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UK and USA why ?
Becouse those banks have most reckless and careless financial and moneytary policies.
Also when you operate business you get less responsebility If you doing something wrong Also you have more legal ways to Avoid paying debt.
UK can nicely just transfer all the debt to public treasury.
Also biggest bail out-s Are in UK and USA.

Also UK Has the biggest bank money transactions limits for personal and business accounts it shows that UK Are about money.

Also UK Banks i can walk in to bank give the account number take my bag of money no questions asked i can just add it on account.all this show's that UK Are about moving money big money and business.

Off course those unsure factors will create volatile market for real estate stocs forex and everthing so best will be to use those countries as places to making money but not holding much wealth there better to invest gold or crypto.

My friends went in UK they told me it was like paradize so Easy years Ago was to taking loans and credit and Even to create company in UK not Even to go physically in UK.
Alot mlm business Are registered in UK and other referal payed business projects it shows that UK Are smart they want companies to be registered in UK to show that UK welcoming the ceo-s from all around the world.

USA Are Also good becouse Fed been doing great Job to producing big money.
Off course now we need to wait when UK and USA will go little down and crash then we wait when boe and fed Will start printing again and then everybody will go again in UK and USA to take that money with all the options what those countries have.

If you dont have nothing you have Zero you dont succeed in Europe or any other countries you have to go to UK USA or maybe canada Au ...becouse If you want to get money you have to go to get it from countries where is money more then other places.

UK and USA been biggest money printers they have biggest debts it means there was a lot money.

So If you want to get rich you should go in to UK or USA those countries Will make rich If you Are Active in there Even If you dont have skills education or money to make money those countries Will give you money Even If you have Zero money.

Off course the USA and UK doing little brake time pause about printing money but we wait little and once they start again it Will be Like paradize.

I Spoke with my very smart friend he told me UK was best money making place so far and no responsebility all most at all USA can be little more difficult but once you get in financial sector you Are in the honey in USA there is Also a lot money heavy money once they turn on again money printers.


And i congrats UK and USA leaders they run best ways their countries they never shy about printing money UK was not Even reserve currency country like USA but oo boy UK Banks can produce money If the world economy will turn on again and UK start printing again then you definately want to be in UK they know how to produce heavy heavy money.
I hope the other countries will learn from UK and can produce Even more money with Same lax laws so that the money hunters can Fly directly and start Taking money

Canada and Au Are great too but UK have done much better Job as UK debt is highest it shows they been serious about printing money and they have cared about making people wealthy in UK.


Congrats to BOE they know their thing

This is like a conspiracy you are trying to do to get people into UK or USA. The good thing about it is that it is not even easy to get in there, you have to been worthy of it but what is the need of this thread? Is it just about making money ? You can make money anywhere you find yourself in the world if you are focus and involved in lucrative field. Don't lose hope where you are.

Right now not the best times there but we wait when everthing Will be down housing crashed and inflation down then money printing start again and will be full of milk honey.

It's not that I don't want to go there but as ideal as you mean, it's the country itself that makes me feel so much better. No offense, what I mean is that considering the cost of living in the UK or in the US is quite high if we have $500 in our pocket it might not be enough for one month. Whereas in the country where I live $500 is still enough for one month and of course the needs are very well met. It's a simple fact to think about.

Not a few refugees who come to the UK or the US with the aim of becoming rich even become homeless sleeping on the streets because they cannot afford the high cost of living. What is the cheapest average rental house there? in my place 2 rooms, 1 living room, a kitchen and a bathroom it only takes $50 per month including clean water and electricity.

Not to mention talking about policies, banks, and prices of goods. It's really hard to compare, including taxes, and rising fuel because UK and US still have disputes with oil-producing countries, and their oil stocks can be stopped at any time because the superpowers have more business competitors than alliances.

Are other countries not worth living? I find that there are many countries worth living than the United States. No country has many riots, violence and hundreds of shooting every year as in the United States.  That is bad, the country is considered the most security in the world. My country is living without a high life like in the US, but at least it is much safer.

I will say this - it is objectively difficult to call the USA and Britain the IDEAL place for doing business. But on the other hand, these countries have created a financial, tax and legislative system that allows you to start and run your own business. The main advantage is comfortable conditions for the majority. And I won’t say anything about big business, there the state “grooms and cherishes” big business! :)

There is common thinking among people reaching first world countries will let them to be rich at the shortest. For a person moving from third world country it seems to be the truth. The same doesn't indicate his/her country doesn't let him to be rich. In the past the first world countries didn't have much of population and now things have changed. In the past it was an easy thing to migrate. Now those countries have got the population and the difficulty to move into those countries weren't an easy thing anymore.

Same as that we have in our countries, these first world countries too have poverty, homeless and other economic problems. These things won't be shown to outer world which too is kind of world politics. Looking for opportunities and moving to a country is good than thinking of being rich.

You teaching us that country who where debts are high and legal loop holes are at its peak will make us rich? Interesting, my economics teacher must be teaching me lessons from the wrong book. Funny.

The rules and the benefits which you talking about are the reason today US and Britain is facing worst economical crisis. Printing money does not mean you have money, it means you are welcoming to the inflation and which they already did.

Britain had to change their Prine Minister to overcome the economic burden, it’s not a joke.

It’s tension to the common peoples tax!

It may be true that you can be rich if you live in the USA or UK, but try to calculate how much your expenses will be if you live there.
And try to compare it with if you live in another country that doesn't have a high cost of living but you can live comfortably.
It's worth thinking about because apart from getting money from our business, we also need to consider how much it costs to live in a big country.
This will reduce our business income because of the various costs we have to pay monthly or yearly.

Op I hope you know that it is expensive to live in the UK and even US. Are you ready to face the taxation there? The economy run on taxing the people which is one major source of income generation and they don't joke with that, this means even evading tax is not taken easy, it is a crime and you are going to face the offense. In UK or US, you don't make money if you are not doing a business or job that you can earn like  $5-10k monthly because of all the taxes coming down on the salary. It is not easy anywhere and this is what you have to know

Yes the UK, US, and Canada have super economies that can make a diligent worker comfortable. But they also have some disadvantages. In my country, I have the freedom to express myself without fear of racism or intimidation, but it might not be so in these countries.  In my country, you hardly pay taxes if you are not in public service or a registered firm. You can live comfortably with less than $300 in a month. But these countries have high taxes and a high cost of living. Although you might not compare the standard of living in these countries with mine because they have a better standard of living. But for now, I am very comfortable with my country until I have a better offer from somewhere else. I can only migrate to these countries if I have a better opportunity

This style of writing reminds me of another one I just responded to and basically I think it has a lot to do with Doritos and Monster.

Generally, USA and UK are countries with a low unemployment rate and that make entrepreneurship easier, but this stuff that says that you are going to go from another country and they are going to give you loans everywhere I think it has more to do with an overdose of Doritos than with reality.

UK has the city that has functioned as a great center of international money laundering, but that does not mean that any sucker from another country arrives and they throw the bills on him so that he can get rich.

UK and USA are country with very good economy condition and most of the citizens are rich. But do you think a person without any skill and has a bad knowledge can become rich if he move to UK and USA? obviously not. The competition on UK and USA are high, not to mention the discrimination rate and mortality rate is really high, you could die young because get shoot by a criminal.

High risk high return, but I wouldn't dare to take the high risk, you need to have better life rather than money.

I suppose they are people like OP who like living in debt up to their necks with an extremely high cost of living that is also rising these days due to high inflation rates thanks to nonstop money printing machines that have produced the highest national debt in the world. That's not even including the high tax rates where the lower class and middle class pay more taxes in one month than the 1% upper class pays their entire lives. ;D

Why the US or UK? The last time I inquired, earning money there is reportedly difficult, but if you're determined and manage to land a lucrative job there, you'll undoubtedly become wealthy. Paying of tasks for the majority of the assets you own there is another example of what comes with success there. Everyone who earns money wants to live a high-class life, but doing so is expensive, and if you don't manage your riches wisely, you risk going from hero to zero once more.

Opportunities can be great there but other countries can offer more. Asia is the next big thing, so taking the opportunity to do business in Asia might help you become more rich but then again doing this will require a lot of capital and need a good business partners. If you are going to think and introduce cryptocurrency, I can say that in Africa and Asia, opportunities there are very bright as they started to see good developments.

What a bizarre take on how these countries operate. There may be some fragments of truth in parts of what you say, but the real reason these countries are successful is they have some of the strongest institutions and legal frameworks that have been produced over decades. They have clear structures and rules in place which draw in business because they know that there is less likely to be corruption or it might be slightly easier to expose. They have very independent media which allows for wrong doing to be exposed more easily and keeping people honest. That's not to say that people don't abuse all these things or get away with illegal activity, just that it is more likely to be prosecuted with consequences than some other countries.

If you want to get rich, look for problems in your country or local area and then find solutions for it. Those that have been rich are the problem solvers and gave the solution for a long time existing problem in their areas.

And with that, you can capitalize the system and earn from the patent that you've invented as help and solution to the people there. That's how it goes, you need to be a great critical thinker and execute it.

Easy to say but it would really be hard to be done.You could consider the following;

-Resources
-Time and effort
-Government support
-Paper works

I dont see the relevance on making out patents or something like that yet building a business would rather be giving less headache.
Also if you do look around which almost everything had been offered or available which creating something new basing up on the community problems where
you do live is something needing that scientist-like mind  which is never been that simple or could be that possible.

A little wrong. No one says that having arrived in the USA or Britain, you are guaranteed to either become rich, or guaranteed to live at a fairly high level. No, that would be very stupid. Nobody gives guarantees. The thing is different - opportunities for self-realization and support (including comfortable tax, credit systems, social programs, etc.) provide an opportunity for a person who has at least a desire to live well and do something for this, to realize their desires through their skills, in a convenient market .

Regarding the fact that many people come, or even Native Americans are homeless, there is a very simple explanation for this. Among them, of course, there are unfortunate losers, there are outcasts who have chosen between achieving a good standard of living - drugs, alcohol. And there are those who are quite satisfied with the social program that the state pays, and support in the form of both the state food supply system, and a bunch of churches and organizations working in the field of charity. Go to the USA, chat with the local population, learn a lot of amazing things about this topic :)

The American and British systems have great flexibility that enables investors to have investment opportunities without disruptions and away from bureaucracy. You will get rich if you work hard and keep a clean profile with the system.
The banking system facilitates the processes of obtaining loans and even financing startups. In addition to the many privileges enjoyed by project sponsors.
Not only Britain and the United States, all countries that direct their economies towards development and prosperity allow banks to facilitate economic activities in general.

Its like giving false hope for people who want to became rich easily since if we really want to get rich so bad we need to spend a lot of effort to make things happen. We need also to consider to find multiple income stream so that this dream will happen and it is not just a hope only. Going to UK and USA will never be a guarantee since we also need to consider the high cost of living there so at the end the high salary then be reach maybe not might not come to us if we live there for good.

It's really easy to say but the execution and application is hard. It is in general not just in UK and USA that most of the rich folks there are problem solvers.

It could be their own personal problems or people's problem and that's how they've figured out to become rich. Those that you've mentioned are normal and even you're just an employee, you get to have those.

So for personal experience, you'll use all of those and you'll manage to walkthrough with all of it. Having a patent is just one of it, you can divert that attention into other business where you're having the inspiration of the successful ones.

Your statement is still too ambiguous, there are several statements that contradict someone's beliefs to enter the country.
To get the wealth you want to get, you need work management and skills, we don't believe that just because you entered the United States, opportunities to become rich are increasingly open, if you are a lazy person and don't have any skills, then getting rich is just a dream that will not happen happens, there are many methods that cannot be ignored, when one wants wealth.

You are now trying to find an excuse for the failures of those who decided that they would come and become millionaires tomorrow. More precisely to shift on other people's shoulders. In fact, this is not so - there are no promises, no obligations, no legislative acts and articles of the constitution, which says "Come to the USA and be rich." also applies to Britain. But what really is - these are the stories of ordinary people. Someone really received a high income, someone is lying primitively, someone is deceiving in order to lure money from a person for a "trip to a dream" ... It's like in medicine - when you have a health problem - a good doctor will say - look, there is a problem, here are its reasons , here are ways to fix or mitigate the effects. It depends only on you - whether you will follow a diet, exercise, take prescribed medications and stop or not take alcohol, fatty, and harmful. And in reality it will not be easy to achieve the desired result, and without any guarantees of the result. And there are charlatans who will say - I have a miraculous medicine, it will 100% cure you! But it must be bought at a high price.

In a word, the assumption that "by moving to the USA or Britain, you will become rich" is just an assumption .... True, there are nuances that say that this assumption is more likely to be realized in these states than, for example, in third world countries or in countries with totalitarian, anti-human laws and rulers.

Expertise is the main criterion that must exist within each person to live in that world and it's not only in the environment in the USA or UK, because in developed countries it is clear that the competition in work is very much and very fierce, so that each person has to always have new ways that are good and needed by every company in every country including those in the USA and UK. This is based on the fact that many companies require employees with special skills to be employed in companies in countries within the USA, as well as the UK.

So in this case it is clear that only those who have skills can live there (USA and UK) to earn good income and become rich. Because if the job is just sleeping or just lazing around there (USA and UK), wealth in any form will not come to us by itself.

Sounds interesting, but it's a pass for me. Been to both countries and while they are nice for a while, I don't see myself living in either of them. If I had to choose between the two I would go for USA, UK doesn't look so strong at the moment. Are you sure to compare these two in the same way? I thought that UK is expected to have a recession next year. The news I read about the UK economy are not that great. This doesn't leave many options to move to, in UK the only place to be is probably London, whereas in USA there are many big cities where you can make a living. The main problem will be to get a permit to actually live and work their. Don't you already need a job or special qualification to get a greencard? I always thought it's hard to immigrate into the USA. Also the living cost are quite high over there, getting a good job is one thing, but actually becoming rich a something else. I still think you need some very good skills to be paid a lot.

Management in everything i.e time, money, emotion, etc.. are all important to become a successful person and the other one would be skills. I don't believe that there are people who don't have any skills.

We all have it but some of us are just lazy, that is why we never discover our hidden skills. Not just the OP but many of us already have a belief that migrating on other well developed countries can change our life but I think that was legit because they have higher pay rates there but the only downside is that the cost of living there is also expensive but if we know how to manage or to budget our money and prioritize only the things that is truly needed, we can save up good amounts of money there.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_millionaires (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_millionaires)

I guess this is why USA or UK. Both are at the top of the list, and the USA is leading this race by far! In a huge market, you always have more possibilities. But there are no guarantees anywhere, in theory, you can make money anywhere in the world if you have a "product" that is wanted. And for sure there are many legal and illegal ways of making money anywhere in the world, we all know that.

Well, we are close to 8 billion people... I guess competition is very tight wherever you look!

This is somehow true but taxes in the US and UK can be annoying which had made many investors to pay workers more with big taxes from the firm or company. I know the UK and US has suitable working environment with skills and work power which can make businesses to do well if the person has good team with better vision.
There is more to this any anybody that has the I tension to bring his businesses to the UK or US would need to have sufficient fund to begin and pay for the necessary things before settings a business.

I can strongly say I disagree with your opinion because going to another country like the USA or England can be helpful for some people but this cannot guarantee you to become a rich person just because traveling to another country you can become a rich person if you know the ways to become a rich person in any country if can happened for your a developed country or in a not developed country for everyone and totally depends on yourself, not your country where you are living, you can become rich even in a poor and not developed country.

In the UK and US life is easy there in the sense that there are more job opportunities and other ways in which you can start up something to get funds. These two countries are business centres in the world with high valued currency because they welcome businessmen that is willing to invest in their country from any part of the world.

Before you can be rich, you must contribute or partake in rendering goods or services to the country in exchange for money, you can't pick money on their streets because they print money. If you are lazy and you go to UK or US,you can still remain poor but if you are hardworking and you have some new ideas for them then you might become rich. The people in the third world countries are believes that these two countries are money making country.

Besides not all people are eligible to go there. Does this mean, people who failed to get their Visas in those countries are doomed to poverty?  OP's statement is moot  ;D.   Opportunities are everywhere.  It is up to the person whether they can take advantage of it.  Besides, there are lots of things to do after you go to the UK or the USA.  No one will give us million dollars there for free.  We have to work hard for it.  And even need to work more than 10 hours per day in order to get paid more than the basic.

And one more thing, why do lots of investors from those country looks for another country to invest in if that place is enough to generate a good amount of money?

Any project in the world will require expenses and a budget. These expenses will increase if the owner of the project wants to move it from one place to another. It is true that taxes and taxes are high in those countries and there is an emphasis on paying them on time, but the volume of demand and prices of goods and services are high and they can cover the expenses. Poor countries are to make a profit because entrepreneurs can manipulate laws and not pay taxes and there is no oversight.

Cost of living is high in any developed country. The salaries usually are proportional to the cost of living. It also goes without saying that the cost of living in developed countries is also proportional to the standard of living. "Get what you pay for" in a sense.

I'd agree that taxes are pretty high, but it mostly applies to corporations more than anything. UK might have higher taxes with and only till recent higher energy costs, but that's the price to live in a developed nation.

Bullshit title in my opinion.

Getting rich if the only thing to be happy in your mind, then you are grossly mistaken. Money is only a part of life, living conditions and the cost living in these countries are very high meaning a lot of your "earning" will be spent right there and the cash at hand would be much less.

If someone has a passion and is willing to work for it even though hard times are following they will emerge victorious at one point and make money while being happy at work.

Not everyone will be a millionaire, but being one without being happy about your work life, sucks. So follow your dream, not the money.

Is this post ironic? Are you serious?
According to your views and beliefs about economy and finance, the more money printing and debt there is in a country the better for the companies and the people. What about inflation and currency devaluation? What about going bankrupt? I don't think that going bankrupt in the UK and USA is as easy and painless as you describe it. It's always horrible for a business owner to go bankrupt, because his future partners will most likely know about his previous business failures and would hesitate to do business with him. The banks would also hesitate to give him loans.
I don't really think that it is very easy for a foreigner to get bank loans in both the USA and the UK. Foreign immigrants always had a hard time in their first years in the USA or UK.

I will add to this - if there is no wind in your head, there is knowledge, skills, experience, then it is much more profitable to live in countries that are not so large and developed. Let's compare, for example, a monthly income of 3000-5000 dollars a month, for example in Britain, and let it be - the Czech Republic, Poland or Latvia?
If you calculate your regular regular expenses to provide a living - in Britain they will be almost 3-5 times higher. Despite the fact that the level of comfort and quality of life is little or not significantly different. At the same time, due to globalization, most brands, technologies, goods and services are available in any adequate country. But regular costs in these countries will be noticeably lower than in Britain.
Accordingly, being such a "middle class" is much more profitable in the Czech Republic, Poland or Latvia!

Travelling abroad doesn't guarantee being rich. Although some countries doesn't help citizen in getting rich even when you are hardworking. Alot of policies in some countries won't allow people who are even hardworking to get there easily. This make people believe travelling over there is a solution forgetting US and UK have their own policies, although more favorable to citizens.

USA and UK are developed countries that are the center of economy, education, entertainment and so on, and to succeed in developed countries, of course, must be prepared with very tight competition, many people are successful but many fail because they do not understand the important things that must be done when the business In UK and USA.

I don't know what you mean in this case, especially for the few paragraphs you wrote with all the confirmations that were there.
But talking about being rich has to go to the USA or maybe the UK, this is clearly a little difficult in my opinion.
I have several friends who live in the USA and every time we talk, someone complains and of course the cost of living there is quite expensive.
On the other hand, I also saw several threads from The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418)  in this case he also said several times that life is indeed the cost of living there, obviously quite large, especially with possible conditions. which is indeed advanced so that when I say some things that I think are expensive in my country they could be cheap in the USA. you can see it in some of the statements he said if you really intend to compare. Archive (https://ninjastic.space/post/59687058) Archive (https://ninjastic.space/post/59710709)

Indeed, in this case maybe if we can get a decent job there we can still get rich, but what if we are determined to go there without thinking about anything with the hope that money can be easy to get there even though it will still be difficult.
The conditions for finding work in other countries are very difficult in my opinion, especially if you don't have any skills and of course the income we have in the USA will be a little difficult if you pay attention to the cost of living there.

Many people think and make that USA and UK are investment destinations, maybe it is true but we must understand that if we are a business or work in the USA it requires special skills and very tight competition, most people are successful in USA and UK because they know the culture and USA and UK needs or trends.

If you are rich go to the country but don't be too blind because in reality UK and USA is not really the best countries for business due to high taxes and only top 1% of the people in those countries holds most of the wealth so GDP or any stats doesn't really tell you the truth. FYI, USA is one if the countries where homeless people rate is high.

On the ither side some middle east countries have zero income tax so that's the place you have to be if you really want to enjoy all the money you made, Habibi come to Dubai! ;D

In this case, we also don't deny that being in the USA or UK is indeed part of the dream of some people, because the assumption is still the same that being there will be easy.
But seeing the writing from @The Pharmacist that you link to is something that can open it up because it seems that being there is not as easy as imagined.
For the cost of living in a country will obviously be different and this adjusts to the conditions and even then applies to salaries in a job and others.
The big salary there is directly proportional to the expensive life so this is quite reasonable and indeed sometimes we forget this so that we only look at it in terms of expectations without considering the fact that life there is not as easy as imagined.

Not sure why UK and not Europe, USA is the largest trading partner for UK but surely ECB puts out easy money also across the EU.   Certainly the EURO seems to reflect constant new money via all the bond programs, all 3 central banks are in theory tighter in policy this year.   All have failed to retract QE as the program requires a return to normality after any exceptional program, ultimately we all know the currency will permanently lose value for this kind of support given.
   Why is he so interested in the ease of not repaying the money because thats not getting rich its going broke and leaving behind your debts, which sounds very close to illegal activity really when stated in this context of 'success'.  One person I read about recently took covid funds to support business and sent it to Syria for the purchase of arms explosives to be used in cities against that government etc.   people will always get some wild ideas under easy money policies unfortunately.

When I was in school, I dreamed of being able to go to college and work in the USA, a large salary offer and good career opportunity so that it made me motivated to be able to go to the USA, having participated in the test unfortunately failed and now I have no plans to work in the UK or USA, And in my opinion for success does not have to go to the USA or UK countries because of opportunities we can get anywhere.

Right, of course we can make the choice to be rich anywhere and don't have to go to the UK or the USA, many rich people even in poor countries like Bangladesh, Kenya, Peru, Colombia and so on, to be rich of course you have to struggle and persevere, never give up and always Take failure as a lesson to be better.

So from that we also can't make it seem that moving there will instantly get rich because in fact it's not like that, maybe in terms of income from work and salary there it's clear that it's big when compared to my own country (especially the country I live in) but on the other hand other costs of living there are of course much greater than where I am now and I agree with saying that the salary there balances the lifestyle.

The important point is from ourselves, whether we really want or not to change our destiny for the better.
Of course, in this case, we also do not deny that we are in a big country, when we have the ability and we are recognized that it will be easier, but to achieve this we must return to ourselves whether we can do it or not, because if we do, we only have to be desperate. then this is not going to go well.

Anyone hopes to be successful and if they can conquer the USA and UK, they will be able to rule the world, of course it is not easy to subdue the USA or UK because the old players and already have experience will determine their position, but nothing is impossible.