 until the next bullish run, it's not gonna be a big deal, but if you think that after investing you just need to wait until a week then the value gonna rise, then it's gonna be a big deal since big chance that's not gonna happening with the current trend, it's basically depends in the investing term.

this is true, I think by investing using the money that we could consider not needed, etc we gonna make better decision than using some borrowed money mainly because we aren't within some pressure which mean we could make decision wisely, I think it's the basic of investing that everyone should know and understand since it could save us from losing.

That's a good point of view, if anyone want to always stay safe by stay with top coins although those are alternative. If you compare first five coins to previous years, You'll always find new coins except ether. Furthermore its your own thoughts to investment with topcoins but others investors doesn’t think such way otherwise other altcoins never have existence with their big marketcap

using loan for buying cryptocurrency was high risk,except we have regular salary that coule cover its  payment in every month and fill our needs. Some investor take this high risk strategy due they have monthly salary or business which its income used to other part.but not all altcoin should buy ,we must take only major coins.

We have different on what's happening in a certain market trend.

If we think a certain strategy that is a product of our analysis is the best thing to do, there's nothing wrong to test it.

Our experience will teach us to form a strategy in every trend that we encounter while we move forward.

Investing in crypto is highly consider risky but one needs to go through certain risks inother to achieved targets set .We should invest what we can afford to lose rather than investing what will shake us financially when the project don't come through as expected. Investing in altcoins right now is the simplest measures one have to triggered because we can't be waiting for bull run of Bitcoin and Ethereum. Altcoins always make it to the moon and a trader can easily make 50x of his capital or anything 300x depending on the quantities he or she bagged. I'm taken my chances and have already bagged some for next year bull run.

And this is what I'm doing mate and what i did even in the past , I agree that if we wanted a safer and worth trusting investments? and that is into Bitcoin and not for all altcoins. there are several that I agreed worth trusting but still bitcoin would be the best and better for larger fund to put into.

Obviously bitcoin is the best and safest among all cryptocurrencies especially for the long term, and prioritizing bitcoin is the best option but that doesn't mean some altcoins are unprofitable to do so in the long run.
I still trust some of the top and oldest altcoins I own besides bitcoin and all for the long term, and for bitcoin I do DCA during the downturn because it's a great time to grow ownership gradually.

Yea, some people might misunderstand and generalize that altcoins are shitcoins because we still found potential coins.
But of course, having more share funds allocated to Bitcoin is a great idea. Apparently, this is what I always do for many years because the risk is not quite high compared to putting huge amounts into altcoins. However, it was not all about investing potential coins, not even it gives 100% assurance to have ROI but also matters the way we manage our investment.

Hello. In your opinion, how should I invest at this time & what code should I invest in? Thank you.

True but when you were always feeling worry to invest during the bearish market and then you will never become a millionaire. There are so many legit alts in the market that can be bought heavily as long as if it does have a good fundamental. I think that people were not wanna taking the risk and this is a problem. Some people may play safe compared with others who sometime go all in alts. The profit that will be generated by both will be different.

It's really hard to give financial advise mate, you have to do your own research (DYOR).


Not really advisable to do that, taking a loan and then investing it on crypto. Although that I have heard some advise to go for this route because at least you are not going to put money right away, for me it's not good because of the uncertainty. Even if you have a good job, it is secure enough? So it's better to just invest what you can afford to lose. At least there is no pressure whatsoever, if by chance your investment returns ten folds then good for you.

I personally believe in investing in potential established altcoins which can generate growth in the long term.
I don't usually prefer in investing in altcoins for short term gains. But yeah, if I do get the opportunity then I don't mind putting a little amount for short term as well.
But most of the times I buy coins and keep doing DCA for long term and my bucket list mostly contains BTC, ETH, SOL.

The take of those unsure investors will always be different from how the risk takers are calling their position, those who knows and believes that the market will bounce back will seek for good alts that may give them huge benefits, while those who are lazy will not take anything as they will try to wait for more dump before deciding unluckily before it happen the bull already take over and pump the market.

And sadly, they will buy when the market is already pumping and lose a lot when the correction takes place.

Be precise about how you really understand the market. Don't take it if you are unsure, but be wise in making your decision to spare some
amount who knows you might pick the right alt right?

you are not wrong if you determine these assets for the long term. because the current market situation will also not support for the short term. then the safest we can plan long-term investment.
in the current situation, altcoins will not be a priority. adding quantity to Bitcoin assets would be great in the long run.
If you want to day trade, maybe take some risks on the potential altcoin asset market.

It is not the matter of the time, point is what we need to do isnever be rushed to invest. After a proper research we need to go for investment. DCA can be an option for the risk optimized investment. This is how all this goes on. Atls are risky as i know you cant say anything about progress and stability in altcoins.

In my opinion, it's better to just focus on bitcoin and maybe ethereum, removing sol is a good thing. I can say that investing in altcoins right now is too risky even the top altcoins, I feel they won't die but they will be like old altcoins like from 2013, 2017. Do you remember what happened to old topcoins LTC, XRP, NEM...they didn't die but they never returned to ATH and couldn't compete with more potential new altcoins. We currently have a lot of layer 1 and layer 2 projects coming to market and they will soon replace today's top altcoins.

There is no certainty in cryptocurrency investing even when you put your money in BTC and there is nothing wrong with investing in ALT either, but as you said "Most Alts vanish in a bear market, the main reason is no fundamentals." and that's true, therefore investors should invest in ALT that does have fundamentals such as BNB, ETH, MATIC, etc., it's better to put money in ALT like this compared to new ALT that focuses on Defi, NFT or Metaverse, because most of this new ALT is ultimately a scam.

You indeed mentioned that many altcoins markets have disappeared now due to the bear market season. And the only ones left are the established altcoins in this industry.

Now, if you want to wait for 2024 before you invest in altcoins, that's your method and strategy, and whatever your reason is, of course you know that and we don't care about that.

As long as the situation is a bear or bull market for me, if I know I should buy, I will do it and I will hold it when I want of course.

these are honestly already such good investments, these coin that you mentioned could already guarantee smooth recovery once the bullrun comes, moreover I think these are the ones that gonna be reaching their ath faster than the other coin in general, even though so many are doubtful in regard of the future of coin in general in 2023 I think in that year, we gonna have bullrun and massive increase in value.

It is always good to have a balance approach in our investment.  I don't see altcoin as non-profit investment, instead I see it very profitable as long as we know where to invest.  If you can see the history of altcoin market, there are lots of altcoin investment that yield millions of dollar in a hundred to thousand dollar investment.  It's that we need to do a thorough research so that we can avoid fraud and scam projects.

i think choosing old altcoins is the best choice for long-term and short-term investments.
there are several old altcoin projects that currently still have very good trading volume and high utility that are worth choosing for investment.
for example, ethereum still has a very high trading volume and has a very large community and has the opportunity to have new ATH in the next few years.
old altcoins that already have many communities i think will never scam

If you will do your deep research and if you have time to follow every updates and development from the team, choosing old and functional alt coin is really one of the best thing to do, like what you pointed, the chance of making decent money from both long and short trading can be executed as long as you know and understand the flow, we witness how good ETH and BNB it has been test by time, in each BTC pump those two assets are also moving on the same track.

Though decision making always depends on how you see the potential and how you project your target time frame,

all depends on how you see the benefits and how long you wanted to wait for gaining your target profits.

I don't know if you created that bot and you are now shilling it here but even if not, I think people are still going be cautious with that because they know that telegram is a den of scammers. It is still possible for us to tell if the token address is legit or not even without going to telegram but we will only search the real token and then compare it on what we have found.

Every time is not a good time to invest because not all times the value of the coins are low but sometimes their value are at their highest peak. Now tell me if you have tried investing during that scenario? I believe you haven't because you are afraid of what can happen next.

Bitcoin can't be compared to altcoins and most of the altcoins are just cheat coins without any long-term value but when you hold Bitcoin you are sure of your long-term investment security and since Bitcoin has a relatively stable price the tendency of a sudden crash is minimal.

Unless you looking for some get-rich-quick scheme, that is when you can look in the direction of altcoin but for stability, Bitcoin looks to be the best.

The wisest and smartest thing to invest is in Bitcoin, surely. I really agree with you. Investing from Bitcoin doesn't mean that we will not get any risks of investment. We still have any, but at least, we have chosen the one with lower risks than altcoins. Although the price of Bitcoin is getting crashed because of a market correction, FUD, or even a bearish era period, this doesn't mean that the era of Bitcoin is ended. We can just keep holding the coins and save them for long-term period investment. So, we can still have them in our own wallets. That is why we can prepare them to take profits again when the price has been rising up and passing the price that we bought. The profits of long term for Bitcoin are surely very worthy.

I've added BTC during the market under $20k price pressure for the last 2 months and will never decide to take profit from the short term because BTC has the opportunity to make high profits after the bear market ends, but it's different for categories other than the top 3 coins, so I'll take profit when it has increased min above +10% because altcoin rates are not guaranteed to survive on any price sentiment or follow the main market price even though the market is recovering.

It is a practical thinking but it works so well. We don't need to be greedy, earning a few percent from our investments is good enough. I'd learn about this last 2017 when Bullrun hits the market reaching its new ATH, I am not able to sell my crypto because of thinking more pumps but drops drastically come, and missed the chance to sell at high. It is the wisest thing to take the opportunity to sell them right away if there is a pump showed up, especially in this bear season.
I consider the top 10 coins in the CMC are still a good choice for this bear market if aim for long-term investment as certainly won't disappoint us.

I feel this is the right time to invest in alt because currently alt price is going down so i take this opportunity to take profit in the future i believe alt price will go up and i believe in ethereum and bnb coins.

A pretty good choice if you choose ethereum and BNB, because these two coins are the top coins. Instead of choosing an altcoin that is not clear and only hype at first, it is better to choose a coin that is certain and has a clear development. Just look at the current price of ethereum, it's back up and the market is getting better. Invest what you can afford to lose, and manage every investment you make.
nothing is instant, everything definitely requires a process.

You should set a target in order to enjoy the potential profits unless you are aiming for retirement benefits, as you can keep your assets on hold for long-term and let fate dictate what the future will be for your money. If you are aiming for quick profits, doing a day trade or short-term investment can be practiced with this volatile kind of nature of investment.

Crypto market is hard to predict, the volatility is uncertain, it's your decision whether to keep investing with crypto or to pause for
a while to do your research and re-assess all the potential outcome.

this could be prevented if you could make some analysation I think, the thing with investing in new coin is that it's like trial and error, most of the time you're just gonna be investing in some coin with bad quality, as a result the coin are just gonna be losing their value overtime, I think once you could make some analysation and find the good new coins you could easily make fortune out of it, even growing your initial investments multiple folds, but then again, there's still chance that the project is just gonna be failing.

It really helps in terms of avoiding or lessing the chance of losing a lot, if you know how to analyze and to sort which project or new project that good for your investment, though it's not easy since the marke movements and how the supporters invest with certain projects most of the time is because of hypes, it will bring high-risk investment to you if you failed to do your deep analysis before joining the ride.

In situation that the coin quickly jump then dump after will be a tough decision making if you find yourself being trapped.

Take time to analyze before jumping into conclusion.