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What is wrong in having link texts (text with links) at the end of a topic you created with a demarcation between the link texts and the body of your main post, plus using distinct colors for the link texts and making them bolder than the main post? Can you consider the link texts a signature if the posts the links are pointing to are relevant to the thread you created but not part of the topic hence the demarcation, or what if the link-text posts can be useful to readers when they read the main post?

You see, one of the reason I don't like signatures so much is because of the possible lack of feature that allows forum members to turn-off signatures for certain threads they are not relevant/appropriate in. I prefer to wear signature that only display in all/most of my post they are relevant in. For example, I don't want to create topics about something that belongs in "Politics & Society" Section while having Irrelevant Betting Signature appearing below the posts... Or irrelevant Trading Signature under a Faith-based posts, etc. So, I think parts of the solution is to have the option to turn-off your signature for such posts, or options to switch to another signature that are relevant to the post incase you are promoting multiple signatures that are meant to be displayed one at a time.
There are links i was sharing as signature (the typical way people display signatures) but I stopped sharing them in that way because the were not displaying properly and I don't like them appearing on threads they are not relevant in. So, my solution to such issues is to include the links in my posts (only relevant posts) rather than placing them in the signature box/section and having them appearing in all my posts.  Do you see anything wrong in this? If yes, what exactly?

If it's not wrong, why moderators are edited your post and wrote "remove fake signature"? lol, it's obviously wrong.

The reason there's a restriction by each users rank, just like newbie can't wear a signature. A newbie account can just copied BBCode of Hero user signature and attach the signature below of his post, this will make the restrictions of each ranks are useless.

This has been discussed on few years ago, but I can't find the thread.


Now I wonder why you're not put the BBCode or texts on your signature? you're a senior member and can wear a decent signature with limited style.

I got a copy of your post https://ninjastic.space/topic/5417080
Where is the signature?

Yes, there are problems. Imagine everyone is positing something with every post they are making. It will look members are just spamming everywhere.

Signatures are supposed to be in signature area. Doing otherwise is pretty much off topic and certainly can be seen as annoying.
You can read Theymos' stance on this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=749961.msg8466370#msg8466370

Basically unless you are actually designing signatures or doing a signature campaign (or things like this), having signature in the post area will be sooner or later reported and probably deleted.

Yes.
If I don't want to see the signatures below the posts, I can easily go to my profile and change the setting, so signatures are not shown.
If you post a signature below your posts and I don't want to see them, I can ignore your posts or report them.
If all the users do the same thing, I can do not nothing. So, the best is to not allow users to add signatures to their posts at all.

Maybe, OP edited that post and added something later.

Interesting replies but I'm still waiting for satisfactory answer/answers.

Can you call such text links Signature?
By the way, the idea for the text links came when I decided I will be putting out bold warning below posts I made if I'm wearing betting signatures. The warning will be demarcated by a line and their links will be pointing to guides for qualify bettors to bet right and responsibly

There's a rule against posting a signature in your post if it's done repeatedly. If it's done once then it's fine, if it isn't then expect to be moderated and banned for it in further instances.

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There's options to disable viewing of signatures, your in thread signature won't have this and then it'll become annoying. I don't see an issue with signatures being anywhere on this forum tbh (I get they're not in some places but that feels like more of a way to stop the posts counting for signature campaigns as some signatures add different things to threads (as a good example, I saw a newbie ask what gambling sites were trusted and they got a response from a lot of fairly trusted gambling signatures within the first few posts). If a signature isn't relevant to a thread (like gambling in P&S as you've said) does it make much of a difference to anyone else but you? I've not seen this as a complaint before except many years ago when people suggested having some different signatures/profile appearances per boards but it was more to enrol in a signature campaign and self advertise on some boards.

You can wait forever if you want, nothing will change in the way the forum will treat you as long as you behave against the rules. I'm just surprised that the moderators allow you to write such nonsense on the Economics board.

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But he considers himself special, very close to the all-powerful creator, and if he wants to, he can move the BTC price up to $40k tomorrow ::)

If these links are related to what you are posting, then why not? Except if it's an affiliate/referral or just purely advertising which is against the rule #24 [1].

No existing forum that has signature have feature like this. Signature are made not as advertisements. You can disable it on your profile settings.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Well, I post some bitcointalk forum links once in while, when necessary, under my posts. I do this especially when I feel people will be confused without them.

I searched for the meaning of Forum Signature, I guess you should do too. If my colored links qualify as signatures then what stops my "Related Posts" links in plain texts which I also use occasionally from being reported as signature?  I wonder if certain threads I created can do without them. I think there should be clear definition of what signature means, so my related posts don't also get reported as signature.

I think that the problem is the repeated advertisement^[1], as advertisements are not allowed except in the signatures area, and therefore even if it is just a link at the bottom of each topic and it was repeated, you will be deleted or banned for a temporary period, as you are trying to advertise and not discuss.
Thus, we do not need to define the signature, since any repetitive advertisement is prohibited (This includes making high quality posts.)


If this signature is in a topic or two, and it matches the content of the topic, it will not be deleted.

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It is not allowed. BBcode for signature is allowed to wear in your profit signature area only.

That rule prohibits usage of BBcode like if you are Junior member but want to join a bounty or a campaign with Hero Member rank. You can not wear the BBcode set for Hero member rank because of character limits.

What can you do? Copy and paste the BBcode to your post, with a horizontal line like I do as follows. It is not allowed and considered is cheating.

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I think this is something to also be discouraged unless there's only one or two links there (preferably you'd only link your last topic on a similar subject and do that on the other threads so it's easier to traverse an read without being considered spammy or unnecessary).

You could also just bump your old thread with the new information too.

Nothing stops anything from being "reported" and you might still have people reporting them and perhaps occasions where something is reported enough that a moderator acts on it too when the issue is only minor. As I attempted to say above, if it's unique and relevant enough it probably won't be acted on by the mods.


Generally: signatures include advertising and are the same size as a signature text (and might have other hints with them too).
It's up to the moderators how they define and enforce this sort of thing so it's unlikely you'll get a clear definition of what is acceptable and what isn't.

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The rule was only mainly brought in to try to stop people from extending their own signature spaces and to prohibit those with signature bans from evading the rules and posting signatures in their posts instead.

The posting and signature rules are separate. If that were allowed it would be a hassle for moderators to check whatever you advertise in each post and would be a loophole for criminals to use. You may insert a link "X" in the first post while you insert a link "Y" in the second post still in the same ad text and soon.

The direct answer is No, you can't add such links and it will be considered as signature. I had seen lot of such attempts by newbies but surely their post will be removed on most cases but since you are senior member they gave you warning and in future don't attempt such actions.

Signature is space where we can use our advertisement links and there is no reason why it should be relevant to our threads or where we post, cause we have dedicated boards where signatures are completely banned.

I still don't want to check his post history but want to guess. This is the user who were spamming on boards and asking he can influence BTC price?

How long you are familiar with the forum? You sound like you woke up today and learning all about signature and things of the forum. From Jan 2017 to today, in all these years how haven't you encounter such experience?

Ucy, I don't know if this is what you're talking about here, but I just reported two posts (this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416815.msg61105683#msg61105683) being one of them) by the same member who'd inserted links into his posts.  They're not even referral links, but I thought they were inappropriate since they had nothing to do with the thread they were in and could only be advertising.

I don't know if that's against the rules, but I don't think this forum needs any more advertising in posts.  What if that were allowed?  My guess is that new campaigns would spring up around "post links" or whatever these are called.  Anyway, if that's not what you're talking about then I apologize (but it does sound like related).

My reports were marked as "good" though obviously the posts weren't removed.  I'm not sure why that is.

I remember a situation when someone tried to include hero/legendary signature codes in their posts by being a full-member rank and then @hilariousandco warned like including anything into a post irrelevant to topic will lead to mark as spam or off-topic hence forum rules will apply which may land such posters into temporary ban/ permanent ban.

You sound like a newbie that just registered an account yesterday. After all those years you still don't know that having signatures in the post area is not allowed. Use your available signature space. It's there for a reason. if you don't like it then there is nothing we can do here. That's you problem.

What you are trying to do is like seeing a designated toilet place but then you go and shit outside it claiming it's the right thing to do.

Can you show the links that mprep removed? It's hard to judge without knowing what we're talking about. You make it sound as if you add relevant links, but I doubt mprep would have removed them if that's the case.

If that's off-topic, it's still not allowed.

That's right, it's enough to visit Speculation and look at his two threads on the first page, and everything will be clear to you. Personally, I have nothing against everyone expressing their opinion and views, but such posts should be on appropriate boards. Misleading forum members that one person can influence the price of something with his actions based on religious beliefs is, in my opinion, very suspicious behavior.

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I can't say that what I archived is 100% what was deleted, but I am quite sure that it is identical content.

https://archive.ph/zPFYJ

I get why that was deleted :)

Now compare mine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254914.msg54601554#msg54601554), which I never even considered to be a "signature" (and was never questioned by a Mod).

I have checked out the post and I did not see the signature that was asked to remove. Maybe I missed something or it's no longer available for viewing.
Ihave also checked Op and he is not wearing a paid signature
I am thinking that the only reason one would want to use text area for signature is to have a double signature space, maybe one (main sig space) for promoting the company that hired him while his improvised textarea signature space promotes his personal Project.

It iss not wise because if everyone begins to do that, it will turn spamming and contradictory to the main signature space. Besides, the personal text area is available for use.

I strongly believe that when you visit Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc, you didn't go there to look at ads or to click on ads, but they still show you ads anyways, ads not even related to what you logged into either of the social medias to do...

For example, you can log on to Facebook to look at your friends newly posted pictures, as you scroll, Facebook will show you a man of God preaching, or a laptop for sale by someone who isn't even in your friends list, and at some point, you've found an ad that interested you and you clicked on it to find out more about that product... Was that what you went to Facebook to do?. The answer is No.

Advertising on this forum, ( like it is every where else) doesn't have to correlate with what is being discussed on that thread for the ad to show,  as the discussion is going on, and the ads showing, somebody might pick Interest to want to know more or even, the ad might be displaying some thing that user have been looking for for a long time...
So indeed, your argument holds no water, you are a senior member, go get a decent ad and wear.

He's not wearing a signature, but he's adding a fake one in the post area, which is not allowed check this post ---> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412147.0

Yes, I see everything wrong with your suggestion. Let me ask simply, so what happens to the posts you make wearing certain signature when you change to another signature? Let's say, for instance, you get to promote a gambling project and you make all your posts only in gambling sections just to keep inline with the signature name and ideology, what happens when you move into a campaign that's anti-gambling? What then happens to all your gambling posts wearing a "pius" signature? Remember that what is displayed on users' profiles is the current signature they're signed on. So, by calculation what everyone sees is the current signature even on posts made years ago. Your suggestion won't work. It's going to be chaotic implementing it.