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Title: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: libert19 on November 10, 2022, 09:48:09 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.



Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Teraboy on November 10, 2022, 11:41:13 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.
It doesn't seem to be true at all. As long as FUD was not real and market will be eventually recover but once FUD becomes real then market gets hurting so hard. Only assets that didn't have direct affiliation with the thing that got FUD would eventually recover from the bottom.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.
Yeah, picking right assets who got pushed down due to the panic sell that happened with market.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: blockman on November 10, 2022, 11:50:58 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.
Definitely, and that's why when there is bad news that is coming ahead. We already have a clue of what's waiting ahead and we have to be ready when that's seen.
I honestly thought that FUD won't affect the market anymore because in the past, it didn't work or it's just because we went through the bull run and those didn't work.
But this time, most of these FUD is really something else and they're bigger than before and that's why it's moving everyone even the ones who's been staying long in the market.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: ultrloa on November 10, 2022, 11:57:09 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.



Great things will come ahead with it since those big institutions soon will catch those knife falling so we need to prepare so that we can ride the accumulation stage. If we miss this golden opportunity to buy while market is so cheap then provably we will regret for another time again.

 This crashes just been fueled up by manipulators so we need to be calm so that we can think about our next move to prepare on recovery stage.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: agustina2 on November 10, 2022, 11:59:36 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.

Looking at past historical performance, FUD always plays a big role in market crashes.

If a FUD is successfully executed, it can trigger the domino effect and will result in continuous bearish performance.

No choice but to try to withstand it no matter what. After all, it's not that bear trend will lasted fo long.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Wexnident on November 11, 2022, 01:29:11 AM
Crashes are always caused by some sort of FUD imo, it's brought by panic and fear of customers in a market and not something that naturally or gradually happens like in a bear market (though a crash can eventually lead to a gradual entry to a bear market).

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.
Naturally. Crashes are more often opportunities for those that see that the asset could still grow back, and that the crash was a result simply of panic. The underlying value of the asset is still there. Both those who lost and those who haven't both have the opportunity to ride on it, as long as said asset can still actually grow back.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Sarah Azhari on November 11, 2022, 02:08:22 AM
In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.
What if don't have capital?
is any other way to find it on street?
frankly, I'm very excited to buy all coins on the market now, but I've limited capital, I don't have much cash to buy all top market cap coin that already has good fundamentals like Ethereum. to be honest if I've house and car I will pawn it for cash and buy all dip.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Strongkored on November 11, 2022, 03:54:42 AM
FUD has always been the main cause of market crashes, and created panic so that coin prices plunged, if I had cash and it was idle money I might try to increase the bag but only 1 coin is my choice, namely BTC

What if don't have capital?
is any other way to find it on street?
frankly, I'm very excited to buy all coins on the market now, but I've limited capital, I don't have much cash to buy all top market cap coin that already has good fundamentals like Ethereum. to be honest if I've house and car I will pawn it for cash and buy all dip.

If there really is no more cash then there is nothing to do but just be a spectator of the current chaos, it is undeniable that when the market crashes it is a very good time to take action by buying Bitcoin especially because in a short period of time the price is very likely to recover at least $20,000 or more.

But by mortgaging your house or car to buy coins, even though you say you have good fundamentals, it's still not a wise choice. Two messages from CZ which I think are very relevant and current situation

1: Never use a token you created as collateral.

2: Don't borrow if you run a crypto business. Don't use capital "efficiently". Have a large reserve.

Source (https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1590103159506341888?cxt=HHwWgMDQqcOZl5EsAAAA)

The point is don't borrow or pawn anything just to buy coins that we don't know at all what will happen both in the long and short periods, using idle money is enough


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: wxa7115 on November 11, 2022, 04:58:25 AM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.


There are crashes which in the past have been caused by FUD and it is true that once the community saw there was nothing behind the FUD then there was a quick recovery.

However we cannot deny there are crashes as well in which either bitcoin became overvalued and a crash became imminent or a massive event happened and then the price crashed, a few examples of this are the the bankruptcy of Mt Gox, the pandemic, the collapse of Luna and now the liquidity issues of the FTX exchange.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: uneng on November 11, 2022, 05:29:28 AM
In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.
Right, scenarios like the currently one are good for new investors and investors in general who still have capital to invest in cryptocurrency. It's not everyday we have bitcoin pricing 17,000$ and it's likely we aren't going to see bitcoin on this price range anymore in some years, so it's definitely a good moment to start holding crypto. However, since these are uncertain times, it's better to invest in cryptos which we know their potential by checking their history. There are too many alternatives disponible, what makes investors confused about where to put their money, therefore they should stick with what has already proved to work, that is: bitcoin investment.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Gayong88 on November 11, 2022, 05:35:39 AM
FUD is the most common reason for sudden downside moves, but it's not the only one. Occasionally, there might be something new in the work, and if so, then it's worth investigating. Otherwise, crashes are caused by overreaction and fear. Maybe I'm not a financial adviser but in my opinion it's true, that reserve funds are needed at such times.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Diuyen Kim on November 11, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
People are always like this. When faced with all kinds of negative information, people have no time to react, and they have no time to distinguish the truth from the false, and panic has gradually become
Spread, they can only be forced to make a choice, whether to stick to their own heart or follow the public, but how did the first batch of public make choices, don't you think about it?
The power of public opinion is endless, and people want to control it and there are no measures that can immediately see the effect, and it may be counterproductive.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Yatsan on November 11, 2022, 02:26:23 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.


During market crash, I limit my capital to invest. Some investors especially bigger ones, would go all out during down
times because that is indeed a good time to invest edpecially if you have the money to invest and somehow 'forget' your money without being anxious about it, you'll just let it "sleep" in your wallet. Given that I have limited resources, I plan any amount that I will invest in order to be more precised with my investment and ofcourse to generate profit. Also factors such as circumstances would matter. It  could either limit the amount you can afford losing in an investment or boost you to go all out. Unfortunately we have different circumstances. FUD or not, if you are lacking resources you would be hesistant with your actions for sure.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: asyakashi on November 11, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
But in some time as long as the market is still on a negative trend it actually scares the holders. those of us who are attacked by FUD in several times have the potential to sell assets, FOMO is very difficult to look for because of the thin hype in the trend. we now see that FUD is even easier to deploy.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: abel1337 on November 11, 2022, 03:16:46 PM
But in some time as long as the market is still on a negative trend it actually scares the holders. those of us who are attacked by FUD in several times have the potential to sell assets, FOMO is very difficult to look for because of the thin hype in the trend. we now see that FUD is even easier to deploy.
In a bear market like this. FUD is more prominent since most of the whales in this time want to continue the bear market given that they will re-enter the market and reinvest the profits they gained during the bull market. FOMOing on this kind of market scenario will be inefficient since most of the people are thinking negative in cryptocurrency after they lost money on the start of bear market. I'm doing DCA today and at the same time I'm also trying to capitalize the sharp dips and big FUD events in crypto just like what happened this week between CZ and FTX.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: jrrsparkles on November 11, 2022, 05:29:33 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.


You mean liquid cash so we can buy the assets for cheaper than what we expected then absolutely, it is the king when there is a sudden crisis that is also the reason why rich get richer and poor gets poorer.

But holding in the fiat form can also cause the loss of value everyday you're holding without you even realising because you don't know how much money printed on that day according to the value of your fiat also lose its value.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Jackl87 on November 11, 2022, 09:11:04 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.
In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.

In general i agree that a overall bear market or a sharp drop in prices like we are experiencing it now is a good opportunity to invest into projects that are usually already to expensive, at least for my standards. By that i mean projects like Ethereum, Polkadot, Cosmos and so on, projects that are already big and established. The big problem is that we just can not know yet if we are already at the bottom or if we are going down another 20% or even more from here on. I still think though that if you invest into good projects now, then this should definitely be a profitable move in the longterm, if you are holding the coins long enough.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: libert19 on November 11, 2022, 09:16:34 PM
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But holding in the fiat form can also cause the loss of value everyday you're holding without you even realising because you don't know how much money printed on that day according to the value of your fiat also lose its value.

I don't have much understanding to argue but the whole world runs around it, it's more than 'printer goes brr'.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: DeathAngel on November 11, 2022, 09:19:14 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.



Of course, to be honest I find it really quite simple to play the bitcoin market. I’ve been involved a long time, tgis is my third bear market. The first bull market I sold nothing & suffice to say, really regretted it during the long bear of 2014-15. I didn’t make the same mistake again.

It’s really quite simple, buy at times like we are currently witnessing & hold until the bull market. You have to be patient sure but it’s fool proof. This doesn’t extend to alts as lots of them are very unreliable & centralised which leads to untrustworthy devs, ceo’s or whatever rugging people.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Odusko on November 11, 2022, 09:23:15 PM
The best possible thing to do is to have a set-aside capital for such an opportunity to cash in on weak hands who rush to sell at any slightest downturn in price.
What I normally do is reserve some percentage from my salary to buy more Bitcoin when the price fall and hold for a long time, that is the best way to take advantage to increase my Bitcoin holdings.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Yamifoud on November 11, 2022, 09:41:24 PM
Have observed in past that sudden crashes tend to be caused by FUD/over-reaction rather than anything substantial and the market eventually recovers.

In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.


I've seen the bear market as a tricky situation for investors.
FUDs are still influencing the market badly and injecting negativity into the minds of the people. Many people suffered losses for not understanding the situation and keep thinking about their money which lead to panic selling and losing their capital. It was very unfortunate but things like this will absolutely happen because not all can deal with the market situation and keep their faith.

As I was here and experience that previous bear market, I know how to adjust and adapt to market changes because I know price recovery will soon come which gives me a reason to hold and remain calm.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 11, 2022, 09:51:31 PM
Every now and then, FUD pops up and crashes the market in an instant. It could be that FUD is indeed one of the things manipulated for certain purposes by certain parties. Sometimes, even trivial things can be exaggerated and spread into a very large and wide FUD. So the impact on the market price will be very crash. And it won't just stop there.

Many of us don't expect FUD, to be sure. However, since we cannot avoid it, then we must be able to take advantage of it. You are right, this is when we actually have the opportunity to add assets such as Bitcoin or other top altcoins during the crash at a cheap price. However, we also have to be mentally strong and have the capital for this so that we don't get panic attacks.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: DoublerHunter on November 11, 2022, 09:54:23 PM
But in some time as long as the market is still on a negative trend it actually scares the holders. those of us who are attacked by FUD in several times have the potential to sell assets, FOMO is very difficult to look for because of the thin hype in the trend. we now see that FUD is even easier to deploy.
In a bear market like this. FUD is more prominent since most of the whales in this time want to continue the bear market given that they will re-enter the market and reinvest the profits they gained during the bull market. FOMOing on this kind of market scenario will be inefficient since most of the people are thinking negative in cryptocurrency after they lost money on the start of bear market. I'm doing DCA today and at the same time I'm also trying to capitalize the sharp dips and big FUD events in crypto just like what happened this week between CZ and FTX.
^The reason why the market struggling too much at this moment to rise up.
It becomes prolonged because many people will do the same as others who get FUD and the effect will spread. FUD will always be there because of us who did not believe in BTC the price suffered to increase. But I know there are some people who have faith in BTC, they hold it for a long purpose, and probably those countries who invested in BTC are also holding it right now, especially El Salvador.
However, CZ and FTX has now have an effect on the market.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: Johnyz on November 11, 2022, 09:59:08 PM
FUDs can totally affect the market this is the reason why I started to save some money from time to time which is readily available if I see the opportunity to buy at a cheaper price, the market will always be on this trend and those who have enough capital can make a big profit. Learn from history, the market always survive even if there’s no assurance, take more risk with good coins and you wont regret it.


Title: Re: Capital during sudden crashes
Post by: nurilham on November 11, 2022, 09:59:46 PM
In such times, capital can be handy as such opportunities are like finding gold on street.
I believe we all have capital whether it is small or big.
However, during the crash people are afraid to buy. The real problem is on mentality, not on the capital itself. Not everyone thinks the crash is an opportunity to gain profits, on the contrary some people assume it is a sign of the end of crypto world. For people who have this mindset, they probably won't spend any of their capital during the crash. They only buy when the market is in a bullish phase, they are happy to miss the chance buying at the bottom.  ;D