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Title: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: brandonlang on October 12, 2022, 07:26:49 PM
Proofs:

Lighting roulette history
https://ibb.co/pZXC5Sn
Betnomi history
https://ibb.co/VtJvqZW
Withdrawal scam
https://ibb.co/G74ZCm6


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: hosseinimr93 on October 12, 2022, 08:03:15 PM
Did you contact their support?
There should be a reason for rejecting your withdrawal request.

Another question:
It's not the first time you've accused betnomi of scamming you. Why did you continue to bet on their casino, if you believe they are scammers?
Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389092)


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: Taskford on October 12, 2022, 08:27:48 PM
Code:
  [b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b] 

Follow that format to place proper scam report and check this thread for getting ideas on how to do it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0



Another question:
It's not the first time you've accused betnomi of scamming you. Why did you continue to bet on their casino, if you believe they are scammers?
Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389092)

That's what makes this more strange because a normal person will not continue to bet on a casino where he accused for scamming. Maybe he just do this for some personal reasons and another maybe he just a butthurt because he lost a lot of money playing on that casino then this is just a part of revenge. Anyways OP should contact their support to get more serious answer for his claims.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: hosseinimr93 on October 13, 2022, 06:27:59 AM
So as in revenge i create an email and told a friend to create account in this place to continue making money in this place. Hope this clarify your question
So, the assumption made by Taskford above was correct.
I am not sure, but maybe betnomi don't believe that the new account has been created by your friend and that's why they don't allow you to make a withdrawal.
You didn't tell us whether you have contacted their support or not. They should tell you what's causing the issue.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: brandonlang on October 13, 2022, 07:52:28 AM
So as in revenge i create an email and told a friend to create account in this place to continue making money in this place. Hope this clarify your question
So, the assumption made by Taskford above was correct.
I am not sure, but maybe betnomi don't believe that the new account has been created by your friend and that's why they don't allow to you make a withdrawal.
You didn't tell us whether you have contacted their support or not. They should tell you what's causing the issue.


Yes I obviously contacted support and have no answer. I won in live roulette, i didnt cheat anything


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: Awaklara on October 13, 2022, 10:24:17 AM
Yes I obviously contacted support and have no answer. I won in live roulette, i didnt cheat anything

maybe the Casino saw something strange with your second account. it has something to do with your first account having the problem.
I don't know what's your problem with Betnomi. Since you've had problems before, it doesn't make much sense to me if you create a new account and deposit your money at a casino you don't trust.

revenge or whatever, I think there's something you're breaking from the casino rules. however, Betnomi representatives must explain why. I think you should also send a PM.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: brandonlang on October 13, 2022, 11:32:17 AM
Yes I obviously contacted support and have no answer. I won in live roulette, i didnt cheat anything

maybe the Casino saw something strange with your second account. it has something to do with your first account having the problem.
I don't know what's your problem with Betnomi. Since you've had problems before, it doesn't make much sense to me if you create a new account and deposit your money at a casino you don't trust.

revenge or whatever, I think there's something you're breaking from the casino rules. however, Betnomi representatives must explain why. I think you should also send a PM.


I won in live roulette. There is no cheat. They accept my deposit and my bet. If they dont pay it is because they are scammers


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: Beparanf on October 13, 2022, 11:40:09 AM
Yes I obviously contacted support and have no answer. I won in live roulette, i didnt cheat anything

maybe the Casino saw something strange with your second account. it has something to do with your first account having the problem.
I don't know what's your problem with Betnomi. Since you've had problems before, it doesn't make much sense to me if you create a new account and deposit your money at a casino you don't trust.

revenge or whatever, I think there's something you're breaking from the casino rules. however, Betnomi representatives must explain why. I think you should also send a PM.


I won in live roulette. There is no cheat. They accept my deposit and my bet. If they dont pay it is because they are scammers

Doing this will just make your case strong. You admit that you used your friend email to create account and you admit that you are the one controlling it on your above which is sufficient for a violation of there multiple account rules. This is a very terrible action.

I agree that there’s no cheat on betting on lightning roulette because it’s a live game but you might violate some terms of the casino before you win this huge profit and they use it to you against your fund. Anyway you already admitted multiple account here so I’m convinced that you violate betnomi terms.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: coin-investor on October 13, 2022, 01:24:50 PM
Yes I obviously contacted support and have no answer. I won in live roulette, i didnt cheat anything

maybe the Casino saw something strange with your second account. it has something to do with your first account having the problem.
I don't know what's your problem with Betnomi. Since you've had problems before, it doesn't make much sense to me if you create a new account and deposit your money at a casino you don't trust.

revenge or whatever, I think there's something you're breaking from the casino rules. however, Betnomi representatives must explain why. I think you should also send a PM.


I won in live roulette. There is no cheat. They accept my deposit and my bet. If they dont pay it is because they are scammers

Doing this will just make your case strong. You admit that you used your friend email to create account and you admit that you are the one controlling it on your above which is sufficient for a violation of there multiple account rules. This is a very terrible action.

I agree that there’s no cheat on betting on lightning roulette because it’s a live game but you might violate some terms of the casino before you win this huge profit and they use it to you against your fund. Anyway you already admitted multiple account here so I’m convinced that you violate betnomi terms.

Once you broke the casino terms of service you disable your privilege even if you won, we have seen a lot of complaints of people having a hard time withdrawing because they blatantly broke the rules, some players are lucky to have their deposit returned but in OP's case, he intentionally broke the casino's terms and rules, he did not cheat in the game but he cheated by violating their terms and in their terms casinos clearly state that they are going to ban you and confiscate your winnings, OP should have learned that in the first violation.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: brandonlang on October 13, 2022, 02:26:17 PM
I didnt create another account. I create an email and give him to a friend to make account. Its his account. Not mine.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: hosseinimr93 on October 13, 2022, 02:35:23 PM
I didnt create another account. I create an email and give him to a friend to make account. Its his account. Not mine.
Didn't you login to the new account (the one created by your friend) with your own IP address?
I don't know how their system exactly works, but they probably have some tools for detecting multiple accounts. Casinos usually detects multiple accounts easily even if you try to hide the truth.
You broke their rules. Although the account had been created by your friend, you were the real owner of that. Wasn't you?


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: Beparanf on October 13, 2022, 02:41:44 PM
I didnt create another account. I create an email and give him to a friend to make account. Its his account. Not mine.

You are the one using it by confirming it on this thread. The account is not submitted KYC which means the owner of the account is not determined. You can use email of random person but the ownership will still be yours if you are one using it to gamble with your own money. Probably you login that account to your device that you used on your other account that has an issue before which is the reason on how they traced your account.

KYC is important on this situation especially on proving the ownership of the account.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: brandonlang on October 13, 2022, 06:54:03 PM
I didnt create another account. I create an email and give him to a friend to make account. Its his account. Not mine.

You are the one using it by confirming it on this thread. The account is not submitted KYC which means the owner of the account is not determined. You can use email of random person but the ownership will still be yours if you are one using it to gamble with your own money. Probably you login that account to your device that you used on your other account that has an issue before which is the reason on how they traced your account.

KYC is important on this situation especially on proving the ownership of the account.


Have you ever been with a friend , his phone battery die , and you let him yours to log in forexample bet365 so he can place a bet?


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 13, 2022, 07:25:12 PM
I didnt create another account. I create an email and give him to a friend to make account. Its his account. Not mine.
Wait, forgive me but I am trying to understand you here, you created the email address, and gave the email address to your friend to create a Betnomi account with, then if after your friend created the account, and you are the one using the account, it means it's your account.
How can you have the login details to an account, even deposited money and gambled on the account, and now claim the account is not yours...
Then maybe you should ask the real owner of the account in question to lodge this accusation instead of you doing it.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: brandonlang on October 13, 2022, 09:11:42 PM
I didnt create another account. I create an email and give him to a friend to make account. Its his account. Not mine.
Wait, forgive me but I am trying to understand you here, you created the email address, and gave the email address to your friend to create a Betnomi account with, then if after your friend created the account, and you are the one using the account, it means it's your account.
How can you have the login details to an account, even deposited money and gambled on the account, and now claim the account is not yours...
Then maybe you should ask the real owner of the account in question to lodge this accusation instead of you doing it.


It is his account. He is not into betting or crypto. He told me he had no problem in create account but we go 70-30 in profits and i accepted. I could have bet 600$ into roulette with any account , this multiaccount shit is just an excuse to not pay. That his account in logged in my phone doesnt mean it is mine


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: Awaklara on October 14, 2022, 02:15:20 AM
Yes I obviously contacted support and have no answer. I won in live roulette, i didnt cheat anything
if you look at your words. I'm sure it's not your friend's account. but you run and bet with the new account.
instead of using your friend's excuse. I'm not sure Casino will believe your reasoning.
what is clear, the two accounts that you and your friends use be detected by the casino.
your win is not wrong, but it looks like you broke the casino rules. it gets your funds frozen.

From all of your explanations, it's already known the fault of your case and your friend's.
I don't know if is there a possibility that the casino will refund your deposit or not. In some cases, casinos are lenient by returning deposits and suspending accounts. but in more complicated cases. Of course, the casino has other considerations.


Title: Re: I won 27ltc on lighting roulette and betnomi doesnt allow to withdraw
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on October 14, 2022, 08:09:50 AM
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Hello. Time ago this people scam me a champions league bet if remember well After this they limit my maxbet to 0. So as in revenge i create an email and told a friend to create account in this place to continue making money in this place. Hope this clarify your question
What could be a better reason than this for betnomi not to pay you? Now the case is closed and you move on. Please lock the thread.

I don't know if is there a possibility that the casino will refund your deposit or not.
They should not return any money at all not only the money that was deposited to the new account. OP needs to learn a lesson.