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Title: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Sarah Azhari on October 13, 2022, 03:32:34 AM

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What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

I ask the question because curious many gambling sites operated in "that country" look to exist and are very developed with a big profit of billion of dollars.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on October 13, 2022, 03:56:47 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if in many cases these sites can be accessed from countries where gambling is prohibited without vpn or anything else. Obviously, if you are in a country where gambling is forbidden, you'd better use vpn.

But I say this because in Europe you can access many cryptocurrency casinos that theoretically could not operate. Only in some cases the site is blocked and you get a message saying that the site does not have a license to operate in the country, or something like that.

Although I hope that this will change over the years and just as all, or practically all, fiat sites that cannot operate legally in the country because they do not have a specific licence are blocked, I am afraid that this will become generalised with crypto gambling sites.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: EarnOnVictor on October 13, 2022, 04:09:04 AM
First, I like to advise people that they should not engage in illegalities, what the authorities in your country do not permit is what you should avoid. The worst is to relocate if they are disturbing your happiness and freedom. This is important, especially for the future, who knows if any circumstances would cause the government to dig deep into the person's financial transactions, which might invite further trouble if laws are broken?

That said, some countries would partially ban gambling, so you could still have some access, while the government will look away in most cases. Government officials could however be bribed or not bribed in the case of a partial banning, it does not matter, yet some gambling associations incentivised government officials to keep it that way.

Nonetheless, in case it is totally banned, then all gambling sites known by the government would be blocked. You will need to rely on a VPN to access them. Just be careful not to be caught in that kind of illegality, the penalty might be severe in some countries.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: makishart on October 13, 2022, 04:49:23 AM
I think that the developers didn't even need to do that since the users will be searching for the way to bypass the block. I know some countries that blocking gambling sites but mostly of users were using VPN to bypass it.
There's no need a special attention from the developers about this case. The government will not trace your daily activities everyday lol. I think that is not a serious problem since even an easy solution like VPN has been solving everything related to this problem.
You must aware about that too. The gambling developers were also creating alternatives domain to by pass the block too.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Vaskiy on October 13, 2022, 05:01:28 AM
Different countries have their own regulations. Few of the gambling sites with cryptocurrency acceptance have provided mirror links through which users from specific countries can have access. Those sites take necessary measures if something is found wrong making use of VPN and other services to bypass the block.

These days everything is well advanced and this lets people find an alternate way when there is access termination. I don't think these gambling platforms have made connection with the officials and police to continue their services.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on October 13, 2022, 05:47:25 AM
What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?
I think it actually depends, as different countries has different gambling rules for its citizens, whereas, some casinos has its own blacklisted regions for reasons best known to them alone, while some casinos allow the use of VPN, whereas others don't. So if you live in a country where gambling is not allow, then i think the best solution is to search for general casinos which allows the use of vpn, as this may be kind of risky sometimes if you happens to open an account with the wrong casino which could lead to frozen of fund or termination of accont. So it's advisable to kindly DYOR.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Saisher on October 13, 2022, 07:25:59 AM

What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

I ask the question because curious many gambling sites operated in "that country" look to exist and are very developed with a big profit of billion of dollars.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.


I don't think they need to resort to bribing officials they prefer to be compliant for the security of the existence of their project than resort to bribing and they resort to banning countries than letting countries where online gambling is illegal as they don't want to be reported to their service provider, casinos to continue to exist should be compliant to existing law, all their efforts and money spent will be wasted if they did not do the right, they prefer to ban countries than put their casino in trouble.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Kakmakr on October 13, 2022, 07:40:41 AM
The reason why most countries are banning online casinos are "money" .....because those online casinos are not paying taxes on the money that are spend on there by their citizens. (That is money that are going out of the country and it circumvents currency controls by these governments)  ::)

Yes, some countries ban "gambling" due to religious reasons, but most countries does that because they are losing out on "taxes" and "license" fees that must be paid to them. (Some "Brick n mortar" casinos have to bribe decision makers in government to get a license)


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Xxmodded on October 13, 2022, 08:46:16 AM
The reason why most countries are banning online casinos are "money" .....because those online casinos are not paying taxes on the money that are spend on there by their citizens. (That is money that are going out of the country and it circumvents currency controls by these governments)  ::)

Yes, some countries ban "gambling" due to religious reasons, but most countries does that because they are losing out on "taxes" and "license" fees that must be paid to them. (Some "Brick n mortar" casinos have to bribe decision makers in government to get a license)
Not paying taxes not only with casino gambling online restrict in my country but also Binance as top global exchange market not allowed to access without used VPN. Problem faced by OP almost the same with member using Binance exchange market, I use another way by access casino and Binance trough modify DNS setting. You can check your chrome browser and changed with DNS browser with cloudflare and you can find on google which one IP can adopted.

I don't think this way the same like using VPN or not, but using VPN is violate from all casino gambling term of service, I don't recommended when your country banned access to casino gambling to use VPN because sometime your account will banned.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 13, 2022, 10:26:05 AM
Instead of expanding their market in countries that do not allow gambling, casinos should focus their services on existing members because that might cause problems for the casino later. We know that states that do not allow gambling are very strict when it comes to gambling and will never allow their citizens to gamble unless there are corrupt officials.

Maybe because of the corrupt officers, the gambling site could survive because they had deposited "security money" with the officers to continue running their business safely. But if the corrupt officers are arrested, their businesses can be shut down by clean and honest officers.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: aioc on October 13, 2022, 11:24:01 AM
Physical casinos can bribe the authorities because of the limited market but online casinos should not, online casinos don't have to do that they have countries that allow gambling as their potentials market if they bribe specific countries they get a bad mark from the gambling community, let those countries that don't allow gambling to restrict their people they have a larger market to target, not just a few countries that can imperil their reputation in the gambling community.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: NeuroticFish on October 13, 2022, 11:50:41 AM
Physical casinos can bribe the authorities because of the limited market but online casinos should not

Actually nobody should bribe authorities, no matter what, isn't it? Because if they do, then the law is not the same for everybody, then unfair competition can easily happen.
Still, .. most probably some do.

Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

VPN is a double edged sword. A casino can easily turn a blind eye to VPNs, but in case of the smallest suspicion that something is wrong, KYC is asked and, since the user is not from an allowed country, he may get banned and the funds frozen/taken away. And the casinos have to do this because law enforcement can also try out their vigilance.


So my take for the situation in "that country" is to consider electing better politicians next time.

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Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Wexnident on October 13, 2022, 12:19:38 PM
What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?
I don't think they do. I think it'd be a lot better to expand their influence in places they already have a stable player base instead of spreading their influence in countries being tightly guarded, especially since it might cause some issues. I also don't think VPN is an option, afaik some casinos don't allow it and even if they do, you'd still be hit by KYC so if you state a fake country at registration then well, you've basically ruined your account. And if there ever was a trick to be used, it's probably called money.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.

I think that would work for physical casinos but rarely online? Most stuff online leaves a track after all that can't exactly be erased permanently and can easily lead to them being caught if investigated. Not that I really know much about it though, just giving what I think.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Daltonik on October 13, 2022, 12:22:08 PM

What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

I ask the question because curious many gambling sites operated in "that country" look to exist and are very developed with a big profit of billion of dollars.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.


For reliable and trusted online casinos, reputation can be more expensive than profit, so of course you can use a VPN, but exactly until the moment when you are asked for KYC and there may be an unsolvable problem that can lead to blocking your account and it's good if you manage to withdraw funds.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: piebeyb on October 13, 2022, 12:36:08 PM
in my country since the arrest of a police official where it was rumored that he received funds from online gambling sites and casinos it almost made several gambling sites closed and inaccessible considering the arrest of the owner of the online gambling site, many raids were carried out everywhere so as to make the site owner gambling isn't really safe and escaping to a safer country, but some gambling sites allow their users to use a vpn


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: swogerino on October 13, 2022, 12:40:47 PM
Physical casinos can bribe the authorities because of the limited market but online casinos should not, online casinos don't have to do that they have countries that allow gambling as their potentials market if they bribe specific countries they get a bad mark from the gambling community, let those countries that don't allow gambling to restrict their people they have a larger market to target, not just a few countries that can imperil their reputation in the gambling community.

Those countries first of all are few compared to countries that allow gambling and only based on that there is no need to bribe anyone.In Europe where I am located I can access many of the reputable casinos and most of them have a license to operate in a market which I call gambler's friendly as we are huge gamblers in Europe in almost every single country.

I know that many people use VPN-s although they are doing so at their own risk because if caught most casinos won't let them as it is against their terms and services and as such VPN is not a recommended solution.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Apocollapse on October 13, 2022, 12:43:05 PM
I don't think there's a casinos will allow a gambler who came from a country where gambling is illegal since if they're a licensed casino, they must have been restrict those countries. But if your country are allow gambling and you just can't access it due to internet provider, usually the solution is you're access with VPN and you need to submit your KYC.

If there's a fiat casino who can operated in illegal country, they will get jailed since they're breaking the laws.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: samuraijin on October 13, 2022, 01:25:18 PM
There are many ways for them to be able to open a gambling site in their country, because in Asian countries there are several countries that prohibit it, some have legalized it such as Cambodia, in that country it is very free to play Slot gambling which previously operated in Indonesia, and there are several cases that ended up  Slot gambling sites were frozen by state officials, because they certainly did not have a permit or indeed there were regulations in terms of prohibiting them, then this would make it difficult for all gambling enthusiasts in foreign countries.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Ararbermas on October 13, 2022, 01:35:13 PM
actually vpn is very common since then when gambling became prohibited in other countries, so i wouldn't be surprised if it still the main reason upto now and no other tricks.  Indeed ever since before i never heard another bypass that exist for online gambling especially to change ip address in order to hide there real location.. If there's one maybe i didn't encounter it around the internet when the times i was looking for bypass as well and not yet interested on using vpn.. Lol


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: fortunecrypto on October 13, 2022, 02:00:09 PM



What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

I ask the question because curious many gambling sites operated in "that country" look to exist and are very developed with a big profit of billion of dollars.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.


If these countries do not allow gambling in those countries how are these casinos going to profit billions of dollars, when there are a limited number of people that are going to use their casinos, its better for casinos to concentrate on countries that allow gambling and be competitive and target to get a lion share of the market where gambling is legal in many countries, bribing will only cause problems you don't want to read your favorite casinos getting involved in gambling, their reputation will be in peril


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: panjul07 on October 13, 2022, 03:01:10 PM
What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

Allowing users to use VPN is one of the possible ways to deal with the ban by government, the other possible way is by providing mirror link like what Stake does.
If you are familiar with Indonesian local gambling sites, you should have known that most Indonesian local gambling sites provide special link(s) to their players so they can bypass the ban/block.
I think these 2 ways are the most common thing which is used by online casinos that operate in a country where gambling is something prohibited.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: ralle14 on October 13, 2022, 03:47:03 PM
What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?
Being less strict with VPN is the most common way i've seen even though most casinos have rules against VPN there are still a few casinos that doesn't freeze your account (https://bitedge.com/blog/crypto-gambling-from-the-united-states-of-america/)(it's a blog post about casinos and VPN). If there are still casinos in your country knowing that's illegal then that could be one of the reasons since there are always people willing to let it slip through as long as they're given money. Aside from mirrors, there are also casinos that create another casino that's made for a specific country similar to how stake has its separate casino for their USA players.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Google+ on October 13, 2022, 04:24:46 PM
There are several criteria that the local government does to block gambling sites in their country, the first is that it is against the religious norms they profess and that is the main point. However, the large number of people in the country who play gambling is not an obstacle for them because gamblers can access it by only relying on a VPN and this has become one of the tricks to break through sites that are blocked by the government. And what @kakmakr said is true because every money flowing out of the country must be prevented if the company does not pay taxes for the country.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Cling18 on October 13, 2022, 04:38:03 PM
What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

Allowing users to use VPN is one of the possible ways to deal with the ban by the government, the other possible way is by providing mirror links like what Stake does.
If you are familiar with Indonesian local gambling sites, you should have known that most Indonesian local gambling sites provide a special link(s) to their players so they can bypass the ban/block.
I think these 2 ways are the most common thing which is used by online casinos that operate in a country where gambling is something prohibited.


Using VPN is the most common way to pursue gambling despite the restrictions and gambling blocking in a country. However, some reputable casino sites don't allow it. As for me, it will be better to follow the government rather than break the law. It will be better to avoid illegalities, especially if pursuing gambling has consequences in a country. There are still other ways for us to gamble but we should avoid what the government disallows.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Queentoshi on October 13, 2022, 05:01:34 PM
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?
This is possible, they can keep allowing users access their websites with VPN and turn a blind eye to it, so their profit is not significantly affected.

they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating,
This can also be true, only someone who works in one of these Gambling sites or well affiliated with them will be able to tell you the method they use, because I also think that different gambling sites may have their own own methods.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: virasisog on October 13, 2022, 05:31:57 PM
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?
This is possible, they can keep allowing users access their websites with VPN and turn a blind eye to it, so their profit is not significantly affected.

they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating,
This can also be true, only someone who works in one of these Gambling sites or well affiliated with them will be able to tell you the method they use, because I also think that different gambling sites may have their methods.

Casino sites will still allow using VPNs at some point so gamblers from countries that ban and restrict gambling will still be able to play which I think is beneficial for both parties. In our country, the government can't ban casinos because it's their main source of taxes and they're able to collect huge funds from them. The government will always take advantage of good tax resources so they will surely keep and allow it to operate continuously.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: dimonstration on October 13, 2022, 05:36:39 PM
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?
This is possible, they can keep allowing users access their websites with VPN and turn a blind eye to it, so their profit is not significantly affected.

they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating,
This can also be true, only someone who works in one of these Gambling sites or well affiliated with them will be able to tell you the method they use, because I also think that different gambling sites may have their methods.

Casino sites will still allow using VPNs at some point so gamblers from countries that ban and restrict gambling will still be able to play which I think is beneficial for both parties. In our country, the government can't ban casinos because it's their main source of taxes and they're able to collect huge funds from them. The government will always take advantage of good tax resources so they will surely keep and allow it to operate continuously.

Most reputable casino doesn't allowed the use of VPN in able to allowed user from restricted country. It's not solely about the government of that country but there concern was there license provider that forbids them on doing so since government will have a hard time to detect there citizen accessing gambling using VPN but there license provider can audit there casino and might see that they are allowing restricted user that will result to jeopardising there license to operate legally.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: uneng on October 13, 2022, 05:46:27 PM
I think there isn't any strategy. If a country forbids gambling in general or specific gambling websites, there is nothing they can do to bypass the ban.

Some users may try to use VPN, but it is not advised in any cases, because it can be used as excuse by casinos to block an account or deny a withdrawal. If it happens, the gambler has to accept his fate because he was playing from a forbidden country and using a tool to mask his location.

About bribery I'm not sure if online casinos really have to use this kind of approach, since they have the whole world as potential customers and don't need to focus on specific areas and regions to make their businesses successful.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: dothebeats on October 13, 2022, 06:17:00 PM
It is tricky to evade blocks from gambling websites. You will always have this feeling that your account will be banned if you ever turn your balance to a profit and you will not have any control over that nor have any say against it because you are from a restricted country. So, the best thing to do is to not game the system and try to bypass restrictions. Fill your gambling thirst somewhere wherein you can safely play and that's just it.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: goldkingcoiner on October 13, 2022, 06:29:14 PM

What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

I ask the question because curious many gambling sites operated in "that country" look to exist and are very developed with a big profit of billion of dollars.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.


Gambling developers will have enough work with or without providing their development services to shady gambling businesses that operate in grey zones or illegal zones. As far as the question of VPNs go, I think that gambling casinos do not actually care about who uses a VPN and who does not as long as there is nobody winning absurd sums of money or acting suspiciously. In which case they can ask for a KYC and if you do not do it then they can freeze both your account and your funds.

How far people go to make money in illegal environments is really left up to the individual person. But I think everyone is well aware of the risks.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: jossiel on October 13, 2022, 06:52:16 PM
Your image vague and better be removed.

What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

I ask the question because curious many gambling sites operated in "that country" look to exist and are very developed with a big profit of billion of dollars.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.
You've just answered your question. If an online casino isn't allowed to a country that you're asking then that's for sure that users from that location are using VPN.

Some casinos allow it and many that don't.

As long as the use of VPN is just for accessing it then there's no issue to that casino as long as they are allowing it.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: msbeby on October 13, 2022, 08:29:35 PM

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What strategy do gambling developers to expand their market to countries which do not allow any type of gambling?
Do they continue with allowing users to use VPN, or do they have "some trick"?

I ask the question because curious many gambling sites operated in "that country" look to exist and are very developed with a big profit of billion of dollars.

I don't know exactly, I had a bad thing on my mind, they are bribing government officials and Police in order to keep operating, This is my assumption only, maybe you are here and can tell the truth.


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Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Zackgeno96 on October 13, 2022, 08:46:51 PM
There are still some snags to what is illegal to gamble. For example, there are countries where gambling is legal, but you can only gamble in betting shops on the street and in the city, and not online. That is quite different from countries where a total gambling ban has been introduced. The strange thing about those countries is that you can visit all gambling sites from that country and that there is no blockage at all. As a player living in a country where you are not allowed to gamble, you are in a difficult dilemma. You could circumvent the rules with a VPN, but what will you do if there is a KYC? And it is only a matter of time before that comes. you would then only be able to play on crypto gambling sites.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: ryzaadit on October 13, 2022, 08:49:31 PM
No, there is nothing they can't do.

It's restricted by the regulation. The regulation need to be change, and everyone who share VPN is wrong (If you're on restricted using the service for casino). Because once you done that, you're gonna to get a trouble some day.

And some nasty casino, is using these reason in some case.


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: minime0105 on October 13, 2022, 08:57:53 PM
Some countries does not allow gambling game in their country because they do see gambling as a corruption in the business I'm seeing right now, those countries that reject gambling are the same countries do reject cryptocurrency, but i have seen a country that do accept gambling but they regulate gambling because of the abuse of gambling by children, so i believe that gambling is not meant for children, and it's for entrainment industry


Title: Re: Gambling Sites in the Country doest allowed
Post by: Issa56 on October 13, 2022, 09:26:33 PM
Am not really sure but I think countries that are banning gambling as illegal, the users will definitely look for a way to bypass that which I think the best way to bypass that is by using VPN. Let me use my country as example, actually this is not about gambling but it's still the same. Twitter was ban in Nigeria last year, nobody from Nigeria can access Twitter, but people ended up bypassing the ban by using VPN to access Twitter whenever they want to use it, which I believe that's what people that gambling is ban in their country will definitely be doing, but I think most gambling sites always discourage the use of VPN to access their site.