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Title: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Dickiy on October 21, 2022, 09:03:57 AM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: jackg on October 21, 2022, 10:13:52 AM
One of the easiest ways would be to install a committee that includes senior politicians and judges to decide if politicians should be able to act a certain way.

Here, there's no precise limit parliamentary supplements/expenses claims but local councillors are limited to only be able to claim about a third of their salary in expenses (and their salaries are comparatively low). I think it'd make more sense to limit parliamentary officials expenses but then you'd have those same people taking free trips to places instead from companies so you'd have to limit how much could be accepted in donations and then it might incentivise politicians related to big lobbying companies to take up positions in their systems which could lead to further inefficiencies - they might not have to declare donations or they might be harder to call lobbying if the lobby groups are related to politicians.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Zaguru12 on October 21, 2022, 04:46:01 PM
One of the easiest ways would be to install a committee that includes senior politicians and judges to decide if politicians should be able to act a certain way.
This method could have actually help to improve the economy of the country and also help to reduce corruption and embezzlement by the politicians but when you look at the judiciary section itself its filled with corrupt people up to the point that it's even the politicians that appoint them into offices. Imagine a judge having to bring his principal (politician) that brought him there to books when the so called politician is charged, that it a why we see cases of corruption and embezzlement by politicians are swept in the floor by the judges.

I think it'd make more sense to limit parliamentary officials expenses but then you'd have those same people taking free trips to places instead from companies.
If I have My way this is actually the first thing I will cut out from politicians. Its scary when ¼ of a countries budget goes to them as expenses but again who will actually make this law if not them and will greed allow it?


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: DVlog on October 21, 2022, 05:03:12 PM
What you are talking about is corruption which is the main problem for developing countries nowadays. Overwhelming corruption makes it difficult to achieve sustainably and cost-friendly developments. If your leader and policymakers don't have any moral values then only hardened the law won't change anything. If a child learned from a young age about increasing moral values and personality and how important it is then they will not easily fall for corruption.

Also, some people think public prosecution of punishment is inhuman but I think this could lower corruption. If govt cut the hands of corrupt officials publicly then those who watch it will surely be frightened before doing anything illegal. This won't lower the corruption rate to zero but it will help to decrease it significantly.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Findingnemo on October 21, 2022, 05:06:55 PM
Even though humans are evolved and living as a society still we are one of the fewest living species who want to survive first than others and that is also the rule of nature which is also evolved and who is having the powers making it more beneficial for themselves and there is only way to handle is to become one of them, possible but highly unlikely to make it happen by a common man. :)


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on October 21, 2022, 05:15:14 PM
I think it'd make more sense to limit parliamentary officials expenses but then you'd have those same people taking free trips to places instead from companies.
If I have My way this is actually the first thing I will cut out from politicians. Its scary when ¼ of a countries budget goes to them as expenses but again who will actually make this law if not them and will greed allow it?

There is so much imbalanced in our social and governmental structure that it's almost impossible to make changes. Most of the time one person holds so much power that no one can dare to challenge it. They just only think of themselves and every decision they make is right even that doesn't contain anything valuable for the society. Politicians should be from certain background of people who will have certain quality of skills.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Iroh on October 21, 2022, 06:55:21 PM
There would always be some selfish greedy people in government that care nothing about the people and would want to greedily enrich themselves with tax payers money.

To overcome this, the people of the country must have a system in place that checks the actions of the government. This would keep them accountable and transparent.
Oversight committees are a good way to keep the government transparent and accountable to its people.



Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Fortify on October 21, 2022, 07:32:15 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?

It is definitely more prevalent in developing countries and it tends to stem from institutions that are external to government interference. These sort of institutions can take many generations to establish and it is their longevity that makes them more powerful, but obviously they need to have transparent and fair processes too - in case they get manipulated too. Having a free press is also important, but it must also have enough independent owners that are not in with government ministers, we're seeing in countries like Hungary how seemingly democratic states can be undermined because the leader is so rich and uses the media to suppress his rivals in many different ways.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Gyfts on October 21, 2022, 07:49:13 PM
Elect politicians that support free market capitalism. It won't solve the problem entirely, but it'll help. As long as there's a central banking that works with government, even with free market capitalism it's difficult for politicians to keep an independent relationship from the banking institutions. This wouldn't be an issue with decentralized currencies, but for obvious reasons, they aren't the current protocol for any country's economy.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: livingfree on October 21, 2022, 07:51:31 PM
There's a way but sadly, it's going to be hard especially if there's an opposition which is normal for most free governments.

Those countries that have a government system that allows administrative and opposition will have hard time tackling this problem. There's always the debate for such budget cuts if one official doesn't like how it goes. But not at all times they're disagreeing with that when they see that it doesn't make sense.

Well, for the officials that sees good thing from those implementing rules and additional budgets for developments. It's not that easy to pass on if it has to be approved first in their congress or any part of governing agency.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: BIT-BENDER on October 21, 2022, 07:58:55 PM
Well this is a broad statement and to an extent does not make it accurate. I am well aware the the government a major role players in a nations economy and Governmental policies are guidelines which can improve or depress The progress of a nation.
But we have developed countries, and developing countries (more realistically and no sugarcoating it called under developed countries)

It's not correct to think under developed countries their is absence of poor policies and corruption but it's not as severe in developing countries that suffers from corrupt government that lack reasonable policies, and are largely unpatriotic. That why economical growth is more depressed in such countries even if they have sufficient human and natural resources.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: TimeTeller on October 21, 2022, 08:07:21 PM
Well this is a broad statement and to an extent does not make it accurate. I am well aware the the government a major role players in a nations economy and Governmental policies are guidelines which can improve or depress The progress of a nation.
But we have developed countries, and developing countries (more realistically and no sugarcoating it called under developed countries)

It's not correct to think under developed countries their is absence of poor policies and corruption but it's not as severe in developing countries that suffers from corrupt government that lack reasonable policies, and are largely unpatriotic. That why economical growth is more depressed in such countries even if they have sufficient human and natural resources.

Every government has their own flaws and they are not by no means perfect.
Even developed or advanced countries have their own struggles.
As an individual we can't do much about our government, but we can do something for our own selves.
We should not let ourself be dependent from government aids to progress our living.
Help ourself to uplift the status of our living, and as much as possible, don't blame the government.
They can only do so much to their people but the hard work to keep afloat in this life will still come from our own initiatives.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Raflesia on October 21, 2022, 08:09:02 PM
Even though humans are evolved and living as a society still we are one of the fewest living species who want to survive first than others and that is also the rule of nature which is also evolved and who is having the powers making it more beneficial for themselves and there is only way to handle is to become one of them, possible but highly unlikely to make it happen by a common man. :)
Because until now, even though the method may have been modern, the law of the jungle still continues because when we are strong we eat and those who are not strong it is clear that they are eaten.
This is something that is indeed the simplest that often happens, the problem is that the government is always one unit because when one of them does make a mistake, no one will be able to pay attention because they will also be affected. When the government is too greedy with power and wealth, it is certain that civilians will eat it, although in this case not all governments are like that, but on average they are like that.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: BigBos on October 21, 2022, 08:21:03 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
The fact is that there are no politicians who run the country cleanly. They need to eat and make ends meet in a way that destroys the country. not a few of them at the election promised this and that but fact, when they were elected, became a tradition for them to ignore. All countries have this political disease, we cannot avoid it, even in a country with minimal corruption, such as North Korea, there is also a system of corruption. A country's economy is said to be developing when a government has the same goals. With reduced public confidence in the rulers who act as managers of the economy, it is difficult to achieve maximum growth. In addition to the long process, the economy has been hit by the current crisis, the conclusion is that they are securing state assets and putting the interests of the people aside.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: gantez on October 21, 2022, 08:24:20 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self.


It is difficult to see the person in government that is not having some hidden self agenda in mind because we are human being but to have a good regulation and law will help to reduce the personal interest.  Laws are to be obeyed because they are the principle to lead people if selfish interest is above it, it will be like the developing countries government.




This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.


Is more in developing countries not in developed countries and the reason for that is the main difference between the two which is institutional democracy that is present in developed countries and absent with countries that is developing. The institution built around the developed countries help to check against abusing of office. In developing countries everything is around the "ruler" and his family, friends and we'll wishers that makes the public to suffer because they will only make and implement policies that will favour the few in the environment of seat of power. This is the situation that being corruption in developing countries.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Baofeng on October 21, 2022, 09:43:28 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?

Sounds very familiar as this is one reason why our country is not that progressing, - corruption. Every government official is just looking for their own interest and no one is sent to jail and punished because they have the power and influence. And even if we have a good President, if everyone under him is corrupt then there is nothing we can do. Maybe in the next election we should be careful on who the people is going to place in Congress or who will they vote for their Senators and President. At least carefully filter each and everyone because those who are going to take the seat next will be the one that will stir our country towards growth or downfall.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: romero121 on October 21, 2022, 11:25:13 PM
Every country men will be experiencing this kind of governance. This have turned to be common, in the past government formation is to serve the people. Now this have changed from serve the people to make something out of the people. When this trend change, automatically economic situation within the country will change.

Every country try to portray they're good with their economic situation and they doesn't show the poverty within the country. Making a show off isn't gonna benefit in any ways. When governments realise it, they'll make changes to the policies and the policy makers.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Hydrogen on October 21, 2022, 11:38:12 PM
What protections or hedges do we have against state injustice and corruption? For those who live in the united states which constitutional amendments were intended to protect against state abuse of power? Its surprising how many might have difficulty answering these basic questions. Even though they are basic essentials and fundamental to our culture and history.

I think to truly understand what is happening and what can be done about it. People should return to the basic principles their country was founded on and learn what they mean. Basic precepts like "innocent until proven guilty" and "state sovereignty" mean absolutely nothing to many americans. Which is a big part of circumstances deteriorating as much as they have recently.

Lacking basic knowledge makes people a prime target for exploitation and abuse. Not knowing the basics on issues usually ends with people being manipulated into supporting everything worst for them. While we can't change the hearts or minds of politicians. We can make an effort to learn and gain knowledge. To make it more difficult to be mind controlled by the media, internet influencers and other negative trends.



Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Gallar on October 22, 2022, 12:05:14 AM
In essence, a good government should at least not be corrupt.
because no matter how good the development plans and other programs are, if there is still corruption, the program will surely be destroyed.

because a serious problem in the government of my country is also corruption, if the corruptors were not in the government, surely it would make the government one step ahead to achieve success.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Die_empty on October 22, 2022, 03:47:00 AM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
The responsibility of the government is to make people-centered policies that would also attract investors in all sectors of the economy. Sadly most of these policymakers enact laws that are self-centered and anti-citizens. They have refused to cut down their salaries and other expenses even when the nation is heading toward a recession. The legislatures in my country are the highest paid, while we have the highest number of poor citizens.

They award contracts to their relatives and cronies, who shabbily execute and sometimes abandon these projects. And a nation that lacks infrastructure would never attract investors. Bribery, corruption, and double taxation have all made businesses gradually die in the country which has led to a high level of unemployment. It is well-known that unemployment would give birth to a high rate of crime and insecurity. And there can never be economic development in an unsafe environment.

Although the citizens also have some cardinal role to play in economic development, the government is the most important player. Our only tool as citizens is our vote during elections. We must ensure we give power to the most qualified candidate and issues like tribalism or political party shouldn't influence our choice of candidate.       


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Invester on October 22, 2022, 04:36:53 AM
This is about corruption which is common not only in developed and developing countries but gone uncontrolled in poor countries. Education is the key but it will take time even multiple generations to put an end to corruption or put it in the lowest form.

For hundreds of years, humans came up with many forms of government testing their effectiveness when it comes to power, economy, and populace and nothing came up perfect. Democracy came up as the nearest to perfection but it has its flaws too. But democracy in a fully educated country bound by a population enriched with deep social awareness and responsibility might work.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: xSkylarx on October 22, 2022, 09:04:50 AM
is there a way to handle it?

As long as there is a corruption in the government, economic growth on a country will be difficult to achieve. Like here in our country, there are many organizations proposing a solution to reduce imports and combat the inflation. Many of the government officials are against those solutions since they won't get any kickback from it. Local farmers are not properly subsidized and being taken advantage where their agricultural products are being bought for a very cheap price but sold expensive when it reaches the market.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Findingnemo on October 22, 2022, 09:35:21 AM
Even though humans are evolved and living as a society still we are one of the fewest living species who want to survive first than others and that is also the rule of nature which is also evolved and who is having the powers making it more beneficial for themselves and there is only way to handle is to become one of them, possible but highly unlikely to make it happen by a common man. :)
Because until now, even though the method may have been modern, the law of the jungle still continues because when we are strong we eat and those who are not strong it is clear that they are eaten.
This is something that is indeed the simplest that often happens, the problem is that the government is always one unit because when one of them does make a mistake, no one will be able to pay attention because they will also be affected. When the government is too greedy with power and wealth, it is certain that civilians will eat it, although in this case not all governments are like that, but on average they are like that.
We can point out few countries with very less corruption because the past leaders made the policies stricter and unchangeable so current people who are in the power has no choice than to follow what it has been followed by them. While in general speaking about the nature we belong to that species as I said in the previous post because we know strong one will survive.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Darker45 on October 22, 2022, 11:29:43 AM
I say it's one thing for the state to have sound economic policies and it's quite another to have them properly implemented. So, to a certain extent, it's not just about economic policies. My country is a proof of that. We have very poor policy implementation here. I'm not saying we have the best of policies, but it certainly doesn't help that policy implementers are either not serious in doing their jobs or are simply rotten to the core that they are more than willing to accept bribes in favor of certain powerful personalities or companies.

We actually have a double whammy here. We have bad policies which are crafted by a handful of clueless and assuming policymakers up in their ivory towers. We also have worse implementers whose goal is never to advance the economic welfare of the state but to acquire as much ill-gotten money as possible.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Dickiy on October 22, 2022, 01:14:35 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?

Sounds very familiar as this is one reason why our country is not that progressing, - corruption. Every government official is just looking for their own interest and no one is sent to jail and punished because they have the power and influence. And even if we have a good President, if everyone under him is corrupt then there is nothing we can do. Maybe in the next election we should be careful on who the people is going to place in Congress or who will they vote for their Senators and President. At least carefully filter each and everyone because those who are going to take the seat next will be the one that will stir our country towards growth or downfall.

what I know is corruption (budget misuse) into two, the first is to meet the needs of the personal stomach and the second group is for other developments, I mean by other developments, for example, which was for the construction of public facilities such as road access and then used for the construction of educational institutions or MSMEs whose goal is for the progress of the community in their area, even though number two cannot be justified by law, it is at least much better than the first one I mentioned.
after I see and examine the people who reply to this topic, it turns out that there are certain steps to deal with this. Then I formulated it to deal with the corruption that hampers the economy in a country.
The first is to socialize to the whole community that corruption or misuse of the state budget hinders the state's goal of prospering its people. 2 establish an independent and transparent press institution, 3 make punishments for perpetrators of corruption that are firm and deterrent, 4 create an independent corruption eradication commission with legal protection, 5 government accountability reports every period must be transparent to the public so that the public can assess and supervise.

Yes, I don't think this will be easy in terms of technical implementation and it will take a lot of time, but if it is implemented properly and correctly, what we hope is that it will probably happen.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: virasisog on October 22, 2022, 03:19:26 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
This is the struggle of most developing countries including our country. Our government officials focus on projects that aren't necessary or helpful for the growth of our economy but would rather fulfill their selfish desires for their own benefit.
One of the examples is our education department, instead of allocating enough funds for educational buildings and educational equipment and infrastructures, they kept a huge fund and labeled it as confidential funds for government officials.
They are allocating funds for their own benefit which makes lots of citizens here suffer.
Corruption always hinders the growth of a country and our mistake is, we are always electing corrupt officials.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Eternad on October 22, 2022, 03:36:42 PM
This is about corruption which is common not only in developed and developing countries but gone uncontrolled in poor countries. Education is the key but it will take time even multiple generations to put an end to corruption or put it in the lowest form.

For hundreds of years, humans came up with many forms of government testing their effectiveness when it comes to power, economy, and populace and nothing came up perfect. Democracy came up as the nearest to perfection but it has its flaws too. But democracy in a fully educated country bound by a population enriched with deep social awareness and responsibility might work.
Some governments overused democracy that its hard for governments to implement rules that are good for the country since there’s always anti in every decision. It’s part of the government’s now as people have their own decision whether to support or not since they were eyeing for other officials to seat in government. If only there will be a better government that can let people choose whether to stay or leave one country or divide a country to pro and always non to have unity in what ever projects that is voted or approved by people then it can be a better place. But we all know we governments are politics and they are their for their mostly since they can benefit from it.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: vv181 on October 22, 2022, 03:37:19 PM
What do you specifically mean by "handle", I think the word are having multiple interpretations thus it doesn't really get to the substance.

what I know is corruption (budget misuse) into two, the first is to meet the needs of the personal stomach and the second group is for other developments, I mean by other developments, for example, which was for the construction of public facilities such as road access and then used for the construction of educational institutions or MSMEs whose goal is for the progress of the community in their area, even though number two cannot be justified by law, it is at least much better than the first one I mentioned.

It is also likely that the first may get widen due to their peers that are the main actor, the perpetrator is only the puppet. The second, surely there is a lot of bureaucracy process, thus every single step is prone to be corrupt. There isn't any better between those two, the act is mainly executed by a hidden motive which is for self-utilization benefit, not for the people.

The first is to socialize to the whole community that corruption or misuse of the state budget hinders the state's goal of prospering its people. 2 establish an independent and transparent press institution, 3 make punishments for perpetrators of corruption that are firm and deterrent, 4 create an independent corruption eradication commission with legal protection, 5 government accountability reports every period must be transparent to the public so that the public can assess and supervise.

Some governments are already doing those five things, the problem is, does it work and reduce the corruption percentage or not? Corruption is a complex topic and concept, it differs between any country so does the reason why some people are corrupt. So a single set of solutions is not going to solve corruption as it is.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: kryptqnick on October 22, 2022, 07:01:42 PM
Different countries face different central challenges and come from different traditions of economic policy-making. For example, while corruption is a global issue, the level of it and how big of a problem it is varies a lot from one country to another. In some medical challenges are crucial, in others there is a big hunger issue, and in some there's a big risk of a military coup which is almost nonexistent in many other countries. So how corrupt the government is and how much is affects society can vary a lot. Also, if history of economy has shown anything, it's that there's no universal solutions. Both governmental planning and free market can sometimes be saviors and other times be very harmful. So handling challenges depends on what's already in place, since it's impossible to design a viable solution while being withdrawn from the actual situation. I will lead to big unforeseen consequences even if it sounded very good on paper.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Raflesia on October 22, 2022, 09:24:47 PM
Even though humans are evolved and living as a society still we are one of the fewest living species who want to survive first than others and that is also the rule of nature which is also evolved and who is having the powers making it more beneficial for themselves and there is only way to handle is to become one of them, possible but highly unlikely to make it happen by a common man. :)
Because until now, even though the method may have been modern, the law of the jungle still continues because when we are strong we eat and those who are not strong it is clear that they are eaten.
This is something that is indeed the simplest that often happens, the problem is that the government is always one unit because when one of them does make a mistake, no one will be able to pay attention because they will also be affected. When the government is too greedy with power and wealth, it is certain that civilians will eat it, although in this case not all governments are like that, but on average they are like that.
We can point out few countries with very less corruption because the past leaders made the policies stricter and unchangeable so current people who are in the power has no choice than to follow what it has been followed by them. While in general speaking about the nature we belong to that species as I said in the previous post because we know strong one will survive.
Indeed, in this case there are some countries that can be said to be quite good at managing so that things like this do not happen and make the government's image look good, but this is only a small part of the number of corrupt countries.
although indeed we can still call this person a person because surely not all of them do that but still this has definitely tarnished the government which makes it difficult for many of us to trust the government.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Smartvirus on October 22, 2022, 09:34:32 PM
It's actually difficult to get the best out of governance when some of the political seats are by appointments. It provides the avenue to circulate wealth amongst a group of persons and most times, repeats the same thing over again until it becomes a tradition. This already takes the trust out of the people and makes the of little importance and as such, there is little the government would want to do for them.
Most of all, the agencies put in place doesn't work against them but for them so, how would they not do as they like when they could always get away with almost everything. Until we have an accountable government, development is always going to be hampered by the existing systems.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: South Park on October 22, 2022, 10:31:43 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
I do not really think there is much that can be done about this even if you are right, humans by nature look after themselves and those they care about, supposedly public servants should put the interest of the citizens of the country above their own interests but this is almost impossible to do for the majority of the people, and those who can are often people which do not work as part of the government, like scientists or artists, I really think the only way to change this was if at some point an AI in the future was the one managing the country and not people.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: samcrypto on October 22, 2022, 11:08:19 PM
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
There's always a way if they want it but since I'm living in a corrupt country, and our people is not trusting the government anymore there's actually no unity and the law only applies to poor people. If the government make a strict implementation of the law and punish those who are corrupt, I think many country will start to recover and probably discover their true potential. I admire countries who are so strict and their citizen still follows it, look at them now they are rich just like Singapore. Government should do their best to solve the economic problem, I believe investors are always there waiting for the opportunity to come.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on October 23, 2022, 02:58:24 AM
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what I know is corruption (budget misuse) into two, the first is to meet the needs of the personal stomach and the second group is for other developments, I mean by other developments, for example, which was for the construction of public facilities such as road access and then used for the construction of educational institutions or MSMEs whose goal is for the progress of the community in their area, even though number two cannot be justified by law, it is at least much better than the first one I mentioned.
after I see and examine the people who reply to this topic, it turns out that there are certain steps to deal with this. Then I formulated it to deal with the corruption that hampers the economy in a country.
The first is to socialize to the whole community that corruption or misuse of the state budget hinders the state's goal of prospering its people. 2 establish an independent and transparent press institution, 3 make punishments for perpetrators of corruption that are firm and deterrent, 4 create an independent corruption eradication commission with legal protection, 5 government accountability reports every period must be transparent to the public so that the public can assess and supervise.

Yes, I don't think this will be easy in terms of technical implementation and it will take a lot of time, but if it is implemented properly and correctly, what we hope is that it will probably happen.
According to my thoughts. We will never find any effective solution to stop corruption, you should know that greed is part of being human and measures will not work if we can't get rid of greed but this is really impossible neither you nor I can kill our greed. All 5 solutions you suggest are great and nothing new, but the bottom line is that these organizations are also run by humans. And how can you ensure that they are the ones who won't get caught up in corruption, unless these organizations are run by robots.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Fara Chan on October 23, 2022, 03:39:05 AM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
It is called a government that is corrupt and unable to control its policies, on the one hand, many interests are accommodated, making them unable to carry out economic growth programs, so that the repercussions that arise on the citizens they lead.

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not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
It is very difficult to control state policies, regulations will always clash with interests, so there are many reasons that cause economic development to be delayed.
The way is by preparing Human Resources, the government provides as much space as possible for the people and ensures that domestic production runs according to the wishes achieved. If the people start to be strong in the economic field, then the government's task will be lighter to realize the country's economic growth


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: rokok lokal on October 23, 2022, 08:21:13 AM

is there a way to handle it?

I think my question is quite basic, What are the state losses from economic domination?

People's poverty and unemployment. As a result, there is an increase in the national debt, so let's apply how to encourage economic growth by increasing economic policies that involve corruption.

If we all here want our government to have good economic development, then we must choose our head of state accurately, not choosing rulers but leaders.

Prosperity comes when the dreamer has knowledge and is able to read ahead. In my opinion, this is the key because it is considered capable of managing the country's economy by embracing a certain group of experts and analysts to handle the stability of the country's economy and finances.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: dothebeats on October 23, 2022, 09:15:25 AM
I think the only way to curb this plague in governance is to install actual public servants - those who do not put their interests forward and leave the interest of the public behind. Easier said than done, and in this day and age, how many people are there that remains to be pure in intentions anyway? Probably a handful, and a lot of them would surely pass on the opportunity to be in the government or will have the requirements to handle a public post.

Politicians will always have ulterior motives that will benefit themselves. Only thing that needs to be done is to choose which of them are the lesser of the evils.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: davis196 on October 23, 2022, 10:04:12 AM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?

You are using way too many words to describe something, which is very simple-political corruption.
How to deal with political corruption? Having a functioning democracy with "checks and balances", an independent and efficient judicial system,  good prosecutors, having an active society in general. The list goes on and on and the battle against corruption will continue forever.
I don't really think that government programs are so crucial for a country's economical development.
We don't live in a command economy, like back in the communist block between 1945-1990. The government doesn't rule over the economy.
The private sector is what creates economical growth, new jobs and pay the taxes. The government is responsible for the fair redistribution of the tax revenue.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: panganib999 on October 23, 2022, 12:06:04 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
Point taken, some policies in my home country aren't Microbusiness-Friendly, and ever since inflation came crashing earlier this year, businesses left and right closed down because of the unfair practices from the government whether legal or under the table, as well as out of scope economic crises like the aforementioned inflation. At the end of the day, the Government is the one that wins and we are at the mercy of those from the top, the legislators, the authorities, etc.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Tallupooh on October 25, 2022, 04:43:13 AM
The main thing in my opinion is to reduce corruption. The country will not progress if there is corruption in the government. To manage a country to become a developed and prosperous country, starting from the way of government.

The main way of management is to always pay attention to people. Many people often criticize the government simply because the government does not provide assistance to people in need, which they say will be given at a certain time, and in fact they do not provide it. Or they offer help, but somehow they give it to the rich.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: ringgo96 on October 25, 2022, 07:51:22 AM
Indeed such is the case on the ground that we are witnessing today many state governments no longer want to build an interest that is regretful to the whole people, even though all countries have a budget in building every need but it cannot be achieved because of the constraints of administrative management that runs not according to procedures, to overcome this problem is very difficult because many humans today live greedy and do not care about the losses of others they  it is only selfish, so to be able to achieve a justice is very difficult to realize.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Kakmakr on October 25, 2022, 08:39:16 AM
Well, the best example of this is the allocation of large Tenders to family and friends of the leaders of those countries. Take Nigeria as an example, they have large Oil reserves and you would expect that the people would benefit from that.... but the opposite is true, some politicians and their families are getting the majority of those riches..from corrupt tenders and bribes.  ::)

So, yes.... governments can hamper the growth of the country..when they have corrupt leaders and politicians. In democratic countries, people fight back with their votes..... but the corrupt politicians even rig those voting results.  >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Joshapat on October 25, 2022, 09:10:15 AM
Sometimes poverty is deliberately maintained because the highest leader assumes that with the people become poor, the country's leaders can easily be corrupt and enrich, when the people are poor, every day is busy to find income and not care about what the government is doing, whereas if the people will be prosperous there will be control of government tight.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Bazzu on October 25, 2022, 11:30:44 AM
In my opinion, in this case the public should propose to the government that a team be formed whose job it is to spy on people who behave badly or who always take people's money. and also requires awareness from the community itself, if the community sees people who have taken community rights, it is better to report them to the authorities.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Davian144 on October 25, 2022, 11:45:57 AM
The main thing in my opinion is to reduce corruption. The country will not progress if there is corruption in the government. To manage a country to become a developed and prosperous country, starting from the way of government.
People who are already in the government system actually already know how to carry out their own country's regulations for any matter, because they are chosen by the people to sit in the seat of government so that they can manage the country as well as possible without any other feelings in their hearts as in the example of corruption. Because corruption is part of the personal desire of each person sitting in the seat of government, because not everyone who sits there has the same intention for it.

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The main way of management is to always pay attention to people. Many people often criticize the government simply because the government does not provide assistance to people in need, which they say will be given at a certain time, and in fact they do not provide it. Or they offer help, but somehow they give it to the rich.
Actually there are many ways to be better if those who sit in government seats want to do it with a sincere heart, but their desire to get rich quick is much bigger than the heart of those who want to help the people. Because the distribution of aid is usually through data on the poor who have already been recorded before the aid is distributed, and I don't think this is a problem for the government because they are able to distribute it on target. But in terms of corruption, I think it is difficult to eradicate from the root.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: jaberwock on October 25, 2022, 01:54:43 PM
This is about corruption which is common not only in developed and developing countries but gone uncontrolled in poor countries. Education is the key but it will take time even multiple generations to put an end to corruption or put it in the lowest form.

For hundreds of years, humans came up with many forms of government testing their effectiveness when it comes to power, economy, and populace and nothing came up perfect. Democracy came up as the nearest to perfection but it has its flaws too. But democracy in a fully educated country bound by a population enriched with deep social awareness and responsibility might work.
It's common in poorer or developing countries and this was the reason on why they became poor but not in well developed countries. Education is the key (not the one where people go to school and study) but people needs to be educated for the right people that they will vote whenever there is an ongoing elections.

Education is good so that people can learn to read and write but it cant' really help in terms of finding a job. Many poorer countries lacks of job opportunities and there are people who graduate from several college courses but they are still unemployed for a long time. The change should start with our governments first.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: kapalmabur on October 25, 2022, 03:01:39 PM
Sometimes poverty is deliberately maintained because the highest leader assumes that with the people become poor, the country's leaders can easily be corrupt and enrich, when the people are poor, every day is busy to find income and not care about what the government is doing, whereas if the people will be prosperous there will be control of government tight.
If such a government mindset really exists I think it's a disgusting thing,
those people in government should thank them by making the right policies for their people for voting for them,
It's really difficult if the culture of corruption continues to be maintained


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: yhiaali3 on October 25, 2022, 04:10:36 PM
Government corruption is a widespread phenomenon in all countries and it is difficult to control, but corruption in developing countries is many times greater than that in developed countries. It is difficult to get rid of this thing because this defect exists in the insatiable human psyche, there is a constant desire to make more money Even if they have billions and I don't think there is a way to fix that, the only way is to fix morals or change human nature and this is very difficult.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: Kadal Ijo on October 26, 2022, 07:47:26 AM
Long -term policy with the economy is the most important thing, many countries when changing government, the previous government policy is stopped and made new policies so that it is difficult to develop, and of course the government and the council must agree to continue to develop the economy.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: justdimin on October 26, 2022, 04:40:00 PM
The main thing in my opinion is to reduce corruption. The country will not progress if there is corruption in the government. To manage a country to become a developed and prosperous country, starting from the way of government.

The main way of management is to always pay attention to people. Many people often criticize the government simply because the government does not provide assistance to people in need, which they say will be given at a certain time, and in fact they do not provide it. Or they offer help, but somehow they give it to the rich.
I believe that politicians are people who shouldn't be politicians, nobody in the world who could become politician should become a politician in order to save the world. In order to become a politician, you should be looking to either get the like from your higher ups to be positioned in a place, or you should be getting some votes from the people meaning you should try to be a populist to be voted in there.

This means you need to build a character that would be liked and say what people want to hear. In reality, a politician should be someone who would progress a nation even while others are rejecting the idea, because if you could progress a nation further in the face of backlash, only that will improve it.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: nara1892 on October 26, 2022, 05:31:00 PM
Indeed such is the case on the ground that we are witnessing today many state governments no longer want to build an interest that is regretful to the whole people, even though all countries have a budget in building every need but it cannot be achieved because of the constraints of administrative management that runs not according to procedures, to overcome this problem is very difficult because many humans today live greedy and do not care about the losses of others they  it is only selfish, so to be able to achieve a justice is very difficult to realize.
"The rich get richer, the poor get poorer" is probably the right word to describe how government works. They get paid from our money and we facilitate their every need. But as it is said that they work to enrich themselves and without thinking about how the life of the people they lead. Indeed, I do not deny that many people still care about how their people live and fight for what they should be fighting for. But still they were still outnumbered by people who could be said to be greedy.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: aylabadia05 on October 26, 2022, 07:09:13 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?
Depends on the country adopts the system of government. From the example you gave, I think that such cases have been carried out systematically, so the way to deal with them is in the difficult category.
If a country adheres to a system or concept of democracy, one way out to overcome it, in my opinion, is for the people to unite to take "action", because the people in the concept of a democratic government are the main force.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: South Park on October 29, 2022, 09:45:26 PM
Indeed such is the case on the ground that we are witnessing today many state governments no longer want to build an interest that is regretful to the whole people, even though all countries have a budget in building every need but it cannot be achieved because of the constraints of administrative management that runs not according to procedures, to overcome this problem is very difficult because many humans today live greedy and do not care about the losses of others they  it is only selfish, so to be able to achieve a justice is very difficult to realize.
There are still many people who are dishonest in managing state finances.  they have their own ideals sometimes do not hear the voice of the people.  it's good that a country is doing a lot of development but the negative impact is the debt is getting bigger and indigenous taxes are increasing and the price of fuel is also rising.  and the most terrible thing is the difficulty of finding a job in your own country, everything requires money
When the economy is doing well such acts of corruption can remain hidden as their effects are not easily felt, however when there is a crisis all of that money that was stolen and the mistaken policies which were enacted to allow those politicians to enrich themselves begin to show their effects, however as much as we dislike it this is never going to disappear as those which are at the top want to remain there, and for that they were willing to cheat to get that high so it makes sense they will also cheat to remain there.


Title: Re: government hampers the country's economy
Post by: DrBeer on October 30, 2022, 06:33:57 PM
Economic growth depends on the state's economic policies, where the government has the right to regulate and finance a program for the development of the country's economic development, but the policy is actually used by the government who uses it for personal interests and even policymakers. self. This event is very common in both developed and developing countries.
not a few policymakers who ask and even cut the budget from funding the program for the benefit of themselves and their groups, citing administrative and accommodation costs. that is why a country's economic development program is difficult to achieve and bankrupt the country.
is there a way to handle it?

What you described, most likely, and most accurately described by the word - corruption. More precisely, this is one of the manifestations of corruption, when only "their pocket" businesses or projects are supported at the expense of the state treasury, while others are told "about the difficult situation in the country/economy/world/.....". This is already a global problem of state power, both global and local.