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Title: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: summer8 on October 15, 2022, 06:00:00 AM
Miner Price Tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools


What is MinerList?
MinerList is a miner profitability and tools site.

Track prices of miners from major resellers and official brands and get alerted when they fall below a certain level.

Check it out here:
https://www.minerlist.com (https://www.minerlist.com)

MinerList Realistic Altcoin Profitability Calculators

I was looking for more realistic ways to calculate Altcoin profitabilities, similar to the Braiins calculator and SmokingHopium.io (these calculators doesn't just spit out a yearly number based on today's profit, but lets you add all types of variables, including difficulty and price change over time).

I didn't find anything so I created a few altcoin calculators myself. Some examples:

https://www.minerlist.com/coin/kadena/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/kadena/calculator)
https://www.minerlist.com/coin/ethereum-classic/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/ethereum-classic/calculator)
https://www.minerlist.com/coin/zcash/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/zcash/calculator)

All Feedback is greatly appreciated!


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: Plaguedeath on October 15, 2022, 03:21:15 PM
Hey thanks for this,

I think this mining calculator are much more accurate than most of mining calculator out there, what I like is the site are automatically input the difficulty, block reward, and difficulty change with the latest updated data. This would make the mining calculator can calculate the latest profitability with the latest data.

I think the site is lack of coin/token can be mined since it's still less than 100 and the mining hardware is still not all listed yet.


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: grendel25 on October 16, 2022, 06:17:51 AM
Miner Price Tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools



What is MinerList?
MinerList is a miner profitability and tools site.

Track prices of miners from major resellers and official brands and get alerted when they fall below a certain level.

Check it out here:
https://www.minerlist.com (https://www.minerlist.com)

Altcoin Profitability Calculators

I was looking for ways to project profitabilities like the Braiins calculator, but for altcoins. I didn't find anything so I created a few altcoin calculators myself:

https://www.minerlist.com/coin/kadena/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/kadena/calculator)
https://www.minerlist.com/coin/ethereum-classic/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/ethereum-classic/calculator)
https://www.minerlist.com/coin/zcash/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/zcash/calculator)

Hi,

Can you add EPIC? It is mineable mainly by CPU and GPU (ASIC too  but not really worth it)

It might take some extra or different configuration in making a calculator because of how it works. But it's easy enough for me to calculate on a basic calculator so should be doable.  You would need to configure at least 2 calculations. One for CPU and one for GPU. You could do ASIC as well and for that just change the .48 multiplier to .04.

I just typically do:  my hr / network hr * 1440 *.48 *block reward of 3.778 to find what should be my daily coin rewards

Here's a description of how EPIC Polyphasic PoW works:

From the technical whitepaper describing Freeman deterministic polyphasic proof of work mining model:

"... We call this process "feijoada", after the traditional bean dish which all Brazillians, ourselves included, eat practically daily. The Feijoada procedure results in a deterministic sequence of ciphers, allowing consensus to be maintained easily. It also allows the policy to be reset every 100 blocks, which should be around 100 minutes given our target emission rate of one block per minute..."

Put another way, it's like a randomized round-robin distribution of blocks per mining Algorithm so that every 100 blocks 48 go to CPU, 48 to GPU, and 4 to ASIC.  It could go in sequence of CPU, CPU, GPU, GPU, ASIC... CPU, GPU, ASIC, CPU, GPU or any sequence but the amount will ultimately add up to an allocation of 48/48/4 CPU/GPU/ASIC until the Community DAO governance decides it should be changed.  In the previous era, the allocation was 60/38/2 CPU/GPU/ASIC.

In other words, the mining algorithms 'take turns' throughout the epochs. There are software programs like SRBminer and ttminer that allows your hardware to mine other coins while not on EPIC


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: FP91G on October 16, 2022, 09:51:30 AM
Bookmarked your site, very informative.
But there are profit differences with other asic profit sites
https://www.asicminervalue.com/


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: joniboini on October 16, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Does your website not support showing a hash rate below 1 H/s? I checked GRIN profitability on other websites and it seems like there is quite a huge difference between your data and theirs. I assume your code round the hash rate up, or it can't show any lower than 1 H/s, but then your 2080 TI is ok, while the rest is not. Maybe you should double-check it since most GPUs don't reach 1 H/s even at max TBP according to other sources.


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: Crypt0Gore on October 16, 2022, 02:25:06 PM
I just checked the website out right now and it looks accurate, assuming a miner is more profitable than the other tomorrow is the website going to automatically update itself? I've only seen this with Nicehash before, thanks for sharing I will bookmark right away.


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: summer8 on October 17, 2022, 03:47:35 AM
Hey thanks for this,

I think this mining calculator are much more accurate than most of mining calculator out there, what I like is the site are automatically input the difficulty, block reward, and difficulty change with the latest updated data. This would make the mining calculator can calculate the latest profitability with the latest data.

I think the site is lack of coin/token can be mined since it's still less than 100 and the mining hardware is still not all listed yet.

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm working on adding a bunch of coins and the remaining miners!


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: summer8 on October 17, 2022, 06:39:11 AM
Miner Price Tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools



What is MinerList?
MinerList is a miner profitability and tools site.

Track prices of miners from major resellers and official brands and get alerted when they fall below a certain level.

Check it out here:
https://www.minerlist.com (https://www.minerlist.com)

Altcoin Profitability Calculators

I was looking for ways to project profitabilities like the Braiins calculator, but for altcoins. I didn't find anything so I created a few altcoin calculators myself:

https://www.minerlist.com/coin/kadena/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/kadena/calculator)
https://www.minerlist.com/coin/ethereum-classic/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/ethereum-classic/calculator)
https://www.minerlist.com/coin/zcash/calculator
 (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/zcash/calculator)

Hi,

Can you add EPIC? It is mineable mainly by CPU and GPU (ASIC too  but not really worth it)

It might take some extra or different configuration in making a calculator because of how it works. But it's easy enough for me to calculate on a basic calculator so should be doable.  You would need to configure at least 2 calculations. One for CPU and one for GPU. You could do ASIC as well and for that just change the .48 multiplier to .04.

I just typically do:  my hr / network hr * 1440 *.48 *block reward of 3.778 to find what should be my daily coin rewards

Here's a description of how EPIC Polyphasic PoW works:

From the technical whitepaper describing Freeman deterministic polyphasic proof of work mining model:

"... We call this process "feijoada", after the traditional bean dish which all Brazillians, ourselves included, eat practically daily. The Feijoada procedure results in a deterministic sequence of ciphers, allowing consensus to be maintained easily. It also allows the policy to be reset every 100 blocks, which should be around 100 minutes given our target emission rate of one block per minute..."

Put another way, it's like a randomized round-robin distribution of blocks per mining Algorithm so that every 100 blocks 48 go to CPU, 48 to GPU, and 4 to ASIC.  It could go in sequence of CPU, CPU, GPU, GPU, ASIC... CPU, GPU, ASIC, CPU, GPU or any sequence but the amount will ultimately add up to an allocation of 48/48/4 CPU/GPU/ASIC until the Community DAO governance decides it should be changed.  In the previous era, the allocation was 60/38/2 CPU/GPU/ASIC.

In other words, the mining algorithms 'take turns' throughout the epochs. There are software programs like SRBminer and ttminer that allows your hardware to mine other coins while not on EPIC

Looks like an interested project. I'll DM you


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: summer8 on October 17, 2022, 07:08:05 AM
Bookmarked your site, very informative.
But there are profit differences with other asic profit sites
https://www.asicminervalue.com/

asicminervalue.com uses 0.12c as default power cost and I use 0.08c - this could explain some of the differences!

I just checked the website out right now and it looks accurate, assuming a miner is more profitable than the other tomorrow is the website going to automatically update itself? I've only seen this with Nicehash before, thanks for sharing I will bookmark right away.

Yes, the site updates every few minutes. Thanks for the bookmark

Does your website not support showing a hash rate below 1 H/s? I checked GRIN profitability on other websites and it seems like there is quite a huge difference between your data and theirs. I assume your code round the hash rate up, or it can't show any lower than 1 H/s, but then your 2080 TI is ok, while the rest is not. Maybe you should double-check it since most GPUs don't reach 1 H/s even at max TBP according to other sources.

I believe you're right about it using 1h/s as min. Thanks for pointing that out! Will fix it shortly


Title: Re: MinerList: Miner price tracking and Advanced Coin Profitability Tools
Post by: summer8 on January 27, 2023, 06:12:24 AM
Have added the realistic Litecoin and Dogecoin calculators: both calculate the merge mining profitability so they are technically the same thing:

Configure:
  • Network difficulty for both networks
  • Month-to-month price change, difficulty change
  • Miner uptime, pool fee etc.

https://www.minerlist.com/coin/litecoin/calculator (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/litecoin/calculator)
https://www.minerlist.com/coin/dogecoin/calculator (https://www.minerlist.com/coin/dogecoin/calculator)