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I can see that some people have a high rank and some are lower, is it advisable to take advice from high rank members more serious than jr member and full members?

Interms of knowledge, there is no distinction on who to take advices from. There some newbies that actually have more technical, economical or other knowledge than some higher ranking members. Mind you the forum warns on depending on the information gotten from this forum, you need to do more research by yourself.
But when it's a matter of business I think you need to do that with members that have reputation in the forum. The easiest way to check that is to see there trust information and how they have handled such businesses in the past

The fact that someone has a higher rank on this forum usually just means the fact that that user registered before other members on this forum and that's all.
For advice, you should ask those members who have a certain reputation and knowledge on this forum, and that really does not depend on the forum rank.
A good indicator of which members have a good reputation within the forum community is the number of merits a particular member has received.
In fact, I have even met certain newbie members who are not very active on this forum but come from the crypto industry and have a lot of knowledge and experience in the field  ;D

Which advice? If it's about Bitcoin, nope, ranks don't necessarily signify knowledge or even experience in the field. If it's about the forum, probably yes. Those who have been here for a long time are probably more familiar with the rules and how things generally work here.

If you hang out here, explore, and read discussions often, you will eventually know who are the users that are apparently more knowledgeable than the rest. You will certainly give more weight to their advice.

You did not say which type of advice you thinking but you mixed up two things here, forum rank with knowledge.
forum rank is gained by time and participation spent on the forum. many members reached a high rank (before the introduction of metrics) by spamming. if you need advice from someone who knows a certain subject well, forum rank has nothing to do with it.

there is also a certain number of old-new users. Members with a high rank who have achieved a negative reputation, start from scratch, and present themselves as newbies but already have experience with the functioning of the forum.

High rank members are early to register on this forum, no more no less, you can still get a bad advice from high rank members so it's better to do your own research, there are high rank members up to legendary that have red trust for some reason, my advice is no matter who is sharing an advice with you always do your own research.

This isn't true. It's not necessarily that the earlier you have registered, the higher your rank.

This user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10000) has registered in 2011 and is still a newbie.
This user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000000) has registered in 2017 and is still a newbie.

fillippone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1852120) has registered in 2018 and is now a legendary member.
Ratimov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2627711) has registered in 2019 and is now a legendary member.
BlackHatCoiner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2775483) has registered in 2020 and is now a legendary member.
n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858) has registered in 2021 and is now a Sr. Member

Better yet, use the number of merit received by the particular reply as the indicator of a good advice.

Because the merit displayed below the username can be misleading to newbies,
it'll need a bit of research to see if most of it are "airdropped" or "earned" merit.

You should never auto trust advice from anyone.

If you auto trust or have higher trust on someone, some members just because they wear a nice suit, they are higher-ranked members on the forum, you will be scammed more easily.

Don't trust, verify their advice by searching and checking what they recommend is good or bad, right or wrong. About member ranks, higher-ranked members are either very knowledgeable and high quality posters or simply spammers and shit posters.

• [Guide] Searching effectively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)
• Newbies - Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)

Ranks are not an indication that advice from a high rank will be better than from a low rank. Ranks are a measure of time spent on the forum. The longer a user is active on bitcointalk, the higher their rank (this was before the new merit era). But now about the nuances. Now, to increase the rank, you need merits, which are usually (not in all cases) awarded for useful posts. So it turns out that high ranks are given to people who have useful information and knowledge, sharing which they received these ranks. Again, this is not true in all cases. I would recommend paying attention to the amount of merits of users (especially those who have a lot of merits) and this can be assessed as a kind of filter to determine the real level of possession of useful knowledge that allows you to give really useful advice, in contrast to the formal rank. For me personally, a certain indicator of the usefulness of posts is the presence of merits that other users have marked this post with. Most often in them I find something new and useful for myself in terms of information.

Nope, rank doesn't mean anything because not everyone are active on this forum. There are low ranking members which is more knowledgeable than them so maybe try to focus on what content of the people and you can easily find out if they are really good and not. Anyways maybe catch multiple information and don't focus on single advices since its more helpful if you have many basis towards what actions you want to do on your cryptocurrency hunting career.

It’s probably best to try to get an idea through contrast of multiple comments from different accounts. I was going to add regardless of the rank, which in a sense is true, but it can also be false in certain instances.

After a while on the forum, you’d probably shift from thinking that the higher the rank the better the council, to a criteria more nominal account related (i.e. paying more attention to some specific profiles over others), whilst still contrasting the information.

Rank shouldn't be a matter while browsing, or using a forum for discussion. I have been using this forum for more than 4 years now and I'm a legendary member now, that doesn't mean I'm better knowledgeable about bitcoin's technical aspects than nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210). If we think in that way, every Legendary member here should be a pro bitcoiner while I know very few of them are pro bitcoiner. There is a lot of forum member who barely post here while they are pro too. You yourself must check and evaluate what advice you think is good. Don't trust someone blindly.

I would advise to check the trust score rather than the high rank.

Depends on the advice. Is it technically related? Then take advise from someone who's reputable and is used to discuss in the Dev & Tech (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0) board. Is it speculation related? Take it from someone who's reputable and is used to discuss in the Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0) board. Is it about buying and selling stuff? Same for Marketplace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=5.0).

Ranking doesn't tell much, because merits are often airdropped in old accounts. Sometimes earned merits don't tell much either.

Just view this in the sense of human beings, an older person might be wiser and more knowledgeable than a younger person, and vice versa. The ranking here is to show how old and active you are on the forum, yet the quality of your posts matters too, but not necessarily mean that the higher ranks are better than the lower ranks. Personally, I have seen many lower ranks writing better than many higher ranks, it is mostly about the time you opened your BTT account and the measure of the merits and activities that you gathered over time as per the rule of the forum.

Therefore, it is left to you to decipher a sensible post from anyone whether from the lowest or highest ranks.

on forums probably the first thing you see is the rankings. but for me, it doesn't mean that those with high ranks will have more knowledge.
I'm not talking about all cases. because in getting a high ranking, there are some cases. those who came to the forum longer, even before the merit system existed. many also have reached the rank of Hero and Legendary. but of them, some do not get any Merit. they are only here for the campaign.
other cases, those who get high-ranking accounts by buying them. it's like high rank but beginner knowledge.

OP, I suggest you read more threads that you like. For example: if you are interested in mining, you can go to the mining board. there you will see experienced members who can help you. In certain discussions sometimes those who rank high are also happy to learn from those who are still beginners.

Exactly there are many such instances where users who have registered early say before merit system implementation have limited themselves to some bounty hunting programme and have hundred of pages of bounty submission only and could not rank up because lack of merits.

There are still some high rank members who have zero merit and could not reach that rank if the merit system was implemented before 2018 so this example justify the condition for it.

As you have said about @fillippone and others like @n0nce who registered as newbie with zero merit today are in top merit holders on forum with their contributions only and sharing their knowledge with others on forum so early members have nothing to do with high rank solely.

OP don't take advice from anybody except yourself, the only thing available here is a guide to what you want it's left for you to advice yourself on what to do, so that you won't have to blame any forum member for losing funds. Go through all the threads in the forum that looks like an advice most of them carry under it and quote “not a financial advice" do your own research.

You're going to be surprised how many people have way more knowledge in Bitcoin than some members here and they have not even registered to this forum just yet.

Don't let the forum ranking make you think that you can't make decision based on the advice given by the full members. You should still research the advices given to you and make the decisions there. Back when the ranking system was activity-based, it was all too easy for some users to rank-up, but now it might not be that easy for them.

This is quite a bad advice. It makes the user close-minded from any other new knowledge. It would be best to at least take consideration of advices then make decisions after you had made a couple of research from whatever was advised to you.

When you talk about rank, it doesn't mean same thing with knowledge in bitcoin and other related to it. There are so many things concerning account here, some low rank account are also controlled by a higher rank member so such kind of lower rank will share very good knowledge like a higher rank. Ranks don't matter but you can have your own decision whatever advise you get to make use of it base on your additional research and decision.

No, what you should be in look after is the quality of the content of the advice given, a newbie can advise a newbie or legendary rank as long as it is on point, this also determines weather the receiver find it satisfactory enough or not, I've seen legendary giving wrong advise or reply and sone doing well in giving out the best, same also with newbies, not all of them are trollers, we have the serious minded ones commited to good works a d not until from the receivers end it was acknowledged, then it may be refers to as low quality advise.

That's not true, all accounts for any rating can provide the best advice for other users without account ranking differences, we judge from the quality of the posts and the benefits of the suggestions that have been given depending on each individual's perception, so even if your account is ranked a newbie or jr member then you are free to provide useful suggestions to all forum users.

Low quality advice is low quality and there are various ways to determine if an advice is low quality or not, first and foremost is the content of the advice as some mentioned above, then there is how well you relate the point the adviser is making to your own situation, and finally the rank and reputation of the person giving the advice. If they are an expert in their field and have experience in similar situations, then their advice is likely to be more valuable and their rank and merit points will also be higher, which gives them more credibility. If you are being given advice from someone who is not a high ranking member, or even worse is a member with bad reputation, then there is a good chance that their advice will be low quality as well.

High-rank members earn their reputation and merits through giving a good quality of contents and information some people think the merit is hard to make well entirely some are true, but if you invest first with your knowledge and skills that could be shared here in the community, we have merit sources willingly giving merits. Some of the mistakes of the newbie is doing copy pasting other content to earn them merits, and that's why few of them get banned or have a red trust. For me, I highly recommend is to enjoy reading here, sharing information, and learning.

OP, it depends on what field you're taking the advice on. Don't generalize that high ranking members are more knowledgeable. That isn't true. We've new entrants recently who've been proving and making meaningful contributions to the forum. Look around and you will find them. One even had theymos adopt the "OP" inclusion to thread starters and that's a beautiful thing. Let me quickly add however, that you shouldn't ever take advice from anyone who tries to advise you on financial matters in your inbox without you seeking them out first, no matter their rank or perceived influence. Most often, they're scammers.

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I don't think that's all. There are members who got on this forum before 2018 but are just still Full Members in spite that they're still active while there are those who got registered here in 2020 or so but have ranked up to legendary. So, ranks don't necessarily mean that someone got registered before another.

I won't judge anyone's reputation based on the number of merits they've. That would be using a wrong yardstick. Merit is subjective and doesn't confer reputation or knowledge on users.

This is absolutely true.

It depends, a newbie can give you a better advice than a high rank member on the forum, it all depends on the area of speciality, I knew about crypto mining before joining this forum and imagine someone asking me about mining on here, my answers will be more accurate than someone who know too less about crypto mining even if they have a higher rank.

 Nothing's actually up with ranking. Just get your findings right about a topic you either want to post on or comment on. There's no specific person suitable to take advice from but it's preferred that those who have had more knowledge on the forum, you adhere to.

 Just like the other posters have suggested, getting merits faster depends on what you do with those instructions and how constructive your posts can be.

Anyone seeking for advice must have pre-advised his or herself, such that whenever they see a good or a bad advice they will decipher.
That is what happens here in the forum, even if you are totally ignorant of any particular matter or topic, while reading the discussion you would  know the particular advice or guide that is good for you.

Some legendary accounts has newbies behind them while some newbies have good knowledge of Bitcoin.
But generally, established members give more advice and are more knowledgeable than lower-ranked members.

True and just by how some "newbie" ranking turned into Hero-Legendary within months just tells how experienced they are in crypto (not just Bitcoin). It is quite amazing to know that there are plenty of Bitcoin users out there that are just roaming around the internet and not just spending their whole time in the forum.

In the end, forum rank is forum rank anyway just like how karma count and awards are just points in Reddit.

Firstly, welcome to the forum where it all goes down on bitcoin. I hope you are open to taking those advice you source on which users would guarantee some of the best.

The forum is just sme way of promoting users whom have been here for long and have been making impacts. That doesn't mean they know much or are pros as some users find this forum more easily than others and that doesn't mean knowledge, it just implies you were opportuned.

On the whole, it's not a very common finding users with lower ranks that knows very much but, they are here alright. So just, take what you can get and what makes sense.

The rank system is a good indicator to assess at a glance what the probability is that the user knows what he is talking about. But in most cases, the rank just shows activity on this particular forum. And how long the participant has been registered. So we shouldn't exclude the possibility that a person is well-versed in cryptocurrencies but recently decided to join. You need to read the messages and analyze them, because that's what the forum was created for, in the end :)

It will depend on the personality and personal knowledge of each member. Many higher ranks have more knowledge because commonly they are much longer being in this forum, moreover, those who get many merits and rank up as higher-rank members, commonly got the merits because of their constructive posts, which, need more knowledge and also other elements that are influencing.

In this case, a longer time period in this forum doesn't mean that the members have more knowledge or being more serious. We can also find many new or lower rank members here also have good knowledge, manners, sharing, experiences, discussion, and also information. So, we cannot similarize it.

high ranking also does not determine whether he is great or not,
but usually those who already have a high rank, have broader knowledge.

and you also don't underestimate the ability of beginners, because sometimes beginners also have the same abilities as other high rankings,

So in essence, don't underestimate beginners, and don't doubt the high ranking ones.

Hello mate, welcome to the forum, the fact that there are higher rank levels to you means that they have more knowledge than you so there is no problem if a junior member will give you advice, for sure they already gain some knowledge here because they already rank up.

I also want to tell you not to focus on rank, focus first on gaining knowledge before minding to ranking up because that is the most important thing that you can have here in this forum. Ranking up is easy if you already gain a lot of knowledge in crypto, so focus on reading and be active here.

This statement is not always true. Normally it may be true, but there are some abnormal things that often happen on forums. For example, the account of the recipient of the merit airdrop due to the calculation of the activity (this happens when the merit is about to begin to be applied), there are also those who get an account because they buy an account from an irresponsible person, etc. So I'm a little disapproving if you say merit describes a person as a genius on abnormal account conditions. We'll have to look further into the posts he made. IMO ;D

Don't measure up advice with ranks. Are you going to steal if a legendary member asked you to? The answer is up to you to decide.

A higher rank member is a being like me and you, who can be experienced or less experienced in life. The hidden identity of this forum has made some members think that they are higher and more experience in crypto than others. While in the real sense they are not.

Everyone in this forum is entitled to whatever advice to accept or reject. Whether it's coming from a newbie to a legendary member

Maybe you are right. Activity is also needed in order to rank up, but you forgot to mention the important thing which is merit. Even though though you have necessary activity for the next rank, but your merit isnt enough yet then you wouldnt rank up yet. Its also about merit to avoid this easy ranking up lile before. Its also an indicator for someone to see how useful and quality the post of some users.

high-rank member indicates that they have been in the cryptosphere for a while and would usually have answers to your questions or advice you might need or want but that doesn't mean that low-ranking members are less knowledgeable. if you stay here long enough you'll see low-ranking members that has far more knowledge than high-ranking members but the reason you don't really see a lot of them is that they don't stay low-ranking for long since they quickly accumulate merits and ranks up faster than other members.

In the forum knowledge comes from every rank. There are some newbies that are even more knowledgeable than higher rank members. If what you need is from the lower member rank then you are okay to take that advise. Because what you have looking for have been provided by a lower rank member.

There are two major things you most know in the forum, learning and educating. You are to learn and you are to educate. Therefore, you can give these two things at any level or rank. But in reality, high rank members give quality advise in most cases. Not all but many.

It's normal to see who are the members themselves, whether the members are exactly having good experiences and knowledge or not in this forum. Rank may not determine 100% that they are all good in anything here. But at least, members with high ranks, moreover the one that commonly ranks up with good merits will generally have good knowledge. I can see many members here that can rank up to the higher ranks up to Legendary because of their ability and knowledge. And there are many members like this. So, members with high ranks that got many merits may be different, they commonly have more knowledge. However, note that this doesn't mean similar applies to all high members. Many new members also have good knowledge and discussion (opinion/advice).

But once more, if this is about advice, we must consider several things.
- Don't see who gives you advice, whether it is a low member or high member, see the advice itself.
- If the advice makes sens and if the advice is reasonable and helpful, then the advice can be taken into consideration in deciding or taking action.
- Look for some advice and opinions that allow mutual support to strengthen the advice.

OP needs people's advice or suggestions, he can't advise himself!
No one is perfect, that's a fact. If OP knows everything, he won't ask for advice from others.

Sure, OP must take research. Not every advice or suggestion should be accepted. It depends on what OP needs to improve and what suggestion seems to fit with the OP's situation. Only OP really knows what he wants. Unfortunately, he didn't explain it clearly in the thread above. But I guess, it should be about how to get more merits, because it is the requirement for rank up. It mustn't be about using his funds in trading or investing since he told about high-low ranks in this forum.

Very funny question  ;D
Okay..... Yes, but to some point. it depends on who the high-ranked member is. People are ranking up, just like you're gonna rank up someday....so you should keep your head focus and stay on coast; it'll need your time and devotion, to mount, and make quality contributions then, you'll see..... You'll see the development overtime.

You don't really have to take forum advices from a jrn member as having a prior knowledge of the forum before joining is impossible, or is it? Only a user who has stayed long enough would know the pros and cons in HERE. BUT, as for technical advise, Yes but, to some point too. Yes because alot of users behind low-ranking accounts have virtually, a good technical background. Don't always forget to VET properly, any information you get on the net, from anyone.

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To be honest this is not the era of forum. There are so many bitcoin belivers outside there that do not belong to forums such as this. This is an era of social media, if you go to Twitter you will see many of then who doesn't know anything about this forum but they contribute hugely to the Bitcoin network. Some were also here initially but later left, most likely during 2018 spam war.
I am surprised how this forum is able to be sustained till today. That is why people always complain about the interface of this place and some can't help than to run to other social media.

Perhaps as a loose rule of thumb- folks tend to take advise from higher ranked members more to heart than those of lower ranks.  However, this should be taken with a grain of salt as some accounts have been bought, sold, and traded.

I might be in the wrong side of the Twitter at the moment, but yeah I believe you. Twitter is kind of toxic environment in my own side maybe because I was on the wrong side for now. You would never stop seeing bunch of arguments there over and over.

This forum will surely sustain if you would ask me. We might have social media sites for these, but this forum would remain legendary to a lot of people. Surely there would be more OG Bitcoiners here than in other social media platform.

Rank in the forum those not determine the knowledge of that person, it is only to show that you have always been contributed in the forum for a long time. There is a board that has the interest of forum members. A newbie can contribute  something meaningful than a legendary member in Economics board because he is well knowledgeable in that board. A legendary can contribute something meaningful than a newbie in bitcoin discussion because he is more knowledgeable than the newbie in that board.

In the forum you can get good answers from everybody,no matter the rank. Make research on your own to learn better,not all answers given here will be true

Perhaps as a rule of thumb people wait until there's a large number of answers to their question and sleep on it before deciding ;)

The beauty of a forum is anybody can chop in, a smart guy and an idiot.
How do you know a legendary member isn't an idiot?
He could've bought this account, could've hacked it.
Before the merit system was added you could've written only in off-topic and advanced in ranks.
Don't judge the book by its cover, at least wait for some reviews.

as I said before that you can't differentiate someone's knowledge based on the BTT account rank they have, many newbies and jr members also have extensive knowledge compared to legendary accounts.
but you should also be careful that there are also many low-ranking accounts that provide suggestions (make post) with plagiarism posts, keep filtering every suggestion you see and get, and don't swallow it so easily.

This is a "Yes" and "No" answer, if your advice you taking from a high rank member concerns forum etiquette then their is a 75% chance that it's correct. And because Ranks do not depict ones intelligence or know how on crypto issues this advice should be taken with a pinch of salt(caution) to avoid any misinformation, otherwise do you due diligence always.

 

I don't think rank should determine if you will listen to someone's advice on the forum or not, make sure you always focus on the quality of post and not the rank making the post. Let's assume you asked a question about cryptocurrency trading and a newbie answered the question, that those not mean the person is new to cryptocurrency trading, he might just be joining the forum but will have been in Cryptocurrency trading for long term, so if someone like that gives advice it might be more useful than a legend member that those not really know much about cryptocurrency trading. Some people are newbies or lower rank on forum but might have stayed long in Cryptocurrency.

There is one thing you just need to understand about this forum my friend. These ranks you see today do not just come on a plater of gold, but it have to be earn, which involve in two ways. First, through vital contribution to the growth and development of the forum. Second, Through time spent In the forum, because the higher the time spent on the forum, the more you get use to it's features, and ability to help others e.g lower rank members. So it's not an easy task

exactly mate yes you are right Op need some guidance and in additional as a newbie we must do our duty to be fair with newbie must guide or help himself or herself to be successful or rank up to the next rank which is self learning using search bottons and reading old replies is very helpful when you are studying here in forum. Then asking a question from older members then that's good points as newbies.

No doubt contributions do help you get through the ranks but time spent doesn't really can't much. As a matter of fact, one could be on the forum every other day, making comments with generic replies and still don't get to scale the ranks. In other scenarios, we can have someone who has been on the forum for a long time but still at a beginner rank. Time isn't much a factor here except we count it in terms of activities.

As a newbie or beginner on bitcointalk, you've got a lot of proving to yourself and the forum that you arr teachable and could teach others. You share Knowledge and helpful developments on the forum. It's a learn by discussion forum hence, you've got to show some participation while hoping for the best.

Every user will give you advice base I what they know, when it comes to things concerning the forum it's good to get knowledge from those who have experience already.
But when it comes to knowledge you can actually learn from both newbies and low rank members, everyone have what they can contribute and their are some high rank members which I have also come across which talks like newbies like me.

Well not all the time. Users could entirely be out of the forum and learning by their own and would have more experience than other users in here.  The forum is not the only source of knowledge, but it is a great platform to share experiences and ideas by the many just like Reddit.

I currently am learning programming and I am curious if thwre are way many more forums out there primarily for programmers and not just subs from Reddit.

In the world of knowledge, there is no distinction between the sources of counsel. Certain newcomers genuinely possess greater technical, financial, or other understanding than some members with higher positions. Remember that the forum cautions against relying solely on the information you find there and urges you to conduct independent research.
But when it comes to business, I believe you need to do that with forum regulars that have a good reputation. The simplest method to do that is to look at their track record for dealing with similar businesses and their trustworthiness.

It depends, but mostly yes, it depends on the situation. Confusing right? I know most of our first impression was the lower rank is not more serious than the higher rank, but there is still a lower rank that is knowledgeable (I think you can see a few since before I saw a couple of them, but they can easily rank up because they know crypto). Mostly here in the forum, there are still trolls of higher rank, but most of the higher rank is more serious and contributing here in forums. It is just like our work; there are higher and lower ranks. Mostly you listen to the higher rank, but if the lower rank will give a bright suggestion, then that is the best to follow.

I want to make one point clear here, when you talk about merits as a criterion for reputation or being knowledgeable may not be totally right. Because some members have tons of merit without any quality contribution to the discussion in this forum, I will do better with taking rank to be a sign of maturity in this forum reason being that, to attain a higher rank one needs to have passed through a lot of rigorous process and time to accumulate enough activities from their activities in the forum which will show in the quality of contribution such member write.
But if you talking about trust, one should know that we are in a trustless industry, bitcoin is trustless so one is always advised to do your own research.

This is what I will say to the OP, the forum is like a knowledge bank where each individual have access to information and the ability to make research to confirm the authenticity of the information given to you here depends solely on you. Ranks matters here because it shows how long and active a member has been in the forum here but when it comes to knowledge in the forum, this is my opinion, a junior member may be more knowledgeable about bitcoin before joining the forum than a member or senior member likewise a hero member and a legendary so it all depends on the individual's personal experience or knowledge.


Any member can advise you on the things to do or provide a solution to a particular problem regardless of rank but it is always advised that you make more research to be sure of what you are doing and also beware of scammers who may appear to assist you in getting things done easily.

I like your statement that this is a place where we get information with proof.
It doesn't really matter from whom the information is coming or who is giving the advice. Since the information or the advice would be made public everyone will be able to see it and ascertain which information is superior or useful than the other.
I will advise that you rather concentrate on the quality and content of the information or advice than the rank of the person that gave the information or advice.
Rank is how you have been while knowing is how well you know.