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Im looking For good signals providers.
And Im ready to pay as long AS good signals.
Where Are those ?
Blockchain USA is good channel but recently not active.
When coin moves huge % then crypto could be full time income provider not just making income living but gives everyday enough money to live well.

I dont need your advice how dangerous those channels or groups are i know myself just Im looking For good pmpp channels. Yes they maybe buy b4 then give out signal i don't Care about that i'll make quick in quick out its still worth more then waiting like fool when btc start doing something Im here to make a lot money as possible with crypto dont really want to waste my days waiting for btc start doing something.

So tell me If you know any those Im looking For payed ones so i can be sure i get good one.tnx

You need signal channel? That is trading.

When coin move huge, that can be a full time income? That is investment.

If you want to invest, better just DCA right from now, you do not need any channel for that, crypto market is bearish now and would be followed by bull market.

For signal channels, I will still advice you to be wise, they do not care about your money, they care only about their pockets.

Dca is for longer time i need daily weekly monthly income i know there are some good channels.
Im looking For those people do make decent income with those signals.

Just as you are advised by that user, you need to be wise with most of the signal providers we have around especially the free signals there don't always gain when traded with and only a few of the paid signals give some form of profits and in most cases, the users only lose copying them or following their service.
But then we can still find some trading signals that still work.

Since you know how dangerous trading signal groups are and you don't need advice on how dangerous it is, then when you are scammed I hope you won't come and be posting here how you got scammed, i know you will have received enough private messages and they will have recommended groups for you to join, but I will still tell you to be very careful, avoid pump and dump coins because one day the coin will be dumped and nobody will pump it again, I don't believe in any signal groups, I believe most of them are just scam, they just want to take your money and they will just recommend a coin for you to buy without any analysis and after buying you will endup losing money again, which you will be losing money you paid for d trading signal and the money you used to trade.
I see no reason why you can't wait for bitcoin, just buy bitcoin and hold that's the only advice I will give you and that's the only signal I can give you.

Since you don't need some warnings on how dangerous they are and how aware you are that they will be active and will become inactive soon. I just wish you luck and you know what you're doing but still, if you have that sense that your payments won't be that worth it. Better to keep and save it.
I think I've seen some people that are high ranks have shared in some other threads about some signals group but they're not paid at all. Although IIRC, they've got those VIP treatments if you'll pay them. Kinda need of hard work to dig on those threads on this section.

Or the worst could still happen to you. Loosing all your funds to wrong signals before even the next bull market starts. Have you thought about that?

I am not trying to be negative, but I am quite certain you won't find any here, given that people know that most of these channels are scam.

I tend to agree with you and it might OP will change his mind and not proceed to seek a group of a signal channel.
Either paid or free signal group that you join, all of them have the same result, you'll become a victim from time to time and nothing will happen to you.  The ones who have benefits most are those people who organized the group which is they know how to play with it.

Stay away from these groups, instead, find your own strategy and sharpen your mind when it comes to trading skills and strategies.

Greediness will sometimes lead us to become worst and at least you know the downside of it.

Op i have seen that you are curious in search of signal provider, what i want you to understand is that you should change your speed of searching for signal group, because you might venture into signal group and after which and you end up losing, and your objectives will not come to reality. You guide yourself on how to interpret the movement of the candles sticks. Instead of been dependable on anyone signals that can mislead you via trading.

There's no good signal channels since no one will tell their secret to make profit in trading, so if you see someone give their signal for free or paid, it's scam or just a prediction without any analysis. This will trick many newbie since they think if they use trading signal, they will make profit without need to understand about trading. Actually trading is really need of experience, a good analysis still not enough since trader usually follow his emotional rather than his analysis.

A good signal channel cannot remain forever, they either stop become unreliable or inactive. Even if you get to find a good signal channel it will become unreliable and unsustainable in a short time. Sometimes you have to learn walk first before you can run, I notice that you are in a hurry to make money and you're willing to just jump straight to the money making part without passing through the process, that can pose a danger to you. If you habe the intentions to be a long term trader and benefit from trading, it is in you best interest to develop the skills yourself.

I found a lot of trading influencers in my region promoting their signal groups on tiktok last year. They openly show their trading portfolio without hesitation and often teach trading techniques. You can find out for yourself according to your region.
If you have to risk with a group like this, maybe this way is better than accepting an offer via random chat but don't know the trading performance or atleast basic skill of the person who runs the group

I don't Care If signal providers not with best attentions as long as coin is moving at least some 20% wich is normal in pmp then it all good i can place stop loss when price have moved and If coin price goes against my direction Im still in profit.
And nowdays everybody have learned how to read btc support resitance so AS longes btc stay on support we know pmp can go on If btc fall lower then local support then we know that might drop.
If signal coming out u do little reasearch you check where is the btc If btc Has a lot support Also then u enter in.
Some people really making full time income that way only.
Also u never go in full If you use leverage futures you entry in small % and when price moved Desired Direction u add little more Margin and u can adjust leverage step by step to higher.
That way you get the risk like you trade with lower Margin and lower leverage but your profit Will be big like you really use high marging high leverage.

That way really 200%-300% profit not Hard to make it.

And with 300$ each trade 300x2=600 few days 600$ profit its a over 1200 to 2000 monthly income off course If you use margin and leverage increasing step by step.

If we trade we want more money and better life than those who dont trade why ELSE people come in trading ?
We come here to be richer then average people.

So... Plz share good signals channels and whos Active channels Im here to make s...t loads of money becouse i like wall Street syaing,i create nothing but i own everything.

Try to look on Reddit then. Or Twitter. Lots of users (or maybe bots) are posting their signals there. As far as I'm aware nobody in this forum is that keen on a signal group, even if they use it they probably don't want to shill directly since their reputation might be affected if things go wrong.

My experience with them is not good either. Most of their calls never give me a profit and they'll protect their ass by saying things like "you are too slow on your trades" etc.

There are no signal channels using which you are guaranteed to get a profit. Similarly, there are no traders who do not have losing trades. It is for this reason that no one can tell you such signal channels. If you have heard about the existence of such, then you need to ask the name where you have heard about them.

You're looking for something that's pretty much nonexistent. Guess what — if I was some very successful trader, chances are, I'd use my knowledge for myself and profit from it, not share it with a good number of people for a couple hundred bucks.

In your first post on this forum, you claimed that you are a pro trader and have a "BIG short group" but now you are looking for a signal group? My God, I could not imagine that things could change so quickly.

If you have a telegram installed on your phone, you can try to browse or search the group using the keywords "crypto trade", "crypto trading", or something like that. I am sure you will get a bunch of channels telling you about the signal to buy daily or weekly. But I do not guarantee that you will get valid signal information. Perhaps, the signal is almost the same as the other groups.

The other suggestion is you can try to analyze by yourself, and no matter if you are not a pro trader, you can try to use RSI, MACD, and Bollinger Band to know where the price will go. If you can't trade for a specific time interval or target profit in a day, you can trade for a short term. For example, you should try to make a small percentage for taking a profit, but you do that continuously for a day. By doing that, you will get more profit.

These signals that you are talking about are made by good estimations and calculations. So you have two options OP, either you make yourself professional by studying that you make these good estimations and get good trades, or else just follow trading signals made by others. Practically the first option is really hard. I won’t recommend you any paid channels, but yes you can get good calls from twitter. Follow some veteran traders there, and buy as they tweet about some coins. This will surely give you some profits .

Sorry nobody will go through hard times to get a working plan and sell it to you, they rather will use it on themselves and continuously profit from the market but I tell you constant profit from the market is not possible, meaning you won't see such channel you are asking for. What you will see are triers, mistake and fair luck channels, they are looking for your money not profit from trade.

Do you have an idea on why the previous group that you are using suddenly became inactive? What if they are a scam and just steal the money of their subscribers? And what if all paid signal groups are like that? Because its really hard to believe that such thing works as no one can predict the movement of any coin and if there are people who have that ability, then I don't think they will still go out in public but they can just make money secretly.

My only advice for you op is that instead of wasting your money from those groups, why not use that money to make you help become a better trader? Buy good trading courses and then study it.

It was hard to get any of these signals from the forum but you can find a lot of recommendations online. Might that was you need.
If you understand why people here are not suggesting/recommending and that is because they don't want you to fall into the wrong signal groups that are flooder already in the market. But, you are making an urge to see it, hope you will get one and make a profit, but never turn as back talking and regretting why you do this.

To what I have witness with crypto trading signal is not what I should let anyone with his heart earning money to join any because you could be deceived to join any of them and at least they could throw a signal to buy a specific coin you went ahead buying and it happens they dump on you, at then you lost your fund to others, so even if you must join any crypto trading signal requires you to be extremely mindful otherwise you could be led to lost all your funds within the limited space of 1 months or so.

It is interesting that the OP knows already about the dangers following signals entails and yet they still want to follow signal groups, it seems they reject the idea of doing nothing during a bear market and this is why they want to get some signals, but this is a mistake, when the market is not really moving this is a great opportunity as you can take your time and learn how to trade on your own with very little risk, because the movements of bitcoin are way smaller than what we see  during a bull run and its subsequent crash, but to each their own I guess.

You won't get any here but if there is you'd just be DM'ed with lot of scams, try on telegram you'll get a lot of it but here in forum I'd like you to expect that you won't get any to repeat it. I give you one but this isn't the kind of signals you wanted but way more than that, it's more into learning and maybe you can start your own in the future. This is more legit than what you wanted that you'd be doing nothing then just trade. Here's the link https://intothecryptoverse.com/ or monitor this thread since some users give analysis here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0

It seems that you already know the risks you will face when using other people's trading signals but still decide to choose it. Unfortunately, we do not welcome that form here so it is not discussed or mentioned much here. I don't think anyone can advise you on this type of question.
I see these signal groups are advertised on Twitter a lot, if you want to find them, you can find them on Twitter. Or this might be the topic you're looking for, although it gets more objections than endorsements. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418027.0

It is not that simple as you think it is. Signals are only made to make the creator of that signal the winner. If you think that you will make profit only by copying the signals from other people, you are gravely mistaken.

We older members have seen the reality that newbies often look for such signal groups and hence scammers run these groups - they have fake membership fees and also fake signals to pump and dump their own coins.

This is how they make money. It is a disguised scam which you cannot understand from outside.

If you are really forcing it then go to Telegram. You cannot find it here in this forum.
In Telegram just join a known crypto group with chat enabled. Post it there about what you are looking for and I bet there will be tons of people that will DM you.
But, you will not know who is legitimate or not, so it's all on you.
Signals are not something you can find in plain view, if they grow in members it won't be as profitable anymore while they are manipulating one crypto market.

That is the thing I worried about because despite how many topics/threads were created to warn people from using this kind of service, many are still coming and asking for it. It is just like it was ignored and it is not wondering why many people still fall into scams because in the first place they already want it to happen to them. It was not it talks about the risk but it is how these people think about scams is just hearsay. Now, if OP could change his mind and do listen carefully what the majority are saying, he is not just saves his money from losing but it serves as a lesson to others as well.

I know nobody will recommend any of those trading signals for the OP, because must of them are scam, if the OP is looking for signal groups then he should visit Telegram, am sure he will get what he is looking for their at his own risk, and nobody will be blamed if he get scammed because I don't know why most people are just looking for easy way to make money, which you know that your money is at risk.
The OP already warned everyone not to advice him on how dangerous all those trading signals are, so I believe the OP won't listen to any advice given, and he knows the risk he is taking by joining any trading signal groups. I hope you will be trading with the amount you can afford to lose after joining any trading signal group.

He understand the risk of joining any signal group and honestly I’m also wondering if there’s a group who are being honest with their signals, probably you can see that online or in Youtube, you just need to be very careful though. Choosing the right group will play a big role, and while looking for it better to start learning on your own as well so when the time comes, you don’t have to join any signal anymore because you know how to trade.

^Educating yourself and technically learning how to predict the market price will be the best answer you don't need to find a group and rely on them with your trading. None of them accurately give the right prediction, and most of them are guessing about the market condition, if they can do that, there is no reason you cannot this too. It is very popular now that signal group channels are turned into scams, they fool members to have their own benefits. So why you look after them if you know technically how to guess the market price?

You dont really need a group since you could really make yourself that able to handle this market on your own via own speculations and analysis.Come to mind off that those people who do offer their signals do simply do

give out their speculations too, which it would be no sense that you are paying on something which you could actually make your own which means its just a waste of time and money of yours.

Better to create your own and trying out to handle yourself without the help of others.You would really be making yourself a good trader if you do really have this kind
of mindset and behavior.

As stated in OP, he is not interested on any advices since he knows how risky this is, probably he is more greedy to earn more and thought that signal group can be an easy way for that, he is also willing to pay some fees though.

I'm not familiar with any group signal since I'm not trying to join any because of it's risk and since I also have the knowledge about trading but if OP insist, some user here claimed that they are managing a signal group, I just can't find its thread but I'm sure its on services.

There are signal group you can join on telegram free for you to test them if the VIP would really make sense.  Sometimes when you join a signal group, it will be better for you to join the ordinary signal group to test if they have a good predictions about pump and dump coins projects that will really give a better profits before subscribing to there VIP later. Sometimes there is no guarantee that you will keep making constant profits from the group. They might give a call about a coin and the coin end up not pumping well, affecting you if you do not quickly leave the trade.

That is a big big risk. I mean if they are searching online for a signal group then they could face something that could be good, or they could face something that is a scammer and they may not know how it is.

Since bitcointalk is a fair place, people could share their signal groups here and if they really trust themselves they would share some examples beforehand, and if they are good then people would join, and after people join then customers who joined could come here and could vouch for it or not. This is why bitcointalk is so important, if there are a lot of legendary accounts saying a group is good, there is a high chance it's actually good.

Scammer are smarter than some people, that is how they scam others. We have to realize that all the rich people in the world are not super smart people. Some are just lucky, some are just working in a field that is deemed "not worthy" like cleaning sewer or something, which pay very well, but you clean a whole cities sh-t basically, there are also people who inherited and many other things as well.

All in all, we are talking about something that is dangerously easy because these type of rich people could be scammed easily. However, there are also very smart people who got scammed too, look at Bernie Madoff, he scammed the elite and in tens of billions level too.

If you dont need anybody to tell you how dangerous this pump signals are because you already know, then there is absolutely no need asking here, you should just head over to telegram and search for "crypto signals" or "crypto Pump groups", i believe you will get over a million results, the only problem would be " which to choose and which to leave, cus they are to many of them".
But let me tell you something, 99 percent of this groups are scam, better learn how to trade on your own and dont depend on signal groups, you might be lucky enough to make some money for a while, but when the bad luck hits you, you will loose everything and not have a single penny to show for your years of hardwork following signal groups. 

Many of those who waited are all millionaires today, you that have been doing quick in, quick out, how much have you made so far ?
Beside, there are several other good altcoins to invest/DCA in if you feel bitcoin is too slow in doing something (as you put it), or better still, learn to trade and stop depending on pump and dump as a way to make money.

Sorry but the majority here considered signal groups and channels as crappy groups.

Since you don't welcome the advice of others about how risky these groups are, then maybe you are in the wrong place to ask that question.

Go on some shillers group and ask questions there. That kind of group doesn't have a good reputation here.

Is trading signal that is paid or VIP really profitable? Does this really work? I have join it at the past but I could make good profits. However, I think that it is because I personally didn't have good knowledge and also basic analysis of the trading indicators themselves. We understood that although we are using paid trading signal, we must also be able to understand to analyse the trading indicators very well, understand how to  analyze the market codnition and the ways to avoid losses.

Don't be arrogant. Don't think that most people here will just give you what you want without precautions and good advice. If that's your demand, don't seek any help here about that because no one believes here in the group or channels providing a signal.

Something like that doesn't exist. There's no way a signal can be predicted providing how heavy the volatility in the crypto-market is.

They are just milking money for their subscribers and seems you are willing to just give free money to them.

It is his own choice if he will follow these signal channels but he should accept the fact that no one can give him the right channel he's looking for.
If there's any, a lot will be recommending it to other people. But unfortunately, with those large number of channels dedicating to this kind of service,
no one is known to have a very good signals shared to its subscribers. Most are good in providing signals a lil bit late than the supposedly target.
That is because, only the owners of these channels are mostly benefiting their signals. Leaving its subscribers screwed because of holding worthless coins.

If we think about it this is just common sense, if such a signals group existed and we could verify their claims they can actually produce profits for those which subscribe, it would be to be expected that a great part of the community was already part of such channel long time ago, but since this is not what we see then it is fair to conclude such a channel does not exist and anyone actually looking for a signal channel like that will eventually be disappointed by the results they will get.

I know ITS risky, but i rather trade with 20% pmp or dmp with 20x-40x leverage futures then waiting for btc or other top coins to make their 5% move in average 24h time duration.
Im here for in crypto for money for income not for becouse i understood crypto or Im interested about crypto only i see IS the profit i make daily out If crypto

We get that you "rather" do that, but you are rafering something that is terribly dangerous and shouldn't do that. I understand that some people like to take more risks, and that’s fine, nobody could stop you and you should do whatever you want to do. But that doesn't mean that you have the right to do something that is risky to a fault.

Taking "some" risk when you are trading would be fine, but that doesn't mean that you should be taking risks that are useless. Calculate the profit possibility and the risk possibility and if the risk is too much and the profit is not, that would not be possibly a good thing and shouldn't be really your aim.

For a few exceptions, basically what signal channels and groups do is to make calls on certain unknown shitcoins and then watch the mad rush to place orders by people who should know better but don't care. That's why after the pump most of those tokens die off. There's no use case for them. It's interesting to know that the owners of those channels commonsensically buy in first before the rest of the followers get in. Let no man deceive you again. BTW, it's obvious that there's no accuracy of prediction when it comes to trading.

And if you want to do that then you can do so as we cannot force you to not do it, however why put your hopes on signal groups? If you want to use that much leverage you can do this by yourself, take your time to learn how to trade, after all it is not like you are missing a bull market right now with the price going down due to the situation of FTX, and then once you know how to do this then you will never have to depend on signal groups in order to produce profits.

I have always respected many of the people who decide to go by the signs, it is something that one cannot fight against, but it seems to me that those who pay to be given the signs are much more foolish, because on top of that, the Most of the people who give signals only do technical analysis and technical analysis is not everything, it can help, but what helps the most is the knowledge and understanding that you have about the market, you can be the best technical analyst, but if It does not know what the real situation of the market is, it cannot give exactly what is the best option, because it is proven in some books that the technical analysis fails, and the fundamental analysis also fails, only the combination of both can work.

Getting acquainted with trading will be one of the best thing that all traders wish for. There are few trading signals that are 70-80% accurate in trading, using signals doesn't prevent you from losing, rather it reduces the level of loss. Following top influencers in the market, also grants easy access to know when there will be dump and pump in the market. Getting the best knowledge on your own is good, good tips on trading and complex PDF also beneficial to traders.

It is stupid to use signals in trading, and even worse when a person decides to buy these signals. They are sold by people just like you, maybe they are a little better than you in technical analyzes, but this does not mean anything, because everyone is wrong. Instead of wasting money on buying signals that still won't bring the desired result, invest that money in your education.

I joined a signal channel in a telegram in 2021 when it was a bull market. At that time all the signal that the channel provide was correct, and it seems they know the future. As soon as the bear market start their signal was like total crap and they have no idea what is going to happen. So joining a paid channel in this market condition won't get you anything but some bad signal.

Wait for the market to recover before starting trading again.

When I started trading, this was the first thing I did since there are a lot of free signal groups in Telegram. At first, when the signals are good, you will win the trade, but when you get used to it later on and when you lose a trade, you start blaming others, and I just realized that signals, even if they are paid, they are not a guarantee that your trades will win. Also, if you ask this in the forum, they will probably say try learn and start to make your own strategy to win trades, as they won't recommend these trading signals.

Trading signals are raising to turn out fake and inaccurate for traders to use, I know of a couple of friends that uses signals but are always complaining or caught up in big loss. Painful to paid for signals monthly and still record liquidation in the futures trading account. I've back out of trading signals and investing my time learning both the TA and FA, I have improved in the past months and I will stop at nothing till I achieved my target. It requires enough time and consistency learning the process, there's a quote that says, "you learn before you earn"

The experience you get from the signal group you joined before is also a great way to learn. at least you get trading experience. it becomes more information-related techniques for trading.
now you have left the group and you can start your analysis for futures trading. however, market conditions are not supportive. what is predicted is mostly inaccurate. this makes losses experienced by some traders who are desperate to trade in difficult market conditions.
I prefer groups that don't just give raw signals. but a group that provides education regarding how to analyze and trade would be great.

There are some good signal Channels but there is no perfect Channel either, all Channels make bad signals and you go Into loss , but there is full supportive Channels that are very active in providing any help,  they actively update signal what to do with them so on, there are free signal Channels do the same but sell indicators and so on.

Example how it works on 15 min chart showed when to short

https://ibb.co/8m4m80x

I still see that OP wanted to push himself and is willing to take risks. Indeed it was his choice and we don't have control over it.
Well, just to be aware that signals groups are mostly scams, it really makes you lose in the long run in partnerships. Honestly, many people fall into these scam tricks, might those people are fallen into the wrong groups but can be possible it happen to you personally OP. So, before trusting any of them make sure you have also done a background check. Goodluck...

True. I and some of my friends have also been victims of such signal group scams. Joining this type of group not only lost money on joining fee but also lost my trading balance. Because they give random signals, out of which few signals are successful. The way they give such signals can be given by a new crypto trader with no experience. Because they will only pass on the signal and if you make a loss they have no loss because you have paid a one time joining fee. So Op should read everyone's comments and then decide, everyone here is giving him good advice. Due to this, most of the traders here have been victims of the scams of these type of trading signal groups in various ways.

His choice is that he considers a group of signals to be the easiest solution to get a profit. And for this, as it seems to him, it is not necessary to study the basics of trading in order to make an independent decision about opening or closing a position. And only after the OP himself realizes that no one can guarantee to provide accurate signals, he will engage in self-study.

  - You are looking for something to kill yourself and you don't care if you lose the capital you have, there are many people offering trading signals on telegram channels, I am sure they will compete with you there, probably when they find out that you are interested in such aspect is like food that you will fight over it.

The only thing I can tell you is that there are no good trading channels in this era that will give you a good income, I don't believe in that matter, to be honest, so good luck to you, I won't tell you to be careful in what you do entering the trading signal, because I know you know what you're getting into.

I've seen a lot of comments here that make sense. But they should also be taken with a pinch of salt as they are based of that persons experience. The reason you're unlikely to find a successful signals channel is that if everyone and their dog is doing the same analysis, there is little or no alpha to be gained. It will be hit and miss. The best way is to learn methods by yourself or get lucky finding an analyst that is under the radar. Most of the well known channels and analysts about, are popular because they promise nonsense or know how to play with investors emotions.

It has taken me 2 years of study to get to the point where i feel like i have the market figured out. Probably 5000 hours of failure, frustration, and wasted money in some cases.

I have created my own model that works in real time. No one on twitter seems interested. Like i said, clickbait thumbnails and engagement is going to lead to choosing bad analysts and signals.

Heres my model if you want a look

https://twitter.com/bitcoindata21/status/1595160282472796162/photo/1

There is no fair trading signal channel that is certain that there is manipulation in it that the admin as the owner of the signal can move, so stay away from this even if someone offers it temptingly, they are definitely trapping their victims.

One good thing in trading is improving our own skills and doing it while not being dependent on other people, of course that experience will make us better and continue to improve in terms of patterns that must be applied including indicators, looking at charts, looking at fundamentals and we can learn from it all as long as we ourselves do it not someone else.

So no good advice for those who want to trade but still rely on channel trading signals.

Quick bucks? It's pretty hard to earn quick bucks in this kind of market scenario. There are so many pump channels that is active last bull market and I don't think you can find a reliable pump channels now or even signal channels that has a high accuracy signals. Just like what other tells you; If you don't have the skills to trade, It would be better to just do DCA than finding pump channels. Please do understand that there so many scam pump channels out there and will possibly take advantage of you. Then I can suggest NO pump channels since there aren't any good one.

At these time most of the trading channels are setup solely for the purpose of making fool of people and gaining profits from them so the best advice is to stay away from them as much possible.They will suggest you some shitcoins with temporary pump they are influencing and after the investment they will cash out profits leaving you all in loss and will say it was fast move.Not good for trading purpose so best is to learn yourself with experience.

Recently I have seen many promoting crypto signal channels, but to be honest I would not recommend it, the course of what is happening worldwide is very diverse, the fundamentals can be generated from nothing, so it is very difficult to operate for now, I think that one of the ways that can be done is to try other markets, maybe forex, stock market that are a little more stable markets that have a consolidated volume and that the volatility is not as high as in the case of Bitcoin and the highs, which which is unpredictable what movement can happen, this also has a lot to do with the tastes of the person if he decides to make movements in the market or wait with bitcoin until it rises.

Honestly, I mean there's no other way to explain it better than that. Wish I had merit to splash on your comment. Those who rely on signals are simply saying there are folks who can accurately tell them the future and that's not possible. At best, those who supply signals either are Technical Analysts or Fundamental Analysts. Both are speculations. While TA is reading charts, FA relays heavily on news. Reading charts is speculative. There's no assurance in speculation.

This just popped into my mind: I remember before I saw someone selling lucky lottery numbers, and I was shocked that many people purchased them. This same thing applies to those who own trading signals. I saw a lot of this, where it needs to be paid before you can join. Imagine if they already say that they can accurately predict the future so that we can trigger that trade. Then why are they still doing this? For example, why are they promoting joining their group and paying this amount if they can already profit from the trades they already predicted? So it is pretty useless, no matter where I see it.

These kind of groups should have bad reputation everywhere and not just they forum, they're just scam and not worth recommending to anyone, I haven't seen anyone that comes out openly to praise this groups of been very profitable for them in a long run
All I see online are just paid testimony from newbies or just those of the group creators with referral links looking for those that'll fall for their scams. Nobody can predict the market accurately so why trust someone that says he can.
All they just do is to pump a specific coin for a very short period just to dump it on others. The late comers are always the ones that buy the pump coins and even though you are always among the early buyers, you can't be that lucky always and when you become a victim, you might even lose all your profit and capital so this group should be avoided.

I also noticed the same thing. If a signal group would be popular with their accurate speculations then legit subscribers will testify for them and they will be known and recommended for their crypto signals but none of those groups could last long. They're just being hyped by fake accounts just to attract more subscribers for them to earn more money. If you want to know how the market moves, you better learn ways to predict how the market moves than relying on trading channels. You will just waste your money on them.

I understand what you are trying to do with your life OP, you want instant returns and you had thought that these signal groups can make it possible. But first, you also understand the fact that you are looking for groups that will just take your money out of you without giving you back. It wasn't acceptable as I per see but you have to listen to what these experienced traders tell you, not just believe yourself or any of these signal groups.
But okay, do what you want so you can also tell us what is your experience.

But of course, that goes to simply show they're signal marketers and not traders. Most of those people don't even trade in the real sense of trading. There was one I confronted on telegram. The dude was fond of supplying signals which have slightly passed or filled. Truth is that real traders don't have the luxury of time to be running telegram groups at the same time trading. The best a professional trader may do is dish out signals to those under their referrals once in a while. They hardly charge anyone for this because they know it's pittance.

I haven't seen professional traders advertise a telegram group to join their signals. Those professional traders are just wasting their time managing telegrams for trading signals; instead of doing this, they will just read books or learn more about trading. I don't see many professional traders on Telegram, though I do notice some in copy trading because once they've been copied, they can still earn money even if they're just trading on their own; it's a side hustle while trading.

That's what they claim they're and that's what makes gullible traders flock to them. They're deceivers, wolves in sheep's clothing. Of course, if they said they're signal marketers from the beginning nobody would pay them any attention.

That's the way those who truly know their onions do it. They allow others mirror their trades and get charged for it. It doesn't cost them extra efforts once they've it set up. The only thing it costs them is lost of patronage if their trades aren't doing well.

That's true and the fake accounts are very obvious because if you review the accounts you'll noticed they have low activities and most of their tweets or posts are always about shillings.
One thing you'll notice about this signals group is, they're very common during the bull market but go silent in the bear market, that's because in the bear market they can't get users because all the market is decreasing but when we're in a bull market, they can easily pump any projects and dump.
Any channel that makes pump calls can make you lose all your money as they aren't always as experience in the market as you think, they just living off the hype of their community to pump shitcoins.

Copy trading for a professional trader will be more preferable than a group with trading signals, since it does not require additional work related to the publication of trading signals. In this case, the trader will receive additional income, which can be regarded as passive.

If im a professional trader then i wont really make myself wasting up my time on spending up on handling people to follow up my trades just for pennies.If you are really that making money on sustaining way.

Then do you really consider out on spending up your time with this venture if you could make out huge money on your own?

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Going back on topic which copy trading or joining up in groups just for the sake of signal is never been that recommended for you to rely on but if you are trying out to
look for these things for the sake of getting ideas and awareness then it wont really be that bad.

The only purpose of the OP is to receive a trading signal that is guaranteed to increase his deposit. It is obvious that he does not want to listen to advice here that such signals carry great risks for members of such groups. And until he loses his money several times, and possibly his entire deposit, he will believe in the existence of such signals.

Op Everyone will want to get involved with solid crypto signals if truly one exist, in my opinion. But due to fake Telegram crypto signal created by scammers and dangerous it is that why everybody is avoiding it. As for me, I wouldn't consider adhering to any Telegram channel signals because I think they are all phony.

However, if someone introduces you to a Telegram crypto signal and claims it is legitimate and trustworthy when you are desperate to receive one, you will undoubtedly run the risk of falling victim to a scam. Op don't risk your money by searching for a good signal; you will simply scam. I believe you have money that is not currently beneficial to you, therefore it will be preferable for you to invest in Bitcoin, especially with this bear market, and leave for some time, believe you will surely appreciate later.

OP, you are putting yourself at high risk and possibly losing your money.
These signals are just speculation, even an inexperienced trader can do that as well. Don't ever believe that these signal groups will help you make a profit because many traders can verify their bad experiences from them, they are somehow just taking their money.

Don't get fooled but their promises, they can lie for the sake of money. They can lie just to get your trust but in the end, they will leave you.

Yes, that's right, it is better for any investor or trader not to rely on these signals, as they do not guarantee that you will achieve profits through them. I wonder for those who promote their channels on Telegram that they can post signals that enable anyone to turn 1000 dollars into a million? This is unbelievable, so if they are honest, why did they not achieve these profits themselves through their signals, and why do they take monthly subscriptions from the channel's members? These are nothing but scammers who target beginners to lure them and deceive them into getting rich quickly. Therefore, I never recommend free or paid signal channels. You can do it by yourself, just learn from reliable sources and gain experience.

There are no good channels Trust me, a lot of them might help you make some money in the short term but eventually you'll see them posting results but actually you are never  making money. These channels won't provide you with right signals at the right time and also they won't provide you with any guidance on risk management and position size management, you'll never be able to make Money until you learn these 2 arts as well.

Well I have read this thread on every page until the 5th page, seems all of them saying that signal channels are not safe and most commonly they are becomes a scam and victimized members at the end based on their history. So what we are looking for --if we are putting our assets at a high risk that possibly becomes a scam, we already know the consequences and it is not on the good side. Instead of wasting money, why not try to make your own analysis and make your own signals?

They said the truth, in reality almost all signal channels aren't safe.
I ever joined a paid signal channel, but I never follow it again since most of the signals don't work.

I conclude that most signal channels mislead the users/members. They utilize the members to help "dump or pump" a certain coin, or they only share signals when it is already late to make an entry (buy).

You are right, it is better to make own research or own analysis. This should be more effective as we consider varied factors, and we don't regret if it fails because it is our own efforts. And this makes us smarter and more diligent to learn, since we rely on our knowledge + experience to succeed.

Honestly people making us fool and they want to get profit but we get lose they show that they are expert in trading and we give them $ in every month for gaining signal but actually they making us fool. We should to learn analyse the graph and we can trading .Trading is good thing if we have knowledge and if we take risk we can earn more.

They are not making us fool, they are scamming those newbies, they are scammers, and they are not trading experts; as real trading expert, they need more time to manage the telegram channel. There are a lot of professional traders that going to mentor you for free as long as he/she can see your potential on you. I have friends who tend to help their other friends in trading for free but only in their free time. Stay away from those trading signals, as it is useless.

There is no 100% correct signal mostly they are not accurate according to my experience as I tried to join before a paid signal in telegram yeah you can easily get an idea from this signal but you need to validate it yourself if this is really possible, for I now I only trust one where I can get really good signal as he is using Elliot wave analysis so far looks like 80% accurate, You can pm me if you are interested to join as of now Im only using limited and free signal from him.   

I could assume that 80% accurate is really good enough to make a good trade. But wondering why many traders had failed even though they are joining these signals. This means that all of these signals are not giving any assurance, not even if it was said it is 80% accurate because that 20% left is huge enough to affect the results.

That is why I don't trust signals, not only because they are meant to fail but also because these signals can lead you to lose.

a channel or group of trading signals on average only benefits the channel owner.
maybe the initial join he give guarantee for free but after that few months they will ask us to pay monthly. and as the crowd grew, he would raise monthly payments but with disproportionate results.
I have seen cases when many newbies wanting to join trading and not knowing their trade analysis were looking for a shortcut to join channel trading signals

very true, that there is no signal that is 100% correct so that the 80% chance you say still has a 20% chance of being wrong.
but even though the 20% chance of loss is like 90% as you said above.
and for me actually the best opportunity analysis is only in the person himself. if indeed someone wants to start trading but he is able to learn first before starting, I'm sure they will have a better chance than following the trading signals on the telegram channel

You’re right that every trader should work on developing their skills. But for those who just want to rely on others, I think they should prefer copy trading over trading signals.
The reason I am saying this is because we can’t verify if the signal provider is actually making profits on a real account or if he is even successful. Second, signals can tell you an entry point, exit point or maybe where to place your stop loss but it don’t take into account your position size which plays a very crucial role in the trading outcome. But copy trading services are more reliable for the fact that everything is transparent and visible to you. There is a track record which can’t be tempered, at least if the trading platform is strictly regulated like on zulutrade or eToro. The biggest benefit is it takes minimal effort; you don’t have to worry about losing the opportunity if you are late in implementing the signal on your account as copy trading is an automated process.

WhaleAlerts is a telegram channel with automated signals from their charts (Whaleportal.com) (Bitcoin/Crypto derivative data)

Analyzing and giving our own signals also does not guarantee that we will make the proper judgment and may cause us to lose but in return, we will learn more knowledge and draw lessons no one can teach us. Both carry the risk of losing money, but if we trade by ourselves, we will be able to become professional traders without having to depend on anyone. When we lose money but in return we gain knowledge and experience, it is not called a loss but an investment.

Why give those signals to someone anyway, just keep them for yourself when you need to trade and observe how correct your prediction was in the long run. In case you are making good predictions, well and good but sharing these with someone else makes it appear that you are some Nostradamus which you are not. This was how the concept of "selling signals" came in with a number of scammers understanding a similar thing like fortune telling could be done with speculative markets and thus the current scenario.

Mostly the newbies are the ones who fall for these scams but this leads to loss of the young blood who could actually make money from proper crypto trading.