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Title: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Obari on October 31, 2022, 01:25:45 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.
Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: bitmover on October 31, 2022, 02:35:36 PM I'm still very new on this platform, but while learning through the forum, I try as much as possible to catch up with the activities of the forum, while sticking to the rules and regulations of the forum and avoiding plagiarism as this is one offense that seems as the most in the forum And I also hope my fellows, try as much as possible to avoid plagiarism and always reference what ever post gotten from any other source. There aren't so many rules here... I feel this as an open space. You can say whatever you want here, nobody will be censoring you. You can't just abuse the system: plagiarism, referral links, spam to bump posts, and things like that. Quote I've also read some topics advising newbies to avoid unnecessary show of membership relevance, as this very act alone leads to desperation, and anything done out of desperation mostly don't turn out very well and might lead to ban of one's account in the forum. I also read a comment, when a legendary member said "NEWBIES POST AS IF, THEY'LL BE PUNISHED IF THEY FAIL TO MAKE A POST." I felt that real hard because, I was a victim of this not until I understood that generally the forum activity count has been programmed to get just 14 posts in two weeks, which indirectly means we're only required to make just one quality post a day. So why the rush and pressure? I am have been in this forum for nearly 5 years on a dailyy basis and I don't agree. Newbie are welcome here. When I see a newbie asking a legit question, I always give them a merit. Because legit and honest users trying to learn crypto are welcome here. There is no pressure. If you are feeling pressure, you might be doing something wrong. Just read and post the truth and merits will come naturally. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 31, 2022, 02:54:58 PM OP, you can shorten your post to this quote.
Quote The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Do not think that the longer the post, the more it will be recognized. Starting to read your long text, not reading to the end, you can understand what you are getting at. Therefore, you notice that experienced people do not create huge tests that do not carry anything new, nevertheless, they surprise beginners with their merits. Most people just don't read long posts. Be short and concise. :) Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Obari on October 31, 2022, 03:58:52 PM OP, you can shorten your post to this quote. Quote The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Do not think that the longer the post, the more it will be recognized. Starting to read your long text, not reading to the end, you can understand what you are getting at. Therefore, you notice that experienced people do not create huge tests that do not carry anything new, nevertheless, they surprise beginners with their merits. Most people just don't read long posts. Be short and concise. :) Thank you so much for your kindy advice, and I have taken an immediate step to make the necessary correction. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: jackg on October 31, 2022, 05:15:14 PM It takes a while to get noticed round here as a newbie, it always has but I don't think that should be as discouraging as it seems to be for a lot of users. If you're around a lot and start to merge thoughts with the community, or offer insights to an alternative view then you'll start earning quite a few merits.
There's no point in being too high quality of a poster either, just make some good posts and make some contributions (quantity over quality to start with might be a good way to learn - however feels most comfortable is probably the easiest to do). Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Upgrade00 on October 31, 2022, 06:59:38 PM The pressure is mostly self inflicted by the user. I find it to be newer member who discuss merits more, giving tips on how to I get them and how not to.
There is a certain fascination with ranks, coins and privileges associated with those ranks, but that doesn't create any desperation, except the user already has one or develops one. The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Aptly said.Many people are introduced to the forum as a means of earning an income, and start chasing ways to rank up inorder to unlock the opportunities required, leading to spam and merit buying. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Dunamisx on October 31, 2022, 07:10:13 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group I fail to agree on this, bitcointalk is not like other online forums where you could discover alot of inappropriation and abuse of use there, bitcointalk is solely designed for discussions on bitcoin while other can centralized social media forums that can make new adjustment to their protocols and code of engagement in using their services. and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Your pursuit for bitcoin knowledge here is very important to consider because it is what makes your stay here worthwhile, there's actually no boarders to how far you can go in learning, only if you stay and remain committed to what you do with bitcoin and on bitcointalk forum. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: BlackHatCoiner on October 31, 2022, 07:29:29 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group You can't have an extra income from posting in every other online forum. You can't call the administrator an asshole without punishment in every other online forum. Every other online forum doesn't have sixty million written messages in its board. Bitcointalk is different. It has character. I still don't find the title very relevant. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Issa56 on October 31, 2022, 08:07:44 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Some people do join the forum with different mindset, some people join just because they want to make money but they fail to understand what the purpose of the forum is, Bitcointalk is a open forum where discussions about bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general is been done, when you are having problem you can share it on the forum and you will definitely get solution to your problem.Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. when you keep on making quality post and you keep on making contributions to people's posts then merit shouldn't be a problem, just make quality posts you will see someone that will like the post and it will be merited, but some people don't want to learn here, they just want to rank up so that they can join signature campaign and make money, which in the process of being desperate to rank up they will endup going against the forum rules and they will lose their account. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: nakamura12 on October 31, 2022, 08:17:16 PM Many people have done many things in this forum. It is correct that a forum or a group is like that where they share, ask, answer and more except this forum is kind of like that but it's also more than that which is explained by BlackHatCoiner and there's also rules either it's unofficial or official. Having rules will help us know which person who abused the forum by spamming, scamming, plagiarism +more (just check bitmover's explanation) and who doesn't. Let's say that this platform is best version of other forums out there.
Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Agbe on October 31, 2022, 08:39:55 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. OP, this your post is an irony on is own. This forum is to share ideas precisely on Bitcoin but not any how idea. Even the questions needed in forum is based on Bitcoin not like other social media groups that you asked shit and people would be praising you. Your answers and questions must be constructive from your brain not copy and paste.Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Yes we solved problems of Bitcoin related issues. What are they learning here? Of course Bitcoin and it elements, features and it characteristics. So comparing this forum with another social media groups is an error. If you don't know let me tell you, if you or anyone wants to be prosperous in life and in this forum is learning how to trade and invest on Bitcoin. I am an experienced professional teacher in the forum. In my understanding to you OP. The subject matter is like an opposite to the op. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Asiska02 on October 31, 2022, 08:42:06 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. This forum is quite distinct from others. You have so much freedom here that no one dares to criticize your judgment or position on a specific topic given as long as it does not violate the forum rules of deceiving people into some kind of phony or scam projects, others, etc. Your opinion on views is entitled to you only, even though necessary answer is given to a question being asked, you can still do your own research before coming to a conclusion about it. Quote Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. It is true that when you offer a solution to an issue posed in the forum, you are rewarded. But don't be disappointed if you're not rewarded after feeling you've just answered a question or contributed something excellent to the forum that should have been rewarded. The merit of a post is still determined by the reader's perspective on it and how it can benefit him or her in any way. Merit is always entitled to the reader's view. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Sanitough on October 31, 2022, 09:47:47 PM OP, you can shorten your post to this quote. Just go straight and direct to the point. After all, we don’t make good and quality posts just to earn merits, but most likely to discuss something and gives a clear idea about it so that others will also learn and benefit from it. Yes, the longer the post the more errors you make, so prefer short but precise so that the readers will easily get the point.Quote The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Do not think that the longer the post, the more it will be recognized. Starting to read your long text, not reading to the end, you can understand what you are getting at. Therefore, you notice that experienced people do not create huge tests that do not carry anything new, nevertheless, they surprise beginners with their merits. Most people just don't read long posts. Be short and concise. :) Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: The Cryptovator on October 31, 2022, 09:52:38 PM Yea, you shouldn't take unnecessary merit pressure since you earned a decent amount of merits. And if you keep contributing would get more. If we focused on posting quality rather than focus on merit, then we may earn merits and can make a decent forum as well. But those who are struggling only for merits definitely are taking unnecessary merit pressure. That's how can't be an established member here.
Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: kamvreto on October 31, 2022, 10:31:50 PM ~snip~There's no point in being too high quality of a poster either, just make some good posts and make some contributions (quantity over quality to start with might be a good way to learn - however feels most comfortable is probably the easiest to do). Making posts too high is like imposing quality that he really can't afford and in the end he just makes posts without any response because he can't discuss because he doesn't really understand what is being discussed. quite often come across newbie posters like this, where he just asks a question and then leaves. A good post is certainly not on how high the quality is, but judging on the benefits that will be generated, as well as the new knowledge that can be obtained. Contributions like this are certainly of higher quality and quantity, so there are discussions that provide solutions. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: hatshepsut93 on October 31, 2022, 11:37:20 PM The pressure to get merits is caused by desire to join well-paying sig campaigns, which require high rank. And this is a problem, because this forum shouldn't be treated as a job. There's no guarantee that sig campaigns will be a thing in the next year, or that this forum won't vanish suddenly. And after that, what would people who relied on sig campaigns do? There's no other forums that pay for crypto discussions as well as this forum does.
Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Oceat on October 31, 2022, 11:38:42 PM If you contribute a helpful topic in a thread even if you are a low rank or high ranking member you will earn that merit in no time. If your goal is to learn you should not be pressured by the merit system since it will come once you make an interesting topic that merit sources or even not a merit source members you will eventually get a merit.
If someone is pressured with the merit system then they are not here for knowledge and that says they are here for a different reasons. Just think about it if someone is getting pressure about it then it differs to their intentions from getting knowledge. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: qwertyup23 on October 31, 2022, 11:45:17 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Like what I previously mentioned to posts like these, there is nothing wrong with people looking for merits. The problem stems if a person completely focuses on merit too much to the point that they do more harm than good in the forum. Like what you also mentioned OP, focus on contribution and knowledge on the forum. If your focus is on contribution, then merits will be the by-product of your efforts. Instead of you chasing merits, merits would be the one chasing your account! Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Crypt0Gore on November 01, 2022, 06:27:31 AM The truth is always bitter
The reason why there is pressure on merit system is because some people are joining this forum to make money, some are referred by their friends but it's all about making money and the only way to get this up and running is by earning merits by all means possible, this is the truth that few people are going to ignore but I will say it anyway. I have seen a high rank member sending me a PM to send them merit and they will return the favour, if merit is nothing to take seriously why are they doing this? Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Obari on November 01, 2022, 08:48:34 AM ~snip~There's no point in being too high quality of a poster either, just make some good posts and make some contributions (quantity over quality to start with might be a good way to learn - however feels most comfortable is probably the easiest to do). Making posts too high is like imposing quality that he really can't afford and in the end he just makes posts without any response because he can't discuss because he doesn't really understand what is being discussed. quite often come across newbie posters like this, where he just asks a question and then leaves. A good post is certainly not on how high the quality is, but judging on the benefits that will be generated, as well as the new knowledge that can be obtained. Contributions like this are certainly of higher quality and quantity, so there are discussions that provide solutions. I do respond to discussions and questions on my topics if you ever get to take a time to check them. All my topics are on my watchlist and whenever a question is been raised without a answer from the forum members, I try my best to get the question answered. We're all here to learn and I'm sure learning everyday. Thanks @kamvreto, but I do monitor activities on my post Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: tranthidung on November 01, 2022, 10:39:20 AM Participating in the forum and being actively, you will be exposed with shit posters and high-quality posters. High quality posters include active users and inactive users - who left the forum or were dead.
To participate in discussions, you must have enough experience to know what are topics that are non-sense, for click bait and likely will be either deleted or moved to Off-topic board. You should differentiate between topics where you can join a good quality discussions and that is good if you are joining in a signature campaign. Your posts won't be trashed as good topics won't be moved to trash can. For more advice, please read Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0). I don't quote because I want you to explore it by yourself. If you don't spend a few minutes to explore it, you likely don't care about quality of posts and discussions. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: ultrloa on November 01, 2022, 10:57:55 AM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. No pressure for people who's not aftering something in return for posting some contents here, If they rush things because they want to earn on signature campaign then for sure they will be pressured for how hard to get those merits from other forum users. But if they enjoy this place and do what you said like helping each other to learn or be learn some information's about some interesting things for sure they forget about the pressure to rank up here. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: cryptoaddictchie on November 01, 2022, 11:21:18 AM Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Even without merits people should actually do these things. The only difference is that merits become an important parameter for signature campaign which users tend to farm or pressure themselve just to be able to do campaign that incentivized posting thru btc payment. I hope all doing their needed to do here without merits. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: isaac_clarke22 on November 01, 2022, 11:48:58 AM Problem is there are users that are treating/overthinking about merits too much like that is what they are going to put up to their resume.
If one is really pursued into joining SCs then sure, merits would be a problem/challenge for them, but we all know that this forum is not primarily an earning platform. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Adbitco on November 01, 2022, 11:55:10 AM One thing I understand about people is that they always thought of being Legendary over night without being worked for or even putting efforts to attain to that heights, I have seen many newbies asking questions of merits and ranking. In a normal sense they should always be active post and contributes to forum maybe any post that gots people attention will be merited.
So this shouldn't be a thing of pressure or being worried of getting ranked up without any valuable contributions. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Dunamisx on November 01, 2022, 06:24:48 PM The truth is always bitter The reason why there is pressure on merit system is because some people are joining this forum to make money, some are referred by their friends but it's all about making money and the only way to get this up and running is by earning merits by all means possible, this is the truth that few people are going to ignore but I will say it anyway. This may not be applicable to many members here because I've seen a number of users that have never intended to participate in any campaign no matter its kind, so were solely here to learn about bitcoin, secure their investment and make best moments out of members discussions from various board on bitcoin, while some came here because of gambling, politics, economics, local boards, adverts, promoting and the rest, so define your own purpose first. I have seen a high rank member sending me a PM to send them merit and they will return the favour, if merit is nothing to take seriously why are they doing this? Am not saying such does not exist but have you consider the rate or numbers of those involved, merit abuse in general is not what is been done here, though being a low quality poster or low rank member you may feel so, but i do say that learn what they are doing to get merit and see if you also wouldn't have some. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: harapan on November 01, 2022, 06:39:17 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group You can't have an extra income from posting in every other online forum. You can't call the administrator an asshole without punishment in every other online forum. Every other online forum doesn't have sixty million written messages in its board. Bitcointalk is different. It has character. I still don't find the title very relevant. I think the only thing they can do is spam around the gambling block and not get those post deleted, but you cannot spam and not get your post deleted, you cannot plagarised and get your account banned, you can not stop others from saying what they feel and expression of there self. Bitcointalk is far more different I agree with you about it. And how many does art contest almost every year Far better, life long friendship can also be maintained online on a privacy scale also. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 01, 2022, 09:34:44 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. This place is a wild community that shares the knowledge of cryptocurrency with individual research of cryptocurrency and been impacted to offspring or novice in cryptocurrency and basically in Bitcoin directly, so my experience in the community, here will update you of cryptocurrency, many people learn of Bitcoin through this community, the only thing that will make you to create or make quality post that will give you merit is through your observation.Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Vaculin on November 01, 2022, 09:43:41 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Just focus on learning and giving your best to make your post reliable and beneficial to others, that way earning merits will just come easily and unexpectedly. No need to pressure yourself about that as it will just happen once the people around you appreciate your post. So focus on making quality post and always make a post from your onhand experience, that way it will easily go straight to the heart of other members.Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Russlenat on November 01, 2022, 09:59:19 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Stay interactive and always present the best ideas as much as you can because that will create good learning particularly for newbies. And never let yourself think of instant profits first, instead acquire good knowledge and skills first before you think of earning profits. That way, your purpose in the forum will be achieved first before you set yourself into making good profits.Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 01, 2022, 10:36:12 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group Nope, it's certainly not like every other online forum. It has an edge on others. BTT is about the only forum where people read other's comments to learn and broaden their knowledge on cryptocurrency and then post (when they get to certain ranks) to earn money legitimately. No other fora (none that I know of anyway) pays you for comments you make on social media.No one is putting anyone on pressure to earn merits but the members themselves, especially if earning merits puts them in a better position for signature campaigns. Otherwise, it's advisable for members to just take their time and make posts that will aid others; not minding whether such posts get merited or not. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 01, 2022, 11:59:27 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Look, you're right but, I dunno how your subtitle relates with the content? Where the title creates an atmosphere in sensitive minds, to assimilate something Iike "what makes the pressure or how you'd advise peeps to surpass the pressure"? But the content says a different thing with an iota of resemblance or say -- uncordial relationship -- with the subject matter. Correct on that next time . Yes, everyone needs understand that nothing makes Bitcointalk really different from other media sites -- or maybe for some fringe benefits, attached to committed peeps in here ? The most important part is the 'learning and unlearning' process, as you said.... You'd only get to to realise, with time , that there's still alot more to learn ( and you felt way back that you're filled already, funny isn't it? ) So I'll advise anyone -- not Just newbies (cus it seems we're having alot of peeps Poppin up from higher ranks, whom I supposed they know alot in here , Poppin with questions so unimaginable that sometimes you'd have to check through the OP to see how they got merits for their ranks) -- to listen and learn from this. Sandra 💇 Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Darker45 on November 02, 2022, 03:05:55 AM Basically, that's just how it works. It sounds so simple. But it's actually not in reality because you have to do research more often than not. Well, if you're already knowledgeable, it is a lot easier to make a reply. You don't have to exert any further effort. But if you're not, then you really need to double check on your facts or information. That's the hard part.
Furthermore, even if you're only asking a question, sometimes you have to make sure you're question hasn't been asked and thoroughly discussed yet. Also, ranks and merits, although they automatically follow knowledgeable and constructive posts, are oftentimes pursued for their own sake, or perhaps the money that could come with them. So some are in a hurry to gain them resulting to stilted posts or threads that are obviously made for their sake. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Despairo on November 02, 2022, 04:30:17 AM Actually you're the one who create this topic for merit fishing purpose, why you're creating a post with Merit word on your thread? you're just trying to be different like doesn't care with merit but actually you're need it.
A genuine user who doesn't care with merit will not talking about merit in generic thread, they're focus to create technical thread or discuss about high quality topic about Bitcoin. It's really been a journey worth celebration. I've been so happy lately about the forum and my progress so far. It's been roughly a month I joined the forum and the growth has been an amazing one with the help of the forum members and the local board. After been introduced to the forum and consistent writing, I've really understood the fact that learning truly never ends. I never thought It would be any way this less difficult for me because I'm not the writing type I know it doesn't seem easy but one thing is sure, that nothing good comes easy as my journey has been so much amazing to me. A friend, introduced me to this forum and has proven his love to me beyond all doubts even without direct assistance on the forum but constantly reminding me why I joined and always show me a screenshot of the ranking system and what it take to attain a certain rank and the also the possibilities of earning while interacting with people and without him knowing, I've placed him in class of my destiny helpers, because I have stayed away from so much troubles and unnecessary expenses and debts as I'm always indoors trying to meet up my goals. I know my current level doesn't seem worths all this celebration to many, but to me it means alot to, as I'm not really a good writer, but I have been constantly reminded of the reward ahead and the only way to get it and that one of the best ways to stop bothering people is to write, which I try as much as possible to do even at midnights. God bless you my friend and if you get to see this post,please just know that, you own a special space in my heart forever. i want to announce my promotion toJR.MEMBER RANK as I also await my MEMBER RANKsoon. Please celebrate with me. Below is the link to my profile and to see my me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3504269 Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: UserU on November 02, 2022, 06:23:01 AM You can't have an extra income from posting in every other online forum. You can't call the administrator an asshole without punishment in every other online forum. Every other online forum doesn't have sixty million written messages in its board. Bitcointalk is different. It has character. I still don't find the title very relevant. Actually there's one that's still active which I won't name it. People are rewarded in points to post, which then can be redeemed for online cash or crypto but you can pretty much expect the quality of discussions there. Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: aoluain on November 02, 2022, 07:18:40 AM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group You can't have an extra income from posting in every other online forum. You can't call the administrator an asshole without punishment in every other online forum. Every other online forum doesn't have sixty million written messages in its board. Bitcointalk is different. It has character. I still don't find the title very relevant. The title is only relevant for newbies and the competition they think they are in to rang up in all sorts of ways just as Upgrade00 posted. It is totally unnecessary to be so focussed on the merit system, patience and taking the time to learn are important aspects to growing into the forum. it's true though that the forum is very different from others. We have to have the largest community online ?? Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: BlackHatCoiner on November 02, 2022, 08:34:27 AM Actually there's one that's still active which I won't name it. There are lots, not just one. But, every online forum does not pay posts. The title is only relevant for newbies and the competition they think they are in to rang up Newbies who're here just to rank up, are here just to earn some extra bucks, yeah. We have to have the largest community online ?? We're the largest SMF-based community, but not the largest Internet board. I think the largest one is Gaia Online. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Marykeller on November 02, 2022, 06:32:58 PM Nobody is pressuring anyone to earn merits. Merit does come when the post is good and reasonable. When you are focusing only on merits that's when it will be like the forum is unfair to you to rank up. Just be yourself in the forum and post when you have something good to say or ask.
Not all online forums can provide questions and answers with the way Btt does about crypto. We have the most talented, educated, influencers and the largest community of crypto members Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Hyphen(-) on November 02, 2022, 07:05:37 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. I've seen many forums, and many people have introduced me to some, but none are as unique as the Bitcointalk forum.Nonetheless, all of these forums were created for specific discussions, while others were created for general discussions; however, this forum is designed for Bitcoin-related discussions, and the way forum users are very active and willing to help and support anyone who comes to the forum asking for solutions makes the forum unique and user-friendly. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: BIT-BENDER on November 02, 2022, 07:36:27 PM Talking about an irrelevant pressure for merit can put more pressure about merit, the fact that so certain members after some merit or those who don't have at all talks about merit sounds like merit pressure to me, we are the product of what we think.
The merit pressure can die down if we stop raising it up regardless of the manner we try to raise it up, I would rather want to see talks about how newbies can improve/develop without any talks of merit in the post, definitely an improved Newbie or anyone would grow even in rank. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Wakate on November 02, 2022, 08:36:25 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Hmm, this sounds interesting and we'll know the necessary things we need to do to get merits. Once you keep writing good posts, you will surely keep getting merits because you worth it. Our major objectives is to contribute to the growth and give help to us that lack knowledge.Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. If we keep doing this, we shall be surprised of the merits that will be coming our way but that should not be and major reason of making contributions and helping the community grow. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Finestream on November 02, 2022, 09:30:11 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. No pressure for people who's not aftering something in return for posting some contents here, If they rush things because they want to earn on signature campaign then for sure they will be pressured for how hard to get those merits from other forum users. But if they enjoy this place and do what you said like helping each other to learn or be learn some information's about some interesting things for sure they forget about the pressure to rank up here. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Kasabus on November 02, 2022, 09:55:35 PM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn. I think that is more important to the forum, to learn from others, and others will also learn from you. It will be a good interaction learning activity where one could benefit from the others, and vice versa. And earning and saving some merits should only be next important to that. Otherwise, it’s hard to earn merits when you also fail in your role in the forum, that is becoming a better version of you because you are now well equipped with knowledge and skills, and that you can also be a good source for others to learn from you.Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: libert19 on November 03, 2022, 04:31:06 AM I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well.
Title: Re: THE UNNECESSARY PRESSURE FOR MERITS Post by: Obari on November 03, 2022, 06:40:07 AM The forum, is just like every other online forum or group You can't have an extra income from posting in every other online forum. You can't call the administrator an asshole without punishment in every other online forum. Every other online forum doesn't have sixty million written messages in its board. Bitcointalk is different. It has character. I still don't find the title very relevant. I think the only thing they can do is spam around the gambling block and not get those post deleted, but you cannot spam and not get your post deleted, you cannot plagarised and get your account banned, you can not stop others from saying what they feel and expression of there self. Bitcointalk is far more different I agree with you about it. And how many does art contest almost every year Far better, life long friendship can also be maintained online on a privacy scale also. Basically I'm a fresher over here and trying my possible best to always go with the flow and I truly appreciate your contributions. Thanks But my post was intended for my fellow fresher members like myself who find it difficult to write and also communicate via writing. I've seen so many old accounts still at the newbie rank and member rank and I've read some post of accounts getting banned as well, I've also read how people complain about ranking and most times, we don't intentionally do that. I've heard of the word plagiarism but never saw it in play not until I joined this forum The truth be told, it takes real patience and determination to read through and assimilate what was read in the rules and regulations and most times we still have good contents without merits and this also can discourage a user. The forum is unique but the pressures from my fellow fresher members isn't needed and that's what I'm preaching as what is basically needed in the forum is just to share your personal thoughts in every topic you have an idea on. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: lovesmayfamilis on November 03, 2022, 07:22:42 AM There are so many thematic forums. Everyone has their own direction, and the purpose of any forum is to discuss topics. Yes, the forum pays for posts, and this is why many who come here are tempted to quickly join the wave of privileges that the forum has, and this is why we see such topics. But the OP is not the first and not the last to create his own “guide” to exist on the forum. I'm sure he'll realize very soon that he's only annoying users by creating threads like this. Many are familiar with the purpose of creating such topics.
But as for the topic, other forums also have ranks and have their own privileges for higher ranks, but maybe there is no monetization. But in some forums there is access to information “not for everyone,” using which you can also get financial benefits. I think the purpose is communication first and everything else is nice, and I agree with the OP that the forum should be used for its intended purpose. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Findingnemo on November 03, 2022, 08:34:13 AM At some point it actually add pressure to anyone who lacks numbers in their merit column even though if they're not really interested in any financial benefits like signature campaign,etc still its been like a symbol of contribution so one with more may resembles as highly knowl so which makes the members who are just wanted to contribute in their own way may change their posting habits to get some more.
Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Adbitco on November 05, 2022, 06:44:39 AM I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well. I think the best to do is just living a free life here because whenever one trying to impress others for them to earn merits ending up not even gaining any but whenever you posted naturally without having the mind this post would generates merits could be the one to fetch you the merits. And from @OP I can't really compare this forum to be others, because this forum is far more educative and so far has all necessary information and documents that has to do with bitcoin and every other related cryptocurrency the have been existing today. So whenever one tends to overlook or underestimate this forum its get me worried somehow make me angry but not taking into mind. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: xSkylarx on November 05, 2022, 06:53:10 AM I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well. I think the best to do is just living a free life here because whenever one trying to impress others for them to earn merits ending up not even gaining any but whenever you posted naturally without having the mind this post would generates merits could be the one to fetch you the merits. And from @OP I can't really compare this forum to be others, because this forum is far more educative and so far has all necessary information and documents that has to do with bitcoin and every other related cryptocurrency the have been existing today. So whenever one tends to overlook or underestimate this forum its get me worried somehow make me angry but not taking into mind. Yeah, I just noticed that, mostly, when I really want to earn a merit, I will plan out my post and it will take me 30 minutes to an hour to construct my thoughts, but I end up getting hurt because no one will give me merit. I already made a couple of posts like that, but they still lack merit. Agree that let's just stay where we are and construct your replies like what you are so that we do not end up expecting something that we will not receive. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: GiftedMAN on November 05, 2022, 09:07:45 AM Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. OP, this is one unique thing about the forum here unlike other forums that I have had several experiences with, you get fast response to useful questions and a quick solution to the problems of any member here regardless of the rank of the member. I wouldn't say much about meriting a post because I see merit-giving as something that one really doesn't need to worry about all you need is to make useful contributions and provide useful information leading to solutions to other members' challenges and trust me you will not find it difficult to be merited but again I will say this to you, focus on getting knowledge if it is your reason of being here once you are knowledgeable other rewards will follow. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Peanutswar on November 05, 2022, 09:20:33 AM Some of the newbies hard to get notice because they are doing the everyday things. If you have unique skills that could be shared here in the community and also knowledge, most likely with the technicalities, there's a possibility higher that they will notify you immediately. If you think your content is deserved merit, we have some threads created by other members who are giving values to the unmerited quality post. I came from a newbie, and upon keeping learning here in the community and contributing all of my knowledge and skills, I got some merits as rewards.
Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pleasure of Merits Post by: DdmrDdmr on November 05, 2022, 01:54:56 PM <…> Multiple factors come into play here (content, novelty, expressivity, board, relevance, topic, etc.). The thing is though, one should not get frustrated or feel let down for not getting merited, but rather assume that, for the most, it’s going to be much more likelier not getting merited than the opposite. Take my profile for example, created a few weeks before the Merit System was set in motion. If I make a rough contrast of all my posts (10.978) vs the number of distinct merited posts I’ve got (2.974), my unmerited post ratio is 72,9%. Event for people who do get merited, one will still encounter that the unmerited posts ratio is high, regardless of the time/thought they’ve put into it. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Daniel91 on November 05, 2022, 02:35:35 PM Merits on this forum have become like some kind of holy grail, almost all new members are looking for them and begging to get them as if it is something that someone's life depends on. ;D
It seems to me that the fun has disappeared in this forum and almost every new member is looking for bounty campaigns or merits. I think new members should relax a bit, get to know the forum community, join interesting discussions, share their knowledge and experience and have fun along the way, after all, this is an online forum where you can meet people from all over the world. If you don't know what to write about, read other people's posts, read articles on the Internet and soon you will know enough to contribute to this forum. Merits? You will get them naturally, based on your work and investment, you don't have to worry about it at all. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 05, 2022, 02:56:00 PM Nobody is pressuring anyone to earn merits. In the real sense of it, only users pressure themselves to earn merit and it's because they want to rank up so they can get better reward with campaigns. What the forum pressures users on is how to make constructive posts devoid of spam. So, for the fact that it takes two to tango users have to be (seemingly) constructive to earn. I used "seemingly" and that's not loosely because I'm of the opinion that awarding merit on posts is subjective to whoever is sending it. It's not necessarily because those posts are constructive.Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Viscore on November 05, 2022, 09:59:17 PM Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post. Even without merits people should actually do these things. The only difference is that merits become an important parameter for signature campaign which users tend to farm or pressure themselve just to be able to do campaign that incentivized posting thru btc payment. I hope all doing their needed to do here without merits. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: KingsDen on November 05, 2022, 11:11:59 PM ...I'm sure he'll realize very soon that he's only annoying users by creating threads like this... Whenever I see a post of yours advising new users or telling them that they will realise soon how annoying their posts are to some old members, I'll feel you are indirectly referring to me ;D I was one of the newbies who were doing the right thing but always got bashed by you, while doing the right thing. Not until I got to certain rank and understood that what I thought was the very best was actually not good enough for others. It was then I realised the importance of activity count. A real newbie might have good crypto knowledge and within a short time will gather upto 500 merits, but if their activity isn't upto 250, there are surely many things they don't know about the forum. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: libert19 on November 06, 2022, 02:32:12 AM I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well. I think the best to do is just living a free life here because whenever one trying to impress others for them to earn merits ending up not even gaining any but whenever you posted naturally without having the mind this post would generates merits could be the one to fetch you the merits. And from @OP I can't really compare this forum to be others, because this forum is far more educative and so far has all necessary information and documents that has to do with bitcoin and every other related cryptocurrency the have been existing today. So whenever one tends to overlook or underestimate this forum its get me worried somehow make me angry but not taking into mind. Yeah, I just noticed that, mostly, when I really want to earn a merit, I will plan out my post and it will take me 30 minutes to an hour to construct my thoughts, but I end up getting hurt because no one will give me merit. I already made a couple of posts like that, but they still lack merit. Agree that let's just stay where we are and construct your replies like what you are so that we do not end up expecting something that we will not receive. Also, if you don't put much effort in first place you don't have much to be disappointed about (if you don't get merits) :P Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Issa56 on November 06, 2022, 07:19:23 AM Nobody is pressuring anyone to earn merits. Merit does come when the post is good and reasonable. When you are focusing only on merits that's when it will be like the forum is unfair to you to rank up. Just be yourself in the forum and post when you have something good to say or ask. Some people just focus on merit alone, they are desperate to get merit which at the end they always go against the forum rules by plagiarizing and they will get ban, if you are posting just because you want to make positive impact to the forum then am sure you won't plagiarize, because I see no reason why you will copy a post from somewhere and you won't add source link, you want forum members to think the post is written by you.Most people always create new posts just to receive merit but have seen lot's of people receiving merits from comments they make on the forum, just make sure you making meaningful contributions to the forum and you will definitely receive merits, don't be desperate to rank up. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: Luzin on November 06, 2022, 01:47:02 PM With or without merits, we should always stick to our goal and to the forum’s goal, and that is to create good contribution in the forum which will make the forum more alive and will always be a source of valid ideas and information that will bring a lot of benefits to all forum members. Otherwise, if we only care about the merits, then we might fail in the real purpose of the forum itself. So far, not many have thought about this issue. This is because their initial knowledge of bitcointalk is wrong. They just want to make money from Bitcointalk and rank up quickly to get more money. This is the problem of knowledge that we have to deal with. Because I also had wrong knowledge at the beginning, because of the orientation to money. But after walking I realized Bitcointalk is the most complete source of knowledge regarding crypto and related ones. I even gained a lot of knowledge that might be very expensive if cashed out. Regarding Merit I think naturally it is a motive. Merit makes us quality with our posts. And it is one of the things that makes Bitcointalk grow well now. Title: Re: The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits Post by: erep on November 06, 2022, 08:37:15 PM But after walking I realized Bitcointalk is the most complete source of knowledge regarding crypto and related ones. I even gained a lot of knowledge that might be very expensive if cashed out. Regarding Merit I think naturally it is a motive. Merit makes us quality with our posts. And it is one of the things that makes Bitcointalk grow well now. You are right, there is a lot of important knowledge being shared based on years of experience from other people and we get it for free in this forum without limited access, so we have to go back to the main point that the forum focuses on sources of knowledge about crypto and other related things. Lots of discussion threads to avoid hype from the market and it is my opinion that they have saved a lot of traders from huge losses due to being affected by the hype. So I don't have much opinion about merit because there are many quality posts that deserve appreciation, so back to each other's opinions about how you distribute merit in each post. |