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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: Fullbear2222 on November 16, 2022, 10:05:53 PM



Title: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fullbear2222 on November 16, 2022, 10:05:53 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 16, 2022, 10:45:46 PM
What good news you have heard OP which in fact, we have been flooded with many issues like Binance and FTX. They are affecting too much in the market trend, it increasing panic and losses to FTX users and the credibility of Binance.

You will never expect a lot from the current situation OP. Might you have heard the good news but never think this is enough to uplift the market prices? What you gonna do is to keep patient and have faith in your investment. And never get enticed by this fake news.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on November 16, 2022, 11:22:02 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


I don't think I heard any more good news, but no matter what good news you heard, you should be aware that the market is still in a bear market and that now is not the time for Bitcoin to pump. Everyone knows that if Bitcoin doesn't pump, other coins won't either, so a bullrun will occur between 2024 and 2025, according to analysis. and most recently, one of the factors affecting the price of cryptocurrency is the FTX exchange issue..

Everyone is convince  do to that nobody was expecting this kind of market currently, so nobody knows what will be the next price of Bitcoin because of some factors that is affecting Bitcoin partly this issue of exchange. Now crypto is down a lot of projects are  dying and everybody is in frustration. So it will be hard to even give signal. The only opportunity that will  Favour is to buy and hold for a long period of time.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: harizen on November 16, 2022, 11:59:10 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

What is the good news you have read recently? Regardless, it's not that the considered good news for you can just shake the market easily.

We have a different approach to any news we encounter.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Not all the time, the market will adjust for you. There's no such thing as a trend that should always be favored by you. In fact, it's the best opportunity to buy cheap coins. If you can't handle the stress, you can take a break and do some relaxation in the outside world for the meantime.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: GreatArkansas on November 17, 2022, 01:00:33 AM
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Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
Pure speculation. Always keep in your mind that if you are trading, you can't do 100% every time, that's why there is risk management like using stop-losses just in case your trade will not go accordingly to your plan.
Expect that there are lot of upsides and downsides of emotion when you are trading, you must be aware of it so you can control your emotions too and not to be greedy.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Wexnident on November 17, 2022, 01:53:09 AM
And the good news is...? While I do consider an exchange closing down and people learning and solidifying the idea of "not your keys, not your coins" good news, I'd say it has a pretty negative effect on the market. Additionally, even though I don't fully follow the price but there should be some points in time where you would've been able to profit, albeit really small though. If you were looking for big profits, then a day, heck even a month, or a year wouldn't be enough time, especially since we're still feeling the bearish sentiment.

I suggest taking a break, and maybe switching over to DCA so you don't have to mind the price all the time.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: justdimin on November 17, 2022, 06:41:52 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
I would say that most investors these days believe that crypto market is easily predictable due to bitcoin market's halving based nature of four year cycle which means whatever happens positively, more than 50% of investors still believe that bearish conditions will last till December of this year or at least till first half of January of next year.

When 50% of 'contributing' people are not ready to accept something then we cannot expect usual effect. So in my opinion, all those good news are getting nullified by the believers of 4 year cycle of bitcoin. Overall in my understanding, when there would be more demand for bitcoin then that 4 year cycle might turn to 3 year or shorter cycle; on that occasions those investors who fail to update themselves might get trapped.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Strongkored on November 17, 2022, 08:09:36 AM
because the good news you mean (though I don't know what it is) didn't really please the market, and the impact of the previous issue caused a lot of damage the market lost confidence and they needed time to recover and trust in cryptos again, because the problem with the exchange, market was so thinking what to do if the exchange place for cryptos activity turns out to be not a place to be trusted.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 17, 2022, 08:34:13 AM
Good news? Where? Can you share links of good news right now?
I can't see any good news right now on the internet because it's been flooded with one of the worst ponzi scheme in the crypto history which is the FTX-Alameda ponzi scheme and Scam Bankman-Fried.

The bad news weighs the good news and bad news = negative sentiments to investor thus, making the price of the whole market go down. I don't see any good news right now. All I'm seeing on the internet is the FTX scam, Alameda scam, the contagion effect caused by Scam Bankman-Fried and no good news at all.

Don't expect good news right now because what happened last week and its effects towards other businesses and firms might take weeks or until the end of the year or possible until next year. Just look at the effect of FTX scam. BlockFi in trouble, Genesis in trouble, more companies that has connection with FTX might be in trouble as well because of what happened. Contagion effect.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: mk4 on November 17, 2022, 08:42:36 AM
Point us to the good news. I'll wait.

Also, there are still so much rumours about insolvent platforms; recently it seems to be Genesis Trading's lending arm. We don't know if the contagion effect of FTX/Alameda has finally ended or not.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: mindrust on November 17, 2022, 08:51:49 AM
It is because we are still in a huge bear market. The interest rates are still rising, the inflation is still high, a major crypto exchange went bankrupt… The environment is no good for crypto at the moment and it will stay like that for a while. Don’t expect a recovery before these major issues get resolved. Bitcoin may not go lower than this (it is still a possibility though) but it is not going to get a new ATH neither. In the long run it will be fine. (2-5 years)


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: palle11 on November 17, 2022, 09:06:43 AM
Op you didn't link us to any particular good news recently at least that can help us read it. The news I know for now within the cryptocurrency market is Elon musk winning the tweeter ownership bid but that isn't related to bitcoin. For now the crash of FTX exchange is what fud the market is going through and this is making fears around that market could drop. So where are you getting the good news from ?


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Yawa2020 on November 17, 2022, 09:31:29 AM
Op you didn't link us to any particular good news recently at least that can help us read it. The news I know for now within the cryptocurrency market is Elon musk winning the tweeter ownership bid but that isn't related to bitcoin. For now the crash of FTZ exchange is what fud the market is going through and this is making fears around that market could drop. So where are you getting the good news from ?
Exactly what I am about to ask the OP Perhaps providing us with a link to go through the acclaimed good news too will help to justify or refute his claims. However, numerous news circulating on the internet does not determine the market price but rather serves to inform. For the past few days I have not even come across any good news regarding this market situation.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Issa56 on November 17, 2022, 10:00:21 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
I have seen some of your posts recently, probably you are new to crypto space. I don't really know the good news you are talking about because I haven't really seen any good news, and even if their is good news do you think Bitcoin will just jump back to $60k+? I don't think so, Bitcoin is going to take time before it can recover, so we all have to be patient and hold our coin, even if their is good new bitcoin won't just bounce back just like that, it's still going to take time, when bitcoin was dumping, it didn't dump wetin one day or one month, it was dumping gradually so if bitcoin is going to pump, then it will be gradually and not once.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 17, 2022, 10:42:23 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
I'm sure you're aware that we're in a bear market and not every good news will affect the coins that you're holding. Bear is stronger than the good news they have.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
It's still possible to make money on the market at any season that we have. You just have to be on the right position before buying and selling. If you're frustrated right now, get away from the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: pooya87 on November 17, 2022, 10:47:03 AM
Why coins not going up ?
Which coins? You mean the altcoins? They are not supposed to go up. They were created to be pumped and dumped a couple of times and then die. In other words, altcoins in long term are always on a downtrend.

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If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
You should be more specific about the news you think is good.

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When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
Based on this and your other topic I think you have fallen for one of these scam pump and dump groups that are "selling signals". They aren't "traders" and what they post is not "ideas". They are scammers who are posting their hopes so that some fools can buy those shitcoins and help THEM sell their bags to you.

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It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
It is actually very possible to make money even from the pump and dump shitcoins. You just have to learn to ride the pumps instead of waiting for a scammer to tell you when to buy which is always after they started dumping.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Plaguedeath on November 17, 2022, 12:56:38 PM
Right now the recent news that surround in my device is always about CZ drama, FTX bankrupt, any entity that invest in FTX follow FTX path, people are panic and withdraw their funds etc. Do you think those news are good? It's good if they withdraw their funds to hardware wallet, but the worst thing is if they're send to Binance since they think Binance has SAFU.

There's no good news except El Salvador want to buy Bitcoin everyday, but it's still not enough to replace FTX case.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Husires on November 17, 2022, 01:20:22 PM
We are in a bear market, so good news is not supposed to lead the scene or be a reason for the price increase. One of the characteristics of the bear market is the succession of bad news, and the more this news increases, it is an indication of the imminent end of this downward cycle.

We will not hear good news, and this good news will not cause an increase in the price, but the bad news will disappear.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Nrcewker on November 17, 2022, 03:58:14 PM
I wonder what news you heard and how did it seemed you to be “good” ? Currently many traders are facing huge losses for FTX going bankruptcy. For this the market is suffering like hell. This is the main reason for which Bitcoins fell down so suddenly and struggling to get back the pace. It will take couple of more weeks to settle, then if possible at the end of December, we might see some positive approach from Bitcoins. Till that we just need to be calm and composed and buy Bitcoins in our wallet.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: maydna on November 17, 2022, 04:25:38 PM
That's because we are still in a bear market where the price of the coin is not increasing significantly. We have to be patient to keep waiting for the bull market to come. Even though we don't know when it will come, we still have to be patient. Don't listen to what other people have to say about the market because it can frustrate you not to be able to make a profit. Try to analyze to the best of your ability because, who knows, your analysis can work well for you. And even though there is a lot of positive news about the market, it is not guaranteed that the price will start to increase so be patient.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Wapfika on November 17, 2022, 04:37:42 PM
I wonder what news you heard and how did it seemed you to be “good” ? Currently many traders are facing huge losses for FTX going bankruptcy. For this the market is suffering like hell. This is the main reason for which Bitcoins fell down so suddenly and struggling to get back the pace. It will take couple of more weeks to settle, then if possible at the end of December, we might see some positive approach from Bitcoins. Till that we just need to be calm and composed and buy Bitcoins in our wallet.
OP should state the good news he heard or read, It’s not definitely about FTX since it’s investors is still struggling to claim or get their investments. Or Elon in acquiring Twitter since it didn’t affect the market that much except some hype in Doge before. It’s hard to make the market pump when there is no news related to Bitcoin, maybe some altcoins having their good news but if there’s no news about BTC it will not affect much the market to lift the crypto prices.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Piesel on November 17, 2022, 04:59:22 PM
Sometimes, news alone is not enough to push the market upward and if you may know, we still have so many factors that control the price of many coins and not only news.

We have whales that hold big bags and they can influence the price of those coins too.

Other factors aside from whales and media news also include the public perception of the coin and how traders react to them on the exchange.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Marykeller on November 17, 2022, 05:08:35 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
It's normal in crypto. When there is good news in crypto, the price of bitcoin will make a good move by increasing in price gradually, but there is bad news the price will decrease. As it is now, there is no good news in crypto of recent, but rather bad news about the FXT exchange with her investors that left their crypto in their exchange.

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Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
The crypto market is difficult to predict her next price. Crypto is not a get-rich scheme. Invest with your spare money. You only lose in crypto when you sell below your investment. That's why it's advised to be patient while you hodl


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Pandu Geddon on November 17, 2022, 05:29:38 PM
Sometimes, news alone is not enough to push the market upward and if you may know, we still have so many factors that control the price of many coins and not only news.

We have whales that hold big bags and they can influence the price of those coins too.

Other factors aside from whales and media news also include the public perception of the coin and how traders react to them on the exchange.
maybe the news that happened was not enough to create positive sentiment toward the market. there is no change in market movement. So of course those who are still holding money haven't stepped in as the OP did.
some still see potential and market response in the short term. if possible the market will short-pump. however, if well-funded traders don't move the market, it can be difficult to see the market moving in a favorable direction.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ShowOff on November 17, 2022, 06:41:29 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
The market should not move the way you mean and want it to. Good news is just a factor that supports traders' increased interest in buying, but it doesn't necessarily make the price rise instantly. You have time to get ready, so that's how the market works. Forget the hype and pump, now is not the time.

Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
Who do you expect? I don't think it's going to be great right now considering a lot of people seem to be wary of investing large sums.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on November 17, 2022, 07:10:10 PM
In recent few months no good news come which can shake the market situation, recent few bad news like Luna scam and after that Ukraine and Russia war and now the FTX scam broke the hope of Market bullish , so now market need stability as well as huge bigs news in order to see greenery in market.

It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
It's right but if you buy best altcoins at cheap prices and hold for long term it may give you huge profit


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: jaberwock on November 17, 2022, 07:43:22 PM
Op you didn't link us to any particular good news recently at least that can help us read it. The news I know for now within the cryptocurrency market is Elon musk winning the tweeter ownership bid but that isn't related to bitcoin. For now the crash of FTZ exchange is what fud the market is going through and this is making fears around that market could drop. So where are you getting the good news from ?
Or he can at least mention the names of it and we will tell if they happen for real or not. Elon musk obtaining twitter is I think not a positive news because I don't trust him. This isn't related to btc or crypto either but many people forcibly relate it.

I think because they assume that Elon will implement crypto payments inside the platform but it would be better if we will wait and avoid thinking in advance. As for the FTX issue. It's done. The market have crash badly already but people are now starting to cope up. They know that nothing will happen if they will overthink things but they must move on. Sell if they want to quit and buy if they want to continue on this crypto game.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Mahanton on November 17, 2022, 08:44:34 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

This is where you should really make yourself that aware that any news or fundamentals around doesnt always mean that it would be creating significant effect on the market and this is what makes it
unpredictable on the first place.This is what makes it hard to make some analysis because it could be anytime fucked up since market could move on random way.Come to think that it could move out
randomly without any news or events around which it do really raise up questions on your mind on how the heck or whats happening.We arent seeing something around
but still the price do really move out. You should really make yourself get used to it because no one on this world could able to predict on what would happen in speaking
of price movement.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Natalim on November 17, 2022, 09:37:51 PM
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This is where you should really make yourself that aware that any news or fundamentals around doesnt always mean that it would be creating significant effect on the market and this is what makes it
unpredictable on the first place.This is what makes it hard to make some analysis because it could be anytime fucked up since market could move on random way.Come to think that it could move out
randomly without any news or events around which it do really raise up questions on your mind on how the heck or whats happening.We arent seeing something around
but still the price do really move out. You should really make yourself get used to it because no one on this world could able to predict on what would happen in speaking
of price movement.
FUDs and any negative news gives a huge market impact but if we talk about good news, I haven't seen it. Now, it has been realized that people aren't much giving weight to the good news but likely have a huge concern about the negative ones. But I see why and that is because they care too much about their investment and they are worried. Actually, the market is very tricky, you can't assume that will happen even if we are surrounded by positive people as these FUDs certainly could influence the market and could change someone's view.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Hamphser on November 17, 2022, 09:56:21 PM
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This is where you should really make yourself that aware that any news or fundamentals around doesnt always mean that it would be creating significant effect on the market and this is what makes it
unpredictable on the first place.This is what makes it hard to make some analysis because it could be anytime fucked up since market could move on random way.Come to think that it could move out
randomly without any news or events around which it do really raise up questions on your mind on how the heck or whats happening.We arent seeing something around
but still the price do really move out. You should really make yourself get used to it because no one on this world could able to predict on what would happen in speaking
of price movement.
FUDs and any negative news gives a huge market impact but if we talk about good news, I haven't seen it. Now, it has been realized that people aren't much giving weight to the good news but likely have a huge concern about the negative ones. But I see why and that is because they care too much about their investment and they are worried. Actually, the market is very tricky, you can't assume that will happen even if we are surrounded by positive people as these FUDs certainly could influence the market and could change someone's view.
The market now is really full of negativity and we cant really see any positive news other than that El Salvador 1 btc purchase per day.
Nayib Bukele announces Bitcoin prescription for El Salvador: 1 BTC a day
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nayib-bukele-announces-bitcoin-prescription-for-el-salvador-1-btc-a-day

Now, we cant really tell if this news could really make out some positive impact on the market
Just like the rest been saying that any moment which the price could move out and leave us out those questions in our heads.
Fundamental type of trading isnt bad but not all the times there's a news which it would be sensible that you should switch up at least
on using up technical indicators which does simply shows that you should really be that versatile.
Every steps and actions to be made out does really corresponding have some risk and this is what you should pu up into your mind.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: DoublerHunter on November 17, 2022, 10:36:11 PM
In recent few months no good news come which can shake the market situation, recent few bad news like Luna scam and after that Ukraine and Russia war and now the FTX scam broke the hope of Market bullish , so now market need stability as well as huge bigs news in order to see greenery in market.

It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
It's right but if you buy best altcoins at cheap prices and hold for long term it may give you huge profit
^There is good news but that won't have an effect on the BTC price, just like green mining facilities or an oil company adopting BTC mining through their cooling system and etc. which supposedly BTC climb up the price but it was not.
There are too many struggles than the good news and that is why people keep panicking, others transferring their funds to a safe wallet and others are selling their crypto assets knowing that there is no safe wallet like an exchange. It is expected that it will be prolonged since people now was in the FUD and fear losing their funds.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: TelolettOm on November 17, 2022, 11:45:24 PM
The market now is really full of negativity and we cant really see any positive news other than that El Salvador 1 btc purchase per day.
Nayib Bukele announces Bitcoin prescription for El Salvador: 1 BTC a day
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nayib-bukele-announces-bitcoin-prescription-for-el-salvador-1-btc-a-day

Now, we cant really tell if this news could really make out some positive impact on the market
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That news seems no impact on the market because people are more focused on the FTX case. Now, people become afraid about the next exchange to experience the same problem as FTX. People probably won't be brave enough to buy crypto coins as long as the case of an exchange bankruptcy isn't over. Positive news will work and bring impact to crypto prices when the FUD disappears. With too many FUDs lately, even El Salvador buys 10 BTC per day, I doubt it will directly impact on crypto trend.



Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ChiNgadOr on November 17, 2022, 11:49:49 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

You just needed to understand the phase of market that we are, the market right now is bear and no matter the good news the market is still going to go dip if it eventually try to make some positive movement. So of the coins which I am holding is till I'm profits normal what the market does or how far it went dip. The market is all about understanding when to buy and when to sell. There is no need stressing ourselves on positive news that will move the market, when the time comes for the market to move, it will surely take a bull move.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Mr.right85 on November 17, 2022, 11:53:52 PM
Why coins not going up ?

It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
The market isn't going up? Where then is it going I wonder!

I would say, the market is taking a position it needs to be despite the news. It continues to function based on how the news is received by traders although, I guess you might know that already.

Just know that, its not going to be about what signals out there, what you here or what position you took. Its never dependent on your actions and so, you can only try. When it doesn't go your way, you give it a break and don't get frustrated trading.
Take occasional breaks and try again.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: QueenVera on November 18, 2022, 04:12:04 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

These are just the signs and confirmation that we're in a bear market. In bull market those news that aren't moving the market would had sent it pumping. The bear market is full of negativity and people are more interested in pulling money out of the market then investing which is why it seems the market is on a constant decline.
The good news about this time is that, this period give you an advantage to get some good project at a discount. Many projects are trading in massive loss as they're trading above -90% so you just have to look through all the opportunity available and try to identity the worthy ones. When chosing you have to be careful as many project you see in the market today will not exist in years to come.
Keep your frustration in order and don't let it control you into making bad decision that you'll regret later like you selling your coins now because you feel the market Isn't making much progress. Very soon the bull run will come and those coins will rise back.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: adaseb on November 18, 2022, 04:19:42 AM
There hasn’t been any good news for the past week pretty much. The last 2-3 days were steady but we got lots of negative press.

Look at the contagion that is going on. We got genesis raising funds to pay off the Gemini earn customers. We got lots of other market makers which are struggling with capital.

Everyday there is tons of funds removed from exchanges due to fear. Be surprised that Bitcoin is still at $17K.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: michellee on November 18, 2022, 06:03:09 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
We don't need to worry if the price of almost all the coins doesn't go up for now because eventually, almost all of those coins will go up, especially when the bull market comes back. Until then, we can use this time to increase the amount of each potential coin we already have so that we will definitely make a big profit when the bull market comes. We should not put too much hope on traders posting signals for each coin because it is very hard to see the price increase several times when the market is still in a bear position. But some coins can go up high but the rising price of the coin hasn't been able to reach its peak price.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: OsipBabin on November 18, 2022, 07:42:31 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Are you a parallel dimension to us? Are you not a Twitter user? The screen full of negative news has been monopolized by FTT SBF CZ. Market sentiment is gloomy.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Slow death on November 18, 2022, 08:26:50 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

where are you seeing good news, when I enter the news site I see this:

Bahamian securities regulator ordered the transfer of FTX’s digital assets (https://cointelegraph.com/news/bahamian-securities-regulator-ordered-the-transfer-of-ftx-s-digital-assets) ( Bad news )

FTX names Kroll as claims agent, to update users on bankruptcy developments
 (https://cointelegraph.com/news/ftx-names-kroll-as-claims-agent-to-update-users-on-bankruptcy-developments) ( shows that the hole is so deep that there is no more concert )

US Sen. Warren and Durbin demand answers from Bankman-Fried and his successor at FTX (https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-sen-warren-and-durbin-de) ( bad news, these guys are not pro cryptos and can take advantage of this to propose tough laws )

$600M in Bitcoin options expire on Friday, giving bears reason to pin BTC under $16K (https://cointelegraph.com/news/600m-in-bitcoin-options-expire-on-friday-giving-bears-reason-to-pin-btc-under-16k)

as you can see, there is only bad news, the market can still drop a lot, do not create high expectations about a possible big price increase, at this moment it is more advisable to just watch the market until everything stabilizes, with that you avoid unnecessary losses

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?

they're just watching the market, that's the best thing they can do right now, they can't say: "tomorrow the price will go up...." when they're reading bad news all the time, they know they can't do that. Waiting and watching is also a good move in times like these. while there is a lot of bad news there will be panic selling, even if you see some sign of a small rise in price it will soon fall when bad news comes

It's imposdible to make any money in this Market

you are looking at the short term, in the long term you will make a lot of profit, as I said before, be patient, there are days when the price goes up a lot, but in the same way that it goes up a lot it can also go down a lot

Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

and why would someone put a lot of money in now if that person can wait for the price to drop a lot and put money in?


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Ayers on November 18, 2022, 09:51:29 AM
What is the good news you just heard, if I haven't missed any news then in the past 1 week since FTX crashed, no good news has been released. all market news is focused on FTX and its demise and all is negative news.

We are still in a bear market so no matter how good the news is, be careful and don't expect too much. Sometimes the news that comes out is just legitimizing the price, not necessarily the news that will make an impact on the market. Don't trade on news alone, combine it with technical analysis.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: chr1stian12 on November 18, 2022, 10:25:47 AM
We really don't know yet right now when the price will go either go upside or down . Watch some breakouts from the time frame that you are using to and that's the time you put your position. Yes good news take effects but the market should be the one to follow. Happy trading!


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: palle11 on November 18, 2022, 10:52:26 PM
What is the good news you just heard, if I haven't missed any news then in the past 1 week since FTX crashed, no good news has been released. all market news is focused on FTX and its demise and all is negative news.

We are still in a bear market so no matter how good the news is, be careful and don't expect too much. Sometimes the news that comes out is just legitimizing the price, not necessarily the news that will make an impact on the market. Don't trade on news alone, combine it with technical analysis.

On the contrary technical analysis will be difficult to combine with news but it can only help to give you the spate that bear can go because we still at the bear market. FTX crash is likely to continue the bear beyond the time it was suppose to last. We are approaching the end of the season and the market can go either way because of the rush. Technical analysis don't usually work during rush season.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Mahanton on November 18, 2022, 10:59:11 PM
What is the good news you just heard, if I haven't missed any news then in the past 1 week since FTX crashed, no good news has been released. all market news is focused on FTX and its demise and all is negative news.

We are still in a bear market so no matter how good the news is, be careful and don't expect too much. Sometimes the news that comes out is just legitimizing the price, not necessarily the news that will make an impact on the market. Don't trade on news alone, combine it with technical analysis.

On the contrary technical analysis will be difficult to combine with news but it can only help to give you the spate that bear can go because we still at the bear market. FTX crash is likely to continue the bear beyond the time it was suppose to last. We are approaching the end of the season and the market can go either way because of the rush. Technical analysis don't usually work during rush season.
As possible then it would be that good if you do apply both technical and fundamental analysis.Things becomes hard is on when that both things could really make out different signals or hints
whether they are on bearish or bullish sentiment which it would really be opposing and that what makes your mind boggle on where prices could actually go basing up on two different analysis.
News could really make out that mixed up or going against on what you had done on technical indicators.Positive news doesnt always mean that it would really make out positive movement
in market price.This is what you should bare up in mind.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Oceat on November 18, 2022, 11:29:26 PM
I don’t see any good news at present. If we don’t hear good news about crypto, we should wait and keep patience. I don’t see the crypto which isn’t moving this month. Late December or 2023 will be good for us.
Maybe he's talking about the altcoins market but most of those news are just to hype the market but nothing essential in those messages. In Bitcoin market it's rather different since most news are about FUD that would cause a panic and it keeps coming so the price will keep on declining. It's hard to make an assumption or prediction these days since we never know what will happen next or in the future. The best that we can do is just to wait and see and maybe we gotta see some pump that would move beyond $20k.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: worle1bm on November 19, 2022, 06:28:18 AM
See if you are saying about little investment into the market or El Salvador putting one bitcoin daily then frankly saying we don't have any good news in the market at all but we are in red circle at this time if you are actually looking at the charts and people have lost million of dollars with the current crash and you are saying we have good news and that also so many? So do you care to validate your statement


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Cryptmuster on November 19, 2022, 07:35:40 AM
In fact, if there is good news somewhere, there is very little of it, because lately we only see how big projects go bankrupt. This happens gradually, and thus the market does not have time to recover, as again we are presented with new bad news. The market will not be able to start growing as long as this continues and perhaps all this happens for some reason, there are reasons for everything, someone benefits from it.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Ziskinberg on November 19, 2022, 07:54:21 AM
In fact, if there is good news somewhere, there is very little of it, because lately we only see how big projects go bankrupt. This happens gradually, and thus the market does not have time to recover, as again we are presented with new bad news. The market will not be able to start growing as long as this continues and perhaps all this happens for some reason, there are reasons for everything, someone benefits from it.

But what I see is more on bad news which affecting more on the dump more. It looks like the good news that OP has read/seen is likely people are just ignoring it for it is possible that it never give a huge impact on the market and any interest. But, we also have to consider in the situation which we are in the bear season and no matter how many good news we see seems it never influences the price trend but it keeps panicking sellers weighing more on the negative side and continue selling.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: AicecreaME on November 19, 2022, 08:01:57 AM
Bearish market ain't over yet, that's why the whole market are flooded with red candles. Hurrying won't do anything good, you're just gonna give a lot of stress to yourself. Bull market will come, that's for sure, it's all about perseverance and a lot of patient on waiting, if you got bored and did panic sell, you lose, simple as that. If you're a hodler and does have plenty of funds, this is a good opportunity of buying dips to be profitable in long term.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Mauser on November 19, 2022, 08:26:38 AM
quote author=Fullbear2222 link=topic=5421581.msg61303608#msg61303608 date=1668636353]
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
[/quote]

What good news are you referring to, did I miss something this week? After the FTX bankruptcy I don't think we have a lot of good news happening. Buying right now is not a bad idea, the prices are very low right now for Bitcoins and most alt coins. The problem is that we don't know when prices are going to rise again. In my opinion it's not the right time to expect big price increases. It sounds a bit like you expect to prices rise to 25k USD again based on one or two good news? There is a lot of anxiety in the market right now and investors are cautious to see what is going to happen. Hopefully you didn't use leverage for your positions so you don't get knocked out too early. With the high volatility in the market right now we need to be more defensive and not expect a new trend in a single day. The year is almost over, christmas is around the corner and investors don't to finish the year in the deep red, better to be a bit defensive right now.    


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Ayers on November 19, 2022, 12:39:31 PM
What is the good news you just heard, if I haven't missed any news then in the past 1 week since FTX crashed, no good news has been released. all market news is focused on FTX and its demise and all is negative news.

We are still in a bear market so no matter how good the news is, be careful and don't expect too much. Sometimes the news that comes out is just legitimizing the price, not necessarily the news that will make an impact on the market. Don't trade on news alone, combine it with technical analysis.

On the contrary technical analysis will be difficult to combine with news but it can only help to give you the spate that bear can go because we still at the bear market. FTX crash is likely to continue the bear beyond the time it was suppose to last. We are approaching the end of the season and the market can go either way because of the rush. Technical analysis don't usually work during rush season.

We need to combine a lot of factors to come to a final conclusion, everything helps us to make predictions, there is no guarantee that when you do technical analysis, everything will turn out exactly as you see it and news too, not always good news helps the market move well. That's why we always say that the market is unpredictable.

I have a few friends who say that this market does not follow the law of supply and demand, it is being manipulated, so analysis is useless. If you want to make money, swim with the sharks, sometimes I find them right.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Issa56 on November 19, 2022, 05:46:57 PM
See if you are saying about little investment into the market or El Salvador putting one bitcoin daily then frankly saying we don't have any good news in the market at all but we are in red circle at this time if you are actually looking at the charts and people have lost million of dollars with the current crash and you are saying we have good news and that also so many? So do you care to validate your statement
El Salvador buying one bitcoin daily is also a good news but I don't think that kind of news can move the market, it's also a good news but it's not strong enough to pump bitcoin price. Bitcoin might be down for now but when it's time for bitcoin to start moving upward it will definitely do, I believe their will soon be some news that will be able to pump back bitcoin but for now let's enjoy the bear market, let's use the bear market opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin and let's hope everything is going to bounce back very soon.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Uzairjutt275 on November 19, 2022, 06:10:10 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


At this time there is no any goods news for all because recently FTX coin crashed it's price go down and also FTX exchange crashed. There is no good news but waiting for good news in future. When market will turn into green and price of altcoins will go up. Waiting for this moment.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: The Cryptovator on November 19, 2022, 07:03:09 PM
To be honest, I don't see why Bitcoin should start pumping right now, when there is so much bad news. I'm just curious where the OP got the good news. It would be more specific with the reference. So we can acknowledge how positive the news is. We saw a couple of bad news stories in a short period of time, such as the Luna and FTX drama. So the market is still suffering as a result of these two components of bad news. And I rarely see good news, but when I do, it is too weak to see the market recover.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 19, 2022, 07:19:36 PM
To be honest, I don't see why Bitcoin should start pumping right now, when there is so much bad news. I'm just curious where the OP got the good news. It would be more specific with the reference. So we can acknowledge how positive the news is. We saw a couple of bad news stories in a short period of time, such as the Luna and FTX drama. So the market is still suffering as a result of these two components of bad news. And I rarely see good news, but when I do, it is too weak to see the market recover.
Even having bad news doesnt mean that it would dump.It could or can decrease without any news around and that what makes it unpredictable.Its true that it is really hard to presume out that we would be having a

bull run,considering that we are wrapped with very negative incidents and issues that we are currently facing.So i dont see an enough reason for some catalyst on making the market increase out.

@OP, where and what are the good news that you had able to read upon? Seems like i had just missed out on reading those or i wasnt really
that updated nor aware about on those things itself.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: KingsDen on November 19, 2022, 07:53:11 PM
Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up


In our daily lives and in our neighborhood we understand that bad news flies more than good news.
Someone might give birth and no one will be aware in the neighborhood but immediately a neighbour dies the information will go around and people will murn.
That is how it works in nature even here in the cryptocurrency industry. Whenever there is a bad news in the industry it will affect the market drastically but for a good news to overturn the market, the weight of the news need to be very heavy. I doubt that such a news that will overpowere FTX bankruptcy will suffice this time around. Our hope is just the 2024 halving


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Falconer on November 19, 2022, 08:03:11 PM
In our daily lives and in our neighborhood we understand that bad news flies more than good news.
Someone might give birth and no one will be aware in the neighborhood but immediately a neighbour dies the information will go around and people will murn.
That is how it works in nature even here in the cryptocurrency industry. Whenever there is a bad news in the industry it will affect the market drastically but for a good news to overturn the market, the weight of the news need to be very heavy. I doubt that such a news that will overpowere FTX bankruptcy will suffice this time around. Our hope is just the 2024 halving
I didn't expect FTX to have such a severe impact on the crypto industry that it would cause the bitcoin price to maintain a bearish trend. The industry is only getting better with more adoption, but it's clear the ride isn't going to be as smooth as one might hope. If FTX doesn't fail, then there's always a chance that other news will impact the market. But if you are really positive about crypto, then this has to be the best moment to enter the market.

After all, halvings may not be the only savior for the market, but there are always many other things that will be able to move investors or traders into the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Anguwa on November 20, 2022, 10:16:30 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

That is not the case in Bitcoin market, when we get good news, it has to cover up for the effects the bad news has already did to the market before it has its own effect that can pump the coin again. But if you look how the bear market is now, you will notice that once there is a good news and it has started having effect then another bad news will just come again, this is the reason why the bear market is still here.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: cozytrade on November 20, 2022, 10:36:51 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


Where you saw so much good news! All I see is some fud and uncertainty going on the market. People do not know whom to trust. Genesis is looking for a 1B loan by Monday but it seems no one is interested. Do you think a tweet about buying 1 bitcoin every day from some Twitter celebrity will pump the market? Now regulators could bring more bad news into the market. I saw no reason for the market to pump right now though we are very close to the bottom.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Yamifoud on November 20, 2022, 11:53:48 AM
Might have but never I notice it because what is see is more on Binance and FTX drama OP.
Or might I've missed them but sadly, the good news that you have seen aren't good enough to gain attention in the community as they are more interesting on the negative side.

You might wonder why we are still in the bear market, yet we can't simply change the course of the trend until Bitcoin does the rally first.
The bull season will come soon...don't worry about it as you could still earn profit as long as you will wait.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: cheezcarls on November 20, 2022, 01:18:26 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


No doubt that you are a complete newbie in this space. Are you expecting that if there is always a good news popping up you mean that it will be a bull run for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies? That’s not always the case, especially the fact that we are still affected by the FTX downturn.

You’ve got to accept the fact that in the world of crypto, there are no promises or guarantees when it comes to the price movement even if it’s a lot of good news.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: palle11 on November 20, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
What is the good news you just heard, if I haven't missed any news then in the past 1 week since FTX crashed, no good news has been released. all market news is focused on FTX and its demise and all is negative news.

We are still in a bear market so no matter how good the news is, be careful and don't expect too much. Sometimes the news that comes out is just legitimizing the price, not necessarily the news that will make an impact on the market. Don't trade on news alone, combine it with technical analysis.

On the contrary technical analysis will be difficult to combine with news but it can only help to give you the spate that bear can go because we still at the bear market. FTX crash is likely to continue the bear beyond the time it was suppose to last. We are approaching the end of the season and the market can go either way because of the rush. Technical analysis don't usually work during rush season.



I have a few friends who say that this market does not follow the law of supply and demand, ,

I agree with your few friends that this market don't follow the law of demand and supply because it is not regulated, then it is not interactive market where you see buyers and sellers together in a physical market bargaining and selling. The emotions are not the same.


it is being manipulated


I don't really know the extent, it may because it is not regulated.


so analysis is useless. If you want to make money, swim with the sharks, sometimes I find them right.


Analysis are never useless in this market. They are very good tools to confidently ride the market. Do a proper analysis then you can milk the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: alik111 on November 20, 2022, 02:22:12 PM
Because of Fear every crypto traders are selling there funds. Fear and Greed index also very high. That's why market is moving like sideways. Hope it will recover soon after a good news in crypto market. Otherwise it will go more deep. So we should wait for that moment.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 20, 2022, 02:45:04 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

That is not the case in Bitcoin market, when we get good news, it has to cover up for the effects the bad news has already did to the market before it has its own effect that can pump the coin again. But if you look how the bear market is now, you will notice that once there is a good news and it has started having effect then another bad news will just come again, this is the reason why the bear market is still here.
When good news is released, it is not guaranteed to move the bitcoin price to increase because if the good news does not have a large impact on the market, the price of bitcoin or altcoins will not increase significantly either. But if a pump is going on in the market, even if there isn't any news, it can still move the market. Bear markets are still happening and we really hope to see bull markets come back again. Meanwhile, we don't need to be triggered by bad news because it will reduce our vigilance in analyzing the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: AakZaki on November 20, 2022, 06:07:55 PM
To be honest, I don't see why Bitcoin should start pumping right now, when there is so much bad news. I'm just curious where the OP got the good news. It would be more specific with the reference. So we can acknowledge how positive the news is. We saw a couple of bad news stories in a short period of time, such as the Luna and FTX drama. So the market is still suffering as a result of these two components of bad news. And I rarely see good news, but when I do, it is too weak to see the market recover.
there will be a right time for the market to recover from the current slump. Positive news is still not strong enough to lift the market back to normal. But when the positive news continues to emerge and the negative news subsides, it's time for the crypto market to rise. The drama that happened to FTX and the collapse of Luna had a very significant impact on the state of the crypto market. Hopefully such a drama will not be repeated and will not burden the crypto market even more. After this there will be some news that will make crypto bullish and we will all enjoy it.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: yhiaali3 on November 20, 2022, 06:44:17 PM
What good news are you talking about, man? For a while, we have not heard anything of good news, but bad news in a row. We have not yet come out of the bad impact of the FTX incident and many before it.
In any case, you should not forget an important fact that news is not the only one that affects the market. There are many factors that affect the market and the news is only one of them, so do not expect a rapid rise once you hear some good news, you have to analyze the factors affecting the market well and when you see the indicators pointing to the rise only then you can talk about the rise, otherwise you You need to be patient and wait for the market situation to improve and remember that every Bitcoin drop is a new buying opportunity.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Viscore on November 20, 2022, 09:37:14 PM
because the good news you mean (though I don't know what it is) didn't really please the market, and the impact of the previous issue caused a lot of damage the market lost confidence and they needed time to recover and trust in cryptos again, because the problem with the exchange, market was so thinking what to do if the exchange place for cryptos activity turns out to be not a place to be trusted.
I don’t even see good news happening these days, but definitely its more on negative issues that the market is presently facing. Although I have to say there may be some positive news that are unnoticeable, but they were not significant in the market at all so most probably, they don’t also leave positive impact to the crypto market. And while the market is still in a bearish state, so expect that crypto prices are more down today.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fatunad on November 20, 2022, 09:59:36 PM
because the good news you mean (though I don't know what it is) didn't really please the market, and the impact of the previous issue caused a lot of damage the market lost confidence and they needed time to recover and trust in cryptos again, because the problem with the exchange, market was so thinking what to do if the exchange place for cryptos activity turns out to be not a place to be trusted.
I don’t even see good news happening these days, but definitely its more on negative issues that the market is presently facing. Although I have to say there may be some positive news that are unnoticeable, but they were not significant in the market at all so most probably, they don’t also leave positive impact to the crypto market. And while the market is still in a bearish state, so expect that crypto prices are more down today.
Maybe those good news would be particularly talking about El Salvador purchasing 1btc per day?
Nayib Bukele announces Bitcoin prescription for El Salvador: 1 BTC a day
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nayib-bukele-announces-bitcoin-prescription-for-el-salvador-1-btc-a-day

This is the only positive news we do have on this bear market.The rest is shit which did really cause for this market to go down.
But eventually these are the things which needed for us to buy cheap coins.So its a matter of risk taking.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: BitcoinPanther on November 20, 2022, 10:03:58 PM
It is possible that the good news doesn't outweigh the effect of the present fiasco that happens in the cryptocurrency industry.  The FTX effect is too huge to be easily overwritten by some small good news.  In order to outweigh the current effect of FTX, the industry needs a massive good news like some developed country getting bullish over Bitcoin and accept it as legal tender.  Now that is a kind of news that will move the market instantly but sadly I think we won't be hearing news like that any time soon.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Ayers on November 20, 2022, 11:14:43 PM


it is being manipulated


I don't really know the extent, it may because it is not regulated.
If you compare the market capitalization with the gold or stock market capitalization, cryptocurrencies are very small and unregulated, manipulation is inevitable. To me, the cryptomarket is like a money game where whoever has the most money wins.

so analysis is useless. If you want to make money, swim with the sharks, sometimes I find them right.


Analysis are never useless in this market. They are very good tools to confidently ride the market. Do a proper analysis then you can milk the market.

Maybe it won't be completely useless like I said but the effect it brings is not high. Because I think the market is still being manipulated by some big forces, the market does not operate according to supply and demand, so it cannot be analyzed. Bitcoin price can react unexpectedly if some news is published then all analysis will no longer hold true.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Mr.right85 on November 20, 2022, 11:24:35 PM
Maybe it won't be completely useless like I said but the effect it brings is not high. Because I think the market is still being manipulated by some big forces, the market does not operate according to supply and demand, so it cannot be analyzed. Bitcoin price can react unexpectedly if some news is published then all analysis will no longer hold true.
It's hard to understand reasons as to why the market doesn't follow the law of demand and supply in its operation even in a manipulated market situation as I we would want to believe.
These news, these manipulations of the elements to the crypto market are what pushes a reaction that might lead investors to flood the market with coins or pushes price down or maybe get investors to holding more coins, buy more coins and gets price up.

That seems very much like the law of demand and supply in play to me. Acting in an inverse reaction based on what strings are been pulled.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fredomago on November 21, 2022, 03:15:52 AM
It is possible that the good news doesn't outweigh the effect of the present fiasco that happens in the cryptocurrency industry.  The FTX effect is too huge to be easily overwritten by some small good news.  In order to outweigh the current effect of FTX, the industry needs a massive good news like some developed country getting bullish over Bitcoin and accept it as legal tender.  Now that is a kind of news that will move the market instantly but sadly I think we won't be hearing news like that any time soon.

The decline continues to bring more fears with the investors and traders, we are seeing after effects coming from FTX more and more holders are selling and not willing to keep their assets, like what you have said if there's good news from developed countries, news that they are going to allow crypto / bitcoin, it will bring good impact for sure.

But as of this moment, we might not see any, as there are many frustrated investors that might move their money from other alternatives to invest and recover.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: rat03gopoh on November 21, 2022, 03:46:28 AM
This is the only positive news we do have on this bear market.

I always worry that when bitcoin buying plans are announced by large institutions, retail investors are getting less and less opportunity to buy and ownership will become dispersed. Given that bitcoin has surpassed the discount price of the futuristic asset average, they must have bought a large amount. If suddenly they dump all their bitcoins because of policies, well you know the consequences


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: BD Crypto on November 21, 2022, 10:30:48 AM
In a bear or sideways market it's very tough to make money. You can use future trading and short cryptos to make some profits. Actually when a bear market comes almost everyone has fear of losing value. That's why panic sellers sell their tokens and dump the market more. Wait for the bull season and you can invest in this cheap market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 21, 2022, 02:12:36 PM
In a bear or sideways market it's very tough to make money. You can use future trading and short cryptos to make some profits. Actually when a bear market comes almost everyone has fear of losing value. That's why panic sellers sell their tokens and dump the market more. Wait for the bull season and you can invest in this cheap market.
It's someone that doesn't know the rudiments of cryptocurrency that will be in panicked to sell out of their coins when bearish market is approaching, so therefore the experience of existing investors in cryptocurrency supposed have let other people know what is obtainable via cryptocurrency.

Someone who's the technology of Bitcoin better supposed not to be curious selling out of their coins, because it's very obvious that cryptocurrency most surely increase whenever it falls or decrease in the market, so this is one of the major concept new investors fails to understand concerning the regulations of cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. Bearish market just gives the investor's room to accumulate their investment.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Woodie on November 21, 2022, 03:31:54 PM
Why coins not going up ?
One of the many reasons that is usually overlooked is having too many crypto coins competing for the same investor capital out there... If we want to see BTC go up we need concentrated coin pumping of one coin and not  the distributed resources.

If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
Unfortunately crypto doesn't work like Forex which usually reacts with how news comes, to get an instant reaction other factors need to come in play and one of those is demand and liquidity.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

LOL Signals do work but they are dependent on the signal provider and to make money you need to invest in getting some trading knowledge and try leveraged trading.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Silberman on November 21, 2022, 07:10:52 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Unless you consider all the news about coins and exchanges crashing down as good news, which could be the case depending on your perspective as it is better for the market to have less scammers tricking people into investing in whatever project they are promoting, I think many of us would like to see your source of good news, as what we are seeing right now seems to be the opposite of it, and as such it is natural the price keeps going down.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Captain Corporate on November 21, 2022, 07:21:50 PM
The good news and the bad news together shouldn't really matter, it should be a lot better and I fear that people are overreacting to this news. Neither bad nor good news should impact it as much as it is right now. I know that people are afraid of what could happen, but that doesn't mean that it will happen that terribly just because there is a piece of bad news. For example, when Luna happened, that just pertains to Luna and maybe a small amount to others, but yet bitcoin crashed hard, why? People sold their bitcoins when they heard Luna news, but WHY? What was the relation to it? Same with FTX now, I get the ones that are affected by this, they lost their money, but WHY sell your bitcoins just because FTX was bankrupted, what's it to you? These unreasonable sales end up causing crashes.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 21, 2022, 07:26:20 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Unless you consider all the news about coins and exchanges crashing down as good news, which could be the case depending on your perspective as it is better for the market to have less scammers tricking people into investing in whatever project they are promoting, I think many of us would like to see your source of good news, as what we are seeing right now seems to be the opposite of it, and as such it is natural the price keeps going down.
Source of good news would be most likely can be seen into those crypto news outlets or sites but eventually there are more those fuds or negative news rather than on positive ones if we do really check out well.

This is why you could really totally oppose on what he's been saying about positive stuffs because we arent really seeing at all.So it does really raises up some question on where the hell he had been looking for
such news as the community doesnt really seem able to see on what he's seeing.

As for news or generally talking about in relation about fundamentals, then any news whether negative or positive cant really assure that it could bring or get some
effects on market overall, this is why its wise not to take action every now and then.



Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ice18 on November 22, 2022, 03:38:40 AM
What good news are you talking about, All I can see are bearish news and media is making it more compilated to everyone resulting into more panic from investors, this moment in crypto will totally put you in a situation if you are real hodler or not but there is no reason to panic at all,  time will come market will be in uptrend again, still best strategy is to buy the dip and hold. 


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: borovichok on November 23, 2022, 02:40:04 AM
What good news are you talking about, All I can see are bearish news and media is making it more compilated to everyone resulting into more panic from investors, this moment in crypto will totally put you in a situation if you are real hodler or not but there is no reason to panic at all,  time will come market will be in uptrend again, still best strategy is to buy the dip and hold. 
Top influencers and whales are the ones turning the market both in bear and bull. Buying the dip and waiting for the bullish run-up is probably one of the best strategy any trader or investor could possibly adapt. The market is currently down at the moment and the experience traders are taking advantage of it, using their time to bagged more pieces of the shitcoins with promising future and also getting the top coins in the market like the native coin of Binance,  Bitcoin and Ethereum from exchanges.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: crwth on November 23, 2022, 02:46:36 AM
Would the most recent news involving a large exchange significant deed to be the top 2, crumbling, lead to people going in more? Of course, for us, it's an opportunity to buy, but the current market will move slowly even if there is good news. It doesn't work that way. People need to have a build-up and significant news regards to it. Things should be organic so that you would be able to have sustainable growth as well.

You know that the market doesn't revolve around you, right? It wouldn't follow anyone.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 23, 2022, 06:39:10 AM
What good news are you talking about, All I can see are bearish news and media is making it more compilated to everyone resulting into more panic from investors, this moment in crypto will totally put you in a situation if you are real hodler or not but there is no reason to panic at all,  time will come market will be in uptrend again, still best strategy is to buy the dip and hold. 
Top influencers and whales are the ones turning the market both in bear and bull. Buying the dip and waiting for the bullish run-up is probably one of the best strategy any trader or investor could possibly adapt. The market is currently down at the moment and the experience traders are taking advantage of it, using their time to bagged more pieces of the shitcoins with promising future and also getting the top coins in the market like the native coin of Binance,  Bitcoin and Ethereum from exchanges.
One thing I have learned from you people is that you always like to find virtual reasons for everything, but you are often wrong. Because you know a few people buying shitcoin, does it mean that whales are doing that too? If you truly could prove this, show us. What I know as an experienced trader is that market tends to fall in such a situation of FTX, it is normal.

And if I may ask you, is it only Bitcoin that sold off and is currently around its year low? Even some of these shitcoins sold more than twice of their value because of the news. So what are you talking about?


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fredomago on November 23, 2022, 08:37:19 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Unless you consider all the news about coins and exchanges crashing down as good news, which could be the case depending on your perspective as it is better for the market to have less scammers tricking people into investing in whatever project they are promoting, I think many of us would like to see your source of good news, as what we are seeing right now seems to be the opposite of it, and as such it is natural the price keeps going down.
Source of good news would be most likely can be seen into those crypto news outlets or sites but eventually there are more those fuds or negative news rather than on positive ones if we do really check out well.

This is why you could really totally oppose on what he's been saying about positive stuffs because we arent really seeing at all.So it does really raises up some question on where the hell he had been looking for
such news as the community doesnt really seem able to see on what he's seeing.

As for news or generally talking about in relation about fundamentals, then any news whether negative or positive cant really assure that it could bring or get some
effects on market overall, this is why its wise not to take action every now and then.



News are changng factors so real investors seek for deeper information and how it will impact the entrire industry, we can see  good news from the legit crypto sources and we will be able to weight if that such news will bring good impact, afterwards we will place our position and wait for the market to recognize the change.

While same with bad news, we just need to wait if there's strong or solid impact to the market, if does, we should be aware that the chance of dump always accompany behind, timing is the key and if you manage to make your investment during the dump, once market recovers then you will earn decently.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: arwin100 on November 23, 2022, 11:59:38 AM
What good news are you talking about, All I can see are bearish news and media is making it more compilated to everyone resulting into more panic from investors, this moment in crypto will totally put you in a situation if you are real hodler or not but there is no reason to panic at all,  time will come market will be in uptrend again, still best strategy is to buy the dip and hold. 

Most of the contents on a discussion I read is all about but news like FTX scam and other things which corelate about the incidents happen recently. Those one are so huge and small good news cannot change anything with it since many people still think about that we will experience a long bearish season this year. That's why also its hard for certain individual especially those new one to believe that everything will be alright and recovery will happen soon if they see how bad the price drop at the moment.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Hamza2424 on November 23, 2022, 08:26:48 PM
The reason is upcoming festivals never consider December can be a Bullish month in my views we can expect a ground of 14k again from whatever price. Be prepared as far i know Its going to be hard getting out of this zone this year. As far you can say 2022 darkest year for Bitcoin hahaha too many sweeps.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Oilacris on November 23, 2022, 09:15:30 PM
Would the most recent news involving a large exchange significant deed to be the top 2, crumbling, lead to people going in more? Of course, for us, it's an opportunity to buy, but the current market will move slowly even if there is good news. It doesn't work that way. People need to have a build-up and significant news regards to it. Things should be organic so that you would be able to have sustainable growth as well.

You know that the market doesn't revolve around you, right? It wouldn't follow anyone.
No matter how good the news is but still it wont really be that enough on changing up the trend on one snap, unless if we do see a series of positive news which is something be considered big

then it might really be giving some significant change in the market but it wont really be that an assurance.There's no way that it would really be moving according on what the current condition
basing up on news around in the market.

It could really move on a very random way and there's no one could tell on where it would be heading.Dont make yourself that easy to follow
basing up on the fundamentals you are seeing around.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Sanitough on November 23, 2022, 09:47:22 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

If the market is really in good position, then it’s always certain that we will see crypto prices going up. But it’s not happening now, because there are more of negative news coming around than those positive news. And if there might be few positive events that hit the market, those events might not bring significance to the market that made the market fall more and become unstable.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 23, 2022, 11:08:34 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.

Because, getting here, people are increasingly realizing that it takes bigger news to make crypto go up again. And some good news can only make crypto go wild for a while and then dump again. This has made several games in the crypto market unchanged. This is different when there is FUD being spread, the crypto market will more easily drop and even crash by itself. Why? because many people panic very easily and choose to make decisions quickly.
People may think that the crypto market will be rising up only after the Bitcoin halving happened. Although there are some altcoins that are able to skyrocket, they will be crashed easily after reaching their ATH soon. This is because of the scheme of pump and dump that always happen in this crypto market. And this, becaosem also one of the bad things of crypto market so far.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: danherbias07 on November 24, 2022, 08:26:23 AM
How I wish there are good news. Maybe I am in a parallel world as I have not seen them yet.

Don't worry. Even if good news is not yet out and just building up, or someone leaked it out but it had not gone thru mainstream media yet, there will definitely be a pump next to it.
Those whales will start buying back expecting a big wave to come. They would always want to be dragged by that kind of flow just before everyone knows about it.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Silberman on November 24, 2022, 07:38:18 PM
How I wish there are good news. Maybe I am in a parallel world as I have not seen them yet.

Don't worry. Even if good news is not yet out and just building up, or someone leaked it out but it had not gone thru mainstream media yet, there will definitely be a pump next to it.
Those whales will start buying back expecting a big wave to come. They would always want to be dragged by that kind of flow just before everyone knows about it.
The whales are so influential that it should be obvious that they do not really buy when a news is published, instead they probably have all kind of contacts which supply them the news days or even weeks in advance, this is how they can always take advantage of the conditions of the market as they are not really reacting to the news as the rest of us have to do, but instead they take preemptive action and as such they can always be on the right side of every trade in an almost effortlessly way.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fatunad on November 24, 2022, 07:48:57 PM
How I wish there are good news. Maybe I am in a parallel world as I have not seen them yet.

Don't worry. Even if good news is not yet out and just building up, or someone leaked it out but it had not gone thru mainstream media yet, there will definitely be a pump next to it.
Those whales will start buying back expecting a big wave to come. They would always want to be dragged by that kind of flow just before everyone knows about it.
The whales are so influential that it should be obvious that they do not really buy when a news is published, instead they probably have all kind of contacts which supply them the news days or even weeks in advance, this is how they can always take advantage of the conditions of the market as they are not really reacting to the news as the rest of us have to do, but instead they take preemptive action and as such they can always be on the right side of every trade in an almost effortlessly way.
Cant really be that precise on what you had said which there's no way that we would be able to know on what are the things which these whales would be doing out.
Whether they would buy or not, there's no way on identifying that its them.So im not really that into minding on what are the things that they had done.Speaking about news
then its always been part of the market but we do know that news could really be having that effect.So its a hit or miss if you do presume out
whether it would be going down or not basing on the sentiment that you could see around.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Volimack on November 24, 2022, 08:28:14 PM
The market always reacts not exactly as we would like. It should be understood that it is extremely difficult to predict the behavior of the market on a particular factor.

Trending markets are maximum time follow the mother coin like bitcoin,  we remember that bitcoin when the price structure goes up trend so then another coin move to touch on the top buttom, but bitcoin is only for long time investment product, other products (I mean shitcoin) few time profitable but holding a long time on hazardous. 


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ScamViruS on November 24, 2022, 08:47:46 PM
The market always reacts not exactly as we would like. It should be understood that it is extremely difficult to predict the behavior of the market on a particular factor.

Trending markets are maximum time follow the mother coin like bitcoin,  we remember that bitcoin when the price structure goes up trend so then another coin move to touch on the top buttom, but bitcoin is only for long time investment product, other products (I mean shitcoin) few time profitable but holding a long time on hazardous. 

The price of all coins depends on Bitcoin. If the Bitcoin market is stable, then the other strong altcoins also start to rise. And pump and dump shitcoins can only be considered for short-term investment, because these coins have no future. If you have followed the last bull market, you will understand how the whole crypto market got recklessly up with Bitcoin. So in order to take the right decision in favor of the market, one has to review everything including the history of the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Kelvinid on November 24, 2022, 09:54:17 PM
How I wish there are good news. Maybe I am in a parallel world as I have not seen them yet.

Don't worry. Even if good news is not yet out and just building up, or someone leaked it out but it had not gone thru mainstream media yet, there will definitely be a pump next to it.
Those whales will start buying back expecting a big wave to come. They would always want to be dragged by that kind of flow just before everyone knows about it.
Always to see that whales are taking advantage of the situation while there are big price deductions in the market. They are making these panic sellers fools while whales are buying them low. I know people have noticed it but when emotions strike us, we can never think about it as our mind is covered already with negativity, not optimism. Too late to realize that we are wrong and that is why whales become richer while casual investors remain the same.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ShowOff on November 24, 2022, 09:56:11 PM
The price of all coins depends on Bitcoin. If the Bitcoin market is stable, then the other strong altcoins also start to rise. And pump and dump shitcoins can only be considered for short-term investment, because these coins have no future. If you have followed the last bull market, you will understand how the whole crypto market got recklessly up with Bitcoin. So in order to take the right decision in favor of the market, one has to review everything including the history of the market.
It all depends on bitcoin, you could say it's true because if we look at the price chart, the decline in altcoin prices is almost the same as the percentage decrease in bitcoin. So bitcoin may be the reason why altcoin prices are not improving at the moment, but if I may suggest then stay away from altcoin that are only known for pump and dump. It will be very risky to lose money.

Even if they believe in the potential of altcoins in the long term, then they should choose the best list for their investment without ever ignored bitcoin as the main investment. Bitcoin is a must-have investment asset if they are really interested in long-term investing. The more the better, but they can still invest in altcoins for an asset diversification strategy.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: TimeTeller on November 24, 2022, 09:59:10 PM
The price of all coins depends on Bitcoin. If the Bitcoin market is stable, then the other strong altcoins also start to rise. And pump and dump shitcoins can only be considered for short-term investment, because these coins have no future. If you have followed the last bull market, you will understand how the whole crypto market got recklessly up with Bitcoin. So in order to take the right decision in favor of the market, one has to review everything including the history of the market.
It all depends on bitcoin, you could say it's true because if we look at the price chart, the decline in altcoin prices is almost the same as the percentage decrease in bitcoin. So bitcoin may be the reason why altcoin prices are not improving at the moment, but if I may suggest then stay away from altcoin that are only known for pump and dump. It will be very risky to lose money.

Even if they believe in the potential of altcoins in the long term, then they should choose the best list for their investment without ever ignored bitcoin as the main investment. Bitcoin is a must-have investment asset if they are really interested in long-term investing. The more the better, but they can still invest in altcoins for an asset diversification strategy.

Up until now, the market trend highly relies on bitcoin's performance.
If you will venture in the alt projects, choose which one has long-term use case in the market.
Without strong use case, it can easily go down or disappear. Don't believe the FUD, check the facts.
If you want assurance, go for the top alts with rock solid foundation, like BNB.
But even holding top alts, you also need to keep an eye with the news as it will give you hints what's coming.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ScamViruS on November 24, 2022, 10:06:29 PM
Even if they believe in the potential of altcoins in the long term, then they should choose the best list for their investment without ever ignored bitcoin as the main investment. Bitcoin is a must-have investment asset if they are really interested in long-term investing. The more the better, but they can still invest in altcoins for an asset diversification strategy.

Here's what has happened to various altcoins in the crypto market in recent times. This makes investing in any coin extra cautious, as those who have witnessed these incidents know very well that anything can happen. And the most final thing is that the altcoin market will follow bitcoin, the projects called potential coins have also crashed with bitcoin being dumped. So now I'm interested in focusing more on Bitcoin.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Finestream on November 24, 2022, 10:23:53 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Well, it’s obvious that mostly are happening today are negative events that made the market more down and bearish. So expect that the crypto coins will never gain significant prices unless the bullish market starts to take over the bearish one. And when that happens, everything will paid off and we will gain positive results on our long term investments. But for now, it’s impossible to gain maximum profits when everything in the market is doing bad.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fredomago on November 24, 2022, 10:59:00 PM
How I wish there are good news. Maybe I am in a parallel world as I have not seen them yet.

Don't worry. Even if good news is not yet out and just building up, or someone leaked it out but it had not gone thru mainstream media yet, there will definitely be a pump next to it.
Those whales will start buying back expecting a big wave to come. They would always want to be dragged by that kind of flow just before everyone knows about it.
Always to see that whales are taking advantage of the situation while there are big price deductions in the market. They are making these panic sellers fools while whales are buying them low. I know people have noticed it but when emotions strike us, we can never think about it as our mind is covered already with negativity, not optimism. Too late to realize that we are wrong and that is why whales become richer while casual investors remain the same.

Whales are gamers, they know when to shake and they know when to pump, once they move the market hardly either to dump down or to pump up, they will get the results that they are aiming, we can't tell what they are really trying but for sure they will back up the majorities and they will bring big impact.

Moving back, there is no big news yet that can bring the bull back. It's just a small bounce, maybe because of some buyers and new investors who are starting their journey towards this market.

They are sorting it up and trying to buy those cheap coins that are currently on sale.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Quidat on November 24, 2022, 11:42:07 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Well, it’s obvious that mostly are happening today are negative events that made the market more down and bearish. So expect that the crypto coins will never gain significant prices unless the bullish market starts to take over the bearish one. And when that happens, everything will paid off and we will gain positive results on our long term investments. But for now, it’s impossible to gain maximum profits when everything in the market is doing bad.
When hacking, bankruptcy,exploits etc. do consecutively happened on the market then this is where FUD would really be starting.It is really a normal impression or emotion
for us to see whenever the market is really on that kind of situation which negativity do circles around then fear and confidence would be mainly be affected.Some do look after
about fundamentals and if the market do make out some positive news then this is where people assume out that there would be recovery after that
which it isnt always been the case as we all know.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Peanutswar on November 24, 2022, 11:45:45 PM
What kind of news did you get? Because until now most of the news comes up to my feed is all about the market crash, bankruptcy, market manipulation and etc. Currently the market is now sitting at the 15-19k and if this support break already for sure we are waiving again with the 7k support or we meet again the 3k like the same scenario last March 2019. Currently swing trade only ideal today but holding a long position not yet might happen.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 28, 2022, 06:20:04 PM
What kind of news did you get? Because until now most of the news comes up to my feed is all about the market crash, bankruptcy, market manipulation and etc. Currently the market is now sitting at the 15-19k and if this support break already for sure we are waiving again with the 7k support or we meet again the 3k like the same scenario last March 2019. Currently swing trade only ideal today but holding a long position not yet might happen.

Well, I am also curious to know where he received news, personally I always follow articles and I am informed of what many have a point of view about the market, although one achieves a balance or something that tells me that what they say is I really cannot trust such information, because everything becomes mere speculation, and the news is usually manipulated by the largest whales in the world, that is something that I could not cover with a finger, for me there are still many things to know , that people learn to interpret the news too, only in this way can you know what news is relevant or not.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fatunad on November 28, 2022, 08:49:50 PM
What kind of news did you get? Because until now most of the news comes up to my feed is all about the market crash, bankruptcy, market manipulation and etc. Currently the market is now sitting at the 15-19k and if this support break already for sure we are waiving again with the 7k support or we meet again the 3k like the same scenario last March 2019. Currently swing trade only ideal today but holding a long position not yet might happen.

Well, I am also curious to know where he received news, personally I always follow articles and I am informed of what many have a point of view about the market, although one achieves a balance or something that tells me that what they say is I really cannot trust such information, because everything becomes mere speculation, and the news is usually manipulated by the largest whales in the world, that is something that I could not cover with a finger, for me there are still many things to know , that people learn to interpret the news too, only in this way can you know what news is relevant or not.

When those news been published out on most common crypto news sites then same as you said that i cant really just trust up those words.Everything could really be having that
kind of manipulative intent or just pure event which it is really hard to trust up nowadays which i couldnt really blamed for people to have this kind of impression on this way.
There's no indicative signs and this is why its really hard to make out some actions and we do keep on guessing and observing on how this market moves.
Good news or Bad news, its not a solid thing which we could say that it would really be making out significant effect in the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: EdenHazard on November 28, 2022, 11:58:19 PM
Even if they believe in the potential of altcoins in the long term, then they should choose the best list for their investment without ever ignored bitcoin as the main investment. Bitcoin is a must-have investment asset if they are really interested in long-term investing. The more the better, but they can still invest in altcoins for an asset diversification strategy.

Here's what has happened to various altcoins in the crypto market in recent times. This makes investing in any coin extra cautious, as those who have witnessed these incidents know very well that anything can happen. And the most final thing is that the altcoin market will follow bitcoin, the projects called potential coins have also crashed with bitcoin being dumped. So now I'm interested in focusing more on Bitcoin.
Well actially you cannot rely on fundamentals like news only.

There are much higher impact like the technical one on bitcoin , on how bitcoin could dismiss the current hot topic on how exchanges could be really trusted store customers money as recently people in fear due ftx scandals , the most high impact driving us to this level even lower, we will get through this but it might takes longer than we think , that's why a lot of people called the crypto winter is here to eliminate a non-believer.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: sulendra12 on November 29, 2022, 12:17:29 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
What good news you have found if you don't mind to share?
I don't recall single good news this month where the main focus of the news is the FTX collapse and Binance, also other cryptocurrency scams still going on in this platform. If the good news happen later, then we can expect the good sign in the future but as you can see we don't have any good news rather than only bad news for past few months.

It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
It's not impossible.
You just don't know what to do, if you can put your analysis to the right place and then you can actually grab few percent profit of your capital. Yet people only keep complaining  :-[ :-[


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on November 29, 2022, 12:56:43 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


  -  As far as I know, this cryptocurrency world is very volatile, don't you know that? Which is the market is unpredictable. If the coins are not rising often now, that is proof that we are still in the bear market.

Also if you look at the listed coins on coinmarketcap even on the top exchanges you will see all red, which is difficult to get a profit at the moment, now if you apply the scalping methods it is also quite difficult to do because it is too high also of risk. So the best thing to do in the meantime is to wait.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: joeperry on November 29, 2022, 02:49:51 PM
As the saying goes, patience is a virtue, it is a vital thing to do in such situations. The market has undergone to its low point, but that doesn’t mean that it won’t go up. Any trader would be aware by now that crypto market is highly volatile, there is no guarantee for exact returns but if you would take a leap of faith, then you might just get what you desire. But of course, on top of this, undeserving of the market itself would really help for a trader to see his standpoint, to be able to set goals and implement strategies. When one is aware, being persuaded by speculations and tense by nerve wracking news won’t be a basis for doubting trading plans, but would help in sticking to the plan and doing analysis.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 29, 2022, 02:59:02 PM
What sort of news you considered to be good? Sometimes people says that certain coin pumps but actually that are not so high to get some sort of extra income but is as high to reduce your loss. Other thing is that not each and every moment is in favor of participants, at some moment there will be hurdles you face, now  everyone has to be patience ant wait for the accurate time.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Mahanton on November 29, 2022, 07:59:09 PM
What sort of news you considered to be good? Sometimes people says that certain coin pumps but actually that are not so high to get some sort of extra income but is as high to reduce your loss. Other thing is that not each and every moment is in favor of participants, at some moment there will be hurdles you face, now  everyone has to be patience ant wait for the accurate time.
News or  events could be classified as good or bad basing up on the thing which are currently happening in the market but its true that it doesnt always give out significant impact
within the market and this is why when you are a trader who do fully rely with fundamentals then it would really be hard on handling up yourself. Market is unpredictable since from
the beginning and we've seen several scenarios or situations on which news cant really affect the market price movement.Some of the time it could but most of the time
it wont really be having any effect.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: rby on November 29, 2022, 09:04:23 PM
fundamentals affects altcoins very easy way more than Bitcoin . Altcoins that has little trading volume can easily be manipulated by big institutional traders or investors.
they do so by influencing the media and news with some kind of stories.
Bitcoin has long passed that stage that little good news will make it to pump. The kind of news that you move bitcoin should be a globally-recognised news and not the one that is created by small group of people in a group chat in telegram or Twitter
Anyways people have started knowing about investment and not everyone sheepishly follow news and invest without making good calculation of the market.  people are becoming wiser everyday  and understanding how the market works.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Derrickiell on December 01, 2022, 03:44:59 AM
What sort of news you considered to be good? Sometimes people says that certain coin pumps but actually that are not so high to get some sort of extra income but is as high to reduce your loss. Other thing is that not each and every moment is in favor of participants, at some moment there will be hurdles you face, now  everyone has to be patience ant wait for the accurate time.
News or  events could be classified as good or bad basing up on the thing which are currently happening in the market but its true that it doesnt always give out significant impact
within the market and this is why when you are a trader who do fully rely with fundamentals then it would really be hard on handling up yourself. Market is unpredictable since from
the beginning and we've seen several scenarios or situations on which news cant really affect the market price movement.Some of the time it could but most of the time
it wont really be having any effect.
It should be realized that the market stage is still a bear market, and not every good news will make the market price rise. News alone is not enough to move the market, and cryptocurrency prices are controlled by many factors. Grasp the market opportunity of the bear market to accumulate more bitcoins, enjoy the bear market, and wait for the good news of the market recovery.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: rodskee on December 01, 2022, 05:18:50 AM
What sort of news you considered to be good? Sometimes people says that certain coin pumps but actually that are not so high to get some sort of extra income but is as high to reduce your loss. Other thing is that not each and every moment is in favor of participants, at some moment there will be hurdles you face, now  everyone has to be patience ant wait for the accurate time.
exactly , people tend to believe in news even spreading it but in the end? the  opposite things will happen or that said news does not bring any good effect to the market and our portfolio .

maybe let us not just believing in news instead let us learn from our own eys by checking the chart and the people responses towards currency we are keeping and investing .


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: len01 on December 01, 2022, 08:04:16 AM
What sort of news you considered to be good? Sometimes people says that certain coin pumps but actually that are not so high to get some sort of extra income but is as high to reduce your loss. Other thing is that not each and every moment is in favor of participants, at some moment there will be hurdles you face, now  everyone has to be patience ant wait for the accurate time.
exactly , people tend to believe in news even spreading it but in the end? the  opposite things will happen or that said news does not bring any good effect to the market and our portfolio .

maybe let us not just believing in news instead let us learn from our own eys by checking the chart and the people responses towards currency we are keeping and investing .
try to get out of the news. because the market will not be affected by any news, unless it is dominated by bitcoin prices increasing every bullish comes and all coins or altcoins will also increase in price.

So in conclusion, don't expect an increase in crypto prices from other people's tweets or tweets by artists when the bearishness is still going on. it's not going to change the market for the better.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: russelbrok on December 01, 2022, 08:23:53 AM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


what good news ? are you hearing the news bro ? FTX Crashed and another one in the Way

it will all fall eventually


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: tygeade on December 02, 2022, 11:58:10 AM
try to get out of the news. because the market will not be affected by any news, unless it is dominated by bitcoin prices increasing every bullish comes and all coins or altcoins will also increase in price.

So in conclusion, don't expect an increase in crypto prices from other people's tweets or tweets by artists when the bearishness is still going on. it's not going to change the market for the better.
Market is fully controlled by the news, any bankruptcy, any tweet, any regulation could make sure that the price changes right away. Hell we sell or buy based on if Elon tweets something, it's that simple to change the whole market. Does Elon himself change it? Of course not, it is the people who buy or sell based on what he says, so it is still the people, so the same people could make it go up right now, without news or tweets, and yet they don't and wait for that to happen.

So, it is clear that people look for whatever is going on before they end up with a big rush to crypto to do anything. News is the thing that decides on the price, and that will stay the way it is for a long time.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fredomago on December 02, 2022, 03:45:03 PM
try to get out of the news. because the market will not be affected by any news, unless it is dominated by bitcoin prices increasing every bullish comes and all coins or altcoins will also increase in price.

So in conclusion, don't expect an increase in crypto prices from other people's tweets or tweets by artists when the bearishness is still going on. it's not going to change the market for the better.
Market is fully controlled by the news, any bankruptcy, any tweet, any regulation could make sure that the price changes right away. Hell we sell or buy based on if Elon tweets something, it's that simple to change the whole market. Does Elon himself change it? Of course not, it is the people who buy or sell based on what he says, so it is still the people, so the same people could make it go up right now, without news or tweets, and yet they don't and wait for that to happen.

So, it is clear that people look for whatever is going on before they end up with a big rush to crypto to do anything. News is the thing that decides on the price, and that will stay the way it is for a long time.
News are the turning factors on when traders and investors will move their money, they are mostly relying with what news will come and how it will impact to the entire market, I think or I believe that it will continue being part of any industry, traders / investors are always hoping to find edges to make a valuable picks.

Though, there are also people who are part of those big bag holders / whales who make artificial market movements.

They are doing things that will reflect to the market and make other traders believes that the market will be going to that
particular directions.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Lida93 on December 02, 2022, 05:12:20 PM
The good news you are talking about has always been there and will always be there as long as the market is concerned. But we are advised to mind the type of news we accept in as not to be misguided and fall into making losses.
We are still in the bearish season and this is one that is going to stay for long, for many people  are just been speculative that the bullish season is closer because we are whining down to the end of the year and there is a believe by many people that as the new year inception might bring a significant market price that would lead us to a full bullish market times but Bitcoin market can not be assessed based on this thinking.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Lanatsa on December 02, 2022, 07:56:27 PM
The good news you are talking about has always been there and will always be there as long as the market is concerned. But we are advised to mind the type of news we accept in as not to be misguided and fall into making losses.
We are still in the bearish season and this is one that is going to stay for long, for many people  are just been speculative that the bullish season is closer because we are whining down to the end of the year and there is a believe by many people that as the new year inception might bring a significant market price that would lead us to a full bullish market times but Bitcoin market can not be assessed based on this thinking.
When we do deal up with this market then expect that it would really be having that random exchange in between good and bad news but since not this crypto market does always react out with fundamentals

or events externally then it is really that hard to make out some solid decision in regarding whether you do buy or not.News doesnt always significant which its neither it could give out some effect or

it wont really be bulge no matter what.This is why when you are really that depending on fundamentals then always make out some consideration and thinking up
back again whether you do take the shot or not.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: virasisog on December 02, 2022, 09:29:05 PM
The good news that you're hearing doesn't have a huge impact on the market and is being contradicted by bad occurrences that are happening around us right now. The global economic crisis is still existing as well as the war and fuel crisis. These things have been pulling down the market for a long time. In case the situation gets better, I'm sure that most coins will also recover especially Bitcoin. The prices still depend on the global economic situation most of the time.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fredomago on December 03, 2022, 08:10:14 PM
The good news that you're hearing doesn't have a huge impact on the market and is being contradicted by bad occurrences that are happening around us right now. The global economic crisis is still existing as well as the war and fuel crisis. These things have been pulling down the market for a long time. In case the situation gets better, I'm sure that most coins will also recover especially Bitcoin. The prices still depend on the global economic situation most of the time.


The current market still controlled by big investors, they are not doing any movement or they are still observing the behaviors of every crypto investors, even there are good news that flowing if there's no money that will be bring inside the market, the news are useless. More on the people who are willing to gamble and wait than on each good news that may bring new investors to put their money into this market.

I like that idea that the global economy really affects the investors' decision making, we might need more time for the new market bounce to come back.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: jossiel on December 03, 2022, 09:09:50 PM
The good news that you're hearing doesn't have a huge impact on the market and is being contradicted by bad occurrences that are happening around us right now. The global economic crisis is still existing as well as the war and fuel crisis. These things have been pulling down the market for a long time. In case the situation gets better, I'm sure that most coins will also recover especially Bitcoin. The prices still depend on the global economic situation most of the time.
Last year, fuel pumped prices and the war was there but the market did the opposite, we've been in a bull run.

I think it's just all about the season that's in and right now, even with or without those occurrences, the market will still be bearish because it has to happen.

And that's why the market will be the same as is no matter what the incidents and news are there because we're in the actual bear market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Wakate on December 04, 2022, 07:01:31 PM
The good news that you're hearing doesn't have a huge impact on the market and is being contradicted by bad occurrences that are happening around us right now. The global economic crisis is still existing as well as the war and fuel crisis. These things have been pulling down the market for a long time. In case the situation gets better, I'm sure that most coins will also recover especially Bitcoin. The prices still depend on the global economic situation most of the time.
The market is dip and we all hope that everything is going to be fine soon that is why I keep buying even though the market keep going down. I see this as an opportunity for us to look into the market and get one or two things that we can keep and hold for a long time so when everything settles, we can get the best out of the market.
Bitcoin price looks very down now and there is still time for it to go bull looking at the time we are in now. Things is going to get better just like when we are in the bull market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: ven7net on December 04, 2022, 07:25:45 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.


As for the good news about cryptocurrencies, unfortunately in reality there is none, but on the contrary, there is bad news. But as far as I understand, you mean the statements of some crypto analysts and bloggers that a new price increase is waiting for us, but these are just wishes that have nothing to do with reality. I think that you need to look out the window and see what is really happening on the street, and there we see a crisis. Yes, the world is experiencing another round of crisis, which means that there can be no question of any increase in prices for cryptocurrencies. As for the good news, they simply have nowhere to come from. The main thing now is to soberly assess the situation and not make hasty conclusions and decisions.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: n0ne on December 04, 2022, 11:33:06 PM
Good news getting around the market is out of the positive thoughts among the users. If people have panicked out of the FTX issue, the market could've turned even worse. Better understanding helps in easy recovery of the market. Same is happening at the moment. In the past in such situation things used to be in the opposite direction. When market experience some negative news automatically people fall for it and gets into traps of the Whales on the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: len01 on December 09, 2022, 04:39:46 AM
try to get out of the news. because the market will not be affected by any news, unless it is dominated by bitcoin prices increasing every bullish comes and all coins or altcoins will also increase in price.

So in conclusion, don't expect an increase in crypto prices from other people's tweets or tweets by artists when the bearishness is still going on. it's not going to change the market for the better.
Market is fully controlled by the news, any bankruptcy, any tweet, any regulation could make sure that the price changes right away. Hell we sell or buy based on if Elon tweets something, it's that simple to change the whole market. Does Elon himself change it? Of course not, it is the people who buy or sell based on what he says, so it is still the people, so the same people could make it go up right now, without news or tweets, and yet they don't and wait for that to happen.

So, it is clear that people look for whatever is going on before they end up with a big rush to crypto to do anything. News is the thing that decides on the price, and that will stay the way it is for a long time.
News are the turning factors on when traders and investors will move their money, they are mostly relying with what news will come and how it will impact to the entire market, I think or I believe that it will continue being part of any industry, traders / investors are always hoping to find edges to make a valuable picks.

Though, there are also people who are part of those big bag holders / whales who make artificial market movements.

They are doing things that will reflect to the market and make other traders believes that the market will be going to that
particular directions.
but these investors are definitely more likely to look at genuine news when looking to move their money. I mean big investors usually only rely on news from certain trusted sites to see the latest news before investing in the crypto they want to buy.
but what I know is that big investors usually don't rely on news but they prefer their own analysis and of course big crypto investors usually prefer investing in bitcoin.
because we know that bitcoin even though there is a lot of bad news about it all, when bullish it will still go up very high in price


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: gunhell16 on December 09, 2022, 07:36:05 AM
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Why don't coins go up?
If good news comes, the price should follow immediately.
When there is good news I go to Long positions waiting all day and nothing.

If a coin doesn't increase, it's because they don't have a new plan for their coin or token for their community here in crypto. Now if there is a crypto that is not increasing but there is a development change taking place and the number of their community investors and partnership in their coin is increasing one example of this is the Shiba Inu. There are always updates on the cryptocurrency that is also hyped even though its value has not increased so far.

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Also, the traders who post their ideas that are not on signals are not moving what is going on?
It is impossible to make any money in this Market
Someone needs to put money into it to be fruitful like this.

A sudden increase will only happen if there is a sudden pump in a coin or there is an announcement of a massive burning in the coin, if this happens there will surely be many people who will buy coins or tokens to hold it for the short or long term.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: RockBell on December 09, 2022, 01:35:02 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick scheme, and the majority of people who hear about it want to become millionaires overnight. Patience is the key when investing in bitcoin, so take your time to study, and accumulate as much as you can. Complaining won't solve anything. Invest and enjoy when the time is right. For my part, I don't follow trading groups to follow signals because they are all scams. Instead, I recommend doing your research and gaining experience.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Zilon on December 10, 2022, 09:32:38 AM
Good news is not enough to move the market. It is how buyers respond to this news that decides if price will pump. Negative news have more impact on the market than positive news. Never forget demand and supply when observing the market. If good news pops up and everyone rushes to buy, price will obviously go bullish, otherwise there will be no impact.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 18, 2022, 01:55:41 PM
The good news that you're hearing doesn't have a huge impact on the market and is being contradicted by bad occurrences that are happening around us right now. The global economic crisis is still existing as well as the war and fuel crisis. These things have been pulling down the market for a long time. In case the situation gets better, I'm sure that most coins will also recover especially Bitcoin. The prices still depend on the global economic situation most of the time.
If it is true, all the news in part makes it possible to confuse some type of analysis that a person may have, personally when I read Livermore's book, he said that when he analyzed the market on Wall Street, he locked himself up, and He didn't listen to the news, he didn't even see the newspaper, he just concentrated on his analysis of the market, after he already had his verdict on what he was going to do, it was that afterward he watched the news and saw everything, because he said that the news can interfere with the normal market analysis, and it can change your entire market's mind, but unless it's a big "fundamental" then that's a lesson applicable to this market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Cling18 on December 18, 2022, 03:32:41 PM
There are a lot of things that pull the market down and that includes the economic crisis that we are experiencing so no matter how many good events and news the market has, it will not be a reason enough for it to strike high. The market cycle will run continually based on the demand of investors, especially the whales. Positive news will influence it but there's no guarantee that it will have a big impact on the prices.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fatunad on December 20, 2022, 08:46:54 PM
There are a lot of things that pull the market down and that includes the economic crisis that we are experiencing so no matter how many good events and news the market has, it will not be a reason enough for it to strike high. The market cycle will run continually based on the demand of investors, especially the whales. Positive news will influence it but there's no guarantee that it will have a big impact on the prices.
Neither positive or negative news, it cant really be able to make assurance that it could really make out some effect on overall market price movement or condition which you should really make yourself
that prepared for whatever things that might happen ahead. Positive events or news couldnt always mean that it would really move the price up and vice versa.
This is what makes things even gets harder specially if you are a type of trader who do really make out some scalping or even trying to make out some short trades.
Its not something that you could really bare with.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 20, 2022, 10:35:04 PM
There are a lot of things that pull the market down and that includes the economic crisis that we are experiencing so no matter how many good events and news the market has, it will not be a reason enough for it to strike high. The market cycle will run continually based on the demand of investors, especially the whales. Positive news will influence it but there's no guarantee that it will have a big impact on the prices.
From my perspective the only function or activity that i can testify that it causes the crisis of bitcoin is a fake information concerning bitcoin price, and secondly country crisis, so if you observe very well, you will notice that since the existence of Russia and Ukraine, it's quite understandable that bitcoin price assume not to be experiencing a potential increment again due to the crisis.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: dunfida on December 20, 2022, 10:47:50 PM
There are a lot of things that pull the market down and that includes the economic crisis that we are experiencing so no matter how many good events and news the market has, it will not be a reason enough for it to strike high. The market cycle will run continually based on the demand of investors, especially the whales. Positive news will influence it but there's no guarantee that it will have a big impact on the prices.
Neither positive or negative news, it cant really be able to make assurance that it could really make out some effect on overall market price movement or condition which you should really make yourself
that prepared for whatever things that might happen ahead. Positive events or news couldnt always mean that it would really move the price up and vice versa.
This is what makes things even gets harder specially if you are a type of trader who do really make out some scalping or even trying to make out some short trades.
Its not something that you could really bare with.
People or the community should really get used to it, negative nor positive, it doesnt ensure or assure that it could really move the market basing up whether its negative or opposite.Most of the time it would really be just neutral or doesnt really make any movement at all on the time where these things do happen.

If you are a fundamental type of trader where you do heavily depends on market happenings then it is really something hard if you wont make use to go along with some technical indicators.
Its really that hard to make up some guesses and analysis with just basing with news alone.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 21, 2022, 09:31:37 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.
Even though we are in the final quarter of the year, all the news we have heard about cryptocurrency this year has been bad. I have no idea what kind of good news you have heard or whence it is from.

Even if there is good news right now, given the state of the market, you shouldn't expect the price of bitcoin to spike right away in this bearish market. Still, it will take time.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.
Finding the proper signal to anticipate the price of bitcoin in the cryptocurrency market is difficult.

My advice to you is never to put all your financial hopes on cryptocurrencies to prevent breaking your heart. Because no one can predict the future, it is advisable to only invest in things that you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Lanatsa on December 21, 2022, 09:44:54 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

You should not always make it in line on what are the current economic happenings into crypto space and just like the rest been saying that it doesnt really connect out most of the time.
We might be neither be seeing totally opposite movement despite of having negative and having that bearish movement even if the news is positive.
There's no way to determine on what the market movement look like or simply speaking with future market movements.
This is why risk taking thing would be always a serious step and movement for someone who do make out trades or investment here on crypto space.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 23, 2022, 04:12:46 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick scheme, and the majority of people who hear about it want to become millionaires overnight. Patience is the key when investing in bitcoin, so take your time to study, and accumulate as much as you can. Complaining won't solve anything. Invest and enjoy when the time is right. For my part, I don't follow trading groups to follow signals because they are all scams. Instead, I recommend doing your research and gaining experience.

Very good news can be generated, but that does not mean that they have to change the market or the direction of the market, as I have said, until you see a great fundamental, it is only possible to do so, but not so long, good news or bad news They will always be generated to see how the market reacts, this is something that can happen and that will obviously be tested, but it is to see the reactions of people in the market, this is something that will always happen, regardless However, I prefer to think that people are no longer very aware of the news as before, that a piece of news changed everything, things are very different now.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: letteredhub on December 23, 2022, 04:55:43 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

Don't be cut in the web of so much news making rounds with speculations about the price of bitcoin , you will even do well if you don't live by those so-called good news, learn to create your own strategy  as an investment plan and stop following every news you seeing online. Else your frustrations will be unending.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: rodskee on December 24, 2022, 05:16:59 AM
What sort of news you considered to be good? Sometimes people says that certain coin pumps but actually that are not so high to get some sort of extra income but is as high to reduce your loss. Other thing is that not each and every moment is in favor of participants, at some moment there will be hurdles you face, now  everyone has to be patience ant wait for the accurate time.
exactly , people tend to believe in news even spreading it but in the end? the  opposite things will happen or that said news does not bring any good effect to the market and our portfolio .

maybe let us not just believing in news instead let us learn from our own eys by checking the chart and the people responses towards currency we are keeping and investing .
try to get out of the news. because the market will not be affected by any news, unless it is dominated by bitcoin prices increasing every bullish comes and all coins or altcoins will also increase in price.
lol . investors are commonly affected by news same as the market flow so never underestimate the capacity of FUD and the negativities , though people now are aware yet it still affect the general .
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So in conclusion, don't expect an increase in crypto prices from other people's tweets or tweets by artists when the bearishness is still going on. it's not going to change the market for the better.
depend on what is the tweet and what is the effect , market will go High or Low while the news are positive or negative.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Getmon on December 24, 2022, 06:05:18 AM
It is clear that the FTX scandal was the catalyst for the market, I have no idea what good news you are referring to. And if there were any positive developments, was its impact any larger than the FTX shutdown, the second-largest cryptocurrency exchange in the world?

Sometimes, minor news positive or negative is not enough to move the market. Sometimes, those insiders have already moved, and when the news gets out, these whales will move in the opposite direction.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: vickyes on December 24, 2022, 07:22:49 AM
I haven't seen any good news. Now the entire market has no signs of recovery. Institutions are dying of losses, and retail investors are dying of losses. How can there be any news of rising?


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: worle1bm on December 24, 2022, 07:26:16 AM
It is clear that the FTX scandal was the catalyst for the market, I have no idea what good news you are referring to. And if there were any positive developments, was its impact any larger than the FTX shutdown, the second-largest cryptocurrency exchange in the world?

Sometimes, minor news positive or negative is not enough to move the market. Sometimes, those insiders have already moved, and when the news gets out, these whales will move in the opposite direction.
Before FTX also the market was not in good condition but it pushed the downfall of market again and we see all those red lines on the charts again which still have not recovered.The last year Christmas was happy time and we all were in pump situations but now this year has turned to be opposite one but long term holders will see profits when this all FTX mess up will be cleaned.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Insanity on December 24, 2022, 09:16:17 AM
I haven't seen any good news. Now the entire market has no signs of recovery. Institutions are dying of losses, and retail investors are dying of losses. How can there be any news of rising?
I see everyone is very worried now the situation of cryptomarket is in a very bad situation. All the traders are not making any profit from investing in this currency. The current situation of the market doesn't seem like the market is going to recover in a few days.  It will be ok. This market needs a lot of time to fix.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: albon on December 24, 2022, 03:42:51 PM
I haven't seen any good news. Now the entire market has no signs of recovery. Institutions are dying of losses, and retail investors are dying of losses. How can there be any news of rising?
Yes, there is no good news yet that plays a role in the market’s recovery. The year 2022 was the year of collapses and bankruptcies. Many prominent companies went bankrupt and cryptocurrency prices collapsed frighteningly. Investors suffered losses in Luna and UST currency then came to the collapse of FTX and FTT currency, And to this day, the Federal Reserve is still raising interest rates to make it difficult for the crypto market to recover again during this year. I see that the crypto industry has a time that may last for years until it recovers again, but we should not be pessimistic and panicky, and we must be patient for this day.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Franctoshi on December 24, 2022, 04:25:53 PM
The market right now is full of uncertainties and looking at how choppy the chart is, it seems like the institutional players (Investors) are staying on the side waiting for the regulation of cryptos by the SEC , which means they neither buying or selling.

Talking about the News events ,we have been seeing a lot of bad news come out over the past few months now , So the kind of news I guess could move the market is Fed starting of (QE), SEC crypto regulation and Grayscale Bitcoin ETF approval.
 I do believe all these News will have so much impact in moving the price of Bitcoin and cryptos upwards.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 24, 2022, 06:25:26 PM
People are still having some doubts. It's the bear market time. Even you tell someone today that BTC will pump 10x tomorrow, no one will believe you. This is just not the right time my man. You need to have patience. Next bull run will give BTC it's new All Time High that's for sure. This is the reason everyone is saying that HODL. BTC is for long term investment. But now the market is all messed up.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Quidat on December 26, 2022, 11:56:41 PM
People are still having some doubts. It's the bear market time. Even you tell someone today that BTC will pump 10x tomorrow, no one will believe you. This is just not the right time my man. You need to have patience. Next bull run will give BTC it's new All Time High that's for sure. This is the reason everyone is saying that HODL. BTC is for long term investment. But now the market is all messed up.
Doubts and uncertainty or lose up confidence on putting up investments on this bear period which its not something new nor a surprising thing.We are all on this
state where everyone is really just trying out to observe on what are the next big possible movements. Now, it is really that hard to point out on whats the bottom
price.We might able to see some good news but we know that not all fundamentals and events could really make out some effect in the market.
There are indeed moments which there were no events but the market had moved up or down big time which would lead out lots of question marks into our heads.  :D


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Sayeds56 on December 27, 2022, 05:19:49 AM
I haven't seen any good news. Now the entire market has no signs of recovery. Institutions are dying of losses, and retail investors are dying of losses. How can there be any news of rising?
Yes, there is no good news yet that plays a role in the market’s recovery. The year 2022 was the year of collapses and bankruptcies. Many prominent companies went bankrupt and cryptocurrency prices collapsed frighteningly. Investors suffered losses in Luna and UST currency then came to the collapse of FTX and FTT currency, And to this day, the Federal Reserve is still raising interest rates to make it difficult for the crypto market to recover again during this year. I see that the crypto industry has a time that may last for years until it recovers again, but we should not be pessimistic and panicky, and we must be patient for this day.

Market is in holidays mood now, as evident from low trading volumes. Hopefully,investors will make  buying after the new year celebrations. It is commom practice that  investors readjust their portfolios in the beginning of year by selling under performing asset and buy new asset to align their portfolio in line with their financial goals, which triggers trading activity in the market. Let's watch and wait, what new year brings for us.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fullcoinese on December 27, 2022, 06:28:35 AM
People are still having some doubts. It's the bear market time. Even you tell someone today that BTC will pump 10x tomorrow, no one will believe you. This is just not the right time my man. You need to have patience. Next bull run will give BTC it's new All Time High that's for sure. This is the reason everyone is saying that HODL. BTC is for long term investment. But now the market is all messed up.
this is simply not the time to pump. but this is the time for anyone who loves Bitcoin to stock up on their portfolio. we don't think Bitcoin for short with short pumps. but we'll expect a long bull season in the future. Bitcoin has shown us some pump power over the years. all does not happen continuously and makes the market always happy. we have to come up with a good plan.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Fondarchand on December 27, 2022, 03:16:58 PM
Good news in this harsh circumstances is impossible, i think that these days putting money and selling coin is not a good idea just wait for the coming year because as harsh was the previous condition so it indicates that there will greater achievement of benefits in coming year. In my opinion i just think that investment and trading presently will not sure your success so do not make an idea of putting money under this unfavorable time.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Xinarae* on December 27, 2022, 05:04:12 PM
Currently the crypto market situation is very bad but it won't be for long to get up and down is to be a victim of such a situation at the moment it would be best to invest in bitcoin and hold on. Also you can find out whether the price will decrease or increase by doing technical analysis of the current situation. But everything is a possibility no one can say for sure if you think long term, you should research the potential use of any cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: kamvreto on December 27, 2022, 05:35:11 PM
The market is stagnant and there is little movement. New Year and Christmas are moments for family holidays, so investors don't move from their places and are more likely to take profits at the end of the year. 2023 is expected to be a year for a recovery in the bitcoin price. But if the bear market strengthens again we will still see another low. The good thing to do now is to hold back what we are buying at this time and make purchases in stages or installments (DCA) to add to the assets we have. Long term will provide better returns. Hopefully in 2023 the bitcoin price can break through $ 20,000 and continue


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: GigaBit on December 27, 2022, 06:01:02 PM
Why coins not going up ?
If good news coming then price should follow instantly.
When there is good news i go Long position been waiting all day long and nothing.

Also the traders who post their ideas non of the signals don't move whats going on ?
It's imposdible to make any money in this Market
Somebody need to put money in it's fruturating like this.

The market is not rising because confidence is not created. Cryptomarkets are constantly influenced by negative or positive news. Here fake news flows more along with some real news. As a result, it is more difficult to understand what is right and what is wrong? Economic recession has now gripped the entire world. No new investment is appeared anywhere. People at every level are now going through scarcity. At this time if someone says Bitcoin will be up then it will never be effective. Good news won't be needed when Bitcoin's time comes. The market will go well for you. The more awareness increases, the more investors will gain confidence in the market.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: doomloop on December 28, 2022, 07:41:55 PM
People are still having some doubts. It's the bear market time. Even you tell someone today that BTC will pump 10x tomorrow, no one will believe you. This is just not the right time my man. You need to have patience. Next bull run will give BTC it's new All Time High that's for sure. This is the reason everyone is saying that HODL. BTC is for long term investment. But now the market is all messed up.
this is simply not the time to pump. but this is the time for anyone who loves Bitcoin to stock up on their portfolio. we don't think Bitcoin for short with short pumps. but we'll expect a long bull season in the future. Bitcoin has shown us some pump power over the years. all does not happen continuously and makes the market always happy. we have to come up with a good plan.
But, we also don't know the duration of each bear market. There is also a chance that the price will rose hard suddenly and then the media will gave a reason about it. This is why we shouldn't waste time but once we saw an open opportunity like this where prices are still cheap.

We shouldn't think anymore but just buy them immediately. Shorting BTC is not wrong but there are people who prefer it. Keep in mind that not all have the patience to wait for a very long time only to max out the profits that they will be getting. I hope what you said is true that there will be a long bull season. I haven't seen one yet but we only need to make sure that we already stocked up a good number of coins so that we can enjoy that season.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 28, 2022, 08:30:15 PM
People are still having some doubts. It's the bear market time. Even you tell someone today that BTC will pump 10x tomorrow, no one will believe you. This is just not the right time my man. You need to have patience. Next bull run will give BTC it's new All Time High that's for sure. This is the reason everyone is saying that HODL. BTC is for long term investment. But now the market is all messed up.
this is simply not the time to pump. but this is the time for anyone who loves Bitcoin to stock up on their portfolio. we don't think Bitcoin for short with short pumps. but we'll expect a long bull season in the future. Bitcoin has shown us some pump power over the years. all does not happen continuously and makes the market always happy. we have to come up with a good plan.
But, we also don't know the duration of each bear market. There is also a chance that the price will rose hard suddenly and then the media will gave a reason about it. This is why we shouldn't waste time but once we saw an open opportunity like this where prices are still cheap.

We shouldn't think anymore but just buy them immediately. Shorting BTC is not wrong but there are people who prefer it. Keep in mind that not all have the patience to wait for a very long time only to max out the profits that they will be getting. I hope what you said is true that there will be a long bull season. I haven't seen one yet but we only need to make sure that we already stocked up a good number of coins so that we can enjoy that season.
The best time to make out an investment is on the time where everyone is really on doubt and extreme fear but making up decisions like this on which it is really hard to consider on buying on these times which you cant
really be able to determine if this is already the bottom or not.We know that each of us do really wants to get in on the lowest price as possible which means that even it is really on the deepest negative,
we cant really be still that confident on making a buy but rather seeking for that bottom which it is really that a common behavior on which it means that buying decision
would really be entirely be depending on someones preference and risk taking.News and fundamentals couldnt always affect market condition and this what makes even more harder to make out decisions.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: lalabotax on December 28, 2022, 09:39:34 PM
Before FTX also the market was not in good condition but it pushed the downfall of market again and we see all those red lines on the charts again which still have not recovered.The last year Christmas was happy time and we all were in pump situations but now this year has turned to be opposite one but long term holders will see profits when this all FTX mess up will be cleaned.
Yes, of course, both FTX and Luna have added to the long series of market crashes. However this is not totally because of them. As we know that currently it is still in the bearish market phase. So if there is FUD coming, it will be easier and faster to make the market crash again. Meanwhile, if there is positive news that supports Crypto, it has not been able to awaken the market, especially because usually bullish will occur after Bitcoin halving. Maa all we have to do is be patient. It could be that the market will get worse again and Bitcoin will fall even deeper. We must be prepared for all possibilities.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 07, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Well the truth is that in these times I have not seen very good news or that they speak well of Bitcoin, but nevertheless I would be thinking that good times could be coming, I cannot deny that I expected the market to give a good reputation for this Christmas, but it has not been so, perhaps the winds that point to a next bullish rally are not close now, however, we recommend all those who have BTC who can have it and hopefully because that is the only strategy that will save them from all inflation and from everything that implies a global recession, it is the only thing that can save us all.


Title: Re: So many good news but Market and coins don't go up
Post by: Hamphser on January 07, 2023, 06:39:34 PM
Well the truth is that in these times I have not seen very good news or that they speak well of Bitcoin, but nevertheless I would be thinking that good times could be coming, I cannot deny that I expected the market to give a good reputation for this Christmas, but it has not been so, perhaps the winds that point to a next bullish rally are not close now, however, we recommend all those who have BTC who can have it and hopefully because that is the only strategy that will save them from all inflation and from everything that implies a global recession, it is the only thing that can save us all.

A Market couldn't really be just like this forever, we might seen have the worst but it doesnt mean that we would be staying up like this all the way on upcoming years to come.I do agree on what others been saying

that if there's a bearish run then there would be an opposite and there's no way that we could really be able to point it out on when it would happen and this is why people do end up on being that too impulsive
and really that emotional.Human beings are naturally not that impatient i would say on which they do really end up on making out conclusions without really having those considerations basing on what happened in the past.We can even do tell that neither it would happen again or not and this is what makes even more harder to make up some guess or speculations.