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Hello guys,

I am looking for someone that has a group or a similar thing that allows you to pay a subscription and tells you his trading pairs...
Thank you.

You mean to tell you his trading position, not trading pair.

Why not just go for copy trading? Know that you do not have to pay anybody for it. Anyone that says you should pay only want to scam you.

In copy trading, know that a trader you think is good may have losses and it may not favour you, but just a good option for newbie traders. The best is to learn trading, use the amount of money you can afford to lose until you know that you are very good at it, which could take months 1 or 2  years.

Using copy trading, you will be charged some percentage if the trader you are automatically copying trading from is making you to money from trading.

Just that copy trading is the best you can do, but I do not recommend it.

Avoid anyone that PM you, they only want to scam you.

Yes.

I'm not sure how to copy trade, but I am willing to know someones twitter or anything else where he posts about the trades.

I have seen that people pay for subscriptions where the guy tells the group he bought 2 minutes ago a stock or something, and then everybody copies him.

I am looking for something like this but in crypto.

I've know some users in this forum are offering such signal or predictions on their twitter, but I wouldn't suggest any of them here, if you're really want to know, you need to search it yourself. The reason I wouldn't mention their accounts is they're not a trustworthy user and there's no guarantee if their signal are correct. They just post random prediction on their channel, if the prediction is correct they wouldn't delete their post, while it's gone wrong, they can easily delete it to hide their mistake.

If you want to trade, trade yourself with your skill, otherwise don't trade.

Yeah, thats why I'm asking. I can't find these people

I trade synthetic indices and I can help you on this greatly and it will be more better we talk privately in pm or we can talk in Whatsapp if you don't mind

Then you have a big problem, because if you can't find "those people", then you are definitely not ready to recognize if someone is legitimate or if they are setting a trap for you. Successful traders do not share their advice publicly but focus on their goals, and some indicators say that only about 5% of people who trade make a profit.

If you are already going on such adventures, follow at least one rule - invest only as much money as you are ready to lose. Most people learn from mistakes, it's just a question of how expensive those mistakes are.

If you want to copy trade, you do not have to follow anyone on social media, they will only scam you. All you need to do is to register on exchanges that support copy trading.

Like on Binance, after registering, click on future (future trading), on top you will see the future derivative types like UST-M, Coin-M and option trading. Beside option trading, you will see leaderboard. Click on leaderboard and click on Tradingwagon and follow the remaing setup.

But know that the trader you are following may also lose, you have to be careful. Use low leverage too.

My best advice would be that you should learn how to trade though and never depend on anyone.

If I were you, I wouldn't because I'd rather try to learn to trade and do the analysis myself. It's okay if you get signals from other people. Still, you also have to learn to analyze and it's safer than anything, even copy trades or directly use signals given by others because we are still analyzing signals from them. But if you want to get trading signals, I think you can look for them in the telegram group and there are lots of paid groups offering to provide signals for you. But for the validity of that signal, I don't know because I don't use it.

Thank you. Do you know some telegram groups?

This can  be seen as :

• Being a person who is good at trading and wants to earn extra money or fame by selling his trading method: here you will not find these people because it means that he can easily make money.
• That this person is a scammer: This is the vast majority.

Good, experienced traders teach you to fish, not to give you a fish.

But what you say is not entirely true. You certainly know the type of Copytrade platform that will find many traders who share the results of their trading plans that can be followed and copied to join the trade and benefit from the results of the copy trading. Pretty easy isn't it? But about the risk of loss of course there is. You just have to choose a trader who has good recommendations and a high level of trading success. The famous Copytrade platform is Etoro which has been widely used by professional traders and several other copytrade platforms such as BingX, Bityard, Bybit, CopyMe etc.

Some of the people registered in the copytrade are professionals and already have a lot of experience, it can be seen from the trading history and how much profit and loss they make. The use of copytrade is only an alternative for those who do not have full time to do analysis, this is only optional, you don't have to use it, just according to your needs.
A good trader will indeed teach us how to fish, not give us fish. We are only given the bait and they will execute it.

Yeah there are many veteran traders who hint about the coins that they are buying and you can use those calls to trade.
Basically they do it for free, they just post it in their twitter feed.
Moreover if you want to know more about the coin that they post, then you can just simply search tweets about that coins in twitter and can see what other people also saying about it.
Some good traders I know are here
https://mobile.twitter.com/Astrones2
https://mobile.twitter.com/jacqmelinek
https://mobile.twitter.com/WSBChairman

Hope this helps you OP.

If you finally get a person you are copying their trade or following the calls that they make, be careful not to start paying unnecessary money for it. Many people call out trades to collect money and not that they are really making profit but recovery the money from such copying business. While copying then try to learn if you have passion for trading, it is better to learn the trading skills and knowledge.

Nobody will advise you to go for that because all most of this signals are not true they are all liars, so don't bother yourself looking for any signal groups. Always try to learn how to trade yourself by consulting people who you know that they have good knowledge about it, and by also reading some books on trading strategies and gradually you make improve.
So don't be so eager to make it because cryptocurrency need patience always but are not patient you end up in hand of scammers.

I know a lot of signal group before, but I can’t find them anymore I don’t know if they just change their group name or just stop operating and scam people who trusted that group that much. I understand you want to make money OP but I’m telling you that you are doing it wrong, it’s not ok to depend to any signal group they are known to be scam and not worth it at all. I suggest to learn on your own, create your own strategy and trade according to your own analysis, don’t rely on any signal group that’s too risky.

You're looking for a trading signal that will just give you false hopes with those pairs and only the group leader will earn from those subscription fees.
If you want to copy trade, just try to follow an exchange that has a copy trade feature. One that I know is with etoro and I don't know the rest of the popular exchanges.

Better to use that amount to be paid into something which is worth, better add it up into your trading capital.Joining up some group or following someone is never been that ideal.
It would assure nor ensure that you would really make money.Just like the rest who had been advising that its never been worth on spending money which you could only get
still those mere speculative approach and analysis.Nothing beats out if you do make on your own and learn for yourself on how to trade.Dont make yourself that too lazy
because it would really be just resulting into this one.

This is similarly to joining trading/signal groups and its not always for the best. For me, I prefer most individuals with a particular need to trade but have no experience to just buy coin and hold for a long time while trying trading on a demo mode. It will serve you better other than having trier and fail experience as that would be you losing money and loosing faith in trading as the case always is after several failed attempts.

The other sides to this is that, there might be a get out strategy or a plan B that wasn't shared and even if it were to be shared, you might not be active to receive it. Other issues could range from proper time to use the shared signals, your account size in comparison with the signal source and more of those. As your account size could determine how long you can stay in the market while waiting on a bad trade to reverse. You might not have that luxury as per account size but, the signaler just might.

Just to add, sourcing out of this and being ready to pay could get you scammed. Exercise caution.

Trading signals. There's no wrong in subscribing to these kinds of groups as long as they are legit. The only downside here is you are relying on them and you are not learning at all.
There are some groups who offer signals and the same time lessons, which is a very good group for me, they are helping their members to learn trading not just giving random signals without any explainations.

I feel I should learn to trade from multiple sources rather than look for signal groups, paid or free, and use the money to practice what I've earned. It would be much better because at least I can learn about trading and if I study harder, I can have better trading skills. If we just rely on signals from other people, it might be okay but just imagine what will happen to you when someone else can't give you the right signal or he disappears with your money. You will be disappointed not to get anything from him. But that's up to you. In this case, we can't give you the best about that signal group.

what you do will make you more experienced in trading. keep going and you will get to the goal. Don't be afraid you will risk a bigger loss because you are in the process of becoming a successful trader.
but we can't deny, many signal groups do sell and share trading plans. they even create accounts on exchanges that have copy trading features for them to apply to members.

paying someone to follow his trades can actually allow you to learn how he trades, but if you only follow him just to get signals then it will be useless,
because it's better to be able to analyze yourself than to follow someone. or maybe you can follow people on twitter and it's free.

Avoid those groups as much as you can, it may seem as if this is a fast way to obtain profits as instead of getting the skill to trade the markets on your own you can just borrow the skill of someone else.

But think about it, anyone which actually had the skill can make more money by just trading the markets, so almost all of those which are promoting their signals are either incompetent or scammers, now there could be a few legitimate groups out there but they are simply too few compared to the number of scammers trying to get your money.

There aren’t any out there that will make you any money. They are all pretty much scams. If someone is so good at trading and they make lots of money. Why waste their time providing trading signals when they can just trade on their own.

Even if you find some videos online of their trading. Most likely they hedged their position somehow or they faked the video. Avoid any of these crypto paid groups.

I don't think is advisable for newbies to copy trading, because it will not help you to become a great person in future. Some professional traders will never expose their strategies they are using to make their money in this bear season, because they don't want anybody to know their secret behind their money in the community. Since, there are many platform were you can look or watch to know the next step to take that will make you not to experience failure in your crypto trading than to help you improve in profits making.

it's better to learn it yourself and do it slowly, and it's true that almost no trader wants his plans to be known by others and I never trust trading signals circulating on social media except from the community community or friends.

I just want to ask why you are looking for this group. Is it because what you want is that you will make money in trading? although I know that all of us here want to make money here, do you know that what you are doing can make you a victim of exploitative people here in crypto trading? But if you're ready to take a risk because it's your money, you know there's a lot of it on the telegram channel, just type trading signals in the search and a lot of them will come out for sure.

As far as I know, there are also Twitter and youtube, try to find out about those on the platforms I mentioned dude, I hope you're not stupid, good luck to you.

if you have capital it's better for investment than following paid signals, even though on youtube and twitter there are also many free signals that experts give you,
and of course you can learn from there, it will be very comfortable and convenient if you don't follow paid signals and prefer to study alone.

some traders don't have time for that. but they want to keep trading in the market for profit.
it is like copy trading provided by the exchange. no problem using such a feature. as long as we follow the right partner.
some pro or community traders usually create their accounts to follow. they open signals to share with their followers. some share it for free in groups some do share it for private groups only (paid of course)

That's what we should do if we really want to have the ability to trade so that we don't have to rely on other people's abilities or even wait for them to give signals. It will also be better for us because by continuing to learn, our trading skills will get better over time.

But maybe he can try to get signals from groups but I suggest not trying to subscribe to signals from paid groups because the results might not be worth it. For copy trading, I also don't recommend it because we also won't always be able to profit and risk losing if we choose the wrong trader.

Let’s say following them will give you first hand profits OP, but the question is how long will you be doing that? You are not going to depend on them the whole time and expect profits all the time. Simply because trading should be learned by yourself and develop skills and strategies on your own. Otherwise, if you keep paying on them, you are not making profits but you are the one giving them profits. And always know that even pros in trading also end up with losses, so expect more losses too if you always rely for others for trading signals or positions.

How you would able to determine a right partner? Someone do make constant profits and make your capital or invested money grows bigger?
If you do see some copy trading real stories behind then you would definitely be finding yourself to have doubts after than.Im not saying follow trading is bad
but its not something that people should really be pursuing on.Its not really worth for your money to be spent on and its just better
if you do really make out those money to be added on your capital.

Do you mean such trading signal groups? the paid one?
Well, mate, I know that trading needs certain analysis to be abe to know the position. But, if you are new and not able to do that analysis, it is better for you to learn first. Getting into a paid trading signal or other similar terms may not be really effective and efficient for you. However, they commonly will not guarantee the results. There is no trading signal that will work 100%.
It needs certain process to be able to analyze ethe trading activities, not only about the trading pairs or positions, but also other management of the funds, your emotion, and also strategy in order to face market codnition that will commonly be changing eveyr time.

I have not subscribe to any paid signal or join the group. But this is the obvious logical thinking here, even if you paid them, of course you will make profits, but for sure it will not be 100% all the time. And worst, you could lose money in the end if the signal is not that good anymore.

So for us, it's better if we start from scratch and learn the tricks of trading instead of relying to someone who at the end might be just playing you since you already paid them first.

In this world of crypto, there will always be a person just like the op who prefer to use their money to make their life more easier but I think they can still learn later on in their own once they think that what they are doing is not really that beneficial and they think they are only being scammed because there are a lot of scammers lurking around in telegram.

These people are only copying other trader's advice or will give fake advises that won't just work. It's always better to trade on our own. Not only it's free but it also have other benefits like we can venture other activities beyond trading because we already build an experience and we think other things are now going to be easy for us to understand.

I will like to ask if you have any experience trading?, If your answer is no then use the amount you have proposed to use for the payment of this copy trading to get the knowledge first then you can copy trade that way you can tell how accurate the signals you get are. The fact a signal is always on profit doesn't guarantee it is accurate sometimes luck adds up. Get the knowledge that way you too can confirm what ever signal you receive

That was risky. Are you sure about that? Even if there's a legit service, the success rate can't be determined.

Such subscriptions are mostly scams and not trustworthy if you will encounters such offers thru recommendations or someone DM you directly.

If you like to do copy trading, try to refer to the E-Toro website (https://www.etoro.com/). They are a legit platform and have the copy-trading feature but I think the price is really expensive.

Why not just try reputable platform that has option to let you copy traders that are making good profits. If I'm not mistaken, E-toro offers copy trading, that's much better I think rather than looking for someone who could provide you the same thing but will just probably scam you. People like that are in telegram and discord, trust me, it's not worth the money. If you're dedicated really in trading, I suggest self study instead of relying on someone you don't really know.

Learning how to trade all by yourself requires both patience, and hard work and people do not want to have to deal with those two. It requires patience because you need to study for a long time to learn how to be better, most of the time it doesn't mean that you will be bad for years, but it is very difficult to be good on the first month as well.

It also requires hard work because you can't just study 10 minutes a day and be good in a month, you need to study for hours each day for months to be good, and not many people have that kind of dedication to things. This is why they prefer signals or people to follow how to trade coins to make money instead.

I can't really recommend any group for you because am not always in support of copy trade or trading signals, since I don't really use it so I don't have much idea about it. But am sure when you get to Telegram you will see tons of those groups their, just that most of them are fake, they just want to take your money, so I won't recommend you to subscribe for any of them. But I know of a exchange that supports copy trade which is BYBIT exchange, actually have not used their copy trading futures before, some I can't say how it works, but you can just give it a trial. But avoid Telegram groups because most of them just want to scam you.

This is correct, while I do not agree with the idea of copying someone else or relying completely on them if someone is looking to do something like this then it is a huge mistake to think they are going to find a legitimate group at telegram of all places, when we know the place is full of scammers which want nothing but to get your money through all means possible, so if someone is looking for something like this their best bet is to use an exchange with this feature.

There are features that allows copy trading but it's not that good at all if someone will rely on completely. That's a wise strategy if we're going to think of it.

But doing that, you'll eventually realize that it doesn't look good if you'll be copying others way of trading because it might not work for you.

I guess for starters, it's a good way to start trading but if you've already learned the basics, make your way to your own strategies.

I would say, forget that idea. There are no groups with such reliable information.

Just come to think of it, if it's that easy to earn money in trading, we should be all earning decently now.

I suggest to just learn it the hard way and build experience.

I see no reason why you will want to be a trader and you won't learn how to do research yourself, I see no reason why you should copy someone else's trade, we should all look for strategy that work's for us. Their are lot's of newbies looking for copy trading and trading signals that's why most of them always lose money, some of them will go to the length of paying people just to get signal which most of those signals are fake, I believe anybody that's having intention to be in crypto space for long term should learn how to read and go on research always and not to depend on anybody or what people say.

It's true that if you are doing copy trading, You won't maximize your knowledge about trading and will be hard stucked with the current knowledge you are having knowing that you aren't gaining experience from the profit you are earning. Not everyone want's to learn trading the hard way but most of us wants to earn money from trading and I think that copy trading isn't that bad as long as you know what you are doing and you are not ignorant about thinks. It's almost the same at following other signals and charts, You are just putting some convenience into yourself by paying someone to let you copy their trades.

Going wrong direction dude as this is not the real way to trade, it can lead you to a major loss, and bro what about the learning things out there so I am sure that you should follow all of your signals and make your own analysis. As it can make you able to be independent and trading in low volatile market is too good to learn also try to avoid margin.

Its not indeed the best way on which you do really make yourself do rely into others analysis which arent even assured that they are good ones or having high chance of profiting.
Just like the rest been saying that it would be wise if you do make those money to be paid to be used as a capital rather than paying up someone just to give you out speculative
predictions which arent even not that sure if it could bring out some profits.Its never been worth and it would be rather sensible or wise if you do make you own analysis and
depending on it.Try to engage with the market on real time and making yourself that better as you do go ahead.

It only seems from the outside that those who subscribe to paid signal groups earn money. But when you buy a subscription, you will find that not all transactions bring profit and that you simply do not have time to copy the next signal, and all this ultimately leads to losses. For this reason, no one will recommend paid groups to you here, since they are not a panacea for those who do not know how to trade independently.

Not good to do because most of that are scams so for sure it will be hard for you to find legitimate one since there are so rampant scamming using this kind of method. If you can take a risk since you don't know anything about trading then try what other people recommends or you find on internet. But make sure you do all precautionary measures to avoid receiving huge financial damage and always take notes on what they do so that you can get an idea on how to trade for yourself.

By studying the signals he gets, he will be able to figure out how to get a signal for himself because signals from other people will not work optimally for him. This can help him develop his analytical skills and know when to trade. But if he persists in using signals from other people without studying it further, we can't do anything about it because it's his own decision. And hopefully, he can figure out if it's right or wrong to do.

When you are just starting then you would definitely be having that impression that it should do if you are just simply following but sooner or later you would really be finding out to study on what

that mentor or signal provider is giving you which its impossible that you wont really be considering on going in depth with those signals been provided so at least you do make yourself learn along the way.

All depends because not all people would really be mindful on things that they've been doing but rather heavily be that dependent on someone who do get paid on doing that.

Isn't this the same like a paid signal group?

It's true that most of these or most people who would ask a signal like group would not benefits anything if trusted the wrong person. It's so rare to find someone whom you can trust that would actually give you a profit if giving trade idea correctly. Scammers are everywhere that's why they always lurk somewhere to someone like OP to scam them. It's just best to find it for yourself or study trading on your own if you can't find anyone who would like to teach you how to trade correctly since most of them would take advantage of your lack of knowledge.

Yes, that is very true and by following these methods, it is hoped that they will be able to analyze themselves and, in the end, will not use signals from other people because by studying like that, their analytical skills will develop well. Maybe we can find a mentor or friend who can really analyze well and want to teach us how to analyze properly and correctly so that we can improve the abilities we have and can be useful for us later. Moreover, do not forget to practice what we have learned so we can see what we still have to learn.

Either an individual or a group then it would really be just the same because you are just still paying for something in relation to trading signals or hints or analysis which you would be needing to follow.
Just like the rest been saying that its never been that ideal on making yourself relying with these people since you could actually make on your own which is free of charge.Also, you could really enhanced
out your skills which you would really be making yourself independent and wont really be eyeing anymore into these kind of traders since you could make on your own.
Following plus learning is also considerable and it will really be just depending on someone on how they would gonna handle theirselves.

Getting signals in order to try to reverse engineer the exact strategy used by a trader may seem like a good idea, but most traders already tell you how do they get their signals so there is not much of a point on doing something like that.

However such a strategy could be worth it if you could for example copy the trades of those which are successful at popular exchanges and then you could use your expertise to reverse engineer their strategy, however if you were good enough to do something like that it is also likely you could create your own winning strategy on your own, so even that option does not makes the most sense.

If you finally find someone whose trade you are emulating or whose calls you are following, be careful not to start spending excessive amounts of money on it. While they may not actually be generating a profit, many people call out trades to collect money from copied businesses. If you have a passion for trading, it is best to master the trading knowledge and skills while copying.

It is just like looking for someone who could scam you. Maybe I was just kidding but the truth is that may you can find someone who makes such a favor but never think it will become profitable and work well. Honestly, I don't give advice of doing that, not because it is risky but because I'm not sure if that person is the right person for you. Instead of doing this, make help of yourselves to learn trading personally is this even make you more knowledgeable. Stop being lazy but have work on your own if you want to grow and know more about trading.

But it's worth doing if they really want to get better at trading and not many people can have the patience to learn and find their own way of trading. If you really try hard and don't give up on it all, you will surely succeed one day because your struggle in learning will not deceive you. You will definitely become a good trader who can find out when to trade and analyse the market's state to trade. It is important not to give up because it will only make you forget your purpose for trading.

Let's just leave those still trying to follow the signals of others because it won't give them much. And if we already understand how to trade well, we can also give them a signal and, at the same time, teach them about trading. It would certainly be better for them.

I think this will be much better when the general market is on a good move or bullish movement. Only if op decide to be trading on a downward direction then he can make some profits from copy trading and also trading. One thing we need to understand about trading is that is good to copy a good trader for a while so one cam learn how the market works and move and also how to reactive at a particular condition of the market.
You can just decided to copy trade without having good idea of the market and how the market moves. The market is so big and wide and we wouldn't want to make a big mistake that will cost us a big blow or regret later.

Anyone that wants to trade the markets need to be more committed on their decision, if they want to trade that is fine but then they need to employ all of their free time for months in order to become successful, if they think this is a sacrifice too big for them to make maybe it is time for them to reconsider their desire to actually trade the markets, as that lack of commitment is only going to hurt them on the long run, since most of those which get success in the markets do so on their own without the help of anyone else.

Majority of us would really be that suggesting that it would be better if we do really make our own trades rather than making yourself that believe into someones trading success rate.

Some do really touch up copy trading or simply they are just too lazy on making their own trades.Its never been worth on wasting up your money into something which you could eventually make your own trades.

On the time that the person you are following had stopped? Then what you would do? Finding another one? What if the person you had followed had messed up their trades and losing the capital you do have?

For sure you would really be ending up on regretting and murmuring that you should have trade on your own and you might end up on having much better analysis.
Its never been good on copying someones trades and it would be better to learn and make on your own.

Well, OP, I hope you've got it right. But as you can see, many members are opposing your plan, and it was because we care about your future.
Honestly, you don't need someone to work with you but it was someone who guide you to become a good trader. Because at the moment that you understand trading, you can simply stand on your own feet and make decisions alone. If we wanted to grow and excel from trading, therefore, we have to work hard and stop relying on others.

People need to be way more honest with themselves, if they do not want to learn how to trade on their own that is fine but then they need to stay away from trading, and if they want to earn money while trading the markets then they need to be ready to study them for months.

This idea of not learning anything about the markets and still make money while trading them is ridiculous, would we allow a person to perform a surgery while being guided by a surgeon? Of course not, the surgeon is the one that should take the responsibility as they are the ones with the necessary medical knowledge, and a similar idea should be applied to those which want to trade the markets while knowing nothing about them.

And there are a lot of people who wanted their trading life so easy. They can use their money to hire people on their behalf which is not totally a bad idea. However, it was not the thing we should do always, instead we help ourselves to know more also about trading and embrace the responsibility to rely on other people who have no way to go far, we end up shortly and blame ourselves. As long as we have time and are capable to trade, I think we should do it personally.

that's right, looking for a guide for us to learn trading will be better than us giving our money to trade with others.
indeed the goal will be the same, namely to seek profit. we have the same goal in trading. no one wants to intentionally lose in the trade they make.
develop our potential to continue to grow I think it will be better than we have to depend on others.

How to know which is legit?

Better to learn something on how to trade for yourself rather than handing out easily your money to strangers online since you will just waste your money if you get caught by scammer hiding on a trader disguise. We need to be self dependent since we cannot get any get anything huge or change for betterment if we really on other people skills.

99.9999% of the people claiming to give trading signals in return for paid subscriptions are scammers who have no idea what they are doing but they pretend like they are making a lot of money. If they truly made so much money with their trading, don't you think that they would not be asking for money from strangers?

I would suggesting staying far away from these "influencers" who offer something in exchange for your money. Its never worth it.

The only way to make money trading is by learning how to trade. And if you need to practice then there are money sites that offer dummy-coins on a dummy-exchange that you can practice with. Or just do thought-trading by looking at charts and documenting your "virtual" trades.

When you feel certain enough that you can make money, then and only then should you trade with real money.

Why we cant say 100%?  ;D
If they are really making profits then we can logically say that whats the point of asking out for some paid subscription if we could do it on our own? For sure you would definitely be able to make more than that.
It would really be no sense that someone do really make out profits and still asking out for some followers for them to pay up some sub fees which simply means that as a personal opinion that its never been
wise on wasting up your money on something that doesnt really give out relevance on your trades.Yes, they might be having some high profitability but its never been that recommended on walking into this path.
You cant really make assurances that you do make money and its better to trade on your own which is much more wiser.

Seems you are not ready to trade OP so better yet, focus on investing first and never invest an amount you can’t hardly afford. Also, learn to develop trading on your own through watching some free video tutorials in youtube. That way, you will gain ideas how to trade and on different scenarios in trading. Although copy trading may be good especially if you are still a newbie, but if you want to make consistent profits in trading, you cannot rely on it completely. Have your own skills and strategies in trading so you can be a good trader in the making.

A paid subscription sounds like the signals group or copy-trading follower-ships that are commonly tried by naive newbies to easily lose their money in the hands of scammers posing as the same. This comes from the get-rich-quick mindset with added laziness to make easy money, forgetting that money is never an easy commodity to get, otherwise there would be no poverty in this world.

If OP wants to trade, learn how to do it first instead of trying to follow someone or some group which will feed you with fake pointers. The hard way is the correct way and trying to get into a shortcut is a wrong step here.

I hope the OP has understood this clearly from all the input in this thread.

Newbies need to wake up, there is no way that those signals groups are for real, even if the trader behind those groups has good intentions and he does not plan to scam the people that are following him, it is still almost impossible that someone that has the knowledge to trade the markets successfully will waste his time sharing his knowledge when he could just trade on his own, remain quiet and then make a fortune out of the same people he is trying to help.

You would be just needing that logic and common sense which you would really be thinking that if they are profitable then they wont indeed wasting off their time on letting others know.
Newbies do usually easily believe with these kind of things which they get fooled that they could assure on making profits for long term but totally different.
Its not always ending up on positive result or outcome which it would made you realize that it would be better if you would make your own trading style and method
rather than making yourself get too dependent with these so called trade gurus and professionals.

This was the route I took, instead of subscribing to signal groups or channels, though it took me spirited efforts a lot of time and perseverance to reach where Iam today in trading, I learn those skills without a mentor, I read a lot of articles, journals and documents on trading including watching YouTube videos, I started from the basics because forex trading was my first priority and  point of learning was babypip.com where I learned all the elementary and newbie articles and studied till it advance and more complex ones, I also installed Charting platform on both Laptop and phone Mt4 thereafter funding my account with some small funds which I am trading with presently with a broker.

If I were you, I wouldn't waste time and money paying these people from the trade signals group and the reason is quite simple:

imagine that someone is a true trading genius, this person to make a profit needs to spend hours a day looking at charts and buying and selling, of course this person will have losses, it will not be every day that he will make a profit, but when that person has a big bank value he will have high profits, so why would this person create a group on the telegram channel to charge money and have more work to do a lot of technical analysis while this person can be earning a good amount of money? even if someone tells me: "one can create a bot" but if this bot is so good at trading then why would anyone need other people's money?

Yes, in fact it is a spectacular thing to say what happens is that sometimes most of the traders who make their trades and one can do the copy, it is only based on technical analysis and when technical analysis fails (according to the book of a random walk on Wall Street) is 80%, just like the fundamental analysis, the only thing is that a more fundamental technical analysis is done and then if they launch the signal, and even so at this time there is a large percentage of It fails, and one of the reasons is because there is no consolidated volume, and it is difficult to trade like that. In my case, I always look at the volume of BInance and the volume of Bitfinex.

I suggest not looking for tipsters, because people who offer these services are deceivers trying to gather data from newbies like you, so they can resell it for other people, including scammers, or they just want a large database of customers to sell their products and services later through spam techniques. Telegram, whatsapp and discord are full of useless groups of people thinking they will be helped by crypto market's analysts, although analystis can't predict anything on short run in this market. Invest by yourself thinking on long term.

I am aware that some forum members provide such signals or predictions on Twitter, but I would not recommend any of them here. If you are truly interested in learning more, you must conduct your own research. They are not a reliable user, and there is no assurance that their signals are accurate, so I wouldn't recommend mentioning their accounts. They simply publish arbitrary predictions on their channel; if the prediction is accurate, they won't remove their post; if the prediction is incorrect, they can simply remove it to cover up their error.

As long as what is shared is a signal without having to pay a subscription fee, it doesn't matter, just use it as an additional reference and use it if you have studied it before deciding to follow it or not, but if there are special funds to be allocated for trading activities, traders can follow copy trades only need to choose the right lead trades

While in theory using those signals as a reference could work there are a lot of troubles with this, the first one is that if you take the time to read the Internet about the future developments of the market you will find a lot of contradictory information, so instead of helping you something like this could end up confusing you even more, another problem is that we know people look for more information when they are facing a problem, which means someone looking for signals is doing so because they lack the knowledge to understand the market or they need money now, which makes them way more susceptible to follow signals without thinking about he quality of the signals they are receiving.

I want to tell you from my observation and understanding, that it's better for you to find your own derivatives of making your own success in trading, because it's not many people who like to share their knowledge of their method achievement of trading to one another, i know that the basic objectives of the community is to embrace a cogent knowledge of cryptocurrency trading. So it's better to create your own pathways of surviving.

Well for me it is not ideal to do because like you are letting someone to make a trade with your assets and letting them a chance to lose or to gain well it is quite risky to me and not ideal to do but if you want to do this kind of thing ideal is to use a copy trading like in etoro and afaik by bingx also offering this feature and they have paper money you can use as a training ground, not ideal to make a copy trade in social media because we know there's a lot of scammer grab this opportunity to get your funds.

Im not comfortable with that kind of set up on which you do let others do really take control of your funds or you are entrusting your money on some dude online which they do still simply make out
those speculations which you could definitely also create on your own.This is why its never been worth on paying up someone for you to follow but if its totally free then it wont really be that a bad idea
on getting some ideas but totally reliant and depending on them wont really be that a good idea to be done.Its better to make your own analysis and steps or decisions in towards your investment.
Well, we do have different perception when it comes to things but something like this is never been that recommendable.

It is "better" to create that path, but it is also not that easy. Many people forget that most people in the crypto world do not have that much understanding of the finance world or even have basic math. I have seen a lot of people who failed to do basic stuff like addition or multiply and all that.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be focusing on anything that will make a big deal for us and fail. If you do not have any talent in any of this, and you think you will not be able to ever understand it, not because you are an idiot, but because you care about other stuff and this topic doesn't interest you then there are two things to do. Either you are going to not care about crypto, in which case it’s gone, or you are going to end up with something like getting help from other people.

You can actually do that but it also requires high fees. But to be honest, I don’t want to encourage you to do that because that will not help you in the long run. You became dependent every time you trade. And you lost actually the reason why you chose to be a trader. Just trust yourself and trust the process. You may suffer from losses at first and commit a lot of mistakes, but it’s normal for a newbie to experience like that. Everything will change and improve in the future, as long as you also learn from all your mistakes and get up every time you fall, and continue to grow as a trader. In the end, you’ll be thankful from all your losses and mistakes because of them, you are now a profitable and a successful trader.

for free copytrading seems difficult to find especially with a high level of trading professionalism, even though there is, it's just a promotion for a while. indeed it would be better to manage their own money, but unfortunately not everyone is able to control their emotions to work according to the rules made by themselves, and the copy trading path is not bad if we really know the professionalism of the people we follow, unfortunately it is not something easy, and of course risky

It is a great advice, for my way of seeing trading, it is much better when one reads books, but books of market speculators, of investors, not of those who teach how to do technical analysis, because only understanding the reason for the movement is that you can go very far, most people who are paid to give signals or copy-trading are based on technical and short-term analysis, real traders study many variants, volume, and take into account what is happening in the world today and what may come, according to it the fundamental and technical analysis is done to have a greater quality of the bitcoin market system.

So at the end the ones that are trying to find a trader to follow are doing so because they want to take a shortcut and instead of learning how to trade by themselves they want to find another person to do it for them, however this is a terrible idea, if you cannot trade then you should not be part of the markets and instead take your time and learn how to do it, but since people are greedy they do not want to do this, and eventually they lose their money without learning anything worthwhile in the process either.

Everything that do take the shortcut way would eventually be experiencing fails and errors in the end or simply you would be going back to square one.Its never been that recommendable that you would be following or

letting others do lead up with your trading decisions.Its never been worth for your money to be wasted off with such things and nothing beats out into those who do trade on their own.Its not just talking about those

regretful times or events but also you could really make yourself to learn up trading on your own which would really be that something useful in the future or onwards on the time
you've been dealing with it actively.

Paid Trading signal?
I don't know if this will be effective or not. But, in my experience, this may not be very effective if we don't have enough knowledge about trading at first. At least, we have the knowledge, so we really understand what to dow ith the signal. Sometimes, they shared a trading signals in which they have taken profit at firs, so when we get the shares, it probably has to change price. That is why we need to consider this again by analyzing the recent price to enter the position with enough margin and leverage. Additionally, ensure that you get the group that also give you the explanation and also a lesson about trading and what to do, including the recent news and condition. Why? Because, only folowing witout any learning will mean nothing.

I suggest Qure.Finance (ex. Qooore), where it helps a new generation of investors earn money by following the insights of top-rated financial influencers, allowing them to learn and draw inspiration from their trading styles.
You may subscribe to the best trader in the app.
Some traders also post signals in the discord channel and you can see them without even subscribing.
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You should go to Twitter where many people keep sharing their analyses and trader setup for different cryptocurrencies. And It's completely free, no subscription is required.

I've been following several influencers and trading professionals on Twitter to check their analysis of the market but to be honest, they are not reliable all the time because some of their predictions are not accurate. It's not always advisable to rely on the trading analysis of others. It's better if you'll learn how to do it on your own and have the confidence to predict based on your knowledge so you'll be able to create reliable decisions which could help your trading journey succeed.

Twitter is a place where many self-proclaimed traders post their methods or strategies. While the truth in such posts is questionable, it is not that all of them are fake. However the outcome from such comments is never going to be 100% accurate. Hence they should not be taken as financial advice.

Whichever trading is done, listening to someone else to do your trade means being a fool. Remember that since it is free, it is mostly fake stuff is going to come in. The Twitter pages that run often run on advertisements which pay them, so they post such things to get more followers.

The more followers the more money they get. random people who are on Twitter mostly just do manipulative for the benefit and benefit of themselves or their own group. there are only a few people who are professionals who provide analysis of market conditions. But there really can't be an excuse to always listen to trading advice from other people. It's better to do the analysis yourself, the more often you trade, the more skilled the analysis will be.

For me it's better to pay for trading experts to learn more especially to have a skills and to become good in it because surely i can make profits on my own work than following some traders online and pay them for their work coz its skeptical and there's no assurance that on every trade you can make a lot of profits.. For short you don't have any idea how your money will grow on them especially if you're lack of knowledge..  So it's always good to become knowledgeable than relying to someone else.

You need to be aware that even the best traders can do mistakes and copying them will involve financial risk. The best approach is to learn some trading by yourself and keep the risk controlled. There is no certainty if you rely on others.

Let me know if you have any questions or need some assistance.

Its never been worth but its not really bad on getting or seeing some strategies on which others been doing but of course you dont really need to spend a dime on getting those since it could
really be just for free.Its never been worth on making yourself paying up on something which doesnt give out assurance.You could really learn on your own if you wanted to.
Better to make use of those amounts for you to make trades even on small amounts which you could really make yourself that knowledgeable.
Make some small steps and learning until you do find yourself that sustainable or somewhat do able to survive this market volatility.

That is because Twitter is more crypto oriented than in Facebook, Instagram and others, so it's normal seeing them there and there's also those who shill useless tokens. I heard that having that blue check mark now on Twitter is easy to obtain and they will just pay some amount to avail it so this shouldn't be enough as a basis to trust that Twitter user.

It is still best to do trading on our own so that we are sure that we are not being fooled by someone else who only wants to manipulate the market. It's okay if we lose on our earlier tries because losing is also part of the learning process but we can always improve it as long as we pursue our passion.

Mistakes do really make us learn along the way or further ahead which it would really be a stepping stone for us to be more better than on yesterdays.If ever you do pay up someone for you to follow on trading

and then realize that it wasnt worth then this is where you do learn.You would really be able to realize that it is really much better if you do trade on your own and wont really be relying into someone.

Just like the rest been saying that its never been worth for you to pay up just for those tips and signals because all of us here on this market are all speculators.
No one could precisely predict on where these prices would be heading up to, even you do say that you are a professional.

You could also use the copy trading as a reference about why they choose those desired coins and how they choose one, after you're comfortable with everything then it's time for you to do it by yourself with "knowledge" from that copy trading. The wrong thing is to always relying on this copy-trade to do everything for you, you will lose no matter what the condition is.

I agree with you that it is better to take a course or something to learn to trade. Following the results of other people's analysis does not always make us profitable and I think it will be difficult for us to understand what they are doing, I mean sometimes they just convey what they want to convey and when we ask about something we don't know. it's understandable that they are reluctant to answer, that's what I know there are several groups that offer us to follow their trading pairs. I'm not going to ban everything, maybe we can do that for a while and just to get information about how that guy analyzes the market and does it, but if it's for us to do forever, we're not going to grow in knowledge about trading itself.
So in conclusion, it's better to trade alone from the results of your own analysis, because gradually we will understand and understand better, of course. Even if you have to pay, it's better to pay someone who is an expert in that field and learn directly without any frills following him starting his entry with the lure of profit.

Some people said things were right that it isnt really that bad to look into others strategies which you could possibly apply into your own trades but its not really that something good for you to rely or dependent on it and make it sure that you would stand on your own on different various conditions or situations.Its not really that good on paying up someone just for you to follow and thinking up logically and on a common sense way that if they are making money truly then they wont really be looking for those people who would follow them but instead they would trade on their own and make tons of money since they are capable on doing so.It is really just that there are people who do really believe that easy money or profit taking does exist but on the time that they are able to experience then these impressions would changed up.

traders who use copy trading I sure don't think about it. they know how to trade and do some technical analysis for trading. but what they want most is profit without doing anything. it makes them earn instant profits from the trades they participate in. even though I don't like this method, in practice, many novice traders do it.

That’s the risky business right there. Trying to make money without really doing anything is a big risk and should be avoided at all costs. I know that it’s not going to be easy for them to do it, and I know that it will be hard to learn how to trade but they need to stop what they are doing and start studying day and night to become a better trader by learning how all others trade.

That way if they learn about fundamental and technical analysis, they could check the charts themselves and make good profit, or even if they fail to make good profit at times, they will at least would have the means to recover from any loss. Which is the best way to make money in the crypto world.

Copy trading is unlike Ponzi schemes, where you are not doing anything. It is still trading, but you are copying someone else's trades. For example, if the trader you copied purchased a bitcoin at a specific price, that will also happen to your account; if he profits, you will also profit. That is why most newbies tend to go here since they have capital and just want to trade easily.

I haven't tried copy trading, but I have attempted it before. There are tons of fees once you copy a trade, which is why I did not pursue it. Also, just because you copy a professional trader doesn't mean you won't lose; he will still make mistakes, so you will still lose, but most of the feedback I've seen indicates that in the long run, you can really profit from it.

I have been about to do copy-trading, but it does not seem reliable to me, because each operator who places his operations, for me it would be great if he put the reasons why he places those signals, we did not know if all they give is to luck or because they invent them, if we pay for a service we should at least know the reasons why they make those signals, it is the most logical thing that I see for some cases, of course this is what I think and ´I know that they do that on no platform So I think that is a flaw that we as consumers have always had, because if we see the why of things we can choose the best trader who does or offers the service.

I'd see it was impossible for them to explain to you in detail. I don't know if that still be their responsibility or if it was us to explore and discover how this has been made. It really makes us upset but as many people say following signals from other don't give us benefit. That is why we should have to work hard and make our own market analysis. There is nothing wrong with copy-trading but this never leaves that way forever, we should also have to create our own strategies if we wanted to grow and earn more.
Signal services are useless...

Some have their channels or group chats where they will explain why they took the trade or what condition triggered them to take that trade. However, still, it is very best if you have your strategy or not depending on those people since if you lose, you can't blame them, and at the same time, you are paying them to take a trade as most others said, you don't have control over your money in copy trading. You are just watching it and seeing it losing. Nothing is wrong with it, but being lazy and not learning to trade is not good, and it will not last in the long run.

Basically no one can predict market movements accurately even by professional traders who already have sufficient experience and knowledge about trading and they certainly don't guarantee that following their trading signals can always give us profit because sometimes cryptocurrency market price movements don't always move according as we expect, if you really want to trade then my advice is that you should do your own analysis of the coins you want to buy and don't have to pay for trading signals from other people.

As a trader and you do seem yourself to be that have means of doing ethical then you cant really be that too confident in regards with your trading stats which you wont really be that too confident when we do speak about on letting others do follow your trades.

Paying up a person for you to follow up trades is never been worth.they are just also speculators like us, although they do have that experience but doesnt mean that
they would be assuring profitability.

Nothing beats out if you do trade on your own and would really be that tending to learn out of your mistakes which i could say that it would really be much better that way.